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Every Major Penn Paper Backs Obama - Who's out of touch?
huffingtonpost.com — While the national MSM continues flogging the "Obama as out of touch" fabulation, every major Pennsylvania paper endorses him.
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- MindyB, on 04/20/2008, -10/+82I guess the execs of the MSM's need to get out of their gold plated ivory towers once in a while!
Funny how these endorsements also fly in the face of our "great" PA Governor Ed Renell and our "great' Phila Mayor Michael Nutter! Good to know these guys don't own everything here in PA.
Vote for Obama on April 22nd! and America will have the guarantee of a better and brighter future.- jbenson2, on 04/20/2008, -26/+7Major newspapers are all suffering from lack of readers. Could it be due to their incredibly consistent hyper left biases?
Take a look at the other 100 Pennsylvania mayors who are backing Clinton.
http://tinyurl.com/6mz378- yodaj007, on 04/20/2008, -0/+5You're comparing papers to mayors and saying the papers have "hyper left biases"? Perhaps because a) you're comparing apples or oranges, and b) you're presupposing the bias. I say the mayors have hyper right biases and apples and oranges are different kinds of fruit altogether.
Let's not forget that people will stop supporting a newspaper if they disagree with it. Support for a paper is proportional to advertisements sold..... Let me emphasize that ellipsis: .........- jbenson2, on 04/20/2008, -9/+3I guess you have not looked at the circulation numbers of the major newspapers - huger quarterly drops in double digits. You can kiss the newspapers goodbye. Just as you can kiss the O-man goodbye in the general election.
- apetrie, on 04/21/2008, -3/+4Dugg down for ridiculous use of 'hyper left'. Either you're really ignorant or willfully spewing complete crap.
- brycelb, on 04/21/2008, -5/+2Dugg down for willfully ignoring the epidemic that is the "hyper far left" newspaper culture.
- yodaj007, on 04/20/2008, -0/+5You're comparing papers to mayors and saying the papers have "hyper left biases"? Perhaps because a) you're comparing apples or oranges, and b) you're presupposing the bias. I say the mayors have hyper right biases and apples and oranges are different kinds of fruit altogether.
- LukasSmith, on 04/20/2008, -17/+8I dont get it. Is the huffing ton post insulting the people of Pennsylvania by implying because whatever newspapers I've never heard of in the state support Obama they must as well. I know Obama will likely beat Hillary for November race. But I think Pennsylvanians should give the finger to the Huffington post by voting for Hillary. That the Huffington post suggests that people should vote according to what the media says disgusts me. You are trash Huffington post. Nothing more. When Clinton wins in Pennsylvania will Huffington post even bother to note that in an article?
- jebudas, on 04/20/2008, -2/+10LukasSmith:
"That the Huffington post suggests that people should vote according to what the media says disgusts me."
Huffington:
"While Beltway pundits and others in the national press have alleged that Barack Obama is clearly and obviously out of touch with most not-so-bitter Pennsylvanians, leading newspapers in the state, who ought to know better, seem to disagree."
This is local newspapers vs MSM hype, not huffington vs you. - klasikahl, on 04/20/2008, -2/+6The ultimate irony comes from within his own post:
"I think Pennsylvanians should give the finger to the Huffington post by voting for Hillary"
Uh... I'm not even sure how to respond to such sheer idiocy. Voting for Hillary because a weblog asked you to use higher reasoning and you are insulted by the notion that you should actually have to think before choosing a candidate for president. Oh, the horror!
"That the Huffington post suggests that people should vote according to what the media says disgusts me."
So you, in turn, suggest that people should vote not on the merits of the candidates, but to contradict a website? Furthermore, you are telling people to vote according to what YOU say based on the merit of contradicting a puny website.
And, as jebudas pointed out, you are basically responding to Huffington by saying "uh excuse me, but I *like* what the MSM tells me to do. How dare you question their authority! Hillary!" - LukasSmith, on 04/21/2008, -5/+1MSM? please. Whatever Obama is getting he deserves. Time to bring the God back to mortality.
- OralCavity, on 04/21/2008, -0/+1rofl
- Fordi, on 04/21/2008, -0/+1Holy *****. Zero to misinterpreted in three comments. What a moron.
- jebudas, on 04/20/2008, -2/+10LukasSmith:
- SouthsideIrish, on 04/20/2008, -2/+8Guarantee? So, I should come to you when that brighter future doesn't happen. Anyone who gets elected is going to have a rough time, and there is no guarantee that (s)he can get us out of this mess.
- BECoole, on 04/20/2008, -11/+5I'm going to register as democrat and vote Hillary!
- Stevanoski, on 04/20/2008, -3/+3lol, that'll stir up the loonbats.
- Fordi, on 04/21/2008, -0/+1Dude, yeah. What's your point in gaming the system?
- richardpryor, on 04/21/2008, -5/+3Barack Obama/Karl Marx 2008
- mudcamp, on 04/21/2008, -7/+1OBAMA IS JUST ANOTHER PART OF THE EXISTING SYSTEM. HOW DO YOU THINK HE GOT TO BE A SENATOR. HE JUST TALKS A GOOD GAME ! WAKE UP AMERICA !
MUD- scoffey, on 04/21/2008, -0/+4go away please
- dimitrisokolov, on 04/21/2008, -3/+1Running against Obama is a godsend for McCain. Obama will lose in a landslide. Obama's association with left wing nutjobs like Wright will kill him in the general election. That might fly in the ghetto and get him elected, but he will not become president. I realize he's picking up a lot of the white vote, but that is just over 50% of democrats who vote in primaries. I predict a lot of Hillary backers will vote for McCain. McCain is practically a Democrat anyway.
- monroylobo, on 04/21/2008, -0/+1Doubt it.
- Fordi, on 04/21/2008, -0/+1Ahh, here we see the rare and beautiful pessimist.
- digitronix, on 04/21/2008, -0/+1Quit being stupid. This movie explains it all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7-m2Pv8k6s
- jbenson2, on 04/20/2008, -26/+7Major newspapers are all suffering from lack of readers. Could it be due to their incredibly consistent hyper left biases?
- felman87, on 04/20/2008, -36/+20You mean all those repubtards lied to me when they said Obama was out of touch?
- carpespasm, on 04/20/2008, -3/+54Don't call them republitards. Take the high road if you disagree with them.
- theOster, on 04/20/2008, -0/+13anyone that splices "tard" into another word reminds me of an 8th grader
- petrodollar, on 04/20/2008, -2/+1How about if you just use it by itself?
