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McCain's New Palin Strategy: Blame The Media

huffingtonpost.com — John McCain's campaign on Wednesday angrily called for an end to questions about Sarah Palin's background, calling it a "faux media scandal designed to destroy the first female Republican nominee" for vice president.

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  • huntress58, on 09/03/2008, -33/+286Maybe they should have vetted her first, then the media wouldn't have to do their job. That's what they get for playing politics with the American voters and threatening the safety of all Americans.
    • RoroCo, on 09/03/2008, -9/+49You act like the Pubs weren't expecting this. They made this pick because there would be a backlash and they can play the sexism/victim/underdog cards. They are playing into the emotions of the American people with deceptive tactics. The only thing they probably didn't plan on was Obama avoiding the subject entirely and taking the high road. If he attacked her then they would have the experience argument change into a hypocrisy argument against him. As it is not, that is a one way street against McCain right now.

      I would bet that Palin actually steps down before the end of this month because of "family issues" at which point they would bring back Romney or eve Lieberman. If they do that though, the media will be all over this idea and it will fail.
      • grillcover, on 09/03/2008, -6/+29"...there would be a backlash and they can play the sexism/victim/underdog cards."

        one of manifold reasons. they will be tying the above in with the 'historical' nature of her nomination rather heavily. it seems clear they figured the best way to energize the base and young pubs was by throwing them, like lazy old dogs, the leftover scraps of 'history-making.'

        too bad the rest of us already live in a world where a black man runs for top dog, and hillary's valor in battle did more for women than palin might in her life.
      • thcobbs, on 09/03/2008, -18/+9Wait, so Hillary now ISNT the devil?

        Make up your minds!
      • MacEnvy, on 09/03/2008, -3/+17@thcobbs

        Why do you keep insisting that every Democrat is the same person? Not all of us were as vicious to Clinton as some of the more vocal diggers. We just didn't want her to be our nominee.
      • Charlotte_Web, on 09/03/2008, -15/+5I don't think there's any question that the media is leading the attack against Sarah Palin. It's well documented that the American media, by and large, leans heavily to the left.

        The NY Times ran THREE front page articles the other day on Palin's daughter (so much for the unwritten rule of leaving a candidate's kids out of the fray!) Katie Couric accused Governor Tim Pawlenty of spouting "GOP talking points" last night when he said that Pailn was more qualified than Obama (she currently manages an $11 BILLION budget and 24,000 state employees). The publisher of US Magazine has put a glowing cover story of Obama on two of his magazines (he's a major Obama donor); the latest cover story of US magazine is hard slam on Palin.

        I could go on and on and on and on...
      • laserdog, on 09/03/2008, -3/+11The media has a money bias, nothing more.
      • jwelchtex, on 09/03/2008, -2/+2Yes, you could. But don't.
      • OrigamiRonin, on 09/03/2008, -4/+12@Charlotte_Web

        "It's well documented that the American media, by and large, leans heavily to the left."

        No, it isn't. The media are sensationalist and lazy, but not nearly as liberal as you would like to believe. I'm sure you could go on, but if you start off with your own opinion as the basis for your argument then what's the point?

        Face it, McCain set up this scenario by choosing a relatively unknown person for a potentially important job. Yes, it's a circus, and yes, much of it is not really relevant. The same could be said of coverage related to all of the candidates over the last few months. Now it's Palin's turn.

        This is a time-honored Republican tactic. Whine about how unfair the "liberal" media is treating them. Change the subject from their decisions to how the media is treating them. I'm sure it couldn't possibly be the fact that maybe McCain made an error, it has to be the media.
    • StepCousin, on 09/03/2008, -46/+21You could say the same thing about Obama. He has so many skeletons, it's *****. The sad thing is the media has completely ignored them. They've known about his friendship/business relationship with the terrorist, William Ayers for 1.5 years, and they STILL won't report it. They won't report on his house that he bought on the same day as the convicted felon, Tony Resco, RIGHT NEXT DOOR. They won't discuss him selling cocaine when he was younger. They had to be DRAGGED, kicking and screaming to the story of the bigot church he attended for 20 years. THANK GOD FOR FOX NEWS!!

      WHERE THE HELL IS THE BALANCE, FFS??!!
      • deepthot42, on 09/03/2008, -12/+23I live next to a farm... does that make me a cow?

        I have nipples, could you milk me Greg?
      • neognostic, on 09/03/2008, -13/+19You could say the same thing about Obama. He has so many skeletons, it's *****. The sad thing is the media has completely ignored them. They've known about his friendship/business relationship with the terrorist, William Ayers for 1.5 years, and they STILL won't report it.
        * The Chicago Tribune investigated the issue and says that there is nothing interesting in the boxes of paperwork linking Ayers and Obama, they simply served on the same Board.
        They won't report on his house that he bought on the same day as the convicted felon, Tony Resco, RIGHT NEXT DOOR.
        * The Chicago Tribune investigated this issue for 10 YEARS and found nothing wrong, so they endorsed him.
        They won't discuss him selling cocaine when he was younger.
        * Then they should also discuss McCain having multiple affairs while married to his disabled wife.
        They had to be DRAGGED, kicking and screaming to the story of the bigot church he attended for 20 years.
        * Show me a single video where Rev. Wright said anything racists, I've seen them all, the phrase does not exist.

        THANK GOD FOR FOX NEWS!!
        * Home of the moronic viewer
      • SpacePoet, on 09/03/2008, -8/+16Those aren't skeletons, they are coincidences. No one cares that Obama knew Ayers, or Wright, they don't matter, Obama is his own man and that's pretty obvious, unless you have some proof that they've influenced him, which you don't, so your point is moot. You obviously know nothing about the Resco deal except what was spoon fed to you, if you ever dig into it you'll find out it's a non-issue. There is no record of cocaine sales, and that bigot church has done more for its community than a few words could hurt. It's obvious you are just full of hate for a man that has done nothing to deserve it.
      • uqdroma, on 09/03/2008, -14/+4"I live next to a farm... does that make me a cow?

        I have nipples, could you milk me Greg?"

        No it doesn't, but if you snort coke, it does make you a butterhead. That's the point they were trying to make. I'll take my digg down now.
      • StepCousin, on 09/03/2008, -9/+6Obama-bots are really stupid people. The guy is a used car salesman, FFS....just dripping *****.
      • OrigamiRonin, on 09/03/2008, -6/+5StepCousin, you don't help your own credibility when you strike upon every over-used talking point that has been handed down through the channels, refuse to listen to facts, and then accuse everyone else of being a robot.

        Neognostic answered your every point. Do you have facts that state otherwise? If so, share them. I'm all ears if anyone has a legitimate gripe about any of the candidates. No need to resort to name-calling.
      • StepCousin, on 09/03/2008, -3/+5neognostic quoted the Chicago Tribune. Reputable or not, they do not constitute the MSM.

        If Rush Limbaugh told you that the Palin rumors are *****, would you just accept it? No, of course you wouldn't.

        My point is that the MSM has flat attacked Palin. This DID NOT happen to Hussein, nor will it ever happen to any other Democrat candidate.

        My IQ is dropping just from furthering this conversation with you stupid ***** (no offense).
      • life036, on 09/03/2008, -5/+5StepCousin, you are a dumb inbred *****.

        The MSM is not "attacking" Palin, they are simply questioning her. No different than what they did to Obama.

        Now I would say that DIGG is attacking Palin, but I would hardly consider digg the MSM.

        Stop being such a whiney little bitch and go watch Fox News if you are so upset about it.
      • StepCousin, on 09/04/2008, -2/+3As a point of interest, a step-cousin is as far from 'inbred' as any relation, which is symbolic of my pure, unmolested DNA.
      • OrigamiRonin, on 09/04/2008, -4/+2StepCousin,

        You yourself have attacked Obama at every point. If that's your gig, fine, but I do have one question.

        You attacked the man using already discredit arguments.
        You attacked him by claiming that the media will never be tough on him, disregarding the fact that the very same media which carried on for weeks about Rev. Wright gives McCain a free pass when he gets actual facts mixed up.
        You highlight Obama's middle name as though I should be scared by someone with Hussein in their name.

        With that in mind, here's the question:
        What would be a fair line of questioning for Mrs. Palin? You seem to think she is being treated unfairly. Is it not appropriate to ask about how she lied or at least misrepresented her role in Federal earmarks for her home state? Is the fact that she is under investigation an off-limits subject? I will grant you that questions about her daughters pregnancy are irrelevant and stupid, but what CAN the media ask?

      • StepCousin, on 09/04/2008, -2/+2What was the question again?
      • OrigamiRonin, on 09/04/2008, -1/+2Didn't think you could come up with an answer.
      • StepCousin, on 09/04/2008, -1/+1Keep talking, *****. I'll gladly digg you down, and I know you don't want that.
      • TripMoon, on 09/04/2008, -1/+1All right, I have seen this inbred before, and no, we don't mean your name, you stupid *****, we mean your below 50 IQ. StepCousin is either paid to say this *****, or he as as inbred as hicks come. Go ***** a cow, slackjaw!
      • StepCousin, on 09/04/2008, -2/+1Who are "we"? Agents....like in "The Matrix"? A shared consciousness?

        You must think highly of me to assume somebody would pay me to insult you agents. Just for the record, that kind of flattery will get you absolutely nowhere with me.

