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Assassination Chatter and the End of Legitimacy
huffingtonpost.com — We have seen a return this year to the politics of delegitimation by the extreme Republican right. Yet what has been most surprising is the complicity, and then the open participation in that process by the Clinton campaign.
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- culebrito, on 05/27/2008, -4/+48Mr. Bromwich, calmly and clearly places the virulent and violent tactics of this long campaign in context. How chatter can legitimize nightmares, and how robbing our leaders of their legitimacy invites terror.
It's a prescient, and sadly necessary text due to the loathesome behavior of the Hillary Clinton Campaign.- WELLDOITLIVE, on 05/27/2008, -2/+1When I read virulent and violent I thought this was gonna be the speech by V, lol.
- tumatakuru, on 05/27/2008, -4/+54FTA: "Hillary Clinton's recent careless-careful mention of the assassination of Robert Kennedy......."
This is the thing exactly; At the same time as her mention seemed careless, we knew from the context of Hillary saying it, that it must have been crafted most carefully. With Clinton in a desperate place politically, the mention of assassination could only have been pre-planned to achieve a specific purpose. This purpose may or may not have been quite as dire as actually encouraging assasination; the article aptly but more charitably than Clinton deserves describes it as aimed at 'delegitimisation'.
Racists speak in a kind of sniggering code to one another when they are in polite company, and this is what the recent remarks of Clinton, Huckabee and Trotta in regard to political shootings all have in common; the nod-and-a-wink undertone aimed towards those in the know, implying "someone's an upstart and must be put back in his place"
It's a very thoughtful article. Please read.- cmorriss, on 05/27/2008, -10/+10Look, I'm not a Clinton supporter. Her comment was in poor taste, but I think this is being blown way out of proportion. She obviously was using the assassination of RFK as a way for people to remember that the nomination process was not wrapped up at that time by June. That's all she meant. It is crystal clear that this is all she meant because she would have to be clinically insane to hint/imply that Obama might get assassinated and that's the real reason she is in the race.
If you honestly look at the comment it's pretty obvious. However, it doesn't grab headlines and readers eyes like claiming she's keeping her fingers crossed that Obama will get some snipers bullet.
To be fair, I think Obama getting raked over the coals over something his pastor said was B.S. as well. I just wish we could have a media that actually helped voters make informed decisions. Oh well.- noahhoward, on 05/27/2008, -2/+7"It is crystal clear "
If it were any other person or if Mrs. Clinton had behaved differently over these past few months, it would be. Hillary brought this doubt on herself. - znicket, on 05/27/2008, -2/+8I have to side with Keith Olberman on this one. In my mind she deliberately raised the spectre of assassination to frighten people. It was a Darren Brown-ish mentalism at work. Get people to start thinking about assassinations and all of the sudden Obama doesn't seem like such a good presidential candidate after all.
- boot20, on 05/28/2008, -0/+1The second someone says "I'm not a Clinton supporter," it's like hearing "I'm not a racist, but," or "I've got a lot of gay friends, but."
It it were so clear, there wouldn't be such a controversy. The problem is that Hillary is too smart to make this remark without realizing the backlash. She calculated the risk and thought she could get away with it. However, now that she's been called out, she's just digging a deeper hole.
- noahhoward, on 05/27/2008, -2/+7"It is crystal clear "
- TheUngod, on 05/27/2008, -3/+5It's funny you said "racists" and "sniggering" in the same sentence...
- cmorriss, on 05/27/2008, -10/+10Look, I'm not a Clinton supporter. Her comment was in poor taste, but I think this is being blown way out of proportion. She obviously was using the assassination of RFK as a way for people to remember that the nomination process was not wrapped up at that time by June. That's all she meant. It is crystal clear that this is all she meant because she would have to be clinically insane to hint/imply that Obama might get assassinated and that's the real reason she is in the race.
- FrankHope, on 05/27/2008, -12/+2This article hints at, but does not openly declare, the possibility that there are some talking points being promoted by Obama's opponents that include mentioning assassination.
