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Chris Matthews Stumps Right-Wing Radio Host

thinkprogress.org — You have got to see this one! Kevin James was made to admit he doesn't know what he is talking about and then throws a fit.

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  • livegreenordie, on 05/16/2008, -20/+241 That was great TV! Can't wait to see Oberman tonight Bush is in deep doo-doo!
    • ExitMoose, on 05/16/2008, -4/+29Indeed. How these people continue to be taken seriously is entirely beyond me.
      • happyseamonster, on 05/16/2008, -0/+3...taken seriously by ideologues who believe what they want to believe and by idiot simpletons.
        • Metman, on 05/16/2008, -1/+2Conservatives do not hold a patent on that. While I certainly agree that certain ideologies that continue in current administration, I think a the majority of Americans will be disappointed if they truly believe all the changes that should be taking place with a Democratic leader in office will come to fruition. There was a time in this country with Democrats and Republicans shared common ground on certain issues and argued over schematic. Sadly, we have digressed to a point where there are fundamental idealogical extremes.
    • wildone71, on 05/16/2008, -47/+1More like, I'm hoping that Oberman has done his last show and is fired after last night.
      • mabs0, on 05/16/2008, -0/+14Freedom of the press... so annoying, so over-rated, isn't it?

      • PhilLesh69, on 05/16/2008, -1/+4Ummm, the title of this digg is "Chris Matthews Stumps Right-Wing Radio Host."

        Where did you get Keith Olbermann out of that title?
        • wjackson, on 05/16/2008, -0/+3From the original poster (livegreenordie) in whose comment thread we are all cozily nested.
      • Flyer00, on 05/16/2008, -0/+5Why would he get fired for telling the truth? Oh, I forgot, anyone that questions Bush in not patriotic. My bad.
    • Clouse, on 05/16/2008, -1/+22I watched it live and was thinking about how great it would to have this on digg. Wow what a wish come true.
    • drpcken, on 05/16/2008, -1/+17Kevin James even Talks out of the right side of his mouth.
    • GuacamoleSan, on 05/16/2008, -2/+16I didnt even watch the last second until the 30th rewatch
      after Matthews says "theyre bringing people with blank slates in terms of history"
      James thinks about it for a second, then the lightbulb dings. "EY EY WAIT A MINUTE WHAT DO YOU MEAN MY SLATE"
    • fuhlavaflave, on 05/16/2008, -1/+23That was cringe-worthy, like watching Michael on The Office.
    • theOster, on 05/16/2008, -2/+41"when you're in a hole, stop digging"
    • abben, on 05/16/2008, -5/+5I love Keith Olbermann, but he always has friendly guests, and could never do what Chris Matthews did tonight.
    • FunkyWitDaSysTm, on 05/16/2008, -7/+10if you really think so, you're a fool.

      look, this is a refreshing break in the "discourse" in our media, and matthews was right to do so, but don't think for a minute that matthews was doing anything else using that opportunity to make james look like a fool for anything other than to be right. sure we may agree with him, and it's great that he did that at that moment, but it much more that he was the guy who did the right thing at the right moment for whatever reason.

      what he did was largely nothing at all of any importance. the only reason that momentary and fleeting instance seems of any significance at all is because the media to which we are inescapably exposed is so devoid of any substance or meaning that this coincidental and purely ill-motivated drivel is actually a refreshing change.

      i'd cry for for humanity, but i'm too busy vomiting.
      • cwgannon, on 05/16/2008, -1/+5Oh, geez. Too much Fallout Boy for this one.
      • hellotyler, on 05/16/2008, -0/+1Our government may be well, extremely misguided at this point to put it lightly, but we do live one cushy existence and don't have much to complain about. Most of us aren't starving, homeless, or in a warzone so in my book that's pretty good. Compare our lives to those of people in some places in China, Iraq, or South Korea. So instead of bitching about how terrible it all is, go out and do something to change it.
      • deepseas, on 05/16/2008, -0/+0Funky --
        I have to agree with you. We must not forget Matthew's position in the buildup to the illegal Iraq war and his effusive support of Bush for so long during this horrid period. Now that the tables have turned toward the democrats who will most likely be in power for years to come, Matthews is buttering his bread on the other side. He is now straddling the fence.

        But, I am still grateful he used his expertise to squash James...
    • tyywebb, on 05/16/2008, -1/+6He's an appeaser and he energized and he legitimized and he energized.....*begins to panic*
    • chaosium, on 05/16/2008, -1/+3"Bush is in deep doo-doo!"

      Not any more than he's ever been.
      • tgelston, on 05/16/2008, -1/+4And not like it changes anything. If Obama doesn't win by a landslide I am going to be seriously depressed with this country.
    • Graphixaddict, on 05/16/2008, -0/+5rofl, best part! "HEY CHRIS! CHRIS! WAIT, WHAT DO YOU MEAN BLANK SLATE?!"

      hilarious
  • mabs0, on 05/16/2008, -20/+384That's the return of good journalism, beyond catch-phrases and fear mongering.
    • swrostmore, on 05/16/2008, -26/+7That isn't journalism, it's punditry. Not "good" punditry either, but I'll admit its better than we're used to.
      • Totalchaos02, on 05/16/2008, -2/+9I don't care what you call it but, it was great entertainment for sure.
      • mabs0, on 05/16/2008, -0/+17I guess everyone is entitled to their standards. But it does feel good to finally have screaming ignorance exposed for what it is.
      • Spudster, on 05/16/2008, -0/+1Well this is a political debate show. I'm glad to see that a talking point got so magnificently shot down by journalist for once. If they only they did that with swift boat...
    • itsfullofstars, on 05/16/2008, -0/+28Annoying to hear this windbag (Kevin James-Douchebag) but I'm glad to see someone called him out on his ignorance. Scary how few of those in MSM who have a mind of their own. Disgusting.
      • EarlOfLade, on 05/16/2008, -0/+4It seems like most of them is to be found over at MSNBC.. Matthews, Olberman, Gregory, Shuster...
      • markder, on 05/16/2008, -0/+7I love how the last quote from the second guest is a perfect description of what James was doing. Using loaded words over and over again. He was an appeaser! He was an appeaser!
      • Fordi, on 05/16/2008, -1/+1True enough. The problem here is that James didn't immediately admit ignorance. He just pseudopassionately harped on the line.

        I wouldn't fault him failing to know the history - but I do fault him for intellectual dishonesty.
    • CertifyedGoon, on 05/16/2008, -0/+12Can't wait for the techno-remix of this one. If it's half as good as Bill'O's I'll be pleased.
      • kingmanic, on 05/16/2008, -1/+2I sense a great rap song coming out of this.

