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Hill Democrats Call McCain's Bluff
huffingtonpost.com — it would not be helpful at this time to have them come back during these negotiations and risk injecting presidential politics into this process or distract important talks about the future of our nation's economy. If that changes, we will call upon them. We need leadership; not a campaign photo op."
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- jsatz23, on 09/24/2008, -7/+131Wow, maybe Democrats do indeed have a spine.
- PhrosTT, on 09/25/2008, -7/+24thank God my boy b-rock called that bitch out. when i saw mccain's ***** move earlier today i hoped so bad obama wouldn't pull a kerry and end up looking like a follower of the republicans.
the old man's getting desperate..... i can't ***** wait to watch him and his wench get smoked in these debates...
altho we may be watching b-rock just chillin alone on stage.- fuze44, on 09/25/2008, -2/+9Right on, brodawg. Right on, yo.
- RealHyperX, on 09/25/2008, -3/+2Word up nigz! Daz how we dooze it in da hood and *****.
- patpl22391, on 09/25/2008, -23/+4Curious, if Obama had done the same thing, would you be criticizing him for it?
- PhrosTT, on 09/25/2008, -3/+17you might be alluding to the fact that b-rock originally brought up the non-partisan sit down...
but no... he wasn't the bitch trying to use a rovian 'damned if you do, damned if you don't' plan to corner his opponent rather than actually involve an issue.
there's a good chance this wall st train wreck costs me my job... and i'm totally cool with that if keeps mccain out of office and america out of the *****. - cjshamrock, on 09/25/2008, -0/+10Yeah, it would be pretty disappointing.
- PhrosTT, on 09/25/2008, -3/+17you might be alluding to the fact that b-rock originally brought up the non-partisan sit down...
- scoottie, on 09/25/2008, -20/+4mccain and obama are senators until they get elected ... mccain is going back to do his job while obama is not doing the job he is currently elected to do. maybe mccain is being to cautious but you know the old saying "better safe than sorry"
- stagmire, on 09/25/2008, -1/+17lol, yeah. The whole country might descend into the next great depression if McCain isn't in Washington on friday night to steer us away from disaster.
- juniper6782, on 09/25/2008, -0/+11umm...neither mccain or obama is on the committee that is actually working on the bill. as such, both are powerless to do anything more than drum up support for the bill.
the most both candidates can do is to keep distance from the bill and let it safely pass rather than politicizing it. - homercles337, on 09/25/2008, -0/+2Again, more ignorance from the right. Youre not going to vote are you? If so, i call for an immediate exam for all voters. A simple set of civics questions that a 6th grader can answer should filter out all the idiots like scoottie.
- PacificChef, on 09/25/2008, -1/+3Dishonorable Diss Charge
by Sayv1
Let's restore honor and honesty and hone our beliefs
that our honey is sweet and our hundred monkey theory
and meem making devices mean lies and deceit can seem
real for time before they dematerialize into steam and grime
It seems that I'm inspired again, not chastised by chagrins
of charlattans whose honor is weak, honest to pete!
My feet's sore, bleeding all the miles we've seen,
What a metaphor that stores the data that this message is complete
Anaphorally speaking, of course, honor comes in due course,
shored and tied with cord to honesty. honestly. Honor these
Words and sentences hence the blended beat recommends a second read. For a
more studiously ridiculed pour over or some sort of comprehension at least.
This wasn't sent from the beast but inspired by the Pleaides.
This is the plea I feel and thus this is the plea I read. Listen if you please.
This is just a tease for what you get when we finally meet.
I share story with first nations teachings, bonfirelit meetings
tears on the cheeks and hearts move together in beating
Like reiki or spanking it makes your energy move
I'll berate the fake uncle yankee in the shrewd same breath as my prayer
in tune with penumbra magnetic arithmathematicca where
I glow brighter when phoenetics used phrenetically scare
The McCain camp can't compare couldn't stand wouldn't dare
to duly duel, as dookie talking "duty walking" bullies are inflated with air
First we said it ain't fair, and now we've got a message to bare, internetted
and fully vetted for truth with no comparison
to pretty headed lipstick smeared pigs as your proof.
John McCain, this is YOUR glass roof.
You lied and and now its forever embedded in time.
You shamed yourself for party lines and lies reveal character flaws
so deeply buried inside that they'll never dislodge...
John McCain
This is your Dishonorable Diss Charge.
Pun intended and construed
This is Sayv1 and as for this message:
I approve. - brundlefly76, on 09/25/2008, -0/+8McCain might as well go back to the hill and get some work done - we're not electing him anyway.
I support his decision as long as he contributes all of his remaining campaign funds to the bailout. - darkcthulhu, on 09/25/2008, -4/+2Yeah, right. Dream on. Nutless wonders.
- CelloZach, on 09/25/2008, -1/+1As a Democrat and an amoeba, I resent that statement.
- PhrosTT, on 09/25/2008, -7/+24thank God my boy b-rock called that bitch out. when i saw mccain's ***** move earlier today i hoped so bad obama wouldn't pull a kerry and end up looking like a follower of the republicans.
- AmericanInsrgnt, on 09/24/2008, -7/+67This reminds me of the Repugs using Hurricane Ike for cheap political purposes and to avoid Junior and Cheney appearing in person at their convention.
What has McCain been doing for the last week and a half? Apparently not preparing for the debate. He sure wasn't suspending his campaign to work on the economic crisis.
C'mon, MSM call them on it. McCain's not ready to answer unscripted questions on the economy. The Crash McCain campaign has been hiding Crash and the Alaskan princess from media scrutiny for 26 days, since the Palin announcement.
http://www.democrats.org/page/content/ConfClock/
These two cannot stand up to questioning. Call them out!- dn11, on 09/25/2008, -1/+15they also want to use this to push back the VP debate of course
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/24/mccain-ca ... - sw33tsting, on 09/25/2008, -0/+9Actually, the hurricane was Gustav --- which did less damage than Ike.
- lweissberg, on 09/25/2008, -0/+8"What has McCain been doing for the last week and a half? Apparently not preparing for the debate."
Funny you should mention that. A couple of days ago I read that McCain wasn't planning to practice for the debate because he already "has so much experience debating in the Senate".
Then, yesterday, I read he WAS practicing for a couple of hours, after all. Now he wants to postpone them. Think it's a coincidence?- homercles337, on 09/25/2008, -0/+1He has been practicing every chance he gets. Way more than just a couple hours.
