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Olbermann Smacks down the RNC over 911 Tribute watch!
youtube.com — Republican convention exploits the memories of the dead on 9/11
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- mikesoba, on 09/05/2008, -24/+385The Neo-Con party is the direct beneficiary of the tragedy of 9/11.
- ryan69969, on 09/05/2008, -5/+93They have definitely made an art form out of standing on top of graves to make their message louder.
- rv361162, on 09/05/2008, -0/+7especially when some knew and didn't help to impede the terrorist act in the first place.
I'm not a conspiracy nut, I'm a person who's see NO accountability for one of the biggest ***** ups in defense and intelligence history, and everyone gets a pat on the back and a "oh, that's ok... it's not your fault you ignored CIA/FBI officials saying Bin Laden was about to attack even 1-2 months before the attack..."
*****, Jesse Ventura made actual sense the other day and I'm wondering what the hell is going on in this country when they keep using 9/11 to pass ***** laws and spend billions on wars and "homeland security" and cops become overly aggressive in the name of "9/11" and fighting terrorism.
Ah,,, happy friday. - DavidBGie, on 09/05/2008, -4/+1You libtards are just in denial. 9/11 could never happen again so let's let people forget about it... Right? Obermaan is a servant of the democratic party and knows that national security is a weakness of his party. Instead of suggesting that democrats step up and face it it's just easier to say the republicans are dwelling on it.
As for you conspiracy nuts, just because someone can benefit from a disaster doesn't mean they knew about it and/or were involved. Construction crews in New York and NJ have greatly benefited from 9/11 but does that mean they knew about it and/or were involved? Is there blood on their hands? Everything is not a conspiracy. - rv361162, on 09/05/2008, -0/+2Hey DavidBGie, I'm a lifelong Republican who is sick of the party and joined www.campaignforliberty.com, so you can pretty much stuff that one in a jar about libtards.
Not everything is a conspiracy, but there is a thing called "problem, reaction, solution" used to benefit those in power.
Maybe actually use that brain God gave ya to do something other than watching football and wondering what type of beer to get from the store next time... - DavidBGie, on 09/06/2008, -2/+1@rv361162
I don't watch football and don't drink beer for starters. Sorry, my life isn't as simple as your stereotypes. If you're a lifelong republican who got sick of the party and joined a web site then you are not a lifelong republican. You're just a libertarian now. (aka Paultard). Ron Paul ONLY makes sense to those who gloss over the news. You don't actually dive into the details. Headlines are easier for you. Once you look at details then Ron starts to look fake. - mikesoba, on 09/06/2008, -0/+1@DavidBGieDavidBGie - It will never happen again? It should never have happened in the first place. And then you admit the Republicans benefit from the tragedy -- at least there's one Republican who speaks the truth.
- rv361162, on 09/05/2008, -0/+7especially when some knew and didn't help to impede the terrorist act in the first place.
- D1ckFace, on 09/05/2008, -9/+26they knew about it and allowed it to happen.
Neocons are ***** evil.
this new video (fabled enemies) explains who exactly was behind 9/11: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-214493319 ...
(and that will conform my statement above)- themastersb, on 09/05/2008, -25/+1You just gave me something to fall asleep to. Thanks.
- Zarchon, on 09/05/2008, -18/+3I used to think that Digg, as a whole, was a place where people of intelligence gathered. As the years have gone by the posts have become asinine. Dickface, you truly are. The general populace here is made up of people who are filled with hate, don't care about anyone other than themselves, and pretend they care. They aren't open to any sort of exchange of view points, they call names at the drop of the hat, and they act like they have an IQ of 60. Sorry, not meaning to demean those people who truly have an IQ of 60. Digg needs to get rid of the politics section. You all remind me of Sheldon on the Big Bang Theory. Perhaps smarter than the average person but so damn broken it is hilarious.
- GawtMilk, on 09/05/2008, -15/+2Olbermann takes issue with "them showing that much graphic videotape of 9/11", so you post a video that starts with two straight minutes of footage showing the planes hitting the building? What the hell is wrong with you? The RNC video had 39 seconds of the WTC footage - and only one clip of the plane actually hitting the building, even that was purposefully chosen to be somewhat tasteful [they found a clip with another building blocking much of the view of the destruction]. The rest were selected clips depicting heroism, firefighters, the American flag.
If Olbermann was offended by the RNC video, I can't imagine what he'd say to yours. It is a textbook example of trying to get you angry, so you let your emotional state decide what is "right or wrong". Probably because they don't have any facts to back up their wild assertions. - Atomic05, on 09/05/2008, -1/+7@Zarchon
Judging by your comment history, you've got more than enough hate to go around. People here respond most to valid arguments, not fourth grade name-calling or stuff that's already been discredited, though you can see that on both sides. There is a bias here towards one candidate and for good reasons, however, so unless you can find something for your argument that hasn't already been shot down or rendered irrelevant, you're out of luck.
@GawtMilk
The reason it's disgusting at the RNC is because it was used for purely political reasons to help elect McCain. In "Fabled Enemies", it is used to emphasize a point in an online video. They're both tasteless really, but one of the two beneficiaries is running for president, and the other is a posting on the internet. Which one do you think is more disturbing? - didiman, on 09/05/2008, -13/+1Olbermann is an inconsequential idiot
- ayeroxor, on 09/05/2008, -0/+6^ you must feel a special kinship
- twiztidsinz, on 09/05/2008, -2/+42When do we get to out these guys as terrorists?
"Terrorism is the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorist#Key_criteri ... Psychological impact and fear – The attack was carried out in such a way as to maximize the severity and length of the psychological impact. Each act of terrorism is a “performance,” devised to have an impact on many large audiences. Terrorists also attack national symbols to show their power and to shake the foundation of the country or society they are opposed to. This may negatively affect a government's legitimacy, while increasing the legitimacy of the given terrorist organization and/or ideology behind a terrorist act.[10]
Perpetrated for a political goal – Something all terrorist attacks have in common is their perpetration for a political purpose. Terrorism is a political tactic, not unlike letter writing or protesting, that is used by activists when they believe no other means will effect the kind of change they desire. The change is desired so badly that failure is seen as a worse outcome than the deaths of civilians. This is often where the interrelationship between terrorism and religion occurs. When a political struggle is integrated into the framework of a religious or "cosmic"[11] struggle, such as over the control of an ancestral homeland or holy site such as Israel and Jerusalem, failing in the political goal (nationalism) becomes equated with spiritual failure, which, for the highly committed, is worse than their own death or the deaths of innocent civilians.- Drahkar, on 09/05/2008, -0/+12Unfortunately many of the people in Washington right now are likely just as guilty of things linked to various NeoCons that they never will press charges against them like that should.
Its a sad example of the state of affairs in Washington on how corrupt most of them are. They don't do things with our best interest in mind. They do things with how it'll get them ahead and make them the most money. - Charlotte_Web, on 09/05/2008, -14/+2Here's the entire segment:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rw1vEzqld0I
The 9/11 Tribute video was approximately 3 minutes long.
Keith Olbermann is a clown. When have we ever NOT memorialized wars and tragedies on an ongoing basis? Why does he think that Republicans would eviscerate Democrats for showing a 9/11 Tribute video? The video never claimed that 9/11 memorials were for conservatives only; that's a liberal myth that conservatives have laid claim to 9/11.
9/11 was the defining moment of this decade, and the reason that we did get involved in two wars. You can't understand Afghanistan and Iraq (even if you disagree with our reasons for being there) if you don't understand 9/11. 9/11 was both a tragic nightmare and a shining moment for America. There's no shame in that; far from it.
I actually think a lot of Tom Brokaw, and it's unfortunate that someone of his stature had been put in the situation where that clown Olbermann gets the last word. - rationalist, on 09/05/2008, -0/+2Leni Riefenstahl would have been proud.
- DavidBGie, on 09/05/2008, -1/+1Keith Olbermann is bought and paid for. Do you think that sponsors are the only ones giving money to these people? Guys like Soros pay them much more to color the news. I wonder if countries pay them too.... cheap and easy propaganda.
- Drahkar, on 09/05/2008, -0/+12Unfortunately many of the people in Washington right now are likely just as guilty of things linked to various NeoCons that they never will press charges against them like that should.
- nickert0n, on 09/05/2008, -1/+27Hence why they reminded people in that convention and keep reminding people of it.
It's textbook Neo-con theory developed by Leo Straus
Problem
Reaction
Solution
Problem - 9/11
Reaction - American peoples emotion towards that event
Solution - Neo-Con objectives in the costume of resolve.- physivic, on 09/05/2008, -0/+12'costume of resolve' ----- nice line. Elegant. I will use it myself. :-)
- SenorCardgage74, on 09/05/2008, -0/+7"Elegant"
Here here
- jjyang, on 09/05/2008, -24/+3Have we all gotten so cynical that any 9/11 tribute video is interpreted as political manipulation. For starters, the video package was not on prime time, so it was not intended for the majority of the voting bloc. It was meant for the partisan republicans at the Convention. And we need to remember that video tributes are necessary so the terrorist attacks remain fresh in our minds.
- Mononuclear, on 09/05/2008, -1/+17why does it need to remain fresh in our minds? We make such great decisions based on emotion right? No one has forgotten 9/11. We don't need to constantly relive it. It happened, it was a tragedy, there are many things we have learned from it but it is time to move on and focus on the present and not the past.
- drewedman, on 09/05/2008, -1/+1I think you need to remember to stfu when you have a thought in your head..
- seldon21, on 09/05/2008, -4/+15Watching this all go on while I have been overseas for the last couple of weeks.
Look at the symbolism they are using;
Huge screen behind the podium - Red and White (Never showing any blue or the stars, meaning states)
Audience is all white.
Blood on their hands is red.
How did they open the convention, a trubute to the fallen and troops. So what I saw was a bunch of people who are hero's and I commend their service but it really looks like we are just a military hunta or dictatorship and we are sending the "tough" signal. Really makes me sick. We are better than this!
The whole(whore) VP speech. Frickin' same thing different day. - xerigen, on 09/05/2008, -2/+12I am so full of ***** rage after watching the 9/11 "tribute" video.
- worldpeacenow, on 09/05/2008, -2/+8And take a closer look at the confetti!
http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Take_a_closer_lo ...- 13373h4X0r, on 09/05/2008, -0/+0I LOL'd IRL! : - )
But I shed a tear, too...
- 13373h4X0r, on 09/05/2008, -0/+0I LOL'd IRL! : - )
- arcangelgabriel, on 09/05/2008, -1/+12Let's send more kids to die in a country that didn't attack us.
God bless the United States Marine Corps.
