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seattletimes.nwsource.com — Continuing to press the themes of values, faith and patriotism, Sen. Barack Obama exhorted Americans on Wednesday to volunteer for public service, pledging to dramatically expand opportunities for those accepting his challenge.
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- davecachia, on 07/03/2008, -23/+11The man has spoken.
- SouljaBoyGoDie, on 07/04/2008, -6/+6Just... shut up.
- fyngyrz, on 07/04/2008, -7/+12Tell you what. I pledge to volunteer if he'll pledge to stop ***** on the constitution with his ridiculous support for FISA, which is 100% unconstitutional because it allows wiretapping prior to obtaining a warrant which is *specifically* unconstitutional, with his support for gun control, which is also 100% unconstitutional (does "shall not infringe" sound familiar?), and so on.
For a fellow who claims to be a "constitutional law professor" (he said that on March 30, 2007, the facts are that he taught a course on constitutional law and is listed as a senior lecturer at the Chicago school of law), he sure doesn't take the oath he took seriously:
"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter"
Just another shill looking to control the citizens, rather than serve them, near as I can determine from his actions.
So yeah, I'll volunteer. Soon as he begins doing his darned job,
Mind you, I'm voting for him, because the only other choice is McCain, which is ENTIRELY out of the question, but that doesn't mean I'm a fan of his more idiotic positions.- lajaw, on 07/04/2008, -0/+1http://constitutionparty.com/
- scottc, on 07/05/2008, -2/+1His position on gun control is not unconstitutional. His position on FISA is unconstitutional. I had fully intended on voting for him, but at this point I'm going to wait and see how many of his positions he holds onto before making that decision.
- fyngyrz, on 07/05/2008, -0/+2scottc, last I heard, he was for gun control. That's unconstitutional, period. Has he changed position? Can you direct me to the change?
- Mightbiteyou, on 07/03/2008, -34/+15Work shall set you free when you work for mother Rus... I mean good old USA.
Seriously, we pay taxes so we don't have to volunteer our time, instead of throwing money out the window on stimulus checks start some public works projects.- ADVIZR, on 07/04/2008, -6/+8You should just stick to shopping. Make Bush proud. If you don't, clearly you're a communist. ...Or maybe a terrorist. Both?
- PopcornDave, on 07/05/2008, -0/+4That's the biggest load of ***** that I've heard in a long time.
There's nothing wrong with volunteering. Government can't and shouldn't be the long arm of everything.
That said, while I hope that Obama can inspire people to volunteer their time and energy, I'm afraid that you're going to have trouble prying the controllers out of the hands of the youth of America.- hittnrun, on 07/07/2008, -1/+1If Obama asked you people to eat excrement, you would all be here spamming this board, telling us how great it tastes and how dumb we are for not being sh!t eaters like Obama wants us all to be.
Pathetic. - Mightbiteyou, on 07/08/2008, -0/+0There is something horribly wrong with supporting bailouts for people who are out of work and asking others to volunteer. I have a crazy idea, instead of giving some people money for nothing lets hire them to do the work you want people to volunteer for?
- hittnrun, on 07/07/2008, -1/+1If Obama asked you people to eat excrement, you would all be here spamming this board, telling us how great it tastes and how dumb we are for not being sh!t eaters like Obama wants us all to be.
- hamobu, on 07/03/2008, -29/+25Maybe Obama's speech had more substance to it, but the news snippet about Obama had nothing but feel good platitudes.
McCain has been known to flip-flop, but I do have to admire that he is sticking with free trade and war with Iraq. Both of those positions are unpopular, yet McCain has openly embraced them to his detriment.- DeskFlyer, on 07/03/2008, -10/+7Because people are opposed to a person who is likely to touch off World War III.
- barc0001, on 07/04/2008, -7/+20Hang on... you admire someone who is doing the wrong thing because they refuse to change their mind about doing the wrong thing? You admire Ted Bundy for never wavering on his "death to women" position as well?
- korvan504521, on 07/06/2008, -1/+2This is a democratic republic, "wrong thing" is your opinion. Other people agree with him. Just because you don't agree with him doesn't mean you can't respect and admire him for the way he acts.
