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huffingtonpost.com — Democrats are more nervous about Barack Obama's prospects than they were a month ago, the New York Times reports. Maybe his new ad -- a jauntier, more aggressive attack than the campaign has released before -- will help.
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- blakecr, on 08/25/2008, -65/+55And a left and a left and another left...and a right to the jaw...down goes McCain down goes the champ...its pandemonium...
The crowd is on their feet...the newcomer has delivered a punishing blow...lets see if he can get up from this...- bhavinp, on 08/25/2008, -14/+5Why did u post the same thing as in the other digg article? Funny none the less.
http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/John_McCain_Don_ ...- AndrewDB, on 08/25/2008, -3/+12Give him a break, he's just discovering the wonderment of ctrl-c, ctrl-v.
- solboldi, on 08/25/2008, -6/+8The ad is nothing more than saying 'my opponent is stupid'. It offers nothing new and is the lowest and least creative form of mud-slinging. But just last week Obama told McCain to 'dignify' his campaign. What a huge hypocrite this rookie Obama is. Rookie the Flip-Flopper for President!
- mlwarrior, on 08/25/2008, -0/+1This same article is on the next page.
- GliTCH82, on 08/25/2008, -0/+2Well, I'm calling *****. Maybe this doesn't give us any new insight on Obama and why he would make a good president, but it does give us some new insight on McCain and why he shouldn't be president and I think that's just as important. Let's not ignore the main issue here: McCain sucks balls.
- jdmiday, on 08/25/2008, -17/+10The newcomer lost ground in the polls during his own convention.
- elipabst, on 08/25/2008, -2/+8The convention hasn't started yet.
- jdmiday, on 08/25/2008, -1/+1Feel free to read again tomorrow.
- bieber, on 08/25/2008, -0/+27Please. The two haven't even left their corners yet...
- whiterice0, on 08/25/2008, -28/+15(set to the tune of O Tenenbaum)
O Huffington, O Huffington,
Your left-wing bias delights us.
O Huffington, O Huffington,
Your left-wing bias delights us.
Your myopic view keeps our days bright;
And, we're never moderate with insight.
O Huffington, O Huffington,
Make the ignorance resilient! - QuadZeroRoute, on 08/25/2008, -27/+13Hialrious....Biden doesn't even know Obama's name. See 9:55+
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSNuYqYMeG4
Dur, Barack America is that you? What a ***** joke.
And a left and a left and another left...and a right to the jaw...down goes Obama and Biden.- jayzDigga, on 08/25/2008, -1/+1Why do you link to the edited version?
The unedited version, Obama says "The next President....errr, uhh, durrr, duhhh, The Next Vice-president..."
- jayzDigga, on 08/25/2008, -1/+1Why do you link to the edited version?
- thelizardreborn, on 08/25/2008, -10/+14I thought righteous Obama was above this kind of politics...
- InfiniteNothing, on 08/25/2008, -2/+8I must say, as an Obama supporter, I'm a bit disappointed. I guess, I'd rather be disappointed now than in Nov though
- elipabst, on 08/25/2008, -1/+7That's exactly what Kerry did and he spent months on the defensive. When he finally tried to get aggressive it was too late. I don't know why the Democrats let the Republicans guilt trip them into feeling bad about playing hard ball. John McCain was supposed to be about change from the Washington business-as-usual too. It didn't take McCain long to resort to mud-slinging attack ads did it? The future of this country is too important to feel bad about hurting someone's feelings.
- Charlotte_Web, on 08/25/2008, -6/+3If this is the best Obama can come up with, then expect to be disappointed in November, too.
- BlackCow, on 08/25/2008, -0/+3At least he brought up good points instead of comparing McCain to Brittany Spears.
- treehugger87, on 08/26/2008, -0/+1The gloves are off, baby!
- thelizardreborn, on 08/26/2008, -0/+1@elipabst -
My point isn't what guilt trip republicans are putting on Obama, but that Obama himself degraded that sort of politics.
I was actually hoping (though not expecting) that Obama's non-offensive campaign strategy might rub off on other politicians if he managed to win with it. - ldailey06, on 08/28/2008, -0/+1It's a shame, but negative adds work.
- solboldi, on 08/25/2008, -5/+11There are 2 versions of this on the homepage right now. But Digg is not extremely biased...not at all.
- smurfsahoy, on 08/25/2008, -1/+3Please explain how Ron Paul and Obama have anything at in common in terms of partisan platform issues.
- blakecr, on 08/25/2008, -2/+3How can democracy be biased? If you do not like the results go recruit some crazy church people to help you digg some stuff down...sorry its just dumb to say that a system governed by users is biased.
- Shiftgood, on 08/25/2008, -8/+13You know, McCain had a pretty good ad against Biden they just released. Its sad that it didnt make the front page. It something we should all discuss. I think fox news runs it about 3x an hour.
http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Joe_Biden_Speaks ...
Lets get it all out on the table, k digg?- n00ptic, on 08/25/2008, -1/+4I agree, we should be discussing McCain's new ad. See, here's the problem. They released that ad on the same day as this ad: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NrQ36Djf2E
So, you have one ad attacking Obama for choosing a running mate who criticized him, and then another attacking him for doing the opposite. That means that the McCain campaign is flailing about with contradictory messaging because they've lost control of the media narrative and don't know what to do. Meanwhile, Obama's polls are rising because the convention is starting. And, to top it all off, the current narrative on McCain is that he's completely out of touch with real people because he doesn't even know how many houses he owns or what gas costs when the country is in an economic crisis... that, and the McCain campaign will use the POW card more than Giuliani dropped 9/11.
All in all, I'd say that ad does not bode well for McCain.
- n00ptic, on 08/25/2008, -1/+4I agree, we should be discussing McCain's new ad. See, here's the problem. They released that ad on the same day as this ad: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NrQ36Djf2E
- goes211, on 08/25/2008, -8/+5I am really glad the Obama is running a new type campaign and not resorting to negative attacks.
- morninglorii, on 08/25/2008, -2/+3Shut up. He genuinely tried, and what happened? McCain's Karl Rove disciple took advantage of him, and now they're tied in the polls.
I give Barack Obama all the credit in the world for attempting to run a mostly-positive campaign, and at the same time, fully respect his refusal to go down with that now-obviously-sinking ship. - goes211, on 08/25/2008, -3/+4Shut up? Nice response.
I don't mind that Obama is running a negative campaign. It only bothers me that he claims to be something different when clearly he is more of the same. If Obama was going to a run a negative campaign, he should never have claimed he was going to be positive.
I am sure that Bush Sr. tried to live up to his "Read my lips, no new taxes!" pledge. Look where that got him.
I still think Obama is going to be the next president but my advice is Obama supporters is this. Start thinking of excuses why president Obama can't solve all the worlds problems with his solid democratic majorities in both houses of congress. It will save time later. - morninglorii, on 08/25/2008, -1/+3I notice that the only part of my comment you responded to directly was "shut up". From the rest of your response, I gather you didn't even read the other parts of my comment.
Obama claimed he was going to be positive, and he was positive. Then McCain went negative. Obama stayed positive. Then his polls started to drop. Obama stayed positive. Then his polls became tied with McCain's.
It would be the epitome of foolishness for Obama to chain himself to his positivity promise. He would lose the election, and if he was lucky, a few history books would have an asterisk that said "But at least he ran a positive campaign."
And we don't have to think of "excuses" why president Obama can't solve all the world's problems. If that's what someone needs to do to be considered a successful president, then tell me, who HAS been a successful president? - goes211, on 08/25/2008, -0/+0I'll read yours if you read mine.
I reject your premise that Obama ever had plans to remain positive. He is a very inexperienced/unknown candidate that has gotten incredible amounts of positive press and therefore has more to loose if his opponent can define him.. He had a big lead and would be crazy to think that no one was going to point out any of his flaws. If he has to respond to attacks with attacks, so be it.