***** you Mr. President and all your ilk.
Semper Fi. - civdis24, on 09/05/2008, -1/+18I consider myself a 'true' Republican. That's why I've always liked Ron Paul the most out of all these fools. That's also why I now have a strong dislike for and almost disgust for the current Republican Party. The convention was distasteful at best throughout. All they did was put down Obama and Biden, and only through misleading statements and evidence taken out of context. The PEOPLE there at the convention sickened me.
The Republican Party now stands for almost extreme social conservatism, sometimes to the point that it contradicts some of their so-called values. They say they stand for the Constitution and the ideals the USA was founded upon, but those statements are empty. They now support big government, tax-breaks for the wealthy, and endless war. As tired as the allegation may seem, the Republican Party HAS been taken over by neo-conservatism. They exploit 9/11 to instill fear and to justify ridiculous (and technically illegal) wars. Now, what is the deal with Russia and all these Republicans sounding so damn eager for another cold war type relationship? And throwing support to Georgia as if they are entirely the victims of the recent conflict. Why is it that Republicans seems to put everything in terms of GOOD vs EVIL?? Evil "Islamo-fascists" and evil terrorists and now the cruel evil Russians. They think 9/11 was executed by evil and that the the good US fell victim unjustly and had done nothing to instigate it.
All of this makes me sick. My vote is for Obama/Biden because I think they are genuinely good people, they are smart, and they do not have the same ***** up agendas as these damn neo-cons. - Calcularius, on 09/05/2008, -1/+4Seeing as how Condi had docs on her desk saying it was being planned and did nothing... I'd call them the enablers of 9/11.
- jabberwolff, on 09/05/2008, -1/+0Yeah stop benefiting from 9/11 !!!
I mean dam. now I have to make another film about a conspiracy and sell my magazines and books about "neocons" and NWO. I mean dam how am I supposed to sell all this crap to sheep while others are benefiting from it.
( if you dont get it - get a bullet - put in your brain - thank god you never reproduce! )
- ryan69969, on 09/05/2008, -5/+93They have definitely made an art form out of standing on top of graves to make their message louder.
- Stupidtourist, on 09/05/2008, -23/+420Shame on the republicans for exploiting that awful tragedy for political gain.
- dancameron, on 09/05/2008, -3/+36Awful...See the full video here, Full video dugg here, http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Unbelievable_RNC ...
- twiztidsinz, on 09/05/2008, -0/+21Dug both because this deserves to be in ALL of the top 10..
Absolutely ***** sick. - UltramegaOK, on 09/05/2008, -0/+8Dugg. Thanks for the linkage.
- jabberwolff, on 09/05/2008, -1/+0Yes because there no films out by liberal retards that show 911 all dam day long, sell thousands of copies about conspiracies, write books about "neocons" and "NWO". Try to scare everyone that an invisible power or "zionists" will kill them in their sleep.
I mean that would be exploiting a bad thing right?
- twiztidsinz, on 09/05/2008, -0/+21Dug both because this deserves to be in ALL of the top 10..
- ButlerMonkey, on 09/05/2008, -2/+17I agree with people being upset - but are people really surprised by this? As a Canadian I have an outsiders view of US politics. As such, I am aware that this is a card the republicans play - they've been doing it for almost 8 years now - American citizens have had this tragic event used as a tool to condition them to accept government actions that may otherwise cause people to raise an eyebrow. At the very least, what does this say about the judgment of the republican party - as if their isn't enough evidence to prove they are a joke at this point.
I just hope that American citizens, for their own sake wake up. Don't let the events of the 11th of September continue to be used as a political tool against you by any party.- dk911, on 09/05/2008, -8/+0Well, we could do like Canada and appease the radicals who perpetrated these attacks. Canada isn't far behind the UK in becoming so PC as to be another radical Muslim country. Go ahead, tell me I'm wrong... After you wash your feet before you go into class at school.
- ButlerMonkey, on 09/06/2008, -0/+1@dk911 - You're wrong. If you want to know the truth, I think a lot of Canadians are concerned by the radical actions of the US government and some of the illogical thinking displayed by some of its citizens. A few of you can sound as fanatical and crazy as people in other parts of the world.
- schrutefan, on 09/05/2008, -2/+11You shouldn't be upset at their tactics. You should be upset at the people dumb enough to fall for it.
- funkyloki, on 09/05/2008, -0/+1We should be upset with both.
- tomarocco, on 09/05/2008, -6/+7They staged it for political gain, why not continue to exploit it?
- selfdisplaced, on 09/05/2008, -4/+3They aren't using it for political gain. It was mentioned once as an example of how they want to prevent something like 9/11 to happen again. It's really the perfect/only example to this date of a large terrorist attack on the US.
- pavanb500, on 09/05/2008, -2/+4So...what you're saying is...terrorist attacks are super rare here? And that we're over-*****-reacting and should back off with living our lives in fear because statistically speaking, there's a tiny tiny chance anything more damage-causing than a life in constant paranoia would happened again? Agreed!
- xine13, on 09/05/2008, -1/+1Guliani.
- funkyloki, on 09/05/2008, -1/+1Oklahoma city bombing. May not have killed as much, but it was definitely a terrorist attack, just not from the Islamic terrorists they loved to mention during their speeches.
- selfdisplaced, on 09/05/2008, -0/+2@pavanb500 what the f are you talking about. i didn't say they are "super rare" or even rare. i said it's the largest and most recent terrorist attack. i didn't say anything about living our lives in fear. i smell great sensationalism on your part. and you don't need to have a response.
- shadus, on 09/05/2008, -2/+2Yes, shame on them for exploiting it since 2001. It's all they've done is chat 9/11 as they shred our civil liberties, destroy our economy, and kill our troops in iraq where we should never have been in the first place.
Shame on the republicans (not conservatives, because a neo-conservative isn't a conservative) who buy into the rhetoric and voted for McCain during the primary.
Shame on the American people for allowing it. Shame on the American people for believing it.
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Ben Franklin- Inquisition, on 09/05/2008, -0/+1@shadus
FYI. the quote "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." may not be from Benjamin Franklin.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Those_who_would_give_ ...
/The more you know...
- Inquisition, on 09/05/2008, -0/+1@shadus
- macdady843, on 09/05/2008, -4/+2To all of you that want to pretend this never happened...
I want to say that images/videos of 9/11 are NOT taboo to Americans, only to bleeding heart liberals.
True Patriots are reminded of the hate in this world when they see images/videos of 9/11.
But according to you we should lock all those images/videos up in a vault, forget it ever happened, and stick our heads tightly back in the SAND.- catbeller, on 09/05/2008, -0/+3Where are the videos to watch of the hundreds of thousands of Iraqis you oh so morally tough people killed over the last six years? I could link to some picture of a boy with his limbs blown off. All others, a little tough to find, BECAUSE THEY WON'T LET REPORTERS TAKE ANY PICTURES. Whatever reporters are left hide in McDonaldsland in the Green Zone. How dare you accuse people of hiding their faces from the truth when you support such perception management douchery.
You don't have your head in the sand. You've buried yourself six feet under it. - macdady843, on 09/05/2008, -1/+1Let it be a lesson to the rest of the world... although Bin Laden was not from Iraq.. that is what happens to your country when you harbor terrorists and let them plan attacks against America.
- catbeller, on 09/05/2008, -0/+3Where are the videos to watch of the hundreds of thousands of Iraqis you oh so morally tough people killed over the last six years? I could link to some picture of a boy with his limbs blown off. All others, a little tough to find, BECAUSE THEY WON'T LET REPORTERS TAKE ANY PICTURES. Whatever reporters are left hide in McDonaldsland in the Green Zone. How dare you accuse people of hiding their faces from the truth when you support such perception management douchery.
- nemo001, on 09/05/2008, -0/+3Shame on you for thinking that. I lost family in WTC on 9/11. I want tributes to continue. I want them remembered. I don't want anyone to forget what happened that day. The loss has been seared deeply.
Isn't t it obvious that those who shined on that day were not the blame America first crowd? It was the people who put America and her people first.- funkyloki, on 09/05/2008, -1/+1No one was out there that day blaming anything on America. It wasn't until later when they tried to pin it on Saddam (who has been proven to have NOTHING to do with it) that people started questioning the motives of our government. I deeply regret all the people who died that day as a result of the attack, Americans and foreign nationals, but we need to be aware that using the tribute to flame the fans of hate against a country (Iraq) that had nothing to do with it is *****. Did we all forget that the men who did this horrific thing were Saudis? Where is the outrage at them? Why are we still doing business with them? Why have we never held them accountable for what happened? Oh, I forgot: oil. Iraq has the world's second largest reserve of oil, and we are not there to fight terrorists, we are there to secure the region for oil interests.
I don't believe that America caused the attack or was in any way involved with it, but that does not mean that I don't think that our government uses it to their advantage, which is deplorable. How come no one seems to mention the Oklahoma city bombing? That was as tragic, and that was done by Americans. Anytime people lose their lives as a result of violence, it is tragic. But all they talked about at the RNC was Islamic terrorists, not about any of the disenfranchised Americans that are suffering here because of a war costing us billions, a failing infrastructure, a loosening of regulations regarding financial systems, a health care industry and MSM that is built around profit (when did it become all right to make millions on the back of sick people).
It is all sickening. - macdady843, on 09/08/2008, -0/+1@funkyloki
"Oh, I forgot: oil. Iraq has the world's second largest reserve of oil, and we are not there to fight terrorists, we are there to secure the region for oil interests."
Ya coulda fooled me with your oil rant.. last time I checked gas was almost $4 a gallon. If we were there for oil we would be shipping it back here and we would all be experiencing relief at the pump and that isn't happening. It's not benefiting us at all so your argument makes no sense.
"not about any of the disenfranchised Americans that are suffering here because of a war costing us billions, a failing infrastructure, a loosening of regulations regarding financial systems, a health care industry"
Guess what buddy.. besides the war (which many democrats voted in favor for) those things you mentioned above are thanks to your do-nothing democratic controlled congress. So complain about them not about "The Bush Administration"
- funkyloki, on 09/05/2008, -1/+1No one was out there that day blaming anything on America. It wasn't until later when they tried to pin it on Saddam (who has been proven to have NOTHING to do with it) that people started questioning the motives of our government. I deeply regret all the people who died that day as a result of the attack, Americans and foreign nationals, but we need to be aware that using the tribute to flame the fans of hate against a country (Iraq) that had nothing to do with it is *****. Did we all forget that the men who did this horrific thing were Saudis? Where is the outrage at them? Why are we still doing business with them? Why have we never held them accountable for what happened? Oh, I forgot: oil. Iraq has the world's second largest reserve of oil, and we are not there to fight terrorists, we are there to secure the region for oil interests.
