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blog.washingtonpost.com — The campaign, citing figures from Duane Bray, battalion chief of Portland Fire & Rescue, estimated that 75,000 people are watching him speak.

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  • exgop, on 05/19/2008, -366/+46I'm really beginning to think this ***** is the Antichrist. How else can so many people be so stupid as to listen to this guy for 30 minutes and have him not say a thing.
    • Argentian, on 05/19/2008, -13/+11back atcha, ok.
    • sourceholder, on 05/19/2008, -51/+14Reported.
      • 11oops, on 05/19/2008, -4/+31For what?
        • TJATL, on 05/19/2008, -25/+11For being Anti-Obama...you didn't know that was an option?
      • romistrub, on 05/19/2008, -10/+3"You cannot digg a comment twice."

        ***** you, Digg. Get your ***** straight.
      • Digger1218, on 05/19/2008, -2/+9Yeah, i'm sure the FBI will get right on it you giant douche
      • saxreturns, on 05/19/2008, -0/+2Not a supporter of the First Amendment, then?
    • romistrub, on 05/19/2008, -8/+17The scary thing is that I can see other religious morons eating up that line like cotton candy. Dandy.
    • eatkitten, on 05/19/2008, -9/+83There should be a Digg Fail of the Day. A middle finger button next to the thumbs down perhaps? I'd nominate this... although checking exgop's comment history reveals a lot of gems:

      "The Muslim fighters are cowards they hide behind children when they fight. By the way they have had every opportunity to kick our ass and they can't. SO ***** YOU"

      "The guy is a Socialist. Socialism has never worked. This country is *****. Im glad Im old. I will get free health care you young people will pay high taxes. Ya'll are soooooooooooooo stupid."

      "I really don't care what Muslims think. Its nothing more than a cult of death"
      • senatorpjt, on 05/20/2008, -0/+4You can use my avatar if you want.
    • jbenson2, on 05/19/2008, -23/+16The O-man = The Omen
      Starring Barack Damien Obama
      • argaen21, on 05/19/2008, -0/+2Another retarded post, starring some fat, dumb redneck, jbenson2.
    • forgiste, on 05/19/2008, -20/+8Dude, everyone knows that the true devil is the one that's making you slave away for a fraction of what you're worth. When you sell your life to a company, you've sold your soul. If you do what you know is wrong, but you keep doing it for money or whatever, that is sin. How could Obama be the antichrist? The Pope is already the Anti-christ.
      • staeiou, on 05/19/2008, -1/+21The answer to bigotry is not more bigotry.
      • thepretext, on 05/19/2008, -0/+1STICK IT TO THE ***** MAN. STICK IT RIGHT TO HIM. Then go back to your job.
    • aenima987, on 05/19/2008, -5/+21Leave plz
      • iticu, on 05/19/2008, -8/+6Those damn people with seperate opinions!
        To right we should ignore them and not give any reasons to why they're wrong.
        Hell, lets even remove their SOCIAL right to say ***** we don't agree with!
        • MelroseMan, on 05/19/2008, -0/+5He's saying Obama is the anti-christ and you don't see anything wrong with that? The guy didn't even give a reason how he's right why should aenima987?? No evidence, speech quotes, or background of real facts are given. Hell, his sentence doesn't even make sense, "How else can so many people be so stupid as to listen to this guy for 30 minutes and have him not say a thing."
        • pineutrino, on 05/20/2008, -0/+2MelroseMan, it's not that people are saying that nothing's wrong with what exgop is saying, of course that's a horrible thing to say, it's the idea that we have the right to kick out people who say such things. Just because what they say is horrible doesn't give us that right.

          Not that I wouldn't turn a blind eye to having such people pelted with rancid watermelons. But still.
    • internetcoward, on 05/19/2008, -6/+11Thanks for setting the bar so high for my 'stupidest thing I read all week'. I have 5 more days, but I am sure you'll still win.
    • vade79, on 05/19/2008, -4/+16A bunch of people like this guy, I better not like him just because others do. It's just sound logic.
    • dinot, on 05/19/2008, -8/+21How can YOU be so stupid and listen to him for 30 minutes and not hear anything?
      • makeitloud, on 05/19/2008, -0/+4Lots of practice during the last 8 years.
    • jmantra, on 05/19/2008, -12/+1http://www.jmantra.com/duggdown.wav
    • stonewaljacksn, on 05/19/2008, -19/+12best, comment, ever. WOOOOO hitler had crazy amounts of people listening to him too! let's support that ***** wooooooooooo!!!!!

