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- plugman, on 11/21/2007, -19/+61Donate today! Don't wait until December 16th --- that would be much too late!
Go Ron Paul 2008 !- XXXXXXXXXXXXXX, on 11/21/2007, -26/+13Don't tell me what to do.
- EditorResponse, on 11/21/2007, -6/+1Nobody ever replied on what we are going to do in the following scenario so please reply. Thanks.
The following discussion is based on material within: The SAIS Center on Politics and Foreign Relations and the Financial Times hosted “A Traditional Non-Intervention Foreign Policy” featuring keynote speaker Congressman Ron Paul on Tuesday, September 11, 2007.
www.sais-jhu.edu/mp3_player/fall2007/ronpaul091107.htm
Asia; China and North Korea VS. Taiwan and South Korea
Ron Paul wants all the troops home from Japan and Korea as well as to vacate a treaty that we have with the democracy of Taiwan protecting it from communist China. China and Taiwan had a civil war more than 50 years ago and China lost. Since then Taiwan has grown into a major ally and trading partner of the United States of America. China wants Taiwan back in the fold now that China is a superpower. Taiwan refuses claiming that they are a soveriegn nation. China has decided to aim thousands of missiles at Taiwan and plans to attack Taiwan if they pursue becoming a full member of the United Nations or attempt to obtain soveriegnty.
Taiwan is the SECOND greatest producer of RAM for nearly ALL computers globally. South Korea IS NUMBER ONE.
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Taiwan is the second-largest memory chip supplier in the world, with production focused on DRAM and Flash.
With 20 percent of the market, Taiwan is now the world's second largest producer of memory chips, tailing South Korea, which supplies 45 percent of the global requirement. Three industry giants from across three continents hold sway over the rest of the market: Qimonda of Germany, formerly Infineon, which accounts for 15 percent of the overall supply; and Micron of the United States and Elpida of Japan, with 10 percent each.
Taiwan is poised to capture 25 percent market share by 2009, according to the Industrial Technology Research Institute (ITRI). The overall production value of Taiwan-made memory chips is forecast to grow from $6.76 billion in 2006 to $6.96 billion in 2007, according to ITRI.
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In 2005, makers of motherboards from Taiwan account for 86 percent of the global supply of motherboards.
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As many as 60 Taiwan companies manufacture motherboards. Taiwan makers account for eight out of every 10 motherboards produced worldwide. A total of 108 million units were made in 2004. Output is forecast to reach 112 million units in 2005 and 115 million units in 2006.
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If you do not know what RAM or MOTHERBOARDS are let me state that you cannot manufacture a computer, iPod or many other devices without either. If China takes over Taiwan or North Korea takes over South Korea then they will control the global production of these components. Companies like Dell, HP, IBM, and Apple will virtually be out of business until we rebuild the lost infrastructure and that could take years. The U.S.A. will lose a major competitive advantage during that time as the U.S.A. may lose the ability to run businesses, the military, university research, etc.
Certainly we will have go to war to prevent the takeovers. Many hundreds of thousands and possibly millions of Americans will die to regain the losses. China and North Korea remain communist countries. North Korea and the North Vietnamese were supported by China against the United States of America in the Korean and Vietnam wars. We are in a delicate balance at this time and Ron Paul is stating that he wants us to withdraw our support for these countries.
RON PAUL IS DANGEROUS to the foreign policy of the United States of America. IT WOULD TAKE THE _WORLD_ YEARS TO SET UP FACTORIES TO BUILD RAM AND MOTHERBOARDS IN SUFFICIENT QUANTITIES TO REPLACE TAIWAN AND SOUTH KOREA.
The United States of America and all the trade that goes on does so at the PROTECTION of the United States of America. What do you think the satellites, submarines, Navy, Army and Marine Corps do? Along with protecting the people of the United States of America these units protect the trade of the United States of America supply routes for goods including oil. You must understand how the United States got to where it is and who it has alliances with globally and how dangerous RON PAUL is to those alliances. If we pull back all of our support the entire country will be very vulnerable within months.
Lets suppose that Ron Paul wins the election and the United States of America walks away from protecting Taiwan, South Korea and Japan among dozens of other countries. The takeovers of several of these countries would happen in a very short time period, perhaps a few months to a few years depending on the state. RON PAUL in this scenario would be president! He claimed NON INTERVENTION to get the White House!!!! Americans will have to be SENT en masse to retake the countries. Hundreds of thousands of Americans will die retaking what they had been protecting for decades!
