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Bush, Grandson of Nazi, Compares Obama to Nazi Appeasement

guardian.co.uk — George Bush's grandfather, the late US senator Prescott Bush, was a director and shareholder of companies that profited from their involvement with the financial backers of Nazi Germany. Prescott Bush arranged loans for Hitler and owned stock in companies that profited from slave labor.

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  • LoneRanger85, on 05/16/2008, -157/+60ZZzzzzzzz. Ted Kennedy's dad was such a devout Nazi sympathizer that he was booted out of his job as ambassador to Britain. Yet, I don't try to irrationally link Joe Kennedy's drunken woman-murdering son to the Nazis. That's because I'm not nuts. And did you really think your comparison hasn't been posted at least a dozen times before -- by other nuts?
    • schif, on 05/16/2008, -31/+52but mr. ranger sir ted does not act like a nazi and bush is the biggest nazi that citizens of this republic have ever had to endure as president.
      • schuder, on 05/16/2008, -9/+13WELCOME TO AMERICA! Where you are not judged by your parents actions, but on your own and your own merits. Enough of this crap, Bush is not responsible for Prescott Bush and Teddy Kennedy is not responsible for Joe Kennedy. Bury this crap and hold Bush responsible for what he's done and likewise for Obama. If you want to slight Bush you don't need to go after his grandfather, he's done plenty of BS himself.
        • MWeather, on 05/16/2008, -3/+5So you'd vote for Ed Hitler if he had a good platform?
      • pjkli, on 05/16/2008, -7/+10-Edit
        I changed my comment to schif after reading all the other ***** comments. I don't like Bush but you ***** are morons to think he is anything like the Nazi party.
      • MadOtaku, on 05/16/2008, -3/+6Finally! schuder and pjkil bring some reason into an insane discussion! You ***** half-wits are honestly supporting inherited guilt! What is wrong with you people? Were you born in the 15th century?
      • robthom, on 05/16/2008, -2/+2"but mr. ranger sir ted does not act like a nazi and bush is the biggest nazi that citizens of this republic have ever had to endure as president."

        He dons top hat and cape in anticipation for the applause!
    • rpi22, on 05/16/2008, -23/+80It's funny LoneNut85. I can remember, quite vividly, when Ron Paul was mistakenly photographed with that stormfront crazy (he had no idea who he was) that was more than enough for you to conclude that Ron Paul was a white supremacist racist.

      Here we have the Bush's close family and business ties to the nazis and you declare "nothing to see here, folks!"

      Oh, by the way, Bush was photographed with a nazi and knew full well who he was!
      http://oneworldnews.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/md ...

      I guess the moral of the story is that those whom live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones!

      That, and, if Bush doesn't want to be compared to Nazis, perhaps he shouldn't; start preemptive wars of aggression, destroy civil liberties in an attempt to centralize power under himself, make racist statements against members of a particular religion in an attempt to scapegoat them, and build secret prison camps where prisoners are tortured.
      • LoneRanger85, on 05/16/2008, -43/+3No, the moral of this story is you digger kids should not try to debate with grown-ups.
        • rpi22, on 05/16/2008, -2/+20It's one thing to have a relative thats ignorant enough to support nazi socialism. It's another thing entirely to have a war profiteering grandfather pass those values down to his affluent, powerful, and politically connected grandchildren who then go on to accuse others of being Nazi appeasers.
        • CryRightardCry, on 05/16/2008, -4/+16Well, LR85, if you can find a rightard who can debate like an adult point them to digg, because the rest of you just blather.
          It's pathetic for you to whine about appeasers when you cheer for the Warmonger in Chief.
          Gee, what's more like Hitler?
          Talking out problems, or starting wars?
          LOL
          You fail and fail and fail. If I were you I'd at least have the integrity to choke on it.
          HA! That's funny. As though the right wing extremists will ever stop lying.
          Is the problem that Prescott is a PROVEN traitor and Nazi supporter, while all you losers can do is make baseless claims?
          C'mon dumbass, you are really far too old to keep pulling this crap.
          It must be rough living on the low end of that IQ bell curve.
        • xtinamo, on 05/16/2008, -6/+3Maybe you grown-ups should stop kidding yourself into being 'hip' and go do whatever it is middle-aged people do instead of infiltrating our young people websites. Plus, the Lone Ranger sucks, alright kemo sabe?
        • paradexes, on 05/16/2008, -4/+3Not to mention the gay undertones with cowboy culture. ***** even the name cowboy has a weird beastiality connotation to it. Guess you just need to see brokeback mountain for more of the cowboy culture. Any old western can also drop the hints as well. From looking at your profile I can imagine the "convictions: you have. Seems consistent with alot of the hypocritical conservatives who scream Gays are bad but then turn up in a scandal where they were screwing a dude in a gas station bathroom or something of the sort. Dont claim the moral right and then turn up with ***** like this.

          I feel no shame in insulting you as you find yourself doing it to yourself.
        • oscenester, on 05/16/2008, -0/+4You got put to shame loneranger, and all you can do is rebut with a childish insult? hahaha. Epic Fail.
      • fxu1989, on 05/16/2008, -2/+7But what about if we're trapped in the glasshouse ?

        /Martin Demetri
      • robthom, on 05/16/2008, -1/+1I agree with your statement about glass houses. But the implied trail of blame proposed by this article isn't that far from stating that everyone who is german must be a nazi to. They might as well throw in that every white american is a racist slave owner while they're at it.
    • LoneRanger85, on 05/16/2008, -39/+10No, the moral of this story is you digger kids shouldn't try to debate with grown-ups.
      • kayvman78, on 05/16/2008, -7/+16No, the moral of this story is you "adults" need to stop thinking you know what you are doing. The "kids" are the only ones here that seem to have any sense in their heads..
        • keymanjim2, on 05/16/2008, -5/+6I vote this as funniest comment of the day.
        • marmanukem, on 05/16/2008, -3/+8And also the most true. "Adults" have been ***** up this country and planet enough. Time for the "kids" to have a voice.
        • Herkimer56, on 05/16/2008, -7/+5Yeah, letting the "kids" take over worked out real well in the sixties when I first heard this kind of rhetoric. Remember that Bush, Clinton and the others were the "kids" saying the same things forty years ago.
        • robthom, on 05/16/2008, -4/+2""Adults" have been ***** up this country and planet enough. "

          Actually this country has gotten worse exponentially ever since the youth culture revolution of the 60's. Letting "kids" influence important decisions is what has brought us to this sorry fate.
        • akamurph, on 05/16/2008, -1/+2If the usual Digg comments correlates to what kids think these days the future is not looking too good!
      • paradexes, on 05/16/2008, -9/+9Loneranger85, get off the Internet. You are a DC shill just as your profile implies. I am guessing you are a lobbyist, lawyer, or both. Or you are some kind of ignorant baboon with no sense of what the hell is going on in the bigger picture because you are to busy defending someone like Bush with partisan attacks. Truth of the matter is, Ted Kennedy is not the president. And if his Grandfather had Nazi ties? ok if he does so what? What good is that to him now? On the other hand President Bush seems very keen on working with America's enemies (not the ones he declares our enemies but the Saudis whom the majority of the 9/11 terrorists happened to be Oh and Osama Bin Laden is of Saudi decent too).

        So get off your DC high horse and get off the Internet. The people of the US don't need retards like you spouting off DC nonsense. This is no longer a liberal/conservative issue. It is a right and wrong issue. We have a President who is abusing his power for personal gain and a political system either to cowardly or benefiting from it. This is not conspiracy talk. This is fact. There are hundreds of news article supporting what I am stating here. If people want the facts they will find them. And many of them will in time. So GET OFF the Internet, it has enough ignorance as it is.
        • moolaismyfriend, on 05/16/2008, -3/+4No he is an ex Vietnam Vet. he told me a few weeks ago when I was challenging his childish world views.

          So it would appear he is still scarred from his experience fighting in Vietnam and losing the war to the Communist.
        • mrjoshua28, on 05/16/2008, -3/+3And what experiences have you had that would make your world views less childish? What have you ever risked your life doing, or fought for? I'm hoping you didn't mean that Vietnam comment as an attack on him because that would make you a horrible person.
      • grr74, on 05/17/2008, -1/+2The moral of the story is that you just proved that kids are smarter than you...