For a more hard hitting article on this same subject see:
http://digg.com/political_opinion/AIPAC_targets_Ob ...
The very title, "Assassination Chatter and the End of Legitimacy" suggests that this will be the topic of the article, but then the writer continually skirts the issue. The author says, "We have seen a return this year to the politics of delegitimation by the extreme Republican right. Yet what has been most surprising is the complicity, and then the open participation in that process by the Clinton campaign." But then goes on to discuss the way the issue of race has been used as a weapon against Obama.
He returns to the theme with "Hillary Clinton's recent careless-careful mention of the assassination of Robert Kennedy...raised the tactics of delegitimation to a pitch as weird as anything the Clintons can have seen in the years 1997-98. The most disturbing element of her remark was this: that it chose to treat assassination as just one more political possibility, one of the things that happen in our politics, like hecklers, lobbyists, and forced resignations." But then returns to the theme of race.
The most alarming passage in the article is near the end regarding John F. Kennedy. "An unmeasurable but well-recorded condition for the assassination of John F. Kennedy was the campaign of delegitimation that preceded that terrible event...". But then the article draws to conclusion, without ever connecting the ideas that form the basis of the article. - Rabbittt, on 05/27/2008, -14/+28I disagree 100% with the premise of the article.. I believe our political system has already been an illegitimate joke for at least the past 150 years, probably longer..
- noahhoward, on 05/27/2008, -4/+6You must be 12 or something. 150 years? Our government, while not perfect, has served as a model for many, and withstood challenges by many more. You haven't a bloody clue what you're talking about.
- buckrogers1965, on 05/27/2008, -2/+2It jumped the shark at the time of the Confederate war. The Southern states should have been allowed to secede. Instead the federal government became more powerful than half of the states of America at the time.
- gatt5u, on 05/27/2008, -19/+4Hillary Clinton's bedtime prayer:
"Now I lay me down to sleep;
I pray the Lord my soul to keep.
Keep me safe through all the drama -
Just let someone shoot Obama."
Paul 08.... errrrr I mean Obama 08- Tenlow, on 05/27/2008, -0/+3You're being buried for implying Hillary prays before bed. We all know she's a baby eating satan worshiper. Who doesn't pray.
- Felixthecat71, on 05/27/2008, -14/+5As shocking as it is to so many of the Media Elite (the BS artists) - I too was stunned. Stunned at the fact that this story received so, so, so much play - free of charge to the opposing candidates: Democratic and Republican alike. The thought was and is on everyone's mind. From the beginning, during the exploratory committee formed by the Obama Team, many African Americans felt there was an extreme danger in the possibility of an attempt to assassinate the first (or should I say) the first real true possible African American candidate for President. As we all know, it was put away on a shelf by the media as though it could never happen, yet under all the mumbling, everyone knows it ain't over until it's over - due to the possibility of anything taking place. So when it was mentioned by Hillary Clinton in her reference to waiting until June to make the final decisions of her Presidential Run - Boom! The Media was out like a band of rabid wolves. The arrogance again displayed like a set of cobra teeth. The "how dare she" out in full force; then again those same individual "media outlets' have spit poison from day one. FACT: God Forbid any type of attempt is made against any candidate, a heighten sense of urgency is in place, hence, the possibility of the failure of any attempt is great. Dare the individual to pull a stunt now will surly end in failure. But all that is disregarded by, who else, the Media - who fails us again, buy placing the truth back on the shelf. Funny, the same thing was done for the Iraq war; then again it took the media days to report on Katrina too. But for the latter, I sill hold ALL government official responsible for that. More mess, less truth. Change? Na, not in America, not anytime soon.
- shauncorleone, on 05/27/2008, -29/+25Can we add a burying reason "Huffington/DailyKos"?
- rationalbeats, on 05/27/2008, -11/+7Burying your head in the ground is what you are already doing so whats the difference?