      OUR COUNTRY IS GOIN DOWN THE DRAIN! HOPE! CHANGE! REBIRTH! BLIND SUPPORT!!=the formula for fascism. who would've thought that it would be coming from the left?
      strange, scary things.
      • Argentian, on 05/19/2008, -5/+7Fascism has been of and from the Left. Mussolini was a Leftist, Hitler and Stalin the same. There may be a misconception of people if they equate the Right with Fascism.
        • stonewaljacksn, on 05/19/2008, -1/+6Exactly! because people here think "fascism=bad, and bad=conservative". They'd never stop and think to do some reflecting on themselves and on the past mistakes of history.
          Dangerous movements always start with blind support of people who call for "change and more power to the common man".
        • MelroseMan, on 05/19/2008, -2/+1You're a bunch of wack jobs. I would retort but It's not worth it.
    • hydehk, on 05/19/2008, -8/+9did u say he is an Antichrist??
      wow, one more reason to vote for this guy
      • stonewaljacksn, on 05/19/2008, -8/+3YES EXACTLY! I WANT TO VOTE FOR THE ANTICHRIST BECAUSE I LOVE UNBRIDLED MATERIALISM AND OUR CURRENT CONSUMER CULTURE.
        love it. antichrist for president.
    • MelroseMan, on 05/19/2008, -1/+10What the *****? 29 people dugg you up?
    • the2989, on 05/19/2008, -2/+4there is no antichrist
    • jabberwolf, on 05/19/2008, -4/+2BECAUSE IDIOTS FOLLOW IDIOTS!
      He cant even answer a simple question of What will he talk to Iran about?!
      He complained about everything but still couldn't answer!

    • Gemfinder, on 05/20/2008, -0/+1Gawd-damn. -312 Diggs, this has gotta be a new daily record...
      Epic FAIL.
    • BadgerDigger, on 09/04/2008, -1/+1I'm not for Obama, but this guy is an idiot. I think every knows that Hillary is the anti-Christ.
  • Iamien, on 05/19/2008, -21/+203Presidential Inauguration brings many many more. Wait until that day.
    • exgop, on 05/19/2008, -82/+15The guy is a Socialist. Socialism has never worked. This country is *****. Im glad Im old. I will get free health care you young people will pay high taxes. Ya'll are soooooooooooooo stupid.
      • kelalo, on 05/19/2008, -12/+27You're an idiot.

        • TJATL, on 05/19/2008, -20/+7He's an idiot? No, anyone backing a socialist candidate or ideas are idiots. When you take your freedoms and responsibility and give that control over to government, you have failed in life. You are weak and nothing more than a tax revenue and pawn for the party. Obama, one step closer to red socialism.
        • BattleScars, on 05/19/2008, -2/+7@ TJATL. I think you need to look up the definition of socialism, because, if anything, you just stated the archetypal concept of far right politics.
      • mabs0, on 05/19/2008, -15/+40Socialism has never worked? Get some education. You only have to look across the border to Canada or the other side of the Atlantic to the UK to see how socialism doesn't (sic) work.

        Anyway, to put your mind at rest, no one in the US is a socialist. Trust me, not even the socialist parties, wherever they are, are socialists around here. To make it clear for you, Obama can't be a socialist because the specie doesn't exist around here.
        • p0s3r, on 05/19/2008, -7/+20I don't think you know what (sic) means.
        • TJATL, on 05/19/2008, -21/+4You think Canada's socialist healthcare system works? Kind of odd how they come over the border in flocks to get a chance to actually SEE a doctor, since the waiting list in their home country is ridiculous. And yes, Obama and most other democrats are socialists. Any law/project that takes money out of my pocket just to give it to someone else is socialist. You can not rob a person at gun point, and give that money to someone else without going to jail right? Well the government can. Socialist. Universal healthcare is socialist. The democrats agenda is about enabling the lower end of the tax bracket, actually making them stay poor, in order to win votes. The new deal and other socialist programs are how old and democrats haven't fixed a damn thing. Quit being a sheep to one party.
        • Lyk4n, on 05/19/2008, -1/+4LOL.. TJATL is crazy..
        • birdieb23, on 05/19/2008, -1/+2Sorry that does not make the UK socialist. We have nationalized practically everything else!
      • Ecowarrior, on 05/19/2008, -5/+34Speaking as a socialist. Barack Obama is no socialist. There are no socialists in mainstream American politics.

        And the hyperbole just makes you look stupid.
        • TJATL, on 05/19/2008, -12/+5You can say he isn't all you want, but that doesn't change the fact he is.

          socialism |ˈsō sh əˌlizəm|
          noun
          a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
          • policy or practice based on this theory.
          • (in Marxist theory) a transitional social state between the overthrow of capitalism and the realization of communism.

          noun
          a well-known socialist left-winger, leftist, progressive, progressivist; radical, revolutionary; communist, Marxist; informal lefty, red. antonym conservative.