I agree it would be suicide for him to stay positive. Notice that I say I don't care if Obama is going negative. I was pointing out that talk is cheap. If he was always going to run a negative campaign, don't claim otherwise.
Obama's polls started going down after he got back from his European tour. That trip showed that Obama would be very popular with non-Americans. Unfortunately for him, pictures of tens of thousands of Europeans fawning over him, probably did not earn him any votes of the people that he need to elect him, actual Americans. It actually feed into the Republican spin of him being a bit arrogant.
Obama also did not have a good showing in the sit down debate with his "above my pay grade" comment. He is going to be president of the USA, there better not be many issues that he considers above his pay grade. Most people would have no problem with that comment if they felt that he actually thought that abortion was none of the presidents business. Most people saw the comment for what is was, a cheap dodge.
I absolutely agree that no president can solve all of our problems. Never have and never will. I believe that there are very few problems that Government can solve and an infinite amount of problems it can create.
Obama has set expectations very high within his supporters. Even with complete congressional support, I believe he will find that he can't solve many problems and possibly will make things significantly worse. Maybe not significantly worse because Bush has set the bar quite high in that regards. However, I do think that Obama's economic plan has a chance to make him the next Herbert Hoover. - morninglorii, on 08/26/2008, -0/+1If your main argument is "Obama never planned to remain positive," then we can stop arguing right now. Neither of us know for a fact what his plans were. We've both made assumptions, and unless we can see into his brain, we'll never know whose is right.
- morninglorii, on 08/25/2008, -2/+3Shut up. He genuinely tried, and what happened? McCain's Karl Rove disciple took advantage of him, and now they're tied in the polls.
- Regbooker, on 08/25/2008, -4/+1Enjoy ordering pizza with Biden: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4LtYMNl4yw
- bhavinp, on 08/25/2008, -14/+5Why did u post the same thing as in the other digg article? Funny none the less.
- csydennison, on 08/25/2008, -20/+98Hahaha! I love it!
- TunaFishGangsta, on 08/25/2008, -3/+4DOESN'T KNOW MUCH
- humperdeath, on 08/25/2008, -13/+5I is Barack O-Bammma, and I are approva-tising this here ad!
- jrapp, on 08/25/2008, -6/+1Why do you have to be like that? Let's grow up, please.
- TheSabre, on 08/25/2008, -0/+5Do you say that to people who make fun of the way Bush speaks?
- dykecock, on 08/25/2008, -4/+1obama sucks *****, in fact he's in bed with mccain in more ways than one. so keep worshipping your meaningless politicians and blow me all the while........
- arrowpg, on 08/25/2008, -15/+65Now just TRY to get that tune out of your head!!
- FreddieD, on 08/25/2008, -1/+4I picture Bluto in the cafeteria line putting a quarter ton of food on his tray.
- InSectWar, on 08/25/2008, -0/+2See if you can guess what I am now?
- ChromeWalnut, on 08/25/2008, -1/+3it's gone.
- FreddieD, on 08/25/2008, -1/+4I picture Bluto in the cafeteria line putting a quarter ton of food on his tray.
- macweirdo42, on 08/25/2008, -36/+13Well, when you put it that way, I thought the tune was kinda catchy. FOUR MORE YEARS!
- radiofrequency, on 08/25/2008, -3/+6I didn't know George Bush was running. Does Senator Obama know who the Republican Party presidential nominee is? Anyway, "Four more years" of George Bush is better than four years of unbridled Democratic party moonbattery, pretzel logic about the energy crisis, expanding government, higher taxes (masquerading as a tax cut for the middle class and a tax increase for "teh rich") and socialism!
- macweirdo42, on 08/25/2008, -0/+1***** rightards, can't even take a ***** joke without turning it into a political statement.
- Monk22, on 08/25/2008, -0/+1i know i cant wait for the 836 billion dollars in proposed taxes, that shouldnt crush our already weak economy.
- radiofrequency, on 08/25/2008, -3/+6I didn't know George Bush was running. Does Senator Obama know who the Republican Party presidential nominee is? Anyway, "Four more years" of George Bush is better than four years of unbridled Democratic party moonbattery, pretzel logic about the energy crisis, expanding government, higher taxes (masquerading as a tax cut for the middle class and a tax increase for "teh rich") and socialism!
- dn11, on 08/25/2008, -11/+102the manbrace never gets old
- paradoxal, on 08/25/2008, -15/+36Well done!
- Tankslap, on 08/25/2008, -6/+2I think they would be a lot more productive with these ads if they would emphasize 1) what peril McWarmonger would be putting this country in if he were to become President, and 2) how much he profit$ from the policies he endorses.
This ad is very soft and fluffy...when the hell is the Obama campaign going to get tough?!- fasda, on 08/25/2008, -0/+2getting any tougher gets pretty close to being a negative ad campaign rather then informative
- Tankslap, on 08/25/2008, -6/+2I think they would be a lot more productive with these ads if they would emphasize 1) what peril McWarmonger would be putting this country in if he were to become President, and 2) how much he profit$ from the policies he endorses.
- IdigObama, on 08/25/2008, -25/+83I like it!
Obama/Biden 08!- tykwondingo, on 08/25/2008, -13/+2Two sides of the same coin '08 - Obama/McCain
- Suzilla, on 08/25/2008, -8/+8Wrong: McCain is a corporate socialist.
- lsdarling, on 08/25/2008, -3/+3Yep. Both are your average politician. Neither worthy of support or represent real change. One is too old and the other is grossly unqualified. But people will support the rock star and ignore his lack of experience and his support of the windfall tax. They are both losers or should be but unfortunately one of them has to win so America ends up being the loser.
- tykwondingo, on 08/25/2008, -13/+2Two sides of the same coin '08 - Obama/McCain
- tegrim, on 08/25/2008, -14/+70It hits exactly the right tone - accurate (with quote, data, and pictures) and light - not mean. Need lots more like this!
- ISIfunded911, on 08/25/2008, -19/+6*****! Every time Obama voted to fund the Bush/Cheney/Neocons war for Iraq's oil that deepened the deficit and increased the national debt at an unprecedented pace. Obama is like McCain: totally responsible, like all the corrupt puppets in D.C. More in this lucid book:
http://www.amazon.com/Obama-Postmodern-Webster-Gri ...
This review is from: Obama - The Postmodern Coup: Making of a Manchurian Candidate (Paperback)
Politicians do the opposite of what they promise more often than not. So before you vote, plug your ears to their speeches, and check what their advisors have been up to...
In "Obama: the Postmodern Coup," Tarpley gets a giant scoop as the first to delve behind the screen into the forces behind Obama: and finds out his handlers are enemies of the people. Zbigniew Brzezinski (instigator of Al-Qaeda and the Afghan-Soviet war) is CEO of the BHO show. On the economy, regressive Skull & Bones and Wall Street figures set the tone. In military affairs, it's Gen. McPeak, the perpetrator of genocidal civilian bombing tactics.
All unawares, the United States slipped into the grip of a soft coup last fall, the Brzezinski faction won over the power elite, and the neo-cons are unlamented lame ducks. Tarpley finds that "Zbig" controls two of the three front runners for the presidency -- Barack Obama and John McCain, but that Obama is the elitist favorite for a "new face" on a doddering empire.
Obama got his entrée as a protegé of "Realpolitiker" Brzezinski. He is scripted to loftily fill the role of pseudo-savior, a key one for the planned hysteria of the "people power" coups, as perfected by Left CIA and NGO traveling circuses in Eastern Europe. Now the recipe is being franchised home to cook America's political process.
Obama's backers make a laundry-list of the elite: the Rockefellers, Rand Corp., Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateral Commission, Chicago School of Economics, Bilderbergers - and the Ford Foundation six ways to Sunday. No wonder the manufactured messiah gets the lion's share of campaign cash from the corporations, and a free ride from their wholly owned media.