- heartcoldfusion, on 05/27/2008, -3/+5Give me a break. If anything you're the one burying your head by blinding following two sensationalist 'news sources' and not acknowledging their faults.
- Mothrog, on 05/28/2008, -0/+1Yeah, you're right. If you disregard sensationalist tripe, you're burying your head in the sand. I guess I better go to the store and catch up on the Weekly World News. God knows the ***** Bat Boy has been up to lately.
- shauncorleone, on 05/28/2008, -0/+2Bat Boy takes Yoga at the YMCA with my young niece. I just hope he doesn't try anything.
- Neo829, on 05/27/2008, -0/+10That reason exists. It's labeled "OK, this is lame."
- smash20, on 05/27/2008, -0/+4Huh... I always buried Huff/DailyKos as "Inaccurate" or "Spam", but that works too.
- Monk22, on 05/27/2008, -0/+3can we decide which one to use so we can get rid of it faster?
- smash20, on 05/27/2008, -0/+4Huh... I always buried Huff/DailyKos as "Inaccurate" or "Spam", but that works too.
- rationalbeats, on 05/27/2008, -11/+7Burying your head in the ground is what you are already doing so whats the difference?
- Willy99, on 05/27/2008, -14/+5no digg... yawn. blah blah... blah blah blah.
- laserblazer, on 05/27/2008, -11/+5Hillary should run in Israel where her loyalties lie.
- fleischner, on 05/27/2008, -6/+1Nice. Really nice.
- winnestow, on 05/27/2008, -16/+12yes i haven't seen a huffingtonpost.com submission for 15 minutes
- h3smith, on 05/27/2008, -13/+5More free press for Obama!
- merlin5, on 05/27/2008, -25/+9Unbelievable. The liberal Kool-Aid drinkers really need to stop believing everything the comedians and actors tell them.
Republicans are not nearly together enough to do all the things liberals accuse them of. And Democrats are not the good guys. Get real.- kingmanic, on 05/27/2008, -6/+8As a friendly neighbor from the north, from the outside the democrats look like the lesser of two evils.
- Alexandru25, on 05/27/2008, -10/+7Of course you guys like them because they are America bashing self haters. You guys hate America out of jealousy, especially the Europeans who feel that the U.S. is the upstart to hundreds of years of European domination both culturally and economically. Europeans don't like the U.S. because in the last 70 years they usurped European colonial, economic, and cultural world domination. Yet of course they still benefit from American military protection and intervention. On one hand they bitch about the U.S. but than start crying if NATO or the U.S. wants to close bases in their countries.
/European Speaking- kingmanic, on 05/27/2008, -2/+4European right.. 6 or 7 generations out? Europeans are as prone to epic failures of comprehension like anyone but somehow your posts doesn't seem very European. They seem extremely xenophobic and jingoistic. Actually very 'Ugly American'. Not American, but 'ugly american'.
- Alexandru25, on 05/28/2008, -1/+1I am 100% European. Born in Bucharest and lived in Moscow before I moved to the United States. I love that the liberals for some reason have a masturbatory fantasy about the liberalism of Europeans.
- kingmanic, on 05/28/2008, -0/+1Eastern European. I see...
- Alexandru25, on 05/27/2008, -10/+7Of course you guys like them because they are America bashing self haters. You guys hate America out of jealousy, especially the Europeans who feel that the U.S. is the upstart to hundreds of years of European domination both culturally and economically. Europeans don't like the U.S. because in the last 70 years they usurped European colonial, economic, and cultural world domination. Yet of course they still benefit from American military protection and intervention. On one hand they bitch about the U.S. but than start crying if NATO or the U.S. wants to close bases in their countries.
- rationalbeats, on 05/27/2008, -9/+3Your comment is very offensive.
What if I called you a redneck NASCAR watching, Coors Light swilling, sister-*****, Jesus idealizing, selfish Republican nut?
Would that make you angry?- Monk22, on 05/27/2008, -1/+2we have better things to do than worry about what some dumbass liberal is mouthing off about today.