          Socialism refers to the goal of a socio-economic system in which property and the distribution of wealth are subject to control by the community.[1] This control may be either direct—exercised through popular collectives such as workers' councils—or indirect—exercised on behalf of the people by the state
        • scubasteve377, on 05/20/2008, -0/+1So yeah, digg is pretty much ***** when someone is dugg way the hell down for posting a definition. I swear to god this place is getting dumber and dumber.
      • phrstbrn, on 05/19/2008, -5/+5ya and hes black to so he wont get elected amirite?
        /sarcasm
        • LegalizeGanja, on 05/19/2008, -6/+8How do you think the housing crisis happened. Lack of socialist policies that allows abusive policies to be adopted by the oversized banks.
        • Monk22, on 05/19/2008, -0/+4ganja i was under the impression that people who are to stupid/irresponsible to realize the 12% interest on a home loan is not affordable.
      • normalkid0615, on 05/19/2008, -3/+2look at china, it owns majority in many us companies. united states of china!
      • brstilson, on 05/19/2008, -5/+21Manipulative language and labeling. Labeling someone a "socialist" puts images of Hitler and Stalin in peoples' heads (even though Hitler and Stalin were opposed to each other in almost all ideological ways except authoritarianism), and therefore automatically makes the "socialist" wrong (because everything Hitler and Stalin did was wrong, right?), regardless of what he's saying.

        When you label Obama a socialist, you don't have to think about the issues. You don't have to think about the fact that every democracy needs at least a little bit of socialism to function. Things like the Interstate Highway System, the strategic petroleum reserve, the public library, the police, the fire department, the FBI, and the post office are all socialist programs on one governmental level or another. To have a purely capitalist "you're on your own" government would spell disaster.
        • TJATL, on 05/19/2008, -11/+5Every democracy does not need a redistribution of wealth. Every democracy needs a sense of personal responsibility which is something the democrats campaign against.
      • Brownds, on 05/19/2008, -3/+8Well our current system is broke as hell. It's sad when US citizens have to go to Canada or Mexico for health care.. And this is from the mouth of a conservative
        • Monk22, on 05/19/2008, -1/+3please find me one case of someone going to ***** mexico for healthcare.
        • anstice85, on 05/19/2008, -2/+1Mexico has very cheap prescriptions. All you need is a faked doctor's note. I know many, many people who have went there for them.
        • PolishLogic, on 05/19/2008, -1/+2@anstice85

          You know why they're so cheap in Mexico? No quality control. With out that, you have no idea what you're getting.
        • scubasteve377, on 05/20/2008, -1/+1The only thing wrong with our current health care system is the prices, which are so ridiculously high because of the socialist medicine we already have (the over a trillion dollars that are spent on health care: Medicare, Medicaid, SCHIP, etc. annually). See, programs like Medicare and Medicaid represent a blank check to medical providers (since the government doesn't care how much of other people's money they spend, go figure), so providers have a built-in economic incentive to raise prices to the point that people have to turn to the government to subsidize their health care. So what we have essentially done is made high prices, good business in medicine. No wonder we have so many without health care.

          In a free market system, the opposite would be true. Doctors and hospitals, in order to turn a profit, would be forced to reduce prices to meet the financial limitations and demands of their consumers. If you don't believe me, just compare the price of elective medical procedures, like plastic surgery and laser eye surgery, with similarly complicated and/or invasive procedures considered essential and covered by Medicare. The former, which is paid by the consumer, usually completely out of his or her own pocket, has become increasingly affordable, while the price for the latter, which is paid for by the government, continue to rise at twice the rate of inflation. The only real difference is where the money is coming from.

          This same kind of price inflation occurs in every sector of the economy that is heavily subsidized by the government (like education, for example) and it always leads to the same result: the poor and middle class become crippled and dependent on the government (and therefore, are subject to endless governmental controls), and the corporate interests favored by government make a killing. This is just one of the many reasons that socialism is a idiotic and failed ideology. In order for one to see this, though, one must be able to examine these issues rationally through the scope sound economics and ignore the incessant emotional nonsense being spewed from populist ideologues from both the left and the right (that definitely includes Mr. Obama, by the way).