- brycelb, on 04/21/2008, -0/+1You mean like... felman87 is a tard?
- petrodollar, on 04/20/2008, -2/+1How about if you just use it by itself?
- theOster, on 04/20/2008, -0/+13anyone that splices "tard" into another word reminds me of an 8th grader
- elipabst, on 04/20/2008, -3/+329 out of 10 white multimillionaires agree that Obama is an elitist, coincidence?
- Fordi, on 04/21/2008, -0/+19 out of 10 white multimillionaires support the Clintons.
- jbenson2, on 04/20/2008, -25/+3How about the O-man who lied about his recent connections to terrorist bomb-maker Bill Ayers? That lie is going to be worse than Wright and Bittergate combined.
http://tinyurl.com/4wkfaf- SteveIsTheDude, on 04/20/2008, -2/+17Obama was a baby when that guy was a "bomb-maker". It is a non-issue and everybody knows it.
- jbenson2, on 04/20/2008, -8/+4He certainly wasn't a baby when they shared the Board of Directors positions in 2002.
- crweaks23, on 04/21/2008, -1/+3I went to school with a dude who murdered his brother and I lived in the same dorm as a guy who made pipe bombs. Guess what... I didn't "agree" with their decisions. You Anti-Obama people are getting scared... it' s entertaining.
- jbenson2, on 04/21/2008, -2/+1And guess what - you're never going to be President
- Fordi, on 04/21/2008, -0/+2A 'connection' usually involves a little more than sharing a board position with someone. Hell, I LIVED with a paranoid schitzophrenic for two months. I suppose my 'connections' to a paranoid schitzophrenic make me a dangerous person.
Seriously, man, what is it? If you can't find a character flaw you have to invent one?- jbenson2, on 04/21/2008, -3/+1Character flaw - that's putting it mildly!
Senator Obama is a man of no accomplishments, a man of no accomplishments other than getting elected to the United States Senate, and before that, to the Illinois State Senate. He’s done nothing, he has a wafer-thin legislative record, he wrote an autobiography about nothing. So when you have such a man running for president, all you can tell about him are who he has chosen to spend his life with. He’s chosen to spend his life with this kind of yuppy play terrorist who led the Weather Underground, and the neo-segregationist, racist, ranter like Jeremiah Wright. That’s really all we know about Barack Obama, and it’s entirely legitimate to ask him about it.- Fordi, on 04/21/2008, -0/+1"and it’s entirely legitimate to ask him about [his relationship with Rev. Wright]."
Riiight. Because his plans on how to wield presidential power are irrelevant. No bother that he spent about 20 minutes in a speech about Rev. Wright that already answered, in no uncertain terms, most of the questions involving Wright and Obama's stance on racism in America.
As for the Board position with Ayers: you can't convince me that it's a real issue. There were a number of people on that board - we're not investigating their ties with him. It's a red herring, and you're desperate to make more of it than it is.
Seriously, it's like you don't pay attention.
- Fordi, on 04/21/2008, -0/+1"and it’s entirely legitimate to ask him about [his relationship with Rev. Wright]."
- jbenson2, on 04/21/2008, -3/+1Character flaw - that's putting it mildly!
- carpespasm, on 04/20/2008, -3/+54Don't call them republitards. Take the high road if you disagree with them.
- DaDrake, on 04/20/2008, -53/+24Seriously, who the ***** cares what Newspapers think. For peaks sake ....they always pick the most liberal of either party. For example, there is a reason why McCain has received endorsements from the SF sun and Boston G for........12 ...... years (yes 12 .... even the years where he wasn't running lol).
People should vote based on their personal beliefs..... not what some editorial is saying in a dieing industry.- DietMountainDew, on 04/20/2008, -8/+24Pete, "For Pete's Sake"...
- buhbyebot, on 04/20/2008, -25/+7Seriously, who the ***** cares what you think. You're just a ***** Ditto Head.
- diggrnumber1, on 04/20/2008, -0/+11I'm an Obama supporter, and I agree. I don't care what the MSM or some newspaper says. This isn't even a surprise anyway, considering that almost all of the MSM (excluding FoxNews and CNN) support Obama.
- brycelb, on 04/21/2008, -0/+4I was actually wondering something similar. Does FoxNews or CNN or any cable news channel "officially" support any of the candidates? In the same way that papers do?
- OralCavity, on 04/21/2008, -0/+2papers don't "support" a candidate, their editors do. for a paper to say that it "supports" a candidate would be them saying that they are biased, which they would never do. not even FNC claims that they "support" president bush on a channel level. all their shows might support him, but they would claim that their Pundits opinion is not their own - esp since Murdoch is actively supporting HRC
- brycelb, on 04/21/2008, -0/+4I was actually wondering something similar. Does FoxNews or CNN or any cable news channel "officially" support any of the candidates? In the same way that papers do?
- had3l, on 04/20/2008, -9/+20/salutes
Major 'Penn Paper'!- RX9735, on 04/20/2008, -5/+13General Paton once said, "If everyone is thinking the same, someone is not thinking.
- terracottapai, on 04/20/2008, -1/+7I believe he also slapped a soldier for not remembering there were two t's in his name.
- mooseofshadows, on 04/21/2008, -2/+2Most people will never see this comment, but it deserves more diggs.
- RX9735, on 04/21/2008, -1/+1Yeah and he once pounded some smart ass into dust.
- terracottapai, on 04/20/2008, -1/+7I believe he also slapped a soldier for not remembering there were two t's in his name.
- LukasSmith, on 04/20/2008, -4/+8As if any Pennsylvania paper could be called major.
- Fordi, on 04/21/2008, -0/+1Uh, the Inquirer is read nationally. The Daily Pennsylvanian? Not so much.
Really, I don't know why that UPenn rag got in the list; it's not even distributed outside campus - sure, the campus is HUGE, but still; even just Philadelphia's a few orders of magnitude bigger, and a similar ratio applies to Pennsylvania.
- Fordi, on 04/21/2008, -0/+1Uh, the Inquirer is read nationally. The Daily Pennsylvanian? Not so much.
- MorseMoose, on 04/20/2008, -0/+1dugg for How I Met Your Mother reference!
- TheWorm, on 04/21/2008, -0/+1That's how i read it at first too.
- RX9735, on 04/20/2008, -5/+13General Paton once said, "If everyone is thinking the same, someone is not thinking.