Personally I think his policies will destroy the USA.- card51short, on 11/21/2007, -0/+3conspiracy nut
- anachronaut, on 11/21/2007, -0/+1A conspiracy nut who's apparently paid to spam Digg. Either that or he's just plain ***** crazy, has a lot of time on his hands and is spamming us for free. Check out his recent comments on Neaveru (the past few days) -- he's been spamming the same messages over and over and over, ad nauseum:
http://www.neaveru.com/digg/stats/editorresponse/d ...
Scroll down through that mess -- you'll see what I mean.
Just digg him down, block him, and then report the comment for being the spam that it is. He'll eventually get banned as an abusive user (which he is -- he's a spammer).
- anachronaut, on 11/21/2007, -0/+1A conspiracy nut who's apparently paid to spam Digg. Either that or he's just plain ***** crazy, has a lot of time on his hands and is spamming us for free. Check out his recent comments on Neaveru (the past few days) -- he's been spamming the same messages over and over and over, ad nauseum:
- card51short, on 11/21/2007, -0/+3conspiracy nut
- EditorResponse, on 11/21/2007, -1/+0Google "China aims missiles at Taiwan" and you will see many thousands of stories regarding this issue.
- EditorResponse, on 11/21/2007, -6/+1Nobody ever replied on what we are going to do in the following scenario so please reply. Thanks.
- EndersGame, on 11/21/2007, -5/+23Yea, why the hell is everybody trying to stop the tea party? Lets say he rakes in 10 million dollars on December 16th, its going to be hard to spend all that before the primaries and it would be nice if nobody waited and donated asap but for one getting all that money in one day is going to be priceless for RP's campaign efforts. That will buy him much more publicity and he can save a lot of that money instead. Plus in the end he will get more money because everybody is going to excited to be a part of this 'tea party' and are more motivated to donate.
So I AM going to wait and be a part of this Tea Party, and I urge everybody else to do the same....or do whatever feels right. So plugman and dailypaul and everybody else please don't tell us what to do, you do not know whats best.- unloud, on 11/21/2007, -6/+6It may just be me but I don't think that the Fundraising Director would ask for the money now rather than later unless they really needed the money right now. Jonathan Bydlak Sent this message to everyone in their emails:
"November 20, 2007
During the first few days of October, we announced our fundraising goal for the fourth quarter: $12 million raised by December 31.
But there's more: we need to have spent it by then, too.
If we were to raise the entire $12 million in the last week of December, we would meet our fundraising goal for the quarter. But Ron Paul would stand little chance of winning the Republican nomination, because that money would have come in too late.
Time is of the essence. You see, we need to raise money well before we plan to spend it. That's because most of the expenditures that we make need to be paid for weeks in advance. For example, we need to buy crucial airtime for the end of December right now.
The sooner we raise this money, the sooner that we can spread Dr. Paul's message - our message - in the early primary states. Time truly is money.
Fact is, we only have about two weeks to raise money for the early primaries.
If you wait a month from now to donate, your money will only be spent after Iowa caucus-goers and New Hampshire primary voters have made up their minds.
We are rapidly running out of time. The Iowa caucus is just 44 days away. New Hampshire is in 49 days. With so much ground to make up, we can't afford to waste a single day.
As a result, we are spending faster than the rate at which we are raising money. In October alone, we raised $2.8 million, but our campaign spent over $3.1 million.
We cannot afford to wait for bursts of press activity. What we need is sustained attention in the news. What better way to do this than by continuing to raise money at a rapid pace now? We need to keep our momentum going.
Help us win in New Hampshire, Iowa, South Carolina, and Nevada.
Make your most generous contribution as soon as you can: https://www.ronpaul2008.com/donate.
