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Palin’s Alternate Universe ( or reality challenged?)

nytimes.com — In such a serious moment in American history, it ’s hard to believe that someone with Sarah Palin’s limited skills could possibly be playing a leadership role.

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  • duckley, on 10/04/2008, -7/+78FTA:

    We’ve lived through nearly two terms of a Cheney-Bush-Rove "administration" that believed it could create its own reality:

    “Deficits don’t matter.” “Brownie, you’re doing a heckuva job.” “Those weapons of mass destruction must be somewhere.”
    • weech, on 10/05/2008, -1/+8Speaking of creating false realities. At some point it occurred to me how acceptable it would be if Obama were to pander to the "Joe six pack" crowd of the black populace as Palin does to white folks. I am not white nor republican and still find her rhetoric insulting. Really, think about it.. what would the reaction be if Obama were to say something that inflammatory, such as, "I'm reachin out to regular ole' reefer blazin Tyrone 40 oz's out there" ? WTF? But Palin gets a free pass.

      Never mind not comprehending the policies or issues with the economy or the GOP's bold face lies---McCain's base is too ***** stupid to even realize when they're being talked down to and patronized in this way. Do people take pride in Palin's rhetoric? Does anybody out there really get turned on by being labeled as a "Joe Six Pack" demographic? Seriously, if there is I'd like to hear because it boggles my mind and maybe I'm just wrong.

      But I guess at the end of the day, Palin is "just like you" as she proclaims...except for the fact that she's a millionaire and you're not.
      • emehrkay, on 10/05/2008, -0/+1I said this out loud last night with a group of friends - "this man was a professor/teacher of constitutional law and he still isnt good enough"

        dude, he is black. he has to work twice as hard to be seen as equal. that's just reality
    • nick1971, on 10/05/2008, -0/+5I agree with almost nothing that the Republican party thinks. Having said that, until the selection of Sarah Palin I thought that they were a serious political organization.
      The nearest I have come to understanding why they did this is this article from the Canadian press.
      http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/A_Mighty_Wind_bl ...
      Comments to help me understand what is going on in their minds would be appreciated.
      • Bertram23, on 10/05/2008, -0/+4My theory is that the Republican party has given up all pretence that their candidates will ever have any say in how the country is run so the skills required to do so are not relevant to their candidacy. Its looking increasingly as if this is being accepted by their supporters as well.

        Now whether this is any less true of the Democrats is a subject for debate but I think its true to say that in general Mr Obama's supporters at least think they are voting for a president rather than an administration.
      • OriginalLucid1, on 10/05/2008, -3/+1Do you honestly think Slow Joe Biden is such a superior candidate? Talk about alternate reality. Every time he opens his mouth he is making something up. The man doesn't know the difference between Art. I and Art. II of the CONSTITUTION for the love of God!
  • ginny56, on 10/04/2008, -7/+119I don't know which is scarier, Palin's ignorance on issues or McCain's insistance that she knows what she is talking about. He truly can't believe that. Which means he is a liar.
    • rald84, on 10/05/2008, -2/+7pants on fire
    • ElJif, on 10/05/2008, -2/+20What's scary is that millions of people don't really care about that and they'll still vote for them regardless of their qualifications. She, apparently, can connect with the everyday person and that qualifies her to be a heartbeat away from one of the most powerful positions in the world.
      • charm803, on 10/05/2008, -0/+17You're right.

        I saw "Religulous" yesterday and when they were talking about Bush, a lady was quoted as saying:

        "I don't know his politics, but I'm going to vote for him based on his faith." (Or something like that-I can't recall it verbatim.)

        Sadly, this is the reason many people are supporting McCain & Palin, even though their own actions are not very Christian like.

        Mormons would never vote for Obama because being dark is considered a punishment in the Mormon faith-yet they use religion to justify it.

        Scary, right?


      • wastelander, on 10/05/2008, -0/+13"Mormons would never vote for Obama because being dark is considered a punishment in the Mormon faith-yet they use religion to justify it."

        Not any more. Just like polygamy, when it became a problem someone had a "revelation" and changed it. Convenient how that works out. I guess Mormons are nothing if not pragmatic.

    • iofthestorm, on 10/05/2008, -3/+3Of course he doesn't believe that. He may be a manipulative bastard, but he's not stupid.
    • AriaStar, on 10/05/2008, -0/+4He's a liar, or he's delusional.
    • thereisnostate, on 10/05/2008, -0/+4or that millions of Americans voted for Bush twice and McCain in the primaries..
  • 5celery, on 10/04/2008, -5/+33The only way McCain/Palin can win is to pretend we are in a fantasy world in which they are the better candidates.
    Reality, truth, history and public opinion are against them.
  • brishchik, on 10/04/2008, -5/+30Right on the money. In fact Palin herself mumbled something like she was in for 5 weeks, so didn't know much about the effect of economic meltdown on their future plans.
  • roofview, on 10/04/2008, -5/+13Well said.
    • graeh, on 10/05/2008, -1/+2I swear he's a member of the Munster family - he has the most amusingly unrealistic forehead.
  • voxlisa999, on 10/04/2008, -5/+64This is exactly why McCain is so angry all the time. He now realizes she has no intellect or knowledge or education. He didn't know who the hell she was. He was bamboozled into this pick- lied to by the Bush/Cheney/Rove crowd running his campaign. They thought they could package her like they packaged Bush in 2000. No doubt she lied about her own credentials. This woman hired a City Manager when she was elected part-time Mayor of a hamlet of 5500 people because she had no administrative skills!!

    McCain is embarrassed by her. We all know that. She doesn't even really govern Alaska- her aides do. She's a very good actress. I bet she gets her own reality TV show. People want to watch her the same way they were drawn to the freak shows at the turn of the century. The reason OJ gets ratings and Anna Nicole Smith got ratings. People don't come to see her or tune in because she is "so much like them." In fact, it is quite the opposite. It's because she's so bizarre. The Republicans publicly say great things about her that they DO NOT BELIEVE. 99% of them anyway. They all know she's an idiot, trying to sexualize herself to get votes- but apparently Conservatives really don't have any principles after all.