- bluezinc, on 09/25/2008, -0/+2They were doing that for Gustav, which didn't do much damage. By the time Ike came around they all went, "What New Orleans?" and ignored it like they did for Katrina.
- dn11, on 09/25/2008, -1/+15they also want to use this to push back the VP debate of course
- codeninja123, on 09/24/2008, -7/+89Again Obama shows leadership and comes off presidential. McCain has come off looking as if he is playing politics with this issue and as if he over reacted.
There is only one horse in this race and he is Barack Obama!- keymanjim3, on 09/25/2008, -29/+2How's the weather in bizaro world?
- bluezinc, on 09/25/2008, -1/+10How are the rapids in de-Nile?
- topgigmedia, on 09/25/2008, -12/+1what? hung like a horse?
- misfit410, on 09/25/2008, -2/+1What part of not wanting to go back and do your job in a crisis situation shows leadership?
Obama just wants to stay away from the Fannie Mae issue before people who unlike you are not brainwashed and stupid find out about his pal James Johnson having embezzled millions of dollars from Fannie Mae as CEO... this is just too close to Obama, and he has taken far too much money from this man.... it's bad to anyone with a brain..
but of course nothing can scratch your messiah!!
"Jesus was a Community Organizer too"- Yup, and never a politician, just let me know when Obama want's to step up on the cross.- bluezinc, on 09/25/2008, -0/+1You clearly have been watching a bit too much Fox News.
McCain isn't doing *****. He's running and hiding. He's not on the committee that is working on this, he's just trying to get away from Obama and his past with lobbyists and bankers.
As far as who is better at "doing their job" goes, McCain has the worst Senatorial attendance record this year.
James Johnson is Obama's "pal"? Sources please?
Also, if you're going to play that game, I suggest you wear body armor, because you're about to get owned.
One of McCain's top advisors was a LOBBYIST for the DEREGULATION of FANNIE MAE and was still receiving checks from them UP UNTIL A FEW MONTHS AGO. We're just going for his campaign advisers, if we were assholes like you and went after his "pals" too, McCain might as well change his name to Mr. Burns.
So, who's the ignorant brainwashed one now?
*****.
- bluezinc, on 09/25/2008, -0/+1You clearly have been watching a bit too much Fox News.
- keymanjim3, on 09/25/2008, -29/+2How's the weather in bizaro world?
- franklymister, on 09/24/2008, -8/+137"Presidents are going to have to deal with more than one thing at a time.." -Barack Obama
I guess McCain's strategy is the less America hears from McCain, the better his chances?- kashk5, on 09/25/2008, -0/+15Looks like he's taking tips from the Giuliani strategy book
- withoutteeth, on 09/25/2008, -8/+3It's actually genius. The American public have heard almost jack ***** from Palin and they like her.
- Wartyboskfapped, on 09/25/2008, -0/+10Polls say otherwise, foolio.
- topgigmedia, on 09/25/2008, -1/+14His actions are no better than that of someone who kicks the scrabble board after their opponent spells a 33 point word.
- bluezinc, on 09/25/2008, -0/+3LOL
- DigitalPimptres, on 09/25/2008, -1/+7Best line ever.
- tcbishop12, on 09/24/2008, -3/+45FTA: Earlier in the afternoon, Democrats in Congress were already calling out McCain for engaging in what was described, at various times, as a "Hail Mary pass" and a "deeply cynical" ploy.
"The debate should take place as scheduled," Speaker Nancy Pelosi said in an interview with NPR to be broadcast this afternoon. "We have to be able to do a couple of things at once. That's what leadership requires."- darkciti2, on 09/25/2008, -0/+1McCain wasn't even in the meeting today.
- MakiMaki, on 09/24/2008, -44/+5I'm no McCain supporter. Not at all. But in terms of political strategy, I thought this move by McCain was brilliant.
It's a great way to position himself as a bi-partisan 'leader' on this issue that most Americans are worried about. Obama and his camp must be a little upset for not pulling it off first (although he did contact McCain earlier in the day to talk about releasing a joint statement of principle, but that was in private). Looks like McCain struck first.
Every current event going on right now is fodder for winning hearts and minds. Most Americans are too wrapped up in work and their daily lives to follow the election very closely...but all of them know or am deeply concerned with the economy/bailout. A huge media-friendly publicity gesture like this that says 'country/people first, politics second' is golden.
Sure you can call it a cheap stunt but hey, it works. Electioneering politics is all about managing perspectives.- Olfster, on 09/25/2008, -2/+19You really believe that? Good luck to you.
- MacBigot, on 09/25/2008, -0/+1Thanks, Maki Maki. The opinion of a ThinkProgress surrogate from TORONTO is just what the US presidential race needed most.
- manyamile, on 09/24/2008, -4/+56I am a voter. the only chances I have to watch the candidates more or less unscripted are the debates.
As imperfect as the debates are, Voters want and deserve to see the candidates debate.
Especially now, when the campaign has deteriorated into personality jibes midst serious national and international issues.
Even if the topic is foreign policy as originally planned.
John McCain, trying to postpone the debates is an act of cynicism and cowardice. Your ruse is transparent. You are not putting country first here, you are trying to win an election by the dubious means.
You are demonstrating to me, a voter, that your decisionmaking is unbalanced, erratic and theatrical. you are playing craps with the public trust. It shows me what a horrendous president you would be. But at least step up up the podium to debate like an honest man.- Zarchon, on 09/25/2008, -16/+2Oh like you would vote for McCain regardless of how the debates went.
Try this Digg, instead of telling me how bad McCain is why don't you tell me how good Obama and Biden are going to be? How is cutting income tax on people who make less that $250k going to help the budget? How is paying for everyone's medical going to help? If the deficit is so large and out of control then shouldn't we be discussing spending cuts? Taxes are the main reason I don't vote Democrat. You shouldn't spend money you don't have. Yes, Bush has spent a LOT of money, I get that but it isn't the Republican platform. I know for a fact that cutting any programs is totally against the democrats policy. They want the government in everything. The point is you people should be all for the bailout. It is socialism at it's finest. That said, we really have no other choice. Any time something is socialized you people should jump for joy. Oh wait, it matters who does something not what is actually done.- wampalord, on 09/25/2008, -1/+13Okay, let's go point-by-point.
- Sure, I'll tell you how good they will be. They will be quite good. Satisfied?