Tarpley ought to be dean of social sciences in a prestigious university (if any of them aren't vassals of the robber baron foundations, Rockefeller and Ford). I happen to have a poli sci degree, but almost all of "Postmodern Coup" was new to me, for example:
- American history is marked by cycles or "party realignments" of about 36 or 40 years, such as FDR's 1932 landslide or the upheavals of 1968. A few power cult strategists like Samuel Huntington know this. Under Brzezinski-Carter, they began planning ahead to subvert the cycle shift we are in now, first by the "War on Terror," now with the synthetic, pseudo-leftist Obama movement, to set the nation on a course they will determine until around 2050.
- The Democrats repeatedly nominate foregone losers with their caucus system, tilted towards "Volvo-driving" Democrats who decide the primaries in red states, which the Dems never win in the GE. Obama continues this quaint tradition of "square-wheelers" which won't play in Peoria, like Mondale, Dukakis, McGovern etc.
- How to recognize fascism in the bud? It doesn't start as a right-wing, top-down system. First it needs to gather strength from grass roots. Usually it spawns as a youth movement, often left-tinged, idealist, mystical, with stirring slogans, euphoria, and a theme of national unity and regeneration. Not so unlike "Obamania." Mussolini got his start as a leftist, socialist politico.
- Why does Obama want to attack Pakistan, the world's 6th largest country, with almost 3 times more people than Iran, and 6 times more than Iraq? It's a Chinese ally, and to get at Russia, Brzezinski wants to isolate China, forcing it to attack Russia to get oil. A madcap gambit, that can only play the US into an even tighter corner.
"Postmodern Coup" is a book with a mission -- to stave off the looming world-historical tragedy that Tarpley foresees. Yet it's about much more than "Manchurian candidate" Obama, or even Brzezinski and his earlier puppet, Jimmy Carter. Historian Tarpley draws on an unparalleled store of erudition, past precedents and inside knowledge of today's political players, and distills it here for our up-to-the-minute situation.
This book is a crash course in the essentials you need to know about US and world politics, but the media never wanted you to.- Suzilla, on 08/25/2008, -1/+4"... Obama voted to fund the Bush/Cheney/Neocons war for Iraq's oil ... "
Is it really fair to say that a politician is "for" a particular bill that he ostensibly opposed? Or is it more accurate to say that he voted for those provision within the bill that he thought worthwhile, understanding that to get those things he'd have to compromise. Maybe you're not from the US and don't realize that our bills can (and typically do) contain many so-called line items and that a bill is voted on as a whole. Anything -- ANYTHING -- can be attached to any bill. In the more absurd cases, you can have line items that fund programs that directly contradict the ostensible purpose of the bill. Still, the bill as a whole is either passed or rejected as a whole once it comes up for a vote.
Voting nay on the bills you mention would have meant voting nay on providing sufficient body armor and other provision for our troops already put in harm's way by BushCo's irresponsibility, as well as other funding items for programs here at home in the US.
Please educate yourself on the American legislative process before you make such a sweeping -- and inaccurate -- generalization.
- Suzilla, on 08/25/2008, -1/+4"... Obama voted to fund the Bush/Cheney/Neocons war for Iraq's oil ... "
- sinrtb, on 08/26/2008, -0/+1needs more cowbell but otherwise an excellent ad.
- Gwain52, on 08/27/2008, -0/+0The next one they do should be "Bomb, bomb, bomb; bomb bomb Iran" (to the tune of the Beach Boys' "Barbara Ann"), starting with McCain's own abortive rendition and continuing with an a' cappello performance of the song. On second thought, it would probably be better for this to be produced as as a MoveOn.com ad. The following lyrics borrow heavily from Adam Kontras's version of the song with some new twists:
Bomb bomb bomb; bomb bomb Iran,
Bomb bomb bomb; bomb bomb Iran.
Let's bomb Iran! Let's take a stand, and bomb Iran!
They're evil, yes it's true, there's nothin' left to do,
But bomb Iran, bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran!
Went to Iraq, lookin to attack,
Caught lotsa flack, so we won't be turnin' back!
Bombed Iraq, bombed bombed, bombed bombed Iraq.
We got them rockin' and a rollin',
Rockin' and a reelin', Bombed Iraq,
Bombed bombed, bombed bombed Iraq!
Tried Uzbekistan,
Tried Kajikistan,
Tried Pakistan,
But I knew they wouldn't stand,
Bomb Iran, bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran,
For us to cross their land,
Bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran,
Let's get them rockin' and a rollin'
Rockin' and a reelin',
Bomb Iran, bomb bom, bomb bomb Iran
Found the Taliban, runnin Afganistan,
Had no oil or gas, so we thought we'd kick their _ _ _,
Bombed Afgans, bombed bombed, bombed bombed Afgans,
Bombed Afgans, bombed bombed, bombed bombed Afgans,
We've got them rockin' and a rollin', rockin' and a reelin',
Bombed Afgans, bombed bombed, bombed bombed Afgans.
Now we're in Iraq, there ain't no turnin' back,
Iran is right next door, so while we're here let's just attack,
And Bomb Iran! Bomb Bomb, let's Bomb Iran!
They're a threat to me and you, there's nothin' left to do,
But Bomb Iran, Bomb Bomb, Bomb Bomb Iran!
Bomb bomb bomb; bomb bomb Iran,
Bomb bomb bomb; bomb bomb Iran.
Let's bomb Iran! Let's take a stand, and Bomb Iran!
They're evil through and through, there's nothin' left to do,
But bomb Iran, bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran!
Bomb Iran, bomb Iran
Bomb Iran, bomb Iran
- ISIfunded911, on 08/25/2008, -19/+6*****! Every time Obama voted to fund the Bush/Cheney/Neocons war for Iraq's oil that deepened the deficit and increased the national debt at an unprecedented pace. Obama is like McCain: totally responsible, like all the corrupt puppets in D.C. More in this lucid book:
- BishkekBuddy, on 08/25/2008, -15/+80I'm old enough to remember the original song and whoever thought of it to use as the basis for Obama's ad is just brilliant! BRILLIANT! You could go on and on with the original:
"Don't know much about geography" - Afganistan shares a border with Pakistan??
"Don't know much trigonometry" - let's see, how many homes do I own? Hmmm... hope the questions get easier!- blackinthmiddle, on 08/25/2008, -3/+28While I agree with you, just from an effectiveness standpoint (where the average voter will get bogged down by too many facts) it probably makes more sense to point out one flaw per ad.
Obama's team is pretty smart to go after this quote that McCain made. It wasn't a slip up. It was his actual stance on the economy. If he goes after his geography blunder, or mentioning Putin as the president of Germany, etc., then McCain will simply find the (few) times Obama slipped up. Then, Obama will be forced to say things like, "Well for every time I slipped up, he slipped up 10 times." When you roll in the mud with a pig, you're going to also get dirty. - Kinneas12, on 08/25/2008, -2/+35I don't think the number of houses owned is a trig question, chief.
- kefkaantakrist, on 08/25/2008, -4/+2Granted and all the nerds would be pissed about it, but to the average voter Trig is probably just about as alien as the nude female body is to the average digger.
- dougs55, on 08/25/2008, -1/+7Don't forget his graduation rank at the Naval Academy, 894 out of 899 graduates that year.
I remember the Sam Cooke song too, but from Animal House. When it originally came out in 1960 I was still in kindergarten. :D- Bith8654, on 08/25/2008, -0/+3Yeah but that would be referring to McCain's military experience in a negative light, which is strictly forbidden...I mean he was a P.O.W! How can he have any flaws about anything at any point in time?!
I feel that sadly I need to put /sarc since there are people who actually have this point of view.
- Bith8654, on 08/25/2008, -0/+3Yeah but that would be referring to McCain's military experience in a negative light, which is strictly forbidden...I mean he was a P.O.W! How can he have any flaws about anything at any point in time?!