    Palin is already running for 2012. The "Legally Blonde" movies are her template. She really believes that people (on the right) are taking her seriously. Oh what? She's going to study hard for the next 4 years and become super intelligent? Sorry Sarah, it's not in the genes.
    • spaceman84, on 10/05/2008, -1/+11McCain has been angry all of the time for the last 30+ years.
      • voxlisa999, on 10/05/2008, -0/+1Yes, you are right. I concede the point. I should have said "angrier!" LOL!
    • threemagic, on 10/05/2008, -1/+16If I was McCain I'd fire

      a) the people that recommended her
      b) anyone that had any part of her background check

      pew pew pew
  • JAB6, on 10/04/2008, -8/+19Is Sarah Palin qualified to be one heartbeat away from the Presidency? You bethca! And if you believe that I know a whole bunch of folks who have bridges to nowhere they'd like to sell you. ;) ;) ;)
    • loganro, on 10/05/2008, -19/+3The qualifications argument doesn't work. If she is not qualified to be VP, then Obama is definitely not qualified to be president of the United States.
      • iofthestorm, on 10/05/2008, -0/+10What the *****? I don't understand this argument at all. Constitutional scholar from Harvard vs a ***** hockey mom who doesn't know anything about public policy? You neocons are really something.
      • yacks, on 10/05/2008, -1/+7Experience != Qualifications.

        I think a lot of it has to deal with.. who's smarter? I would say Obama who also had more experience other than just politics. *cough* Palin *cough* Who's only previous job experiences before politics were Beauty Pagent and sport reporter... though she did help her husband with his business.

        But I can play this game too.. Palin claimed that Biden was a lifer in Congress, what the heck is McCain??? ;)
    • benjihad, on 10/05/2008, -5/+3I'm a left-winger extraordinaire, but I have to tell you guys something. If I hear the phrase "one heartbeat away from the presidency" one more time I am going to vote for this silly bitch anyhow.

      actually I can't back that up. but it sounds like a republican "talking point" and it makes my ears hurt.
      mccain is old. we get it.
      • yacks, on 10/05/2008, -0/+5Whether it be McCain or Obama, both of their VP's are a heartbeat away from being President. It is a valid argument.. Which is why Bush's pick was also scary as well. What if Bush died in Office? Do you want Cheney as President?
  • clankster, on 10/05/2008, -7/+60Joe Sixpack here. Please stop pretending to be like me, you duplicitous beauty queen/robot.
  • fsumus, on 10/05/2008, -4/+19Joe Sixpack? What about Joe Keg?
    • jruygne, on 10/05/2008, -0/+10Obama's got the college age bracket locked up.
    • jperson, on 10/05/2008, -0/+5Who the f*ck is Joe Six-pack? Are we a nation of alcoholics and pr*hic* proud of it or something?
  • Newportbeachguy, on 10/05/2008, -8/+71I hated Palin before it was cool.
    • BlacklabelSAR, on 10/05/2008, -1/+7You just became too cool for Newport Beach (I grew up there and still need therapy). Good God man, save yourself !
    • JDLamb88, on 10/05/2008, -0/+2I've been hatin' on Palin since before we acquired Alaska from the Russians!
  • nernie, on 10/05/2008, -6/+11Is this the person whose face we want representing our country on the world stage? If you like hot, that's great, but if not, we'd all better do something about it. And it really is all up to us now--there's nobody but us to take responsibility now. Please everybody, let the world see that the will of the people is reflected in our leadership. Make sure you vote http://make.ourpledgetovote.com/
  • ss180, on 10/05/2008, -6/+44"But after Senator Biden suggested that John McCain’s answer to the nation’s energy problems was to “drill, drill, drill,” Ms. Palin promptly pointed out, as if scoring a point, that “the chant is ‘Drill, baby, drill!’ ”"

    I wanted to slap her so hard when I first heard her say that
    • nastronomical, on 10/05/2008, -29/+2Lemme guess you are a gay man?
      • magus_melchior, on 10/05/2008, -0/+19We don't know that, but we do know that you're a twit for trying to turn that into an insult.
      • BlacklabelSAR, on 10/05/2008, -1/+8Here's Nastro's next thought:

        "A gay Christian man, hmm?" " A good repressed Gay Christian man, just the way 'ol Nasty likes 'em, hmm?"

        He's hitting on you.

    • LinuxLars, on 10/05/2008, -0/+3What was sad is that she thought that was important.
  • zobs, on 10/05/2008, -5/+9Somehow, in this country, stupid people have more power - and sounds like that will help this country - to down faster...
    • LilRabbitFooFoo, on 10/05/2008, -0/+11Mob rule is the fundamental problem with a true democracy, which is what we are devolving into. We are supposed to be a Republic.

      On the flip-side, our representatives are supposed to REPRESENT us, not do whatever lobbyists pay them to do.

      So, how do you win this one? The only legitimate way is to ban lobbyists and publicly finance campaigns.
      • iofthestorm, on 10/05/2008, -0/+2
      • RipleyIsDead, on 10/05/2008, -0/+6It's starting to look like Al Qaeda won... I don't remember things being nearly this schizophrenic before 9/11.
      • LilRabbitFooFoo, on 10/05/2008, -0/+4this has nothing to do with Al Qaeda. This is all about the SHOCK DOCTRINE. Scumbags in power using FEAR tactics to pass their long standing agendas during times of crisis. Using our need to trust them as a Machiavellian means to an end.

        Osama is a just another terrorist. History has always had cowards like this and probably always will. Terrorists have no power whatsoever, unless we give it to them by giving into fear. Osama's one bullet away from history. I don't fear him or nuts like him. They can't harm really harm our nation.