There is rarely a wrong or right in politics, it's all just opinion. - slifty, on 07/09/2008, -0/+1@ korvan504521
Incorrect! Opinions stop being opinions when reality gets involved. Politics is a place where these two concepts tend to meet - which is why there is so much aggression surrounding it.
- korvan504521, on 07/06/2008, -1/+2This is a democratic republic, "wrong thing" is your opinion. Other people agree with him. Just because you don't agree with him doesn't mean you can't respect and admire him for the way he acts.
- Sluglas, on 07/03/2008, -25/+77Wow, how original!
"In his January 2002 State of the Union Address, President George W. Bush called on all Americans to dedicate at least two years—the equivalent of 4,000 hours—in service to their communities, their country and the world. Bush's USA Freedom Corps works to strengthen the non-profit sector, recognize volunteers, and help connect individuals with volunteer opportunities."
So he's not just another politician right?- ozydingo, on 07/05/2008, -9/+17I don't get your point. Because another politician has done it before, he can't do it without being criticized? Was it wrong of him to ask willing Americans to volunteer for public service? Does it in some way prove that he's just like every other politician?
- korvan504521, on 07/06/2008, -1/+2I think it more likens him to someone digg loves to hate. . . which is a bit ironic.
- Bkaufman, on 07/05/2008, -13/+23It proves that Obama's "change" platform is a sham. It is a bunch of Socialist ideas that have already been tried before (see Great Society).
- bruce86, on 07/05/2008, -1/+3Your logic is flawed. If you believe the OP's statement to be true. Then you are implying that obama's idea is socialist, then bush and obama had the same idea. ZOMG! Bush = Socialist
- ozydingo, on 07/05/2008, -1/+2In addition to bruce's point, a platform of change does not imply that there is absolutely no similarities, that absolutely everything must be changed in any conceivable way. That would be pretty retarded. My original reply holds against your comment.
- korvan504521, on 07/06/2008, -0/+2well Bush certainly isn't a conservative in the vein of the 90s. He's spends more tax money than any two democrats. Fiscally, he is far more on the left than the right.
- Mike415, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1True, but to be fair, there should be an asterisk somewhere to note the overthrowing of two governments, which ain't cheap.
- GregIsLegend, on 07/05/2008, -10/+25***** McCain, ***** Obama, ***** everyone running for president right now.
When Obama sold us and our privacy out, he made it clear that it's a dog eat dog world and no matter who you vote for, you're going to get the same end result with a slightly varied practice leading up to it.
I am more resentful toward obama than I am McCain. I never believed in McCain, but Obama gave me hope, and then it turns out his promises to uphold the constitution and restore our civil liberties were just lies. It was crushing. So let me reitterate.
***** Barack Obama. - n00ptic, on 07/05/2008, -4/+4You do know that Bush originally created this organization to get volunteers for the Department of Homeland Security, right? I seem to remember people jokingly referring to it as Bush's version of the Hitler Youth.
Anyway, USA Freedom Corps ended up being nothing more than a loose network for funneling money into and recruiting volunteers for primarily conservative charities. It's a bit of a joke, and the only real purpose it served was being a smokescreen to hide the massive funding cut that hit Americorps and the Peace Corps.
Oddly enough, Obama's plan is to increase the funding and scope of Americorps and the Peace Corps, and provide tuition reimbursement as part of the program. So, if you don't see the difference between these two programs it just means that you don't know what the hell you're talking about. - buildbyflying, on 07/05/2008, -1/+2if your argument could be validated, then I'd say it's case closed, but I haven't found anything to support your claims... other than a rather Orwellian name.
- ozydingo, on 07/05/2008, -9/+17I don't get your point. Because another politician has done it before, he can't do it without being criticized? Was it wrong of him to ask willing Americans to volunteer for public service? Does it in some way prove that he's just like every other politician?
- brjohnson789, on 07/03/2008, -11/+46It should be pretty clear where this is going. More and more rhetoric for people to 'serve' their country. Then, they'll start creating 'benefits' for you to 'volunteer', like a better college loan or some garbage. They'll make more and more benefits available, while at the same time the costs they offer benefits for get so outrageously expensive that unless you are pretty wealthy you basically need to 'volunteer' a couple years of your life to have any chance at paying for college etc.
- dinot, on 07/03/2008, -12/+11So you're saying that we're all entitled something for nothing? He's calling people to volunteer, he's not forcing them.