          I would absolutely love it if one of the many socialists who seem to be present here tonight would be able to manage a logical and coherent response, free of over-emotional, populist drivel, and prove me wrong using sound economic reasoning, but I've played this game enough to know that economics confuse socialists, so socialists will just digg down. Enjoy your ignorance.
        • brstilson, on 05/20/2008, -1/+2@scubasteve377

          What you say makes sense, but how come every other nation with "socialist" health care systems do not have this problem?
        • Monk22, on 05/20/2008, -1/+2because they dont do 90% of the medical research in the world.
      • javip, on 05/19/2008, -0/+1i'm glad you're old too.. you'll be dead soon :D
      • Pillage, on 05/19/2008, -0/+1Dude, would a socialist have ***** band named The Decembrists play at his rally? I think not.....
        • brstilson, on 05/20/2008, -0/+1What does that have to do with anything?
        • Pillage, on 05/20/2008, -0/+1they take their name from the decembrist revolt which lead to a communist Russia. It was an Ironic statement.
      • KingPsyz, on 05/20/2008, -0/+2Right so he's a socialist and yet you're bragging about living off of the government's dime...
    • Brownds, on 05/19/2008, -17/+26No kidding I went to the 2004 in Inauguration. It's amazing how many people lined up to see what it looks like to give the reins of America over to a baboon
    • JensenSteve, on 05/19/2008, -36/+10Have fun at McCains inauguration. There is no way the NWO backed elitist power circles will allow a democrat to have the throne of the Bush regime, and knowing there are proven facts that show Bush tampered with votes, Obama does not stand a chance. It's time we wake up, and take this country back before it's too late.
      • gsxrjason, on 05/19/2008, -0/+11If McCain is elected FTW, I'm moving to Canada or New Zealand or something.
        • PolishLogic, on 05/19/2008, -0/+3Promise to write.

          They always say they will, but never do.
        • Pillage, on 05/19/2008, -0/+1gsxrjason you have been added to "The List"
        • iconoclast7, on 05/20/2008, -0/+1Don't you get it? IF YOU DIE IN CANADA (or New Zealand or something), YOU DIE IN REAL LIFE!
      • Brownds, on 05/19/2008, -4/+3Ok no more Kool-Aid for this guy.
      • Tomchei, on 05/19/2008, -0/+2Our hope is that Obama says he will support the NWO rhetoric before election then turn coat on them.
      • Lyk4n, on 05/19/2008, -0/+5Wow.. NWO huh? Did you forget your meds this morning?
      • SEANWOOKIE, on 05/19/2008, -0/+1Pat Robertson is that you?
    • jer2eydevil88, on 05/19/2008, -1/+12Now that you mention it I would actually like to make the trek to D.C. to go see him be inaugurated. It would be neat to be a part of that moment in history when America got back on track.
    • insomniac8400, on 05/19/2008, -5/+7Maybe we will see a real million man march, and not one of those half a million marches the racist people put on.
    • Soulbow2, on 05/19/2008, -1/+2I'm going to the 2009 Inauguration!
    • sjl127, on 05/20/2008, -2/+2Eerily similar going back to Nazi Germany. He is not a messiah.
    • mostfynest, on 05/20/2008, -1/+0INVESTIGATE, IMPEACH, ARREST, CONVICT, EXECUTE BUSH. Spread the word pls ppl!!
  • cheeseysynapse, on 05/19/2008, -115/+14Its hard to separate church and state when the state is your church..............and nobody preaches it like Obama. This guy could nuke Iran and the U.N. would put up a statue of him in Tehran. As Reagan said.............You can accomplish much if you don't care who gets the credit. Here's one republican that hopes he won't pull a Jimmy Carter.
    • kaelyiesta, on 05/19/2008, -0/+9What?
      • PolishLogic, on 05/20/2008, -0/+1Read up on Carter, talked a great game, accomplished jack *****.
  • kelalo, on 05/19/2008, -22/+292Did anyone see some of the comments on WP?

    "Al Sharpton for VP
    Farrakhan for Secretary of State
    Wright for Mentorship on all state side affairs.

    Yeah GOOOOO OBAMA, I want Farrakhan, Sharpton and Wright!!! gimme some chicken" - Anonymous

    Are these people out of their minds? This no-holds-barred douchewankery is exactly what I loathe about these barely-literate racist asshats... Seriously, WTF? Is it the fact that I'm a New Englander that I'm in such disbelief that such first-class idiots actually exist?
    • cheeseysynapse, on 05/19/2008, -76/+8get over yourself. is this your first day on the internet?
      • kelalo, on 05/19/2008, -1/+29No, but apparently my first day looking at WP comments.