- rationalbeats, on 05/27/2008, -1/+1Thanks loser.
- makeitloud, on 05/27/2008, -3/+1You mean like trying to convince people the Republicans still know what they're doing?
- Monk22, on 05/27/2008, -0/+2i don't think the dems are much better. your a fool to think any of them are on your side. i fall more to the republican side yet not a single one of those things apply to me. i hate nascar (who wants to watch rednecks drive in a circle?) i hate beer, pot smoker personally, i don't have a sister, and im an atheist. but I'm also not such a douche to characterize an entire group of people by their activities. what if they like those things, whats it to you? do they not have the freedom to like things you don't? this moral ***** is whats pulling this country apart. I'm a republican in the sense that i want lower taxes smaller gov and states rights. that's all. does that make me a redneck? i would hope not.
- makeitloud, on 05/28/2008, -0/+2"i don't think the dems are much better... this moral ***** is whats pulling this country apart."
Hey, I completely agree with that. Except when you use phrases like "dumbass liberals," I'd love it if more Republican-leaning folks would think like you do. But it seems like the Republican Party is run by insane people. (The Democratic Party is run by spineless whiners.) - Monk22, on 05/28/2008, -0/+1"What if I called you a redneck NASCAR watching, Coors Light swilling, sister-*****, Jesus idealizing, selfish Republican nut?
Would that make you angry?"
your not going to get a nice response out of something like that. give me something to work with however and it changes drastically. ;)
- Monk22, on 05/27/2008, -1/+2we have better things to do than worry about what some dumbass liberal is mouthing off about today.
- makeitloud, on 05/27/2008, -4/+3You forgot to include university professors, trial lawyers, communists, the French, and Osama bin Laden. I mean, as long as you're going to make sweeping generalizations, you might as well work off the standard list.
Hey, speaking of actors, the governor of California looks a lot like that guy from Commando, and I seem to recall some B-movie actor who was president for most of the 80's who couldn't remember his own name but somehow manages to still be every conservative's hero.- stuffblock, on 05/27/2008, -1/+1was funny until the part about remembering his name.
- buckrogers1965, on 05/27/2008, -0/+2I don't recall that part.
- stuffblock, on 05/27/2008, -1/+1was funny until the part about remembering his name.
- sweetholymosiah, on 05/28/2008, -0/+1Did you even read the entire thing?? you read 3 paragraphs in, i would guess..
- magus_melchior, on 05/28/2008, -0/+2"Republicans are not nearly together enough to do all the things liberals accuse them of."
No, but prominent members control media outlets that are viewed or listened to by Republican voters. Kinda easy to push propaganda and misinformation that way, don't you think?
"Democrats are not the good guys."
Compare them with GW Bush. Compare them to Karl Rove, John Yoo, David Addington, and Dick Cheney. Yes, there are fools, sociopaths, and people who would rather abuse the system than serve the people in the Democratic party-- just look at the Clintons. But don't imply that Republicans are clean for this reason.
- kingmanic, on 05/27/2008, -6/+8As a friendly neighbor from the north, from the outside the democrats look like the lesser of two evils.
- ThatGurl, on 05/27/2008, -9/+10I think that the comments here are strange. HRC is waiting for anything to happen, even an assassination?..that is how most Americans read what she said....
Barack Obama as always remains classy and gives her the benefit of the doubt.- Superfreak77, on 05/27/2008, -3/+2Classy was ok some time ago. Not now, he needs to ensure he wins. If he doesn't it will only prove he wasn't the man for the job.
- PabloMac, on 05/27/2008, -4/+11The delegitimation by the extreme Republican right is no more so than the delegitimation by the extreme Democratic left.
- empirefalling, on 05/27/2008, -8/+12The irresponsible and the quite frankly criminal action of suggesting that Barack Obama could be assassinated is appalling. Apparently the two the political factions against the election of Obama as Leader of the US people have begun to use racist , disreputable statements. It must be noted that Barack Obama has not brought into play racist remarks or used criminal actions against his enemies.