        Actions speak louder than words. If you want to impress me, get on your knees and hunker down on Bobo.
      • TripMoon, on 09/04/2008, -1/+1Um, moron, I am talking about "we" as in thinking, rational people who care about this country. I know, in your limited, or paid, world, we must seem like a mysterious group of agents that care about this country and its people, as opposed to your selfish ass. Saying that you are akin to a political mercenary is no compliment to you. It is that your reasoning is so defective in light of the reality around you, I figure, you MUST be paid to say your *****, otherwise how do you lift a spoon to eat if you are so dimwitted??? Please eat with a bib, no one wants to see the ***** that comes out of your dirty mouth.
      • StepCousin, on 09/04/2008, -0/+1I have to apologize. Compliments always go right to my head. Next thing you know I'm parroting the compliment and jerking-off to myself in the mirror. All the while, the person who paid me the compliment is wondering what possessed him/her. Before you know it they're casting insults and digging me down (like you're doing right now).

        Let's start over. Hi, I'm StepCousin. How do you do?
    • proliance, on 09/03/2008, -28/+17In just one week Sara Palin has already been investigated more by the media than Barack Obama has in two years and she was thoroughly vetted by McCain. He knew about all these issues well in advance.

      The only thing about her that is "new" are the lies that media like HuffPo are spreading.

      /still waiting for HuffPo to issue a public apology for spreading the lie about Palin being her son's "grandmother."
      • madduck623, on 09/03/2008, -9/+15except that mccain campaign staff didnt start vetting her until a day before he asked her to be on the ticket
      • jdenzer, on 09/03/2008, -10/+10"...and she was thoroughly vetted by McCain..."
        HAHAHAHAHA,
        Stop please, that made me laugh so hard, my side hurts.
      • QuadZeroRoute, on 09/03/2008, -9/+8Sarah Palin was properly vetted: Palin Made an Impression From the Start

        http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/artic ...

        ST. PAUL, Minn., Aug. 30 -- Their first encounter was last February at the National Governors Association meeting in Washington. Sarah Palin was one of several governors who met privately with Sen. John McCain, by then well on his way to capturing the Republican presidential nomination, and her directness and knowledge were impressive.

        Later that day, at a largely social gathering organized by his campaign, McCain spent 15 minutes in private conversation with the first-term Alaska governor. "I remember him talking about her when he came back," a McCain adviser said. "He said she was an impressive woman. He liked her."

        But few people outside McCain's inner circle were privy to just how much of an impression Palin had made that day.

        In the months of speculation over whom McCain would pick as his vice presidential running mate, Palin's name occasionally surfaced but rarely as a serious choice. But by the time she arrived in Arizona last Wednesday to meet first with two top McCain advisers and then the next day with the candidate and his wife, Cindy, the job was hers to lose.

        "He was down to the point that if the meeting had gone well, and it was expected to go well, there was going to be an offer," said a senior adviser privy to the decision-making. "I don't think he would have invited her if it weren't his intention to offer her the job."

        Far from being a last-minute tactical move or a second choice when better known alternatives were eliminated, Palin was very much in McCain's thinking from the beginning of the selection process, according to McCain's advisers. The 44-year-old governor made every cut as the first list of candidates assembled last spring was slowly winnowed. The more McCain learned about her, the more attracted he was to her as someone who shared his maverick, anti-establishment instincts.

        "He looked at her like a kindred spirit," said one close adviser, who declined to be identified in order to speak more freely. "Someone who wasn't afraid to take tough positions."
      • wardawg31, on 09/03/2008, -5/+4They will not apologize. They are now asking for DNA proof.
    • QuadZeroRoute, on 09/03/2008, -24/+13Liberals howl that Palin has no experience, no qualifications to be president of the United States. But the lady has more executive experience than McCain, Joe Biden and Obama put together.

      None of them has ever started or run a business as Palin did. None of them has run a giant state like Alaska, which is larger than California and Texas put together. And though Alaska is not populous, Gov. Palin has as many constituents as Nancy Pelosi or Biden.

      Lets compare Gov. Palin’s executive experience as a governor who oversees 24,000 state employees, 14 statewide cabinet agencies and a $ 10 billion budget to Barack Obama’s experience as a one-term junior senator from Illinois.”

      She has no foreign policy experience, we are told. And though Alaska's neighbors are Canada and Russia, the point is valid. But from the day she takes office, Palin will get daily briefings and sit on the National Security Council with the president and secretaries of state, treasury and defense.

      She will be up to speed in her first year.

      And her experience as governor of Alaska, dealing with the oil industry and pipeline agreements with Canada, certainly compares favorably with that of Barack Obama, a community organizer who dealt in the mommy issues of food stamps and rent subsidies.

      Where Obama has poodled along with the Daley Machine, Palin routed the Republican establishment, challenging and ousting a sitting GOP governor before defeating a former Democratic governor to become the first female and youngest governor in state history.

      Gov. Sarah Palin is an exceptional governor with a record of accomplishment that exceeds, by far, the governing accomplishments of Sen. Obama. Her selection came after a six-month long rigorous vetting process where her extraordinary credentials and exceptionalism became clear. This vetting controversy is a faux media scandal designed to destroy the first female Republican nominee for vice president of the United States who has never been a part of the old boys' network that has come to dominate the news establishment in this country. Sen. McCain picked his governing partner after a long and thorough search. Gov. Palin looks forward to addressing the nation and laying out the fundamental choice this election represents for the American people.


      http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0908/13111.ht ...
      http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=7 ...
      • phoenixshard, on 09/03/2008, -4/+9Its the largest state in the union, but one of the least populated. Owning one's own business does not equate any experience to be a president, nor does running a city with at population of less than 10,000. The closest thing she has to any real experience is governor, of which she has less than 2. She has no experience on the national level at all. So say again on how she has all this vaunted experience.
      • darkstar949, on 09/03/2008, -4/+5It shouldn't take anyone that wants to be President or Vice President a year to get "up to speed" - they should be ready to go as soon as their hand drops after talking the Oath of Office.
      • MScrip, on 09/03/2008, -2/+7> "But the lady has more executive experience than McCain, Joe Biden and Obama put together."

        So why didn't Palin run for President? She's clearly more qualified than the other 3 people on the tickets.
      • WasabiBomb, on 09/03/2008, -3/+6"None of them has ever started or run a business as Palin did."

        Obama ran a non-profit, and improved it while he was in charge. How did Palin's car wash turn out, again?

        "None of them has run a giant state like Alaska, which is larger than California and Texas put together."

        The entire state of Alaska has less than 1/4 the population of Chicago.

      • MadKennyP, on 09/03/2008, -4/+5What a bunch of *****. And citing WND? Laughable. Might as well cite to a third grader's paper on "What I Did Over Summer Vacation."
      • videodroner, on 09/03/2008, -0/+4Oh, how quickly the liberals forget Geraldine Ferraro in '84, the first female to be nominated as VP for the democratic party. Same stuff, different party, and she actually turned out to be very competent and impressed everyone with her ongoing relations with politics.

        Hypocrites.
      • 5urr3al5am, on 09/04/2008, -0/+2@QuadZeroRoute -- excellent post! You sort of summed it up very nicely.
    • illinoisgirl, on 09/03/2008, -18/+8I am an American voter and I do not agree with you. I was a democrat until Hillary was forced out of the race bunch of LOSERS: Pelosi, Dean, Obama, Kerry, and Gore. I voted for Obama because he appeared smart, promising, and a graduate of the Harvard Law School. Unfortunately, during his term in the Senate, he has not done anything to make himself worthy of my vote. He became so wrapped with preparing for presidency. The same thing they did to Hillary, they are using it full force on Palin. To avoid all this mess, Obama should have been vetted. Then, he would not have made it even to the primaries. He is created himself :he put together sections of his past that would appeal to the gullible; the DNC packaged him, and Hollywood marketed him. It is a shame, what has happened to America?
      • DuneChild, on 09/03/2008, -3/+1Yeah, who do these Democrats think they are? How dare they put forth a candidate with very little foreign policy experience, had a drug and alcohol problem in his youth, and ran for president before many knew who he was?

        /s
      • uqdroma, on 09/03/2008, -3/+2100% agreed and dugg
      • MacEnvy, on 09/03/2008, -2/+2That's the biggest load of crap I've ever heard. A whole lot of words with nothing to back them up.

        You're upset that Hillary lost (LOST! Not kicked out, LOST!), so why the hell did you vote for Obama instead of her? You have no one to blame but yourself if that's the case - but I doubt it is, because I doubt someone that stupid can work a computer.

        More likely, you're a sockpuppet for a keyboard-wielding Republican desperate to provide the world with yet another falsified data point regarding Democratic unrest.

        If that isn't the case, then I just plain feel sorry for you. It sounds like you've fallen for the baloney they spew over at HillaryIs44. Pity that otherwise rational people can get swept up in such untrue foolishness.
      • 5urr3al5am, on 09/04/2008, -1/+2@illionisgirl -- thats an excellent point...
    • jabberwolf, on 09/03/2008, -10/+4Obama can't even be vetted for staying in a racist church for 20 ***** years but you're going after a possible VP's daughter?!?!?!?! That is ok?!

      I think people are dropping from the democrats because the stench is becoming so great, not because they like republicans.
      • laserdog, on 09/03/2008, -2/+5Yeah, can you believe how Obama announced that that Palin's daughter was pregnant like that?

        Seems pretty insensitive to her family.

        I mean, no one would willingly want to put that sort of spotlight on their children.
      • life036, on 09/04/2008, -2/+1How the ***** was his church racist? Questioning the government and telling the truth is racist?
    • Treoinmypocket, on 09/03/2008, -8/+2All this "vetting" talk is hysterical. Tell me exactly who we're vetting again?