        All right, my comment may have been a little over the top.
        • bwa236, on 05/19/2008, -0/+2what's behind it?
        • foofighter828, on 05/19/2008, -0/+2Do what my dad says to do in this situation: reacharound and find out.
    • aliengoods, on 05/19/2008, -6/+93Having grown up in Wisconsin, I thought I'd met some rednecks. Then I visited states like Alabama. How the majority of people in that state can be so moronic I'll never know.
      • MJDub, on 05/19/2008, -1/+33It sucks being in the miniscule enlightened minority here in Alabama. I suppose it's because I'm at college, an oasis in a desert of idiocy.
      • republicker, on 05/19/2008, -3/+3Just remember those morons hillbillies won this country fro the most powerful army in the world. Dumbass voters is the reason the electoral college exists. You dont think the elites would let America's peons decide the elections, do you?
      • MsGo, on 05/19/2008, -0/+6Isn't obvious from their fear of other races?
        Inbreeding to avoid race mixing.
      • aadyss, on 05/20/2008, -2/+0Well aliengoods. Ain't you special.
      • dannydawg5, on 05/20/2008, -0/+0I am an Alabamian. I voted for Obama on Feb 5, and I reminded my friend it was Feb 5, and he also voted Obama.


        But yes, you would be surprised. Go to a few Baptist churches around here. It'll open your eyes on just how bad things can get.

    • Haohmaru, on 05/19/2008, -1/+32As a New Englander myself, I've observed that racism is alive and well here. It's only taboo to reveal it.
      For instance, my next door neighbor, a special education teacher no less, was irate that I was adding onto my house as he was afraid the "orientals" would move in if we moved away. His exact words, I kid you not.
      • publiclurker, on 05/19/2008, -3/+30Trust me, outside of New England, people like him do not use words a complicated and elite as "Orientals"
        • cerejota, on 05/19/2008, -0/+54Thats the point publiclurker. Chinks in the south, orientals in the north, same ***** racism.
        • normalkid0615, on 05/19/2008, -10/+3hey watch that
      • funkytaco, on 05/19/2008, -1/+10In one county near here in Atlanta, they're proposing a "car-in-driveway" limit. They say it's not to run off illegals, but I don't buy it.
        • GeekXian, on 05/19/2008, -0/+19It would run off white rednecks out where I live so I buy it. I only wish we'd get a 'no cars parked on lawn' law passed.
        • oswell, on 05/19/2008, -5/+4Waaayyy off topic, but you want laws limiting how many cars people have in their yard? A law?

          How does the number of cars in a driveway/yard infringe on your rights? Nanny state.
        • anstice85, on 05/19/2008, -1/+1'Cause they're ugly.
        • LeeSoong, on 05/19/2008, -0/+1As long as they don't place a limit
          on the 'Number of Rifles in Gun Rack'
          on people's 4x4 trucks . . .
      • jwelchtex, on 05/19/2008, -1/+10The Dude: Walter, the chinaman who peed on my rug, I can't go give him a bill, so what the ***** are you talking about?
        Walter Sobchak: What the ***** are you talking about? The chinaman is not the issue here, Dude. I'm talking about drawing a line in the sand, Dude. Across this line, you DO NOT... Also, Dude, chinaman is not the preferred nomenclature. Asian-American, please.
        The Dude: Walter, this isn't a guy who built the railroads here. This is a guy...
        Walter Sobchak: What the ***** are you...?
        The Dude: Walter, he peed on my rug!
        Donny: He peed on the Dude's rug.
        Walter Sobchak: Donny you're out of your element! Dude, the Chinaman is not the issue here!
      • aadyss, on 05/20/2008, -0/+1You people are obsessed with race. Nuthin' else important.
    • prolix21, on 05/19/2008, -2/+57friday on my drive home i was harassed at a stoplight by a couple rednecks in a firebird from kentucky b/c i had an obama sticker on my car. so yes, this kind of insanity and ignorance is alive and well in the US.
      • Arch83, on 05/19/2008, -2/+32As a farm-raised Kentucky college graduate now living in the city, I have been in contact with many walks of life from many parts of my beloved state. Yes, these closed-minded people exist here too, and no, you will not be any more successful in erasing their stereotypes than I have been. My family and I, along with most of my friends and plenty of my former classmates, are planning to vote Obama tomorrow... even if we're the minority.

        I feel responsible for speaking up on the behalf of the good, enlightened, intelligent people in my commonwealth. Look for us in the Obama percentage tomorrow night.
        • Michael9636, on 08/04/2008, -0/+12What a refreshing thing to read. From the MSM, I was beginning to think Kentucky was a clone of West Virginia.
      • PabloMac, on 05/19/2008, -14/+4Yes, putting an Obama sticker on your car is definitely insanity and ignorance.
      • skteoievtehr, on 05/19/2008, -1/+5That's ridiculous. If education were improved in this country, we wouldn't have so many bigots and racists. The education system needs a MAJOR boost.
        • Monk22, on 05/19/2008, -1/+4if you want to learn the information is there. we spend more per student than anywhere on earth almost. the kids have to want to learn, which leads back to the parents.
        • Firgof, on 05/19/2008, -1/+4That is a misconception. We spend second to the most per student anywhere on the planet, yes. But look at the information we learn. According to the 2003 UNICEF survey, where our ranking has not changed since 2003, we are 18 out of 24 on the rankings. The 2003 TIMSS survey reflects and bolsters this ranking and shows the beginnings of a worrysome downward trend. Finland, Australia, Belgium, Austria, Hungary, Netherlands and the United Kingdom all are above us in rank, and the top three slots go to Singapore, Japan, and South Korea. All of the data gathered so far supports and upholds all the above very neatly and tightly. There is no question here but the one: "Why do we allow it to persist?" To this question, I theorize: We misconceive that money spent is knowledge gained and are ignorant to the realities around us.