- blackinthmiddle, on 08/25/2008, -3/+28While I agree with you, just from an effectiveness standpoint (where the average voter will get bogged down by too many facts) it probably makes more sense to point out one flaw per ad.
- themightylex, on 08/25/2008, -10/+29Now this is a great way to drive home a real point of McCain being out of sync with the middle-class, while showing why Democrats are better at humor. I'm gonna play that a few more times.
- bjs3171, on 08/25/2008, -0/+5haha. you just suggested democrats are better at humor. i'm a democrat, but this party is about as humorless as a ***** funeral. otherwise, someone might get offended.
- byronm, on 08/25/2008, -1/+1Dunno what type of democrats are around you. Even in the Conservative Mecha of the World (Lancaster PA) i find dems to be rather progressive.. After all, being liberal is knowing you have the right to spit out whatever you feel. I find that those "womenatzi" and "do-gooder" types were merely the .05% of dems that the neo-cons brought forth to try and convince the world that neo-cons where better.. hopefully people are know seeing the light.
- bjs3171, on 08/25/2008, -0/+5haha. you just suggested democrats are better at humor. i'm a democrat, but this party is about as humorless as a ***** funeral. otherwise, someone might get offended.
- guerresoanthony, on 08/25/2008, -42/+30what happened to Obama running a clean campaign? Maybe that diminishing poll lead is having some effects
- FreddieD, on 08/25/2008, -3/+24No chance. The unfortunate reality is that negative campaigning works, as proven time and time again. When a politician doesn't fight fire with fire then they lose.
- gnotDigger, on 08/25/2008, -1/+5I fail to see how this is "dirty" at all. What about the blatant lies in the mccains ads? Such as tying obama to Tony Rezko. This connection died as soon as it surfaced into the mainstream because there simply ARE NO FACTS substantiating the claims. Republicans are masters of LIBEL. OBAMA/BIDEN 08 BABY booyah
- FreddieD, on 08/25/2008, -0/+2Obama's ad is not dirty at all. Dirty would be the below-the-belt tactics that Bush used against McCain in 2000 by trying to spread rumors that he fathered an illegitimate black child.
At the same time, McCain's ads haven't been dirty either (so far). Misleading as *****? Yeah, but unless he says some real ***** along the lines of "Do you really want another HUSSEIN in power??" I'm going to pick my battles. If Obama were running against Bush he would have had to defend himself from dirty blows like that every week. Then again the well spoken, well educated and charismatic Obama would crush that goofy studdering bastard.
- jdenzer, on 08/25/2008, -5/+20Yeah, just sit back and let the McCain campaign to only run negative ads w/ lies.
The right would love that. What do think he is going to do sit back and take it? - getbusyliving, on 08/25/2008, -4/+11He has to win over the average American. Slinging ***** works.
- mnemy, on 08/25/2008, -5/+11There's a huge difference in how both campaigns point out deficiencies in their opponents. If you can't see that, you're blind.
- Darksilverstrea, on 08/25/2008, -1/+11McCain sure isn't running one. Americans say that want a clean campaign, but most only respond to negativity. Sad but true.
- userperson, on 08/25/2008, -6/+2"Clean Campaign" that was just rhetoric ... he really didn't mean it. You'll be hearing a lot more of that from both sides.
- sudhu, on 08/25/2008, -1/+8no, it just means they learnt from the Kerry campaign mistakes
- alukaiser, on 08/25/2008, -6/+3You have a skewed definition of "negative". How is pointing out direct quotes and showing pictures of a candidate anything but just truth? If he had a picture of McCain strangling a cat and he didn't plaster it everywhere he wouldnt be positive, he'd be an idiot.
- bjs3171, on 08/25/2008, -2/+2how was this not clean? where were the lies?
- FreddieD, on 08/25/2008, -3/+24No chance. The unfortunate reality is that negative campaigning works, as proven time and time again. When a politician doesn't fight fire with fire then they lose.
- mediaspree, on 08/25/2008, -31/+23Buried as dupe, 4 stories down. Come on digg.
- mnemy, on 08/25/2008, -3/+8Well this is the one I clicked on. Probably because of the description.
- HiCaP, on 08/25/2008, -0/+10That's because it's from MakiMaki, ya know, top diggers make up their own rules.
Just bury, he did submit hours after others - mike17032, on 08/25/2008, -2/+8How else is MakiMaki going to get paid by huffpo? A link to a youtube post doesnt make anyone money.
Just start to bury everything he submits, since half of it is propaganda spam he was paid to game to the homepage anyway.- solboldi, on 08/25/2008, -2/+2The ad is nothing more than saying 'my opponent is stupid'. It offers nothing new and is the lowest and least creative form of mud-slinging. But just last week Obama told McCain to 'dignify' his campaign. What a huge hypocrite this rookie Obama is. Rookie the Flip-Flopper for President!
- smurfsahoy, on 08/25/2008, -0/+1It's not flip flopping if you interpret the call to dignity as a threat...
It's following through.
- ValarieEllis, on 08/25/2008, -11/+42Whoever wrote this commercial is a creative genius! It's terrific!!
- whiterice0, on 08/25/2008, -14/+4Great sarcasm.
- DarkShroud, on 08/25/2008, -9/+7The Republicans can just quote Obama saying we have 57 states. That's just the beginning.
- QuadZeroRoute, on 08/25/2008, -6/+6"That's my pastor right over there....stand up pastor Wright." God Damn America! God Damn America! God Damn America!
- WasabiBomb, on 08/25/2008, -1/+6... and it still won't be anywhere near the gaffes, flipflops, and outright lies coming from McCain.
- johndavidjack, on 08/25/2008, -3/+3^^^^
No, no, no, not God Bless America, GOD DAMN AMERICA!!! - johndavidjack, on 08/25/2008, -4/+3@WasabiBomb
Are we even going to discuss the Obama flip flops, changes in position, etc from the Obama camp? The guy monitors opinion polls from the America public just to make up his mind on what to think about the tough issues... - WasabiBomb, on 08/25/2008, -1/+2@johndavidjack
Sure, if you really want to compare McCain's flipflops, gaffes, misstatements, lies, pandering and outright falsehoods to Obama's, go ahead.
Tell you what, to get you started, why don't you try to come up with 74 Obama flipflops? Here's McCain's list: http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/flipflops?t=3
- BXRWXR, on 08/25/2008, -0/+3The sad part is the good ones write themselves.
- TheInformer, on 08/25/2008, -45/+32Huffingtonpost spewage. Buried.
- mike17032, on 08/25/2008, -4/+14MakiMaki has to get paid somehow.
- caramba420, on 08/25/2008, -3/+4But look who REALLY got buried...
PWNED! - flashback99, on 08/25/2008, -1/+2It's a frigging ad you ***** lobotomised caintard.
- vexingmodstwo, on 08/25/2008, -52/+31Typical Obamabot response:
Incredible. Amazing. A must see.
YAWN.- caramba420, on 08/25/2008, -3/+5Well, it looks like everyone is lining up around the block to hear what you have to say, aren't they?
- vexingmodstwo, on 08/25/2008, -3/+5Ask me if I care.
- neonoodle, on 08/25/2008, -2/+1do you care?
- EatingPaste, on 08/25/2008, -0/+1well they are listening to what hes saying he just got buried down
- flashback99, on 08/25/2008, -0/+1Do you get oxygen down there?
- caramba420, on 08/25/2008, -3/+5Well, it looks like everyone is lining up around the block to hear what you have to say, aren't they?
- whiterice0, on 08/25/2008, -37/+29Yeah, baby. Cause one instance is never enough on the FP of Digg -- especially if it's huffingtonpost garbage.
- wfbnadador, on 08/25/2008, -18/+4was that james taylor?
- wfbnadador, on 08/25/2008, -3/+2haha guess not, apparently bury worthy.
- bjs3171, on 08/25/2008, -0/+1yes. diggers are retarded.