      -The kid with Downe's Syndrome or the kid whose pregnant?

      At least Biden's corrupt son is an adult.

      Or was it the fact that Palin is a woman and shouldn't be working because...you know...she has kids. I mean women with kids can't work!

      Oh man this is great. I say bring it on. The backlash against all this is going to be sweet. Palin isn't going to quit...she's going to stay in and help McCain into the White House.
      • DuneChild, on 09/03/2008, -2/+1Well, since the press knew nothing about this woman before last Friday, they're playing an extreme game of catch-up. We've been talking about the flaws of the other candidates for over two years now, so it doesn't seem like that much dirt has been brought up on them. As far as the daughter WHO'S pregnant, Palin brought it up, not the media. She also slashed the budget on a program dedicated to helping unwed pregnant women and teens, so I think the situation is slightly relevant, although that is not really why it's being covered.

        While the McCain campaign may have vetted their VP choice, that does not mean we take their word for it when they say she's qualified. The press is simply doing their job in giving us as much information as possible on which to base our decision on whom to vote for. Okay, so not all of the information the press brings up is relevant or important, but they do not, nor should they, make that decision for us. Keep in mind Gov. Palin is brand new to most people, thus, everything about her is news.
      • reastydirtstar, on 09/04/2008, -0/+1@dunechild

        "The press is simply doing their job in giving us as much information as possible..."

        Yes, provided the information bashes mccain and palin and their family at every opportunity and supports obama whenever possible. there certainly is an abundance of that information. The only 1% that tells the other side of the story is from fox news
    • cheese06, on 09/03/2008, -8/+3You guys talking about her stepping down because of all the drama is hogwash. This has been the best campaign decision by the maverick Senator in a long while.

      She is energizing the Republican base (whether you like it or not) who have been over time, quite disenfranchised, especially with McCain, since he is seen as a moderate by the right.

      Many Republican insiders are giddy with the media attention, as it is waking up the Republican party. The more media antagonism towards Palin, the bigger the backlash.
    • BuboTitan, on 09/04/2008, -9/+5HOLY M***** OF G**!!!!

      HOW MANY ***** HUFF PO STORIES DO WE NEED TO HAVE ON DIGG??

      THERE ARE OTHER WEB SITES IN THE WORLD YOU KNOW!!!
    • worldpeacenow, on 09/04/2008, -3/+3Where were the outraged Republican women when Hillary was being 'bashed'?

      Let's make this election a referendum on idiocy.
      • Treoinmypocket, on 09/04/2008, -0/+2Oh they were there. Applauding.

        Clinton stood by her philandering husband for the sake of power. Not really being bashed so much as being rejected.
    • 2612, on 09/04/2008, -0/+2They DID vet her. They knew about the teen pregnancy and the DUI and troopergate. The media is just pissed that they did not get to vet her. They were left out of the loop and so they are getting bitchy about it.
  • GoneGreen, on 09/03/2008, -35/+172John McCain must think that the American people are as stupid as he is. That's the real entertaining part about all of this, we get to see just how dumb he is and from his blissful view it's someone else's fault.
    • algaeturd, on 09/03/2008, -7/+33All you have to do is look at the past 8 years and you'll see proof positive that much of America is as stupid as McCain or more so. These people don't concern themselves with truth, facts or figures. They run on hypocrisy, they run on lies, they're fueled by lies...THESE people will buy anything you're selling as long as you say it's 'for America.'
      But even for this pack of liars and cheats, trying to justify Palin's attempt at secession is a hard one. A REALLY hard one to justify as 'patriotic.'
      • ender7074, on 09/03/2008, -28/+3Wow guess we cant all be as enlightened as you ***** sitting in your parents basement can we? Elitist *****.
      • Antitheft, on 09/03/2008, -3/+15I agree 100%. It is proof-positive that most voters are retarded. Here is the proof: Bush was re-elected. End of discussion.
      • life036, on 09/04/2008, -1/+4@ ender7074

        No, you can't be as enlightened as us, you trailer trash piece of *****.
      • Groblisk, on 09/04/2008, -1/+1HEY BUDDY

        I CAN READ, OKAY?
        GO AMERICA!
      • TripMoon, on 09/04/2008, -0/+1@ender : an enlightened conservative is an oxymoron.
    • billbugger, on 09/03/2008, -5/+14It's not that the American people are stupid, it's that their uninformed and many choose to remain that way... until now. The American public is a strong and powerful group, and I believe we Americans are finally waking up. This is the first Presidential election which you can choose your news source instead of relying on the MSM to tell you their points of view.

      algaeturd almost hit my point.
    • SpacePoet, on 09/03/2008, -2/+11Although America is filled with idiots, i feel many of them have had enough and will tip the scales this round. Unfortunately, that's the best we can do at this time. If Obama is elected and can manage to slow down this train wreck, he will be an astounding success.
    • spekesel, on 09/03/2008, -5/+5Poor Grumpy McCain, I love seeing old farts throw their toys outta their prams when they get upset. So cute.
    • MadEnvoy, on 09/03/2008, -6/+7"John McCain must think" - error in your logic.
    • jabberwolf, on 09/03/2008, -6/+1Wait Obama can play the lead victim in every ***** story?
      But going after Palin's daughter is ok?

      Are you kidding me?!!!!
      • billbugger, on 09/03/2008, -0/+1They're not going after her daughter, they're going after her.
      • FairDinkumMate, on 09/03/2008, -0/+1Oh jabberwolf - you're writing your crap again!

        Obama made the time & effort to speak out AGAINST involving Palin's daughter in any of this. Did you miss that bit?
    • Cuchanu, on 09/03/2008, -1/+2Too bad for McCain Palin was never a POW, huh.
    • skealoha86, on 09/04/2008, -0/+3This is a political move - don't take any of what McCain says personally! He and his team are just manipulating you.
    • bobh1234, on 09/04/2008, -1/+0You're a moron
    • 33PercentGod, on 09/04/2008, -0/+2It's very interesting to me how it's going to run in America from now on. The younger people are growing up with the internet,a place of free speech,and know exactly how the politicians *****,flop between arguments,lie out of their ass,and see what the police do in response to "peaceful protests". I hope this generation grows up being less naive,more hostile to their representatives,and a LOT more people taking advantage of our 2nd amendment.

      Lord knows we need it.
  • jasonspurlock, on 09/03/2008, -32/+53Here's a link to Palin's prophetic justice from her own hometown!

    http://digg.com/political_opinion/Palin_s_Death_Ra ...

    Digg it!
  • logicaldog, on 09/03/2008, -23/+58Have your usual grampy temper tantrum
    • redrumred, on 09/03/2008, -0/+2thanks for making me rethink wearing depends
  • HopeMonger, on 09/03/2008, -28/+111People are starting to see through this, How many times has john McCain blamed the Media now? Every time something goes bad it is the media.
    • Dustee, on 09/03/2008, -6/+38He was upset when he thought his campaign wasn't getting enough attention and said they were all on the tank for Obama.

      Well he got what he asked for...media coverage.
    • jaxontyler, on 09/03/2008, -1/+13Haha. If every politician could tell the media to quit looking into their past. ROFL.
    • muckemuck, on 09/03/2008, -2/+4Apparently the Republican voters don't see through it. They're lapping it up and rallying around their man. Ugh.

      The media handed him the nomination and it's continuing to build his "support". Lovely.
    • dmoore764, on 09/03/2008, -0/+2Don't bite the hand that feeds you
    • TripMoon, on 09/04/2008, -0/+0Yes, we should see it this way(which the clueless conservatives don't): Media = the will of the American people.
  • TheDarkstarter, on 09/03/2008, -26/+99So McNugget "called for an end to questions about Sarah Palin's background". How dare we question his judgment. How dare we question the decisions he's making that potentially effect our nation.
    • ender7074, on 09/03/2008, -21/+4Well, we're not allowed to question the Lord and Savior Obama's judgment. I mean, camon, he is close personal friends with racists, terrorists, and criminals but thats ok right?
      • letherial, on 09/03/2008, -3/+2its sad when somone is calling a black man racist....

        i mean, realy? lol
      • NinjaGod, on 09/03/2008, -0/+6@letherial

        I've noticed black people are a hell of a lot more racist the anyone else I've seen. They constantly call white people cracker and white boy/chick. How is that not racist? Call a black person a ***** and see how many people jump on your ass.

        Personally, I just want it all to stop. This is ***** 2008, people need to grow the hell up.
      • livewyre718, on 09/03/2008, -0/+2"Well, we're not allowed to question the Lord and Savior Mccain's judgment. I mean, camon, he is close personal friends with racists, terrorists, and criminals but thats ok right?"

        fixed that for you.