        'my point is.. my point is.. my point is....'
      • Mononuclear, on 05/16/2008, -1/+4appeaser.. appeaser.. He was an app.. app. app. apppeaser.
      • cwgannon, on 05/16/2008, -0/+1Ctrl-F, remix, dugg.
    • evilpoptart, on 05/16/2008, -7/+9to be fair calling that good journalism is a bit of a stretch.
      • skyroket, on 05/16/2008, -0/+1I think he was mainly referring to the principle that Matthews HELD HIM TO THE QUESTION until he either got a straight answer or figured out the guy didn't know.
      • evilpoptart, on 05/18/2008, -0/+1it still isnt good.
    • FunkyWitDaSysTm, on 05/16/2008, -13/+4if you really think so, you're a fool.

      look, this is a refreshing break in the "discourse" in our media, and matthews was right to do so, don't think for a minute that matthews was doing anything else using that opportunity to make james look like a fool for anything other than to be right. sure we may agree with him, and it's great that he did that at that moment, but it much more that he was the guy who did the right thing at the right moment for whatever reason.

      what he did was largely nothing in the grand scheme of things. this momentary and fleeting moment only seems of any signifigance at all because substance of any kind as been missing from what media we are as a society exposed to for so long that this coincidental and purely ill-motivated drivel is actually a refreshing change.

      i'd cry for for humanity, but i'm out of tears.
      • FunkyWitDaSysTm, on 05/16/2008, -3/+1damn new comment system. i meant to edit that last but, but cut off. but you know what i mean.
      • mabs0, on 05/16/2008, -2/+4You are going just a little bit too much down the philosophical path there and are reading way too much into my statement.

        In my book, someone doesn't have to have some saintly intentions to do something with end-results that I like. Plus, you can rarely know someone's true intentions.

        I agree with you: the media is deplorable. Can there be better than this? Hell yeah! Should there be better than this? You bet! But you can't expect things to just jump from one extreme to the other over night either.
        • FunkyWitDaSysTm, on 05/16/2008, -3/+1look, no offense, but i can't exactly get excited because you've discovered the concept of opinion. you should get acquainted with the concept of judgement, where your expressed opinions can actually gain meaning through that expression. think before you speak, and something substantial, rather than reactionary, may come out.

          try something more than pointing out the totally obvious facts that are indisputable. form commentary, not a reaction.
        • FunkyWitDaSysTm, on 05/16/2008, -2/+2by the way, if philosophy is the study of the fundamental nature of knowledge, reality, and existence (oxford english, in case you were wondering which dictionary), then what is your response other than a pretentious affront to that very word?

          lemme guess: public school?
        • mabs0, on 05/16/2008, -1/+2I'm not expecting you to get excited because *I* discovered the concept of opinion. I have already expressed an opinion which you have already expressed an opinion on, which should have made it clear we were pretty well acquainted with the concept of opinion.

          Anyway, jumping to conclusions about someone's acquaintance with the concept of judgment is in itself a 'reactionary' stance and borderline personal attack. Both of which defeat the purpose of an intelligent conversation. Learn to tolerate other people's opinions and you might make more friends.
        • FunkyWitDaSysTm, on 05/16/2008, -2/+1and to prove your point, you attack your perception of my position of a personal attack with a personal attack of your own, completely invalidating your own argument?

          sheer genius. hah!
        • mabs0, on 05/16/2008, -1/+2"if philosophy is the study of the fundamental nature of knowledge, reality, and existence (oxford english, in case you were wondering which dictionary), then what is your response other than a pretentious affront to that very word?"

          Wow! I had no idea I had offended a... word! Well, that's certainly not something I will lose sleep over.

          Did you really get offended because I said you got more on the philosophical side? Why would you get offended by that since you hold philosophy to such a great esteem. I certainly didn't mean it as an insult.

          "lemme guess: public school?"

          Do you think smug = smart? A smart person knows when he/she doesn't have enough information to draw a conclusion. Certainly not one that they want to advertise.

          You are off... by an ocean and about half a continent.
        • FunkyWitDaSysTm, on 05/16/2008, -2/+1the first part of your response is drawn from assumtions, so i won't dignify it with commentary, other than, "ha!"

          "Do you think smug = smart? A smart person knows when he/she doesn't have enough information to draw a conclusion. Certainly not one that they want to advertise."

          smug != wrong. and besides, you should take your own advice. those without enough information to draw a conclusion (which you still haven't done, other than speculative assumption which isn't even close to the same thing) has done nothing but advertise your reactionary nature to those things you form the opinion of disliking, skip judgement upon, then react by speaking without thinking.

          oh, and validating everything i've said.
        • cwgannon, on 05/16/2008, -0/+2Not two threads above, FunkyWitDaSysTm makes the same comment he did just a bit above, but ends it with "i'd cry for for humanity, but i'm too busy vomiting," rather than "i'd cry for for humanity, but i'm out of tears."

          So, he wrote some lengthy philosophical diatribe that he can insert to universally reply to whomever he chooses and then personalized said copied and pasted manifesto with some bodily ailment he's suffering of as a result of his despair? Huh?
    • NyteStarNyne, on 05/16/2008, -1/+11I could tell this guy was a republican the moment he started screaming.
    • safari420, on 05/16/2008, -0/+5Do what I did and email Kevin James to tell him what an idiot he is. There is no way this fool should be allowed to have his own radio show. kevin@krla870.com
      • Flyer00, on 05/16/2008, -0/+5Agreed. If you are going to spout off the same ***** as Bush, at least do your homework before you go on national TV yelling like that. I am embarrassed for our country that a moron like that can have a radio show and spew his mindless rhetoric to the listening public.
      • Spudster, on 05/16/2008, -0/+1I'm not sure what's worse, this guy, or as Chris Matthews said, the White House Press Secretary Dana Perino not knowing what the Bay of Pigs was.
    • paigeinphilly, on 05/16/2008, -0/+5That was funny as HELL.

      Neocons are like roaches...when you flash light on them (the truth) they run...but when its dark they come back out to contaminate..

      keep the light on em Chris.