One must question austerely the actions of those opposed to Obama as Leader. What criminal intent do those that oppose Barack Obama have? What could be done to prevent those that dissent against the policies and leadership of Obama from continuing their barrage of hate? Barack Obama is the only qualified Leader. His procedures to help the American People free themselves can only be compared to other Freedom Fighters of America . John F. Kennedy, Martin Luther King, Abraham Lincoln.- Neo829, on 05/27/2008, -1/+6Just because something may be in poor taste in your estimation does not make it criminal. I don't mean to offense your socialist sensibilities with this comment, but there needn't be a law about everything.
- buckrogers1965, on 05/27/2008, -0/+1They shall be known by their acts.
- ooby, on 05/27/2008, -1/+3If elected, Barak Obama will have a 9.5% chance of being assassinated. This is true for the next elected president, whoever he may be.
- jbramley, on 05/27/2008, -1/+2Saying that Bobby Kennedy was assassinated is a criminal action?
- Neo829, on 05/27/2008, -1/+6Just because something may be in poor taste in your estimation does not make it criminal. I don't mean to offense your socialist sensibilities with this comment, but there needn't be a law about everything.
- pinchduck, on 05/27/2008, -2/+8Only surprising to the people who have been Clinton apologists for the past decade. What seemed like fair and reasonable tactics against Republicans 10 years ago are now seen for what they are: the rankest mud slinging and smearing possible. Now that Obama is the target they realize that these are just crappy tactics. They are in the same boat with the Bush apologists who insisted that he wasn't a moron 5 years ago.
- plhearn, on 05/27/2008, -17/+3Obama will definitely get assassinated. He deserves to die. I hope he chokes on a watermelon and drops dead.
- Neo829, on 05/27/2008, -4/+7As concerned as I am for the future of a nation that aspires to the kind of "change" Obama might bring, your racist comment is completely uncalled for.
Sane conservatives don't wish for Kennedy's death due to a brain tumor, but would rather see him living a happy and healthy life, yet defeated in the marketplace of ideas.
Similarly, Obama's opponents should no more wish for ill to befall Obama, who seems to be a genuinely well intentioned, if misguided, man.
If you can't see the inherent truth in that statement, because you are blinded by your racism, then at least concede that it is far better for this country for those with misguided ideas about government to be defeated soundly, than to die as some kind of martyr figure in an assassination.- plhearn, on 05/27/2008, -3/+2As concerned as I am to hide the fact that I'm trolling to see what kind of "flaming" it will merit, your calm and logical response is completely uncalled for.
- Neo829, on 05/27/2008, -2/+4My apologies for the bout of sanity. I forgot what website I was on. :p
- plhearn, on 05/27/2008, -3/+2As concerned as I am to hide the fact that I'm trolling to see what kind of "flaming" it will merit, your calm and logical response is completely uncalled for.
- Superfreak77, on 05/27/2008, -3/+2As any 14 year old you're entitled to your opinion.
And that is.. what? your hope is based on what?
to avoid what? to get better what?- plhearn, on 05/27/2008, -2/+2My hope is based on Obama choking on a chicken bone to avoid him replacing the statue of liberty with Aunt Jemima and get better healthcare.
- buckrogers1965, on 05/27/2008, -0/+1Buried, blocked, reported.
- Neo829, on 05/27/2008, -4/+7As concerned as I am for the future of a nation that aspires to the kind of "change" Obama might bring, your racist comment is completely uncalled for.
- Barbarino, on 05/27/2008, -12/+7Is there a way I can filter out these Huff Po articles? I like Obama, may vote for him, but these articles are getting out of hand..
- jonbruc, on 05/27/2008, -7/+5This is a BS nonstory. In her comments, she's suggesting that she should stay in the race until June because other presidential nominations have been settled in June, when one candidate has won California. She ignores the fact that this year California moved its primary and it has already occurred.