- Raising taxes on people who make $250k or more is what is going to pay for the tax cuts for the rest of us
- Deficit spending is the norm for our government, we've only had surpluses on rare occasions
- The fact that we're NOT for the bailout should really counter the whole "OMG SOCIALISM!" thing you all have been spouting. Seems the Republicans are the socialists now.
- Any time something is socialized we jump for joy? Pardon me, I guess I forgot to jump during all of this Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac nonsense. - awasson, on 09/25/2008, -0/+4How about watching them debate?
That's the way it's supposed to work.
- wampalord, on 09/25/2008, -1/+13Okay, let's go point-by-point.
- darkcthulhu, on 09/25/2008, -3/+4Are you blind? Mr McCain is looking out for the American people, like he always has and will! This is not some political BS going on here.
Yeah, that's sarcasm. - Goodanswer, on 09/25/2008, -1/+2He is not an honest man anymore, nor has he been since when he admitted that Washington has "changed him."
He is a Liar, plain and simple. John is not fit to be president.
Nor does he understand what is going on and this lil video link if you remember helps to show just what he doesnt talk about. One person he mentions is Phil Gramm, one of the major contributing factors of why we are in such trouble right now economically.
Way to surround yourself with precision, John.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUZwL9GPcNw&feature ...
- Zarchon, on 09/25/2008, -16/+2Oh like you would vote for McCain regardless of how the debates went.
- regicide, on 09/24/2008, -3/+73I can't wait till this stunt backfires on McCain
- stagmire, on 09/25/2008, -0/+21You can't wait until 12 hours ago?
- AmazingSteve, on 09/25/2008, -0/+8Priceless. The stuff just writes itself.
- DangerCollie, on 09/25/2008, -0/+2Already has. If you mean you can't wait to see what effect this has on the poll numbers, you won't have to wait long. I'd like to see McCain's poll numbers for the Old Miss area today. Dis 'Ol Miss and he'll be turning MS blue.
- stagmire, on 09/25/2008, -0/+21You can't wait until 12 hours ago?
- lemon9, on 09/25/2008, -3/+31Somebody ought to tell the McCain camp that this isn't like a basketball game where, when the other team has a little momentum going, you call time out. Talk about running scared..
Bravo to Barack for not taking the bait. More! More!- keymanjim3, on 09/25/2008, -7/+2Somebody was praising obambi for having this idea first and condemning McCain for "stealing" it.
Explain that one.- bluezinc, on 09/25/2008, -0/+2Well it's good your objective and prestigious source known as "somebody" is paying such close attention!
- keymanjim3, on 09/25/2008, -7/+2Somebody was praising obambi for having this idea first and condemning McCain for "stealing" it.
- AmericanInsrgnt, on 09/25/2008, -6/+56McCain lied to Letterman and cancelled a scheduled appearance but did an interview with Katie Couric when he was supposed to be on Letterman. Letterman played the live feed.
He was afraid of Letterman and Letterman mocked him anyway. KO replaced McCain. Talk about blowing up in your face. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/24/john-mcca ...
McCain sits on no committee involved in this law. He hasn't even showed up for a vote since April. I don't think this is turning out to be a brilliant move.- algaeturd, on 09/25/2008, -2/+22Letterman spent 16 minutes making fun of McCain after that. It was BRILLIANT.
- magus_melchior, on 09/25/2008, -0/+5(misquoted Obi-Wan)
I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if thousands of voices were raised in blind rage.
That will remind me never to mess with Letterman. - poxonyou, on 09/25/2008, -0/+3He was careful to blame others for influencing his decision and not McCain directly...you know, because he's a POW, which are equal status to God.
Perfect timing when they did the cut to the live feed as he was getting his $5000 makeup work done. (Yes, I understand you need to look nice when running for president, but tell that to the Republicans who went ballistic about Edwards. As if the Republicans, Real Men/Americans, shave their own heads and run campaigns right after mowing the lawn or playing football).
- vexingmodstwo, on 09/25/2008, -42/+10Leave it to the leftwing moonbats to criticize someone for actually doing their job.
- moolaismyfriend, on 09/25/2008, -8/+14Yeah like showing up to vote on the veterans health care bill...ohh wait he was too busy to bother to come back to work to support the troops, cause he was paying 5000$ for a makeup job.
Obama voted for it.
*****. - soot, on 09/25/2008, -4/+14And what is he going to Capitol Hill to do? Its not out of the House yet. He wasn't called up for a vote. He doesn't even serve on the committee that's crafting this bailout legislation. I definitely don't think the Congress is missing and wondering where John "I don't know much about the economy" McCain's economic and fiscal chops are while they're hammering out their bill.
Nobody buys that ***** for a second that he can't afford ninety minutes to participate in one long-awaited and expected debate, but he apparently has time to meet with his fundraiser Lynn de Rothschild and get his face prettied up for an interview with Katie Couric. He's flying off to Washington like Superman to make an example of his opponent. He's there to pose, and his presence at the expense of his debate appearance is purely symbolic.- lweissberg, on 09/25/2008, -1/+6I think the people who buy into this "McCain's doing his patriotic duty" crap, do it because they have this mistaken image of the ENTIRE Congress and the ENTIRE Senate holding giant discussions, while there's an just an empty seat for Obama.
Try to explain to them that ONLY the relevant committees are holding negotiations, and the rest will only be needed there to vote, and they just don't get it.
But then again, these are same people who think Palin was chosen for her qualifications. I suppose I shouldn't expect better in this case.
- lweissberg, on 09/25/2008, -1/+6I think the people who buy into this "McCain's doing his patriotic duty" crap, do it because they have this mistaken image of the ENTIRE Congress and the ENTIRE Senate holding giant discussions, while there's an just an empty seat for Obama.
- Jareth86, on 09/25/2008, -3/+13If Obama had done it, you'd have called him a coward and praise McCain for his ability to handle multiple issues.
- stagmire, on 09/25/2008, -10/+2Yes, by all means run your campaign on hypotheticals about things that didn't happen.
- vexingmodstwo, on 09/25/2008, -7/+3Hey Jareth,
Wrong.
I also know Obama would never have taken the initiative and done it because Obama doesn't have any initiative. He's an Axelrod puppet. - Jareth86, on 09/25/2008, -0/+2Ah yes, *Obama* has no initiative, unlike McCain, who's been absent from more votes during his entire career than anyone in the senate. Now that's initiative!