        The real danger to this country comes from within. From traitors who have squeezed the American middle class so dry, the system is now fundamentally broken. :(
    • yacks, on 10/05/2008, -0/+4Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups. ;)
    • jperson, on 10/05/2008, -0/+3Exactly. Using numbers to justify a position is false, and it dangerously excludes free thought. Freedom of thought needs to exist to even be aware of other freedoms (or lack thereof).
  • franklymister, on 10/05/2008, -6/+27Why can't we have a serious Republican candidate for VP?

    This is just insulting.
    • LilRabbitFooFoo, on 10/05/2008, -1/+20Because they put a moron in the White House who did everything they told him. Why stop now?
    • magus_melchior, on 10/05/2008, -1/+9I don't know about you, but Cheney is serious stuff. Seriously dangerous and seriously frightening.
      • LilRabbitFooFoo, on 10/07/2008, -0/+1Cheney was the gun in GW's back, the guarantee that their agenda would be met one way or another, and the price Bushie-boy had to pay to become President.

        No one would have picked Cheney as a VP candidate for any other reason than that.
    • jbkbtbeb, on 10/05/2008, -0/+2it just shows mccain's lack of judgement...it is a pretty scarey thought that if he can't get this one right, what might be his other choices. to begin with he has got to have a pretty extreme case of ptsd. so many of our vets come home with ptsd after having suffered far less trauma than he did. has that ever been addressed? i know some vets who suffer from this terrible disorder and i would not want to have someone with it be the one with their "finger on the button".....
    • betheturtle, on 10/05/2008, -0/+2I think even Republicans should be insulted. Palin is retarded beyond the partisan levels.
  • ericjohnson0, on 10/05/2008, -48/+17Alternate Universe? Lets try this:

    Jeremiah Wright, Frank Marshall Davis, Bill Ayers, Tony Rezko, etc.- A growing number of Barry's friends are dirty but NO, he isn't... not The One.

    He spent the first few years of his life in an Islamic School, his brother says he was raised Muslim but , NO he was never Muslim.

    He has been endorsed bu Chavez, the dude in Iran, Hamas, Hezbollah, etc. but NO Barry isn't soft on Terror.

    His pastor, his former preacher, his wife and he himself has made insulting comments about whites, but NO Barry isn't racist.

    How's that DailyKOS Kool Aid tastin'? Good I guess.
    • LilRabbitFooFoo, on 10/05/2008, -8/+13Keep spinning that Swift Boat scum. Go ahead. Even if ANY of it were true, and I don't think ANY of it is, it would make Obama 1% as dirty as McCain. You just go on pretending that's not the truth.
      • loganro, on 10/05/2008, -9/+5Why do you not think that any of that is true?
      • LilRabbitFooFoo, on 10/05/2008, -1/+6Because I've read the truth and been alive long enough that the longer you live the longer you meet ALL kinds of people, geniuses and retards, heroes and traitors, and associating ME with the actions of someone I knew in passing twenty years ago is just flat out ridiculous.

        You CAN'T be a politician without meeting some pretty shady characters. It's part of the job to compromise between the greedy and the poor, the left and the right, the ignorant and the intelligent. And that means you WILL shake hands with everyone from child molesters (re: senators) and corrupt politicians (re: senators), whether you know it or not at the time.

        Obama is the epitome of the American Dream. Worked his damn way up from nothing to a hair's breath away from the Presidency. He's intelligent, educated, and hardworking like Bill Clinton was and has even higher moral standards. Instead of working 9-5 with a nap in between like Bush, he'll be working 20 hours a day, 7 days a week, like Clinton did, to try and fix what Bushco has done to this country.

        And THAT is what I'm looking for right now in a President. We've already had the foxes running the hen house and now we're all outta chickens.
    • dremango, on 10/05/2008, -20/+10Someone finally telling it like it is! Thank's Eric!
    • magus_melchior, on 10/05/2008, -5/+9Better DailyKos kool-aid than Free Republic poison.
    • Peekman, on 10/05/2008, -2/+7Dugg for Islam
    • medfreak, on 10/05/2008, -2/+4Keating 5 bitch.
    • Azerael, on 10/05/2008, -3/+51. If Obama WAS raised a Muslim, why should we care?

      2. Maybe he's been endorsed by Iran because they DONT WANT TO BE INVADED.
      • LilRabbitFooFoo, on 10/05/2008, -2/+21. We shouldn't, but he wasn't.

        2. Who the Hell listens to that Iranian nutter, honestly?
    • reconsldr74d, on 10/05/2008, -3/+5I have a great idea. All hard line right wing Republicans should form their own party and just call it Hate, Fear and Hippocracy. Then there will be no more confusion as to what they truly stand for.
  • oneredeye, on 10/05/2008, -30/+10Why can't we have a serious Democratic candidate?
    • jeremyosborne81, on 10/05/2008, -0/+4Why can't we just have a good candidate?
  • thegrantman, on 10/05/2008, -5/+16Sarah Palin : "her vacuity is almost zenlike."
    -Bill Griffiths,author of the comic Zippy,originally used to describe Dan Quayle.
  • nastronomical, on 10/05/2008, -29/+5Oh snap the Obama disciple from NYTIMES is upset that the Messiah is getting PWN'D!!!



    LOLZ
  • kelly, on 10/05/2008, -29/+9The ironic thing here is that she has more experience than Obama... yet the left always forgets that point.
    • loganro, on 10/05/2008, -20/+4They will continue to forget that. That is how liberals work. They can say anything, even without facts (which is the case in most things) and expect others to believe it.
    • guyincognitoo, on 10/05/2008, -2/+13Even if you were to say there experience level is the same, the rest of Obama's resume far out weighs hers. He would get more experience in one month as president then she has in her lifetime.
      • RipleyIsDead, on 10/05/2008, -1/+6The right, easily snowed, seems to forget THAT. But that's just how neo-cons work.
    • magus_melchior, on 10/05/2008, -2/+13You only think Palin has more experience because you take Palin at her word, and you fall for the myth that the McCain campaign still trumpets that experience before Presidency somehow matters.