          This is unacceptable. We -invented- mass education. Before the United States, public universal mass education was only a theory and concept. Our teachers spend the most time with students in the classroom than anywhere else in the world, -by tens of hours-, and yet have one of the lowest salaries for teachers. We spend an incredible amount of resources to guarantee that knowledge is given, but in reality no knowledge is being administered.

          I theorize that the failure of the US Education system has largely to do with only 10% of public schools being given funding, and the qualifier for those 10% being 'scores'. Do not confuse this 'testable knowledge' with real knowledge. Compared to many other industrialized socities, the United States' education system is utterly self-destructive. Our students are not allowed to co-op or intern as part of their courses, so experience upon entering a field is limited to learned information only. Beyond that, there is no unified curriculum, so many students, due to moving around, have to re-learn information according to the district in which they live.

          Our education system's failure has little to do with the parents. If anything at all, we lack parents spending time with their children to study information and ensure that it is learned. But it isn't as if those parents have the time anyway. It isn't as if the poverty line -only accounts for food- or some such thing. It doesn't have anything to do with our now failing economy. It has nothing to do with rising gas prices, thus the necessity of more hours worked or more jobs taken.

          This is just a ridiculously lucky series of coincidental events. Pay no mind; the evidence is all about you, waiting to be digested, just as the books were present in your schooling.
        • Monk22, on 05/20/2008, -0/+1"If anything at all, we lack parents spending time with their children to study information and ensure that it is learned."

          i agree with alot of your point. but that statment above is the key. if they dont have time. you have to make time. if not, you shouldnt have had kids. the schools can do only so much. i was up to 2nd or 3rd grade stuff when i entered kindergarten because my parents spent the time to teach me before i even hit school. like i said the knowledge is there. its a lack of motivation imo.
    • Th0rus, on 05/19/2008, -3/+45I was working over the weekend and was asked to go get carts outside in the parking lot( I work at target) and I saw a lady get out of a car and she had a Obama Sticker so I asked where she got it because I wanted one and I didn't know if there was a Obama station in the area. She told me that if I did get one to be careful because guys in trucks come up and ride her ass and turn on their brights and attempt to run her off the road. It made me ashamed to live in this country but at the same time made me proud because there are people like Obama that exist and are out there proving so many people wrong and has the courage to run and change things. All it takes is a idea it doesnt matter what color skin you have and people who see other wise will soon wake up when Barrack Obama is the next president of the United States this November.
      • PabloMac, on 05/19/2008, -26/+3"It made me ashamed to live in this country..."
        Then Obama is the right candidate for you. Say hi to Michelle.
        • Th0rus, on 05/19/2008, -0/+7I really don't blame her for her remark she made previously in the year. How can you feel apart of a country when a large percentage of the people living here are against you?
      • MrVictor, on 05/19/2008, -2/+10Buy a gun and protect yourself. Rednecks only understand one thing: violence.
      • mwrl, on 05/19/2008, -11/+1Liberals believe the same thing.
    • zoom1928, on 05/19/2008, -2/+2Token appears to be invalid
    • sylvok, on 05/19/2008, -2/+2I could have been someone from a *Chan
    • jedsmith, on 05/19/2008, -0/+5They're getting trolled pretty hard, it's just a question of who's trolling them. I guarantee you all of them are doing it on purpose. YHBT.
    • mistergoomba, on 05/19/2008, -1/+2i live in california, so i there's no disbelief here
    • DuffyDirect, on 05/19/2008, -4/+3LOL are you naive enough to think New England is a bastion of enlightened non-racists? Our whale watching captain was going on about ***** and jews and patty (Irish cuss) like no tomorrow when I went out there.
    • mrfreeziexp, on 05/19/2008, -1/+4It's the internet.. Are you new here?
    • Gemfinder, on 05/19/2008, -1/+1"Is it the fact that I'm a New Englander that I'm in such disbelief that such first-class idiots actually exist?"
      No it's not. This Cascadian's head was spinning before she got through one-tenth of the drivel. This much piss-'n-***** in one place is straight-up surreal.
      Look on the bright side: We know where all the loonies and wingnuts in the country are — they're reading the Washington Post blog.
    • STPZ, on 05/19/2008, -2/+2Gotta love the New England, not like that ol' England ruled by a monar...crap