To be fair though, I'm sure owning seven houses, thirteen cars, and a private jet can be very time consuming.
- publiclurker, on 09/25/2008, -4/+10He's on not any finance committees. Unless you consider running and hiding an actual job, he's not doing anything even remotely admirable.
- awasson, on 09/25/2008, -4/+3That's original... How about thinking before cutting and pasting more of the same thoughtless rhetoric that got the US in such a sad state of affairs.
- Wartyboskfapped, on 09/25/2008, -2/+3LOL
told you your job would be tough, vexing.
Want a tissue? Or a xanax? - euw144, on 09/25/2008, -1/+1Sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me.
Signed "leftwing moonbat" - masterkenobi, on 09/25/2008, -0/+4What the ***** is a moonbat?
- moolaismyfriend, on 09/25/2008, -8/+14Yeah like showing up to vote on the veterans health care bill...ohh wait he was too busy to bother to come back to work to support the troops, cause he was paying 5000$ for a makeup job.
- narupo, on 09/25/2008, -4/+17http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/6710/timeoutvf3 ...
- Sfenton, on 09/25/2008, -1/+2Maybe he found out that the Democratically controlled congress wanted to block this bill from happening.
- scoottie, on 09/25/2008, -3/+4no they want more Christmas tree and pork spending
- ironiridis, on 09/25/2008, -1/+1Weird, how the American people who are pissed about this bailout have someone REPRESENTING THEM in congress! I mean, it's not like the Democrats are going to LISTEN TO THEIR CONSTITUENTS. That's just nonsense!
- Sfenton, on 09/25/2008, -1/+2Maybe he found out that the Democratically controlled congress wanted to block this bill from happening.
- ambiguus, on 09/25/2008, -3/+43you know what's scary? go over to the election section of fox news, and look through the comments people are saying in regards to this news headline...everyone is completely behin mccain for this decision, and calling him very presidential for doing it. does anyone else find that scary?
- SpankkBankk, on 09/25/2008, -39/+4Find it scary that McCain is actually doing his job? Oh wait you guys just like to hear Hussein speaking about Change all day rather than work...
- publiclurker, on 09/25/2008, -2/+13He's on not any finance committees. Unless you consider running and hiding an actual job, he's not doing anything even remotely admirable.
- keymanjim3, on 09/25/2008, -0/+12It was just as retarded the first time you posted it.
- ironiridis, on 09/25/2008, -0/+4Hussein? He's dead, isn't he?
Oh, wait, you're talking about Barack Obama. Clever! I see what you did there.
- cjshamrock, on 09/25/2008, -0/+12Very.
- Zarchon, on 09/25/2008, -12/+0No, read Digg, nobody here sees it like that. Oh wait, perhaps Digg is out of touch with reality.
- Reynardine, on 09/25/2008, -1/+10And perhaps WSJ, NYT, and the Washington Post are out of touch with reality for finally posting McCain-slamming editorials based on information floating around Digg for months.
Please don't tell me that the Fox News election section is your definition of reality. - ironiridis, on 09/25/2008, -0/+1Perhaps we shouldn't define our reality in the context of the internet anyway. :)
- Reynardine, on 09/25/2008, -1/+10And perhaps WSJ, NYT, and the Washington Post are out of touch with reality for finally posting McCain-slamming editorials based on information floating around Digg for months.
- lweissberg, on 09/25/2008, -0/+10What else would you expect from people who get their news from Fox?
- f54280, on 09/25/2008, -0/+1You don't really believe that those are genuine reactions, do you ? That is mostly astroturfing, like, for instance, the letters to the newspaper editors.
They are trying to create the perception that people see McCain as having the high ground, so news will report that, which would change the perception into a fact.
They are trying to avoid debates, declare some sort of "political state of emergency", and turn your election into a partisan choice republican vs democrat, white vs black choice, with no time spend on the issues/programs. With a bit of 2000/2004 ballot stuffing, it may work.
Of course, McCain is borderline senile, and Palin inexistent, hence the neocons will have the white house for 4 more years.
It is fascinating to see the pattern in investment banking CEOs attitude ("Let's make as much money as we can, without caring a single bit about the price of the risk, as it'll be so high that everybody will pay for them" matching the neocon political attitude ("Let's take as much power/money as we can without caring a single bit about the result for the US, as everybody will pay for the mess in the destroyed political/economical landscape").- omnis, on 09/25/2008, -0/+1Well yeah, but only about as scary as Digg where everyone is completely behind obama for this decision, and calling him very presidential for doing it. does anyone else find that scary?
- lanceyromancey, on 09/25/2008, -0/+3its not that surprising..these people watch fox news after all
- MindyB, on 09/25/2008, -0/+3Consider the source! who are the ones more likely to write in the Fox news blogs? Repugs, and those particular repugs would hail McCain even if he pooped his pants and took them off in the middle of a press release! They would find some rationalization for it and declare him to be even more Presidential. I wouldn't worry about it, more and more people, especially the undecided voters, are beginning to see through the lies, deceptions and retarded antics of the McCain camp. This latest stunt may just seal the deal with many who are on the fence. Remember that most of those who are undecided are not as dumb as the typical republican base who ........ well you know think Palin is the smartest woman on earth!
- SpankkBankk, on 09/25/2008, -39/+4Find it scary that McCain is actually doing his job? Oh wait you guys just like to hear Hussein speaking about Change all day rather than work...
- pjpark, on 09/25/2008, -32/+5Incredible! A Democrat insists that it would be "unhelpful" for a Republican to be in Washington to debate what to do about the economy. Where does HP come up with these amazing stories. I would not have believed it if I hadn't read it here.
- TBombadil, on 09/25/2008, -1/+2not McCain though.
- awasson, on 09/25/2008, -0/+4Don't you think there are enough people in Congress to get the job done? Would you have the president pick and choose what to do if several priorities come in at once... Put off everything except the one that doesn't make him actually work?
Don't you want to see your president unscripted... Thinking on his feet? That's what the debates are about friend... It's where the rubber hits the road. There's no delay, what you see is what you get.- pjpark, on 09/25/2008, -2/+1I am mocking the article for offering only quotes from Democrats to support the proposition that Republican John McCain's presence in Washington would not be helpful. My initial reaction to McCain's move was that it was pretty lame so I am completely open to arguments that it is. In that light, the HP article is pretty pathetic even for my low expectations of their content. The only intelligent political analysis that I have seen so far came from David Letterman.