- omnithought, on 04/20/2008, -5/+14And here I was thinking "Penn Jillette"
- JimmySpaza, on 04/20/2008, -45/+25Who cares what some washed-up editors at some newspapers think?
Why should anyone look to a newspaper for their political education (indoctrination)?
Do your own thinking...if you can break away from your X-Box or Oprah television show. Yeah, liberals, you know whom I'm talking about.- carpespasm, on 04/20/2008, -5/+17the idea that one should do their own thinking is a very good one, but thinking for yourself doesn't necessarily mean you'll be forced to come to a different conclusion that someone else.
- buhbyebot, on 04/20/2008, -9/+11Jimmy, meet DaDrake. Drake, this is JimmySpaza. You have quite a bit in common. Your both stupid Ditto Heads for one.
- chukd, on 04/20/2008, -1/+5Calling people names really lends a strong support to your side.
- brycelb, on 04/21/2008, -0/+3You sound like a "ditto head" for posting the same comment twice.
- ClockworksNine, on 04/20/2008, -4/+17Heavens forbid you actually read a news source in order to get "educamacated" about what's up with the world and the election. BTW, newspapers is still considered to be very credible, unlike Fox News (even The Onion trumps Fox in terms of truthiness).
- JimmySpaza, on 04/20/2008, -9/+3Nothing wrong with news being educational. I'm talking about changing one's political views and candidates of choice because the newspaper's editor recommends it.
- petrodollar, on 04/20/2008, -7/+4What if one change's one's political views based on something a fat guy on the radio said?
- JimmySpaza, on 04/21/2008, -1/+2Did you change because new information was presented to you? Or did you change because you are loyal to that person or newspaper and whatever they say is good...is good?
- bphicke, on 04/20/2008, -0/+10@petrodollar, then you are equally as stupid.
- petrodollar, on 04/20/2008, -5/+3What if the fat guy is a self-proclaimed torch bearer for the noble cause of "excellence in broadcasting?"
What if he is America's Truth Detector; the Doctor of Democracy; defender of motherhood, protector of fatherhood and an all-around good guy? - bphicke, on 04/20/2008, -1/+4@petrodollar, then you are still letting someone else think for you and thus, equally as dumb.
- brycelb, on 04/21/2008, -0/+4petrodollar, sounds like you have a hard on for Rush to me.
- petrodollar, on 04/20/2008, -5/+3What if the fat guy is a self-proclaimed torch bearer for the noble cause of "excellence in broadcasting?"
- petrodollar, on 04/20/2008, -7/+4What if one change's one's political views based on something a fat guy on the radio said?
- JimmySpaza, on 04/20/2008, -9/+3Nothing wrong with news being educational. I'm talking about changing one's political views and candidates of choice because the newspaper's editor recommends it.
- dinot, on 04/20/2008, -6/+6"Why should anyone look to a newspaper for their political education (indoctrination)?"
Where else would the general public look for it, you ignorant tool.- petrodollar, on 04/20/2008, -5/+5freerepublic.com, of course!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2004384/p ...
- petrodollar, on 04/20/2008, -5/+5freerepublic.com, of course!
- petrodollar, on 04/20/2008, -3/+7Why indeed when we can all just tune in to "JimmySpaza" on Digg?
- Fordi, on 04/21/2008, -1/+1.... oh, Jimmy. I block you, yet morbid curiousity leads me to open up your comment just to see what trash you've spilled this time.
For anyone who hasn't blocked ol' Sir Spaza yet: Both editorials and articles in Newspapers are part of an important set of sources if your goal is to get a pulse of American politics. Also in this set: blogs, comments, and yes, even MSM news shows. They all carry influence, as they all have an audience. The content may be a matter of opinion, but factually, the effect those opnions have is quite quantifiable.
Jimmy, I'm sorry if you feel the need to *continuously* vitriolic, but as long as you're not taking all information into account, you're being willfully ignorant atop it. And, of course, according to the old formula: ignorant + brash = *****.
Think on that for a moment. By 'a moment', I mean, at least - say... - ten times as long as you think before commenting.
I'm terribly sorry if I'm sounding arrogant, but that's rather my intention. No mercy to fools and no sympathy for self-inflicted wounds.
- internetcoward, on 04/20/2008, -21/+10Srsly who cares about what anybody says about anythign ever, everyone is dumb cept me!
/awesomeness- Fordi, on 04/21/2008, -0/+1The degree of apropos sarcasm stated here, regardless of how well it belies parent poster's meme-embittered attitude, is astoundingly underappreciated. Please digg this guy up.
- ScienceDoc, on 04/20/2008, -31/+11I wish the neocon sheeple would go back to reading Rush's website. I guess one of their fascist leaders must have a link to Digg or they never would have found it.
- minox, on 04/20/2008, -3/+10Congrats. You managed to fit "neocon," "sheeple," "fascist," and a mention of Rush Limbaugh in two sentences. Sorry, you didn't win a prize.
- Cerebron, on 04/20/2008, -2/+7It's funny, the fact that democrats and liberals can be fascist is largely ignored.
- sassip, on 04/21/2008, -0/+1Mussolini was asked for the definition of fascism, he replied, "It's when you can't tell the difference between corporations and government." Who's that sound more like?
- Cerebron, on 04/20/2008, -2/+7It's funny, the fact that democrats and liberals can be fascist is largely ignored.
- Fordi, on 04/21/2008, -0/+1You had to have won a contest for that one.
Look, we get that the 'pubs have been screwing things up - particularly Bush and those of like minds - but the name calling, not productive.
- minox, on 04/20/2008, -3/+10Congrats. You managed to fit "neocon," "sheeple," "fascist," and a mention of Rush Limbaugh in two sentences. Sorry, you didn't win a prize.
- dildoolielly, on 04/20/2008, -16/+6Its called "Swift-boating"
- greenmountain, on 04/20/2008, -1/+3It is like that. Both Kerry and the press ignored what the Swift Boat men were saying early in the nomination process,they shuffled him in thinking all was rosy.
The men stayed with their story,calmly told their story until people listened.
The people listened,and decided.
Similarly,the press has been ,up to last week,hands off Barack.
He has not been completely vetted. Nobody knows this guy,
and the Big D is going to bet Everything on him.
An exact replay of the Swift Boat situation.- Fordi, on 04/21/2008, -0/+1I don't get it (I'm being dead serious). Swiftboating is a term used to describe an ad hominem political attack just before a major vote. It applies with Clinton's attacks on Obama's 'bitter' comments. I'm not sure how it applies to the current situation.