- alagusis, on 09/05/2008, -2/+0are you kidding?
they have no shame - jabberwolff, on 09/05/2008, -0/+2Wait but liberal retards can harp on 911 all dam day long
- dancameron, on 09/05/2008, -3/+36Awful...See the full video here, Full video dugg here, http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Unbelievable_RNC ...
- VideoGameMatt, on 09/05/2008, -21/+295I am sickened by how the republicans use 9/11 to their advantage. Using the fear and pain of that tragic day is disgusting and it insults everyone who lost someone that day. What gives them the right to treat the deaths of 3000 people like it was beneficial? All they talk about is 9/11 maybe they should change the name of the party to 9/11. Go ahead and try to defend the way they are using 9/11 to benefit them, i dare someone to do it there is no way anyone can defend that. And i'm not saying never talk about 9/11 again and to forget about it. What i am saying is that it needs to stop being used like its a way to get votes and justify wars that had nothing to do with that day. Olbermann is right if any news network showed that many images of 9/11 they would be destroyed by the public. Why do the republicans get away with this?
- COlNTELAGENTPro, on 09/05/2008, -13/+1Brilliant!!!
The 9/11 party!!! MAKE IT GO VIRAL!! - elscorcho717, on 09/05/2008, -3/+20Remember how in social studies class in high school they showed you what soviet and nazi propaganda looks like? Someday stuff like this will be in textbooks around the world as a shining example of american propaganda
- nemo001, on 09/05/2008, -2/+1Are you just pretending to be that uneducated or can you truly not tell the difference? If, as a citizen of the USA, an education is a civil right, your rights have obviously been violated.
- dk911, on 09/05/2008, -11/+0They're not using fear and pain to promote themselves. They are reminding the populace that it happened and we need to still be strong against such perilous acts. The Democrats would soon have you forget that it actually occurred because their image against such attacks are weak (to say the least). While they focus, intently, on the problems within our country they will miss what is going on outside of it.
It's hard to say if this administration, or the party itself, has prevented any attacks since 9/11. Since none have occurred, it can be argued that none have even attempted to take place, or that our government is actually doing something. I know that Democrats would have you believe the former. They stand on their pulpits and proclaim how the USA is no safer than it was before 9/11, and most times even less so. But, it needs to be said that no attacks have occurred since 9/11. And if that means that the reminder of 9/11 needs to be made, to bring back those memories that make us hate extremist Islam and their jihad against us, then I would much rather be reminded through video than an actual attack.
Republicans stand strong against just that sort of attack ever occurring again. Democrats, as far as I can tell, think we can sit down with extremist Islam and have a heartfelt chat about our differences. They believe that it's better to appease than to attack, and that's not what extreme Islam will respond to. Our appeasement shows, to them, a weakness that they feed upon. The use it to bolster their image in a world that, ever increasingly, is bowing to their demands. I don't want to see the USA appease this problem. I want to see them confront it, and if a reminder of the pain that we all suffered on 9/11 helps people to remember how much they HATED radical Islam on that day, then IMHO it's a good thing. If, instead, you see it as exploiting the dead, then you are missing the point ENTIRELY.- KrustyTClown, on 09/05/2008, -5/+1If you are not a democrat, then it is pointless to post your views on DIGG. Have you seen any positive articles posted on digg about the republicans. Every minute another anti GOP article shows up on digg's front page. Everything to them is a conspiracy and they always want everything to be ME ME ME, MINE MINE MINE, NOW NOW NOW but they will never serve one day in the military to fight for the rights that they cry for. Also how can Obama be Commander in Chief if he has never COMMANDED?
- catbeller, on 09/05/2008, -0/+3It's not about being a Democrat that gets you dugg down.
It's because you are wrong, misinformed and morally blind. - StarlessKnight, on 09/05/2008, -0/+1"The Democrats would soon have you forget that it actually occurred because their image against such attacks are weak..."
Let's play this game. *Ahems* The Republicans would soon have you forget any and all emotional, personal, reasonable, and sympathetic value of 9/11 in favor of cheap political points and getting elected while falsely appearing "tough on terror." There's more, but I think that gets the point across.
If September 11th ever loses its meaning it is because the *Republicans* throw it around every single chance they get. It is because people like Guliani keep parroting it day in and day out where hearing it becomes just another word or phrase. They diminish its value every chance they get. They run off of it. They depend on it. It is everything they are.
Summary for the tl;dr crowd: FAIL. - dk911, on 09/05/2008, -0/+0We don't forget the emotional connection to 9/11. We feel it worse than any Democrat ever could. Because we realize that if a Republican had been in the Whitehouse when the report came in that we could take out Osama, we wouldn't have given it a second thought. We, as Republicans, lose sleep on a daily basis because we're the vigilant ones who fight for your freedoms and defend your precious right to speak your mind freely. Democrats wish to bitch and complain, for all the world to hear, about how it's not fair, or maybe if we just talked, or if we honored that killing son-of-a-bitch's rights... Get over it. When you kill, maliciously, and report to the world that you've done so, your rights mean nil to me.
"Democrats, as far as I can tell, think we can sit down with extremist Islam and have a heartfelt chat about our differences. They believe that it's better to appease than to attack, and that's not what extreme Islam will respond to." is extremely accurate -- try to prove me wrong.
All Obama, Carter, Clinton, and every Democrat in history ever talk about is "Let's sit down and try to talk things out..." Stupid ***** will never keep us safe. Just makes us more like the UK and Canada. What, we want to be better appeasers than them?
- KrustyTClown, on 09/05/2008, -5/+1If you are not a democrat, then it is pointless to post your views on DIGG. Have you seen any positive articles posted on digg about the republicans. Every minute another anti GOP article shows up on digg's front page. Everything to them is a conspiracy and they always want everything to be ME ME ME, MINE MINE MINE, NOW NOW NOW but they will never serve one day in the military to fight for the rights that they cry for. Also how can Obama be Commander in Chief if he has never COMMANDED?
- COlNTELAGENTPro, on 09/05/2008, -13/+1Brilliant!!!
- dn11, on 09/05/2008, -12/+309The propaganda film he is referring to:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDx80bnFrVs- elister, on 09/05/2008, -2/+45What? No nuclear mushroom cloud at the end? I'm insulted! Republicans need to work harder on their fear mongering.
- patpl22391, on 09/05/2008, -12/+2No, that was Lyndon Johnson, a Democrat.
- TokenBlack, on 09/05/2008, -0/+6@pat WHOOSH!
- rationalist, on 09/05/2008, -0/+7Two wrongs do not make a right.
But, apparently, 9/11 makes the Right.
- SpykerSpeed, on 09/05/2008, -21/+3Wait, you're not allowed to post it because Keith said it's inappropriate, remember?
- da_bradler, on 09/05/2008, -4/+50that video was absolutely disgusting, not only are they exploiting that tragedy, but they are also clearly trying to imply that Iran was somehow linked to 9/11. absolutely disgusting. have these people no shame?
Fear/War mongering at its finest. - SiL3ncer, on 09/05/2008, -1/+14neonazi(republican) propaganda machine spinning again.
- gadgetlust, on 09/05/2008, -1/+19Holy *****... You've got to be absolutely brainless not to see through that one. 9/11 was an Iranian attack on "civilization"? Sorry. If McCain is elected the USA will no longer be worthy of being described with that word.
***** glad not to be an American.- senatorpjt, on 09/05/2008, -0/+4They also said that Iran started it. They must never have heard of Operation Ajax, the CIA-led overthrow of Iran's democratically elected prime minister (who was attempting to nationalize the Iranian oil industry) by installation of a pro-US dictator, and indirectly to the Islamic Revolution to replace the dictator with the Ayatollah.
If we had left ***** alone the worst we'd have had to deal with is Iranian control of Iranian oil fields.
- senatorpjt, on 09/05/2008, -0/+4They also said that Iran started it. They must never have heard of Operation Ajax, the CIA-led overthrow of Iran's democratically elected prime minister (who was attempting to nationalize the Iranian oil industry) by installation of a pro-US dictator, and indirectly to the Islamic Revolution to replace the dictator with the Ayatollah.
- RiseInside, on 09/05/2008, -1/+3Thanks for the video. What a tragedy...
9/11 and its exploitation for the campaign's benefit - emehrkay, on 09/05/2008, -1/+8Wow, just wow. I had the tv on, but was working so I didnt see the video. Wow
- cmw72, on 09/05/2008, -1/+11Wow ... I want to vomit now. That was truly disgusting.
- ryan69969, on 09/05/2008, -1/+9I'm really scared now. I really feel like I need John McCain to protect me now. God bless the Republicans.
- BungaloBill, on 09/05/2008, -0/+4I'm surprised they didn't have it shown to the music of Chariots of Fire or Bomb Iran (as sung by McCain).
Maybe they should have had their massive teevee just slow mo airliners hitting the world trade center over and over throughout the convention. Maybe with a single frame of Ahmadinejad spliced in there at various intervals a la The Exorcist.
That would really have driven the point home I think.- yuutokun, on 09/06/2008, -0/+1I'm just glad they didn't use the music from Requiem for a Dream.
- homercles337, on 09/05/2008, -0/+5Wow, that is just insane. ***** Repugs have no god damn scruples at all!
- ceruleanocte, on 09/05/2008, -0/+2I like to keep an open mind and try to get as much unbiased info from all candidates, but wow. How dare they play that film? That was ridiculous. Shame on them for exploiting everyone's pain.
- kaelyiesta, on 09/05/2008, -0/+1First attack my ass. I am beyond furious that these ***** would go so far to obscure the truth. If I didn't know better, I'd be tricked into thinking that they started it.
Fortunately, I know better: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%2 ...
That is just one sin we perpetrated on these people, among countless others. Terrorism cannot be defended against by aggressive wars, occupations and installations of puppet governments. Nor can it be defended against by walls, economic sanctions, and removal of civil liberties. The ONLY answer is to realize that acts of terrorism are retaliation from the desperate fringe of a people long oppressed and radicalized by OUR aggressive interference.
Our imperialism has fed this. We are reaping the consequences of our own actions. McCain or Obama made it clear that they intend that our 21st century style imperialism will not stop. Combating the evil that is terrorism should start with ourselves. We should not be the oppressive policemen of the world. - Morchades, on 09/05/2008, -0/+1I can't bring myself to watch it.
- blackjack75, on 09/06/2008, -0/+1What's more frightening in the video is the first second which says (referring to the hostage crisis in the 80's) that it all began in Iran.
If this is not trying to tie 9/11 with Iran I wonder what it is.
- elister, on 09/05/2008, -2/+45What? No nuclear mushroom cloud at the end? I'm insulted! Republicans need to work harder on their fear mongering.