By the way, I'm voting for Obama. - shiftclick, on 05/27/2008, -17/+12More huffington garbage. I'm not voting for Obama JUST because of the huffingtonpost. Suck on that Ariana.
- pinchduck, on 05/27/2008, -8/+8"Will no one rid me of this troublesome man?"
- deanjarvis, on 05/27/2008, -5/+3Nope... yer stuck with him for at least four more years... hopefully 8.
- jbramley, on 05/27/2008, -0/+2Digg for the awesome literary reference. My favorite play ever, and an amazing movie adaptation to boot.
- CharlesDance, on 05/27/2008, -13/+7All this fuss and you're just gonna end up voting for McCain. You Americans crack me up!
Digg me down.- deanjarvis, on 05/27/2008, -3/+2Funny... trolls always wanna be dugg down. Masochists, I suspect.
- jakdracula, on 05/27/2008, -15/+10Only an idiot would read the 'huffington post'.
- Superfreak77, on 05/27/2008, -3/+3I kept searching for reports of this on mainstream media over the weekend. Nothing.
- Barbarino, on 05/27/2008, -9/+9Wow, the digg down huff police are killing any anti Huff Po comment..
Digg, you let the Ron Paul ***** get out of hand and you are doing the same now. You need to cap front page stories from certain domains. - FatherVic, on 05/27/2008, -8/+8I love how even a story about a Democrat saying something stupid can be turned into an anti-republican article.
- ralph12c41, on 05/27/2008, -9/+10Buried Huffington Post is not a legit source for anything credible or pro American.
- Kashabear, on 05/27/2008, -7/+7If you do not like Huffington Post- why are you here?
- thanakar, on 05/27/2008, -3/+3Um..this isn't the Huffington Post..this is Digg...and this is nothing but Huffingtonspam
- slib, on 05/27/2008, -7/+6Am I the only one getting sick of this Swift Boat nonsense? Or the Huffington Post? I'm not saying that I'd vote for Hillary, but off-the-cuff remarks made by candidates (or, in Mr Obama's case, associates) should take a second seat to their political agenda (while it's true that a candidate's agenda can be revealed by such comments, these quotes are taken out of context by dubious publications* 100% of the time). The reason I'd never vote for Mrs Clinton stems from her personal beliefs (a combination of pandering to the "family" and quasi-socialism). The same can be said of Mr McCain (100 years in Iraq? Bombing Iran? No thanks).
*The Huffington Post - 123alexanderp, on 05/27/2008, -3/+1If you read the entire transcript of the interview, you will find that this is just one of many examples of when a nominee was decided into June. She cites several examples. The assassination is just one.
http://camelsnose.wordpress.com/2008/05/25/assassi ...- LastVisibleDog, on 05/27/2008, -0/+1Yeah - another example was her husband - only problem is she was lying
- LastVisibleDog, on 05/27/2008, -0/+1Yeah - another example was her husband - only problem is she was lying
- thanakar, on 05/27/2008, -3/+4Wow, a Huffington post article that's negative toward's Clinton....
- JointVenture, on 05/27/2008, -3/+7Funny thing is it was Michele Obama who first brought up Obama being killed because he is black.
Followed by CBS when they interviewed Ted Kennedy and asked if he was fearful of Obama being assassinated.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0rju8nswws
Be honest with yourselves if that is possible when someone is in love with a candidate.
Im glad Im not emotionally invested in any of these folks, you're all lost in love.- Sogui, on 05/27/2008, -2/+2Oh god, Obama's wife is anti-Obama, but attacking the wife would also be anti-Obama, can...not... compute
- Thuktun, on 05/27/2008, -2/+2(1) Wife and friend express worry about assassination.
(2) Competitor says she won't drop out of the race, pointing out that the race isn't always decided by now and that *assassinations have taken out opponents before.*
Yeah, these are, like, totally equivalent.
- unyuzyall, on 05/27/2008, -3/+6It wouldn't be the first assassination that has benefited the Clintons. Vince Foster, Ron Brown?