      • robgarbo, on 09/04/2008, -0/+1Warning: The comment from ender7074 in this Thread May be Inaccurate
      • TripMoon, on 09/04/2008, -0/+0What planet are you on, moron? You slipped into a different parallel dimension from which you came. Here, most conservatives are *****, we've had eight years of hell, and McDumbass lovers want to continue it. Does that bring you up-to-date? I am sure you have a rational mind, don't you?
    • southwestnut, on 09/03/2008, -16/+4http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b120/cwillow894/ ...
      • dafragsta, on 09/03/2008, -1/+1I don't think anyone said anything about Obama. Anyone who questions the Sarah Houssein Palin is sexist and unfair?
      • southwestnut, on 09/03/2008, -0/+1idea being that lefty wenies cry everytime someone questions obama

        woooooshhhh.................... right over your head
    • xine13, on 09/03/2008, -1/+12He was a POW dammit!!!
    • chr00t, on 09/03/2008, -1/+5McNugget...lol
    • omegared, on 09/03/2008, -1/+4last time i checked Obama is always being questioned about his experience and who he associates with. Guess you have not been watching the news. As McCain had questions asked to him how he should appeal to blacks like obama has about him appealing to whites? As McCain been questioned for leaving the country to visit other countries like obama was when he went to europe?
      • nalen33, on 09/04/2008, -0/+2The problem with what you're saying is that it's simply not true. Obama has never been asked the kinds of questions about his relationships with certain people and about who he associated with because it was deemed inconsequential and wrong -grasping for straws if you will- by his supporters, many of whom are in the very media that is now in a full court press pulling stories out of their asses about Palin. They can ask her questions and make accusations without solid proof, yet when the same was being done to Obama by Fox and other right-wing media outlets and blogs, they cried about it the same way. It's a double standard that many are simply denying or ignoring, and it's got to stop eventually.
      • omegared, on 09/06/2008, -0/+1did you see when they talked about if obama is black enough?
        his pastor? how he can not appeal to white working people. What have they question here about? experience? which as been asked to obama.

        Has she been compared to Hitler, called a fascist by people like glen beck, coming out with a magazine cover with obama next to Mussolini, while at the same time condemning anyone that makes fun of bush?

        so what question that is inappropriate as been asked?
    • BufordT, on 09/03/2008, -0/+3"McNugget" are you serious? Have you people completely given up on your un-crafty Mc____ names.
    • TedLW30101, on 09/03/2008, -0/+3It worked for Obama, didn't it?
    • bigstinky, on 09/04/2008, -0/+2Hey Buford, how about McDumbass? How about McStupidpointyfinger? Or even McWhatthehellwasIthinkingbychoosingPalinasmyveep? I could go on all day, but my stupidity could never match the stupidity McCain would bring to this once great country...You know, the one decimated by BUSHCO?
  • traitorjoe, on 09/03/2008, -44/+4Here's a preview of Sarah Palin's speech tonight... http://traitorjoe.wordpress.com

  • FlaG8r, on 09/03/2008, -18/+84They lashed out at the media and last night CNN lashed back.
  • ZeroCubed, on 09/03/2008, -18/+54I love how many republicans will blame anyone but themselves for any sort of attack and disadvantage against them, or mistake they made. Any of them have the guts to say "Oops, sorry, I messed up SO bad"?
    • 4mytroops, on 09/03/2008, -14/+6Sounds like the pot calling the kettle black.
    • enuary, on 09/04/2008, -0/+1Yeah you're right, republicans are the only party that behave like that.
    • gmdmartyr, on 09/04/2008, -0/+3You mean like Obama saying "Oops, sorry, I was wrong, the surge worked, my Bad"?
  • DeadFox1, on 09/03/2008, -14/+40I predict this makes the front page in 3.......2..........1............kaZOW.
  • Hillsfar, on 09/03/2008, -28/+165
    Aww!!!! Hey c'mon guys! Let up! Senator John Sidney McCain III was a POW for six years! He's earned the Presidency and should be allowed to pick whomever he wants as his running mate without question!

    Nothing else compares to the six years of torture he suffered in Vietnam! If the guy wants to select a MILF for VP, it's his business!

    So what if he has 7 or 10 houses? When he was in Vietnam, he had no house. He didn't even have a kitchen table or a chair to sit at!

    So what if he left his first wife for a beauty pageant contestant and heir to a beer fortune? Wouldn't you if you could get away with it?

    So what if he votes with Bush 90 to 95 percent of the time? He never got to vote during those 6 years!

    So what if Fox News gives him favorable coverage? When McCain was in 'Nam, he didn't have a TV even!

    To be against McCain is to be un-patriotic, flag burnin', hummus-eating, tofu-grilling, bio-diesel hybrid driving Commies! To vote for Obama and Biden would be to make McCain and Palin whine, "They took our yobs!!"

    And we wouldn't want to take away their "yobs", would we, my fellow red-blooded Americans?

    As Sarah Palin would say, "Yup yup!"
    • DeadFox1, on 09/03/2008, -2/+14dugg you up for the last sentence. lol
    • Nothlit, on 09/03/2008, -21/+4"So what if he votes with Bush 90 to 95 percent of the time? He never got to vote during those 6 years!"

      Since when is the President of the United States allowed to vote in the Senate?
      • Hillsfar, on 09/03/2008, -0/+2Gee, nitpicky aren'tcha? He never got to vote at all in any election during those 6 years.
    • sinrtb, on 09/03/2008, -4/+33just a quick FYI McCain was not tortured he was submitted to enhanced interrogation, at least according to the current views of MCBush
      • uqdroma, on 09/03/2008, -12/+0Uhm, McCain has always stood up against Bush on torture. Get your facts straight.
      • Hillsfar, on 09/03/2008, -0/+10Not true, uqdroma. He backed down. Read up!
      • uqdroma, on 09/03/2008, -8/+0"Not true, uqdroma. He backed down. Read up!"

        Maybe he did, but as president he will give the dems their day on the issue...Trust that. One of the reasons people run for President is that they can do more to effect change. And I just simply belive he can more than Obama. Even if he only lives for two more years, he can still do more in that regard than Obama can in 4-8. He has a publicly proven record of bipartisanship, that is what Lieberman has been trying to bring back to light. It used to be in the light, ask Hillary and Biden.
      • bigstinky, on 09/04/2008, -0/+4uqdroma..."Even if he only lives for two more years, he can still do more in that regard than Obama can in 4-8."

        How so? Please explain this to me. Or is it just more empty Republican rhetoric?

        What has he done? WHAT? What leads you to believe this non voting, except to match Bushies lead, can do to help our country?

        Is he going to call Bush for advice, or will he have a little Cheney magic eightball?

        Go on with your bad republi-self...Puff out your chest and spew your *****. I can show you 8 years of true republican garbage, and you want 4 more years? Or better yet, the 2 you're expecting from McCain.
    • turion64, on 09/03/2008, -3/+9I sense an upcoming slew of "McCain POW" jokes, similar to the ones we've heard for Chuck Norris.

      "So what if Fox News gives him favorable coverage? When McCain was in 'Nam, he didn't have a TV even!"
    • gotacalc, on 09/03/2008, -4/+9Why hesitate to make McCain our next president? When he was a POW, he didn't get to be one.
    • yarnedia, on 09/03/2008, -0/+10... and don't forget, he's a MAVERICK!!!
    • Pandatot, on 09/03/2008, -0/+6If eating hummus is wrong I don't want to be right.
    • AverageJane2, on 09/04/2008, -0/+35-1/2 years but who's counting...
  • reallyandrea, on 09/03/2008, -13/+38Republican women are on C-SPAN right now - 2:35pm ET - saying that the media is biased against Palin. They're blaming Obama for what newspapers print and what the media reports.
    • cadmiumpaint, on 09/03/2008, -5/+18those women are most prob "fall in line" and "do what your told" republicans.
  • kingofinternet, on 09/03/2008, -26/+189to quote the bard, chris rock:

    THE MEDIA DIDN'T ***** YOUR DAUGHTER AND GET HER PREGNANT!
    • kingofinternet, on 09/03/2008, -5/+40WHEN YOU HAVE SEX, THE MEDIA DOESN'T COME IN AND TAKE YOUR CONDOMS AWAY!
      • kingofinternet, on 09/03/2008, -3/+21also,

        BOOKS ARE LIKE KRYPTONITE TO REPUBLICANS
      • kingofinternet, on 09/03/2008, -9/+10"I TAKE CARE OF MY KIDS!"

        WHAT YOU WANT? A COOKIE?

        so, using chris rock's logic, we have the first black man running for president, and the first ***** running for vice president.

        historical times, folks.
    • WafflesID, on 09/03/2008, -5/+10You sure about that? Giraldo is sure looking like he's been hanging out with pedobear...
    • billbugger, on 09/03/2008, -1/+16THE GOVERNMENT CAN'T TURN THE T.V. OFF FOR YOU
      • Nothlit, on 09/03/2008, -15/+5I nearly fell off my seat when Obama said that last week, because he sure seems to think the government can do just about everything else for me...
      • TripMoon, on 09/04/2008, -0/+0With a worthless Bush presidency, it makes sense you would feel that way..
    • Danjuro, on 09/03/2008, -14/+5That is a lovely little slice of shockingly anti-liberal thinking. It is sexism to suggest that she should be following her daughter everywhere, after all, any good mother should throw away their career and micro-manage their children's lives. Right?

      Many stay at home parents would be unable to prevent their child from having sex. It is completely illogical to assume that this is all Sarah Palin's fault. Maybe the media and comedians and actors and.. hell, EVERYONE should crucify the daughter. It wouldn't surprise me if they sunk that low. You people need to learn to think for yourselves.
      • isleepyx3, on 09/03/2008, -4/+8you're a ***** idiot if you think it's not the parents' fault that their kid becomes a teenage mother/father. i'm sure people in alaska have heard of condoms.
      • kingofinternet, on 09/03/2008, -1/+9i blame palin for deciding to run for vp, subjecting her family to this sort of scrutiny, while bristol obviously needs a mother right now.

        and now they're trotting out the father and bristol like props, for who?
        for the media.
      • Gutterpunk, on 09/03/2008, -0/+2"You people need to learn to think for yourselves" as long as you don't think that parents should raise their kids and not farm them out and hope for the best. Oh and as long as you don't think that sex ed is important in our day & age, and don't forget to use all that new found thinking by yourselves skills for something else than thinking that someone who makes terrible choices in her personal life might do the same in her work.