- Ricky81682, on 07/04/2008, -8/+4He's not saying it'll be force. He was saying that they will take from just volunteering for the sake of volunteering and add incentives to volunteer, and then perhaps requirements to volunteer to get government services (why this is such a bad thing I can't figure). That's what Bill Clinton did with AmeriCorps.
- dinot, on 07/04/2008, -8/+6Again. I don't see what's wrong with that.
- Laughsatyou, on 07/05/2008, -1/+3so you literally have to be a slave to the system before you get the privilege to pay your dues through taxes?
- brad3378, on 07/05/2008, -0/+16Obama's plan is to pay up to $4000 towards tuition for students willing to perform 100 hours of community service. $40 per hour tax free ............sorta.
Citizens will eventually pay that money back in the form of taxes (whether or not you go to college)
So basically you'll be working for your money twice.....
Once when you perform the community service project and
again when you join the workforce and pay higher taxes.
Hopefully the community service projects will be used as an efficient replacement for bloated government employees and programs. And hopefully colleges won't exploit students for more tuition now that they have a new source of funding. - erikwithaknotac, on 07/05/2008, -3/+3That is a hell of a lot better than not having ANY chance to pay for college..I'll take it...Oh wait...i have!
- brad3378, on 07/05/2008, -0/+6Do you know what happened when the Mortgage industry flooded the market with cheap interest rates? People started charging more for their homes because they knew others could afford to borrow more.
If you're a student don't let the same thing happen to your tuition rates.
Mark my words. If students have more money in the form of scholarships, savings, grants, etc., Colleges will raise tuition rates to maximize profits.
In other words, be careful what you wish for.
- brad3378, on 07/05/2008, -0/+6Do you know what happened when the Mortgage industry flooded the market with cheap interest rates? People started charging more for their homes because they knew others could afford to borrow more.
- SouthsideIrish, on 07/08/2008, -0/+1Of course your uni will raise your tuition 4000, thus making the volunteering worthless and forcing everyone to be a slave to the government.
- dinot, on 07/03/2008, -12/+11So you're saying that we're all entitled something for nothing? He's calling people to volunteer, he's not forcing them.
- LonewackoDotCom, on 07/03/2008, -9/+16Part of Obama's plan sounds like this:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=RuRJkemxomw
Hopefully he'll release the details soon and let us know whether his plan includes stylish uniforms too. - sfharper, on 07/03/2008, -4/+5As if that were any different? Not that I mind but ...
- GhostyBoy, on 07/03/2008, -16/+62Fake change.
- Canadian0207, on 07/05/2008, -2/+2loose change?
- ordig, on 07/03/2008, -6/+73I'll volunteer when my phone company quits spying on me.
http://digg.com/politics/Obama_Voters_Protest_His_ ...- BigMacMcChicken, on 07/04/2008, -13/+2nobody's interested in your telephone conversations, guy. The NSA really doesn't care what time you're hitting the club, or who's watching the game at your house.
What's with all these people thinking that they're so important the NSA is listening to them?- rationalbeats, on 07/04/2008, -4/+10What is there no NASCAR on today or something?
- BigMacMcChicken, on 07/05/2008, -0/+0ooooo....9 negatives and a NASCAR reference. I must have really hit a nerve. Listen dumbasses, the NSA doesn't give a rats ass about your phone calls. Stop trying to make yourself out to be some secret revolutionary who is paranoid about the NSA. The NSA only cares about important people and you're not one of them.
I'm sorry, but the NSA has bigger fish to fry...you know, people who actually do stuff.
The only thing you pose a danger to is the bag of doritos next to your monitor.
-"Dude did you see that thing about Cheney on Digg today?"
-"Shut up, this isn't a secure line."
Dumbass.
- rz8472, on 07/05/2008, -0/+15Let's make a deal. We'll start volunteering for the government when the government volunteers to work for us rather than the special interests.
- BigMacMcChicken, on 07/04/2008, -13/+2nobody's interested in your telephone conversations, guy. The NSA really doesn't care what time you're hitting the club, or who's watching the game at your house.
- db0255, on 07/03/2008, -23/+6OMG, a politician that uses common sense?!!?!
*HEAD EXPLODES* - knumbknuts, on 07/03/2008, -9/+6Weee... sound bite.