Jonathan Bydlak
Fundraising Director
Ron Paul 2008"
I really doubt Ron Paul's own Fundraising Director would try to sabotage getting money. I think they really NEED the money now. Who are we to act like we know better than the Campaign's own Fundraising Director?- EndersGame, on 11/21/2007, -1/+4I don't think he is trying to sabotage anything, its just that he doesn't deserve much credit for how much money Ron Paul has brought in, we do. Ron Paul wouldn't have as much money as he does now if it weren't for ideas put forth by avid supporters. Furthermore, their original plan for this quarter was $3 mil for October, $4 mil for November, and $5 mil for December. So they planned to bring in around $6 mil at this point and we gave them $8.5 mil, I don't see what is hindering them. Did they not plan appropriately?
I think the Fundraising Director is asking too much, and honestly I think he is making a mistake when he tries to put out a fire like "Tea Party 07" If he successfully does get people to change their mind about the tea party, he will successfully lower Ron Paul's donation amount for this quarter. And think about it, bringing in $10 million in one day will buy much more publicity then the $10 million itself could ever buy. - dracostimpy, on 11/21/2007, -0/+3I tend to agree with Ender. The free publicity they'll earn from raising perhaps as much as $10 million in a single day will far outweigh the publicity they'll get from spending $10 million raised rather uneventfully over the course of a month. In addition, they already have a good chunk of change in their pockets right now, courtesy of the 11/5 money bomb. Ron's team should get busy spending that, right down to the last cent, and trust their supporters to come through for him with a fresh influx of cash on Tea Party day.
Bydlak is being rah-rah aggressive to get as much money as quickly as possible, but he should take a step back and realize that the Ron Paul herd isn't the type to be driven... we prefer to lead ourselves. All he should be doing is putting our ideas to work by setting up websites and sending out emails for the next big money bomb day that we select. For now, though, they just need to cut the purse strings and start raining money on Iowa. You can count on us to refill your coffers, Ron! It's liberty or bust for America in this election, and what good is a fat wallet gonna do any of us if we have no freedom to spend it as we please?
- EndersGame, on 11/21/2007, -1/+4I don't think he is trying to sabotage anything, its just that he doesn't deserve much credit for how much money Ron Paul has brought in, we do. Ron Paul wouldn't have as much money as he does now if it weren't for ideas put forth by avid supporters. Furthermore, their original plan for this quarter was $3 mil for October, $4 mil for November, and $5 mil for December. So they planned to bring in around $6 mil at this point and we gave them $8.5 mil, I don't see what is hindering them. Did they not plan appropriately?
- Araxen, on 11/21/2007, -5/+1Why isn't Ron Paul in favor of impeaching George Bush? Kind of ironic the guy "for protecting the constitution" actually has no interest at all in protecting it against the high crimes and misdemeanors the Bush and Cheney have done to this country and the constitution.
- Chibioz, on 11/21/2007, -1/+4Read Dr. Paul's statement regarding the impeachment vote here:
http://www.ronpaullibrary.org/documents/976.php - card51short, on 11/21/2007, -0/+1god i'm getting sick of us having to own every ron paul hater out there. Every day it's a new, tiny lil thing that they bring up when the other candidates are hiring cocaine dealers and child molesters..
- Chibioz, on 11/21/2007, -1/+4Read Dr. Paul's statement regarding the impeachment vote here:
- unloud, on 11/21/2007, -6/+6It may just be me but I don't think that the Fundraising Director would ask for the money now rather than later unless they really needed the money right now. Jonathan Bydlak Sent this message to everyone in their emails:
- Roryking, on 11/21/2007, -21/+8OR, I'll spend my hard earned money on something that benefits me, and not flush it down the toilet on crackpot candidates with no chance of winning.
- unrealalexk, on 11/21/2007, -4/+12go ahead and do that? not sure why youre telling us .....well digg i wont be buying a car this month and ill probably cancel my cable because theres nothing on it lately, just letting you all know for no reason whatesoever...
- ChromaVita, on 11/21/2007, -3/+5Good call man. I on the other hand will continue to let my mom pay for my cable, and dad pay for my car. Living in the basement is sweet! (I don't really live in my parents basement (only because we don't have basements in Fl... ).)
- unrealalexk, on 11/21/2007, -4/+12go ahead and do that? not sure why youre telling us .....well digg i wont be buying a car this month and ill probably cancel my cable because theres nothing on it lately, just letting you all know for no reason whatesoever...
- themastersb, on 11/21/2007, -1/+3So what's a Dark Horse candidate?