        Bunch of sheeple!
      • bman1984, on 09/03/2008, -0/+1this has more to do with ***** abstinence being taught, which is what palin supports.
      • DuneChild, on 09/03/2008, -0/+0@bman1984 - Exactly!

        Although I can't believe the Republicans agree with the D.A.R.E program. After all, if you teach kids about drugs, they're all going to want to run out and use them!
    • Cuchanu, on 09/03/2008, -0/+4'husband-to-be' is Republican code word for BOYFRIEND. You are either engaged, married, going out, or *****.

      Just had to throw that out there... I wish some of the media would set that straight.
      • scrotumbrau, on 09/04/2008, -0/+1Just for the record, I'm ***** (too bad it's myself damnit...)
      • Cuchanu, on 09/04/2008, -0/+1Thanks for setting the record straight, scrotumbrau.
  • algaeturd, on 09/03/2008, -24/+56The republicans have absolutely no spine, heart or brain between the lot of them.
    The fact that they used the media machine full steam ahead to spread known lies about Obama for a year is proof positive of their blatant hypocrisy. EVERY candidate is under scrutiny and the proof is on the front page of every paper and website for the past year. Just because McCain chose a questionable, unqualified candidate they want it to be a 'hands off' approach?
    Don't tell the American people the truth about this woman? Don't air her dirty laundry? Don't show her weaknesses to the voters?
    ALL of these things are 100% important in deciding who you will vote for. This is a blatant attempt at cover up and nothing else...business as usual for a party of hypocrites and scoundrels.
    • alpharaptor, on 09/03/2008, -2/+7both parties are equally spineless, they're comprised of giant amorphous blobs whose grunts and hisses are loosely interpreted as pandering and selling out to the highest bidder. it is widely known that humans can and have infiltrated their breed. if one were found out, the amorphous blob-like creatures revert to low tactics including, blaming the humans on the deterioration of their blob-sciety, not supporting bills they also happen to oppose, and pointing out an absence of patriotic paraphernalia. oddly enough flag pins and buttons do not adhere properly to their own gelatinous forms.
  • LouiseCalabro, on 09/03/2008, -18/+3ABSOLUTELY!
  • fromaworld, on 09/03/2008, -47/+26There we go... I was wondering what happened to the flood of anti-Palin stories.

    I guess the hobos finally woke up this afternoon and started digging the Huffington Post stories.
    • jetboyterp, on 09/03/2008, -11/+12You know they didn't shower or go to work...they're recovering from all the bong hits they did last night.
  • ironhide, on 09/03/2008, -20/+76Don't criticize her she's a WOMAN! I love the hypocrisy coming from the folks who accused Obama of using the race card.
    • AverageJane2, on 09/04/2008, -0/+2They would have gone for a puppy if they could have qualified it..
    • sideffects, on 09/04/2008, -1/+1Seriously what's with all the douchebags? And about her pregnant daughter, I thought liberals were all for sex before marriage or whatever. The hypocrites. Here's the deal, the GOP has an amazing VP candidate and they are scared shatless.
      • Pigeon, on 09/04/2008, -1/+1lol.

        I don't care about her daughter. I care about the fact that her OWN daughter proves that her own policies DO NOT WORK.
      • sideffects, on 09/04/2008, -0/+1@Pigeon

        How does that prove her policies don't work?
      • person425, on 09/04/2008, -0/+1Sarah Palin (and McCain) believe in abstinence only education, which prevents teachers from teaching kids how to properly use birth control. All studies show that this greatly increases the chances of accidental pregnancy, and Sarah Palin's daughter is living proof of that.

        I'm not sure about you, but where I come from (an extremely liberal area) accidental pregnancy isn't "normal".

        This whole thing has given me perspective on why conservatives hate abortion so much. Getting abortions as a quick fix to solving these accidents is a pretty sick thing to do if these accidents are normal and happen fairly frequently. I mostly just see it in the context of rape or failed birth control (very rare), which is why I will always be pro choice.
    • rodrigo74, on 09/04/2008, -0/+1Pretty much everyone here on Digg would also be criticizing if it were a Joe Palin, creationist, anti-choice, inexpressive, unknown ultra-unexperienced guy from Wasilla, Alaska, don't worry. Sex has nothing to do with how much Palin sux, and how screwed we will be if they are elected and McCain happen to die during his term.

      Can you imagine Sarah Palin having a balls-out, eye-to-eye crisis talk with the likes of Putin, Ahmadinejad or even Chavez? They will chew her in pieces before she even has a chance to say "hello I am just a hockey mom".

      Well, at least McCain found someone who can read the teleprompter, alright. She really brought the speech written by Bush's speech writer to life!
  • ebolaworld, on 09/03/2008, -19/+65This has always been the Republican strategy. Hence the so called "Liberal Media".
    • deleo, on 09/03/2008, -5/+7The McCain campaign is just trying to bully the media, and say "shut up and stop investigating". The sad fact is some of them will, and they will fall in line.
    • Ebonsteel, on 09/03/2008, -1/+10Yeah - you gotta love that "liberal" media that is owned by ultra-right-wing GOPers and billion dollar international corporations. What tree-huggers.

      /sarcasm
  • AmericanParty, on 09/03/2008, -45/+29Huffpo Spam...buried
    • MadKennyP, on 09/03/2008, -3/+7Looks like few people agree.
    • starscream45, on 09/03/2008, -0/+4Check this out, EVERY story on Digg's front page is about McCain or Palin!

      http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Gov_Palin_is_on_ ...
    • treehugger87, on 09/04/2008, -2/+1Hmmm, AmericanParty has got the the new Digg account but the same old tired spam. Somebody must have gotten a new computer from all their McCain points and fired up the new account. I'd say good to see you, but I'd be lying.
  • JK1150, on 09/03/2008, -44/+23how long have the dems been blaming fox news for their problems?
    • kingmanic, on 09/03/2008, -8/+18I don't think they blame them for the problems with America directly. I think they blame them for creating people who don't have an accurate picture of the world and thus make the wrong decisions which cause these problems.
      • JK1150, on 09/03/2008, -14/+3i meant for the problems they have with their party, not America's problems as a whole.
      • uqdroma, on 09/03/2008, -5/+1Pot, Kettle, Black
    • FredFredrickson, on 09/03/2008, -7/+23Dems don't blame Fox news for their problems... they blame it for being a completely biased, propaganda-pushing piece of trash, and rightly so.
      • Gutterpunk, on 09/03/2008, -1/+2This ^
      • sideffects, on 09/04/2008, -2/+2If you don't like it, then don't watch it, douchebag. So, it's biased...isn't NPR?
      • FredFredrickson, on 09/04/2008, -0/+1No, NPR is the voice of the people. They do in-depth reviews of all the candidates, and I've heard some pretty biting remarks towards both sides there.
    • SpacePoet, on 09/03/2008, -10/+4For as long as they have been disinformating sacks of *****, so pretty much forever.
  • Vanzetti, on 09/03/2008, -21/+46Can the McCain campaign get any more hilarious? You don't even need to make jokes about it because it's golden as is!
    • rjyanj, on 09/03/2008, -4/+10Agreed. This is all very hilarious stuff.

      I find myself watching Fox News and listening to Sean Hannity just because it's so ***** funny. I find it hard to believe that these people really believe the ***** they're spouting. Oh and the dodging of questions when the media isn't as favorable and coddling as the Republicans would like is classic.
    • bman1984, on 09/03/2008, -2/+2Fox news makes me laugh more than comedy central, at least until South Park returns.
  • pintomp3, on 09/03/2008, -20/+88reality has a well-known liberal bias.
  • AndrewDB, on 09/03/2008, -20/+47McCain wanted the media spotlight, now that he and his VP choice have it, they want out of it.

    Would they make up their mind? They even flip and flop on how much they want to be in the media!
    • BufordT, on 09/03/2008, -0/+3I have to disagree with you on this one, McCain wanted the media spotlight and is now reveling in it. He needed someone to bring out the right wing base of the Republican party, and he got it. Sure he wanted to throw in a few pissed off Hillary supporters, but he knows without the base he doesn't stand a chance. The base was letting attacks on McCain just go in one ear and out the other because he is so far to the center of right. They now see attacks on Palin as attacks on one of their own, and they are uniting behind both candidates. The Democrats should not get too excited about McCain "screwing up, and not vetting properly" because she has ignited a fire in the base almost overnight.
  • minnull, on 09/03/2008, -16/+31"angrily called for an end to questions".. I suppose using finesse didn't work for him.
  • mobbo, on 09/03/2008, -17/+48Ya, it's the media... even though the McCain campaign repeatedly refuses to give interviews to explain things. Its easier to blame the media than it is to sit down and talk about it. Obama faced all of the accusations against him, even the ridiculous ones from emails I still get, and McCain can't even face Larry King?