        (you should listen to them, they are going to take over one day you know)
      • roflbrothel, on 05/17/2008, -0/+2These "kids" (whether you acknowledge it or not) just embarrassed the hell out of you. You didn't even refute their rebuttals. Keep on with the ad-hominem *****, but if this is a debate you are losing at the moment and judging by what I've seen you write so far, you aren't likely to win.
    • moolaismyfriend, on 05/16/2008, -12/+5hey it's LoneRanger who said he fought in Vietnam and helped the Communist win.

      Why did you help the spread of Communism in SE Asia LoneRanger?
      • twinklyJesus, on 05/17/2008, -1/+1Ah yes, Moolah, the one minute bus station blowjob king
    • paradexes, on 05/16/2008, -10/+14Your argument falls apart there. Seeing that GWB is currently following in the footsteps of his Grandad (in working to enrich himself as well as his friends (some who are our enemies either openly or in secret) and saudi allies via the oil buisness), vs. Kennedy who is not (and is also not president incidentally) then the picture changes. Get your redneck, ignorant, fox news watching ass back to drinking beer and watching NASCAR (no offense to NASCAR watchers who know what is actually going on in the world). At least watching the cars going round and round the track will

      Your profile screams of silly DC punditry which the people have pretty much stopped trusting. "Convictions not opinions" (from your profile) my ass. You are a shill and a fearful one at that. people who make declarations like the ones you made in your profile are ignorant and full of fear, which you project in the form of fear mongering and spreading ignorance. And you will prove it should you reply. If you don't you will also have confirmed it.

      I have no qualms about insulting people like you because you are a large part of the problem with this country. You are a small but sadly very vocal minority (just like your extreme liberal counter parts who are also part of the problem) Your blind ignorance to what is happening around you (or you are aware and are enabling the problem for your own selfish benefit). Mind you I don't consider myself a "liberal" Democrat or Republican, or Even a libertarian. In fact I have many conservative values. REAL conservative values, not the neocon values. Not the Fox news muslims are all bad values, not the lets let corporations run wild. Not the shoot first ask questions later type of conservative. There is not party or group for people who think like I do anymore, and there are many.

      Bush Sr oddly enough was all for less taxes on the people (or so he claimed). Not that he ever made good on that. Neither did Bill Clinton. But this Bush seems hellbent on ruining the US for the next president or for whatever motive he has. If you can't get that through that peanut you call a brain then you have bigger problems. Get off the Internet and be a political shill somewhere in your home town of DC where it is accepted.

    • mrsteveman1, on 05/16/2008, -1/+7If the bush family ties to the Nazis aren't relevant, then neither is comparing current presidential candidates to nazi sympathizers, because the nazis are no long relevant to current political situations.

      The bush family however is very involved in other questionable groups, such as the saudi royal family, to the point that US government documents mysteriously have the phrase "saudi arabia" redacted from them, to avoid any possible suggestion that the saudis may have done anything wrong.
  • Bronnster, on 05/16/2008, -39/+22rpi22, thank you for the post.
    • MtNQyjgg6w, on 05/16/2008, -10/+0MtNQyjgg6w@gmail.com
    • jabberwolf, on 05/16/2008, -16/+4Yes because 246 Diggs
      and 23hrs and 40 minutes ago

      Warrants it being on the front page.

      Digg admins, ensure their own opinions of what's relevant on digg again!

      BURY!
  • andrewtna, on 05/16/2008, -49/+108Thank you for posting this, it's time people hear about this. However, the MSM would much rather spend the day talking about Jeremiah Wright and Michelle Obama.
    • FREETHINKER2008, on 05/16/2008, -5/+16That's our MSM, deciding what's newsworthy for us. Hey CNN/ MSNBC/ FOX, we don't need to hear about celebrities anymore. Your supposed to be NEWS channels not entertainment channels.
      • brycelb, on 05/16/2008, -10/+5"That's our MSM, deciding what's newsworthy for us"

        Umm, Isn't this kind of the point. If you want to start up your own cable news channel then you can decide what is fit to be broadcast. For someone claiming to be a free thinker you seem to be doing absolutely no "thinking". The "news" is a business and always has been. When people stop watching or reading then the business model changes. Why would anyone that runs a news corporation not broadcast something that will ultimately bring in more revenue. Just because it doesn't fit in with you particular wants doesn't mean anything. There are plenty of far left sudo news sources you can visit to feed your hunger.
        • FREETHINKER2008, on 05/16/2008, -4/+3Far left? I want news not infotainment. I gues you think it was a good idea for the MSM to spend 2 weeks reporting on the death of Anna Nicole Smith. Questioning things like that is good to do. It may be good business but it's not news.
        • bjornski, on 05/16/2008, -2/+4NOBODY has more complete Anna Nicole and Britney Spears coverage than Fox.

          They're the ultimate form of "tabloid journalism". Information and suggestions catering to the lowest common denominator on the intelligence scale.

          Fox "news" is no more factual than their other big hit, "The Simpsons".
        • SpudgeBoy, on 05/16/2008, -2/+6"The "news" is a business and always has been."

          No it hasn't. That is 100% incorrect.

          The news department used to be considered a loss department just like marketing departments. It is when the networks decided that news departments should be profit centers like sales departments that they failed us as a society.
      • artfiend77, on 05/16/2008, -4/+1I think we need to stop complaining about MSM and get people educated and and informed about unbiased ( read: reliable) internet news sources that show you what's really going on in the world. Digg, sans the comments is a great way to find out what's going on all across the planet. Its seems this century a lot of old business models need to be updated ( music industry, movie industry, power , news)

        MSM has sold out for a long time now, sadly enough. There are a few good jounalists out there but even they dont get to get there messages through due to censorship, sensationalism and $$$.
        • masterm1nd, on 05/16/2008, -2/+3Because the best way to get educated and informed is to believe everything you read on the internet. Seriously though, nothing is unbiased, so you should consume a balance of biased media, if your goal is to get unbiased information.
        • artfiend77, on 05/16/2008, -1/+3Oh but of course, you're totally right, no such thing as objective un biased journalism anymore. But people just relying on CNN or Fox for their news NEED to know there are other alternatives out there. Plainly put, seeing both sides of the coin.
        • xGORDOx, on 05/16/2008, -0/+5or MSNBC.
          come on, call a spade a spade.
        • artfiend77, on 05/16/2008, -0/+4Of course, OR MSNBC. The problem is that TV news stations rely on advertising to survive, and the more viewers who watch the more money advertisers make. They have much more overhead than a website news source. And what's the best way to get people to watch in todays "dumbed down" society? Play the same useless ***** over and over, use key words like " TERROR" and "HUSSEIN" and "ISLAM" or "911" and scare tactics, subtly impose your opinion on them all the while giving it the impression that you are a serious and reliable source. MSM sould be called MCM = Mind Control Media.
        • xGORDOx, on 05/16/2008, -1/+2or MCM - Mc Media

          I like that! lol.
    • FutureGuy, on 05/16/2008, -3/+4Its about time someone gets their attentions to this, it only needs one person with influence to bring this up.
      • bjornski, on 05/16/2008, -4/+2To bring up Joe Kennedy? Who lost his job sympathizing with Nazis, or Prescott Bush, who BANKROLLED them?

        The irony of Bush going to Israel and using the Nazis as a scare tactic and smear against his opponents is pretty funny, especially in light of the fact that his grandpa was the one that made the Holocaust possible in the first place.
        • xGORDOx, on 05/16/2008, -4/+3Bush has opponents?
          Who is he running against?
        • bjornski, on 05/16/2008, -0/+4Okay. How about "the opposing political party".

          Does everything have to be spelled out specific syllable syllable for you to understand?
    • aseriesoftubes, on 05/16/2008, -0/+4Er, the Guardian *is* MSM. Well, at least where I live.
    • xGORDOx, on 05/16/2008, -7/+5Problem is the article is just plain wrong.
      Bush was commenting on Jimmy Carter.
      You people are morons.
    • RedHerringHack, on 05/16/2008, -5/+5That's the first thing I thought about was that loudmouth jimmy carter who has been all over the middle east acting like he is actually in charge. It's funny that the dummycrats are acting all self-righteous about it. Yep, morons.
      • supermanred, on 05/17/2008, -0/+2Morons? Lol. I assume you are one of the Republicans? Your leader, and Commander In Chief is a retarded grandson of a Nazi funder.