- oxphantomxo, on 09/05/2008, -18/+164He Calls it as he sees it, Well put.
- MatthewTheRaven, on 09/05/2008, -10/+4While I don't disagree with you about the use of 9/11 for political purposes, the problem is that it's not Keith Olbermann's place to point it out. If MSNBC wants to put him out there as the impartial reporter of the news, then that's what he needs to be. If he wants to be a Rush Limbaugh's counterpart, that's entirely fine, but the key is being up front about it.
As is, MSNBC's coverage was a joke. I'm sure Fox wasn't the picture of impartiality either, but I don't think I've ever seen them be quite so overt about it.
From a political point of view, I agree with the sentiment. From the point of view of what a news anchor is supposed to be, it was a disgrace to the profession.
Anderson Cooper is one of the few reporters who seems to get it these days.- rationalist, on 09/05/2008, -1/+4Google "Edward R. Murrow".
If "reading" is too 20th century for you, rent a film called, "Good Night, Good Luck". - MatthewTheRaven, on 09/05/2008, -3/+2There's a fine line between trying to do stories that expose issues that are important to you and simply editorializing. Murrow did the former and there were probably none better than it. Olbermann, at least in his coverage of the conventions, simply did the latter and it was disgusting. Making sure your biased opinion is out there at every opportunity is not reporting.
If Murrow was able to see that he was the inspiration for a hack like Olbermann, he would be spinning so fast in his grave, you could use him to make table legs. - codyjohnle, on 09/05/2008, -1/+2i could post an intelligent comment here, but i'd rather say ***** you matthewtheraven.
"I don't think I've ever seen them be quite so overt about it."
o'rly? you've never noticed that fox is more than a little biased. you've never seen them be overt about it. i watched fox's coverage of both conventions. they belittled each person who spoke at the dnc and dismissed everything said. during the rnc each and every person on fox, including guests, were grinning from ear to ear and claiming how every single word out of each republican + leiberman was soooo great. fox is controlled by the neo-cons. take it from someone who knows a little about the American Enterprise Institute. every word, talking point, guest, and segment is carefully monitored by the neo-cons.
you can claim msnbc, nbc, abc and whoever else you want is left - leaning, or anti - right. but almost everyone in this country does not agree with the neo-cons. so that makes it pretty normal in my opinion. - catbeller, on 09/05/2008, -1/+3Truth is bias. They are lying, Olbermann stated the obvious. About time. Comfort the afflicted, afflict the comfortable. "Journalists" today think they are stenographers. The right, of course, has thousands of outlets where their lies are treated as truth, yet somehow they are accepted as unbiased. ONE MAN gets out of line, and somehow he's the madman.
- MatthewTheRaven, on 09/05/2008, -2/+1At least you recognized your inability to post an intelligent comment right up front, sheesh.
I didn't say that Fox wasn't biased, in fact I said that they were. I just said they weren't so overtly biased as Olbermann. Man, these days if you actually agree with somebody, but don't agree with their level of fanaticism, it still earns a ***** you. - xine13, on 09/05/2008, -1/+2Ok, you said so yourself that the video was over the line, but in the same statement, you bash Olbermann for pointing out that very same fact.
- MatthewTheRaven, on 09/05/2008, -0/+1You're missing the point. I'm not a news anchor. I'm giving my opinion on a social news networking site. It's expected and everybody understands the rules here.
My point is that there IS a difference in roles between an anchor and a commentator. It's not Olbermann's role to state his opinion as fact before every commercial break. As it stands now, he's Hannity without being up front about his bias. That's not his role and it makes a joke out of MSNBC's coverage.
- rationalist, on 09/05/2008, -1/+4Google "Edward R. Murrow".
- satanatnmtedu, on 09/05/2008, -1/+7No, it is TOTALLY his place. He is reporter not a mouthpiece of the Administration. He is supposed to report the news.
- MatthewTheRaven, on 09/05/2008, -1/+1That's the problem, he wasn't reporting the news, he was editorializing it. That's not his role, at least not his role for that event.
If he wants to be a commentator, fine, but put him forward in that role and be up front about it. Don't claim he's a down the middle reporter, which is what they do. It's a lie. - catbeller, on 09/05/2008, -1/+3It's very simple. They lied right in front of him, and us, and he reported that. That's called "truth".
- MatthewTheRaven, on 09/05/2008, -0/+1You've lost the ability to see the difference between truth, lies, and an opinion. The current political climate seems to have done that to a lot of people.
The right thinks that 9/11 is a good political tool for them. That's an opinion. I disagree with it, you disagree with it, but that doesn't make it a lie. Olbermann's role in this situation isn't to give his opinion about that opinion and state it as fact, which is what he did. That MSNBC pretends that Olbermann is a down-the-middle anchor is a joke.
We already know that Fox News is a joke, but it's just annoying to see people hating them and then gobbling up MSNBC, just because it happens to agree with their own bias. You're no better than the Fox lovers if you're doing that. - IUAndar, on 09/05/2008, -0/+1I think by opening his statement by separating himself from the panel he was essentially saying "This is my, and only my, belief." That, and the clear emotional tone in his voice let us know that it was very personal to him and lets the audience know that it isn't just left-wing partisan hackery, it really does hit home with him.
Also, MatthewtheRaven, I don't think its fair to claim MSNBC is left-wing YET. MSNBC falls under the same category as The Daily Show, in my opinion. What I mean is, Olberman and TDS both gained their popularity during a time when the government deserved that level of scrutiny and so people associate them with the left. Had a Democratic executive branch performed that badly, however, I think we would have seen Olberman and TDS criticize them as well.
If Obama wins and is terrible (or just doesn't get scrutiny), and Olberman and Maddow are light on it, then yes. I will absolutely agree that MSNBC is *horribly* biased.
- MatthewTheRaven, on 09/05/2008, -1/+1That's the problem, he wasn't reporting the news, he was editorializing it. That's not his role, at least not his role for that event.
- MatthewTheRaven, on 09/05/2008, -10/+4While I don't disagree with you about the use of 9/11 for political purposes, the problem is that it's not Keith Olbermann's place to point it out. If MSNBC wants to put him out there as the impartial reporter of the news, then that's what he needs to be. If he wants to be a Rush Limbaugh's counterpart, that's entirely fine, but the key is being up front about it.
- adarkmethod, on 09/05/2008, -14/+128i mean, yeah, in case anyone had any doubt left that these were soulless ass holes exploiting a tragedy...
- KungFooJesus, on 09/05/2008, -7/+0Didn't Olbermann's network air that video? And then he claimed that anyone that played that video would/should be eviscerated? It still counts as using 9/11 to your advantage even if you're just showing someone else's video, does it not?
"We would never exploit 9/11 videos to get ratings. But look at the republicans video on 9/11. This will get us ratings and we can blame them for the moral emptiness we feel."
Well, I know the answers I'll get, Digg commentors have Olbermann's ***** so far down their throats they can taste the type of mousse he puts in his greasy hair, but there is always hope....- allenwrench, on 09/05/2008, -0/+2Dumbass, they have to cover the convention. Beyond that the actual content is up to the Republicans unless they utter dirty words or expose women's *****.
- xine13, on 09/05/2008, -0/+1Olbermann never put up the damn video, he was reporting from the convention, and condemned the video.
- KungFooJesus, on 09/05/2008, -7/+0Didn't Olbermann's network air that video? And then he claimed that anyone that played that video would/should be eviscerated? It still counts as using 9/11 to your advantage even if you're just showing someone else's video, does it not?
- lisa3711, on 09/05/2008, -16/+278When will the Reublicans stop exploiting 9/11? It happened on their watch too!
- darkciti2, on 09/05/2008, -5/+38The right wing "neocon" church nuts have "conveniently" forgotten that fact.
Thanks for reminding us (and them)! - IrishJeff, on 09/05/2008, -19/+52 choices in the "greatest country on Earth"? That's it? Not hardly. Check out www.BobBarr2008.com and see the candidate the media doesn't want you to know about.
- madfrogurt, on 09/05/2008, -1/+6Spam doesn't work around here Jeff. Just like RON PAUL 2008 only got the community pissed off at RP supporters, going to every thread and spamming BOB BARR 2008 isn't going to win converts either.
- IrishJeff, on 09/05/2008, -6/+2In a country where everyone has layed down and grabbed their ankles for the 2 party system, I'm afraid your right. I apologize for thinking outside the box. Guess I'll go home now and watch American Idol, and stuff my fat socialist face while warping my brain on my plasma under my mercury-laced energy saving light bulbs so I can save enough money to pay my taxes so politicians can make hundreds of thousands of dollars. Sorry for wanting to take the power back.
- vinod1978, on 09/05/2008, -0/+4It's not that the media doesn't want you to know about Barr. It's just that they don't care, and rightfully so. He has no chance in hell in getting more then 1% of the vote. He is a non-issue. You might as well write in Marilyn Monroe. Your vote will matter just as much either way.
- madfrogurt, on 09/05/2008, -0/+3Notice how I said nothing about political views or the viability of your candidate, I simply said that spamming a copy/paste level comment isn't a good way to get your opinion out in a smart way.
- xine13, on 09/05/2008, -0/+1IrishJeff is right. You still have a choice. Obama and McCain aren't the only ones on the ticket. It's still a democracy. I'm rooting for Obama.
- Aroundtheworls, on 09/05/2008, -2/+17Notice how much time is spent talking about the Iran hostage crisis and attack on the USS Cole. The video is saying that 9/11 was only one part of a string of attacks, so it highlights those events that took place during Democratic administrations saying "for too long we've looked the other way".
And notice how the supposed motive for attack is their hate of 'civilization' and 'freedom'.
Stay classy, GOP!- clayasaurus, on 09/05/2008, -0/+1If you think about it, it is the GOP that hate civilization and freedom.
The democratic congress is not about to save the day, either.
Perhaps the only good solution would be succession.
- clayasaurus, on 09/05/2008, -0/+1If you think about it, it is the GOP that hate civilization and freedom.
- Wargalas, on 09/05/2008, -20/+3Yes, it happened on Republican watch. It also developed, festered, and had continual attacks with almost no retaliation during Democratic watches. Personally, I like a "scorched earth" policy. If Pakistan can't or won't hand over Bin Laden, then perhaps we should simply pull out our troops and nuke the place until the whole country looks like a night light in the evening.
Personally, I would have told the Taliban: "You have 12 hours to hand over Bin Laden, or point him out." Failure to do so would mean that we drop our largest nuclear weapons across Afghanistan. Once that's done, it fixes two problems.