Up next: Cancer Cures. - coffee200am, on 07/04/2008, -9/+8As long as I'm paid. A "Thank you" doesn't pay the bills.
- DiggGeek24, on 07/04/2008, -5/+4I see you part of the ME ME ME generation
- johndavidjack, on 07/04/2008, -4/+3Maybe I work hard for what I have. Why should I share it with other people that don't always deserve it?
Am I an *****? Yes, but it's called America, and capitalism. If you want something, work for it, not take a free handout... - coffee200am, on 07/04/2008, -3/+3Will you volunteer to pay my internet bill...it's only fair...
- johndavidjack, on 07/04/2008, -4/+3Maybe I work hard for what I have. Why should I share it with other people that don't always deserve it?
- Aidje, on 07/04/2008, -1/+7You should look up the word "volunteer."
- publiclurker, on 07/05/2008, -1/+5Someone would have to pay him to first.
- PopcornDave, on 07/05/2008, -4/+2I suppose you crap on the Big Brother/Big Sister organizations as well? The Red Cross? Earth Day beach cleanups?
Not only that, do you use FOSS software? Maybe you should pay for all of it if you do.
- DiggGeek24, on 07/04/2008, -5/+4I see you part of the ME ME ME generation
- LansingSterling, on 07/04/2008, -3/+49I'll do my part when congress begin to do theirs and bring back the old US
- WiseWeasel, on 07/05/2008, -1/+2"Remember back when women couldn't vote? And certain people weren't allowed on the golf course? Pepperidge Farm remembers."
- krewl, on 07/04/2008, -20/+13One step closer to communism...
- acroyear2, on 07/04/2008, -4/+7volunteerism is a step closer to communism?
- madmanz123, on 07/05/2008, -4/+6Massively stupid comment.
- odinfire, on 07/04/2008, -6/+42Maybe Obama could volunteer some of his millions instead of seeking discounts on his mortgage and asking low income people that already work 13 hours a day to volunteer their time.
- blorc, on 07/04/2008, -10/+16Obama: I want YOU... to leech off the government.
- geardosdotnet, on 07/04/2008, -22/+16I feel bad for Americans.
They have a choice of 2 candidates who both profess their belief of an invisible man in the sky.- toxicityj, on 07/04/2008, -4/+8That wouldn't be a problem if they wouldn't let their beliefs get in the way of running the country. But, I've yet to see a candidate that can do that.
- HencheMann, on 07/04/2008, -9/+23...whoa, Whoa! WHOA! Nobody said anything about me needing to actually do ANYTHING for change to occur!
I knew it! He's just like the rest of 'em! - Zlorp, on 07/04/2008, -6/+7meh, someone else will volunteer, i dont have to worry.
- Badandy127, on 07/04/2008, -6/+27Sound familiar?
*cough*"A Thousand Points of Light*cough*
We don't need this emotional crap emphasizing these softie attitudes. We need to be fiscally responsible and strengthen our dollar so we won't continue to be in this huge whole.- Badandy127, on 07/04/2008, -1/+9Ugghh.
"hole"
My bad.
- Badandy127, on 07/04/2008, -1/+9Ugghh.
- manningbowl135, on 07/04/2008, -7/+25Pass.
Digg me down. But if you do, volunteer. - brad3378, on 07/04/2008, -4/+51In other words, we need volunteers because our government is going bankrupt.
With a national debt of $31,142.33 per citizen, it is clear that we can no longer afford big government.
http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/ - ericjohnson0, on 07/04/2008, -9/+31Yeah. He wants other people to 'volunteer.' Meanwhile, he's getting the same, lucrative deals on financing that Dodd and others got.
Obama and Mr. Clean and the Beacon of Hope?
Hardly...
http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/obama_loan_scan ...
In addition, I don't want to hear about 'noble aspirations' from a guy who chooses his friends so poorly.
http://thesaloon.net/blog/_archives/2008/6/6/37320 ... - MforMike, on 07/04/2008, -11/+4OBAMA ASKS, HE SHALL RECEIVE
- rationalbeats, on 07/04/2008, -11/+41When you decide to step up and uphold the Constitution, I will pay heed to your condescending *****.