      Obama/ Webb 08
    • mercurio, on 05/16/2008, -0/+7Chris Matthews handled this well. Bill O would have cut the mike from someone as belligerent as this jackass. But Chris just handled him, and let him show what a complete idiot he was.
    • blooandy, on 05/16/2008, -0/+4nice work chris mathews, kept on track and owned him. In england we call that the jeremy paxman approach.
    • withears, on 05/16/2008, -0/+4I'm not a Chris Matthews fan, but good job not letting this dumbass off the hook.
  • thezettabytes, on 05/16/2008, -20/+228Hahaha, Chris Matthews rocks.
    • GuacamoleSan, on 05/16/2008, -1/+8that was truly amazing.
    • dagzine, on 05/16/2008, -8/+11he rocks sometimes but mostly he's just a fan boy.

      search for his ridiculous interview of Tom Delay.

      if you're a politico insider or career politician, say with over 10 or 15 years of service, he'll treat you with kid gloves and throw you softballs.

      if you're an outsider, like wingnut radio hosts, he'll clobber you.

      I watched this today and laughed out loud and cheered him on, but man he can be quite the hypocrite.
      • Nexnecis, on 05/16/2008, -4/+4Kinda sad you're getting digged down ( as of 5/15 9pst ) , because you're 100% correct. Matthews is the most SoftBall interviewer out there nowadays. I loved his insistence on defining appease, but Matthews is 99% of the time a sad hack ( no matter who you root for... he's just a bad interviewer)
    • sa9e, on 05/16/2008, -1/+2I remember when Chris Matthews was a McCain fan.
      • stretch611, on 05/16/2008, -1/+8I remember when I was a McCain fan. That ended when McCain stopped making a stand against torture and started cozying up to the ultra-right wingers in order to get elected.
    • mcquitty, on 05/16/2008, -5/+3Yes, because he caught someone who knows nothing about Chamberlain. But then, just a little later, he claims the USS Cole was attacked on Mr. Bush's watch. Now, didn't that happen in 2000? And wasn't Mr. Mathews' lifetime.

      But I see no one mention it here. Guess Mr. Mathews has some issues with his history, as well.
    • msipes, on 05/16/2008, -6/+2He is a tool. And nobody watches him.
    • Nexnecis, on 05/16/2008, -3/+2He usually doesn't rock ( http://mediamatters.org/action_center/matthews_mon ... ) but damn this still shot him up a few hundred points :)
    • pedo, on 05/16/2008, -2/+5I can't believe I just dugg up a "chris matthews rocks" comment.
    • chillypacman, on 05/16/2008, -1/+3I never would have believed there would ever come the day someone could say that and actually get dugg up.

      But yeah, hell freazing and all that. Amazing how the other interviewer and he maintain their calm, it's like... is this what good journalism is all about?
    • froston, on 05/16/2008, -1/+2Chris Matthews has seemed to come around recently/.
  • moolaismyfriend, on 05/16/2008, -38/+178That right wing Anti-American scum bag was just blowing lies out of his ass. What a disgrace to the men and woman fighting in Iraq.

    He should apologize for being a blow hard who hates history and hates freedom.
    • romistrub, on 05/16/2008, -22/+21"hates history and hates freedom"

      Seriously, this ***** is getting old.
      • moolaismyfriend, on 05/16/2008, -3/+26As old as having right wing blowhards on National TV slandering Democrats?

        Have you forgotten the last 8 years?

        How do you think Bush got re-elected? because of bottom feeding scum like this guy.
        • 0xception, on 05/16/2008, -0/+14agreed... so lets response in kind and act just like those who we despise.

          seriously this isn't an attack at you, rather a reminder to all democrats and republics out there that partisan attacks, such as the likes of the guy on this Tv show or those in direct retaliation to these "blowhards" are unneeded, uncalled for, and unreasonable. (Department of Redundancy Department!)

          It's not very becoming of our party if we choose to take the same road the republicans have taken for so long because we now have a majority. we really should be better then that. and that includes even the innocent comments in these threads... sure you have the right to say what you want, but i just ask you think about it before hand, and try your hardest to refrain from knee jerk reactionary comments. Pay as much attention to partisan politics as it deserves, none.
        • Zombi, on 05/16/2008, -0/+3@0xception

          Excellent point. I'll admit that I have had a hard time avoiding the issue myself. It's just so hard when it's all that is spoken of. Everything is at a divide and we're all supposed to be hating everyone who's not on our side. Thankfully, your comment helped me wake up again. I feel as moderate as I was before this whole primary mess even begun.
        • 0xception, on 05/16/2008, -0/+1Actually it was the comments by moolaismyfriends that reminded me as well...

          It really is hard NOT to be sucked into that game. so the reminder is for myself as much as everyone else.
        • Gerz1219, on 05/16/2008, -0/+6The Republicans have made it pretty clear that they aren't going to stop acting like it's still 2003. This issue proves exactly why McCain is a much weaker general election candidate than most people realize -- he's inextricably tethered to Bush and his failed policies, but more importantly, he's stuck using Bushist tactics because the Republican attack machine hasn't adapted to the times.

          All that Kevin James douche can do is recite the talking points memo he was handed, with no ability to think critically on his feet. John Stewart spent eight years exposing and mocking that strategy. It seems comical and dated. Calling ***** is very much in order.
        • 0xception, on 05/16/2008, -1/+2True... absolutely nothing wrong w/ calling them on their *****, however we should do it in a dignified way. That however doesn't mean being weak in our stance or arguments just doing it in a respectable manner
      • brstilson, on 05/16/2008, -1/+9Yeah, all these right-wingers who are ignorant of history and can't successfully debate with someone without having to out-shout them or cut their mic is getting pretty damn old.
      • theviceroy, on 05/16/2008, -1/+3yeah the neocon ***** is getting pretty old, I agree. :)
      • Spudster, on 05/16/2008, -1/+2No, he means the political dialogue between both sides is getting old. Republicans aren't pure evil scum who hate freedom, and Democrats aren't immoral cash wasting communists. Stop acting high and mighty because trust me, Democrats aren't free to say that their talking points aren't manipulative either, because often times they are just as manipulative (the 100 years in Iraq comment by McCain was twisted by Democrats when in reality he meant a presense similar to that of Korea and Germany). It's time to move past charged talking points and into REAL discussion. That is what I think romistrub meant.
    • kman004, on 05/16/2008, -0/+41What happened to people? When did the war on history, books and and logic start? Why is it the cool thing not to read books anymore? Why is it acceptable not to know history? And why is so hard to sit for a few minutes and be honest about something? "No, I don't know what happened in 1938 in Munich, but please tell me so I know" Is that such a bad thing?

      I'm sorry for all the questions, but I feel sad for not knowing the answers.
      • 0xception, on 05/16/2008, -0/+14You probably know the answers to those rhetorical questions...

        however they're just do depressing to say out loud :(

      • PhilLesh69, on 05/16/2008, -1/+17It became desirable to not know history when we started repeating it. It scares the neocon supporters whenever someone tells them about how their flawlessly superior leaders are repeating many mistakes from history.