- greenmountain, on 04/20/2008, -1/+3It is like that. Both Kerry and the press ignored what the Swift Boat men were saying early in the nomination process,they shuffled him in thinking all was rosy.
- saxreturns, on 04/20/2008, -11/+3Fabulation?
Edit: At first I thought they meant fabrication but it actually is a word! I'm learn-ding today.- SteveIsTheDude, on 04/20/2008, -0/+3Fabulation: the act of inventing or relating false or fantastic tales.
- sl9sl9, on 04/20/2008, -0/+2Sounds like enturbulation, a lulzy Scientology word. Scientology is a fabulation, and Jessica Alba is a fapulation.
- SteveIsTheDude, on 04/20/2008, -0/+3Fabulation: the act of inventing or relating false or fantastic tales.
- futureisours, on 04/20/2008, -19/+42I miss the ol' days where every other article on here was about Ron Paul and freedom.
- twirk8888, on 04/21/2008, -4/+4i hear you too, but it was an unrealistic message. we know that this guy is actually going to be able to accomplish what he promises.
- OriginalLucid1, on 04/21/2008, -2/+3I will bet if he wins he won't pull out of Iraq.
- monroylobo, on 04/21/2008, -2/+1Or your mom!
- OriginalLucid1, on 04/21/2008, -2/+3I will bet if he wins he won't pull out of Iraq.
- twirk8888, on 04/21/2008, -4/+4i hear you too, but it was an unrealistic message. we know that this guy is actually going to be able to accomplish what he promises.
- brokenspatula, on 04/20/2008, -40/+14OH REALLY, I AM VOTING FOR OBAMA BECAUSE THESE NEWSPAPERS THINK I SHOULD
- id000001, on 04/20/2008, -1/+8It just meant newpapers made up their mind, doesn't mean whether they are trying to change your mind.
- Acewrap, on 04/20/2008, -2/+3Good to hear! Glad you've finally came around.
- jbenson2, on 04/20/2008, -7/+4Newspapers don't make up their mind. They just march to the same far left drivel and agenda.
- Fordi, on 04/21/2008, -1/+1Yes. Liberals marching. A lot like cats herding. You guys just don't know who you're talking about.
- Riggs, on 04/20/2008, -1/+1maybe you should type in caps some more to emphasize your point
- techweenie1, on 04/20/2008, -43/+12This place needs to be re-named Obamacanudiggit.com all you ***** who complained about Ron Paul can go screw yourselves.
- cccombobreaker, on 04/20/2008, -4/+1did anyone else read that as Obama Mcnugget....
- SemiSarcastic, on 04/20/2008, -3/+6"Who's out of touch?" - hey, those people can have any opinion they want. No ones getting a bullet in the head in a back alley because someone likes Obama.
- p0s3r, on 04/20/2008, -33/+18My guess is, it's the snobby ***** leftist editorial board of those papers that's out of touch.
- petrodollar, on 04/20/2008, -9/+14Which one of these posters is you? http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2004043/p ...
- sassip, on 04/21/2008, -1/+3Pray for Bush? I thought he had the Bat Phone to God?
- MidgardMurda, on 04/20/2008, -11/+10lul, Poserfag we all know you don't like Obama...stop trolling
- petrodollar, on 04/20/2008, -7/+14Earlier today p0s3r admitted that he lives in Alabama and supports Jeff Sessions, who has openly advocated racist and white supremacist views in his personal AND public capacities. Sessions has been a vocal supporter of the KKK and has worked tirelessly to overturn the Voting Rights Act, which was instrumental in allowing African Americans to vote, and to nominate to the federal bench a judicial nominee who had fought to uphold laws prohibting interracial marriage.
In revealing his deep appreciation for Sessions' work, p0s3r reveals the extent of his own racism and intolerance.
Is it any surprise that he would stoop to spreading vicious lies and fabrications to smear Barack Obama?- p0s3r, on 04/20/2008, -9/+5I guess we'll find out when the Black Panthers(they have a blog on Obama's website), his new Secret Service, arrests me and puts me in a Whitey Camp.
- petrodollar, on 04/20/2008, -2/+7Here's the thing: Obama has never endorsed the views of any of any radical person or group. Unlike you, he has never pointed to a well known racist as a paragon of public virtue.
You on the other hand did not hestitate to stand up and proclaim your love for and allegiance to Jeff Sessions. You were positively brimming with PRIDE when you paraded him as an example of the kind of public figure you admire.
Nor did you stop there! You went so far as to LIE (fantasize?) about being a resident of Alabama, the state Mr. Sessions represents in he U.S. Senate. It wasn't enough for you to merely announce your support for Mr. Sessions, but instead you went so far as to dishonestly claim that he in fact REPRESENTS you! - p0s3r, on 04/20/2008, -7/+4Do you think President Obama will let his political godfather, Bill Ayers, finish the job of bombing the Pentagon that he wishes he could? Do you think President Obama would clear out the Pentagon first, or do you believe he thinks the White People in there deserve it for their part in the systemic oppression of the Black Man?
- petrodollar, on 04/20/2008, -1/+5Those are easy questions:1) No, and 2) neither.
- nblsavage, on 04/21/2008, -2/+4p0s3r, the only camp you're going to wind up in is the G.W.B. Memorial Camp for illiterate morons.
- sassip, on 04/21/2008, -0/+3Are you wearing your super-delux flag-lapel-pin when making those remarks ;-)
- petrodollar, on 04/20/2008, -2/+7Here's the thing: Obama has never endorsed the views of any of any radical person or group. Unlike you, he has never pointed to a well known racist as a paragon of public virtue.
- p0s3r, on 04/20/2008, -9/+5I guess we'll find out when the Black Panthers(they have a blog on Obama's website), his new Secret Service, arrests me and puts me in a Whitey Camp.
- petrodollar, on 04/20/2008, -7/+14Earlier today p0s3r admitted that he lives in Alabama and supports Jeff Sessions, who has openly advocated racist and white supremacist views in his personal AND public capacities. Sessions has been a vocal supporter of the KKK and has worked tirelessly to overturn the Voting Rights Act, which was instrumental in allowing African Americans to vote, and to nominate to the federal bench a judicial nominee who had fought to uphold laws prohibting interracial marriage.
- petrodollar, on 04/20/2008, -9/+14Which one of these posters is you? http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2004043/p ...
- Goldbricker, on 04/20/2008, -7/+1Is the answer the papers?