Until then Obama, take you anti-Constitutional ideology over to your kind of folks at Fox News. - Joe_rigby, on 07/04/2008, -5/+23I would be aghast by some of the comments here, but that was before Obama pledged to increase funding from the GOVERNMENT to FAITH-based initiatives, a practice started by Bush.
What the hell, man?- rationalbeats, on 07/04/2008, -2/+15He also said that he will put a 5 year hold on the next NASA space ship project Constellation. He said he does not believe in space exploration.
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/constellation/ma ...- Joe_rigby, on 07/04/2008, -2/+10I think McCain is ridiculous, he wants to cut the education budget to help fund NASA, and I could understand how things are tight budget-wise right now, and why Obama might be a little hesitant to fund a huge NASA outfitting.
However, I do not understand how he can (even if he's just saying it to draw in the right-wing voters) say with a clear-conscience that the separation of church and state would not be further injured by increasing this type of funding.
I regret voting for Obama, until he further clarifies his positions, however I will not vote for McCain because he's an idiot.
Rock and a hard place. - wexmajor, on 07/05/2008, -4/+1***** good. Space exploration is stupid. Maybe we should focus on the MYRIAD ASSLOAD of problems right here on Earth.
- Joe_rigby, on 07/05/2008, -0/+1Space technologies have provided solutions to some of the problems right here on earth.
- Joe_rigby, on 07/04/2008, -2/+10I think McCain is ridiculous, he wants to cut the education budget to help fund NASA, and I could understand how things are tight budget-wise right now, and why Obama might be a little hesitant to fund a huge NASA outfitting.
- korvan504521, on 07/06/2008, -0/+1Faith based programs have high rates of success. But I don't think they deserve money any more than non faith based charities.
- rationalbeats, on 07/04/2008, -2/+15He also said that he will put a 5 year hold on the next NASA space ship project Constellation. He said he does not believe in space exploration.
- MikeFallopian, on 07/04/2008, -4/+21Faith, values, patriotism and service - did Obama just go back in time and win the 2000 Republican nomination?
- geardosdotnet, on 07/04/2008, -3/+7yup, Obama is another bible thumper. This kind of bizarre religious zealotry would never fly in a European country or even in Canada.
- Sicarius, on 07/05/2008, -1/+6Nope. He won the 2008 Democratic nomination so he doesn't need the base anymore. Since he knows there is no way that you will vote Republican your usefulness is at an end. See Wright, Rezko, et al.
- Mike415, on 07/07/2008, -0/+0You mean like a normal politician? I don't understand even remotely why people believed he would stay to the left. Why would he? He's locked-in the democratic voters. What's he got to lose? This is politics as usual, people. Nothing to see here.
- 00z003, on 07/04/2008, -5/+10Step up! Volunteer, quit smoking, eat more vegetables, help your community, join the military, buckle up, go green!!!!!!!!
- nontoxyc, on 07/04/2008, -7/+27Yeah well maybe I would volunteer for Obama except I NEED MEDICAL HELP BECAUSE HE STABBED ME IN THE BACK ON FISA! HE'S JUST LIKE BUSH! Seriously someone call 911--the nation has been hijacked.
- dball48, on 07/04/2008, -7/+19Americans ask obama to stop being such a tool.
- InetRoadkill, on 07/04/2008, -4/+31Americans ask Obama to step up and lead the charge against fascism by taking charge of the senate democrats and working to defeat the FISA bill in its current form. Sitting on one's ass while criminals run roughshod over the constitution and saying it's the best we can hope for is not acceptable.
His lack of leadership in sustaining the FISA filibuster is unforgivable. Especially for a candidate running on a change platform.- ThePantsParty, on 07/05/2008, -0/+6You seem to have somehow gotten the impression Obama doesn't want the FISA bill to pass....
- DiggGeek24, on 07/04/2008, -11/+3I do not have a problem every person should have to do 2 years of public service when you get involved with your country you care more it.
- DiggGeek24, on 07/04/2008, -7/+1Oh I hurt the little diggers that live in there mothers basement.
I volunteer at a local rest home every 2nd sunday you should try it instead of bitching on digg- ohnoihavenoname, on 07/04/2008, -2/+5Yeah, you -choose- to volunteer. So do I. But you just said I should be -forced- to by the government. For two f*cking years. So hell yeah I dugg you down.