        Get real.
        • xGORDOx, on 05/17/2008, -1/+1Assuming makes an ass....
          Well you know how it goes.
          In my primary I voted Ron paul, so yea, I voted Republican but I consider myself a Libertarian.
          The comments were obvioulsy stated at Jimmy Carters recent trip, it was beyond obvious.
    • nastronomical, on 05/16/2008, -4/+6Obama: Sure, I'll meet with Castro, Chavez, Ahmadinejad, etc

      ****Link****


      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSFSUbMWenU
      • apetrie, on 05/16/2008, -0/+5So.. what is your point? That he is willing to talk to people? OH THE HORROR!
        • xGORDOx, on 05/16/2008, -2/+2Talking with the President of the United States is an immense honor to any other leader in the world.
          I know we don't really think so, but it is, and when you do, you give credence and legitimacy to that leader. Diplomatically, meeting with every dictator isn't the right thing to do, as it elevates that leader, as as we all know (Mugabe, Kim Jong Il, etc. ) certain people don't deserve that sort of treatment.
        • apetrie, on 05/16/2008, -0/+2You must be kidding me! An immense honour? According to who? I think that depends on the popular view of the U.S. president, and the U.S. in general in that country. Not too many leaders would feel all that honoured right now, not even the leaders of the U.S. allies. You're also thinking way too much of yourself. Believe me, no leader of Canada feels immensely honoured to meet the leader of the U.S. nor would the leader of Britain, or any other western country. Respect? Sure. Admiration? Depends! Any more honoured than they would be to meet each other? ***** no. Get over yourself.
        • xGORDOx, on 05/17/2008, -1/+1apetrie, are you like 12 years old or what?
          Have you ever been outside of your own country?
          You world view is pathetic.
          What "Western" or British or Canadian leader is governing a country we have poor relations with?
          Your a Moron. Obama wasn't talking about Canada you douchebag, he's talking about Syria, N. Korea, and other countries that are ruled by dictators.

          If you don't think a U.S. President (any President) visiting a foreign nation isn't an honor to that country then explain the "pomp & circumstance". Explain the parades, the gala events, the photo ops with that countries dignitaries.
          You sir are an idiot, and you are exactly what is wrong with the western world. Your world view is selfish and pathetically childish in it's scope of reality.
      • TokenBlack, on 05/16/2008, -0/+3Castro, Chavez, and Ahmadinejad are not leaders of Terrorist organizations, dumbass. I can see your argument that they are dictators or need to be stopped, but they are not terrorists like Hamas and such. Talking to leaders of countries who want to remain in power is different than talking to terrorist leaders who will give up everything to get their goals accomplished. Get your facts straight.
  • bitfreak, on 05/16/2008, -29/+58If you haven't read this article, it's great...go read it and email it to the usual press outlets. I hope it sees the light of day in the US MSM. I always wondered where the Bush family got their start in wealth building and political power. Looks like the "screw the world to make a buck" gene is strong in the Bush family, not to mention being totally ok with killing people to make a few bucks.

    There is some detail at www.wikipedia.org on this as well.
    • ender7074, on 05/16/2008, -15/+6The Kennedy's got their weath defying the laws of Prohibition and Joe Kennedy was a supporter of the Nazi government. Guess thats ok because their libs right? Pot meet kettle.
      • MacEnvy, on 05/16/2008, -3/+11If Ted Kennedy ever becomes president and then accuses others of acting like Nazi appeasers, then I'll gladly digg you up. But in the meantime your argument is called a "strawman".
        • mmmmmbiscuits, on 05/16/2008, -1/+6You get an A+ in moral equivalence.
    • jana67, on 05/16/2008, -9/+1Obama has his own "issues" that is for sure!
      http://www.squidoo.com/obamavideoshowcase
    • boonesfarm, on 05/16/2008, -2/+2Read the article, no mention of "arranging loans" or being any other servant to Hitler.
      Shareholder... possibly. Volkswagen, Siemens, Porsche, Disney... any of you deal with these companies?
      You know, if you want to link GWB to flimsy, derisive disinformation about his grandfather, why don't you take that broad brush and paint yourself a nazi - guilt by association...and link Obama to Wirght and the Weather Underground.
      The submitter can clutch his Guardian, continue to recycle his anti-Bush tinder, and watch the demographic landscapes of Europe and Africa change for the worse.
    • More4, on 05/16/2008, -0/+3Prescott Bush was allegedly involved in the 1933 "White House Putsch" against FDR.
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prescott_Bush
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Plot
      "On July 23, 2007, the BBC Radio 4 series Document reported on the alleged Business Plot and the archives from the McCormack-Dickstein Committee hearings. The program mentioned Bush's directorship of the Hamburg-America Line, a company that the committee investigated for Nazi propaganda activities, and the alleged 1933 attempt, supposedly led by Gerald MacGuire, to stage a military coup against President Franklin D. Roosevelt aimed at forcing Roosevelt to resign (or, failing that, to assassinate him) and at installing a fascist dictatorship in the United States."

      Watch the History Channel for details -
      Video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6287286317 ...
      Book: http://store.aetv.com/html/search/index.jhtml?sear ...
  • Infidelcastr0, on 05/16/2008, -33/+63People know that Bush is a true patriot, that true patriotism is determined by lapel pins and how xenophobic you are, not whether your family fortune (and many of your policies) came from the Nazis.
    • bitfreak, on 05/16/2008, -8/+31What is sickening about your comment is how absolutely true it is. My Mother in Law (a devout, almost militant Catholic - I mention this because somehow it always comes up in her church groups) actually thinks Obama is Muslim, and GWB is the greatest president ever. All of this negative media about GWB is propaganda....and so on. It's so bad that my wife and I cannot talk to her about anything, it's really caused a rift in our family.
      • ender7074, on 05/16/2008, -21/+2So because she has different beliefs than you she's wrong. Where's your vaunted liberal open mindedness? Guess that only applies when someone agrees with you. Kudos to your mother in law for not being swayed from her beliefs.
        • acegi, on 05/16/2008, -2/+6Belief is one thing,

          making a claim that Obama - who clearly went to church for last twenty-something years a muslim is another.

          if it's not a fact, then it's not right - therefor- it is wrong.
      • lisaawesome, on 05/16/2008, -3/+7Bitfreak, my old roommate's mother honestly believes God chose GWB to be president. This woman also says God told her she deserved to buy a new home. How can people be so uterrly delusional? It's one thing to believe in God but to say he is basically appointing presidents is a little absurd. I guess this lady doesn't realize how many un-Christianly things God's appointee has done.
    • rolf, on 05/16/2008, -3/+11Sigh, this whole article is based on inherited/inherent guilt -- which the Nazi's used heavily as one of their tactics to demonize jews and others so I find it laughably sad that others are trying the same thing. Human nature never changes. (Although, thinking about it, original sin is the entire basis of some religions.)

      Also, I don't know much about Prescott Bush, but in his wiki entry, all I find is that he held 1 (ONE) share of a company that was trading with the nazis several days after Pearl Harbor:
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prescott_Bush#Busines ...

      I don't like Bush and think little of his Presidency. But this "Nazi this, Nazi that" does not help with the argument. I have not read his comments about appeasement and Obama, but I would not be surprised -- he essentially labeled all people against the war as such throughout his presidency.
      • LumpyRevolution, on 05/17/2008, -1/+2How on earth then do you think he got the name "Hitler's Angel"?
        This data (fact by the way) has been around for a long long time, buried by main stream media.
      • tara108, on 05/17/2008, -0/+2The Zeitgeist Movie may help clarify the Bush Nazi connection..I am disappointed to hear that wiki is so lacking in details...there is a lot more to the story...

        http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/main.htm

        You can watch the whole thing online for free...highly recommended!
  • bearsandbulls, on 05/16/2008, -32/+63It'snot fair to somehow blame grandchildren for the actions of
    theirgrandfathers. Why not just peg GW Bush with the wrongdoings he's
    donepersonally, there is plenty.

    Savings and Loan scandal
    http://rationalrevolution0.tripod.com/war/bush_fam ...
    • rpi22, on 05/16/2008, -5/+10This is true. However, the Bush family is an institution in its own right. And for one of its prominent members to display such a profound lack of values and clearly extraordinary beliefs about what is acceptable, you have to wonder about the rest of this tight knit clan. If these are the values they instill in their children, no wonder why we've had so many problems with them.

      In the end, this is just another piece of evidence that these people are shady and unscrupulous.