Didn't bother to RTFA. - FENWAYFREAK, on 04/20/2008, -8/+18Not all major papers endorse him. Piitsburgh Tribune endorses Hilary, as does the University of Penn School Paper. Basically, Western PA is for Hilary, Eastern for Obama.
- badqat, on 04/20/2008, -6/+13You missed this part "every major Pennsylvania paper endorses him". You're not allowed to disagree on any Obama thread on digg, even if you're telling the truth.
- sl9sl9, on 04/20/2008, -1/+8The fact that you are being dugg down appears to confirm this. Sad really, what happened to digging up GOOD, FACTUAL posts that you may not agree with but increase the quality and balance of the comments? FFS I give up.
- badqat, on 04/21/2008, -1/+6I don't know how many times I've heard folks refer to Obama as being pragmatic. He's not, and his supporters are far from being pragmatic. Facts are of little concern, it's all raw emotion, and what they "feel".
Notice how they and Obama claim to be beyond partisanship - they aren't and he isn't. Is Obama suddenly going to be that way when the clouds part and he's coronated king?- jpmoney03, on 04/21/2008, -4/+1Maybe you should research the guy some more. He wrote an entire book about how to make politics less partisan. Not saying he can fix the problem right away, if at all. But he at least wants to find a solution.
- StarlessKnight, on 04/21/2008, -3/+1@badgat: I recommend a smaller brush... the over-generalization of an entire group is just a bit large for any meaningful discussion worth being dugg up.
Fenwayfreak's comment deserves the digg up, your accusation, despite sl9sl9's suggestion otherwise, holds little intrinsic value in the discussion to be dugg up. I wouldn't go so far as to suggest it be dugg down, though, even if it is willfully hostile.
- badqat, on 04/21/2008, -1/+6I don't know how many times I've heard folks refer to Obama as being pragmatic. He's not, and his supporters are far from being pragmatic. Facts are of little concern, it's all raw emotion, and what they "feel".
- sl9sl9, on 04/20/2008, -1/+8The fact that you are being dugg down appears to confirm this. Sad really, what happened to digging up GOOD, FACTUAL posts that you may not agree with but increase the quality and balance of the comments? FFS I give up.
- MacEnvy, on 04/20/2008, -3/+11Nearly every Western PA paper aside from the two you mention have endorsed Obama, just FYI.
- badqat, on 04/20/2008, -1/+7I think the main point was that here are two major PA newspapers that have NOT endorsed Obama, in direct opposition to the headline screaming that "every major PA paper endorses him."
- mbmike, on 04/20/2008, -2/+3Um...Penn is in Philly...that would be Eastern PA...
- FENWAYFREAK, on 04/20/2008, -1/+5That would also be an exception, but don't you think it says something if the ivy league college newspaper, filled with some of the brightest in the country, endorses Hilary? I don't like Hilary, but I cant stand obama either.
- Naxr, on 04/20/2008, -2/+3I go to Penn, and the Penn Democrats endorsed Obama. Popular support for Obama (shown by activism, signs, etc) greatly exceeds that of Hillary as well.
Here's an article in the DP about the much greater support for Obama: http://media.www.dailypennsylvanian.com/media/stor ...
My guess is the DP endorsed Hillary because of the right wingers there.- manogamez, on 04/21/2008, -3/+1You're correct. The editors are somewhat out of touch with the staff here. I've been working there for a year.
- brycelb, on 04/21/2008, -2/+3"activism and signs" do not = popularity. If they did Ron Paul would be the Rep. nominee.
- Naxr, on 04/20/2008, -2/+3I go to Penn, and the Penn Democrats endorsed Obama. Popular support for Obama (shown by activism, signs, etc) greatly exceeds that of Hillary as well.
- FENWAYFREAK, on 04/20/2008, -1/+5That would also be an exception, but don't you think it says something if the ivy league college newspaper, filled with some of the brightest in the country, endorses Hilary? I don't like Hilary, but I cant stand obama either.
- kapsar, on 04/21/2008, -3/+3Pittsburgh Tribune Review is a Conservative newspaper, Endorsing Hillary is like endorsing McCain for them.
- badqat, on 04/21/2008, -3/+2When did McCain become a conservative?
- OccultVariable, on 04/21/2008, -4/+1It seems like Obama has Pittsburgh on lockdown, actually. I don't know any Hilary supporters.
- mezzanoitaliano, on 04/21/2008, -0/+3Do you know anyone over there? Pittsburgh is so far towards Hillary it's not even funny.
- db0255, on 04/21/2008, -2/+1The Pittsburgh Post Gazette endorses Obama....
- badqat, on 04/20/2008, -6/+13You missed this part "every major Pennsylvania paper endorses him". You're not allowed to disagree on any Obama thread on digg, even if you're telling the truth.
- masterm1nd, on 04/20/2008, -19/+16That only means the newspapers are in touch with Obama, not Obama is in touch with Americans... And honestly, an endorsement doesn't change my opinion. And if it did, it would only turn me off of a candidate.
- longchamp, on 04/20/2008, -5/+2You're an idiot.
- brycelb, on 04/21/2008, -0/+4Unlike you?
- StarlessKnight, on 04/21/2008, -1/+3Well you do have to admit they spelled "You're" right while attempting to insult someone.
- brycelb, on 04/21/2008, -0/+4Unlike you?
- barfooz, on 04/21/2008, -1/+4Good for you. Make up your own opinion. That's the intention of democracy anyway.
- longchamp, on 04/20/2008, -5/+2You're an idiot.
- Cattywampus, on 04/20/2008, -11/+23Aren't these newspapers the kind of "mainstream media" that Obama fans are always bashing as being biased, out of touch, irrevelant, corporate stooges, etc.?
I guess when such "MSM" endorse Obama, they suddenly become wise, knowledgeable, relevant, intelligent, etc.!- ralphthemagi, on 04/20/2008, -6/+7Nah, it's just the Huffington Post, which isn't even a blog. It's just a pile of steaming *****. It's almost as bad as The Raw Story.
They don't really have reporters or editors. They just make ***** up, submit to Digg, and rake in the ad dollars. Some might be true, some might be false, but it really doesn't matter—they still get paid.- chukd, on 04/20/2008, -2/+4i couldn't agree with you more. when a site has more advertisements than news, it isn't a source of reliable news.
- barfooz, on 04/21/2008, -0/+1Whoever dugg you down is a moron. Advertisement dollars = control over your paper's message
- chukd, on 04/20/2008, -2/+4i couldn't agree with you more. when a site has more advertisements than news, it isn't a source of reliable news.