- zombies187, on 07/05/2008, -2/+1I think you have the right idea. Its too bad so many are so against it. Everyone might moan and groan, but in the end it may be some of the greatest years of your life. We don't share a common burden in our society. Theres no solidarity. Public service is good for everyone.
- DiggGeek24, on 07/04/2008, -7/+1Oh I hurt the little diggers that live in there mothers basement.
- liquidmetalband, on 07/04/2008, -9/+10For the Navy?
But no, seriously, Obama is a ***** head and so is McCain. You're all brainless *****. Peace. - RSS14, on 07/04/2008, -5/+14He had so much potential, it's a shame.
- ericjohnson0, on 07/04/2008, -6/+8VOLUNTEER! YOU MUST OBEY!
http://minihan.net/obeyobama.jpg- ADVIZR, on 07/04/2008, -6/+3Yes, because trying to inspire Americans to think about each other -- rather than just shopping and starting new illegal wars -- is a very scary thing to you and all McCainers.
- DiggGeek24, on 07/04/2008, -7/+2I see you part of the ME ME ME generation
- bxblox, on 07/04/2008, -5/+38Obama needs to step up and stop supporting unconstitutional bills... Go volunteer yourself...
- DiggGeek24, on 07/04/2008, -11/+3How is it unconstitutional he is not going to make you volunteer he said you should plus he is giving you benefits.
You part of the ME ME ME generation
I volunteer at a local rest home every 2nd sunday you should try it instead of bitching on digg- rationalbeats, on 07/04/2008, -1/+6When you decide to take the time to educate yourself with current events please come back and respond.
- DiggGeek24, on 07/04/2008, -11/+3How is it unconstitutional he is not going to make you volunteer he said you should plus he is giving you benefits.
- kookbutt, on 07/04/2008, -13/+25***** YOU Obama, stop trying to be a black JFK. All you are is just another corporate political tool that can be bought and controlled by big business and oil companies. Just look at your pitiful voting record. You actions speak louder than your words.
- johndavidjack, on 07/04/2008, -1/+5I compare Obama to a black John Edwards, but dugg anyway...
- hiikeeba, on 07/05/2008, -1/+7Ah! You mean he's a POLITICIAN! Why didn't you just say so?
- erhanaltay, on 07/04/2008, -11/+10He can ask me to volunteer all he wants but the minute it becomes involuntary, I'll pick up my gun and shoot him down.
- dwg3333, on 07/04/2008, -18/+3OBAMA 08 is the only way that the US will return to the power house it once was.
- johndavidjack, on 07/04/2008, -3/+2You're a retard, period.
- compulsive1, on 07/05/2008, -1/+6That was Ron Paul- the only real principled politician in the race. You could have had a real leader, but no, we need a ***** big-talking rock star over a statesman. He's not even elected yet, and he's already betraying his voters. What a sell out.
- ericdano, on 07/04/2008, -3/+13Maybe as soon as the Senate and Congress actually get off their asses and do something. Control Gas prices! It is insane that NO ONE has stepped up and said "Whoa" and halted this raping that is going on. Geeze, like 6 months ago it was $1.50 cheaper.
What exactly has this Democratic Congress done? Nothing. Since they have been in, nothing has happened. In fact, the only stuff that has happened is BAD stuff.
Volunteer. Yeah. NOT!- PopcornDave, on 07/05/2008, -1/+5So what exactly is Congress supposed to do about gas prices? Price controls did such a fantastic job back when Nixon tried them.
The only thing Congress should be doing is creating incentives to find alternative energy sources and the ablility to convert the vehicles that we have today to said sources. If the government put as much energy in to that as they put in to the moon shot program back in the 60's we'd have the problem soved fairly quickly I suspect.- hiikeeba, on 07/05/2008, -0/+4Problem is, Congress accepts a lot of campaign donations from the oil lobby. Why would people bought by the oil lobby do something to hurt it?
- synapz, on 07/05/2008, -1/+7Erm... your other points aside, how exactly do you want our government to "control" gas prices? And if you think government can just control prices so that they're what you want them to be, why stop at gas? Why not control the price of *everything*? Why not drop the price of everything, so that everything is cheap for everyone? Right? Right?
*sigh*- WiseWeasel, on 07/05/2008, -0/+2Well, one thing they could do is regulate oil futures trading, like they do for other energy sector futures, so that speculation is not allowed to drive the cost of fuel.