      As George Dubya Bush once said, "The tree don't fall far from the nut!"
      • macweirdo42, on 05/16/2008, -11/+3Hey, George Bush Sr. was a great president, and still is a great man. I don't know where he went so wrong in instilling his own values into his son.
        • acegi, on 05/16/2008, -0/+1it's like sequel to a great movie.

          sequels never quite live up to its predecessor
    • richporter, on 05/16/2008, -5/+5Look, if we as Americans can judge a man's character based on the associations that man has, then we certainly can judge a man based on his family history. I would think the history of his or her family should mean more than current associations. I'd much rather know about how Bush's grandfather planned to overthrow FDR than how far under the coversW. is with Karl Rove.
      • Di0genes, on 05/16/2008, -2/+2I think your logic needs some fine-tuning, to say the least.
    • rbk303, on 05/16/2008, -1/+5I think it IS fair to say that similar genetics plus a similar environemt will produce similar people.
    • homanh, on 05/16/2008, -1/+4To the OP: What you say is true, but we're just trying to prove a point here regarding Bush's speech to the Zionist regime
    • Archos, on 05/16/2008, -1/+4Prescott was also member of the same satanic secret society that George Bush is a member of today: Skull & Bones. http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=skull+%26+bo ...
      ... Bohemian Grove, Bilderberg, Council on Foreign Relations, United Nazis etc.
      Oh and H.W. Bush killed John F Kennedy while serving the CIA . . .
  • doctorfungi, on 05/16/2008, -75/+117You've blown this WAY out of proportion.

    Prescott Bush wasn't a Nazi at all. Hate Geroge Bush all you want, but let's not start lying about things. Prescott owned 1 share in a company that was owned by a man who was briefly a financial banker for the Nazis. That same man was later arrested by the very Nazi's he used to be supportive of for denouncing the party.

    By that logic, anyone who owns a Volkswagen is a Nazi. Prescott may have had indirect dealings with Nazis, but the man himself wasn't a Nazi. That's just obscene and irrational.

    Look, I'm not sticking up for what Bush said about Obama. Let's just stick to rational facts though, please?
    • rpi22, on 05/16/2008, -18/+64NO! Prescott was originally in business with Thyssen, a Nazi Industrialist, but then later moved on to banking with the Harrimans in NYC. The Brown Brothers' Harriman bank arranged loans for Hitler. They provided capital to his war machine. They collected interest on these loans! They also helped Nazis fleeing Nuremberg hide their assets and move to South America!!

      Prescott had assets seized DURING WW2 under the "Trading with the Enemy Act," and even still, he went right back to it!!

      RTFA, do some research, and don't give me that *****!
      • Defuser, on 05/16/2008, -32/+12I think the bigger point is that you're a douchebag.

        Bush said nothing about Obama in his speech. Nobody in Bush's family was ever a Nazi. So basically, you're trying to create an "outrage" where none exists. So ***** off.
      • AtomicTheory, on 05/16/2008, -15/+8Ummm.... If I opened up a hardware store, with a serial killer as my partner, would that make me a serial killer?

        No.

        Prescott Bush was not a Nazi.

        buried: Inaccurate
        • GoodDamon, on 05/16/2008, -1/+8Ummm.... If you supplied weapons used by that serial killer in his murders, knowing full-well about his derangements, would that make you an accomplice?

          Yes.
      • MasterGrief, on 05/16/2008, -5/+3NO!
      • anubis2night, on 05/16/2008, -4/+13Your logic is all wrong.If you opened a hardware store with a serial killer knowing he was a serial killer and knew that opening the store would allow him access to continue killing (as is the case with prescott bush) then yes you would be as culpable for the crimes as the serial killer. It's called colluding with the enemy. It's also called treason. Treason: Violation of allegiance toward one's country or sovereign, especially the betrayal of one's country by waging war against it or by consciously and purposely acting to aid its enemies. A betrayal of trust or confidence;

        It seems that the apples don't fall far from the tree. Oh and Defuser, do you really need to call someone a douchebag? If so why not try that in a face to face with someone on the street. I doubt you would as it would result in your ass getting kicked. Why not try using the same decorum that you would with people face to face. It's o.k. to disagree with someone but to resort to name calling just cheapens the point your trying to make, even if it's not represented by any stated facts as a defense.
    • inajeep, on 05/16/2008, -5/+7According to the wiki, your right. I didn't check the sources at the bottom though.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prescott_Bush

    • rpi22, on 05/16/2008, -10/+21FTA: "You can't blame Bush for what his grandfather did any more than you can blame Jack Kennedy for what his father did - bought Nazi stocks - but what is important is the cover-up, how it could have gone on so successfully for half a century, and does that have implications for us today?" he said.

      "This was the mechanism by which Hitler was funded to come to power, this was the mechanism by which the Third Reich's defence industry was re-armed, this was the mechanism by which Nazi profits were repatriated back to the American owners, this was the mechanism by which investigations into the financial laundering of the Third Reich were blunted," said Loftus, who is vice-chairman of the Holocaust Museum in St Petersburg.

      "The Union Banking Corporation was a holding company for the Nazis, for Fritz Thyssen," said Loftus. "At various times, the Bush family has tried to spin it, saying they were owned by a Dutch bank and it wasn't until the Nazis took over Holland that they realised that now the Nazis controlled the apparent company and that is why the Bush supporters claim when the war was over they got their money back. Both the American treasury investigations and the intelligence investigations in Europe completely bely that, it's absolute *****. They always knew who the ultimate beneficiaries were."

      "There is no one left alive who could be prosecuted but they did get away with it," said Loftus. "As a former federal prosecutor, I would make a case for [the directors of the bank] Prescott Bush, his father-in-law (George Walker) and Averill Harriman [to be prosecuted] for giving aid and comfort to the enemy. They remained on the boards of these companies knowing that they were of financial benefit to the nation of Germany."

      What is also at issue is how much money Bush made from his involvement. His supporters suggest that he had one token share. Loftus disputes this, citing sources in "the banking and intelligence communities" and suggesting that the Bush family, through George Herbert Walker and Prescott, got $1.5m out of the involvement.
      • ender7074, on 05/16/2008, -4/+5So when are we going to prosecute Jane Fonda for giving "aid and comfort" to North Vietnam? When are we going to prosecute every portion of free speech that has been exercised protesting the war in Iraq. Why is it we only want to prosecute selectively?
        • mithrasinvictus, on 05/16/2008, -0/+3Trading with the enemy is not expression of free speech.
          I'm sure people financing Al Quaida would be prosecuted today.
          Prescott had his assets frozen and later released to him. He got off very lightly.
        • amirman, on 05/16/2008, -0/+2The Government of North Vietnam was the government that the huge majority of the vietnamese wanted. have you ever heard of the right to self determination? we violated that. We supported the colonizers in that war. It was an embarrassment and utter *****.
      • tara108, on 05/17/2008, -0/+2http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/main.htm
        'splains it all Lucy!

        Prescott Bush was made tons of money by financing and suppling both side of WWII, just like the Bush family and all of their cronies are doing now...this is in fact the whole reason they staged the false flag operation known as 911...
    • ender7074, on 05/16/2008, -15/+4We dont come to Digg for rational thought. Remember its the Liberal, love Obama, Bush is evil mantra and nothing else. Logic doesnt exist here.
      • swicken, on 05/16/2008, -0/+2I don't think he's evil, he's not smart enough to be evil.
        I just think he's terrible at his job.
    • maddskillz, on 05/16/2008, -1/+4Actually, VW was taken over by British Army Major Ivan Hirst after the war, so that should cancel out previously being owned by the nazis
      • Abomonog, on 05/17/2008, -1/+1And almost immediately returned to Ferdinand Porche, who had designed many Nazi toys.
    • caramba420, on 05/16/2008, -9/+14BZZZT. Wrong again. Prescott Bush was actually involved in a failed coup plot to overthrow FDR and install a fascist dictatorship here in the US.

      http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2007/2407 ...
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Plot
      • MasterGrief, on 05/16/2008, -11/+5I don't care if you're right or not, for saying "BZZT. Wrong again." I'm burying you.
    • sreed888, on 05/16/2008, -1/+4Prescott Bush was a Nazi sympathizer. That's been well established. While I agree it's unfair to paint George W with the same brush, his own failure to own up to that family connection while unreasonably accusing others of being appeasers (a lesser crime than sympathizer) adds to his pitiful puniness.
    • amirman, on 05/16/2008, -1/+4YEAH PRESCOTT BUSH WAS NOT A A NAZI!!!!!!!
      he was just a nazi "appeaser"
      • supermanred, on 05/17/2008, -0/+2JUST?????

        Dude, if an enemy invades MY country, and my neighbour HELPS THEM... he is going to have his throat cut in the near future.