      I thought we answered this question in the Democratic primary. If experience really mattered to us, Clinton would win in a landslide against Obama.
    • mizlane, on 10/05/2008, -0/+1Experience in what, having babies! Shooting moose, or wolfs from helicopters, throwing her co-workers under the bus when convenient...

      And when it comes to education Obama is more intelligent than McCain, Palin, and Bush rolled into one...
  • nullcodes, on 10/05/2008, -32/+8McCain/Palin is going to win. You can gather on digg and have an Obama Hussein lovefest on here but that's not going to change real life and the minds of the majority of voters who will show up to see to it that McCain/Palin wins. You hippies won't even show up to vote. Even many traditional democrats are going to be voting for McCain ... don't believe the hype of the so called polls. The polls are ASSUMING that democrats will have a huge turnout .. that's simply not going to happen. Democrats have no winning strategy besides whispering a false and treasonous claim that Republicans are planning an "October/November surprise". Well, here's a surprise .. democrats are gonna lose bad. Oh wait that's only a surprise to diggers.
    • ericjohnson0, on 10/05/2008, -16/+4I just hope the Left violently riots after the McCain/ Palin victory so they can publically demonstrate their hatred of Free Speech and Democracy. Then the Truth will finally be Out.
      • digg1520, on 10/05/2008, -1/+9yeah and if pigs would fly that truth would finally be out, too
      • magus_melchior, on 10/05/2008, -0/+9Hatred of free speech and democracy?

        And why are you randomly capitalizing? Are you fancying yourself as Ben Franklin?

        Where were you when the Minnesota police rounded up protesters before the RNC convention, and rounded up some more even though they weren't even violent? They rounded up journalists, beat them into the ground, and ripped off their credential tags! Is THAT your idea of free speech/press?

        Or how about the Republicans' desperate voter disqualification tactics which are clearly unconstitutional? You can't possibly think that it's OK to revoke someone's registration purely because they're on someone else's tax return, or because they're an out-of-state student, or because their house was foreclosed because of ***** Republican economic policy?

        I don't think so. We won't be rioting because we hate free speech and democracy. We may be protesting because you and the Republican Party are doing everything in their power to take those away from us.
    • Peekman, on 10/05/2008, -0/+3I puked a little in my mouth after reading these two comments.........

      You know... one of those after dinner, little too much to drink, how are there so many foolios out there kinda pukes?
    • fuzzybeard, on 10/05/2008, -1/+3Sure they will, Herr Goebbels...
  • GLorneC, on 10/05/2008, -29/+4I think if you replace Palin with Obama it still works. But I'm much closer to Obama since I used to community organize with Tim McVeigh, got a killer deal on a home loan from Al Capone and my preacher David Duke was the God father of my children
    • LucFerris, on 10/05/2008, -1/+8You're just stupid. How can you afford a computer?
    • Peekman, on 10/05/2008, -0/+5He bought it with credit...
  • nastronomical, on 10/05/2008, -28/+7Fear leads to Anger, Anger leads to Hate and Hate leads to Suffering.

    - Yoda.

    I sense the left is fearfull of Palin.
    • ericjohnson0, on 10/05/2008, -17/+4Nothing like a 'Real Feminist' who got where she is without her crooked husband (Hillary) or spreading her legs (average movie star) to scare the hell out of the Left.

      Sarah Palin is more of a man than most of the 'men' on the Left.
    • yodacallmesome, on 10/05/2008, -1/+5I feel a disturbance in the force.
      http://yodacallmesome.gaia.com/blog/2008/9/a_distu ...
    • BlacklabelSAR, on 10/05/2008, -1/+7Fear leads to Anger, Anger leads to Hate and Hate leads to Suffering.

      - Yoda.

      You are projecting.
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_project ...
      In psychology, psychological projection (or projection bias) is a defense mechanism in which one attributes one’s own unacceptable or unwanted thoughts or/and emotions to others. Projection reduces anxiety by allowing the expression of the unwanted subconscious impulses/desires without letting the conscious mind recognize them. The theory was developed by Sigmund Freud and further refined by his daughter Anna Freud, and for this reason, it is sometimes referred to as "Freudian Projection"[1] [2]
    • Peekman, on 10/05/2008, -0/+6Suffering leads to Revolution?
    • RipleyIsDead, on 10/05/2008, -0/+5Of course we are you moron, because half of the country has a big neo-con boner for her. She could take a dump on the flag and you people would vote for her. Never mind the fact that America is burning, and the neo-cons are to blame.
    • vegx, on 10/05/2008, -0/+2Everyone should be fearful should Palin become Vice President or especially President.
  • rjwusa, on 10/05/2008, -23/+8Bob Herbert is a racist for criticizing Palin. The NYT is a liberal rag. 'nuff said.
  • shiftclick, on 10/05/2008, -29/+7Ah, the infamous "Op-Ed" piece from the NY Times (as in baseless). Are we really surprised by this? The NYT is quickly becoming about as newsworthy as the Huffnpuff post or "stinkprogress.org". Sounds like the liberal base and MSM is a little afraid of losing all Hilary's votes to another woman... I bet Slick Willy would bang her though.

    ETA: Oh, and HOLY SH_T!!! Talk about a face for radio!!! That guy's uglier than my dog's shaved ass.
    • czxxx, on 10/05/2008, -0/+6You shaved your dog's ass?