- funkymoose, on 08/25/2008, -34/+26Dupe/Spam
- pavelmah, on 08/25/2008, -32/+27How many times do we have to see the same thing on Digg, to realize it actually happened?
- Jektal, on 08/25/2008, -2/+65.
- PopcornDave, on 08/25/2008, -3/+2Hey, at least there's video so you know it did happen. Quit complaining.
- jdubyah, on 08/25/2008, -37/+25That ad was weak. I was expecting better than that.
I've already heard that point, they need something new.
/end rant
begin digging down - btschul, on 08/25/2008, -31/+26I thought Obama criticized McCain for running ads like this attacking him. Now Obama's doing it, and you all are ok with it, calling it "brilliant"? If this was a McCain ad attacking Obama, you all would be rallying behind the ***** Huffington Post criticizing McCain for attacking Obama. http://i37.tinypic.com/nmjioz.jpg (p.s. don't bust my balls for supporting a senile warmonger, because I hate McCain almost as much as I hate your socialist messiah)
- kingofinternet, on 08/25/2008, -19/+12if you can't see the difference between comparing a candidate to a blond whore and one talking about someone's voting record, you need to stfu.
- getbusyliving, on 08/25/2008, -9/+15He has to appeal to the average American. The same type of people that voted Bush in twice. This tactic works with them.
- FairDinkumMate, on 08/25/2008, -12/+8You don't see ANY difference between running an ad LYING about your opponent's positions & one highlighting his own(not taken out of context) statements?
- Midtowner, on 08/25/2008, -3/+8How does "He voted with George Bush 90% of the time" have any context at all??
-- and technically, it's not even true since George Bush is not in the Senate.
Ah, but facts do not dissuade Obamabots. Please continue. - FairDinkumMate, on 08/25/2008, -0/+1You & I both know that the statement refers to the way Bush viewed & promoted the bills.
Is this the best you've got, a 'technicality'
Do you really want to get into a de bate about whether Obama or McCain's ads deal with FACTS?
I'd be surprised if the right-wing attack machine cuold even define the word properly anymore!
- Midtowner, on 08/25/2008, -3/+8How does "He voted with George Bush 90% of the time" have any context at all??
- bleutuna, on 08/25/2008, -12/+11Shut the hell up you moron.
Your complaint is akin to Obama and McCain agreeing to a knife fight, then when McCain pulls out a gun, you and McCain cry that Obama decides to bring one out too.
BOTH candidates decided to not go 'negative,' but McCain hired Rove, and all that changed. Now the 'Wrong' is trying to play this hand? Screw you and everyone like you. Some of us want a better America, not John McCain's draft-laden, big-corporation-owned piece of crap joke of a country.- btschul, on 08/25/2008, -10/+4Some people realize that there are other alternatives to a "draft-laden, big-corporation-owned piece of crap joke of a country" than socialism. That is why we vote for third party candidates. If you had read my comment, you would have seen that I said: "don't bust my balls for supporting a senile warmonger, because I hate McCain almost as much as I hate your socialist messiah"
- edyang, on 08/25/2008, -12/+9Another example of the tolerant and classy Liberal.
- b4gk1lz, on 08/25/2008, -11/+8Such intelligence and eloquence. Just goes to show you the socialist mentalitiy of Obama followers to say that those who have different opinions are morons. How dare you having a differing opinion than that of Obama. All hail the Messiah...pass the koolaid.
- kingofinternet, on 08/25/2008, -9/+7ur a soshulist commie guh hyuk
go back to rusha
- neonoodle, on 08/25/2008, -2/+3btschul: the fact is if you're voting third party, you're throwing your vote away. There's never been a third party President in the past 150 years of US history. Changing America basically works like evolution. Small natural steps. If you vote for a third party candidate that is completely out there, then he won't be appealing to his "mate" - the US people, and will just die out. However, if you vote for a candidate that is slightly better but still within the mainstream, then if he wins, he could change the country and the people slightly so that they will vote for someone like him again in the future. That's how change happens.
- solboldi, on 08/25/2008, -10/+12Obama just told McCain to 'dignify' his campaign. What a giant hyprocrite is Obama.
- flashback99, on 08/25/2008, -0/+1McCain should ***** dignify us all and have himself arrested for fraud.
- coyote1284, on 08/25/2008, -18/+13McCain "don't know much" but he knows he loves you, and that may be all he needs to know.
/Dupe the story, I dupe my comment. - mnemy, on 08/25/2008, -8/+59I was bracing myself for a nasty smear ad, but I almost lol'd at this light humored attack. Glad to see Obama is still trying to avoid the smear trenches.
- solboldi, on 08/25/2008, -4/+12Yeah, he got Biden to be his attack dog because he is too much of a lightweight.
- smurfsahoy, on 08/25/2008, -3/+7Your point?
Outsourcing for expert talent is an efficient and positive business and leadership practice.
- smurfsahoy, on 08/25/2008, -3/+7Your point?
- solboldi, on 08/25/2008, -4/+12Yeah, he got Biden to be his attack dog because he is too much of a lightweight.
- maximilen, on 08/25/2008, -14/+4McCain couldn't even be funny when asked how many houses he has. Stupid answer he gave. I would have been like "Why do you care, do want to come over or something?"
- neonoodle, on 08/25/2008, -0/+1yep, and that's why you're not in the running for US President.
- loganro, on 08/25/2008, -1/+1Nobody should be asking McCain about his houses in the first place. The have absolutely NOTHING to do with this campaign, and yet the far left idiots try to make it that way.
- jeremyduffy, on 08/25/2008, -22/+4Would have been more impactfull if they had shown Obama's % voting the same as bush.
- mvest20, on 08/25/2008, -13/+11You have to actually vote and be present in Senate sessions in order to have a voting record.
- userperson, on 08/25/2008, -5/+6"Now here's the exact same chart -- OUT OF SCALE!"
Shhh! you're ruining the story:
Obama is our glorious hero who will save while McCain is the evil tyrant who will send us over the brink. There really not 90% the same.- userperson, on 08/25/2008, -0/+2They're*
- jeremyduffy, on 08/26/2008, -1/+2Digg down storm. Wow. So Obama is now up there with drugs, Linux, and all the other things it's not ok to say anything against ever on digg? It wasn't even a negative comment, just an observation.
- userperson, on 08/26/2008, -1/+1Now? he always was.
Don't say anything against the newest messiah . /s - boombye, on 08/26/2008, -1/+1You weren't buried for bashing him, because you didn't say anything negative. You were buried for saying stupid ***** like "if they had shown Obama's % voting the same as bush" which isn't really offensive, it's just retarded.
- userperson, on 08/26/2008, -1/+1Now? he always was.
- DrVermin, on 08/25/2008, -21/+11Wow, again? Those secret muslims work FAST.
- KennMac, on 08/25/2008, -6/+5I'll be the first to reply to the dingbat. Don't feed this troll.
- HiCaP, on 08/25/2008, -1/+7Well then, McCain needs some Ninjas then, everyone
knows Ninjas Kick muslim Ass- PCDestroyer, on 08/25/2008, -2/+2no way. I'm a Muslim and a ninja.
- HiCaP, on 08/25/2008, -0/+2cant be, that would make you a double secret muslim, damn
you force me to play my Chuck Norris card
- smoothdogg00, on 08/25/2008, -30/+25Terrible ad. Its not original, it doesn't contain any substance, and the music is really stupid.
- iamghost, on 08/25/2008, -7/+8considering how slick Obama's print campaigns are this was weak. yes we know McCain isn't economist and yes we know he is in bed with Bush....this ad isn't winning over Obamites or transforming McCain supporters. The song is bad/forced
Epic Fail- byronm, on 08/25/2008, -1/+1huh?
- geneticlone, on 08/25/2008, -3/+4Yeah, is it me or does this look totally fake... Usually the approval of a political commercial comes at the end, no? It seems that it was just taken from one of the other obama ads...
- BoneStamp, on 08/25/2008, -2/+6A McCain supporter has been identified, call the guards.