- Sfenton, on 09/25/2008, -39/+3Obama supporters are cowards. Who the hell would actually digg this up.
http://i38.tinypic.com/6ibsqr.jpg- awasson, on 09/25/2008, -3/+4ummmm.... You suck :-p
- Terrk, on 09/25/2008, -2/+3Your stupidity surpasses my ability to comprehend stupid-ness.
- wacked, on 09/25/2008, -0/+3Only a coward would call others cowards in an anonymous forum.
- Jareth86, on 09/25/2008, -4/+12*Sigh*, I knew the dems would cave. They always... Wait, what?!
Write to the Obama campaign now and tell them you support their decision, before the negative emails the McCain bots send make them change their minds!
http://my.barackobama.com/page/s/contact2- Jareth86, on 09/25/2008, -2/+2*and be sure to fill in the zip code field with a zip code from a swing state; might make them more apt to listen ;)
- 4321234, on 09/25/2008, -3/+22McCain will have this economic crisis straightened out in a few days. Why, just a couple of days ago the fundamentals were strong. It can't be that bad.
- TSK05, on 09/25/2008, -7/+4This is such a non-issue, if the fundamentals of the economy weren't strong, the US would be third world.
- awasson, on 09/25/2008, -2/+4I'm afraid it will be before long
- AmazingSteve, on 09/25/2008, -1/+3You've obviously never been to Detroit.
- Firgof, on 09/25/2008, -0/+1So they're sending McCain to help out with our financial crisis.
McCain, who states the fundamentals of our economy our strong, when he also stated that they were at risk?
McCain, who states that he doesn't know much about the economy, is now -canceling his campaigning- to offer up his expertise to Congress?
McCain, who isn't even a member of any committee relevant to the upcoming bill and hasn't voted on a singular bill for months now?
McCain, who announced he would 'make famous' the first pork spender he saw in office when he's got one right next to him?
McCain, who couldn't even tell Letterman off nicely?
So, let me get this straight. They're sending a guy who doesn't know much about the economy, who can't do anything about this bill or impact it in any way, who refuses to admit that the base of our economy is crumbling, who just got his arse handed to him by Letterman for being shallow and dismissive, who can't multi-task, has made no statement of apology to Letterman, who has a horrible record for -one of the most absentee congresses and houses in our entire history-, who graduated third from the bottom of his class, whose acceptance speech was highly reminiscent of Bush's idea of 'change', who has received numerous endorsements and nods by President Bush, who has the whole Keating 5 incident he refuses to address ... to vote on the most powerful bill of our lifetime?
To Our Congress and the House of Representatives: SHUT THE GODDAMN GATES!!
- TSK05, on 09/25/2008, -7/+4This is such a non-issue, if the fundamentals of the economy weren't strong, the US would be third world.
- teotbote, on 09/25/2008, -1/+20I've never really cared for McCain as a politician, but I never would have expected this kind of thing from him. I have no idea what he's thinking, but there are probably very very few people to whom this is going to look good. It's a very strange move.
- omnis, on 09/25/2008, -2/+1Yeah, geez, I know if I wanted to look up to someone, I'd rather have them talk than take any action. From what I can tell, Obama is all talk and no action.
- TurdZilla, on 09/25/2008, -3/+22Thats right "Drill baby Drill".......... McSame should continue to drill his campaign into hole....
- bongfarmer, on 09/25/2008, -0/+8So either Obama agrees to reschedule or McCain agrees to debate, and whoever gives in looks weak. Will Obama just be up their by himself giving a speech?
what I hate about situations like this is that it makes busywork. McCain has to make damm sure to be looking super busy during the scheduled debate time if he doesn't go.- awasson, on 09/25/2008, -0/+4If he doesn't show up.... Check Letterman.
- Jektal, on 09/25/2008, -0/+5The best thing IMO that Obama can do is both. Spend as much time in Washington as possible saying "yes I'm here to do whatever I can to help things get settled" but then make absolutely sure he hops on the jet in time to get to the debate just before it starts.
If McCain doesn't show up he can say "See, I was able to have a presence in Washington and still be here for this debate. Why can't McCain do this? Is he that unorganized? Or is he hiding from something?"
It'd be a very tight schedule, but I can't believe that they couldn't make it happen.
- plumcarrot, on 09/25/2008, -3/+19Republicans seriously think they can just not show up and get away with it.
- iloveobama, on 09/25/2008, -26/+4Democrats invented "political correctness" which is destroying our country. Thanks socialist liberals...
- absurdist, on 09/25/2008, -3/+14Please...
I would attempt to engage in some manner of intellectual debate with you, but that would be useless. Just STFU, troll. - iloveobama, on 09/25/2008, -14/+2Typical liberal. Can only resort to childish retorts and name-calling. I bet your intelligence matches up with your financial situation
- writeman, on 09/25/2008, -0/+9"Thanks socialist liberals..."
Uh, who's resorting to name calling? Pot, meet kettle.
I'm a liberal and I hate political correctness. But that's beside the point. What does political correctness have to do with McCain pussying out on the debate?
This is obviously a political stunt and if you can't see that, or are too proud to admit your guy is a loser, then I feel sorry for you. - cmootoo, on 09/25/2008, -0/+6Please fill us in on what type of system condones nationalizing major public investment banks?
While you're at it, please note that a Democrat wasn't in charge. You need the 'socialist liberals' to come in and fix this mess you 'right wing zealots' created.
- writeman, on 09/25/2008, -0/+9"Thanks socialist liberals..."
- absurdist, on 09/25/2008, -3/+14Please...
- magus_melchior, on 09/25/2008, -4/+4(stiff upper lip) I say, it seems the Democrats have finally regained their backbone after being rendered invertebrate by their Vice President.
- Ragingcnu, on 09/25/2008, -2/+7owned!
- magus_melchior, on 09/25/2008, -2/+20It was insane watching Bush trying to make his case to the public.
"Just loan us some money, and we'll buy the 'stinky cheese' loans from the guys on Wall Street that got too greedy. Don't worry, the cheese will mature into delicious Limberger, and we can sell them at a profit!"
I'm sure that's called a scam, Mr. President.- AmazingSteve, on 09/25/2008, -0/+5TRANSLATION: "What do I give a *****? I'm outta here in a coupla' weeks n' then I'm goin' to clear some brush."