        JUST an appeaser?????
        • amirman, on 05/17/2008, -0/+2dude sir, please. notice the strategic use of the word "appeaser" which has become the new conservative mantra. it was sarcasm.
  • EatingPie, on 05/16/2008, -34/+17Thanks doctorfungi, good info.

    It's also important to remember that Bush never called Obama a "Nazi." He didn't use the term Nazi, nor did he name Obama.

    -Pie
    • blakecr, on 05/16/2008, -3/+9He actually did use the term Nazi. "As Nazi tanks crossed into Poland..." The real problem here is that he was pushing the same political "bull *****" in a speech commemorating the 60th year of an Israeli state. That is deplorable. Did you see some of the reaction shots of the people in the room? They all woke up from a nap and put on their sour faces.
    • suzywang3000, on 05/16/2008, -4/+7thanks for reminding us that you are Pie.
    • dognose, on 05/16/2008, -3/+5Bush said some people want to negotiate with terrorists, not Obama specifically. Diggers think that he was referring to Obama. They also think that Nazi sympathizer == Nazi. Pie corrects these people but is dugg down.

      If you Obama supporters what him to become president, you should probably start by arguing actual facts, instead of made up lies.
    • byronne, on 05/16/2008, -4/+3Okay, Pie. Get a handle on how to use comment threading and STOP SIGNING YOUR POSTS!!!

      It's also important to remember the context of Bush's speech and how completely inappropriate many of his statements were. If you saw any of the audience reaction, they ranged from complete horror to mystified.
    • FutureGuy, on 05/16/2008, -2/+3Digg Moderator: I accidental clicked report on this comment, didn't mean to.
    • EatingPie, on 05/16/2008, -1/+3Thanks for the correction on him using the term Nazi. I had read the quote yesterday and should have re-read it before posting.

      -Pie
  • insomniacal, on 05/16/2008, -27/+51Since when does being a criminal's grandson make you a criminal? Buried for guilt by association. There's plenty of ammunition to use against Bush without committing logical errors.
    • notanidiot, on 05/16/2008, -7/+18Well, lets just say that its funny to see Bush compare Obama to Nazi "appeasers", when his own blood was an actual Nazi "enabler."
      • PolishLogic, on 05/16/2008, -3/+5Well then, let's start tracing family trees of all our politicians, just to see what ***** we can pin on them with six degrees of separation or less.
    • rpi22, on 05/16/2008, -10/+28You're right! You should never compare people to Nazis unless they have secret prison camps where people are tortured, engage in preemptive wars of aggression, and destroy civil liberties in an attempt to consolidate centralized power underneath themselves!
      • paperclipsNsoup, on 05/16/2008, -5/+9Zing
      • artfiend77, on 05/16/2008, -5/+3that was a beautiful comeback man.
        • mmmmmbiscuits, on 05/16/2008, -4/+3Um yeah....if you're not too bright and easily impressed.
      • masterm1nd, on 05/16/2008, -3/+5The funny thing about your analogy is, even the "good guys" dropped a frickin nuke on a city. You're trying to say we're the "bad guys", when we are not. Relative to the actual "bad guys of the time" we're still the "good guys" trying to defeat them...
        • amirman, on 05/16/2008, -1/+2nice fantasy. BAM POW!!! THE GOOD GUYS WIN!!! you think like a child.
        • masterm1nd, on 05/16/2008, -1/+1I think you completely missed the point. If you made a little more sense I could give you a reply.
        • NYPD, on 05/16/2008, -0/+1Mastermind, I'm going to get kicked off of here. If your on Sodahead my name is easy. DrT.
          Come on over. It's a blast. If you see this Answer it so I know you see it.

          Mine is easy .............. DrT : SODAHEAD
        • masterm1nd, on 05/16/2008, -1/+1I'm not sure what Sodahead is but I'll look into it sometime. Maybe you could shout me details.
        • NYPD, on 05/17/2008, -1/+0http://www.sodahead.com/

          rush.baby@yahoo.com
        • NYPD, on 05/17/2008, -1/+0Hell you can call me and I can talk you into the first part. It's fun and you can do anything you want. Almost anything. I just started last week. It's well, a lot for different people and you can chat easier. Send add picture. Songs a lot more to do. email with your email I can tell you more about me, but not here. This might get hammered with rush email.
      • PolishLogic, on 05/16/2008, -4/+6All of which was happening in this country LONG before Bush came into office.

        Civil liberties...see Hover's FBI.
        Consolidating power under the Executive Branch....see FDR or even Lincoln (who, incidentally, suspended habeas corpus 3 times in his tenure).
        Torture in secret prison camps....see the history of the CIA.
        Preemptive wars of aggression....see Korea, Vietnam, and Iraq 1.

        Bush is just continuing quite a few long standing traditions of the Federal Government, some of which were used by some of our "greatest" Presidents.

        Right back at you.
      • frgough, on 05/16/2008, -3/+5The fact you can make such a rant and still be alive proves what an ignorant ass you are.
    • asspants, on 05/16/2008, -4/+7I think the reason this is brought up is to compare and contrast because a lot of the idiots from west virginia seem to think that since Obama's daddy was an apostate of islam that it means that B. HUSSEIN Obama is going to be a muslim suicide bomber. Get it?

      Seems perfectly logical, no?

      • ender7074, on 05/16/2008, -4/+3By the average logic presented on this website, yes. You people jump on any minute little thing to blast Bush whether its logical, or even sane, or not. Guess thats ok though right?
        • asspants, on 05/16/2008, -1/+2what dude? the things you just said, make no ***** sense at all, can someone please translate that for me?
      • NYPD, on 05/17/2008, -1/+0You sound Black. Are you?
      • asspants, on 05/17/2008, -0/+2No, I'm a cracker. A pale white pasty nerd that stays indoors all day.
    • paradexes, on 05/16/2008, -2/+2Kettle + pot = black
      Make sense now?
    • Archos, on 05/16/2008, -1/+2Prescott Bush supported the man who said this:
      "National Socialism will use its own revolution for establishing a New World Order." - Adolf Hitler, 1933
      ... produced the man who said this:
      "What is at stake is more than one small country, it is a big idea - a New World Order" - George H.W. Bush, sept. 11, 1991
      ... who produced the man who followed this man's advice:
      "There is a chance for the President of the United States to use this disaster to carry out what his father, a phrase his father used I think only once and hasn't been used since, and that is a New World Order." - CFR's Gary Hart, sept. 12, 2001
      ... and who works closely with this man:
      "A new world is emerging, it is a New World Order with significantly different and radically new challenges for the future" - Gordon Brown, British PM, 2007

      Watch "Endgame: Blueprint for Global Enslavement"...
      http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1070329053 ...
      • NYPD, on 05/17/2008, -2/+0WOW your head might blow up your so smart.
        • Archos, on 05/17/2008, -0/+2My head might blow up my so smart .. *what*?
  • notanidiot, on 05/16/2008, -20/+95http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/document/docum ...

    How bout this article, which outlines Bush's conspiracy to stage a coup against FDR and instead use the methods of Nazi Germany to get us out of the depression?
    • JointVenture, on 05/16/2008, -7/+3You did see that Kerrys wifes family was mentioned in that article.

      You do understand that this was during the great depression and that the country almost collapsed.

      It was a different time, and some thought that drastic actions were needed.

      They were wrong, and they moved on.

      Just look at Mrs Kerry's house to see how well it worked out for them.
    • BlacklabelSAR, on 05/16/2008, -0/+1http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_plot
  • NonLeftistDiggr, on 05/16/2008, -39/+35Yeah, this never happend as advertised. Exactly how you people reached this conclusion couldn't be figured out by a team of nobel scientists.

    If you're going to make up *****, why not just go full throttle instead of rehashing this one over and over? Why not rearrage his words for every speech, I'm sure you can get "I don't like black people" or "I rape babies" out of it somehow.
    • Troy64, on 05/16/2008, -10/+4I am sure that Prescott was backing the Nazis while his son was fighting the Japanese during WWII. That makes a lot of since.
      • anubis2night, on 05/16/2008, -2/+4I fail to see how financing Nazi's could endanger his son in fighting the Japanese. While this was a world war and Germany and Japan were both aggressors. They were not ideologically the same war machine. So financing one had little to do with the other one. I can see Prescott Bush financing Nazi's particularly if he already had business dealing with them as it has been shown, even if his son was at war in the pacific, exactly how many Nazi's were in the Pacific or their weapons?
    • ender7074, on 05/16/2008, -6/+9You forgot where you are. Posters on Digg rarely makes sense.
  • DaDrake, on 05/16/2008, -13/+7isn't this ALLREADY on the front-page?
  • BryanG412, on 05/16/2008, -25/+38The entire Bush family has a legacy of political corruption...how did this man become our President?
    • paperclipsNsoup, on 05/16/2008, -5/+13Voting Faud
    • ender7074, on 05/16/2008, -10/+4Wow, when are you guys going to get a different argument. Guess who's supporting voter fraud... The left. ACORN had been caught doing it several times. Who is leading the fight against requiring ID to vote? You got it, the left. If voter fraud is a real concern, you should take a look at what the Democraps are doing before whining about losing an election.
    • bjornski, on 05/16/2008, -2/+13How did he become President? You answered that yourself.