      :(
    • docmark, on 10/05/2008, -1/+6Hey shiftclick - The NY Times is right on the money. Palin is an imbecile. The fact that she's the Republican choice for VP should be an insult to all. Send her packing back to her white-trash life in Alaska. By the way - if that's your face, do you have any mirrors at home?
    • magus_melchior, on 10/05/2008, -0/+5When ideology instructs its followers to be suspicious of facts, ideologues reject reality.
  • SarcasticGenius, on 10/05/2008, -20/+6Why is the Digg community, or more specifically the left leaning part of it, so infatuated with Palin? Information about her is good and needed, but most of the stories now are just silly hit pieces, yet they get to the front page.

    We are losing focus on the two men running and the issues.
    • monofoto59, on 10/05/2008, -1/+7Because there's a huge probability that McCain, if elected, would not survive his term. Anyone who shows his medical records to a closed group of reporters for a few hours and allows no copies points the spotlight square on his vice presidential choice.
      • SarcasticGenius, on 10/05/2008, -2/+2Of all the buries I received, you were the only one that replied, and also made a good argument done with respect. Thank you.
    • ogbar, on 10/05/2008, -0/+3because they are fearful. She beat Biden in the debate and even after all the media smearing and even email snooping.. they can't find anything to crucify her with. Baseless attacks are so silly when looked out from outside of the bubble. Have you guys ever looked at Biden and what a Mess he is?
  • qwer777, on 10/05/2008, -1/+20*reads title*

    I reject your reality and substitute my own.
    • nextekcarl, on 10/05/2008, -0/+5Maybe Mythbuster's should do a show on Palin? Bust the Myth that she's ready, or close to "Joe Sixpack".
      • fuzzybeard, on 10/05/2008, -0/+3That'd be as likely as them doing a show on how weak the security on RFID's ^really* is.
      • fuzzybeard, on 10/05/2008, -0/+6Hyneman/Savage 2012!
    • magus_melchior, on 10/05/2008, -0/+4Dugg for Adam Savage goodness.
  • AfroPonix, on 10/05/2008, -5/+12This article really summurizes my exact feelings about this vp pick and McCain since it was done. It was so funny on the day of the announcement I was telling everyone i knew she was supremely unqualified for the job and people must've been thinking "god what a sexist". I bet McCain wish's he was a bit less of a sexist right now and never believed that women will vote for a woman because of plumming.

    Maybe he picked her because he knows his luck with pageant winners, he figured if he could just win it will be 8 looooooong years serving with an indoctrinated woman with no 'real' job.

    Its hard to imagine that in McCains twisted mind he wasnt thinking "well if im president, and she's vp..i'm the only one in office higher than her, she probably wants my job....damn straight i'll get laid!"
  • popzero, on 10/05/2008, -12/+4Why all the hate? It's just the vice presidency. It's not like it's hockey surgery or anything. 8-|
  • scottknick, on 10/05/2008, -4/+17Actually, Palin is completely qualified to be president -- a president in the Reagan/George W.Bush mold. That is, some dimwit to do the photo ops while the corporate lobbyists do all the hard work of running the government.
    • ogbar, on 10/05/2008, -4/+2you are so misinformed and are looking at things with blinders on. we can go all the way down the line of democrat presidents that have hammed it up so much more so than republicans. How about when Obama didnt visit the troops that one time cause his camp was informed that there were no cameras there?
  • booyahbitch, on 10/05/2008, -4/+12Dug for freak show Palin!!!
  • LucFerris, on 10/05/2008, -5/+13It's totally ironic how she has more experience than Obama, yet not an ounce of even the basic recipe made up of common sense mixed with scholarly smarts. Having common sense makes the best of the manager of the local Footlocker, but that's just a small part of the job of Vice-President. We need someone who can understand what it means to be forced to shop at Wal-Mart, but who's smart enough to want to find a better alternative. The good ole girls of the country don't want the job ... I nor anyone I know want's the job. What we all want is someone who is just a little better than us. I don't know if it's Joe Biden, but we know it's not Sarah Palin
    -LucFerris
    • cattletracks, on 10/05/2008, -0/+3It's a fallacy that Palin's experience trumps Obama. People need to do their homework on this one and not buy Fox News and WorldNet talking points.

      Let’s put things in perspective: Population of Wasilla when Palin was Mayor: 5,500. Population of entire state of Alaska: 670,000. Population of the city of Detroit, Michigan: 951,000.

      During Palin's tenure as mayor, she was so "popular", there was a recall effort to get her removed. When she took the position, Wasilla was in the black. She left Wasilla with $20 million in long-term debt. Palin has served 18 short months as governor. Her approval rating is not what it seems. 20,000 of all Alaskan citizens are without running water in their homes or sanitation systems. Many don't have telephones. The people contacted in those polls tended to be the wealthier of the bunch.

      Palin's education? A bachelor's degree in journalism, that took her six years to accomplish, attending five different schools to get that under her belt.

      Obama is a graduate of Columbia University and Harvard Law School, where he served as president of the Harvard Law Review. Obama worked as a community organizer and practiced as a civil rights attorney before serving in the Illinois Senate from 1997 to 2004. He taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School from 1992 to 2004. Following an unsuccessful bid for a seat in the U.S. House of Representatives in 2000, he announced his campaign for the U.S. Senate in January 2003. After a primary victory in March 2004, Obama delivered the keynote address at the Democratic National Convention in July 2004. He was elected to the Senate in November 2004 with 70% of the vote.
      As a member of the Democratic minority in the 109th Congress, he helped create legislation to control conventional weapons and to promote greater public accountability in the use of federal funds. He also made official trips to Eastern Europe, the Middle East, and Africa. During the 110th Congress, he helped create legislation regarding lobbying and electoral fraud, climate change, nuclear terrorism, and care for returned U.S. military personnel.
  • cheesegypsy, on 10/05/2008, -3/+20As my wife has pointed out: there are so many capable, smart women in the Republican party who were available for the VP slot if he wanted to choose someone because of their gender, and clearly he chose Palin for not only her gender, but her sex appeal. Palin is consistently polling higher with men than with women because for Republican men she fits the perfect stereotype: smart, but covers it up with a dumb act, and she has a puritanical naughtiness about her that is half sexy/half tease. She's not threatening to men because she acts just dumb enough, something like a Hooters waitress that is working herself through college but would never let on that she's too smart to keep the tips high.
    • yacks, on 10/05/2008, -2/+2Too bad Condi Rice was too much tied to Bush. I think she would have made a great VP pick.. or even a presidential pick.
    • LucFerris, on 10/05/2008, -1/+3Holy *****, you done hit it on the head! It even works on another level because the other party doesn't want to be sexist, so respects her like they would any other woman or man running for office. Yet, back in her party she's throwing hints and winking her way into the hearts and wet dreams of men everywhere. It's a perfect storm . . . a weapon that cannot be battled against. It would be easy to think that McCain picked her just for her energy record and sex appeal.