      **go celtics**
    • mrASSMAN, on 05/19/2008, -0/+3Guess you haven't been reading the thousands of comments her supporters make all over the web.. this one is comparatively tame. I always just have to shake my head and try to comprehend how so many people can be so unbelievably moronic. Quite depressing.
    • mckrub, on 05/19/2008, -4/+0Hillary and McCain supporters, with or without the blessing of their candidate, would do well to create an internal strife among the majority rally. if you can make a Senator Obama supporter think that he has just joined a crowd of wing nuts, or play on just about any of his personal insecurities (i.e. make him think HE is the racist one, make him think he's voting out of fear, call him a sheep, etc.) he may break away from the crowd and may not even vote at all.

      Worse yet, when someone replies to these antagonizing comments with simply more hate speech, it only works in the antagonizer's favor, because you are just as hateful as he is, and he was probably faking it.
    • Pillage, on 05/19/2008, -0/+2that's tame to what you see on the Huffpo.
    • r00fus, on 05/20/2008, -0/+2When will news/media blog/forums learn to put a simple frickin moderation system on their blogs?
      Digg model, Slashdot, hell, even scoop (powers DailyKos and RedState).

      Until they do so, those forums and comments are absolutely worthless.
  • CouchTomato, on 05/19/2008, -34/+37"The times they are a-changin'.." ;-)

    http://www.bobdylan.com/songs/times.html
    • GregofJersey, on 05/19/2008, -3/+8Dugg for Bob Dylan reference!
    • stonewaljacksn, on 05/19/2008, -10/+3I had to bury you for trying to invoke the spirit of a movement that had REAL CHANGE in it's sights. Bob Dylan would laugh at us for connecting this song with Barack Obama's fake movement.
    • AwesomousPrime, on 05/19/2008, -1/+0ballz
  • Argentian, on 05/19/2008, -105/+14Obama will hurt the USA, bad. It will be touch and go whether or not the weakening to the US goes to it's very foundation during his presidency, or it will be something we can recover from.

    Those Leftists in Oregon have been breeding like flies the last thirty years, that's why they have such a screwed up system there - from a duck expatriate.

    • notoneofus, on 05/19/2008, -9/+48Are you really that obtuse? Obama could wear nothing but a ***** Speedo and travel around the world singing "It's a Small World After All" with our supposed enemies and it would do less damage to the US than Bush does each time he opens his mouth.

      One of the things I miss most about the US is my time spent in Oregon. If Obama wins, I'd even consider moving back to Portland.

      Oh, those crazy leftists and their education and progressive politics! As another former duck, I think you're smoking something way more potent than Oregon weed.
      • minestrone11, on 05/19/2008, -0/+2Portland's really a lovely city. New urbanism at its best.
      • craginm, on 05/20/2008, -2/+1Do you have any idea how funny Obama wearing a Speedo and singing "It's a small world after all" are in the same sentence? It's actually an excellent metaphor, since Obamarama is a lot of nothing that you folks are trying to build up into something he's not. And he should never wear a Speedo, bro ...
    • dinot, on 05/19/2008, -1/+13"It will be touch and go whether or not the weakening to the US goes to it's very foundation during his presidency, or it will be something we can recover from."

      In case you haven't noticed, that's what's already been happening for the past 8 years.
    • jmantra, on 05/19/2008, -4/+2http://jmantra.com/duggdown.wav
    • Argentian, on 05/19/2008, -5/+3There have been some major problems with where our country has gone the past 19 years, certainly. However, there have also been some very good steps made...look at the Conservative justices that were placed on the Court, saving the US from the progression of ever more Liberal justices set in place, notable exceptions excluded.

      George Bush has his own legacy he'll have to deal with, especially the Open Borders shell game he hatched on his own people, the unabashed spending craziness he has been foisting on us (with the Absolute Partnership of the Congressional Democrats) and his inability to put through executive programs to go around the obstructionists in Congress who didn't want us to have a good energy program (to drive prices higher so that more people would leave their cars home and go to public transit, the Leftists' pet technology).