- JimmyIkon, on 09/25/2008, -1/+13Interesting move by McCain. With the polls dropping for McCain because of his perceived weakness on the economy (i.e. "the fundamentals of the economy are strong" gaffe) and recent events in the past week, he has two choices. He can either continue on with business as usual and get killed in the debate on friday or do something drastic. He does something drastic and starts second surprise (Palin being the first).
He suspends his campaign and urges Obama to do the same to take care of business in Washington. So far Obama declines, but the pressure is on for a fix to the situation this week and McCain is going to walk in there and take credit for it either way. He's going to urge the republicans to compromise, which they will anyway, and bring the parties together to get some form of a bill passed. If something passes by friday, he looks like a hero walking into the debate, and if nothing gets passed and the dow drops 400 points on friday, he walks into the debate saying he put the country first and tried to do something, where were you Obama?. Crazy stuff. It'll be interesting to see how it shakes out.- cjshamrock, on 09/25/2008, -3/+8Yup. Never underestimate these Repugs, they know how to cheat.
- JimmyIkon, on 09/25/2008, -12/+4And Obama didn't cheat by disqualifying his opponents in the Illinois senate race?
- writeman, on 09/25/2008, -1/+7How did Obama cheat? His opponents ***** up and he pointed it out. Sucks for them when somebody plays by the rules, doesn't it?
- colorwindows, on 09/25/2008, -0/+1ya cjshamrock,
at first I was incensed by the 32 dirty words in bush's original proposal --
Decisions by the Secretary pursuant to the authority of this Act are non-reviewable and committed to agency discretion, and may not be reviewed by any court of law or any administrative agency. --
But then I thought, wait a minute, surely not even teh repigs would believe this could pass Constitutional muster. It's a dog and pony show setup for mccain to "orchestrate a compromise." ...so I hope writeman is right! - jackieblu, on 09/25/2008, -0/+2Too bad McCan't is unable to multi - task; whoa, slow down people ~ talking about the economy on the hill, and then having a debate too. Plus he has to fit his changes, and his naps. When he doesn't nap - he gets so cranky, and that pesky temperament issue comes up, and then his memory falters, but other than that he's ready to be president... He knows he's gonna get is ass kicked, and he's acting like a wuss...Too bad for the old guy, even post phoning the debate won't help his double digit IQ. His own party has been calling him out on his *****, lies, and ignorance.
- writeman, on 09/25/2008, -2/+4McCain will not look like a hero out of this. The issue is too complicated for that.
Instead, the initial impression is that he's a coward. I don't think that's about to change.
- cjshamrock, on 09/25/2008, -3/+8Yup. Never underestimate these Repugs, they know how to cheat.
- TSK05, on 09/25/2008, -4/+8Did Hill Democrats also have any comment on why the chairman of the Financial Service Committee said ''These two entities -- Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac -- are not facing any kind of financial crisis. The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing'" when McCain and Bush proposed an agency to oversee Fannie and Freddie in 2003?
- DigitAl56K, on 09/25/2008, -3/+14Republicans are trying to boost McCain's economic standing by saying he's so essential they can't solve this problem without him.
There are 199 republicans in congress. 198 of them are apparently ***** useless without John McCain.- awasson, on 09/25/2008, -0/+6Good point... What the f@ck is John "I don't understand economics" McCain going to do to help the cause?
- Jektal, on 09/25/2008, -0/+1I think the philosophy is that without their current leaders (McCain and Obama) present, the members of congress will just get into a bitch-fest about whose party is better and not get anything done.
With the candidates in attendance though the other members will likely try to suck up and do what their candidate tells them to - and since the media will be hounding the candidates and they're going to try to make this into a PR move, they'll come to a quick compromise. - CedarPark, on 09/25/2008, -0/+2Good point, except for John McCain ain't a freaking congressman.
- Kiwibomb, on 09/25/2008, -1/+1senators arent apart of congress?
- darkciti2, on 09/25/2008, -1/+1There's only 1 problem with McCain's visit to DC today:
He wasn't in the bipartisan meeting.
- TrancePhreak, on 09/25/2008, -18/+6Huffington Spam, as funded by digg.
- leonelvis, on 09/25/2008, -11/+3Well, I don't like McCain and nothing he says or does will ever sway me to vote for Republicans. However he is right that this is no time for politicking. I would prefer that Obama be in Washington right now defending the interest of taxpayers. This would certainly earn my respect and vote more than the partisan one-upmanship both candidates have been engaging lately.
- awasson, on 09/25/2008, -2/+7I don't believe you
- cmootoo, on 09/25/2008, -1/+5Let the committees working out the details do their job. When they are done they'll present it to Congress to review and vote. Neither Obama nor McCain are on those committees.
- antipoet, on 09/25/2008, -0/+2Let's not forget the initially a republican suggested to Obama that he and McCain should offer a joint resolution to avoid partisan one-upsmanship. When Obama did, McCain flew out in front of the press and took a very partisan stance, calling Obama out and bringing politics into the issue. Wouldn't you agree that this wouldn't even be an argument right now had McCain not suddenly made such a big deal of it? If he wants to work fine, go to Washington and sit in your seat and hope people notice. I would respect the hell out of that. But turning it into a presidential firestorm is not the most clever move.
- DirkBelig, on 09/25/2008, -20/+6Imagine that. The Digg herd come to regurgitate ludicrous fantasies about how mighty their Messiah is despite reality.
There is a crisis and one candidate decided it was more important to do something for the nation than his own selfish thirst for power and that wasn't Obama. All Obama has is empty words and hype and since he is incapable of making any decisions until he sees what everyone else is doing, he is sticking to bamboozling the sheeple.
I wonder how many of you blind disciples are even aware that he won his state Senate race by having all of his competitors thrown off the ballot via technicalities, including the black woman who was his political mentor? He won his US Senate seat by having his opponent's sealed divorce records leaked to the press to drive him from the race and running against the laughable Alan Keyes. Obama has never had a serious challenge and is relying on the biased media and his cultists to carry him over the finish line.
McCain ain't much of a prize, but compared to the naive Marxist terrorist sympathizer empty suit from Illinois, he is a Titan.- sugarazor, on 09/25/2008, -2/+8Obama's the "Messiah," yet Republicans are the ones halting any progress on this legislation that "must be passed quickly" by waiting around for their prodigal son, John McCain?
- awasson, on 09/25/2008, -1/+7I think you're confused... Obama is neither a Marxist or a terrorist sympathizer. He's actually trying to get some things done to improve the country. I suggest you listen up or maybe STFU!