        Like, oh, I don't know, getting involved in an occupation of two countries, one of which was the place we chose to fight a proxy war against the soviets, which ultimately led to their collapse, against the very same people we trained to fight our proxy war against a superpower.
      • OralCavity, on 05/16/2008, -5/+3sadly, it was never "cool" to read books or know history.
      • EarlOfLade, on 05/16/2008, -1/+9If you really want to see the sad state of affairs, read fstdt.com and Free Republic.

        Religion and political dogma based upon religion has created an anti-intellectualism that has brought USA to the brink of becoming a third world nation in many areas.
      • stretch611, on 05/16/2008, -0/+7You should not be sad for not knowing all the answers. A willingness to learn and occasionally adjust your viewpoint based on wisdom is a positive thing.

        What is shameful is being ignorant and avoiding the truth.
      • Spudster, on 05/16/2008, -1/+3Just as bad as when the white house secretary didn't even know about the Cuban Missile Crisis. Jesus.
    • subterfuge, on 05/16/2008, -12/+3I don't think he needs to apologize because he was exposed on the air and in such a disgraceful fashion.
    • CobaltBlue, on 05/16/2008, -2/+7I wouldn't have known what he did either, but I wouldn't be spouting off about it on TV or Radio.
    • funkywood, on 05/18/2008, -0/+1Terrorism, exageration of threats and fear mongering are the weapons of the weak who have no real weapons to back them up.

      This guy and Bush when they make BullS**t analogies with WW2/Hitler/Churchill are intellectual terrorists!

      Intellectually weak, no real power behind what they say, ignorant with no concern for other peoples views and yet determined to make themselves heard at the expense of common decency through the twisted use of cheap weapons aimed at peoples fears.

      How's that for an analogy?
  • AtHomeBoy2000, on 05/16/2008, -19/+176This might be worse than the Matthews-Obama supporter video from a while back. Here is why:
    One of the BIGGEST criticisms of Obama supports is they dont know what he has done, or they simply parrot what he says he has done without specifics. This Guy, Kevin James, simply parrots what Bush was saying and had NO facts to back it up and no history background to even know what Bush was speaking about. He simply says what Bush says. When questioned about it, he simply shouts his parroting louder.

    At least the Obama supporter admitted he didnt know. This guy wouldn't give up.
    • audiored, on 05/16/2008, -0/+40The Obama guy admitted he didn't know and didn't keep digging and digging and digging.. He was embarrassed but didn't make himself out to be an total idiot.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jj4VK9wVAi0
    • Mikhail101, on 05/16/2008, -11/+6Omg thank you, somebody with sense. All candidates mention it but dont say how, Obama is no different than Hilary except Hilary and Maccain has a long list of ***** in there history and still keep it rolling. However Obama hasnt done anything stupid yet. i dont wanna Ron Paul troll but hes the only one who states solid plans for big problems in America
      • davidrools, on 05/16/2008, -2/+5Yanno I was curious about what the Paul supporters were referring to when talking about Ron Paul's plan, but he's just as much talk as they make Obama out to be. I couldn't find any specifics in RP's plans. Obama does, in addition to uniting congress to come up with effective solutions, has a specific schedule for troop withdrawal, a detailed health plan, and a multifaceted plan to renew the American economy (specifically, eliminating the bush tax cuts for the rich and big businesses, taxing outsourced manufacturing, and providing tax incentives for domestic manufacturing). His environmental plan is well detailed as well, including government investment in alternative energy sources to reduce foreign oil dependence. Of course, lots of details regarding numbers and implementation plans cannot be planned out to the last detail as a presidential nominee, but with the right guidance will be done by congress.
    • Lukesed, on 05/16/2008, -0/+15I learned what Kevin James doesn't know in my first year of high school. I'm not saying everyone needs to know arcane history footnotes but the people who are put on TV for their political perspective should know a little about the causes of the most momentous events in history.
      • babar77, on 05/16/2008, -0/+3And so should the PotUS, which he obviously doesn't know either.
      • EarlOfLade, on 05/16/2008, -0/+2What Chamberlain did, was quite central to the events leading up to the invasion of Poland. "Peace in our time!" and land division was something we learned in detail in school, both in lower grades (1-9) and in what would be equal to US high school.

        This is so basic history.
      • ErrorS, on 05/16/2008, -0/+3I don't even think it matters that he didn't know it.. what matters is that he tried to use what Chamberlin did in an argument against Obama, that's just rediculous. If Matthews had just randomly asked this guy, I promise noone would care.. but this ***** is comparing him to Chamberlain without know what he did, this guy really did make a complete fool of himself.
    • PhilLesh69, on 05/16/2008, -0/+18The difference is that one is a sycophant, the other is just not well informed, but apparently has some semblance of intellectual honesty.

      This Kevin James guy is obviously very much like Bill O'Reilly, he panders to his audience in order to remain on the air. All he can do is shout the emotionally charged ideological phrases "He's an appeaser, he gave material support, he emboldened, he energized, he legitimized the enemy"

      He knows he can't reason with intelligent people, but all he needs to do is use certain keywords to convince the people who jump for joy when they hear their president say "You are either with us or against us" or "They hate us for our freedoms". He only has to appeal to half-wits and uneducated fools.
      • Cyborg326, on 05/16/2008, -0/+8kinda like Bush & Co. with the whole "War on terror" BS.
      • stretch611, on 05/16/2008, -0/+4So in a sense, what you are saying is that all Kevin James does is appease his audience.

        It would be better if pundits actually had educated conversations with other people, even the ones they do not agree with.
        • PhilLesh69, on 05/16/2008, -0/+1wouldn't that be a better way?? Come one stretch611, make that stretch.

          Continuing polarized ideologies doesn't help anyone. Continuing the mentality of "I am right and you're wrong" only pervades the false and flawed ideology that is slowly destroying this country.

          Sometimes we have to recognize the Republican viewpoint, or the Democratic viewpoint.

          Sometimes compromise serves the nation.

          The last time a nation believed that only the far-right viewpoint mattered, they put people on trains, and 6 million people got gassed.

          Forgive me, stretch, I think you are not arguing against me, but rather agreeing with me. I thought I had to further my point. Hopefully we are in agreement.
        • stretch611, on 05/16/2008, -0/+3PhilLesh69, we are in agreement.