    Pussies.
  • Nintendesert, on 09/03/2008, -27/+20Spam Digg. That's how you win elections!
    • y2kboy23, on 09/03/2008, -4/+7Edit: Spam Digg with incorrect info. That's how you win elections!
    • QuadZeroRoute, on 09/03/2008, -0/+6Yea that worked for Ron Paul too remember.
  • xmjwx, on 09/03/2008, -14/+18POW right in the kisser
    • publiclurker, on 09/03/2008, -2/+6"When I was a POW, there was no kissing"

      McCain
      • fluxion, on 09/03/2008, -0/+3"when i was a POW, they'd throw us in POW camps for kissing, where they'd throw us in POW camps for kissing, where they'd throw us in POW camps for kissing...

        oh i'm sorry....yes i like bananas. wait, what was the question?"
      • Rudegar, on 09/03/2008, -0/+2not much of an advanced interrogation techniques they had then :P
  • ericjohnson0, on 09/03/2008, -35/+23PuffHo Spam- Buried.
  • RC212V, on 09/03/2008, -22/+64What goes around comes around. The Republicans have been spreading smears about Democratic candidates for years. Obama is a Muslim, Obama doesn't recite the pledge of allegiance, Obama wasn't born here, etc. How about the swiftboating of Kerry or the witch hunts with Clinton.

    Yet now that the media dogs of hell hath been loosed upon one of their own they cry foul. Tough luck, you should have vetted her more thoroughly before picking her. And maybe if you didn't allow your party to be defined by the tactics of men like Karl Rove you wouldn't be on the receiving end of the attacks.
    • BufordT, on 09/03/2008, -0/+5You're right, the MSM has always been so kind to Republicans. It's almost disguisting how positively they report on Bush, Reagan and so on.
  • jetboyterp, on 09/03/2008, -35/+22Oh lookey! Even MORE anti-Palin crapola.

    The media has their collective tongue so far up Obama's arse it's not funny. Just ask Keith Olberdouche.

    In the last few days, there's been story after story...all LIES...about Sarah Palin and her family. You leftie-loos will believe anything you want to hear. That's why you tools have Obama as your nominee...you know, Obama...the guy with NO experience.

    And he's not running against Palin. You leftists are scared to death of her. You know full well that Palin on the McCain ticket is your death knell.

    • fuzzynyanko, on 09/03/2008, -10/+11Do us a favor and start naming these lies, so we know which talking points to ignore.
      • jetboyterp, on 09/03/2008, -13/+8Well, to start...

        That Palin covered for her daughter's pregnancy and claimed to have given birth to the Down-syndrome baby...

        That Palin cut funding to pregnant teens in her state...

        That Palin was a member of the Independence Party in Alaska...

        The list is on-going...all lies.
      • johnhummel, on 09/03/2008, -1/+111. There were obviously oddities in the pregnancy story, including a daughter that looked "puffier" than people expected. So the Palin group had to reveal "OK - the daughter *is* pregnant *now*, not before."

        Oh. So a woman who is anti-abortion even in cases of rape and incest, who has stated that she would not fund any sexual education except for "abstinence" has a teen pregnant daughter - and we're not suppose to think something odd.

        Turns out, there *was* something odd going on, and while the final answer was off, there was smoke, and it lead to a fire.

        2. She did cut funding for pregnant teens with a line item veto:

        http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/09 ...

        3. Most responsible people aren't claiming she was an active member of the Independence Party - but she certainly supported the groups and their message:

        http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-aip3-20 ...

        Then the "oh, I didn't want the bridge to nowhere" - but she kept the money after it became a money scandal. Then there's the Troopergate issue.

        So there's clearly some issues. Maybe she's a nice person. But this stuff should have been out in the news *months* ago, before people said "Sarah who", instead of having all of these dump on the week that she's introduced - that's just bad timing.
      • jetboyterp, on 09/03/2008, -4/+1@johnHummel

        No no...PAlin did not cut funding for pregnant teens...look again. She cut the INCREASE from 5 million to 3.9 million. She increased spending by 3.9 million.
      • Gutterpunk, on 09/03/2008, -0/+3jetboyterp : Source? The linked invoice is not for increases, this is the minute from the State's budget. To call it an "increase" because the 5 millions was more than the what the program got in the previous budget is a fallacy.

        Turns out that *all* of you so called "lies" were in fact truths. Isn't it time that you stop drinking the cool aid and do you own researchs?
    • billbugger, on 09/03/2008, -5/+5How is she the deatch knell? Because she's a woman?
      • jetboyterp, on 09/03/2008, -4/+4No...

        Because she simply has the appeal to unite the party base...and the undecideds.

        But you must agree with Joe Biden, when he said Obama was the "first clean, bright, articulate African-American candidate", right?

        Or was it when Biden said that Obama didn't have the experience for the Presidency...that the position didn't lend itself to "on the job training"...
    • Aadain, on 09/03/2008, -7/+7I give your trolling attempt a 2/10. I can see what you are trying to do, but it is so far from reality that it can't be believed. Try focusing more on small trolls, those usually hook more people.
      • jetboyterp, on 09/03/2008, -3/+4Ummm...correct me if I'm wrong...but doesn't a "troll" just interject a quick, controversial comment, and disappear?

        I'm still here...hanging around...answering questions...
    • kidathinnes, on 09/03/2008, -5/+5Kinda like all the lies spread by republicans about Obama. These were a little worse though. He's a Muslim, hes a racist and so on. Both parties do the same ***** man, your precious republican party does it all the time. Wake up you ***** moron.

      And sorry, it is not a lie that your ***** VP candidate is highly unqualified for the job. That is the ***** truth, and sadly I doubt any of you sheep will learn this.
      • representDLV, on 09/03/2008, -3/+1And how is Obama "qualified" for the job?
      • jetboyterp, on 09/03/2008, -3/+1For the record...I never once thought Obama was a Muslim, or is racist. And "so on".

        He's proven himself a far-left socialist liberal who's entire experience is a year or so in the US Senate (can't count the last 2 years really...he was too busy running for Prez).

        That's enough for me.
      • kidathinnes, on 09/03/2008, -0/+4Lets see, which candidate's profile looks more qualified to be a leader of one of the greatest nations in the world:

        Palin:
        n 1984, Palin won the Miss Wasilla Scholarship Pageant, (playing the flute), then finished second in the Miss Alaska pageant,at which she won a college scholarship and the "Miss Congeniality" award.

        Palin attended Hawaii Pacific College—now Hawaii Pacific University—in Honolulu for a semester in 1982, majoring in Business Administration. She transferred in 1983 to North Idaho College.In 1987,Palin received a Bachelor of Science degree in communications-journalism from the University of Idaho, where she also minored in political science.

        In 1988, she worked briefly as a sports reporter for KTUU-TV in Anchorage, Alaska. She also helped in her husband’s family commercial fishing business.
        Palin served two terms on the Wasilla, Alaska, city council from 1992 to 1996, then won two terms as mayor of Wasilla from 1996 to 2002. After an unsuccessful campaign for lieutenant governor of Alaska in 2002, she chaired the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission from 2003 to 2004 while also serving as Ethics Supervisor of the commission.

        In November 2006, Palin was elected the governor of Alaska, becoming the first woman and youngest person to hold the office. She defeated incumbent Republican governor Frank Murkowski in the Republican primary and former Democratic governor Tony Knowles in the general election garnering 48.3% of the vote.

        Obama:
        A graduate of Columbia University and Harvard Law School, where he served as president of the Harvard Law Review, Obama worked as a community organizer and practiced as a civil rights attorney before serving in the Illinois Senate from 1997 to 2004. He taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School from 1992 to 2004. Following an unsuccessful bid for a seat in the U.S. House of Representatives in 2000, he announced his campaign for the U.S. Senate in January 2003. After a primary victory in March 2004, Obama delivered the keynote address at the Democratic National Convention in July 2004. He was elected to the Senate in November 2004 with 70% of the vote.

        As a member of the Democratic minority in the 109th Congress, he helped create legislation to control conventional weapons and to promote greater public accountability in the use of federal funds. He also made official trips to Eastern Europe, the Middle East, and Africa. During the 110th Congress, he helped create legislation regarding lobbying and electoral fraud, climate change, nuclear terrorism, and care for returned U.S. military personnel. After announcing his presidential campaign in February 2007, Obama emphasized withdrawing American troops from Iraq, energy independence, decreasing the influence of lobbyists, and promoting universal health care as top national priorities.

        You may not like his policies, but it is very evident that as far as experience goes in a national and political sense, Obama is far more qualified. To say otherwise is a ***** talking point and an absolute absurdity.
      • kidathinnes, on 09/03/2008, -0/+1Jetboy that is fine, I never said you did. I am just saying it happens on both sides.
      • TripMoon, on 09/04/2008, -0/+0@ jetboyturd: 8 years was enough for me.
    • skatoolaki, on 09/03/2008, -2/+1I have to agree with billbugger - how can you, or any of us, know if the information now surfacing about Palin (and I'm not talking about her personal family crap, but her possibly cronyist actions as Mayor and Governor) is true or untrue?

      I'm not an Obama supporter; as of yet, I'm completely undecided - so I'm no die-hard fanatic about or for either of the candidates. I have been looking into everything Sarah Palin-related for the past few days because I - as an American citizen - would like to know what type of political person Gov. Palin is and how she works...considering that - if McCain is elected - she very well may end up our President (McCain is not exactly a spring chicken).

      I see nothing wrong with the people, and the media, going into her background - its the nature of the beast, and what happens when you step up and run for such a high political office (or any office, really). Your personal life and your entire background becomes fodder for the media.