      His family's legacy of political corruption.
    • nocturnoculto, on 05/16/2008, -3/+7political corruption.
    • PolishLogic, on 05/16/2008, -8/+4"how did this man become our President"

      Quite simple, his election opponents were ***** than he was.
      • roflbrothel, on 05/17/2008, -0/+3Actually, the first time around we didn't pick Bush. We wanted Gore. We got ***** over by the electorate and federal courts.

        The second time around smelled pretty fishy too.
    • cufford, on 05/16/2008, -3/+7It's not "voter fraud" -- that's the straw man that the Republicans are using to try and implement voter disenfranchisement measures such as caging, I.D. requirements, etc. - it's "election fraud" that you mean to say. Rigging the counting of the votes.

      It's not bad voters (voter fraud), it's those who count the votes (election fraud).

      And in this country right now, the majority of votes are counted on private industry machines with no verifiable audit trail, owned by card-carrying Republican supporters. In short, they control the machines we cast our votes on.

      They can't win without cheating, so they cheat.
      • PolishLogic, on 05/16/2008, -0/+4Yes, why be required to show proof of who you are in order to vote and cut down on voter fraud.

        All though I know that the ex Mayor of Chicago, Richard Daley would have been vehemently opposed to it. He was constantly re-elected thanks to the votes of the deceased, even the multiple votes of the deceased. I won't mention his party affiliation, though. I wouldn't want to see you hang your head in shame.

        It's rather simple to get a photo ID, you know.
        • bjornski, on 05/17/2008, -1/+1I actually agree with some basic form of I.D. to vote. If you can't prove who you are, or refuse to, then I honestly don't think you should be voting.

          It's not discrimination against the poor. Know how much a state I.D. costs? About $10. In fact, it'd be great to see something added to the state charters that if you're too poor to get a state I.D., that you can get a $10 "voucher" for one. Being able to identify yourself really helps in things like medical emergencies, and yes, when stopped for crimes.

          If you refuse to get a state I.D> because you'll be arrested on past warrants or something, then I question if you should be voting either. And at that point, your I.D> has been established anyway. The only reason to not have some form on you is to hide from it.

          Having some form of identification isn't a "poll tax", and it's not a punishment.
  • BohicaTwentyTwo, on 05/16/2008, -22/+332004 called, they want their article back.
    • nblsavage, on 05/16/2008, -4/+51998 called, they want their joke back.
      • p0s3r, on 05/16/2008, -5/+58000 BC called, they want their mentality back.
        • nblsavage, on 05/16/2008, -1/+58000 B.C. heralded the rise of agriculture, domestication of the cat, ox and sheep, the beginings of pottery and the beginning of rice cultivaton in East Asia. The technology was primitive but the minds weren't. Care to try again?
        • p0s3r, on 05/16/2008, -3/+48000000 BC called, they want their brain back.

          How's that?
        • nblsavage, on 05/16/2008, -2/+3Sorry, still kinda lame :) Nice effort tho.
        • p0s3r, on 05/16/2008, -1/+5Yeah. I should've known the 8000BC one. I'm a huge fan of Jared Diamond's books on the topic.
        • nblsavage, on 05/16/2008, -1/+3Heh, would it blow my image of being a "libtard" to say I do enjoy jousting with you? You and Stevanoski help keep me sharp and I do think your hearts are in the right places it's just your brains aren't ;) (and yes I imagine you thinking the same of me)
    • pintomp3, on 05/16/2008, -2/+2obviously history has changed since then.
  • georgemason01, on 05/16/2008, -20/+1Bush just got owned by rpi22.
  • whiterice0, on 05/16/2008, -18/+27Someone get some guts and stop digging this garbage up. Comon' Bury Bridgade. Do your job!!! Keep the Elite 100 in line. http://www.chrisfinke.com/digg/topusers
  • wynja, on 05/16/2008, -21/+6The Nazi Party must be proud of their elite head of state George W. Bush.
  • tinko, on 05/16/2008, -20/+4The irony! ***** Bush.
    • mmmmmbiscuits, on 05/16/2008, -0/+1"The irony! ***** Bush."

      Let's see....Five (5) asterisks...
      AWSUM Bush?
      SUPER Bush?
      EMCEE Bush?
      GEORGE Bush?

      You're teh smart, tinko.
  • justinlarsen, on 05/16/2008, -19/+5I'm guessing Bush has not read about Godwin's Law.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law
  • NeoCortex, on 05/16/2008, -29/+70Isn't calling Bush the grandson of a Nazi just as bad as Bush calling Obama a Nazi appeaser? Do we really need to resort to this?
    • Harboggles, on 05/16/2008, -8/+14The very reason bush is president is due to his family roots i think it's perfectly relevant and not a cheap shot. Further, it exposes the hypocrisy of his statement.
    • jonesin, on 05/16/2008, -6/+9The truth matters.
    • shig, on 05/16/2008, -8/+4No. I'm not just 'calling' him the grandson of a Nazi, the man is a living, breathing, descendant of one of the most prominent American Nazis. A posteriori fact and scientifically verifiable. If not by genes then by deeds, surely.
  • Apocrypha, on 05/16/2008, -23/+27Yep, grampy Bush looked up to Hitler. Him and some others wanted to remodel the US after what Hitler was doing. It's funny how Americans are so selective about what they remember.
    • ender7074, on 05/16/2008, -2/+5Funny also how people were in awe of the Nazi regieme until he started attacking people. For all of his evil, Hitler did restore Germany from a crushing depression. The ends dont justify the means by any fashion but there were a great many countries that envied Germany before it went off the rails.
      • kingmanic, on 05/16/2008, -2/+4Hitler financed Germany's restoration through borrowing. To pay that back he had to get more assets thus his expansion through war. If he hadn't raped Europe of much of it's wealth Germany's recovery would have hit another snag via national debt related inflation much like the WWI reparations forced Germany into hyper inflation.
  • jmpeagle, on 05/16/2008, -20/+23he wasn't a Nazi. Most people even in Germany weren't Nazis. You had to be a member of the political party. Even if you wanted to be a Nazi, you couldn't just become one by saying you were. It was considered an honor back then. The fact that Prescott was American pretty much ruled out any chance of his being allowed to be a Nazi.

    Also, since when should we be condemmed by the sins of our grandparents? What do they have to do with us? Most people here probably have at least one great grandfather that was a huge racist given the times back then.
    • kingmanic, on 05/16/2008, -4/+10More accurately he was a Nazi sympathizer who also did a little banking for them and profiteered off of them. He also like their ideology and wanted to over throw FDR to implement it in the US.
    • anubis2night, on 05/16/2008, -3/+5Your right to be fair his involvement with the Nazi's doesn't go to prove his ideological leanings, it does give us a hint though, as well as prove that he was a war profiteer. Which many might think is worse than a Nazi, after all at least the Nazi's believed in something for all we know Prescott was a nihilist...
      • jmpeagle, on 05/16/2008, -2/+2but what does any of that have to do with George W?
        • amirman, on 05/16/2008, -0/+3Do you think Bush came to be the president because of his merits? LOL
  • Hetman, on 05/16/2008, -14/+3Im guessing this story is going to be on the front page about a thousand more times. And I do not have a problem with the story except it is the same exacty story. Not even a different take on the situation. It is still on the top 10 list. Why do you not just digg that story and bury this one?
    • ZeRux, on 05/16/2008, -0/+2Because I've buried both stories as worthless propaganda, and I'm not a Bush supporter (not that it matters to digg far-left "Chavez is cool" brigade)
  • Lyph5, on 05/16/2008, -16/+9This has been front paged. Twice. We've already had a story about Hitlery ***** saying how awful it was for Bush to say it.