- deanjarvis, on 05/27/2008, -1/+10What the apologist are saying about Hillary's comments is complete and utter *****. The "examples" she cited aren't even relative to the current situation. In 1968 the primaries started in March and ended in June, that's 3 months. In 1992 they started in mid February and the nomination was clinched by mid May, that's 3 months. This undecided primary season has lasted 5 months, a good 2 months longer. So, her assassination comment is not only in bad taste but incorrect. And on any level makes her unfit to be a nominee for president let alone the president.
- Setter, on 05/27/2008, -4/+2What a funny little man you are, David Bromwich.
In an article that is ostensibly about the dirty politics of "delegitimation" you seek to delegitimize your political nemeses, Bill and Hillary Clinton.- Thuktun, on 05/27/2008, -1/+1If you had read and understood the article, you'd grasp that the de-legitimization he was talking about was by asserting unverifiable things, not by making reasoned arguments with evidence. His article is the latter, Hillary's comment was (according to the article) the former.
Reading comprehension. Too bad it's not the law.- Setter, on 05/27/2008, -0/+0Bromwich treats Hillary's assassination comment as a thinly veiled threat of violence. As you are certainly aware, many people interpret her comment as an honest reference to the duration of the delegate contest. The true meaning of her comment is unverifiable. Therefore, Bromwich is doing exactly what his article rails against - viz., asserting unverifiable things.
P.S.: "Reading comprehension" does not mean reaching the same conclusion as you.
- Setter, on 05/27/2008, -0/+0Bromwich treats Hillary's assassination comment as a thinly veiled threat of violence. As you are certainly aware, many people interpret her comment as an honest reference to the duration of the delegate contest. The true meaning of her comment is unverifiable. Therefore, Bromwich is doing exactly what his article rails against - viz., asserting unverifiable things.
- Thuktun, on 05/27/2008, -1/+1If you had read and understood the article, you'd grasp that the de-legitimization he was talking about was by asserting unverifiable things, not by making reasoned arguments with evidence. His article is the latter, Hillary's comment was (according to the article) the former.
- naterpoke, on 05/27/2008, -2/+1smarter than thou for the epic fail!
- Buzzbean, on 05/27/2008, -2/+2The one bit of delegitimation that is more blatent than any other is the one completely missing from this article. The fact that the media and the left-wing delegitimize our current president at every turn is not mentioned once in the article. Whether believe he has done a fatastic job or the worst job possible does not change the fact that he is being delegitimized constantly and no one thinks that's a problem, not even the person who writes an article about how bad delegitimation is.
- buckrogers1965, on 05/27/2008, -1/+2The media publishes everything word for word that the white house releases. They knowingly allow pentagon shills to come on their shows and spread government propaganda. They sit on stories for years before publishing so that the sting is taken out of them.
All of this is the exact opposite of delegitimizing. Whatever delegitimizing means.
- buckrogers1965, on 05/27/2008, -1/+2The media publishes everything word for word that the white house releases. They knowingly allow pentagon shills to come on their shows and spread government propaganda. They sit on stories for years before publishing so that the sting is taken out of them.
- loki49152, on 05/27/2008, -0/+2Deligitimation? It's "the politics of..." using made-up words!
- painhertz, on 05/27/2008, -1/+2Ech...now we're assured of at least 4 years of McCain. Not going to be much left of this country.
- karmathestrange, on 05/27/2008, -1/+4Well written.
- elliotys, on 05/27/2008, -1/+2BS. This is the same broken reasoning Bill O'Reilly uses when he attacks Americans who dissent during war. While I am anti-war and pro-dissent, it is well-known that dissent at home emboldens our enemies during a war. Does that mean we should not dissent, or talk about dissent? Absolutely not. Hillary Clinton obviously made an idiotic/unforgivable case for staying in the race, but the response from the dailykos/huffington post is like "shhhh, don't speak of bad things".
- crackberri, on 05/27/2008, -0/+1I love seeing Demotards fight.