First, it kills Bin Laden and all his cronies. Secondly, and this is most important, it let's the world know that America isn't ***** around. The Iranian nuclear program? Yeah, they wouldn't even BEGIN to think that they could get away with that *****. North Korea? Forget it, we'd starve them out.
Forget all this pussy footing around. When you're in war, you do whatever it takes to win.
You panty waisted idiots seemed to have forgotten that.- odb101, on 09/05/2008, -0/+13Yea that'll work....Just Nuke everyone that doesn't listen to our demands. Great Foreign Policy advice
- tolbs, on 09/05/2008, -0/+10This is the most ridiculous thing I've read in a long time. Are you deliberately trolling or are you that stupid?
What good does nuking an entire COUNTRY full of INNOCENT PEOPLE do but kill a man who we can't verify is even still alive let alone even in said vicinity.
Not only does this alienate the US in the Middle East, it alienates the US in the eyes of the world, and most likely those in this country as well.
What you should be doing is questioning why President Bush was INACTIVE upon receiving a report on August 6th, 2001, 1 month before the 9/11 tragedy, titled "Bin Laden Determined To Strike in US" ( http://www.cnn.com/2004/images/04/10/whitehouse.pd ... ) that details quite specifically that Bin Laden had planned to Hijack Aircrafts while operatives had conducted surveillance on Federal buildings in New York.
This is NOT a Partisan issue. This is a failure to DO YOUR JOB. When you fail in the workplace, you should be held accountable, especially at a level such as this. Intelligence as damning and distinct as this was ignored and pushed aside. Thousands of people died in part because of failure of leadership at the EXECUTIVE level.
Lastly, I want everyone who sees no problem in this to think hard and question this video segment. Why should the Political Party in power at the time, in the senate, in the congress, and most importantly in the executive branch, be able to remotely convince us that a continuation of their leadership is going to prevent such a tragedy like this from happening a second time? The fact that they invoke these images to promote their candidate is sickening. Any chance I had of voting for a republican president or senator has been eliminated unless they apologize in earnest (I am a registered Republican, btw). - BungaloBill, on 09/05/2008, -0/+4Doing what you suggested would be genocide and a war crime. Any leader who would take that moronic course of action would, rightfully, be tried, convicted, and hanged.
- junkwheel, on 09/05/2008, -2/+10They haven't stopped exploiting Vietnam yet.
So yeah, probably never. - billymeade, on 09/05/2008, -8/+1Luckily, Liberals keep drawing attention to it, so it doesn't go away. Well done!
- BungaloBill, on 09/05/2008, -0/+2Right right, it's always the fault of the liberals just like everything else.
buried.
- BungaloBill, on 09/05/2008, -0/+2Right right, it's always the fault of the liberals just like everything else.
- Tribis, on 09/05/2008, -4/+3Right, because Al-Qaeda planned and successfully executed the 9/11 attacks within the few months Bush had been in office.
- StarlessKnight, on 09/05/2008, -1/+5Who was President for 9 months with a report that said "Osama determined to attack America?" Who was the President that was on vacation most of that time? Inspiring for someone in college to hear how their President is on vacation yet again and he's just been elected. Must be one hell of a stressful job.
Was Clinton unaware? No. But, again, who is and was the President that could do something about it, if they actually intended or could act on the intelligence they had? It wasn't Clinton in those 9 months. Clinton was gone. Clinton fought a Republican led battle over sex in the White House, was a lame duck, and left office. Bush was in office. Bush is still in office. Where's the condemnation?
- StarlessKnight, on 09/05/2008, -1/+5Who was President for 9 months with a report that said "Osama determined to attack America?" Who was the President that was on vacation most of that time? Inspiring for someone in college to hear how their President is on vacation yet again and he's just been elected. Must be one hell of a stressful job.
- darkciti2, on 09/05/2008, -5/+38The right wing "neocon" church nuts have "conveniently" forgotten that fact.
- chellion13, on 09/05/2008, -13/+92I saw what was coming and had to turn it off before I got to see much of it. These wounds are still very raw to some of us who live in the NYC area...these people will stop at nothing. They are the "let them eat cake" administration and party.
- unida767, on 09/05/2008, -0/+9Hell man I live in Australia and I can't watch that.
- anubis2night, on 09/05/2008, -0/+1just remember the "cake is a lie"
- TheDHC, on 09/05/2008, -15/+105When the economy is the primary concern among Americans today, how does a Bush republican survive a national election? Easy! shift the national focus away from the economy to war & terror by use of 9/11 and other scare tactic imagery.
It's a slight-of-hand, a magic trick, crafted by people like Karl Rove so you don't focus on issues that matter. in fact, it's a miracle that McCain is ONLY 7 points behind Obama according to Gallup, Obama should be crushing him by double digits.
Don't be fooled by disgraced republicans.- IrishJeff, on 09/05/2008, -14/+8Don't be fooled by disgraced republicans.... or the foolish Democrats for that matter. Both parties only care about one thing now... power. Hopefully someday Americans will figure out that we should stop blaming the politicians, and start blaming the people who keep them in office... WE THE PEOPLE.
- BungaloBill, on 09/05/2008, -0/+2It's not quite as close as you may think. A single poll tells you next to nothing. Check out a site that makes predictions based on an exhaustive listing of national and local polls and weighs them based on multiple factors including the pollster's historic accuracy.
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/
- IrishJeff, on 09/05/2008, -14/+8Don't be fooled by disgraced republicans.... or the foolish Democrats for that matter. Both parties only care about one thing now... power. Hopefully someday Americans will figure out that we should stop blaming the politicians, and start blaming the people who keep them in office... WE THE PEOPLE.
- BabushkaBlue, on 09/05/2008, -15/+127This was exploitation at its worst. I am disgusted by the Republicans for allowing this video.
- IrishJeff, on 09/05/2008, -12/+22 choices in the "greatest country on Earth"? That's it? Not hardly. Check out www.BobBarr2008.com and see the candidate the media doesn't want you to know about.
- thestranger, on 09/05/2008, -0/+3How thanks Irish Jeff for the exploitation of people's true reactions to a terrible thing that the Republican party did to further your own political beliefs.
- IrishJeff, on 09/05/2008, -2/+1Sorry if it came off that way. I just wanted people to know that they have a better choice than 2 parties that do nothing to better this country, and instead love to bash each other and make WE THE PEOPLE go at each others throats all the time. Don't you think America deserves better? I mean, I'll agree with you that what the Rep's did was wrong, but aren't the Dem's using their own smear tactics? The truth is, neither of these "corporations" care about you or me. They just want to gain the seat in the White House for 4 years. They have no real plans to do anything to help us out. Both parties consist of rich politicians (yes, even Barack with his $1.7 mil dollar home in Illinois). Both parties are guilty. Both have blood and green ink stained all over their hands. I hope only for better choices for all of us. At least hear me out. Sorry if I offended you earlier. Just wanted to inform you about someone that the media will never tell you about because he can't afford their multi-million dollar 20 second commercial spots.
- odb101, on 09/05/2008, -0/+2So ur just gonna sit there and spam Jeff? I thought that other guy said it best when he told you that you might as well write in Marylin Monroe, ur vote will be worth as much.
- StarlessKnight, on 09/05/2008, -0/+1I'm disgusted they clapped. "Hey, I'm here and they played a video. I'm suppose to clap. *Clap* Yay us. Woo."
- IrishJeff, on 09/05/2008, -12/+22 choices in the "greatest country on Earth"? That's it? Not hardly. Check out www.BobBarr2008.com and see the candidate the media doesn't want you to know about.
- lolupissed, on 09/05/2008, -45/+23We Had 9/11 Coming to us. We created these terrorist with years of bad foreign policy (which still goes on) and oppression. Ask yourself who the real terrorists are: The people that carry out these atrocious crimes or their creators?
- darkciti2, on 09/05/2008, -3/+21Why do republicans hate the Constitution and the USA?
George Bush said the Constitution is 'just a piece of paper' and he's signed more anti-Constitution bills into law than any Fascist dictator in history:
- Warrantless wiretaps on Citizens of the USA?!?!
- Americans can be called "Enemy Combatants" and held without trial or due process? WTF!?!!!?!
- Torture is acceptable and we're forefiting our agreement with the United Nations!!?!? WTF!!!!!?
If The United States of America doesn't take a new course in November of the year 2008, there will be blood.
And yes. I'm willing to start with my own. If the electronic unaditable voting Machines give another election to Corporate fatcat Republicans in 2008, I'll meet you guys in Crystal City on January 21st.
The rest will become history. - Shiftyeyedgoat, on 09/05/2008, -12/+5...Seriously? You're REALLY asking the question, "who are the real terrorists?"
It's the people who blow themselves up in markets and fly planes into buildings. It's not even a close debate.- Zarchon, on 09/05/2008, -5/+2Not on Digg. I really wish they would all move. A united America would be best for everyone.
- TheInfamousOne, on 09/05/2008, -1/+5@Zarchon:
Yes America would be so much better if everyone agreed with you. - bman1984, on 09/05/2008, -1/+2@ TheInfamousOne: It would be better for the rest of the world, because america wouldnt exist anymore
- SaintStryfe, on 09/05/2008, -5/+6No. Nothing in the world could have justified the 9/11 attacks. I refuse that and reject that entirely.
We may have treated them poorly, but nothing justifies that tactic. - BaldMonkey, on 09/05/2008, -2/+4Don't be stupid. Nothing justifies 9/11. I'm not American and I cant stand most of your foreign policies but that statement is just ridiculous.
- JekJob, on 09/05/2008, -1/+11So what justifies going into Iraq, who had nothing to do with 9/11, and killing innocent people there, just like al Qaeda killed innocent people in the US?
Bush has killing thousands more people in recent years than the terrorists have. Maybe we need to rethink our definition of "terrorist".- lowtolerance, on 09/05/2008, -1/+8Thank you! I hate how people think slapping the word 'war' on mass murder somehow makes it an honorable act.
- Zarchon, on 09/05/2008, -8/+1Let me slap a label on you two. Self hating bitches. I hate you two. I hate your attitude. If it is even possible to hate someone you have never met then I absolutely hate you. You ARE the weakest link. Move out of my country. Don't tell me it's your country, it's not. It is just a place for you to hate. Now we both hate. You hate America, I hate you.
I have to find a way to remove the politics of Digg from my RSS feed. The dicks, asses, and pussies are getting to me. - odb101, on 09/05/2008, -0/+5"The dicks, asses, and pussies are getting to me." - Zarchon
-lol who knew Digg = Porn
Maybe you should get out - TheInfamousOne, on 09/05/2008, -0/+3Zarchon:
Calling them names doesn't change the fact that we went to war for 9/11 with a country that had nothing to do with 9/11 and in fact the country that had the most to do with it (Saudi Arabia) we're pushing millions of dollars to for oil. This has hurt our chances to ever find the man that was responsible for 9/11 enormously.