      This is like when celebrities flaunt themselves in front of the cameras and make big bucks doing it, then sob that they get no privacy; that happens to be the life they signed up for. Gov. Palin knew - or should have known if she had a lick of sense - that she would be scrutinized and ripped apart and taped back together by the media and the people (especially the Internet-blogging world). McCain's campaign folks should have known this, too - do they want us to just accept our possible-next-VP blindly and with no question? That is not the spirit of this country; the people have a right to know everything about who they may be voting for and who they will be putting into office.

      If Palin does have skeletons in her closet - and none of us can be 100% sure yet, but what I've read is pretty damning so far - then perhaps McCain and Co. should have put some more thought into choosing her (i.e. vetting might have been in their best interest). It isn't the media's fault that it is digging up dirt that they failed to find (or look for) before choosing Gov. Palin.
      • jetboyterp, on 09/03/2008, -2/+1It's not that the media is "digging up dirt"....that's one thing. They're making stuff up. Lying for petty partisan reasons.

        And most of the anti-Palin junk here on Digg, for instance, comes from purely partisan sources...like HuffPo, RawStory, Kos, etc.

        No agenda there...
      • skatoolaki, on 09/03/2008, -0/+1That may be so, and I'm still wavering on the issue of "truth" or "fiction". The sad thing is - as much as I wanted to like Sarah Palin (I was excited at first when the announcement came about her) - I am just not comfortable with a lot of the issues she stands for (regardless of all the hype surrounding her personal life & background). It's a shame...I really had high hopes; I really did want to like her.

        Still, I think the Repubs are a bit out of line yelling at the media for doing what the media does...what, really, did they expect?
      • TripMoon, on 09/04/2008, -0/+0This should steer you in the right direction: the fact that you "waver", that you are "thinking", and not falling behind the ranks in a lock-step fashion, makes you a "liberal" in most conservative minds.
    • starscream45, on 09/03/2008, -0/+1Look, EVERY story on Digg is about either, McCain, Palin or Obama....

      http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Gov_Palin_is_on_ ...
  • theycensoredme, on 09/03/2008, -31/+18I wish there was a Digg setting to automatically bury articles from selected sources as spam.

    Huffington Post = Think Progress = Spam
    • kidathinnes, on 09/03/2008, -5/+5You can see the article source before you click on it. Don't like Huff Post? Don't click on the article. It is really quite simple.
    • bdigital24, on 09/03/2008, -2/+7I second the notion
    • fluxion, on 09/03/2008, -0/+1you people who arent interested in these articles seem to post more comments about them than the people who are.
  • BXRWXR, on 09/03/2008, -25/+27Rush Douchebaugh is calling it "the drive-by media". Nice one Rush, did you think that up all by yourself?
    • Bluezdood, on 09/03/2008, -11/+15Actually he coined that term a long time ago. Glad you were paying attention.
    • TubaTechno, on 09/03/2008, -15/+7sounds like you don't listen to Rush much. I would assume you only tune in when your liberal friends say he says something "outrageous" out of context?
    • joelbow, on 09/03/2008, -4/+5You obviously an Obama bot who knows nothing... Rush has been been saying that for 20 years.
    • AverageJane2, on 09/04/2008, -2/+3He invented the drive by media. He just put a name to his actions that's all.
  • vince215, on 09/03/2008, -15/+59If you're running for VEEP and you don't want the media to delve into your life you're an idiot
  • suprememilo, on 09/03/2008, -19/+40"John McCain's campaign on Wednesday angrily called for an end to questions about its review of Sarah Palin's background, deriding a "faux media scandal designed to destroy the first female Republican nominee" for vice president"

    The media isn't trying to destroy the first "female Republican nominee" they are trying to destroy one of the WORST nominees ever.
    Republicans, quit making this about women , you picked her cause she is a woman, we almost picked Hillary because she is awesome.
    • jetboyterp, on 09/03/2008, -19/+4You got a real winner there with Joe Biden....lmao!!
      • pelayostyle, on 09/03/2008, -3/+7Actually, we do.
      • bman1984, on 09/03/2008, -0/+4When the truth comes out, the typical response is to insult back. Do you have logic? Can you express thoughts? Is the only thing you can come up with: RAWR LIBRULZ *drooling* ?

        Everybody is entitled to their own opinion. Perhaps you should try forming one instead of spewing Limbaugh nonsense like a zombie?

        Ill even show you how retarded you look.

        You got a real winner there with John McCain.... lmaoroflcopteromfgbbqwtf!!!!!!
  • jimkamm, on 09/03/2008, -11/+35Palin is an intentional GOP smokescreen (we can probably thank Karl Rove). The media's distracted by her constantly unfolding, non-relevant family and personal issues instead of focusing on actual GOP platform issues, or the fact that she's (drum roll, please) just not qualified to lead the nation. It doesn't matter what gender she is, what her family situation is, or anything else.

    Now that conservatives are jumping to Palin's personal defense in droves, we are all but forbidden to question her legislative inexperience.

    Palin has said as recently as a few months ago that she doesn't know what the VP does, exactly, and how it will help out Alaska. Well, one of the VP's main duties, Gov. Palin, happens to be presiding over the U.S. Senate. Refer to your junior-high civics book re: "legislature."
    • TubaTechno, on 09/03/2008, -9/+2Not qualified to "lead the nation"? I didn't know casting the tie breaking vote would have such an impact....
      • illegalcortex, on 09/03/2008, -0/+6Unfortunately, since you DID know she will take over in the case of incapacity or death of the president, you don't get any points.

        Every VP should be someone you feel is qualified to be president. They don't need to be your first choice, but they should at least make the list.
      • lazyfisherman, on 09/03/2008, -0/+4With John McCain being old, dogged by cancer and possibly senile, she could easily become President. So yeah.. the VP had better be capable of leading the nation if the Repugs win again.
    • johnhummel, on 09/03/2008, -0/+4If this is a smoke screen, they picked a really bad one. This is like when Bush wanted to appoint Harriett Meiers to the Supreme Court, and people went "Uh - really?"
    • fadking, on 09/04/2008, -0/+1From my understanding, Palin is the agreement Rove and McCaine reached after an impasse: McCaine wanted Lieberman, Rove wanted Romney. They couldn't agree on either and so picked a third -- Palin.

      Follow along here, because what I just wrote is the rhetorical means to rebut the whole thing.

      IF MCCAIN CAN'T STAND UP TO ROVE AND PICK HIS VERY OWN VEEP, THEN IT TRULY WILL BE 4 MORE YEARS OF BUSH.

      This is the only scrutiny that needs to be made EVER about Palin, and no one needs to utter her name. It doesn't matter about HER -- at all. (Although I do agree she's a horribly weak choice.)

      It ONLY matters for the following: McCaine is ROVE's lapdog, every (goose)step of the way.

      STOP talking about HER, START talking about how he even arrived at the _CHOICE_.
  • biogears, on 09/03/2008, -42/+17You huffpo-zombies are hilarious with your herd mentality. Turn off the PS3 and go get a job.
    • turbodork, on 09/04/2008, -1/+1"Turn off the PS3 and go get a job."

      Says the douche-noodle who's been digging and commenting on 23 posts nonstop for the past 12 hours. Or is your job being a professional know-nothing?
      • biogears, on 09/04/2008, -0/+1I'm a stay-at-home mom, and this IS a job 24x7 and no vacation pay, but the best rewards.
  • cadmiumpaint, on 09/03/2008, -22/+52McCain may have been a war hero 40 years ago, but in 2008 he is a coward. He doesn't have the balls to take questions from Larry King or any other journalist that isn't on his party's (fox news) payroll. He sure as ***** doesn't have the balls to stand up to any of America's enemies.

    Back to the same tired Republican strategy. Blame the media for everything.
    • amightywind, on 09/03/2008, -3/+5That's not Larry King. CNN put his stuffed corpse in a chair and plays a rerun tape.
    • ancientshoes, on 09/03/2008, -7/+6Palin has been more throughly vetted by the media in the past 5 days than obama has been in the past 6 months, I think it's pretty obvious whos side the media is on
      • cadmiumpaint, on 09/03/2008, -2/+8Obama has been a national public figure for over 4 years. All of his dirty laundry has been put out there and been neutralized.

        Palin has been a national public figure for less than a week. The media has done more vetting than the McCain campaign.
    • bdigital24, on 09/03/2008, -3/+2Better than blaming voting machines, wouldn't you say?
    • letherial, on 09/03/2008, -1/+0saddly, there is a decent chance he will be our next president.
  • chicofaraby, on 09/03/2008, -16/+35So it's the media's fault... that John McCain chose a governor for a running mate who advocates "abstinence only" sex education while she has a teenaged unwed pregnant daughter.
    • amightywind, on 09/03/2008, -12/+5The liberal ghouls are clamoring for this nice girl to get an abortion! To them it is the obvious solution.
      • chicofaraby, on 09/03/2008, -4/+10Really? Who? Where?

        or are you just a ***** liar?
      • amightywind, on 09/03/2008, -10/+2The democrat party has truly become a cult of death.
      • txtumbler, on 09/03/2008, -2/+8No, the obvious solution is to have a multifaceted approach to stopping teen pregnancy. There is no better testament to the abstinence-only approach than her own daughter.
      • WafflesID, on 09/03/2008, -1/+6Ok, show me ONE "liberal ghoul" clamoring for an abortion. And I'm not talking about some ***** schmuck on digg.

        Just one...

        I'll be waiting.
      • Anonchrist, on 09/03/2008, -0/+4No abortion. Just a condom so that it wouldn't of happened.Hopefully she will be a loving mother that will teach her child better than she was taught.