- monroylobo, on 04/21/2008, -0/+2Touche...
- ralphthemagi, on 04/20/2008, -6/+7Nah, it's just the Huffington Post, which isn't even a blog. It's just a pile of steaming *****. It's almost as bad as The Raw Story.
- nastronomical, on 04/20/2008, -18/+13The Liberal Media doesnt speak for ALL AMERICANS! So exactly who the hell is out of touch now? Are you on the left so insane that you think all should follow your views and ideals because its popular among the media Elite?
- kolinkoolface2, on 04/20/2008, -6/+4well put. I believe what i want to. Just tell me the news.
- knumbknuts, on 04/20/2008, -3/+8For, we all know newspapers are unbiased and if they aren't, they lean right. RawFL.
- chrissku, on 04/20/2008, -12/+41Pennsylvania please end this silliness on Tuesday. Vote Obama!
- ileftfark, on 04/20/2008, -3/+8or... vote for the candidate you think will do the best job and represent your interests best. unless you think Random Internet Guy can do that for you.
- jpmoney03, on 04/21/2008, -0/+1Actually the silliness he is referring to is a race continuing on in which the winner has already been decided. This would be like insisting on a recount in one state when that state cannot change the end result anyways. Of course that would probably happen anyways because of people like Hillary that just can't accept defeat.
- ileftfark, on 04/20/2008, -3/+8or... vote for the candidate you think will do the best job and represent your interests best. unless you think Random Internet Guy can do that for you.
- nastronomical, on 04/20/2008, -14/+6"Seriously, who the ***** cares what Newspapers think. For peaks sake ....they always pick the most liberal of either party. For example, there is a reason why McCain has received endorsements from the SF sun and Boston G for........12 ...... years (yes 12 .... even the years where he wasn't running lol).
People should vote based on their personal beliefs..... not what some editorial is saying in a dieing industry."
"Who cares what some washed-up editors at some newspapers think?
Why should anyone look to a newspaper for their political education (indoctrination)?
Do your own thinking...if you can break away from your X-Box or Oprah television show. Yeah, liberals, you know whom I'm talking about." - jbenson2, on 04/20/2008, -18/+13And this is supposed to be a surprise? The newspapers are all elitist left-wing snobs in the tank for the O-man.
Instead of looking through the rose colored glasses of the hyper left, why don't we look at political reality. There are 100 Pennsylvania mayors who are supporting Clinton. http://tinyurl.com/6mz378- StarlessKnight, on 04/21/2008, -1/+1"Hyper left," huh? I guess the label "liberal" got old?
- Fordi, on 04/21/2008, -1/+1Oh, I'm sure these political rickrolls (that is, those who post with inflammatory remarks for who they know to be the primary audience of Digg) will figure out an interesting insult one of these days.
Just not today.
- Fordi, on 04/21/2008, -1/+1Oh, I'm sure these political rickrolls (that is, those who post with inflammatory remarks for who they know to be the primary audience of Digg) will figure out an interesting insult one of these days.
- StarlessKnight, on 04/21/2008, -1/+1"Hyper left," huh? I guess the label "liberal" got old?
- JayKeaton, on 04/20/2008, -3/+21Hate the media when it backs Hillary, love the media when it backs Obama? Is this really going to be a fair election with that kind of attitude, how will anyone be able to think for themselves?
- tlm2021, on 04/21/2008, -1/+1No, we hate the media for taking petty ***** out of context and then making it national headlines for weeks on end. A question in the last debate went all the way back to the lapel pin crap. Those aren't issues. That's the media we hate. What this story is trying to say is that even though the NATIONAL media is trying to make this huge deal out of this bitter stuff, the local newspapers are seeing that for the ***** it is and endorsing Obama anyway.
Call me a sheeple, drone, conformist, brainwashed, yadda, yadda, yadda. I don't really care. What it actually comes down to is anyone who doesn't think like you is clearly just controlled by the system. And that's *****. - jpmoney03, on 04/21/2008, -0/+2Most people in this country don't try to think for themselves. Ask around to people to see if they have visited any of the candidates websites and read there stances on the issues. My guess is no.
- Fordi, on 04/21/2008, -1/+1Um... you have no idea how democracy works, do you? Can't even understand this little microcosm. I suppose that if I disagree with the newspapers, I should be all lovey dovey with em. or, moreover, be consistent with my attitude towards a changing media.
- tlm2021, on 04/21/2008, -1/+1No, we hate the media for taking petty ***** out of context and then making it national headlines for weeks on end. A question in the last debate went all the way back to the lapel pin crap. Those aren't issues. That's the media we hate. What this story is trying to say is that even though the NATIONAL media is trying to make this huge deal out of this bitter stuff, the local newspapers are seeing that for the ***** it is and endorsing Obama anyway.
- Tikisam, on 04/20/2008, -21/+16Buried for Obama
- shyboy2008, on 04/20/2008, -5/+16newspapers lost their clout long ago. no one cares
- gavinonymous, on 04/21/2008, -0/+0what? hillary didn't win Texas?
- Jamihabs, on 04/20/2008, -12/+36Is Obama the new Ron Paul of Digg?
- bphicke, on 04/20/2008, -8/+15But with more uneducated fans and less crazies.
- tlm2021, on 04/21/2008, -2/+2I'm sorry, but anyone who would've cast a vote for Ron Paul is clearly either uneducated or short-sited. His policies were clearly harmful in the long term. Eliminate the IRS? There's a reason no candidate runs on that platform. Because if they ever achieve it then everything goes to hell and the people revolt.
When your entire platform is nothing more than being different and destructive, you can't actually hope to ever get anything done.
As I said above, call me a sheeple, drone, conformist, brainwashed, yadda, yadda, yadda. I don't really care. What it actually comes down to is anyone who doesn't think like you is clearly just controlled by the system. And that's *****.
- tlm2021, on 04/21/2008, -2/+2I'm sorry, but anyone who would've cast a vote for Ron Paul is clearly either uneducated or short-sited. His policies were clearly harmful in the long term. Eliminate the IRS? There's a reason no candidate runs on that platform. Because if they ever achieve it then everything goes to hell and the people revolt.
- crowbar77, on 04/20/2008, -2/+10Where have you been the last 2 months?
- petrodollar, on 04/20/2008, -4/+10Ron Paul barely won 5% of the primary vote in his home state.
- brycelb, on 04/21/2008, -0/+8But he won 85% of digg which I think was the point.