Its not that I'm against all war, I indeed think we should push our troops to find Bin Laden and then get the hell out of there. - JekJob, on 09/05/2008, -0/+1Zarchon, I love my country. I hate when it does stupid things.
I agree that we need to find Bin Laden, but we aren't going to find him in Iraq.
- lamejoketeller, on 09/05/2008, -1/+3While you make a decent point, I'm still pretty sure the "real" terrorists are the religious fundamentalists who blow themselves up in markets full of families.
Sure, we have religious fundamentalists in the US who try to get their military agenda put forth by manipulating our democracy, but at least they mostly support democracy, and would never openly advocate the slaughter of innocent civilians.- echriswa, on 09/05/2008, -0/+1Project for A New American Century...Rebuilding America's Defenses 2000.
- JekJob, on 09/05/2008, -0/+1That's true, they wouldn't openly advocate killing civilians. However, according to numerous sources (google "Iraqi death toll") we have killed approximately 100,000 innocent Iraqi civilians. 3000 people died on 9/11.
I mean, how was the invasion of Iraq a proportional response? The point is, it wasn't. This saddens me - I'm not trying to provoke an argument among people who say that I "hate America". You have to be inhuman to think this isn't wrong.
- echriswa, on 09/05/2008, -0/+1Project for A New American Century...Rebuilding America's Defenses 2000.
- leif77, on 09/05/2008, -0/+5Im sorry your government mislead you into thinking that September 11th was all the Democratic party's fault, but you are sorely mistaken. The government as a whole can take responsibility for what happened on that day. America was founded as a neutral nation and only involved itself in global conflicts when it felt action was desperately needed. In the past 2 decades, and especially in the past 8 years, we started a war on a word. 'Terrorism' is as tangible an opponent as 'Drugs' and 'Poverty' and can, in no way, be defeated. There have always, and will always be terrorists. They may not have always been called terrorists, but they have always been around in one form or another. The war we are fighting right now... the one that has caused this inflation and excess spending... is a war that cannot be won on any ground, in any country, in any time-frame, under any leadership. Our nosy behavior is what caused September 11th, and our perrogative to police the world is going to bring about much worse if we keep up the mindset. Our next president, be it John McCain or Barack Obama, has a lot to dig us out of... and i truly feel for them. Dont put blame where it doesnt belong.
- vinod1978, on 09/05/2008, -0/+1I agree that our political policies have given a reason to terrorists to attack us, however they "commit acts of violence in order to change political or moral policies" which is the definition of terrorism. I'm not saying the United States shouldn't change its policy but to call the leaders that created these policies terrorists is a pushing it a lot.
- gonzo1082, on 09/05/2008, -0/+1"The people that carry out these atrocious crimes or their creators?"
BOTH, duh! they are equally immoral. but it still doesn't mean you can milk the 9/11 card to get some more votes. that's just wrong. you wouldn't cut open a healed wound and pour salt and lemon juice on it. - JigoroKano, on 09/05/2008, -0/+1Both are terrorists because both directly caused death and suffering to innocent civilians.
- darkciti2, on 09/05/2008, -3/+21Why do republicans hate the Constitution and the USA?
- dancameron, on 09/05/2008, -12/+24Full video dugg here, http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Unbelievable_RNC ...
- nycjap, on 09/05/2008, -16/+97Once again, KO manages to say exactly what I was thinking.
And this is written as a NY-er, who will, as I have every year since 2001, light a candle next Thursday.
Enough already. Obama '08.- IrishJeff, on 09/05/2008, -21/+2Enough already with the 2 party system. Hasn't everyone figured out that neither party really cares about our interests? Have the American people forgotten about the Constitution? It's time we wake up. Democrats are just as bad as the Republicans.... don't be fooled, Obama doesn't care about you just as much as McCain doesn't. Be open-minded and at least visit www.BobBarr2008.com. I know it will be hard to do since the media didn't tell you to, but trust me you might like it. You may even get that old American feeling back again. You know, the one where we all believed in our rights, worked hard, hated paying more taxes, and didn't expect hand outs from the government?
- bagboyrebel, on 09/05/2008, -4/+8"Hasn't everyone figured out that neither party really cares about our interests? Have the American people forgotten about the Constitution? It's time we wake up. Democrats are just as bad as the Republicans.... don't be fooled, Obama doesn't care about you just as much as McCain doesn't. Be open-minded and at least visit www.BobBarr2008.com." For someone telling other people to be open minded you are using a lot of definite statements.
- onoitzphil, on 09/05/2008, -0/+3Olbermann has been on my good side for a long time now. He brings me hope for MSM.
- xBobTheALienx, on 09/05/2008, -69/+11I know this post will be dugg down in a matter of minutes, but I would just like to say that Digg is incredibly biased. If you disagree, I challenge you to look at the ratio of pro-liberal to pro-conservative posts. If you agree, good for you. If this already well known, I fail.
- SaintStryfe, on 09/05/2008, -5/+50Since digg is based on what people think and want to see, based on Diggs, maybe reality just has a liberal bias.
- xBobTheALienx, on 09/05/2008, -11/+1If reality had a liberal bias, don't you think the Presidential race would be less close?
- eric1743, on 09/05/2008, -2/+6wouldn't it be nice if the electorate looked at reality more often instead of focusing on their bibles and 9/11
- Swingdown, on 09/05/2008, -4/+5The reality of the internet generation has a liberal bias
- Atomic05, on 09/05/2008, -2/+7@Swingdown
It's funny what uncontrolled, unlimited sources of information will do to people, eh?
- Diggpick, on 09/05/2008, -6/+31It is not biased because the people on here are blindly promoting a party or a political view. The reason for such pro-liberalism is because most people on here are open-minded bright young educated individuals who are able to distinguish for themselves what direction to follow.
Look at this video - if you believe this is propaganda, please look again and listen. He speaks the truth - it's not there to portray someone as good or bad for the mere sake of doing so - the video is really disrespectful and tragic to many.
I dare you to disagree and welcome your educated rebuttal.- xBobTheALienx, on 09/05/2008, -0/+4I must apologize:
I am NOT supporting or defending the Republican Party. I think both parties are equally misguided. I should have picked a better thread in which to make my comment about the bias I see in Digg. - theblt, on 09/06/2008, -0/+1You had me until you said "bright". Digg users are not bright. This site is going down into the ***** hole so fast.
- xBobTheALienx, on 09/05/2008, -0/+4I must apologize:
- dildoolielly, on 09/05/2008, -5/+17Yeah, thats why the democrats had huge screens exploiting 9/11 too!
Whats it like to have the brain of a raisin?- physivic, on 09/05/2008, -4/+1kinda feels mushy. I recover, though, into full bloom as soon as I return to my personal library and shut of the Election Fix News.
As for your comment above, agreed, although placement in a looney bin implies a chance of recovery, and I think that's thin here.
- physivic, on 09/05/2008, -4/+1kinda feels mushy. I recover, though, into full bloom as soon as I return to my personal library and shut of the Election Fix News.
- kingofinternet, on 09/05/2008, -4/+8just look at the republican convention pal, that ***** looked worse than a twins home game.
maybe there are just more people leaning left these days. - sugarazor, on 09/05/2008, -5/+21You are welcome to submit conservative stories.
Digg is not the media, it is not a place for objective journalism and if you expect it here, you're insane. It's biased towards a lot of things - Apple products, piracy, and yes - Barack Obama. The idea of Digg is for readers to vote on the stories they like, it's a Democratic process, deal with it or try to change it.
And regardless of your political leanings, the 9/11 video presented at the RNC tonight was nothing short of exploitation. Yes, I admit that I am a liberal, but I can admit when my side is wrong. That video was shameless on every level and inappropriate for ANY convention.- xBobTheALienx, on 09/05/2008, -1/+0I
- twiztidsinz, on 09/05/2008, -6/+16Don't worry... You can always just tune in to Fox's Fair and Balanced news to tell you exactly how to think.
- xBobTheALienx, on 09/05/2008, -0/+0Because I definitely identify with their views....
Oh, wait, that is the opposite of reality.
- xBobTheALienx, on 09/05/2008, -0/+0Because I definitely identify with their views....
- BaldMonkey, on 09/05/2008, -1/+8Digg is not a news paper or any other media outlet that needs to be objective. If the users here are leaning to the left, so will the site. But I see where you are coming from. There is a lack of critical thinking when it comes to links that has something negative to say about the republicans.
- xBobTheALienx, on 09/05/2008, -0/+0You make this web site a better place =D
- physivic, on 09/05/2008, -4/+10Why should it be balanced? Why should the population have any faith at all in conservative politics at this point? Have you been paying attention for the past 8 years? Everything has been squandered in a bet with the Goddamned Devil and you're worried about keeping some obscure website 50/50?! Go back to the Pleiades!
- lamejoketeller, on 09/05/2008, -1/+4I'm a democrat and I agree with you, but I think it's an inherent problem for a website like this. Studies show that democrats read the news way more often, use the internet way more often, and take part in social networking sites way more often, so it follows. Don't blame digg, it's a cultural thing.
- driver3108, on 09/05/2008, -2/+1Great response. I'm more on the conservative side and used to only visit digg to read articles. I really didn't used to care and to some degree still don't care about submitting stories and leaving comments. If I want to hear or read news I to one of the major news outlets (CNN, Headline News, Fox, MSNBC). Not severely biased sites like huffington post. I only leave comments if I see something that really pisses me off.
- TheInfamousOne, on 09/05/2008, -2/+3@driver3108 lol you visit fox and then say you won't visit severely biased sites like huffington post. Oh irony.
- driver3108, on 09/05/2008, -2/+1Great response. I'm more on the conservative side and used to only visit digg to read articles. I really didn't used to care and to some degree still don't care about submitting stories and leaving comments. If I want to hear or read news I to one of the major news outlets (CNN, Headline News, Fox, MSNBC). Not severely biased sites like huffington post. I only leave comments if I see something that really pisses me off.
- enki25, on 09/05/2008, -2/+5Ah the pointless bias argument. How about instead of worrying about where an opinion might fall along a political spectrum, you try to analyze it for what it means. In other words, use your god damn brain.
- vinod1978, on 09/05/2008, -3/+5Digg isn't biased, it is just representative of the number of liberals & moderates versus conservatives that actually use Digg.