      Palin said just the right things at just the right times to get her answers across, while earning herself a comfortable tie in that one debate that they'll have. No excuses, though. Palin deserve the right to use her strengths, it's not like Biden doesn't. Biden has used his hideously illusionist form of power and persuasion to make important deals go through for 30 friggin' years.

      How's that for unrealistic control?
    • clankster, on 10/05/2008, -0/+3>smart, but covers it up with a dumb act

      It's not an act.
  • knowit, on 10/05/2008, -3/+12I'm just sick of Palin. She needs to go back to her favor state and take care of her family.
    • ironpirate, on 10/05/2008, -1/+2sexist or bias....
    • cattletracks, on 10/05/2008, -0/+2Favorite state is denial. She's already there...
  • dwhitbeck, on 10/05/2008, -2/+6Just look at all of that collective experience in the house and in the senate. They have managed to totally screw the general population of the U.S. I say that they could replace them all with a bunch of bright teenagers and we would be better off.
  • monofoto59, on 10/05/2008, -4/+12This piece is so concise -- brilliant. The most frightening line: "The problem with Ms. Palin’s candidacy is that John McCain might actually win this election, and then if something terrible happened, the country could be left with little more than an exclamation point as president."

    Sarah Palin doing anything more than keeping an eye on Russia from her front porch is a vastly unthinkable and frightening proposition.
    • BlacklabelSAR, on 10/05/2008, -0/+4"the country could be left with little more than an exclamation point as president."


      I'm starting to think a lot of people here play EVE-Online.
  • badnewshotel, on 10/05/2008, -17/+4In such a serious moment in American history, it ’s hard to believe that someone with Barak Obama's limited skills, experience, and personal credibility could possibly be playing a leadership role.
    • BlacklabelSAR, on 10/05/2008, -1/+4"May I have your attention please! This is the Captain of the Titanic. We've hit an iceberg and are sinking. But don't worry. I think that if we can just hit another iceberg we'll be ok."

      *Reference borrowed from RP.
    • cattletracks, on 10/05/2008, -1/+4Obama is a graduate of Columbia University and Harvard Law School, where he served as president of the Harvard Law Review. Obama practiced as a civil rights attorney before serving in the Illinois Senate from 1997 to 2004. He taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School from 1992 to 2004. He ran for a seat in the U.S. House of Representatives in 2000. He made a successful bid for the U.S. Senate in 2004. As a member of the Democratic minority in the 109th Congress, he helped create legislation to control conventional weapons and to promote greater public accountability in the use of federal funds. He also made official trips to Eastern Europe, the Middle East, and Africa. During the 110th Congress, he helped create legislation regarding lobbying and electoral fraud, climate change, nuclear terrorism, and care for returned U.S. military personnel.
      • voxlisa999, on 10/05/2008, -1/+4He also graduated Magna cum Laude. And...

        According to Charles Krauthammer yesterday- and I quote:"Obama has a first-class intellect and a first-class temperament."

        Krauthammer wrote that after quoting that it was said of FDR that he had a "second-class intellect and a first-class temperament."
      • Nore, on 10/05/2008, -0/+1Just because he was a lawyer and graduated from Columbia University and Harvard Law School doesn't make him qualified for presidency. This isn't a race for who was on the dean's list, this is a race to pick the next person to lead this country. I graduated Columbia as well, maybe I should run for president.
  • icewater, on 10/05/2008, -2/+11Troopergate is in full swing. Can't wait for her to testify and sink herself.
  • Wryly, on 10/05/2008, -2/+11What more can you say about Sarah. She's just not qualified.
  • Ricemanstm, on 10/05/2008, -18/+4Once again, free propaganda from NYT! Need to edit something:

    "This is such a serious moment in American history that it’s hard to believe that someone with Mr. Obama's limited skills could possibly be playing a leadership role."

    A little cut and paste and voila! Now that sentence is FACTUALLY correct.
    • Peekman, on 10/05/2008, -1/+3meh...
    • cherwilco, on 10/05/2008, -0/+10lol, did a google search on Obama's education;

      After graduating high school from Punahou School in Hawaii, Barack Obama attended Occidental College for two years, then got his B.A. from Columbia University. He later got his law degree from Harvard Law School (where he became the Harvard Law Review's first black president), graduating magna cum laude. Obama was also a lecturer of constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School.

      and now palin;

      She received her bachelor's degree in communications-journalism from the University of Idaho and attended the following schools

      * Hawaii Pacific University (Fall 1982),
      * North Idaho College (Spring 1983 & Fall 1983),
      * University of Idaho (Fall 1984 - Spring 1985),
      * Matanuska-Susitna College (Fall 1985) and
      * University of Idaho (Spring 1986, Fall 1986 and Spring 1987 ).