- WiseWeasel, on 07/05/2008, -0/+2Just wanted to add to that, but missed the editing window...
Since the dollar's value is based heavily on petroleum trade, oil futures are being used as a hedge against the dollar's value, and this is in turn actively decreasing the dollar's value to a lot of people as it buys less inflated oil. It's a vicious cycle of speculation and inflation at the cost of the US citizen's quality of life. Until the dollar's value is not linked so closely with the petroleum trade, it's dangerous to allow this speculation to run unchecked. It's basically as if you could buy futures in inflation, and the more speculation there is, the more dollars they print. - korvan504521, on 07/06/2008, -0/+1Yeah maybe we should just tie the damn dollar to a certain amount of petro. stamp on the 5 "worth 2 gallons of petro".
- PopcornDave, on 07/05/2008, -1/+5So what exactly is Congress supposed to do about gas prices? Price controls did such a fantastic job back when Nixon tried them.
- acroyear2, on 07/04/2008, -11/+11"Maybe Obama could volunteer some of his millions instead of seeking discounts on his mortgage and asking low income people that already work 13 hours a day to volunteer their time."
"One step closer to communism..."
"When you decide to step up and uphold the Constitution, I will pay heed to your condescending *****."
So finally within the past couple weeks Obama says something that is redeemable and these are the comments we get? Why don't you guys just admit you're too lazy to bother volunteering instead labeling such a suggestion as "condescending" or "communist". Under any political party, a lack of volunteering and taking care of our communities is always a detrimental factor. I don't see why we can't heed anyone's call to volunteer. We do need to take these issues more into our own hands.- johndavidjack, on 07/05/2008, -3/+6Maybe because I don't give a ***** about volunteering. I take care of myself, my land, pick up after myself, and help my family when they need it.
If everybody took care of their own families, cleaned up after themselves, and were responsible, there would be no such thing as volunteering. Why the ***** should I walk along a roadside and pick up someone else's ***** they threw out of their car?
I "volunteer" (LOL) $100 a paycheck to the government already, and they don't do ***** with it.- acroyear2, on 07/05/2008, -0/+1The fact that you see volunteering your time as inherently about spending time on the undeserving is what's wrong with this nation.
- johndavidjack, on 07/05/2008, -3/+6Maybe because I don't give a ***** about volunteering. I take care of myself, my land, pick up after myself, and help my family when they need it.
- NelsonR, on 07/04/2008, -2/+7How about reversing this argument by having politicians living and preaching with strength of character. Lets add morals, ethics and real humanity. How many politicians can you think of that hasn't reversed course to satiate the electorate while failing to keep to their own values?
Obama is one crumb in a loaf of bread that orates for votes without keeping the values once preached. I find him a politico like McCain, both atrocious and wrong for America.
Gosh, as a dreamer I must come back to earth and realize, humans do not convert easily. It's all about their own power while satiating those followers among them.- runCMD, on 07/05/2008, -0/+2Well said NelsonR!
- TruthLies, on 07/04/2008, -10/+4What, give back to the community? Me?
**** Obama. - DarkReign16, on 07/04/2008, -2/+19I would volunteer Obama, but if I do, I might not get elected as class President, I know I originally said I'd volunteer to clean up the cafeteria, but now that it's down to just two kids, with not much time left, I've decided to do the opposite of what I said I would, in hopes of getting the "anti-volunteer" vote, ya know, for the kids who bring their lunch from home. I'm sure that my original supporters understand, I'm going back on what I said to WIN, don't you see?
/s - DiggGeek24, on 07/04/2008, -11/+5Looks like you diggers where all for "Change" and behind Obama but as soon as he ask you to volunteer he is evil.
You want "Change" but do not wanna work for it.
You are part of the ME ME ME generation- TheRedSp4de, on 07/04/2008, -0/+7Well, perhaps, just perhaps not all diggers are Obama fans and maybe those are the ones posting...?
- InetRoadkill, on 07/05/2008, -0/+7It's not Obama's request for volunteers that's soured the milk. It's his failure to defend the constitution and his eagerness to pander to special interests like every other politician that's poisoned the well. It looks like the only substance to his idea of change is in name only. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
- OffPiste, on 07/04/2008, -8/+15Ooooobama, ***** you.