- jayzDigga, on 08/25/2008, -1/+1Yeah, and why have a white guy covering the song. The original was much better - more soul.
- iamghost, on 08/25/2008, -7/+8considering how slick Obama's print campaigns are this was weak. yes we know McCain isn't economist and yes we know he is in bed with Bush....this ad isn't winning over Obamites or transforming McCain supporters. The song is bad/forced
- Aceman196, on 08/25/2008, -17/+3Sick Burn
- MatthewK, on 08/25/2008, -8/+45Here's some more stuff you might want to see if you haven't already:
"Average percentage change in after-tax income in 2009" (McCain vs Obama): http://img230.imageshack.us/my.php?image=121925702 ...
"John McCain: I graduated fifth from the bottom of my class": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srbX26vp57c
"Barack Obama in Chester, VA": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlZ-_Sstt5I- IneedaSN, on 08/25/2008, -1/+5awesome links
- ftx437, on 08/25/2008, -4/+1Another good video!
http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Great_Obama_Vide ... - QuadZeroRoute, on 08/25/2008, -6/+4Affirmative action says what?
- fasda, on 08/25/2008, -0/+2your a *****
- wafla, on 08/25/2008, -0/+3@QuadZeroRoute was in a hurry... he wanted to say: "Obviously a black person could never do this alone. It takes a nation full of white people to help a black man achieve what whites do every day."
So, yes. @QuadZeroRoute is a racist. Or he just hasn't thought any of this stuff through.
- ultraseamus, on 08/25/2008, -3/+1Giving massive taxes to the rich to help out the poor is easy to get behind, sounds like Robin Hood, it is also an easy stance to take because for the very large majority of the population it will initially put more money in their pockets. But not all of the rich just inherited that money, some actually earned it. If you keep repeating a system where you take away more from the rich and give more to the poor you will continue to move further away from a country where people can carve out a good life for themselves through hard work, and closer to one where the government forces everyone to stay on an equal financial ground.
And that is my thoughts on their differing stance on taxes, feel free to bury me, your negative diggs can't hurt me :). Although I would much prefer an intelligent counter point.- byronm, on 08/25/2008, -0/+2The "rich" should feel its their duty to support the nation that has allowed them to be rich.
I guess people think being rich solves everything with no excuses to support the social systems that allowed you to get rich in the first place. - ultraseamus, on 08/25/2008, -1/+1True, the rich should (and do) support the nation that provided their wealth, and everything would certainly run a lot smoother if they gave even more. But is that really justification to force them to continue to give more and more? It just seems to me that going down that road leads to communism (not the evil kind) which it has been proven just does not work. Our system works because it creates competition, with great rewards. Obama's tax plans seems along the lines of what I think is becoming wrong with our society, the idea that everyone should be a winner no matter how well they do. Many kid's sports are played without score, and some schools have stopped using the word fail because it is too harsh. Is spreading out the wealth not the same?
Also thank you for the intelligent response, I really did not expect one. - MatthewK, on 08/25/2008, -0/+1"The rich get richer, and the poor get poorer."
Does a single person really need millions of dollars to survive? No, they do not. While they are living a life of total luxury, other people live in poverty. Rather than spend the majority of their acquired wealth (which can give people jobs, therefore lifting people out of poverty and helping the overall economy) a lot of them tend to hoard it. Pure greed, plain and simple.
I'm not saying that some people don't deserve to have some wealth, but more often than not the people who *really* deserve it do not get it. Billionaires should be ashamed of themselves. Who honestly needs that much money? That's 1,000 Million USD! I wish there were spirits that would gather up all of the Scrooges and show them what poverty is like.. - ultraseamus, on 08/25/2008, -0/+1Greed is a human flaw, one that becomes evident in a system where there is no limit to the amount of success an individual can have. I only want to know how this tax system is different from communism, or at least how it is not at all closer to communism. The idea that everyone should only have only what they need to live comfortably, and that the wealth should be divided equally among everyone. That is a Utopian society, something that many have strived for in the past, but all have failed at, it simply does not work. I am not saying that this single tax change will do it, just that that mind set will.
If someone has a huge amount of wealth our current system does take care of it, it is just slow. After time if that person, or their family, does not do something that the public is willing to give them more money for, their money will fade away.
- byronm, on 08/25/2008, -0/+2The "rich" should feel its their duty to support the nation that has allowed them to be rich.
- SouljaBoySTFU, on 08/25/2008, -17/+8I want to bury this because there's another article with the same video, but I'm going to digg it because i want this message to be seen by the vast majority of the American people.
So, Dugg. - chukd, on 08/25/2008, -21/+13Its like Huffington Post has hacked Digg so they can get every single dumb post on the front page.
- Monk22, on 08/25/2008, -0/+1it isn't "like" they do, they just do. you'd be surprised what you can turn up with a few well worded google searches.
- jwoulf, on 08/25/2008, -38/+16HUFFPO SPAM
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McCain '08 - elshizzo, on 08/25/2008, -22/+24eh, I'm an Obama supporter, and I don't think that was a very good ad.
- macjaeh, on 08/25/2008, -3/+13I agree, i was hoping for something with a bit more bite.
- byronm, on 08/25/2008, -1/+1It bites in that its not same old "dc politics".
People want change and this is the way to do it. Make light of the useless DC politics and give real solutions.
Its pretty bad when McCain makes fun of scientifically proven facts such as inflating tires. If everyone in america checked their tire pressure once a month we would save more fuel than building 100s of offshore rigs..
Offshore drilling is more about lowering the cost of production thus increasing profits. off shore drilling will never lead to lower prices or energy independance unless McCain follows up with a bill making it illegal to export oil. US oil companies will sell on the global markets and global markets set & make prices above and beyond our own abilities to produce.
- byronm, on 08/25/2008, -1/+1It bites in that its not same old "dc politics".
- macjaeh, on 08/25/2008, -3/+13I agree, i was hoping for something with a bit more bite.
- Bluemanz, on 08/25/2008, -17/+11Since it's the same people submitting these Obama vs McCain stories on a regular basis, I don't understand how you can just ignore the obvious hypocrisy you're showing.
When McCain releases an ad targeting Obama, we see a 1000 digg story about how McCain is immature and an embarrassment to the Republican party. When Obama releases an ad targeting McCain, we see articles about how Obama totally burned McCain.
This is pretty much exactly what Fox News does (and why they're considered an illegitimate news source by many.) If you're going to be biased, at least be less obvious about it.
Personally, I think both candidates are corporate puppets, neither one being worth my vote.- KennMac, on 08/25/2008, -8/+6It's really not at all what Fox News does. The difference is, McCain and Fox news SPIN things in the direction they want. That is their lame form of attack. You're absolutely right; it's immature and embarrassing. Instead of a smearing attack, the Obama campaign goes on the offensive by exposing things that are already in the open. Nothing fabricated.
- Bluemanz, on 08/25/2008, -6/+6Are you all going to sit there and tell me that this ad, which casts McCain as a doddering old fool, is somehow better than McCain's ads casting Obama as young and inexperienced? Really?
- BXRWXR, on 08/25/2008, -3/+2Yes and Yes.
- caramba420, on 08/25/2008, -3/+2Digg is not a news source. It is an aggregate website. Nobody claims that the people that submit articles to Digg are reputable journalists. If you look at the actual article that was linked, it is worded relatively neutral. In fact, the opening paragraph characterizes Democrat strategists as "nervous."
Fox News has the word "news" right in the name. They use mantras such as "We Report You Decide," and "Fair and Balanced," to frame themselves as being an objective news source with reputable journalists in their employ.- Monk22, on 08/25/2008, -1/+1according to harvard they are more objective. and no offense but ill take a bunch of harvard research over your word any day of the week.
- caramba420, on 08/25/2008, -0/+1They are more objective than what? According to who at Harvard?