      Before this she graduated from Wasilla High School in Wasilla, Alaska.
      and according to the first link that popped up under a Palin's education google search she switched colleges 6 times all for her ONE degree!
      http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=572821 ...

      limited skills? you are so far wrong that your just lying to get your point across now!
      • yacks, on 10/05/2008, -0/+5Changed schools 6 times? Flip-Flopper!
      • wtjahn, on 10/05/2008, -3/+1A liberal arts degree is a degree in political correctness. And lawyers generally are far down the intellectual food chain. Obama, like most of his career governmental cronies, has never held a real job. Why is it so lost on you people of intellect that Barack Obama compares best to George Bush? They are both likable fellows, they both have a ton of money behind them, neither is particularly bright, and each will preside over a house and senate of their own party. Wasteful spending again will go through the roof; there will just be a different cast of characters. But this time we may tax and spend ourselves into a depression.
      • Ricemanstm, on 10/05/2008, -4/+3My bad, I posted at the end.

        Oh, I'm sorry. I thought we were talking about leadership expereience not education...oh wait..we were speaking about leadership experience. How many years of senatorial experience...none? Oh wait, 143 days. Okay. What else? Oh...he was a community organizer...anything else? Okay. Sarah Palin...Mayor...good...Governor? Of one of the largest states in the union? Would that be the 57th? Oh, the 50th...sorry. How big a budget? 12 billion? Mr. Obama? 300 million? Was that for city government? What? Oh..you managed the finances of your own campaign? Okay.
  • Wartyboskfapped, on 10/05/2008, -3/+11McCain/Palin cannot win. They simply don't have the numbers.

    Thanks, John McCain, for selecting Sarah Palin as your VP. It was a terrible choice and helped destroy your campaign.
  • GuyBlaise, on 10/05/2008, -11/+3John McCain might win the election on November 4th. Then, if something terrible happens to him, Ms. Palin will become the President of the United States of America. America watch out... As the Berber of Morocco say, "Obedience to a woman leads to hell."
    http://guyblaise.com/
  • jperson, on 10/05/2008, -1/+20This is why I'm voting Obama even though I was a registered Republican and voted for Bush twice. I finally learned that party affiliation doesn't f*cking matter. What matters is whether somebody with integrity and accountability can get the job done.
    • HappyProgrammer, on 10/05/2008, -0/+5I dont meant to question your judgment, but I am honestly curious as to what would make an intelligent person vote for W in 2004?
      • solid12345, on 10/05/2008, -3/+2What would make an intelligent person vote for Kerry? He pimped out his military service after calling our troops baby killers 30 years ago and when he was called on it, instead of fighting back he cowered in the corner and asked the ads to be pulled because they were "not fair"

        Kerry was a tool and that is why he lost.
    • Nore, on 10/05/2008, -1/+1More "I'm republican, I've voted republican my whole life, blah blah blah, but I'm voting for Obama!!" ***** propaganda on Digg. Please.
  • wtjahn, on 10/05/2008, -11/+1Obama/Pelosi/Reid will be Bush/Frist/Hastert in spades. Republicans squandered enough of our money when they controlled both houses of Congress and the presidency; the Dems will be worse. This condescension of Palin plays well at Northeast Liberal cocktail parties, but look at all the smart people (Frank, Dodd, Raines, etc- not the ones your readers want to hear about) who got us into this mess.
  • RipleyIsDead, on 10/05/2008, -0/+18Every rational person in this country should agree unreservedly with everything in this article, and still McCain/Palin have a very good chance of winning this election.

    WHAT THE ***** IS WRONG WITH THE PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY???
    • YEEK, on 10/05/2008, -0/+11Easy... statistically speaking, half the population of the country is dumber then the other half.
      • RipleyIsDead, on 10/05/2008, -0/+9Sorry, sometimes my blood starts to boil and I have to let off some steam...

        I'm fine now, really :)
  • whit4brains, on 10/05/2008, -1/+16Hey Sarah -

    I can see the end of your political career from my house!
    • fiatjustitia, on 10/05/2008, -1/+3She took a huge risk by accepting the VP nomination, and it's very likely that the career she had before will be done for because of it.

      How much land does a man (woman, in this case) need?
    • Mankrik, on 10/05/2008, -0/+2This has to be the single best one-liner on Sarah Palin ever.
  • ptemple, on 10/05/2008, -14/+3That is one of the lamest most unintelligent articles I have read for a while. "Ms. Palin referred earnestly, if loosely, to a quote from Ronald Reagan... What Ms. Palin didn’t say was that the menace to freedom that Reagan was talking about was Medicare... Does Ms. Palin agree with that Looney Tunes notion?". Can Mr Herbert please point out where Sarah Palin pointed out to the nation that the greatest threat to American freedom is Medicare? It's made up claptrap.

    Mr Herbert says, "After Ms. Palin had woven one of her particularly impenetrable linguistic webs, Joe Biden turned to the debate’s moderator, Gwen Ifill, and said: “Gwen, I don’t know where to start.”"

    What Sarah Palin said to merit this response was, "I am because he's got a good health care plan that is detailed. And I want to give you a couple details on that. He's proposing a $5,000 tax credit for families so that they can get out there and they can purchase their own health care coverage. That's a smart thing to do. That's budget neutral. That doesn't cost the government anything as opposed to Barack Obama's plan to mandate health care coverage and have universal government run program and unless you're pleased with the way the federal government has been running anything lately, I don't think that it's going to be real pleasing for Americans to consider health care being taken over by the feds. But a $5,000 health care credit through our income tax that's budget neutral. That's going to help. And he also wants to erase those artificial lines between states so that through competition, we can cross state lines and if there's a better plan offered somewhere else, we would be able to purchase that. So affordability and accessibility will be the keys there with that $5,000 tax credit also being offered."

    From this 'impenetrable linguistic web' I gather that:
    * there will be a $5,000 tax credit for families to purchase their own health care coverage
    * she believes it won't cost the government any money
    * she is opposed to the Feds expanding their powers over health care and does not think they have done very well to date
    * she wants to enable the public to be able to shop between different states to get a better deal on healthcare, helping eliminate an artificial restraint on competetiveness.