    Lets move on, folks.
  • bclinton, on 05/16/2008, -15/+7Uh.....who cares fck tard!
  • alphaswift, on 05/16/2008, -13/+8As much as I think Bush is a dick, ANY investor in Germany at that time would directly or indirectly have benefited from slave labour. If you're really against Nazi's and their descendants, you'd have to boycott most major European companies, like Volkswagen.

    GW is a big enough douche bag without having to pile on the sins of the fathers.
  • evo8ftw, on 05/16/2008, -24/+17Are you Obama supporters trying to get the home page filled with the exact same story ? Give this up! Whats the problem you finally realized McCain is going to destroy Obama in the general election so now that you've gotten a 1/6" you are trying to take a marathon? Please give it up. Move to Canada or some crap.
    • amirman, on 05/16/2008, -1/+4are you kidding? McCain is a joke.
      • evo8ftw, on 05/16/2008, -3/+1At least McCain isn't a socialist that would piss on the foundation of this nation.
        • amirman, on 05/16/2008, -1/+3helping poor people out of the gutter isn't socialism, it's humanity. and he's pissing on the foundation of this country by supporting an illegal war that distracted us from catching Osama and shutting down the Taliban.
        • evo8ftw, on 05/16/2008, -2/+1you are clueless. Obama wants to go after CEO's that make more in 10 mins then the average worker makes in a year, thats socialism.

          FYI you are right helping poor people is humanity unless the government is forcing someone to do it then it's socialism thats not opinion thats fact. Socialism is communism anyway you try to slice it. Thats all the further you need to look into Obama and his vast treasure chest of hope(lies). In all honestly you have to be severely ignorant to support Obama. You people disgust me the fact that you support him shows how uneducated and how little you care for yourself and the people of this nation which is ***** ironic.
  • indiansfred, on 05/16/2008, -12/+18And you most certainly have relatives that fought for the Axis as well. Or owned slaves. Or killed someone. Or committed some other serious crime or embarassing act. We all do. People in glass houses shouldn't throw rocks. That applies to Mr. Bush. That applies to you all as well.
    • shig, on 05/16/2008, -3/+2I'm not proud of it, in fact, I denounce slavery and Nazis in all forms. I can't say the same for W.
    • Midtowner, on 05/16/2008, -3/+6W is pro-Nazi???

      I'm no fan of his politics, but that's an absurd comment.
  • hydroplane, on 05/16/2008, -11/+2Bushes!, I hate these guys.
  • tlenker, on 05/16/2008, -23/+32He was referring to Carter, not Obama.

    Oh, and he was correct with what he said. The reaction from the liberals tells me he was right.

    I don't care where his grandparents are from.
    • bjornski, on 05/16/2008, -8/+6You mean the guy who got a Nobel Peace prize for his work in the Middle East?

      Yeah, *****. What was he thinking?!?!

      Talks? Who needs talks? As Reagan showed Carter. The best way to get things done with Iran is GIVE THEM WEAPONS!

      And if you don't care who Fuhrer George's grandparents were, even though their mentality shaped the mentality of their family MUCH more than sitting in a pew for 20 years did.

      /and your comment history is a SCREAM! I've heard of absolutely bat-***** crazy paranoid Republicans before, but holy *****, dude. You take the cake. Ever thought about writing for Fox?
      • frgough, on 05/16/2008, -3/+2Unlike you, who simply rants and raves, I actually was at a Reagan speech where he was asked that very question afterwards.

        His answer: There were no good guys in that war. We didn't want either side to win, really, so we picked what we thought, at the time, was the lesser evil that looked like it also was the one losing.

        In other words, unlike you, Reagan was an adult who understood that the world is a messy, ugly place and sometimes you just have to hold your nose and deal with what's there.
        • amirman, on 05/16/2008, -0/+2reagan was an adult who understood something? that's a good one.
      • mmmmmbiscuits, on 05/16/2008, -3/+5What the hell does a Nobel Prize have to do with ANYTHING? Yassir Arafat the left's favorite terrorist scumbag got one, too. Are you ready to suck off his memory too? (he would probably have liked that, of course)
      • PolishLogic, on 05/16/2008, -4/+3Gore won a Nobel too.....it ain't what it used to be.

        Ol' Jimmy sure knew how to completely ***** things up when he was in office (from the economy, to unemployment, to hostage rescue). I guess if enough time passes people will forget just how badly one failed as a president.

        As for the weapons argument, are you referring to the weapons that had been outdated for 20-some years that were just sitting in stockpiles and relatively worthless (or barely working)? We weren't exactly selling the Iranians stealth fighters. Although from seeing all the fury over 40 year-old civilian helicopters winding up in drug cartel hands thanks to a third party vendor buying them from Israel, I can't say I'm surprised at the outrage over Iran-Contra.
    • frgough, on 05/16/2008, -6/+6But it is interesting how Obama automatically assumed it was directed at him. That's very telling.
      • apetrie, on 05/16/2008, -1/+2Oh how could he possibly have come to that conclusion? Hmm gee lets think about it. Could it because he has made high profile comments lately about being willing to talk with the U.S. enemies? I wonder. Oh no no, I'm sure you're right and its just that hes paranoid. Oh wait no, you're full of *****. Nice try though.
      • amirman, on 05/16/2008, -0/+3All of Bush's aides at the speech told the press he was referring to Obama.
  • TinternAbbot, on 05/16/2008, -13/+7I'm sure most of the current socialists/leftists in America would have likewise supported the Nazis, at least before the holocaust.
  • howyoudosir, on 05/16/2008, -15/+10The submitter of this article has no life.
  • soot, on 05/16/2008, -13/+9If only that pretzel had done its job.
  • adventflux, on 05/16/2008, -14/+9Who cares?
  • wildone71, on 05/16/2008, -13/+4I am so disturbed by his speech. I mean, when he called Obama out as a Nazi sympathizer. I mean he practically accused Obama of being a slave owner too. I mean the the whole speech was about Obama and how he would invite Achmadenijad to live in the Lincoln bedroom too. I mean Obama is going to make the world such a better place to live. I heard he even is going to put soda in all the drinking fountains around the world. It's all about Obama... neocons... ugh climate change... ugh Hillary bad... ugh Change... ugh... Hope... sorry i have to wipe off now.

    Digga please... lol
  • Dignan666, on 05/16/2008, -19/+25If this article is correct, Bush is going to have a very difficult time getting elected for a second term.

    "The most tantalising part of the story remains shrouded in mystery: the connection, if any, between Prescott Bush, Thyssen, Consolidated Silesian Steel Company (CSSC) and Auschwitz."

    There's the key part right there. Two words, 'if any'.

    Prescott Bush was a good guy. Fiscal conservative, social moderate, hell he worked with Planned Parenthood and the United Negro College Fund. If you hate the grandson, hate the grandson. But don't bring up BS to attack the whole Bush family.
    • p0s3r, on 05/16/2008, -3/+7You do realize that Bush is currently serving his 2nd term and that he's not running for a 3rd? Right?
      • Vanhalenite, on 05/16/2008, -3/+2McCain?
      • Dignan666, on 05/16/2008, -1/+10Yes. I was making a jab at the fact that this article is 4 years old.
        • PolishLogic, on 05/16/2008, -0/+6and it got a huge laugh out of me...thanks
  • SuperVepr308, on 05/16/2008, -19/+34If you took a Bayer aspirin today or drive a VW, you have supported someone that might be related to someone that was a Nazi. Grow up folks.
    • onionlayer, on 05/16/2008, -1/+3I hate to link to a cracked article but i feel this is appropriate
      http://www.cracked.com/article_15767_third-reich-f ...
    • roflbrothel, on 05/17/2008, -1/+2While the title is misleading, buying something from company who just happened to be German during WWII (what are they going to say? "Er, uhm, no nazi storm troopers, we don't care of you slaughter us, we won't make anything for you.") and treasonously funding the nazis (a country we were AT WAR WITH at the time) are entirely different things. Grow up dude.
      • supermanred, on 05/17/2008, -1/+2The assests were even seized under the TRADING WITH THE ENEMY ACT. Seeing as he was an American ***** and not a German *****.

        The German ***** at the time (like Volkswagen and Bayer) were AIDING THE HOME COUNTRY and not TRADING WITH THE ENEMY as Prescott Bush was.
  • casuallyevil, on 05/16/2008, -10/+16"Bush, Grandson of Nazi"? That's a pretty inappropriate smear-job, don't you think?