- Infidelcastr0, on 09/25/2008, -0/+2Haven't you heard? Anyone who's not a free-market fundamentalist is a communist, anyone who doesn't believe in murdering people to advance American business is a terrorist sympathizer, anyone who questions the government is unpatriotic and anyone who is articulate is an empty suit. Get with the program already. Now quit being such a lefty liberal socialist moonbat hippie elitist America hater, put on your flag pin, and start saying baaaaa!
- homercles337, on 09/25/2008, -0/+3Trollie the troll likes to troll.
- iloveobama, on 09/25/2008, -16/+8Huffington Post must be making a fortune off of Digg. I'm highly considering starting a liberal news site and posting articles on here (as long as they report negatively on McCain and explain how great messiah Obama is)....talk about a great business plan
- davidg11, on 09/25/2008, -3/+4I hear ya. I'd make a killing on advertising revenue.
I can either complain about the 300 huffington post articles about McCain's makeup OR get rich!
CHA CHING! - TrancePhreak, on 09/25/2008, -2/+1The great part is you can just summarize Spamington Post's stories and link to their article... just like they do for other sites!
- Jektal, on 09/25/2008, -1/+2Yeah. I'm pretty damn liberal and a big Obama supporter, but this is getting annoying. I want to hear what the MSM is saying about this scandal, because that's still by definition where most people get their news. I already know what angle Huffington post is going to give, and Fox is pretty easy to predict. But what about all the other news outlets?
- davidg11, on 09/25/2008, -3/+4I hear ya. I'd make a killing on advertising revenue.
- davidg11, on 09/25/2008, -13/+5Speaking of the economy, how exactly is Obama going to pay for Universal Health Care?
Oh yes. Increasing taxes on only those making $250K or more a year.
Here's the problem Obamaians. There are only 1.1 million americans making that amount a year:
http://pubdb3.census.gov/macro/032008/perinc/new11 ...
So say another 10% tax increase to those people. How exactly does that pay for health care for 300 million americans?
Do the math, and if you can explain how it works, I will vote Obama.
If you can not, maybe you'll vote for McCain who doesn't make up numbers from thin air.- sugarazor, on 09/25/2008, -1/+10How exactly are we going to pay for $700 billion to bailout businesses that ran themselves into the ground?
As for healthcare: http://cthealth.server101.com/the_case_for_univers ...
# Fact One: The United States spends at least 40% more per capita on health care than any other industrialized country with universal health care
# Fact Two: Federal studies by the Congressional Budget Office and the General Accounting office show that single payer universal health care would save 100 to 200 Billion dollars per year despite covering all the uninsured and increasing health care benefits.
# Fact Three: State studies by Massachusetts and Connecticut have shown that single payer universal health care would save 1 to 2 Billion dollars per year from the total medical expenses in those states despite covering all the uninsured and increasing health care benefits
# Fact Four: The costs of health care in Canada as a % of GNP, which were identical to the United States when Canada changed to a single payer, universal health care system in 1971, have increased at a rate much lower than the United States, despite the US economy being much stronger than Canada’s.
# Conclusion: Single payer universal health care costs would be lower than the current US system due to lower administrative costs. The United States spends 50 to 100% more on administration than single payer systems. By lowering these administrative costs the United States would have the ability to provide universal health care, without managed care, increase benefits and still save money - definedbywords, on 09/25/2008, -0/+4If we taxed anything over $250K at 10% it would generate at least $27,500,000,000 and that sure is a lot of money!
Also, stop spending billions of dollars every month in Iraq? It would cost lest to provide health insurance to the 46 million uninsured people in the country than we have spent in Iraq.
I don't believe the plan calls for an end to employer based health care....so we are not paying for 300 million Americans
http://www.barackobama.com/issues/healthcare/
- sugarazor, on 09/25/2008, -1/+10How exactly are we going to pay for $700 billion to bailout businesses that ran themselves into the ground?
- lopla, on 09/25/2008, -3/+8snap poll has McCain camp in panic mode. RCP predicts 8-10 point drop tomorrow. It's over.
- keymanjim3, on 09/25/2008, -15/+2After the Bush speech tonight I'd say it's just beginning.
Obambi is toast and he'll never see it coming.- awasson, on 09/25/2008, -1/+9What.... You think that Bush speaking will have a negative affect on Obama?
Oh, that's some funny stuff. Have you never heard Bush speak... He's an idiot in front of a microphone. I heard the speech a few hours ago and it was certainly not awe inspiring... Just more ramblings from someone who looks to be suffering from too many years mismanaging the country.
He said at first he didn't think it was such a big deal but then he talked to some "experts" who convinced him that it was a big deal. He's completely out of touch... Just like Johnny "the economy has never been better" McCain! - lanceyromancey, on 09/25/2008, -1/+1I think you interpreted this wrong..it means that McCain is toast..
- keymanjim3, on 09/26/2008, -0/+1Bush's speech will have a negative affect on obambi. If the republicans know how to use it.
- awasson, on 09/25/2008, -1/+9What.... You think that Bush speaking will have a negative affect on Obama?
- antipoet, on 09/25/2008, -0/+1Can you link to the prediction please? I am just not seeing it.
- ozel01, on 09/25/2008, -0/+2A snap poll I saw last night showed something totally different. When people were asked whether they thought this was a political stunt or putting country first, over 30,000 people voted. 89% said he was putting country first while only 11% said he was pulling a political stunt.
- darkciti2, on 09/25/2008, -0/+1Is that 8-10 point drop with the debate or without it?
I'm quite sure the debate is going to have a significant affect on the polls as well.
- keymanjim3, on 09/25/2008, -15/+2After the Bush speech tonight I'd say it's just beginning.
- DrWiggly, on 09/25/2008, -4/+8Man I hope he doesn't show up. Obama will give a kick ass speech for sure.
- Farcanell, on 09/25/2008, -0/+3"I'd say we should have thought of it, but we did, then McCain [screwed] us."
I wonder what it was the aide actually said... *whistles* - Yatata, on 09/25/2008, -1/+7I don't know, something about this feels like it's something entirely different than about the economy or about a gimmick. I think it's his personal health. My mom passed away from breast cancer a few years ago and there's something about McCain... he has the same look. His left eye is blinking more slowly than his right eye, he looks deeply worried, and as much as I'd like to give him the benefit of the doubt on this one, I don't think it's about the economy.