- coffee200am, on 07/04/2008, -7/+15Volunteerism DOES NOT pay my bills.
- DiggGeek24, on 07/05/2008, -10/+1You are part of the ME ME ME generation
- festman, on 07/05/2008, -1/+4Dude, how many times are you gonna post this crap? What's wrong with personal responsibility? That's what this country was built on. And don't try to say that other generations were different.
How about answering coffee200am's statement. How exactly will volunteerism pay his or my bills? Or do you want everyone to volunteer, expecting the same from other people? That's called communism and it doesn't work.
- festman, on 07/05/2008, -1/+4Dude, how many times are you gonna post this crap? What's wrong with personal responsibility? That's what this country was built on. And don't try to say that other generations were different.
- PopcornDave, on 07/05/2008, -3/+2Nobody ever suggested it was supposed to did they? Volunteering is something you do in your... wait for it... FREE TIME.
It's voluntary, hence "volunteering". Nobody's holding a gun to your head, or ever said it was mandatory.- publiclurker, on 07/05/2008, -2/+2Leaches like him like to pretend that they are respectable individuals. Therefore, they are against any form of volunteering, since there is no way they would ever get off of their ever widening asses to do anything, and that would reveal them to the rest of us for what they really are.
- DiggGeek24, on 07/05/2008, -10/+1You are part of the ME ME ME generation
- xsquirrel378x, on 07/04/2008, -8/+9The tides of the digg sentiment are outrageous. He was a hero to everyone like 4 months ago and now he gets bashed just as bad as mccain despite the fact his position on almost everything has been pretty consistent. You guys really need to pick a pony and stick with it
- TruthLies, on 07/05/2008, -2/+4No, ponies are for girls.
- dball48, on 07/05/2008, -5/+7"his position on almost everything has been pretty consistent" lol
- xsquirrel378x, on 07/05/2008, -5/+1ok so how has he flip flopped anything he stated? lol
- dball48, on 07/05/2008, -2/+2http://massdiscussion.blogspot.com/2008/06/collect ...
- scottc, on 07/05/2008, -2/+7He flip flopped on campaign financing and the FISA bill.
- xsquirrel378x, on 07/05/2008, -2/+4^
most of that list is changes in position over the course of a few years. Relatively few examples of what you have shown have been changes since the start of his campaign and well before Obamarama on digg.
I blame the digg community for thinking digg to be a credible source of unbiased news and digging with the horde and not educating themselves to begin with. - xsquirrel378x, on 07/05/2008, -2/+3btw i am neither pro nor anti Obama. I did vote for him in 2004 however.
I just find it funny that the digg community somehow thinks of itself to be this educated group of individualist thinkers when mostly it's just another army of sheep that just like to hear what they want to hear pretty much like the "sheep" they criticize.
- NelsonR, on 07/05/2008, -1/+5How can you stick with one candidate. They continually change positions to garner the most votes. If your spouse did that to you would you stand by her/him. Don't think so. Obama deserves rebuke since he is now just another politico.
- NorthMass, on 07/05/2008, -4/+5I have never supported Obama but what has happened is the people who used to support him have woken up to his false rhetoric when he supported the FISA bill and basically has flip flopped on issue after issue and proven himself to be just like every other politician.
- Tophillious, on 07/05/2008, -3/+3I'm a Ron Paul supporter, like everyone else was 6 months ago when his name was on all the top articles.
- xsquirrel378x, on 07/05/2008, -2/+1And yet somehow much of the same mob turned into Obama supporters which is completely hilarious when you think about it.
- xsquirrel378x, on 07/05/2008, -2/+1And yet somehow much of the same mob turned into Obama supporters which is completely hilarious when you think about it.
- runCMD, on 07/05/2008, -0/+2He wasn't a hero to everyone - just the same tired thousand or so active Digg posters on his behalf. America is bigger than Digg - and apparently is finally waking up to the reality of what Obama's generic rhetoric really means under the superficial layer of hope he offers.
- TheRedSp4de, on 07/04/2008, -6/+13Lower taxes and donations and volunteering would probably go up.
- DiggGeek24, on 07/04/2008, -13/+4How dare Obama suggest we volunteer
***** the 90 year old woman that needs her yard mowed she can mow it herself.
Screw picking up trash
Screw everyone its all about ME ME ME -
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