- SlipstreamLucas, on 11/21/2007, -0/+5Note for people new to digg: Diggers really love ron paul, on behalf of the minority that like the guy, but still find it f#cking annoying to get spammed with 10million articles about him everyday, i apologize.
*awaits sad but inevitable diggdown.*
- XXXXXXXXXXXXXX, on 11/21/2007, -26/+13Don't tell me what to do.
- stephbangm, on 11/21/2007, -11/+45Ron Paul will be GQ's man of the year and GOP Nominee next year! But we have to become delegates to get him the GOP nomination; It's actually pretty easy! As delegates, we'll be picking the GOP nominee just like the electors in the electoral college pick the President; Delegates vote to determine and decide who the GOP nominee is---it's that important! http://delegate.notlong.com
- mbelleghem, on 11/21/2007, -5/+17Amazing. Eat that, Blitzen.
- MrPapa1, on 11/21/2007, -2/+27Ron Paul and GQ.... lol...
- scoobydoo84, on 11/21/2007, -2/+6This just made my thanksgiving!! This is going to bring in much needed extra main stream exposure and credibility!! I going out and buying 10 copies of GQ!! All Dr. Paul Supporters please go out and buy at least one copy of GQ!!
- bobtcat, on 11/21/2007, -4/+12GQ's article: http://men.style.com/gq/blogs/gqeditors/2007/11/gq ...
- Smight, on 11/21/2007, -0/+3Looks like they have a pretty nice comment system that encourages triple posting.
- afruff23, on 11/21/2007, -3/+8What comment system?
- afruff23, on 11/21/2007, -0/+17What comment system?
- capiCrimm, on 11/21/2007, -1/+8your other posts sucked, but I felt this one really clicked with me. There's something deep to it, curious yet fleeting.
- card51short, on 11/21/2007, -0/+2yeah it was the second one that really did it for me as well. Dugg up.
- afruff23, on 11/21/2007, -3/+10What comment system?
- Smight, on 11/21/2007, -0/+3Looks like they have a pretty nice comment system that encourages triple posting.
- patriotwarrior, on 11/21/2007, -10/+57Considering that Ron Paul won most of the straw polls and holds the one day record for money contributions I would say that he is the big dog.
- XXXXXXXXXXXXXX, on 11/21/2007, -27/+11Duplicate, you damn spamming bastards. You ran out of third-party publishable content so you decided to re-host it on different blogs?
Ron Paul 2008. Because our audience is the audience that has already read what we have to say. - tubular, on 11/21/2007, -31/+9A Dark horse for a man who hates dark colored people.
"If you have ever been robbed by a black teenaged male, you know how unbelievably fleet-footed they can be." About blacks in Washington, D.C., Paul wrote, "I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal." -Ron Paul- unrealalexk, on 11/21/2007, -5/+17Funny how that's the worst dirt people can dig up on ron paul. not only is it from like the 1970's, but it was written by an assistant....plus i could care less for his personal opinions, it's his policies I support
- carpespasm, on 11/21/2007, -6/+2the black male quote in context reads more like he was saying the criminal justice system in that city is so broken that most all black men could be classified as criminal.
- capiCrimm, on 11/21/2007, -4/+15uh, no. It wasn't him, he's cleared this up many times. In the 70's he let a ghost writer write some stuff under his name, I believe the NY Times backed him on that story(as well as his district since they re-elected him twice in non-incumbent races with this known). Basically the New York Times said that it clashed with everything he does and says in congress.
They also like to bring up that he voted against giving Rosa Parks a medal, but leave out the part that he said it was because he didn't want to use tax payer money. Instead he offered to donate some personal money for the medal and offered the same to other members of Congress. Every member of Congress besides him voted to use tax payer money. Racist, huh?- Dementual, on 01/27/2008, -6/+1He wanted to use his own money to help a black woman?
Definitely racist!
RON PAUL HAET WHITE PEOPLE
(Just keep telling yourselves that, neocons)
- Dementual, on 01/27/2008, -6/+1He wanted to use his own money to help a black woman?
- capiCrimm, on 11/21/2007, -4/+15uh, no. It wasn't him, he's cleared this up many times. In the 70's he let a ghost writer write some stuff under his name, I believe the NY Times backed him on that story(as well as his district since they re-elected him twice in non-incumbent races with this known). Basically the New York Times said that it clashed with everything he does and says in congress.