          I find it ironic that he is "appeasing" his audience when we would all be better served by using "diplomacy" with the people he does not agree with.
  • preneel, on 05/16/2008, -8/+182This was awesome. The scary part is that he has listeners in LA who think he knows what he was talking about. Share this with everyone.
    • Bimmel, on 05/16/2008, -10/+2Here is my favorite Chris Matthews video

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGeu_4Ekx-o
      • PhilLesh69, on 05/16/2008, -1/+11What's funny is that you apparently believe that the video you cite somehow cancels out the Neocon whack-job being owned by CM.

        Reasonable, educated and intelligent people see that as only further enhancing the credibility of the video in this digg. Chris Matthews is not taking sides and unfairly attacking the neocons, he is attacking people who lack intellectual honesty.
        • Cyborg326, on 05/16/2008, -0/+3As someone posted farther up, at least this guy admitted he didn't know anything, though he did try to dodge around it. IMO they should have this kind of stuff more often on TV, and not just special shows on at inconvenient hours either, Seeing how people act when put under pressure like that shows a lot about them, for better or worse.
        • Bimmel, on 05/16/2008, -3/+0 " he is attacking people who lack intellectual honesty."
          Like the congressman in the video who backs Obama but doesn't know any of his accomplishments that may qualify him for the highest office in the land.


        • PhilLesh69, on 05/16/2008, -0/+3Good job catching up with us, Bimmel. Yes, like the congressman who backs obama but doesn't know any of his accomplishments. You're sharp.

          I guess you think that by repeating what the original poster of this thread said, and what I then dispelled, somehow it speaks against Obama.

          It is funny how Hillary supporters are just as intellectually dishonest as people who support the neocons.
    • PhilLesh69, on 05/16/2008, -0/+10They think he knows what he is talking about because he says things like "They embolden the enemy" and "They legitimize the enemy" and "They appease the enemy", because the listeners cannot grasp complex concepts, they can only react to emotionally charged ideological banter.

      It is really difficult to explain to a person who barely graduated from high school that Hamas is a government elected by the Palestinian people, which has a faction that reverts to violence when it cannot get its way from the israelis or from other members of their party, and this notwithstanding, as Hamas is the chosen representatvie government of the palestinian people, in order to move forward with peace talks between Israel and Palestine, it is necessary to attempt to include the more moderate leaders of Hamas in negoatiations.

      And it only makes them angry when you remind them that their favorite successful war in Iraq has only improved slightly in recent months by the US Military PAYING former insurgents, GIVING CASH TO GUYS WHO HAVE KILLED AMERICAN SOLDIERS!
  • soot, on 05/16/2008, -10/+64"B-b-but 9/11 was Bill Clinton's fault, watch 'Pathway to 9/11' and you'll see! Obama's foreign policy is dangerous to America, he's an appeaser!" No, Chamberlain was an appeaser because he sold Czech territories to Nazi Germany, not because he talked with Britain's enemies.

    This guy just blew hot air out of his ass the whole interview and had no idea what he was talking about. What an awesome segment, I'm glad Matthews didn't let him off the hook.
  • abby11, on 05/16/2008, -8/+24This was a entertaining day:first McBusch,now this weasel!
  • tcbishop12, on 05/16/2008, -10/+45Xenophobia and irrational paranoia rules the right. It's regrettably a very fearful world the right wing lives in, where even the mention of a possibility of opening a constructive dialogue with foreign adversaries aimed at resolving differences, diffusing tensions, and achieving otherwise mutually acceptable accords is automatically linked - in knee-jerk fashion - to signing of the Munich Agreement in 1938, conceding part of Czechoslovakia to Hitler, and giving up the Irish Free State Royal Navy ports.

    It's another reason I don't listen to AM radio. Most right wing talk show hosts don't have to know any facts, because they control the cut off switch and routinely shout down differences of opinion.
    • bullcutter, on 05/16/2008, -0/+7yeah but who cares about pesky little details like "facts" when you're part of the home team? you want the home team to win don't you?

      no but really, you bring up an excellent point. isn't it funny how (before Hillary's recent move anyway) the only people to bring up Obama's race were conservatives, trying to play into fears that "America isn't ready for a black president.."?? whatever the hell that means... if Obama's race matters to you, you're a racist. that's all there is to it.
      • Nevarius, on 05/16/2008, -0/+6Always found that funny, and sad in a sense. Almost like some of the conservatives that bring that non-issue up are trying to skirt around being racially bias themselves.
    • dynelol, on 05/16/2008, -3/+4Who the ***** DOES listen to AM radio?
      • byrdgang, on 05/16/2008, -0/+5I used to listen to AM radio back when I listened to Limbaugh, Hannity, Glen Beck, Mark Levin, Chris Plante, etc. I don't listen to a single one anymore. Incidentally, I don't listen to AM radio anymore either (now that Chris Core is off and that I am avoiding Limbaugh and his buddies, there's now more reason to listen to AM radio).
  • moolaismyfriend, on 05/16/2008, -12/+99Alright I dugg it even though I submitted this first.

    And I just watched this again and the this coward resorted to the common refuse of anti-American Republicans "b-b-b-but 9/11!"

    What a disgrace to his family and to our nation.
  • kineticworm, on 05/16/2008, -5/+23oh, that kevin james....that guy!
  • PortlandHawk, on 05/16/2008, -5/+341I REALLY HAVE NO IDEA WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT SO I'LL JUST YELL WHEN I SPEAK!

    Signed,
    Kevin James
    • Wargalas, on 05/16/2008, -2/+31I loved that guy in King of Queens.
    • Nevarius, on 05/16/2008, -2/+4For a minute i thought you were referring to that loud guy from 'Dilbert'.
    • Morgonslak, on 05/16/2008, -2/+1"I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE YELLING ABOUT!"

      "LOUD NOICES!"
    • BaudiIROCZ, on 05/16/2008, -0/+3What is so hard about saying "I don't know Chris, tell me."