- KennMac, on 08/25/2008, -8/+6It's really not at all what Fox News does. The difference is, McCain and Fox news SPIN things in the direction they want. That is their lame form of attack. You're absolutely right; it's immature and embarrassing. Instead of a smearing attack, the Obama campaign goes on the offensive by exposing things that are already in the open. Nothing fabricated.
- bushisafag, on 08/25/2008, -11/+36Aside from being a douchebag, McCain a true philistine, like Bush. (I realize the Republican readers will need to look up this word.) Never read a book in his life and has zero intellectual curiosity with regards to anything economic, geographic, or philosophic.
Check out the Youtube video of Ron Paul skewering him on the economy during the primaries. (Or, if you are McCain, look it up on "The Google".)
The debates will be a riot. Barack is going to humiliate him.- boxlight, on 08/25/2008, -13/+7> The debates will be a riot. Barack is going to humiliate him.
Don't be so confident. Obama's strength is his rousing rhetoric. "Yes we can!" won't fly too well in a debating scenario. I think Obama's got his work cut out for him.
If I were a betting man, I'd bet McCain wins with a margin of 54% to 46%.- thelock65, on 08/25/2008, -1/+2no ***** way. mccain can barely put a sentence together even with a TelePrompTer
- smoothdogg00, on 08/25/2008, -8/+5You, my friend, are the douchebag. You've obviously been beaten up by a few of those you call "republican readers" at some points in your life.
- Seedstorm, on 08/25/2008, -4/+5Your hostility towards Republicans doesn't help anyone. I don't consider myself a Republican, but I am more often than not conservative in my views. Even still, I generally give people who are on the other side of the ideological aisle the benefit of the doubt in discussions, and when forming my views. I don't blanketly assume they are all stupid, as your comment about the word 'Philistine' implies.
That being said, I doubt your comments about Senator McCain's intellectual history is literally true. Even taken as rhetoric, they don't necessarily invalidate him as a human being or presidential candidate. Like anyone, he posseses strengths and weaknesses of character, and it's up to the electorate to decide his suitability for the office given the present state of the nation.- PopcornDave, on 08/25/2008, -1/+1Now that's not a nice thing to do. Post an intelligent well thought out comment that the OP might have to look up words in.
/s - smurfsahoy, on 08/25/2008, -1/+1I appreciate your tone and temperance, but suggesting that (hypothetically) clueless people should be president if they're voted there? No... that's everything wrong with democracy. How could a person that just can't grasp situations in general aid the nation in ANY state that it's in?
- PopcornDave, on 08/25/2008, -1/+1Now that's not a nice thing to do. Post an intelligent well thought out comment that the OP might have to look up words in.
- userperson, on 08/25/2008, -1/+9Ron Paul could skewer most politicians on a great many things.
This has less to do with McCain and more to do with the overall ignorance (of which Obama is also a part of). - FamousAnus, on 08/25/2008, -0/+7Now this is interesting. A guy named "bushisafag" gets modded up so highly for a troll post, mostly full of generalizations and speculation. It speaks volumes about the mentality of the people digging him.
Seriously...is there something wrong with being a 'fag'? I thought the democratic party was progressive, and generally tolerant of homosexuality? You are saying it as if it's somehow a bad thing...and that's just not very liberal of you.
As for Obama or McCain...judging by the things that have already happened, and what you just wrote - I believe that in your mind, Obama can pretty much do no wrong. It's not even worth debating it with you.- bagelmaster, on 08/25/2008, -1/+2Fag is almost going the way of "gay" where it no longer means just homosexual people but is used as a general insult. In a way, this does show people's tolerance of homosexuality in general because we can jokingly call each other fag and queer and not be offended.
- flashback99, on 08/25/2008, -0/+1Is that really the best anti-liberal argument you can come up with? you're not even trying.
- FamousAnus, on 08/25/2008, -0/+2@flashback99
That's another interesting response...it's not even intended to be an "anti-liberal" argument. I'm pointing out the fact that the original poster is advocating the slightly more liberal candidate, while acting like anything BUT a liberal.
It's an interesting reaction that you interpreted that as an anti-liberal argument though. Why would it be one?
Believe it or not...I don't dislike liberals as a general rule. I actually consider myself to be liberal on quite a few issues. I do dislike hypocrisy though...
- drmangrum, on 08/25/2008, -2/+3I was gonna dig you up until you went into your little republican bashing tirade. Not all Republicans are heartless puppets, just like not all Democrats are bleeding heart pansies.
The vast majority of the voting public are fence sitters. They may lean one way or the other, but are willing to listen and make an intelligence decision. Not everyone are Fox and CNN stooges.
- boxlight, on 08/25/2008, -13/+7> The debates will be a riot. Barack is going to humiliate him.
- yeskamil, on 08/25/2008, -11/+4Perfect.
- doctorgrim, on 08/25/2008, -17/+12Awesome ad! Way to go Obama camp! I'd like to see more of this kind of thing from them.
- boxlight, on 08/25/2008, -27/+40I hate to tell you Obama fans this, but that ad is pretty weak.
McCain's new ads -- the one with Joe Biden saying Obama doesn't have the experience, and the one courting Clinton supporters to vote Republican -- are much stronger.- MScrip, on 08/25/2008, -13/+7Well, Obama's allowed to have a few bad ads once in a while.
Remember the Paris/Britney ad from McCain? Winner!- radiofrequency, on 08/25/2008, -0/+6That was a great ad.
- bleutuna, on 08/25/2008, -7/+5I agree this ad's not that strong. However, you're wrong about McCain's new ads.
The first has someone in the primary attacking Obama. That person became Obama's VP.
The second says that Hilary wasn't selected as VP because she attacked Obama in the primary.
Your idiot candidate's idiot ads disprove his idiot point. Way to show you're full of *****, McCain/Rove.- solboldi, on 08/25/2008, -4/+12So if McCain's VP pick actually stated during the primary he was against McCain being President, that wouldn't be a great attack content for a Democratic TV ad?
What are you smoking? Even Biden didn't consider Obama to be ready for the White House. Changed his tune though to get on the ticket. Pure pandering...pure flip-flopping. - boxlight, on 08/25/2008, -2/+8> The first has someone in the primary attacking Obama. That person became Obama's VP.
It wasn't just an attack. It was Biden -- Obama's VP and a senior, respected, experienced Democrat -- saying that Obama was not a good choice because he'd need "on the job training". In the same ad Biden says he would be happy to run with McCain, that the country would be better off.
This is *damning* stuff. Obama's camp is going to have to spin their butts off to shake this one.
If Democrats don't recognize McCain's ad as strong, and Obama's as weak, then they're in big big trouble. - Jordan117, on 08/25/2008, -1/+2Yes, because this is the first time in the history of American politics that any of the contenders said anything negative about the eventual winner. Spare me.
Also, the Biden ad is amusing for those that know its context. In the clip of him praising McCain and saying he'd be an honor to run "with or against", they cut off rather abruptly. That's because the host of the program immediately asked Biden to clarify, and he went on to say that he had recommended John Kerry to ask McCain to be his running mate.
Really shows the deep contrast between the true maverick McCain of yesteryear and the right-wing sycophant he's turned into today.
- solboldi, on 08/25/2008, -4/+12So if McCain's VP pick actually stated during the primary he was against McCain being President, that wouldn't be a great attack content for a Democratic TV ad?
- MScrip, on 08/25/2008, -13/+7Well, Obama's allowed to have a few bad ads once in a while.
- HiCaP, on 08/25/2008, -30/+29WOW, this is really Funny, because that's what Biden said about obama.
OH this being another ***** Huffonmepost Spam, it's Buried. - geardosdotnet, on 08/25/2008, -8/+11elections should be based on the intelligence and positions of the two candidates, not on who has a better ad team. Smart votes don't even watch much TV.
- KennMac, on 08/25/2008, -4/+2I can't tell if you intentionally meant to contradict yourself there or not.