- card51short, on 11/21/2007, -0/+3i'd like everyone to research this newsletter that Ron Paul supposedly wrote. You'll find out that he didnt' write it at all and the staffer was fired.
Then realize that people are trying to smear his name constantly...and lies is all they can pull out their crusted hats.
Realize why they are doing this... - tao52nyc, on 11/22/2007, -0/+0"If you can't do the time, don't do the crime."
--Alan Keyes, 2000
- 01l0, on 11/21/2007, -26/+6The only candidate against war as an instrument of foreign policy: vote Kucinich in 08
http://www.dennis4president.com- wenjerall, on 11/21/2007, -0/+2You left out "besides the Honorable Ron Paul".
- xsquirrel378x, on 11/21/2007, -9/+24Ron Paul 2008 or GTFO
- 01l0, on 11/21/2007, -4/+16***** OR STFU
- xsquirrel378x, on 11/21/2007, -9/+4NO U
- 01l0, on 11/21/2007, -4/+16***** OR STFU
- JavertHolmes, on 11/21/2007, -2/+6Between that headline/summary, the blog it links to, the video clip from CNN the blog points to, and the GQ story itself, never in my life have I seen such little information/knowledge conveyed via four different places.
- kcap122, on 11/21/2007, -5/+1hahaha in the poll on this page, the vote is split between obama and paul. digg effect 1, internet 0.
- locriology, on 11/21/2007, -5/+15It's good to see Ron Paul stuff still appears every once in a while. I was worried that Obama took over Digg.
- unrealalexk, on 11/21/2007, -3/+2Very shot blog/articles indeed...
December 16th, donate ....my shift key is broken just imagine an exclamation mark after donate...- JavertHolmes, on 11/21/2007, -1/+5I can't donate because I blew my cash on a $2,000 keyboard that has *two* shift keys.
- mickcn, on 11/21/2007, -3/+2Why arn't you using them!?!
- JavertHolmes, on 11/21/2007, -1/+5I can't donate because I blew my cash on a $2,000 keyboard that has *two* shift keys.
- twoblink, on 11/21/2007, -5/+30If Ron Paul is elected, there is hope for the country. If Billiary is elected, it confirms the stupidity of America, and America will go to hell in a wrinkled face and a navy blue skirt.
If Bill wasn't willing to touch it, neither should you...- ivandir, on 11/21/2007, -0/+4A better attack ad would be: "If her husband doesn't want to be with her, why should you?"
- EditorResponse, on 11/21/2007, -7/+0If its between RP and Hillary I will probably vite for Hillary and I have never voted democat in my life.
- card51short, on 11/21/2007, -0/+5you're insane
- pintomp3, on 11/21/2007, -12/+6i keep hearing about how ron paul is the defender of the constitution, but he voted against impeaching those who violated it.
- wenjerall, on 11/21/2007, -1/+9Only because there was no SERIOUS investigation in to the charges before it was put up for a vote. It is because he respects the Constitution so highly that he voted against impeachment, as it is a serious remedy, and should never be taken lightly.
Comment dug down for lack of research and understanding.
- wenjerall, on 11/21/2007, -1/+9Only because there was no SERIOUS investigation in to the charges before it was put up for a vote. It is because he respects the Constitution so highly that he voted against impeachment, as it is a serious remedy, and should never be taken lightly.
- BrewmasterC, on 11/21/2007, -2/+6Um, no. If Ron Paul wins you probably want to **sell** gold on the eve of the election since the dollar will get huge bump in value. I can't figure out why some bankers aren't tearing down the house for him. Yeah they won't get free fed money to lend, but their outstanding loans will be worth a lot more on repayment.
- Dementual, on 01/27/2008, -4/+1Well, even if they wanted to, the lobbyist media wouldn't allow them to say anything. They'll probably be smacked with "Don't say Ron Paul or we'll charge you $1000 a day" charges, too, I bet.
- chaosium, on 11/21/2007, -4/+4"I can't figure out why some bankers aren't tearing down the house for him"
Because his monetary policies are *****.- wenjerall, on 11/21/2007, -2/+2Wow. Now that was an intellectual symposium on monetary policy. Thanks for bringing so much light to the debate.