- sugarazor, on 09/25/2008, -1/+9I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but the latest one floating around is that this is all just a scheme to get Palin into the White House. McCain will step aside after winning the election, citing health reasons, and we'll get the candidate the Neocons really want.
- DreKor, on 09/25/2008, -1/+9I think you would actually see rioting if that happened
- sugarazor, on 09/25/2008, -2/+8I think we're going to see rioting if anything shady happens in this election.
- Yatata, on 09/25/2008, -0/+8what freaks me out about that theory is the recent report that they're sending in troops that have been stationed in Iraq to come back to the states and deal with any outbreaks of "civil unrest".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYxTzDFofZQ - AmazingSteve, on 09/25/2008, -2/+1Replacing George Bush with a real Bush!! My God! It's diabolical!!
- lweissberg, on 09/25/2008, -1/+9If his health is really that bad, he should do the TRULY patriotic thing and step down. Running for POTUS when you know you're not up to it is extremely irresponsible, especially considering the current state of the nation.
- Bastet62, on 09/25/2008, -0/+4Yatata said: "...McCain... he has the same look. His left eye is blinking more slowly than his right eye, he looks deeply worried, and as much as I'd like to give him the benefit of the doubt on this one, I don't think it's about the economy.... " (sorry about your mom).
That's the exact same way our country looks right now.... one step away from its deathbed thanks to the policies of Bu$h & Co. A cancer 40 years in the making metastasizing exponentially as we speak.
- sugarazor, on 09/25/2008, -1/+9I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but the latest one floating around is that this is all just a scheme to get Palin into the White House. McCain will step aside after winning the election, citing health reasons, and we'll get the candidate the Neocons really want.
- jfg84, on 09/25/2008, -1/+8McCain's strategy is "I'm going to get at least 50 percent of the vote from people who think I'm actually going to overturn Roe v. Wade".
- edblaze, on 09/25/2008, -13/+4@Liberals.
Just admit it. There is nothing Conservatives can do to please you and that whatever they say black or white, a or b, you will say the opposite.- AmazingSteve, on 09/25/2008, -1/+3That's why Obama will be moving into his superfly new pad soon. Problem solved, thanks for coming out.
- AmazingSteve, on 09/25/2008, -1/+1That's why Obama will be moving into his superfly new pad soon. Problem solved. Thanks for coming out.
- gaqua, on 09/25/2008, -1/+3Since when is John McCain a conservative?
Don't assume current Republicans are conservatives - they aren't.
There is absolutely nothing "conservative" about John McCain's politics anymore. - bigfatpaulie, on 09/25/2008, -0/+1Hagel. Point - Set - Match.
- whenelephants, on 09/25/2008, -3/+5McCain seems to be a desperate man who is resorting to ever desperate more tactics. Is he planning on taking a "time out" when things get the slightest bit tough in the White House? That sounds to me a lot like what George Bush did, and look at how much our nation is buckling under that debacle. McCain & Palin: Chicken & Pork! Comments welcome: http://whenelephantsfly.blogspot.com
- 11b1p, on 09/25/2008, -3/+5John McCain is a Senator and gets paid to represent his people his ass better ***** be there with all this money about to be spent.
- Jektal, on 09/25/2008, -0/+2I agree. I think both candidates should still be doing their jobs in congress.
But why the hell do we have to cancel the debates then? At worst have the studio move the set to somewhere in Washington and do the debate after the senate closes for the day.
If either candidate can't handle that much work/stress in one day, then to hell with them, let's find a candidate who can!- 11b1p, on 09/26/2008, -0/+2I see no reason why they can't move the debate EXCEPT the whiney little people at the school that is hosting it will be all pissy but ***** them.
- Jektal, on 09/25/2008, -0/+2I agree. I think both candidates should still be doing their jobs in congress.
- fuze44, on 09/25/2008, -12/+2Digg liberals put the "jerk" in "knee-jerk."
- HarryRag, on 09/25/2008, -0/+2Digg republicans put the "dumb" in "dumbass".
- TheWriteGuy, on 09/25/2008, -1/+8McSame/Bailin' 2008
- getatmedigg, on 09/25/2008, -1/+6Wow, McCain is all in. He's gambling that he'll get credit for this mega-bailout/new tax.
- TheWriteGuy, on 09/25/2008, -3/+5McSame/Bailin' 2008
- 825143, on 09/25/2008, -2/+0hussein/binLAden 2008
- glutamate, on 09/25/2008, -0/+1binden?
- glutamate, on 09/25/2008, -0/+1binden?
...and surely if you're going to do that, Obama's name's similarity to Osama should be part of the joke?
- 825143, on 09/25/2008, -2/+0hussein/binLAden 2008
- helwa1988, on 09/25/2008, -2/+3well it's obvious this is a bluff by the McSame/Falin camp. I'm not surprised McSame tried some crap like this. It all started with McSame getting Palin out of the free forum deabtes.
Good that Obama is not agreeing to the McSame's requests. it's time for Mcsame to stop hiding and avoiding the debates. McSame needs to be a man and face Obama/Biden. Actions like these just make Obama look like the stronger candidate. - DigitalPimptres, on 09/25/2008, -1/+2Why all the stunts? I'm not interested in stunts. I've had enough stunts and poorly delivered jokes...
- DD2CC2U, on 09/25/2008, -3/+3This Bail Out is fishy. McCain and Bush are getting ready to do it to you one more time. Think of the Bail out as actually Bush and McCain has just raised your taxes .
- misfit410, on 09/25/2008, -0/+1Or cleaning up Clinton's mess.
Clinton- Financial Institutions need to end this dividing of classes, it's time that anyone can get a home loan regardless of credit history or how much the make!!!...
what's the worst that could happen? - ozel01, on 09/25/2008, -0/+1What?!?!! A liberal afraid of raising taxes?!?!?!?! I thought that was against your religion.
- misfit410, on 09/25/2008, -0/+1Or cleaning up Clinton's mess.
- definedbywords, on 09/25/2008, -1/+2Please contact Senator McCain and tell him you want a debate! http://www.johnmccain.com/Contact
- acknotSW, on 09/25/2008, -0/+1Yet another reason why people who decide to run for a higher office should be required to give up their current one.
Obama, McCain and Bydin should no longer be senators and Palin should no longer be governor of Alaska. These campaigns go on for damn near 2 years now and take up an incredible amount of time. How can you do what is supposed to be your full time job if take on another full time job? -
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