- userperson, on 08/25/2008, -3/+3"elections should be based on the intelligence and positions of the two candidates"
They should also be honorable and tell the truth. *stifles laughter*
If elections were based on such things we wouldn't have these two guys, anyway. - smurfsahoy, on 08/25/2008, -2/+1Okay, you go over to the corner and work on your open letter to the people of 1845 about your concerns, while the rest of us try to steer the country that is actually in front of us in a way that will least screw everybody over.
- byronm, on 08/25/2008, -1/+2Well, it is on YouTube, so us smart technically savy voters can still get a kick out of it.
- emegmac, on 08/25/2008, -9/+9I have not yet decided who will get my vote. But I will say I am getting sick of these ads. Obama is getting good at attacking McCain and Bush and promising change. I agree with some of that. I am from Illinois and am leaning toward Obama but what has he done for my state? Spent all of his time running for president. He is getting good at pointing fingers but not at offering answers. I hope one of them starts to prove to me how is better. Also I dislike like Obamas VP choice. Everyone keeps saying that the VP does nothing in office so it does not matter, but we have had 43 presidents in our history, and 4 have been assassinated and one resigned. So with them odds, you are voting on either to rule the country.
Please hope one of these men will be a good leader.- KennMac, on 08/25/2008, -3/+3It looks like you're doing nothing but basing your decision on the current events. Read up on the issues. It's black and white. It should be pretty clear. Vote McCain to continue all the same failed Bush policies.
- PopcornDave, on 08/25/2008, -3/+1No, McCain's going to institute his own failing policies.
And Barak's change message just got flushed down the ***** the moment he brought in a Washington leech like Biden. Biden would have been much better in a cabinet position as opposed to VP unless we're going to have Cheney II in 2008.
Frankly at this point, since this has all become the equivalent of a high school student body race, I fully expect McCain to choose a woman for a VP just for ***** and giggles.
Regardless of who wins the race, we're really voting for which VP we think will make a good president when the president expires in office - naturally or helped.
- PopcornDave, on 08/25/2008, -3/+1No, McCain's going to institute his own failing policies.
- solboldi, on 08/25/2008, -2/+7"I am from Illinois and am leaning toward Obama but what has he done for my state? Spent all of his time running for president."
Yep...Obama was running for office while his mother was dying of cancer. He was too busy to visit her. She died before he did visit.That didn't stop him from running a TV ad about his healthcare platform and putting her in the video though. - libertao, on 08/25/2008, -1/+1Plus 4 who died in office of natural causes.
I don't see what makes Biden a bad choice according to your logic though. Surely a fellow presidential candidate is the preferred option over a random politician who didn't consider themselves ready to run for office. - jdh358, on 08/25/2008, -0/+1It's not that he's done nothing for your state. It's that you only know what you know. If people would freaking pay attention to the issues and what he's talking about - and follow what he has done (it's all on his site) - then you'd know who to vote for right now.
- KennMac, on 08/25/2008, -3/+3It looks like you're doing nothing but basing your decision on the current events. Read up on the issues. It's black and white. It should be pretty clear. Vote McCain to continue all the same failed Bush policies.
- j0hnk377y, on 08/25/2008, -19/+14Do some research on:
Biden on Indian's and Dunkin Donuts
Biden on Inner City moms talking to their children
This guy is a foot in the mouth waiting to happen......It's going to be fun watching this unveil. - PolishLogic, on 08/25/2008, -15/+7Proper grammar is more gooder.
Buried as spam. - Seedstorm, on 08/25/2008, -15/+20I don't see what's so great about this ad. It certainly doesn't demonstrate anything to me about Senator McCain's lack of grasp of economics or cronyism with the current administration.
The quote is meaningless without its original context, much less a damning confession. Absent that, all the ad has to present by way of argument is a slick re-imagining of an old pop song, and photos of Senator McCain with President Bush, which is not surprising, considering they are both public servants.
I am not trying to single out Senator Obama; Senator McCain is probably just as guilty of publishing ads that contain nothing more than innuendo and ad hominem comments. What concerns me the most is that people seem to find this acceptable, rather than rational discussion/argument based on full disclosure of the facts. I know, I'm probably being unrealistic if I expect that expressing my viewpoint in a little comment will do anything to turn the tide of this disturbing trend.
But, for what it's worth...- Bluemanz, on 08/25/2008, -4/+9I completely agree with you. Unfortunately, it seems anybody with anything rational to say on this subject are being dugg down. Seems like Digg is about as Fair and Balanced as some other news outlets I know of.
- InfiniteNothing, on 08/25/2008, -6/+3Strawman: Digg does not claim to be fair and balanced.
- smurfsahoy, on 08/25/2008, -0/+4Elections are about psychology. Repeating "facts" over and over is more psychologically effective in a commercial length period of time than explaining the reasoning behind them is. This is an effective ad, QED
If you want more meat, go to newspapers, etc. where repetition is NOT more effective per unit of available argument space.
- cadmiumpaint, on 08/25/2008, -11/+5great idea......but the execution is bad.
you'd think with all the liberals in the creative industries, Obama could get some real slick looking ads donated to his campaign...although that would prob violate campaign contribution laws. - Saitekc, on 08/25/2008, -14/+7I like Obama, but Biden is a piece of *****. He's snuggled in with the FBI and the RIAA on making ridiculous anti-piracy laws that will ***** over everyone, not just the pirates.
To tell you the truth, I'm glad I don't live in America; all of the presidential candidates are ***** morons who should not be running the country. If you're over the age of 45-50, you shouldn't be able to run for president anyways. Anyone over that age in used to old habits and don't know what needs to happen in this day and age.- cadmiumpaint, on 08/25/2008, -4/+3i'm glad you don't live in America as well. I'm glad you don't get to vote and use something trivial as a stance on the RIAA to decide who you're voting for. There are more important issues facing this country right now than whether or not you can safely steal music and pr0n via the torrent networks.
go back to the kiddie table, thanks.- CalcProgrammer1, on 08/25/2008, -1/+2Trivial? I think not, Biden's stance on Net Neutrality and his support for the evil society known as the RIAA is a huge fault! You think politics is all about the Iraq War? Yeah, that's important, but there are issues here in the country that we need to cover, the massive power behind the entertainment industry is a huge issue, one issue that actually affects everyone. If we let them sue people without backing like they are now, they will continue to grow into a superpower. That we can't let happen. Biden's statement about the RIAA was a tremendous dent in the Democratic appeal, in my opinion.
- thespiff, on 08/25/2008, -1/+6Please, tell us where you are from so that we may all ***** on your government!
- cadmiumpaint, on 08/25/2008, -4/+3i'm glad you don't live in America as well. I'm glad you don't get to vote and use something trivial as a stance on the RIAA to decide who you're voting for. There are more important issues facing this country right now than whether or not you can safely steal music and pr0n via the torrent networks.
- GregFD3S, on 08/25/2008, -13/+8John McClain
Yippie ki-yay *****! - Cyberdactyl, on 08/25/2008, -21/+26Two front page diggs on Obama's "Don't know Much" ad.
The far left is in real need for a hard-on fix this Monday are they not?- byronm, on 08/25/2008, -3/+2far left?
Since when did the economy become far left? Are you suggesting that jobs, employment and middle class families are too much for conservatives to handle and now "Far left"
yikes.. you're beyond lost buddy. - flashback99, on 08/25/2008, -1/+1Far-Left? How much does Faux pay you?
Or do you come up with this ***** all by yourself? - Derrekito, on 08/26/2008, -1/+1Compared to your modern day neocon I suppose you can call Obama supporters "far left". Otherwise, Obama is a moderate, as are most of his supporters.
- byronm, on 08/25/2008, -3/+2far left?
- Me0wmix, on 08/25/2008, -17/+15That was an excellent ad.
- chrissku, on 08/25/2008, -15/+18Bulls-eye! Right on Obama. Nice ad.
- perfectsquare, on 08/25/2008, -4/+1This was not endorsed by Obama.
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