    • flaknugget, on 05/16/2008, -0/+2This is what political debates in America look like?
    • AmnioticEntity, on 05/16/2008, -0/+1why don't the news stations give chris the ability to mute his guests mic's so that he can talk, rather than yell - it just reminds me of sensational jerry sprigger *****...i hate the yelling - reminds me of my parents when i was a child...which, i guess, is why i can't watch fox news at all. thank you neocon parents for making me all liberal n *****...
    • hoverlover, on 05/16/2008, -0/+0Why is it that people feel like they have to scream over each other to make a point?? It happens a lot in today's politically-motivated interviews and it really annoys me. Why can't people just wait their turn to make their point? Is it because they don't really have a point, and by yelling they drown out the person whom might really have a valid point? I almost can't stand to watch some of these shows when this type of thing goes on. I'm glad Chris Matthews called him out.
  • Gemfinder, on 05/16/2008, -6/+87I love that "deer in the headlights" look on his face. Almost caricature-able.
  • cate508, on 05/16/2008, -4/+23I saw this when it aired....and enjoying it again. All I can say is it got a
    *jaw drop and a huge smile*. We need more of this calling people out for the distortions and/or spouting alot of nothing.....sharing this with everyone I can, of course! Amazing. A clean tie with Chris Wallace putting it to his Fox Friends, for sure....
  • sdigroup, on 05/16/2008, -8/+9i enjoyed that.. lulz
  • cate508, on 05/16/2008, -4/+27Tell Matthews right on-- hardball@msnbc.com
  • ExitMoose, on 05/16/2008, -5/+26Youtube link?
  • mntalkase, on 05/16/2008, -5/+123I saw this live... and it was amazing. My god. Mathew's screwed his day up.
    • EarlOfLade, on 05/16/2008, -0/+11$1 we'll never see Kevin James on Hardball again...
    • AmnioticEntity, on 05/16/2008, -0/+2day/career/me being hopeful.
  • dafoe, on 05/16/2008, -4/+30Lol. Kevin James got his ass handed to him. This is funny as hell
  • Mikhail101, on 05/16/2008, -2/+79Lmao "Legitized, Energized" wow cant even believe they would give this idiot a radio show
    • graphictruth, on 05/17/2008, -0/+1no, no, you don't quite understand BushKo yet. He is the very model of the modern "Useful Idiot."
  • jjsmall, on 05/16/2008, -2/+60That was a beautiful thing to behold
  • swrostmore, on 05/16/2008, -22/+9Great TV? Like Stewart said on the Daily Show last night, "AW HECK! You're both douches!"
    • xtinamo, on 05/16/2008, -0/+6The other douche Stewart highlighted chatting with Matthews was actually Hilary's campaign chairman,Terry McAuliffe, but Kevin James definitely has douche potential.
      • stretch611, on 05/16/2008, -0/+5Douches exist regardless of political parties.
  • Deadpixel1221, on 05/16/2008, -6/+44"WHAT DID HE DO!!"
  • spokenorigami, on 05/16/2008, -4/+49"THAT WAS PATHETIC"

    yes it was Chris, yes it was.
  • rgon, on 05/16/2008, -4/+10The other guy has an annoying voice.
  • Schmapdi, on 05/16/2008, -5/+21They never should have had that idiot on in the first place, he immediately started in with the screaming and ranting. It was good that Matthews cut him off - but really they should try to screen beforehand to make sure the pundits aren't idiots.
    • InfeImmo, on 05/16/2008, -0/+21Then again, it might be a good idea to publicly discredit and/or humiliate these types of pundits in order to show them for what they are - especially when they seem to hold such sway over the public opinion.
    • EarlOfLade, on 05/16/2008, -0/+9Quite the opposite!
      I hope Chris make it into a habit of inviting right wing radio hosts to studio for discussions and then strip them naked like this. The more the merrier!
  • BabushkaBlue, on 05/16/2008, -3/+59This was hilarious! That idiot really didn't know. "He's an APPEASER, Chris!" Hahahahahahahaha.
  • Totalchaos02, on 05/16/2008, -3/+101I suppose Mr. James also believes the great Ronald Reagan is an "appeaser" for meeting Mikhail Gorbachev?
    • Deadpixel1221, on 05/16/2008, -0/+18Or how about that little incident involving the selling of ARMS to Iran for hostages?? If that isn't appeasement I don't know what is...
    • DudeInAustin, on 05/16/2008, -14/+1“If you seek peace, if you seek prosperity for the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe, if you seek liberalization: Come here, to this gate. Mr. Gorbachev, open this gate. Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall.” — Ronald Reagan: Speech at the Berlin Wall, June 12, 1987

      If Obama wants to meet with our enemies to says something similar to what Reagan said to those he called the "Evil Empire", then that is not appeasement. However, I don't think that any of our adversaries has a reason to fear Mr. Obama. Words are wonderful things for reasonable people. The rulers of Iran, North Korea, and a few other totalitarian states are not reasonable people. He will get pwned.
      • mabs0, on 05/16/2008, -0/+9And there are different messages for different people. Obviously the leaders of Iran and North Korea are not Gorbachev and you would not say the same things to them. Whatever the message it is better delivered using words and diplomacy rather than stubborn silence.
        • graphictruth, on 05/17/2008, -0/+2"The art of diplomacy involves saying "nice doggy" while looking for a big rock."

          I forget who said it. But BushKo yells BAD DOGGY while trying to throw his own testicles. Needless to say, this fails to lead to a genuine "mission accomplished."

  • evo8ftw, on 05/16/2008, -5/+15Is it 2009 yet? So wish it was so we could actually get something on here that was a political debate.
    • calantus, on 05/16/2008, -2/+6LOL GOOD LUCK WITH THAT!
    • gandhii, on 05/16/2008, -0/+5Never will happen on TV.. dead media.
    • AmnioticEntity, on 05/16/2008, -0/+1i swear to god, as soon as george gets crowned king and martial law is put into effect i'm joining the military - i just hope that they still offer the sign on bonus.
      • evo8ftw, on 05/16/2008, -2/+2I honestly would rather have another 8 years of W then 1 min of McCain or Obama
  • whygohome10, on 05/16/2008, -3/+27god that is satisfying
  • gsadamb, on 05/16/2008, -5/+125Chris Matthews can be loud and obnoxious sometimes, but the man knows what he's talking about. I haven't seen a smackdown like this in some time.
    • ZenMojo, on 05/16/2008, -0/+13Pretty much just outed the big (not so much) secret of the Republican Party. A bunch of guys who have no idea what the ***** they're talking about pandering to a bunch of voters who can't tell the difference. But if they shout really, really loud then they must seem really, really smart to the locals.
      • graphictruth, on 05/17/2008, -0/+1Memo from Higher Up:

        "Cry Havok and let slip the Dogs of War!."

        Alternately, "tweety," widely reputed to be an even tougher interview than Larry King, just lost it, said "whatever, I can always raise pigs" and ripped the first idiot a new one.

        Ordinarily, it should be called "Softball." But I think he blew a gasket....