    ...And he never mentioned Obama. It's a position many politicians hold, and he was very clearly attacking the position of appeasement rather than the individuals who hold that position. That's what intellectual debate is about, you know, attacking ideas, not the people that hold them. Just because it's George Bush doesn't mean you can apply a double-standard and get *ad hominem* about it.
    • kingmanic, on 05/16/2008, -5/+5He was clearly singling out anyone who would enter into talks with Iran as a 'Nazi appeaser' indirectly referencing Obama's campaign platform to 'open dialog' with Iran.
    • anubis2night, on 05/16/2008, -1/+3If anything I guess we should just paint his grandfather as an appeaser and be done with it right?
    • roflbrothel, on 05/17/2008, -0/+3Prescott Bush wasn't a nazi, he was just a nazi supporter.

      Nothing wrong with that, right?
      • supermanred, on 05/17/2008, -0/+2It isn't George W's fault, but he does seem to try to make up for it. Every time I see your president he is on his knees sucking an Israeli Prime Minister's ***** while handing him billions of your American hard earned dollars.
  • quarkie, on 05/16/2008, -13/+20Calling Prescot Bush a Nazi is sensationalist and Bush never actually mentions Obama by name. I thought it was pretty clear that he was talking about Carter.
    Inaccurate to the nth degree.
  • Yoweigh, on 05/16/2008, -3/+9Did no one notice that this article is FOUR YEARS old??? He was reelected after this came out! If anything was going to come of this, it would have happened a long time ago.
  • p0s3r, on 05/16/2008, -8/+14Where does Bush compare Obama to Nazi Appeasement? Where does Bush say Obama anywhere? Whats wrong with pointing out the historical failures of appeasement in general?
    • brstilson, on 05/16/2008, -4/+3Because anyone who doesn't think he's talking about the election and the democrats is burying his head in the sand.
      • p0s3r, on 05/16/2008, -1/+5Bush also stated that people who believe that if the US just cuts ties with Israel, that everything will be fine. Since no Democrat has ever said that, how can you infer that he's talking about Democrats?
    • anubis2night, on 05/16/2008, -3/+2There's nothing wrong with it if Bush got the concept of Appeasing right which he didn't. The idea of talking with an opposing political party is not Appeasing, which by it's definition means:the policy of granting concessions to potential enemies to maintain peace. Which is to say that by allowing enough concessions to empower the other party not to need to negotiate. What this article goes on to show is that while his grandfather had dealings much the same as George W. was trying to reticule. It would be different if say he spoke up about this past and used it show the the damage that could happen. But to instead use a similar event that's well known to cast doubt and infer that this is the same as candidate who propose dialog with would be enemies then you find where he was wrong. If you don't see the wrongness of that then I hope you at least see the irony. If however you see neither than I fear Bush's time in office has had a lasting effect on you.
      • p0s3r, on 05/16/2008, -2/+4He never mentioned any candidates. He was talking about appeasement and how appeasement fails. Obama claimed he was talking about him.
    • SoulDrift404, on 05/17/2008, -2/+2Nice GOP talking point. Of course they want to suggest it wasn't Obama they were talking about, making him look defensive.

      Predictable.
  • theoristbj, on 05/16/2008, -12/+8Kumar Patel: That's so hypocritical!
    George W. Bush: Oh yeah? Well let me ask you something, Kumar, do you like giving hand jobs?
    Kumar Patel: No sir.
    George W. Bush: Do you like gettin' hand jobs?
    Kumar Patel: *smirks* Hah, yeah.
    George W. Bush: Yeah well, that makes you a *****' hypocriticizer too, so shut the ***** up! Now smoke my weed.
    • roflbrothel, on 05/17/2008, -0/+4This conversation is obviously spurious. George Bush does not smoke drugs...


      ...he puts them up his nose.
  • DeFex, on 05/16/2008, -7/+11And his great great ~~~~~~ great grandfather slaughtered innocent Neanderthals and dragged their women into his cave by their hair!
    • Jan33, on 05/16/2008, -2/+1no - his descendant was the one who planned the whole thing from behind the ***** bushes..
  • taradisiac, on 05/16/2008, -8/+17Oh Mr. Prescott. He was part of an actual conspiracy to overthrow the US government. Look it up
    • LastVisibleDog, on 05/16/2008, -5/+1No he was not. The only mention of Bush was he was the director of a company that MIGHT HAVE BEEN INVOLVED but nothing was proved.

      You are a liar.
      • supermanred, on 05/17/2008, -0/+2His business dealings, which continued until his company's assets were seized in 1942 under the Trading with the Enemy Act, has led more than 60 years later to a civil action for damages being brought in Germany against the Bush family by two former slave labourers at Auschwitz and to a hum of pre-election controversy.

        The evidence has also prompted one former US Nazi war crimes prosecutor to argue that the late senator's action should have been grounds for prosecution for giving aid and comfort to the enemy.

        The debate over Prescott Bush's behaviour has been bubbling under the surface for some time. There has been a steady internet chatter about the "Bush/Nazi" connection, much of it inaccurate and unfair. But the new documents, many of which were only declassified last year, show that even after America had entered the war and when there was already significant information about the Nazis' plans and policies, he worked for and profited from companies closely involved with the very German businesses that financed Hitler's rise to power. It has also been suggested that the money he made from these dealings helped to establish the Bush family fortune and set up its political dynasty.
  • maremv, on 05/16/2008, -1/+3I would believe him, I mean... doesn't the saying go something like you can smell your own kind?
  • ender7074, on 05/16/2008, -5/+10So we should throw our computers out the window? You do remember that IBM supported the Nazi regieme? Oh, and you Volkswagon loving people, all Nazis. If you have a Kodak camera or have ever used Kodak products? Nazi! Drive a Ford or GM vehicle? You Nazi pig!

    Camon guys. Lets have just a moment of rational thought here. I don't like Obama but I'm sure as hell not going to run around calling him a Muslum to be insulting. The sins of the father, whatever they are, are not the sins of the children. Period. Besides, there's pleanty of assholes on the left that have ties to awful orginizations. Robert Byrd anyone? And thats not his father, thats him... The Kennedys... The Clintons...
  • fadetoone, on 05/16/2008, -8/+11"Prescott Bush, was a director and shareholder of companies that profited from their involvement with the financial backers of Nazi Germany"

    I have a bunch of products that were made in China. I guess that means I support communism.
    • LucifersDad, on 05/16/2008, -4/+3We are not at war with China.

      Bush has often said if you fund terrorist you are a terrorist, if you arm terrorist you are terrorist. So if Bush's grandparents armed the Nazis during the war that makes his grandparents Nazis and traitors.
      • PolishLogic, on 05/16/2008, -1/+3When the majority of this occurred we weren't at war with Germany either. Also, as the article states, the actual level of involvement of the ownership, as it appeared on paper, is unknown.

        Furthermore: "The most tantalising part of the story remains shrouded in mystery: the connection, if any, between Prescott Bush, Thyssen, Consolidated Silesian Steel Company (CSSC) and Auschwitz."

        Too bad I can't add emphasis to the words "the connection, if any".
        • Jan33, on 05/16/2008, -0/+3I wouldnt take the guardians word on that - the truth just needs to be peeled back and looked at properly to be understood. Its out there, somewhere, in the dark. ***** knows where. But I can feel it ...

          Like Batman would feel it.
        • PolishLogic, on 05/16/2008, -1/+2@Jan33

          And I wouldn't take anyone's word on it actually being true, unless they offer concrete proof and not just speculation based on who was an owner on paper.
    • sentime, on 05/16/2008, -1/+5as a matter of fact, YOU DO!
    • ZeRux, on 05/16/2008, -0/+2That's what Senator McCarthy would probably said. I don't see the submitter of this story as much different.
    • anubis2night, on 05/16/2008, -2/+1You say that as if there was something wrong with the tenants of communism. Granted that the current form of communism found in China is unsettling but that only goes to prove that with absolute power you have corruption, hence many of the issues we are seeing there. True communism for the people by the people with proper checks and balances has not been seen yet, simply because the current democratic regimes of the last century have given little if any support to the system since it threatens their centralized monopolitical structure. Say what you want about the current forms of communism but please speak to the countries that bastardize the concepts not the ideology itself.
      • PolishLogic, on 05/16/2008, -0/+3Communism is great on paper, but the only way for it to be carried out successfully is to remove greed and lust for power from human DNA.
  • blitzkriegpunk, on 05/16/2008, -20/+13Wow, nice sensationalist title. Go ***** yourself.
  • jontalisman, on 05/16/2008, -9/+3If the shoe fits...even Bush can be right once in a great while.
  • crocheoni, on 05/16/2008, -6/+3booyah! take that morrrrron!
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