        BTW, the forced marriage of a 17 year old sounds a little Muslim to me. /s Now we can play on all of the things Obama was puled though the dirt for without deserving... The point of all of this is that there are two sides to every coin and Mccain is getting what he deserves for picking a woman solely to get the Hillary vote.
      • StaticThunder, on 09/03/2008, -0/+1I am won over by your cogent and calmly posed argument. Clearly I must not be for electing McCain/Palin, since I don't want to be a liberal "ghoul".
    • WafflesID, on 09/03/2008, -5/+5Of all the things to criticize Palin for, the unwed pregnant daughter thing is absolutely the worst one.

      There are so many other BETTER things to criticize her for. Who gives a ***** if her daughter is pregnant. Who gives a ***** if she is pro-life and pro-abstinence education. That doesn't really affect anything.

      The fact that she accepted earmarks, was for and now against the bridge to no-where, potentially abused her power, etc. Now that stuff you can really use.
      • StaticThunder, on 09/03/2008, -1/+7The teenage pregnant daughter is the quickest route to demonstrate hypocrisy. All the others require people actually thinking.

        I mean, come on, she's for abstinence education but then look how well it worked for HER family!

        The only quicker way to hypocrisy would be if she called for Alaska to secede ... oh wait...

        I beg to differ on it not mattering. She's going to be President if McCain wins, and she'll be making decisions on who sits on the supreme court.
      • banderwocky, on 09/03/2008, -2/+5Hell ya. But after he speech tonight, the "pundits" will claim she hit it out of the park, and that McCain made the right decision, blah blah blah. She could even go out spouting her churches beliefs about how the Jews got what they had coming. She could call Regan a homosexual and still the right wing is going to praise her up and down. The circus here is damn entertaining from outside the fish bowl.
      • amightywind, on 09/04/2008, -2/+1@banderwocky You begin to see clearly what a brilliant riposte this was against Obama and how the press negativity could play in her favor. She could ***** on the stage and still 'hit it out of the park'. So much so Obama will be appearing on the O'Reilly factor tomorrow, desperate to stop the hemorrhaging of woman voters - and after McSame did him the courtesy of not commenting on the night of Obama's acceptance speech.
    • KDX200rider, on 09/04/2008, -1/+1No, its the media fault for being openly biased in their reporting. They sing BHusseinO 's praises, while ignoring his incredibly poor choice of friends; racists and terrorists.
  • LeeSoong, on 09/03/2008, -14/+14
    Politicians should expect to be scrutinized,
    it comes with the job.

    So cut her the same breaks Obama gets, at least!

    • SSCrow, on 09/03/2008, -2/+2Did you miss the part where Obama said that her family matters are private?

      Dare I bring up the "Terrorist Fist Jab"?
  • southwestnut, on 09/03/2008, -27/+17and this is different than Obama telling people to stop questioning his wife? of ties to the racist Rev(?) Wright? or his ties to terrorist Ayers? or how he "speaks of fiscal responsibility" yet wants to send nearly 1 trillion in poverty aid overseas in the next 4 years?

    I would point out the Obama strategy, but he has none other than relying on misguided people to vote his socialist rear end into office.
    • ender7074, on 09/03/2008, -17/+9But its ok because its Obama. His family is off limits. You can question nothing about him. You had just better vote for him or your some sort of racist or not smart enough to realize that the Savior has arrived.
    • bdigital24, on 09/03/2008, -7/+5*standing ovation*
    • MrHateMan, on 09/03/2008, -3/+3you sir... are an idiot.
    • Gev1982, on 09/03/2008, -0/+3Yes, this is absolutely different. Obama's wife is not running for president, nor was she selected to run as vice president. The bottom line here is that the republicans have been harping on the Obama campaign and his supposed "lack of experience" while selecting a vice-presidential candidate who is completely unqualified to step into the position of president. When the McCain campaign decides to play fair and hold themselves to the same standard that they are attempting to project onto the American people, then maybe you can make comments about people being misguided--However, since this is obviously not the case, perhaps you should take your own comment to heart and do some research yourself before spouting off something you saw on Fox news. Douche.
      • ender7074, on 09/04/2008, -1/+0Hey, Sarah Palin's daughter is not running for Vice President, Douche. Nor is she making political speeches about hating her country, Douche. Get your facts strait *****. Once again, we are not allowed to question the Messiah yet any conservative and their family is free game. Typical liberal *****.
    • letherial, on 09/03/2008, -0/+1I have never heard of him tell anyone not to question his ties with wright, or anyone else, his family is off limits to personal attacks, but not to look into...sorry but what your getting is a distorted truth about the guy, i dotn care if you dont like his policys, or him as a person, but if your going to judge somone, judge on the facts and not some right wing smear campaign that they are ever famous of doing.

      seriously, why do you trust them anymore?
  • rjyanj, on 09/03/2008, -11/+22It's not like they were even answering these questions in the first place.

    The Republicans just dodge and try to change the question.. it'd be funny if the future of our country wasn't at stake.
  • jetblackz4, on 09/03/2008, -19/+39McCain should have Googled her first. Oh, that's right he does not know how to use a computer.
  • pintomp3, on 09/03/2008, -12/+3495% of our media is controled by 6 corporations, some who make money from war-contracts. do they really believe these large corporations have a liberal bias? it feeds into the republican paranoia. they believe every country is trying to invade them. they believe white christians are an endangered species. they believe there is an assault on christianity on this country, just because not everyone wants to live by their religious standards. any facts they don't like being reported is a product of the liberal media. where were the cries of the biased media when it was promoting the lies of the administration and leading the country into war?
    • TubaTechno, on 09/03/2008, -11/+4Wow. That was probably the most overgeneralized, bias, ignorant statement I've heard, especially from Digg.

      Way to pull figures out of your ass: 95%? 6 corporations? You do realize that individual human beings work at these corporations and news outlets and not just some inhuman corporate monster? And there are hundreds of independent journalists on the internet, right?
    • nixfu, on 09/03/2008, -9/+2Corporations don't have bias.

      Talking heads who are all flaming liberals do.
      • chicofaraby, on 09/03/2008, -1/+4"Corporations don't have bias."

        Iraq has WMD.
      • SatoriSeeker, on 09/03/2008, -1/+3This could quite possibly be the stupidest comment I've ever read on digg.
      • OrigamiRonin, on 09/03/2008, -0/+4Are you seriously telling us that all of these huge corporations that own the media outlets are being held hostage to the beliefs of a few of their journalists?
    • KDX200rider, on 09/04/2008, -2/+1Are you for real? Evan the kookiest left wing loon isn't going to by that.
  • tamaker, on 09/03/2008, -13/+24Bros - c'mon -- Palin is cool... Trust me - I mean John looked into here soul (that one time he met her briefly). It worked for Bush sizing up Putin, right?
    • ender7074, on 09/03/2008, -9/+3Oops, you messed up. The diggtards here love Russia and Putin.
  • chrissku, on 09/03/2008, -15/+26John why are you so mad at the media? They're merely doing the vetting that you neglected to do. Now go back to your nap old man.
  • PEMDAS, on 09/03/2008, -21/+6Palin/Obama 08! Inexperience the Magic.
    • ldailey06, on 09/03/2008, -3/+10SPOILER ALERT:
      Only one of them graduated first in their class at Harvard law.
      • representDLV, on 09/03/2008, -4/+2SPOILER ALERT:
        Only one of them has any executive experience.
      • ldailey06, on 09/04/2008, -0/+1FLAWED LOGIC ALERT:
        Being governor of Alaska gives about as much executive experience as managing a Denny's.

        Oh and please don't mention commander in chief of the Alaska National Guard or proximity to Russia, BEEN THERE DONE THAT.
  • ejp5g, on 09/03/2008, -13/+46The media is doing their job.
    • jonnyboy1544, on 09/03/2008, -5/+8Are they? A fake story about Governor Palin taking her daughter's baby to avoid controversy... her pregnant daughter's boyfriend... her husband's sledding habits...

      Sounds like hard hitting relevant political commentary!

      Oh there is that thing with her ex-brother-in-law but remember when that union guy bought her a house? Oh wait, that was Obama...
      • ironhide, on 09/03/2008, -4/+4What mainstream media outlet reported that Pailin took her daughter's baby?
      • jonnyboy1544, on 09/03/2008, -2/+7Saw it on MSNBC... the fact that they even mentioned it disgusts me.

        It ranks right up there with Fox calling Obama a fundamentalist muslim... just not true and totally irrelevant.
    • vexingmodstwo, on 09/03/2008, -4/+7They're doing their job?

      Where's all the reporters going through the Annenberg Files in Chicago?

      Where's the hard hitting reporting regarding the fact that Obama spent nearly nine years with "Uncle Frank" aka Frank Marshall Davis, an avowed communist?

      Where is the media doing its job?
    • ironpirate, on 09/04/2008, -0/+2yeah lying
    • KDX200rider, on 09/04/2008, -0/+1If by doing there job, you mean take their marching orders from the Democrap party, your right.
  • F0RMLESSNESS, on 09/03/2008, -11/+29great idea johnny blame the media that'll never backfire on you.
    • BufordT, on 09/03/2008, -0/+4Backfire or not, it will rally the base which is what he was really after anyway.
  • akchrs, on 09/03/2008, -12/+6It's amazing how scared you liberal/progressive democrats are of this woman.
  • nopRT, on 09/03/2008, -6/+22We can't criticize Palin? When the hell was she a POW?
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