- bphicke, on 04/21/2008, -0/+2Plus the way the previous states had gone, he was all but eliminated by the time Texas got to vote. So it isn't really saying much that he didn't have a strong showing there. Its no secret that the vast majority of people are more concerned with voting for who they think will win as opposed to learning the issues and deciding who they think should win.
- tlm2021, on 04/21/2008, -2/+1I did take the time to learn about his platform, and I came out with the conclusion that he was a nut job. But I'm obviously going to get buried because anyone who doesn't want to give Ron Paul a blowjob on here is clearly just wrong. It can't be that there's a difference of opinion on the best way to get things to change or get anything done, it's just that I'm another zombie.
There was a FP article titled "Ron Paul gets 2nd in Nevada" or something close. Doesn't bother to mention he only got like 8% of the vote. Or who the actual winner was. Or who who what on the Democratic side. You know, none of the information that was more relevant, or actually made an impact. And that was just sad.
- tlm2021, on 04/21/2008, -2/+1I did take the time to learn about his platform, and I came out with the conclusion that he was a nut job. But I'm obviously going to get buried because anyone who doesn't want to give Ron Paul a blowjob on here is clearly just wrong. It can't be that there's a difference of opinion on the best way to get things to change or get anything done, it's just that I'm another zombie.
- mezzanoitaliano, on 04/21/2008, -0/+3And 72% in his Congressional primary
- digitronix, on 04/21/2008, -0/+1How about educate yourself instead of being stupid?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7-m2Pv8k6s
- bphicke, on 04/20/2008, -8/+15But with more uneducated fans and less crazies.
- mach32, on 04/20/2008, -15/+9obama fanbois = stooges
better be careful what you wish for.- sassip, on 04/21/2008, -1/+1I thought we had three...
- GrimHeathen, on 04/20/2008, -4/+42News papers shouldn't be backing anyone. They should be bringing us unbiased news.
- sovereign3, on 04/20/2008, -0/+7Historically, papers were never intended to present "unbiased" news (I argue that unbiased news simply doesn't exist). Papers now, as they always have been, mouthpieces for whatever self-interests the editorial board is seeking to placate.
- jdoggxperience, on 04/20/2008, -0/+2"Objectivity is almost a mirage"
-Joan Tucker - JustinCase18, on 04/21/2008, -0/+1Actually he's right. In our early history, newspapers were sounding boards for a political party. The problem is A) The editorial section creeps into the front page, either through opinions or the selection of what news gets printed and what gets buried (if it's printed at all) and B) Many markets have only one paper, which means the other side doesn't get heard.
Currently you have most of your television and newspaper news biased in one direction (based on their own admitted political affiliation and reported donations) and AM talk radio biased in the other.
- jdoggxperience, on 04/20/2008, -0/+2"Objectivity is almost a mirage"
- BrendanSheehan, on 04/20/2008, -4/+1Backing Obama isn't unbiased, it's like saying water is wet.
- brycelb, on 04/21/2008, -1/+1I prefer to think of as saying ***** is stinky
- sovereign3, on 04/20/2008, -0/+7Historically, papers were never intended to present "unbiased" news (I argue that unbiased news simply doesn't exist). Papers now, as they always have been, mouthpieces for whatever self-interests the editorial board is seeking to placate.
- amightywind, on 04/20/2008, -17/+11It is no surprise that the urban leftist elite media would back the most leftist elite candidate.
- StarlessKnight, on 04/21/2008, -1/+4Just because you can use tired labels to paint something unfavorable as being stupid does not, in fact, mean that it is stupid nor represents what those labels are "suppose" to mean.
- Fordi, on 04/21/2008, -1/+3Dude, chill. He doesn't even know what any of the words he said mean. One of these days, I'm just going to troll a right wing site, like Red State, with made up words demonizing the left wing. I'll then check back on Digg a week later to see how many caught. I'll be great fun. Who's with me?
Though, I can understand if no one thinks this is an ethical social experiment - but it'd be a funny ass one if any results come up.
- Fordi, on 04/21/2008, -1/+3Dude, chill. He doesn't even know what any of the words he said mean. One of these days, I'm just going to troll a right wing site, like Red State, with made up words demonizing the left wing. I'll then check back on Digg a week later to see how many caught. I'll be great fun. Who's with me?
- StarlessKnight, on 04/21/2008, -1/+4Just because you can use tired labels to paint something unfavorable as being stupid does not, in fact, mean that it is stupid nor represents what those labels are "suppose" to mean.
- gapingass, on 04/20/2008, -10/+5I'd like Obama to out of touch me nipples.
- MrSlumberjack, on 04/21/2008, -1/+1your comments are *****
- flink405, on 04/20/2008, -2/+9Anybody here even read a newspaper?
- IphtashuFitz, on 04/20/2008, -1/+4Only for the comics.
- jpmoney03, on 04/21/2008, -0/+2Yea before the internet.
- shiftclick, on 04/20/2008, -14/+9Here, try some of our spam! It's full of HOPE and other marketing terms being used to distract you while all of your God given rights are silently removed. Obamista's suck! Buried as SPAM.
- StarlessKnight, on 04/21/2008, -1/+1Sorry, I couldn't hear you over the "FEARFEARFEARFEARFEARFEARFEARFEARFEAR*unnecessary law passed for larger government*FEARFEARFEARFEARFEARFEAR." Could you repeat what you said?
- crowbar77, on 04/20/2008, -0/+7Who cares who the papers support? Besides a lot of them are owned by big corporations with there own agenda.
- sovereign3, on 04/20/2008, -3/+1"their own agenda"
- Fordi, on 04/21/2008, -1/+1Spelling and grammar are urban leftist liberal MSM conspiracies! They're in it with the elitist wingnut neocons and the fascist socialists! And... um... damnit, I can't think of any of the other conspiracy theory epithets. Anyone?
- JustinCase18, on 04/21/2008, -0/+1Actually the corporations are frequently at wits end on controlling their editorial departments. Imagine your embarassment when you lose your number one customer because someone decides to go on a crusade against them. In the newspapers business, Advertising and Editorial are constantly at war with one another (and usually Advertising loses.)
- sovereign3, on 04/20/2008, -3/+1"their own agenda"
- RRJackson, on 04/20/2008, -3/+15The major papers of Pennsylvania *are* the "MSM." You can't say the MSM are "flogging" Obama while they're supporting him.
- StarlessKnight, on 04/21/2008, -0/+2Actually you can, if by MSM you mean a national trend of Media Sources, and by major papers of Pennsylvania you mean the major papers of Pennsylvania that constitute the MSM solely in Pennsylvania. It is not as inherently contradictory as it may first appear.