- EditorResponse, on 11/21/2007, -3/+2Without the FDIC insurance on bank accounts up to $100,000, which RP also said he would get rid of the banks will have NO money to loan out because after the first bank failure people will begin to keep money at home. The restrictions on the money supply will kill the US for sure. Did that help you out? It has happened before. Look at the previous depressions in the 1930s. I know what I am talking about there is proof that this is what will happen. Ron Paul is NO economist. He has eread a few books. That is all.
- chaosium, on 11/21/2007, -1/+1Ask a simple question, get a simple answer.
- wenjerall, on 11/21/2007, -2/+2Wow. Now that was an intellectual symposium on monetary policy. Thanks for bringing so much light to the debate.
- wenjerall, on 11/21/2007, -1/+0As a former employee of one of the 12 GSE banks that deal daily with the FED, the bankers (money changers) make their "money" by being the middle men. They get their wealth from the inflationary practices of the FED before the impact of the inflation hits the little guy.
- jdaniel284, on 11/21/2007, -5/+26I am seeing Ron Paul billboards and spraypainted signs hanging on fences, over overpasses, etc EVERYWHERE. I just got back from Reno and I was seeing Ron Paul signs everywhere. The country is behind him. The elites are not. Ron Paul is going to win this election.
- mickcn, on 11/21/2007, -3/+5or I am going to canada.
- chaosium, on 11/21/2007, -1/+4Stop teasing.
- BohicaTwentyTwo, on 11/21/2007, -3/+4Pack a sweater.
- EditorResponse, on 11/21/2007, -2/+3Eh. Take off eh!
- mickcn, on 11/21/2007, -3/+5or I am going to canada.
- mattsw84, on 11/21/2007, -17/+5Oh look GQ has Ron Tards on staff.
- jeffiek, on 11/21/2007, -3/+12It would be surprising if there weren't. There's a whole COUNTRY full of Ron Paul supporters.
- JMellissa, on 11/21/2007, -2/+28I would vote for Ron Paul in a heartbeat. I like Dennis Kucinich too.
- itsme7g, on 11/21/2007, -2/+8dammit I was trying to dig you up. Buttons are too close
- WTC7WasPulled, on 11/21/2007, -2/+10Ron Paul is the man of the year.
- winterorange, on 11/21/2007, -12/+2You people do realize that if Ron Paul does somehow win this election its as good as a death sentence. He'll be dead within a year. Its the sad truth and you all know it.
- card51short, on 11/21/2007, -0/+4so what do we do? give up? NEVER
- tao52nyc, on 11/22/2007, -0/+2If that day - God forbid - happens, we ALL become "Ron Paul". He has created something which WILL survive him. Because of RP I didn't just get cured of apathy, I am actually thinking of running (as a "Ron Paul Republican") for a House seat currently occupied by a Bush-rollover Democrat in my district.
- Binarydemon, on 11/21/2007, -13/+1Ron Paul is the Ross Perot of 2008. He has no shot at winning, but he will certainly be a headache for the other canidates.
- chaosium, on 11/21/2007, -1/+4I think you mean he'll benefit one candidate and be a headache for the other. I think he'll probably be passively assisted by Obama and attacked non-stop by Giuliani.
- credence, on 11/21/2007, -2/+1Not entirely. He has promised not to run 3rd party, so there should be less of the whole stealing from a party issue.
- EditorResponse, on 11/21/2007, -5/+1He did but I don't take him as a man of his word. He is going to have to change everything he is saying because none of the stuff he proposes will work.
- tao52nyc, on 11/22/2007, -0/+1Bill Clinton polled 4% in 1992 going into NH; Jimmy Carter about 1% in 1976. It's time for another shakeup.
- spawnfree, on 11/21/2007, -8/+1so one guy stands apart from a system that was bought by banking interests a hundred years ago and says he is going to start doing the right thing for the people and he will take the trillion-dollar dummy out of the mouth of America's owners.
If he is genuine, he will be shot.
If he gets in; hes the antichrist. - Roger_Ramjet, on 11/21/2007, -12/+3If Ron Paul was even remotely viable as a candidate, he'd be supported by Republicans and not just liberals who know Hillary could beat him like a bongo drum.
Nice try.- BohicaTwentyTwo, on 11/21/2007, -3/+5Liberals are hoping that Ron Paul will be to the Republicans what Ralph Nader is to them.
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