- fddp2754, on 05/27/2008, -1/+1Guess what? Hillary Clinton wasn't referring to Barack Obama when she was talking assassination. I will grant you that it was an ill advised statement but, frankly, people have been all over Hillary Clinton since she started on this journey. You know, we can talk about how great the U.S. is with equality, we can live with the ridiculous fantasy that we are accepting and ready for a women president, but that's a bunch of bull. People have been telling Hillary Clinton to end her campaign since frackin' Iowa...when NOBODY was in the lead. America can't handle the thought of a woman as president. Hell, they'd rather elect the same bunch of good ole' boys that have been messing up this country for hundreds of years. And that's too bad. I'm a life-long Democrat. Neither Hillary Clinton nor Barack Obama are my choice. My number one choice wasn't allowed to run. His name is Dennis Kucinich. Neither Hillary Clinton nor Barack Obama are progressive enough for me. BUT of the two, I'd take Hillary first. I see Barack Obama's campaign as the cult of personality. I'm not sure who he is. I need more than "Yes we can" and "Change you can believe in." What does that mean?
- LastVisibleDog, on 05/27/2008, -2/+1What a festering load of fecal matter
Hillary Clinton did it - blame it on the Republican bogeyman
Democrats in the primaries are making racist statements - blame the Republican bogeyman
The Clinton's say outrageous things - blame the extreme Republican right (what a moron)
HINT: only Democrats are currently running against Obama (nit wit)
It is all the Republicans fault - except all the examples cited where done by Democrats (what an idiot)
The author mentions the south was against JFK but forgets to mention back then the south was a Democrat stronghold (Dixiecrats). JFK was assassinated by a leftist - not a Republican...and if not for the voting of dead Democrats in Chicago (and Nixon not wanting to rip the country apart) there would never have been a JFK presidency
Bill Clinton lying under oath in a court of law was just ok according to the author and Whitewater was "fruitless" except for the fact there was 15 convictions including Bill Clinton's Associate Attorney General - that is 15 more convictions than Iran/Contra. He blames all of Bill Clinton's problems (I guess including having sex with employees when he was supposed to be working) on the Republicans but fails to mention Bill Clinton was the first sitting president to be disbarred for lying in court and the first president to pay-off a sexual harassment lawsuit (to the tune of 1 million dollars)
Strange, nary a word about the worst and most extreme hatred/delegitimation of a president - that being the current Democrats hatred toward Bush and effort from day-one to delegitimatize
I am so sick lying left wing asshats
The Huffington Post is a bubbling cauldron of male bovine fecal matter - sweetholymosiah, on 05/28/2008, -0/+1before you comment, people... read past the first few paragraphs!
- VBDon, on 05/28/2008, -0/+1Let's face it. It's Obama who is playing the race card, the class warfare card, and now the assasination card. Hillary only said that, historically, Democratic nomination races can change in June and Obama does not yet have 51% of the delegates. He is trying desperately to disarm Hillary who still has a chance to toss him out of the ring. There is no way Obama can win a general election and Hillary has a slim chance of beating McCain. That's why she is promoting a centrist campaign. Obama is stuck with hiding his ultra-left Utopian Socialist dreams until he can get into the White House. Fat Chance!!!
The Republican party is just waiting until he has the nomination and they hold their convention before lowering the boom. His closet is so full of skeletons, you'll think the election race is a three month Halloween party. - dsmeryage, on 05/28/2008, -0/+1Aren't we getting a bit sensitive here, Obamamaniacs? After all, Michelle mentioned it first. And all the liberals were really enthused a year or so ago when a movie was being made featuring the "pretend" assassination of George Bush as I recall. ( I also remember it didn't do so well at the box office, nor on DVD)
- caponumen, on 05/28/2008, -0/+1Unfortunately it is a credible possibility, you can never underestimate racial, religious and popular hatred. I hope all the candidates are taking maximum precautions to avoid it, as the motivation for the act spans the entire political spectrum.
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