/Not arguing it's happening, merely stating it is possible.- Fordi, on 04/21/2008, -0/+2He wants you to paint him a Venn Diagram.
- StarlessKnight, on 04/21/2008, -0/+2Actually you can, if by MSM you mean a national trend of Media Sources, and by major papers of Pennsylvania you mean the major papers of Pennsylvania that constitute the MSM solely in Pennsylvania. It is not as inherently contradictory as it may first appear.
- Plantagenet, on 04/20/2008, -4/+8The Obamaniacs are lying when they boast that all the the Pennsylvania Papers endorsing Obama. The Pittsburgh Star-Tribune endorsed Clinton. http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601070&si ... --Here's a link to a national news story about it.
- defska42, on 04/20/2008, -3/+4Count me amongst those who could care less who endorses who. I make up my own mind.
That being said, here is the reason your Tribune-Review (not the Star-Tribune as you quote) is endorsing Clinton (from your article):
"The Tribune-Review said Obama is philosophically similar to Clinton, but a first-term senator from Illinois and former state senator in Illinois isn't qualified to be president."
If THAT is the only thing they can come up with, then I think that their opinion may be even less credible than most MSM.- ileftfark, on 04/20/2008, -0/+4i think thats the point some us are trying to make - what the hell does it matter whom a newspaper endorses?
- Fordi, on 04/21/2008, -1/+1'Obamaniacs'. Hm, that's a new one. I suppose I owe you one in turn.
Lets see... Hmmm.... Nah, sorry. I can't think of anything more creative than 'ignorant'. S'pose I've got better things to do. Anyway, nice meeting you. Talk later!
- defska42, on 04/20/2008, -3/+4Count me amongst those who could care less who endorses who. I make up my own mind.
- RidgeWalker76, on 04/20/2008, -0/+4I think terms describing the media need to be updated. Mainstream Media is not an apt description for the Corporate Media, as they are increasingly out of touch with mainstream Americans.
- brion182, on 04/20/2008, -7/+7Why is it the only comments I find interesting are the ones that have been dugg down, Obama's lemmings are very annoying and narrow minded. Please bury this comment I consider it a badge of honor.
- DEIx15x8, on 04/20/2008, -4/+9There have now been 26,900+ huffingtonpost.com articles on Digg! How much more spam can you people come up with?
- Armakillo, on 04/20/2008, -1/+7I can't even begin to express how sick I am of Huffington Post ... good thing it's not biased like the "MSM"!
- StarlessKnight, on 04/21/2008, -0/+2Is that a rhetorical question?
- ileftfark, on 04/20/2008, -2/+5Wait, now newspapers are relevant again? I'm glad I've kept my Pet Rock all these years... its only a matter of time, my precious.
- jpmoney03, on 04/21/2008, -0/+1I still got my pogs. Gonna make a mint someday.
- Scycon, on 04/20/2008, -3/+10So anyone else sick of seeing 3 huffington post articles everyday? Quite a joke of a source if you ask me.
I come from Minnesota where we have the Star Tribune shoving garbage down our throats, I don't need it on digg too. - ralph12c41, on 04/20/2008, -4/+7Huff Post in the tank for BHO
- Silent_Bob, on 04/20/2008, -4/+6So just because all the papers endorse him ..everyone should vote for him..like robots or something..screw that!!!
- ileftfark, on 04/20/2008, -3/+6Pittsburgh, the second-largest city in PA apparently doesn't count. http://snipurl.com/253av
- xedd, on 04/20/2008, -1/+2"Richard Mellon Scaife (of right wing conspiracy fame) endorsed Clinton in the Pennsylvania Democratic primary. Scaife owns the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, which threw its backing to Clinton today. It cites Clinton’s “political courage” in particular for sitting down with its editorial board."
One man, no matter if he owns a newspaper, does not speak for the entire city of Pittsburgh.
For example, there are other newspapers in Pittsburgh. The Pittsburgh Post Gazette endorses Obama:
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08107/873625-192.st ...
- xedd, on 04/20/2008, -1/+2"Richard Mellon Scaife (of right wing conspiracy fame) endorsed Clinton in the Pennsylvania Democratic primary. Scaife owns the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, which threw its backing to Clinton today. It cites Clinton’s “political courage” in particular for sitting down with its editorial board."
- wright3279, on 04/20/2008, -4/+7Neverending Obama crap.
- MrSlumberjack, on 04/21/2008, -0/+1Even though I know you can only bury a comment once, I still tried to bury yours repeatedly. Just hoping that something sweet would happen.
- HotSaucePanCake, on 04/20/2008, -0/+2The paper controls my thoughts
- JointVenture, on 04/20/2008, -5/+6The Hattingtonpost? Ive never read more hatred spewed in one place.
- TheKrillr, on 04/20/2008, -0/+2You know, I remember a time when news was unbiased. Newspapers ran the raw numbers, and the cold hard facts. And today we have an article on digg saying what newspapers are "backing" obama. Since when did NEWS PAPERS become outlets for political opinion? That is NOT what they are meant to be.
Let's leave the opinion to blogs and tabloids, and get some real news up in the house for a change.- Patchmach, on 04/20/2008, -1/+3Newspapers have editorial sections... that run opinion articles and have had these sections for nearly as long as there have been newspapers. Its the editorial board that really endorses candidates.
- rbsc, on 04/20/2008, -0/+2So when will any of them endorse the common folks in the street?
- manogamez, on 04/21/2008, -1/+1Why is Patchmach being dugg down? He's completely correct. It was our editors who chose to endorse Hillary not us!
- Pherdnut, on 04/21/2008, -0/+1I wouldn't say that the papers were unbiased, but they did take how they covered things more seriously and unless it was a given that they had a conservative or liberal slants with competing counterpoints like the Chicago Tribune and Sun Times, their editorial pages would try to show both sides.
- fizban, on 04/21/2008, -0/+3Are you crazy? Newspapers in the United States have been outlets for political opinion since the founding of the country.
- JustinCase18, on 04/21/2008, -0/+1Benjamin Franklin remembers otherwise.
- Patchmach, on 04/20/2008, -1/+3Newspapers have editorial sections... that run opinion articles and have had these sections for nearly as long as there have been newspapers. Its the editorial board that really endorses candidates.
- IslandDog, on 04/20/2008, -3/+5LOL. The media supporting Obama......how surprising!
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