    Then after Mr Herbert rambles on about a list of problems that are nothing to do with Sarah Palin, he says, "How’s that for perspective? The credit markets are frozen. Our top general in Afghanistan is dialing 911. Americans are losing jobs by the scores of thousands. And Sarah Palin is making sure we know that the chant is “drill, baby, drill!” not “drill, drill, drill.”"

    No mention that Biden cracked a lame joke about the $5,000 tax credit for health care being the "Ultimate Bridge to Nowhere". So was desperately trying to fit in somewhere that prepared line more important than the top general dialling 911 in Afghanistan, and Americans losing jobs by scores of thousands?

    It really was a load of blather. It lacked context, syntax, and the proximity of his answers to questions have no meaning.

    Sarah Palin may not be qualified to be President, but Mr Herbert is certainly not qualified to be taken seriously as a journalist.

    Phillip.
    • VogonPoet, on 10/05/2008, -1/+4Your reading comprehension sucks. The Reagan quote Palin used was Reagan referring to medicare. Mr. Herbert makes that clear in the article you can't understand.
  • SSAG, on 10/05/2008, -10/+1I notice these same libs don't talk about comparing qualifications when it comes to the PRESIDENTIAL roll.
    • clankster, on 10/05/2008, -0/+6Sure we do. Obama is intelligent and principalled and McCain is a bombastic lunatic.
      • SSAG, on 10/05/2008, -2/+1And yet you've completely skipped over the qualifications part, which proves my point.
      • clankster, on 10/06/2008, -0/+2Intelligence *is* a qualification for the presidency, as is being principalled. Do you really not see that?
  • Ricemanstm, on 10/05/2008, -9/+2Oh, I'm sorry. I thought we were talking about leadership expereience not education...oh wait..we were speaking about leadership experience. How many years of senatorial experience...none? Oh wait, 143 days. Okay. What else? Oh...he was a community organizer...anything else? Okay. Sarah Palin...Mayor...good...Governor? Of one of the largest states in the union? Would that be the 57th? Oh, the 50th...sorry. How big a budget? 12 billion? Mr. Obama? 300 million? Was that for city government? What? Oh..you managed the finances of your own campaign? Okay.
    • reconsldr74d, on 10/05/2008, -0/+4Large and empty state. The city I live in has bigger population than Alaska. If you really want to talk about leadership experience why don't you look at what she did as a leader. You know, like manage to drive a city of less then 7,000 people into 20 million in debt. That is some kind of talent, but not the kind anybody needs.
    • cattletracks, on 10/05/2008, -0/+2Let’s put things in perspective: Population of Wasilla when Palin was Mayor: 5,500. Population of entire state of Alaska: 670,000. Population of the city of Detroit, Michigan: 951,000.

      During Palin's tenure as mayor, she was so "popular", there was a recall effort to get her removed. When she took the position, Wasilla was in the black. She left Wasilla with $20 million in long-term debt. Palin has served 18 short months as governor. Her approval rating is not what it seems. 20,000 of all Alaskan citizens are without running water in their homes or sanitation systems. Many don't have telephones. The people contacted in those poles tended to be the wealthier of the bunch. There are ongoing investigations and lawsuits pending against this woman, to which the Republican party has tried to squelch.

      Palin's education? A bachelor's degree in journalism, that took her six years to accomplish, attending five different schools to get that under her belt.

      Obama is a graduate of Columbia University and Harvard Law School, where he served as president of the Harvard Law Review. Obama worked as a community organizer and practiced as a civil rights attorney before serving in the Illinois Senate from 1997 to 2004. He taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School from 1992 to 2004. Following an unsuccessful bid for a seat in the U.S. House of Representatives in 2000, he announced his campaign for the U.S. Senate in January 2003. After a primary victory in March 2004, Obama delivered the keynote address at the Democratic National Convention in July 2004. He was elected to the Senate in November 2004 with 70% of the vote.
      As a member of the Democratic minority in the 109th Congress, he helped create legislation to control conventional weapons and to promote greater public accountability in the use of federal funds. He also made official trips to Eastern Europe, the Middle East, and Africa. During the 110th Congress, he helped create legislation regarding lobbying and electoral fraud, climate change, nuclear terrorism, and care for returned U.S. military personnel.
  • cptcaucasian, on 10/05/2008, -0/+5Palin is absolutely ready to become a puppet president. I don't think she cares much about making important decisions or bettering the US etc. She just wants the fame and attention, and her name in the history books, perhaps as the Hindenburg of the 21st century. I hope a jet plane engine falls from the sky onto her head.
  • onthetrail, on 10/05/2008, -9/+2hi you all !
    Sounds like a definite spin going on If you don't want to really ,address the issues for voting ,I'm really
    worried,The attacking of Sarah. has been going on since she was brought out by McCain,
    What about Joe Bidden ?He is no Einstein either,Sarah has shown what needs to be done in this country,she is intuitive,
    We have had a rough time,with the crisis in wall street ,Fannie may ,Freddie Mac, and making a bad decision will not help,I see people saying Go Obama!To You really support his policies? Know his ties?,Does he care about keeping America strong?And not giving our freedoms away!
    You might feel stupid if you vote for him and he wants to socialize this country,We will not be allowed our freedoms,
    He will indoctrinate new administration,with new rules,Is not Obama already trying to harass freedoms of dress,speech,and indoctrinate with his thugs,Open your eyes we need to buck up and stand for our freedom of democracy!
    • fuzzybeard, on 10/05/2008, -0/+3Sarah Palin! Who let you near a computer?!!
    • kindasure, on 10/05/2008, -0/+2"He will indoctrinate new administration,with new rules"

      Um... isn't our country in a pickle right now? Wouldn't you say it's now time for new rules? More of the same, breeds more of the same problems.
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