  • dan12, on 05/16/2008, -15/+21i loved Kevin on The King Of Queens



    the movie he did with Will Smith though...eh not so much
    • ZenMojo, on 05/16/2008, -2/+1Hitch was money. Dugg down.
    • enntee, on 05/16/2008, -1/+1King of Queens SUCKS, even by sitcom standards.
  • wukillabee, on 05/16/2008, -40/+4the only thing chris matthews has stumped is a large pizza
    • rpieszak, on 05/16/2008, -0/+7What does that mean?
    • Joe_rigby, on 05/16/2008, -0/+9Ok .. my producer terra kates informs me that it's not a pizza, it's a Kevin James. But look at what the zoom did, you can see details in the antenna!
  • sgregory416, on 05/16/2008, -5/+3hah! hes a jedi!
  • JinnRikki, on 05/16/2008, -2/+43This was a well laid trap by Tweety. James was on a week or so ago and I could tell Matthews was fed up with his bluster. I figured he would just drop him and not ask him back, When the segment started today I could tell Tweety had him in his sights and was going to drill him. Great work!
  • flogistan, on 05/16/2008, -15/+1http://www.losergeek.org/~niklas/bobanddoug.com/so ...
    http://www.dougmacaulay.com/kingspud/photos/pdoole ...
    • flogistan, on 05/16/2008, -1/+2I guess I'm the only one old enough to remember the movie strange brew and the context in which that line was delivered in the movie. The need for too much background kills a good joke damn it.
  • 10pins, on 05/16/2008, -2/+42how does he have a radio show?
    • poppacherry, on 05/16/2008, -2/+14how do half of these talk show hosts have shows? oh both sides of the political spectrum, I hear agenda, bias, and ignorance.
    • gandhii, on 05/16/2008, -2/+5Yea.. no kidding. I probably wouldn't be surprised to learn where the money trail goes.
    • byrdgang, on 05/16/2008, -0/+4Huh? This video explains why he has his own neocon radio show: he's dumb enough.
    • Aroundtheworls, on 05/16/2008, -0/+2It's the almighty mute button. If a caller starts making a good point then get him to keep quiet for a second, mute him, and start a long monologue that refutes his points then cut to a commercial or move on to the next segment. This guy has the slick windbag type personality that works well on opinion radio.
    • DukeMojo, on 05/17/2008, -0/+1Same reason Bush has been in office for 8 years: dumb Americans.
  • hartley, on 05/16/2008, -19/+3I love how anyone with opposing political views is now called Anti-American.
    I hated it when the conservatives did it, I hate it now that the liberals do it.
    • Railz, on 05/16/2008, -0/+7We don't say conservatives are Anti-American.
    • dagzine, on 05/16/2008, -0/+5who said the dick is anti american? he's simply a dick. and for a middle class guy like KJ, that's really quite American.

      Speak Louder than the Other Guy and call it debate.

      Conservative TV hosts, say on FOXNews would have turned his mic off. Matthews allowed him to speak and pointed out what an ignorant dick he was.

      I think they call them ditto-heads for a reason.
    • hartley, on 05/16/2008, -0/+1Just look at all of the comments above this one. How many times do you see the conservative called an Anti-American, by digg users?
      • dagzine, on 05/16/2008, -0/+0between you and me--and this is simply a historical fact--conservativism, whether championed by democrats (in the past) or by the republicans, has always been highly Anti-American.

        In the sense that the US Constitution includes all human beings as equals with protected Rights under the law, Conservatives have championed everything from Eugenics to Empire. Conservativism has always been the party for the White Middle Class American--an American who never existed as such.

        Presently, Conservativism is a paternalistic, war-like, theocratic, and heterosexist masculine rhetoric that favors legislating morality and offering as much corporate welfare as possible while ignoring the needs of real laboring and toiling millions across the US.

        So, yes, Conservativism, just between you and me, is a harmful ideological position. And quite possibly justly referred to as Anti-American.
        • PhilLesh69, on 05/17/2008, -0/+1You are actually describing neoconservatism, which only claims to be conservative.

          Trotskyite, Straussian Neocons are really extremist liberals.
  • DuffyDirect, on 05/16/2008, -14/+12Damn, Chris must be putting extra butter on those potatoes
  • zer0ized, on 05/16/2008, -2/+16Saw it on TV and immediately knew I'd be seeing it on Digg later. Hilarious. Can't believe what a jerk that guy is.
  • DrewJJones, on 05/16/2008, -3/+5Tweety owned this prick.
  • icewater, on 05/16/2008, -3/+10That guy couldn't even spell IQ. Excellent.
  • poppacherry, on 05/16/2008, -2/+40Well, I learned something new today: Chamberlain was an appeaser
  • SpinningHead, on 05/16/2008, -2/+50http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YK0d8ENS__c
  • Rmo4, on 05/16/2008, -2/+16What. An. Idiot. It's really depressing that so called "experts" on cable news often don't have a clue about the topics they're discussing. It's one thing to not know about Chamberlain's actions, but to be scheduled to appear on a show, and to go on without even looking up his botched foreign policy, is downright moronic. Kevin James should be ashamed on several levels. At the same time, I gotta question why he was on there in the first place. The guy is an entertainment lawyer who usually spends his day talking about Scott Peterson and the like. I'm sure Matthews could have found a more qualified counterpoint.
    • SamCatLu, on 05/19/2008, -0/+1He could have but that would have made him look as good for his progressive crack kissers - "OMG, Mathews is soooo awesome dude!" "yeah, he like killed that compasionate conservative to death ya'll" - barf! The former Carter staffer picked a baffoon instead of an actuall challenge, big f-in deal.
  • zephyear, on 05/16/2008, -4/+24chris matthews is awesome when he talks to people who have less integrity than he does
    • gandhii, on 05/16/2008, -4/+2Which.. unfortunately.. doesn't happen as much as it use to back in the 90's. Glad to see the change.
  • oldhick, on 05/16/2008, -6/+39Please don't view this as me defending right wing douche bag. I am not. Simply providing some history and context for you and that douche bag on TV. If he's going to call Obama Chamberlain, he best know what he's talking about...