Conservatives put their ears in the fingers and sing "la la la la la la", whenever the truth is told, and the internet is full of immediate & accurate information. This is not the place for conservatives, they would rather listen to Michael Savage or Rush Limbaugh. - odb101, on 09/05/2008, -2/+1xBobTheALienxxBobTheALienx = FAIL
- rootsm3, on 09/05/2008, -1/+3Digg is not a news organization!! It is a collective of everyday people talking about what they want to talk about. If we don't want to talk about John McCain and all his doings, then we don't have to!
- JigoroKano, on 09/05/2008, -0/+1You don't have to be liberal to recognize how absolutely disgusting that was.
- SoCalGolfGeek, on 09/05/2008, -0/+1"Reality has a well known liberal bias"
- Stephen Colbert - akinapb, on 09/06/2008, -0/+1It's what unlimited access to information does to you.
- SaintStryfe, on 09/05/2008, -5/+50Since digg is based on what people think and want to see, based on Diggs, maybe reality just has a liberal bias.
- Diggpick, on 09/05/2008, -14/+114Same old strategies - trying to scare the American people into voting for them. "Foreign Threats" - wtf does that even mean? McCain said he is "not scared of Russia and he is ready for them." Ready?? Ready for what? War? Absolutely shameful and disrespectful. I am truly awfully sorry for whatever has remained of once respected Republican party. It almost feels like the only people who will support McCain after watching this convention are either senseless morons or Neanderthals.
$50 to Obama- IrishJeff, on 09/05/2008, -32/+1Why pay $50 to Obama? Your taxes are already helping him. I don't like McCain either, but at least he refused tax payer funding. Confused? At least check out www.BobBarr2008.com.
- NotOptium, on 09/05/2008, -0/+9Jesus. Stop the spam.
- edblaze, on 09/05/2008, -18/+0Russia?! you are so uniformed I don't know where to start.
1)your wrong
2)Russia is a threat
3)keep livining in a cynical world, it will let better people take your opportunities.- rodrigo74, on 09/05/2008, -0/+7his wrong?
- IrishJeff, on 09/05/2008, -32/+1Why pay $50 to Obama? Your taxes are already helping him. I don't like McCain either, but at least he refused tax payer funding. Confused? At least check out www.BobBarr2008.com.
- GrodyChamp, on 09/05/2008, -79/+12Olbermann sure looks like a pansy which is strange, since all I see on Digg are titles where he's smacking or slamming something.
- DoctorFaust, on 09/05/2008, -0/+2Looks can be deceiving, comrade.
- welliwonder, on 09/05/2008, -16/+72These RNC people are really sick in the head.
- woofers07, on 09/05/2008, -15/+709/11 because POW as well as TERRORISM, Oh yeah did I mention POW?
- geoken, on 09/05/2008, -0/+3I think you forgot to mention POW (as in POW).
- Starshope, on 09/05/2008, -13/+68wow normally I try to stay as neutral as I can about the political flaming but wow. That is ***** disgusting. I gave the McCain campaign the benefit of the doubt when it came to Palin and her selection not being just mindless political pandering. But this is just...wow.
- TheCamino, on 09/05/2008, -1/+0
Why would you give them credit for not political pandering with Palin?
It's apparently obvious that every time she's around, she's holding the babies.
That's old-school, kiss the children pandering.- DEIx15x8, on 09/05/2008, -0/+1Maybe you should start watching some news before commenting next time. She rarely holds Trig. He only appears on camera when the rest of the kids are present and her husband, kids, or cindy mccain are always the ones holding him.
- TheCamino, on 09/05/2008, -1/+0
- dildoolielly, on 09/05/2008, -14/+32The GOP is heading like a speedtrain into extinction. The way of the Dodo bird.
The Republican party will be half the size of the B.C. Marijuana Party ticket by 2008.
Like you BigMac eating inbreds always say, "I'm Loving It!"- IrishJeff, on 09/05/2008, -9/+12 choices in the "greatest country on Earth"? That's it? Not hardly. Check out www.BobBarr2008.com and see the candidate the media doesn't want you to know about.
- 0Xonox0, on 09/05/2008, -3/+3Did you mean to say 2008? I believe the GOP is still alive and, well, its alive anyway. It needs more Ron Pauls if it's going to survive though, otherwise I think it'll be overtaken by the libertarian party in the next twenty or thirty years.
- iH8Liberals, on 09/05/2008, -2/+0please kill yourself
- kidathinnes, on 09/05/2008, -0/+1*****
- catbeller, on 09/05/2008, -0/+1That sound you hear is your political movement swirling down, down, down the drain...
hate is all you neocons ever had. - iH8Liberals, on 09/05/2008, -0/+0kisses!
- NonLeftistDiggr, on 09/05/2008, -0/+1Yeah, the GOP might fade, and couldn't happen soon enough so an actual conservative party will replace that liberal joke of a party.
- iloveobama, on 09/05/2008, -63/+4Keith Olbermann should really pay his taxes. He has a tax warrant out for not paying thousands in taxes.
- Shiftgood, on 09/05/2008, -2/+10irrelevant.
- enantiodromia, on 09/05/2008, -3/+9you're the worst troll i have seen in a long time, and thats really saying quite a lot.
- absurdist, on 09/05/2008, -1/+15[citation needed]
- aakashtuli, on 09/05/2008, -2/+4WTF!! completely irrelevant
- Tribis, on 09/05/2008, -6/+3If this was about Shawn Hannity no one would be burying your comment. Just remember the "Digg community" does not represent the general populous.
- echriswa, on 09/05/2008, -1/+1What the rethugs are best at...discrediting people who stand against them.
- brucial, on 09/05/2008, -12/+25They exploit this tragedy for political gain - a tragedy that has little to nothing to do with Iraq, a war they started and are still supporting - yet are not focusing on the ones they have accused responsible. makes sense right?
- iloveobama, on 09/05/2008, -71/+11Digg has to be the biggest Obama circle jerk I've ever seen
- Shiftgood, on 09/05/2008, -3/+15how can people think ignorance is bliss?
- cyberfreak01, on 09/05/2008, -4/+7that mean you've seen a lot of circle jerks? Personally I can't say I've ever seen any nor do I want to.
- odb101, on 09/05/2008, -0/+3So is your name
- aakashtuli, on 09/05/2008, -1/+1you are the biggest jerk I've ever seen
- rootsm3, on 09/05/2008, -0/+1Haha, uh ok. You know odb101 (?) personally?
- physivic, on 09/05/2008, -10/+43I saw this in the broadcast. I was surprised he had a clear moment to say anything about it. I'm downright flabbergasted, however, that although there is so much to be reported about candidates, their aims, objectives and histories, the powerful medium that is TV is continually abused to glorify candidates with pretty music and scary images and strike fear & servility into voters' hearts.
I would assume that the video he's talking about made him upset for the same reason my family was up in arms over the broadcast: it was blatant military glorification, straight out of Oceania. We all sat around asking each other why the R people think their voters will still buy that crack. - D1ckFace, on 09/05/2008, -15/+24neocons are ***** evil.
this new video (fabled enemies) explains who exactly was behind 9/11: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-214493319 ...
(and that will conform my statement above)- kinjutsu, on 09/05/2008, -0/+2http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=power+of+nig ...
A more in depth view of the people and events that really led of up to 9/11 and the Jihad in general. Let's not all put on our tinfoil hats just yet. - NinjaGod, on 09/05/2008, -0/+2Can't you just tell us who, it's 3:19am FFS.
- D1ckFace, on 09/05/2008, -0/+29/11 was organised by the illuminati (elite families who have most of the power in this world - including over the bush administration) and blamed it on iraq so they could go and steal their oil and kill a few of them. And a the same time destroy the constitution with the patriot act which effecticely renders US citizens as virtual slaves. I'm not making this up - watc the film and see for yourself - oh, and watch 'End Game' by alex jones to see what their overall plan is...
- NinjaGod, on 09/06/2008, -0/+1I've seen a lot of those kind of videos, and they all point to someone different. The only thing I know for sure, is that Osama was not the one who attacked us.
Either way, when they start putting chips in us, we're *****.
- iH8Liberals, on 09/05/2008, -0/+0seek mental help...
- D1ckFace, on 09/05/2008, -0/+1Thank you for your contructive comment. If you watch the video, you'll see congressmen,ex CIA agents, EX FBI agents and washington insiders all saying the same thing. I'm just the messenger...
- kinjutsu, on 09/05/2008, -0/+2http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=power+of+nig ...
- dildoolielly, on 09/05/2008, -16/+62SADDAM WILL NEVER ATTACK NYC AGAIN!!!
Right, you foxified idiot inbred nutjob zombies?
This is a PERFECT EXAMPLE of why these Nutjobs should not be allowed anywhere near the seat of government.
They belong in the looney bin.- bigcynic, on 09/05/2008, -3/+9America hater! Everyone knows it wasn't Saddam, it was Bill Clinton.
- brucial, on 09/05/2008, -3/+11The President of the United States is not a job for the delusional.
- catbeller, on 09/05/2008, -0/+1Apparently not true.
- pandaboy99, on 09/05/2008, -13/+25Republican response to 9/11: "What we were attacked by some damn arabs? Lets go attack them where they live too... where? i dunno just pick any country in the middle east! they are all responsible! WAR!!!" The problem was they picked a country Iraq to dismantle which was in direct opposition to Iran. For Iran the enemy of my enemy is my friend as they say
- akeldama, on 09/05/2008, -0/+3So you're saying that Iran is now a friend of the U.S.? I can't believe you're getting diggs for that commentary; pathetic.
- elrac, on 09/05/2008, -0/+1No, I think he is saying that it drove Iran and Iraq together. The US being the enemy.
- catbeller, on 09/05/2008, -0/+1Actual (more-or-less) Bush words to his Cabinet: I want bombs falling in thirty days, somewhere.
- DEIx15x8, on 09/05/2008, -0/+1Democrat response to 9/11: "What we were attacked by some damn arabs? Lets go attack them where they live too... where? i dunno just pick any country in the middle east! they are all responsible! WAR!!!" The problem was they picked a country Iraq to dismantle which was in direct opposition to Iran. For Iran the enemy of my enemy is my friend as they say.
Except the Democrats just like the Republicans would not be a jackass like you and jump into killing everyone that moves. They both would sit down and listen to the experts to make an educated decision based on the information that they are presented with which results in war with Iraq/Afghanistan. In the Democratic primaries (If you actually bothered paying attention to things other than Huff spam) you would have seen a debate in which the candidates were given the question of "If I were to tell you that we were just attacked in three cities and have credible evidence that it was al-qaida in Iraq what would you do?" The response, "Based on the information presented to me I would have to immediately respond by attacking with a greater force than them." Sounds like what Bush did doesn't it. I guess we can just assume that every anti bush/republican comment is now directed at the democrats as well since both parties think the same way in times of attack.
- akeldama, on 09/05/2008, -0/+3So you're saying that Iran is now a friend of the U.S.? I can't believe you're getting diggs for that commentary; pathetic.
- reed311, on 09/05/2008, -10/+53These people are desperate and they know full-well that fear-mongering wins elections. The greatest thing that ever happened to the Republicans was 9/11 and they have made damn sure to bring it up every chance they get while conveniently ignoring the fact that the country was in the hands of Bush for several months. It was his job to protect us that day and he failed.
- akeldama, on 09/05/2008, -3/+2Good thing the Neocons are the only ones in the fear-mongering business... false flag, draft, "did I mention that he's black," etc...
- StarlessKnight, on 09/05/2008, -0/+1Yeah, I hear that every time a Democra--wait, no I don't. Try harder.
- akeldama, on 09/05/2008, -3/+2Good thing the Neocons are the only ones in the fear-mongering business... false flag, draft, "did I mention that he's black," etc...
- kingofinternet, on 09/05/2008, -12/+35finally some moral ***** outrage from the limp wristed media.
it was a ghoulish ***** show. - bigcynic, on 09/05/2008, -13/+69Thanks, Republicans, but I don't need any hints to remember that you're the ones who let us get attacked that day.
- badtzmartin, on 09/05/2008, -4/+2Really? Go stumble around Wikipedia...
- kidathinnes, on 09/05/2008, -0/+2because Wikipedia is ALWAYS right. give me a break.
- b4gk1lz, on 09/05/2008, -2/+0Are you really that stupid? Republicans LET it happen...i guess if you say it enough in your tin foil covered head it will become true.
- Tribis, on 09/05/2008, -2/+1Bush had been in office for only a few months, did Al-Qaeda some how plan this in only a few months - right after Bush got in?
The high jackers had been in the country longer than Bush had been president. Liberals are just as absent minded as conservatives.- dgreaney, on 09/05/2008, -1/+4Bush was in office for 9 months. The CIA handed him a briefing document entitled "Bin Laden Determined to Strike in US". He did absolutely nothing. By comparison, Bill Clinton responded to warnings about plots timed to coincide with Y2K by elevating the altertness of Federal agencies, which resulted in the apprehension of the would-be Seattle bomber. If Bush had injected urgency into the federal bureaucracy regarding Bin Laden in August, perhaps the many clues pointing towards the plotters --including the FBI reports regarding suspicious activities by foreign-citizen Arabs in flight schools --would have been acted upon. This an an apples-to-apples comparison, and Bush's failure compared to Clinton is crystal clear.
- kidathinnes, on 09/05/2008, -2/+2pwned
- catbeller, on 09/05/2008, -0/+3If Clinton were in office on 9-11, you'd never shut up about the Democrats killing NYC. Apparently Clinton's Presidency extends through 9-11-01, after which I assume everything will be Obama's fault.
- badtzmartin, on 09/05/2008, -4/+2Really? Go stumble around Wikipedia...
- random255, on 09/05/2008, -10/+63I cannot even imagine a tape like that being played at the DNC. It strikes me as odd to note these sorts of differences.
- sugarazor, on 09/05/2008, -3/+38If the DNC played that tape, the right would have come unglued. Just like if Obama had a pregnant teenage daughter, or if Joe Biden was a POW and brought it up in every speech. The Republicans are the party of having your cake and eating it too.
- catbeller, on 09/05/2008, -0/+1They are the party that now, through a web of businesses, own the news networks that cover them. The commentators are vetted for appropriate lack of "bias", aka reality, when they are considered for promotion. This is why we have a panoply of "stars" that can't remember basic facts, like, say, Iraq didn't attack us - and won't bring it up. Apparently the audience is supposed to supply its own context, which it can't - because the "stars" won't supply any facts. Olbermann, however, stepped up and said the truth.
- sugarazor, on 09/05/2008, -3/+38If the DNC played that tape, the right would have come unglued. Just like if Obama had a pregnant teenage daughter, or if Joe Biden was a POW and brought it up in every speech. The Republicans are the party of having your cake and eating it too.
- JFetch, on 09/05/2008, -8/+30Why would they remind us of a attack that we stopped going after the guy behind it so we could get Saddam out of power?
- lowtolerance, on 09/05/2008, -0/+6Because American's don't seem to know the difference?
- chubbybubba, on 09/05/2008, -48/+15The Bias in Digg is sickening. Digg is starting to get really sad. The whine factor of the liberals is getting so loud it's obvious they're worried about something. 2008 is starting to seem a whole lot like 2004 did.
- vermax, on 09/05/2008, -9/+14so go away, and take your idiot spammers with you, you clearly don't belong here.
go on, there's the door.- benotago, on 09/05/2008, -4/+7Digg is for everyone man. Not just democrats. Everyone is entitled to a different point of view.
- rootnik, on 09/05/2008, -2/+6Saddly, Digg is not for everybody anymore.
- Shiftgood, on 09/05/2008, -4/+10whats your opinion on the topic though?
- SuperVepr308, on 09/05/2008, -4/+5Methinks they prefer their circle jerk to listening to different opinions. Let em' have it. Nothing was ever changed or done because of Digg.com. Never will.
- Valkoon, on 09/05/2008, -2/+4It will be funny when McCain / Palin win the election and all these jerks will be left scratching their heads.
- Gutterpunk, on 09/05/2008, -2/+2Shut the ***** up.
No that I want to stifle free expression, but you do realize that the same "Site XXX has a bias for Liberals" is seen on Reddit, Fark, Something Awful... In fact, all the "big" web site that aren't rightist (like freepers or LGF) have those comments somewhere.
Like if all those site were in to some conspiracy. Wake up sheeple, they aren't biased FOR the Libs, they are biased AGAINST the Republicans.
- vermax, on 09/05/2008, -9/+14so go away, and take your idiot spammers with you, you clearly don't belong here.
- Rippleeffect, on 09/05/2008, -47/+12I went back after and watched it again. I didn't see anything graphic that needed an apology. Someone correct me here. I'm offended that the democrats would like to forget that 9/11 ever happened.
- brucial, on 09/05/2008, -6/+7It isn't so much the graphic images in the 'tribute' that are offensive, but rather its strategic placement in a convention that has done nothing but present negative attacks and a message of Be afraid of terror and democrats!
Where were the issues? The important things that, as far as I can tell, only non-gullable, intelligent people seem to care about?- Rippleeffect, on 09/05/2008, -4/+2I saw nothing in there regarding democrats. Are you telling me that the democracts never attack republicans?
Frankly, all I see are negative attacks about bush (he deserves it), mccain, palin, but when they attack back, its bad form. Hypocrits. - odb101, on 09/05/2008, -1/+3The fact that they are exploiting 9-11 to promote their candidate and political party is whats offensive. In the video the voice clearly says "this is a war America will win, we'll have a president who knows how", Its obviously a blatant attempt to use 911 for political gain. Fear mongering and the exploitation of tragedies should have no place in a party convention, or American politics for that matter.
- Rippleeffect, on 09/05/2008, -4/+2I saw nothing in there regarding democrats. Are you telling me that the democracts never attack republicans?
- twiztidsinz, on 09/05/2008, -6/+8It's called "Rest in peace"..
So basically, you're offended that the Democrats wouldn't use corpses to further their political agenda?
This is down right and blatantly a terrorist tactic.
I wish I could say I was exaggerating, but it's a clear cut definition of terrorism: "the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion" and it has political motives.- Rippleeffect, on 09/05/2008, -3/+4I went back and watched it in HD, didn't see anything graphic. I saw images that reminded me of exactly how I felt. As far as I'm concerned, we should never forget what happened, be reminded of it. Just as Pearl Harbor and every other attack and battle.
I'm not ashamed to remember. Are you? You forget the past, you're doomed to repeat it. - twiztidsinz, on 09/05/2008, -3/+3As the video said, we all remember where we were and what we were doing that day.
I didn't need a reminder to have clear memory of the events of that day.
And I certainly didn't need a reminder wrapped in a political advert.
They used the memory of those lost to further their political motives, and you know DAMNED well that had the Democrats even entertained the idea of contemplating this, the Republicans would have been all over it like a pack of rabid dogs. - southwestnut, on 09/05/2008, -1/+1Rest in peace?
How many times do we hear the Liberal media posting the war casualties? Nearly every hour on CNN.
So the RNC posted some pictures of 9/11, big deal, it is part of history and we can not erase it. It was put there to remind people who would rather stick their head in the sand that this indeed happened and his strategies for the continued protection of Americans trumps Obama's.
So what if the images were used, I get so sick of seeing liberal trash on the front page. Digg is becoming a repository of lies, garbage, and propaganda. I look forward to election day so this can be settled once and for all. Will that change Digg? Nope. If Obama wins, there will be nothing but "oh he is the best thing since sliced bread" articles. If McCain wins, it will be nothing but "Bush again, McSame, blah, blah, blah". I wish there was a true balance on digg, like a entirely separate subsite for political crap, away from the front page and the rest of the tech news and such. Is that so hard?
http://www.thefontman.com/troll_b_gone.gif------le ... see if this works....
- Rippleeffect, on 09/05/2008, -3/+4I went back and watched it in HD, didn't see anything graphic. I saw images that reminded me of exactly how I felt. As far as I'm concerned, we should never forget what happened, be reminded of it. Just as Pearl Harbor and every other attack and battle.
- jer.williams, on 09/05/2008, -5/+4Please tell me you're just a troll.
- vinod1978, on 09/05/2008, -4/+4@Rippleeffect - I don't think anyone could ever forget what happened on 9-11. That's the point. The only reason why those images were shown now was to instill fear in the American public. Fear that is supposed to force you to vote for the candidate that still thinks that the "surge is working", and in fact bragged about it during his speech. This is the fear that they used to get us into occupying Iraq, and it is the same fear that they are using to get us to occupy Iran. No way, no how, no McCain.
- DEIx15x8, on 09/05/2008, -1/+1The surge is working. Pre surge to post surge data shows a clear difference. Whether the country is as peaceful as Florida is irrelevant to the effectiveness of the surge. Iraq will most likely never be as peaceful as Florida but the surge has helped speed up the process and make things safer for those over seas fighting. Anyone that wants to argue over the surge should be sent to Iraq alone. If you were over there fighting to protect your country would you rather go into a town with one other person or two. I think every soldier would prefer more backup and support. It keeps everyone safer and helps increase productivity.
- DoctorFaust,
- brucial, on 09/05/2008, -6/+7It isn't so much the graphic images in the 'tribute' that are offensive, but rather its strategic placement in a convention that has done nothing but present negative attacks and a message of Be afraid of terror and democrats!