    Chamberlain called his own foreign policy "The general policy of appeasement" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neville_Chamberlain

    Some of his biggest failures
    1 - The first crisis of Chamberlain's tenure was over the annexation of Austria.
    2 - The Munich Agreement, September 30th 1938 engineered by the French and British governments, effectively allowed Adolf Hitler to annex the country's (Czechoslovakia) defensive frontier, leaving its industrial and economic core within a day's reach of the Wehrmacht.
    3 - Hitler seized all of Czechoslovakia in March 1939
    4 - Chamberlain, presided over the final collapse of European affairs, resisted acting on military information, lied to the House of Commons about Nazi military strength, shunted out opposition which, correctly, warned of the need to prepare – and above all, failed to use the months profitably to ready for the oncoming conflict.
    5 - The first eight months of the war are often described as the "Phoney War", for the relative lack of action.
    6 - May 7, Leo Amery – who had been one of Chamberlain's personal friends – delivered a devastating indictment of Chamberlain's conduct of the war. " You have sat too long here for any good you have been doing. Depart, I say, and let us have done with you. In the name of God, go."
    • UncleCrapper, on 05/16/2008, -4/+17There are some historians that give Chamberlain a certain amount of benefit of the doubt and that he knew war was coming but his policy of appeasement bought Britain a critical year to rebuild their forces. Fighter aircraft manufacturing in particular was rapidly and substantially ramped up in the year between Munich and the invasion of Poland.

      Perhaps we shouldn't be too hard on the man. We cannot forget that pacifism was the policy of the day as the memories of the First World War were still fresh in the minds of the public.
      • sa9e, on 05/16/2008, -4/+3No, I think Chamberlain is rightly condemned. Hitler was perfectly clear about his plan, and there was a weak, irrational reticence in the West to deal with it.

        It is easy to see the parallels with "islamofascism".
      • mabs0, on 05/16/2008, -1/+2True, but don't forget that it also bought Hitler some time and the concessions strengthened him military.
      • BN2L, on 05/16/2008, -0/+4He's right neither Britain nor France were militarily or economically prepared for war in September 1938 and certainly were not going to start one over an insignificant peace of Czechoslovakia.
      • markr, on 05/16/2008, -1/+1It wasn't just Chamberlain though, was it? The United States didn't join the war until they were forced into it by the Japanese - Great Britain had not been attacked by the time they did declare war against Germany.
    • xtinamo, on 05/16/2008, -2/+9He also notoriously claimed that it was "peace for our time" after the Munich Agreement in 1938. Sounds like Bush took a cue from Chamberlain when he jumped the gun in proclaiming "Mission Accomplished" a little over 5 years ago.
      • CTRaider, on 05/16/2008, -5/+3If you think an attack on President Bush is an attack on conservatism you have a lot to learn. President Bush is not a conservative.
        • xtinamo, on 05/16/2008, -0/+2Where exactly did I attack or even mention conservatism?
      • oldhick, on 05/16/2008, -0/+2I don't see the parallel there. If anything Bush took a cue from Churchill who had been arguing for preemptive attacks on Germany.
    • lhbaker, on 05/16/2008, -2/+5Dang. I ain't used to LEARNING stuff here on Digg. I just come to shout at people!
    • darkciti2, on 05/16/2008, -3/+3He didn't call Obama Chamberlain, dumbass.

      You Repub's are trying to equate Obama to Chamberlain, when there are CLEARLY no similarities, what so ever.

      Bush said this for no other reason than to provide you Repubs with something to run with. Unfortunately, we're not taking the bait.

      Your party of failure tried the same "guilt by association" ***** with Rev. Wright.
      If you want to talk about "guilt by association" why don't we talk about McCain and his demonstrably corrupt friends:
      Bush, Cheney, Rice, his financiers, his bills (that failed), his hypocrisy and his lies.

      I respect his service to our country, but he lost that credibility with me when he lied.
      • oldhick, on 05/16/2008, -0/+1Uhh... and I quote "James compared Obama to Neville Chamberlain, about whom James could only cry: “He’s an appeaser!”
        So why am I a dumbass? If that's not comparing Obama to Chamberlain than I guess I don't understand the English language.
        Second, did you read my comment when I said I wasn't defending James? More importantly, Obama isn't in a position to even be compared to Chamberlain. He hasn't had to make any executive decisions so chill out and read.
    • rebotfc, on 05/16/2008, -2/+6The thing is Matthews wasn't denying Chamberlain was an appeaser he was showing that there is NO parallel between chamberlain and obama. I.e. Chamberlain made active policy decisions to give territory to Hitler, Obama is merely advocate talking to people we disagree with.

      This kevin guy was an absolute idiot, all he could do was parrot what bush said , he had no knowledge of history or facts.


  • Dzonatas, on 05/16/2008, -1/+10The full interview: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1wSZBTAXRs
  • tcquad, on 05/16/2008, -4/+40After the whole "I don't know what I'm talking about" section, he proceeds to claim Clinton did nothing after a slew of terrorism incidents. Clinton did actually go after Bin Laden during his term, unfortunately some members of Congress thought it was a "Wag the Dog" (remember that?) scenario.

    In particular, one WaPo article noted that:
    "Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) stressed the importance of a strong U.S. role in foreign affairs, and criticized the administration for ignoring problems other than bin Laden, including Iraq..."
    • Nevarius, on 05/16/2008, -0/+10They conveniently forget that Clinton also out spent the previous 2 presidents (combined) in anti-terrorism funding. Hell if i remember correctly he also left bush with the basic outline of 'homeland security' ..which he screwed up.

      Down right pisses me off when politicians play these games. Block the president from going after bin laden, then turn around and blame him for not going after him. Sadly it seems to work, since many don't pay attention.
      • PhilLesh69, on 05/16/2008, -4/+1Not sure if Clinton was "blocked" from going after Bin Laden.

        I read a book by a former CIA agent who worked in the Bin Laden Bureau. In the book, he described a situation where they had located Bin Laden in a compound in Afghanistan, and only needed Clinton's approval to launch a missile strike. Bill was playing golf, and he repeatedly told his communications people, every time they came to him asking if they should approve the missile strike, and he kept turning them away, saying things like "Dammit! I'm playing golf. Leave me alone!"
      • ZenMojo, on 05/16/2008, -1/+1Oh, but he shrank the military so it didn't count that he took the fight to the terrorists.
  • 4321234, on 05/16/2008, -4/+24Meanwhile, back in Iraq, Sadr is getting tired of standing by his agreements with Bush.
    • mabs0, on 05/16/2008, -0/+6LOL! Good point.
    • p0s3r, on 05/16/2008, -4/+7Sadr has surrendered Basra and has now surrendered Sadr City. If he's tired of anything it's surrendering.
      • 4321234, on 05/16/2008, -1/+1Hitler took his lumps too.
        • regression, on 05/16/2008, -0/+2Sadr is not Hitler. Saddam was not Hitler. Ahmadinijead is not Hitler. When the two non-dead guys set up ovens to burn jews and manage to kill ~7000000 (whatever the disputed number is), invade a sovereign nation, and start a world war, let me know...otherwise stop with the ***** Hitler references.
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