      So I don't think you could reasonably say there haven't been good things happening in the last 7.5 years, but certainly not all of it has been good...or bad.
    • kpainter, on 05/20/2008, -0/+3As another former duck, I'd like to point out that you clearly did not learn a thing while you were at the UO, and that I'm ashamed to share my alma mater with such a closed-minded douche bag. Just because you don't like something doesn't make is "screwed up." and just because you don't believe in civil liberties doesn't mean the rest of us have to suffer.
  • tcbishop12, on 05/19/2008, -11/+151Sen. Obama has spent much of last week talking like a presidential nominee, even though his battle with Sen. Hillary Clinton persists. On Sunday, Portland made him look like one. It produced Oregon's largest political crowd in recent memory, perhaps in state history—half-again larger than the audience Democratic nominee John Kerry drew in the same venue in August of 2004.

    There are those here in response to the article who criticize Sen. Obama for drawing large crowds and generating enthusiasm. I'm still unclear as to the basis for such criticism. And your point is -- ?
    • TheInformer, on 05/19/2008, -55/+5Jimmy Carter did the same thing. Where did he take us as POTUS?
      • Mejari, on 05/19/2008, -1/+37Yeah, don't vote for Obama, other people like him, and you're too cool to be so conformist! If other people like him then he must suck, right? That seems to be your logic.
        • TheInformer, on 05/19/2008, -6/+2Please, vote your conscience. If you believe that Obama is the right choice, then you should vote for him. Obama is a political candidate, not a pop star and certainly not a messiah. Let's have an open debate on positions and ideas, not a one sided list of news stories that only show one side of a candidate. A rational discussion looks at both sides, not one. Republicans who only show the positives about Reagan and ignore his negatives are just as bad.

          Me? I could care less about any of the remaining candidates. All are going to enlarge the federal government. All are going to spend spend spend. They need to stay the hell away from my checkbook.
      • Michael9636, on 08/04/2008, -2/+10"Jimmy Carter did the same thing." Huh? Jimmy Carter drew a crowd of 75,000 when he was campaigning to be the Democratic nominee?
      • stonewaljacksn, on 05/19/2008, -10/+2http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/3200786.jpg?v=1&c=V ...

        not comparing obama to hitler, just showing you the retardedness of thinking that being supported by a huge herd of sheep always means GREAT THINGS. blind mass movements are dangerous, but they never seem that way while the mob is caught up in the frenzy.
        • orangedude, on 05/19/2008, -1/+3Yea... so every large audience is always "blind"?

          Don't kid yourself. These people are far more open minded than ignorant trolls like you.
        • Tebixan, on 05/19/2008, -0/+4You are correct, merely being popular does not make something good. See American Idol.

          However, the opposite is also true. Just because Obama has a lot of supporters, does not make us all "sheeple". Sometimes the public gets it right, that's kind of the idea of democracy, isn't it?
        • phrenzy, on 05/19/2008, -1/+1Riiight.. because Obama is preaching hateful and nationalist ideology... That is an idiotic statement. It's like saying "Not saying DOG LOVERS are like Hitler, but Hitler LOVED dogs so...."

          Did you forget to include this picture with your Hitler invocation?

          http://www.blogfabulous.com/wp-content/uploads/200 ...
        • stonewaljacksn, on 05/19/2008, -2/+1orangedude, calling me a troll is pretty fascist of you. how bout you argue with my statement? no that would be too difficult, you'd rather just put me down for disagreeing with you. i didn't say every large audience is always blind, I said it is dangerous. The emotionality filling your entire response, and your strong resistance against my valid point, is proof of the "faith-like" emotion feeding your love of Obama. Troll HA! The only trolls here are the ones feeding your Obama love...the same people who have the top ten comments in all the pointless Obama articles like this one. No, they agree with you though, so they are not trolls, they are freedom fighters!!
    • IceJelly, on 05/20/2008, -7/+3You guys are all brainwashed... I am sorry that you want to tax the rich more for their success...
      I'm sorry you guys want to vote for a guy who thinks he knows what he is doing.
      Do you guys know who you are voting for? Do you know how many policies he is unclear on? Are you just voting for him because he is black?
      Our forefathers founded this country on laissez faire capitalism.
      It has slowly morphed into a Social Welfare State thanks to liberals...
      Why tax the rich so much? The American Dream is working your way up to the top and being very prosperous. Not having half of your wealth drained by taxes to go to pitiful causes... such as social security, welfare...
      The money for the war in Iraq does not even come close to the money used for social security....
      The funny thing is by the time my generation hits the age to receive social security, which I still would not receive if given the option, we will not get it.

      BTW, nice job with that sneaky little amnesty bill, democrats. You guys sure want to turn this country into a pile of *****.
      • nindustrial, on 05/20/2008, -1/+4For your information, the constitution has repeatedly been interpreted in a way that affirms there is not and was not a specific economic model intended through the document. Also, I hope your realize that not everyone can work their way up to the top... otherwise there would be no top. So unless you seriously believe we should be grinding those below us into the dirt, I am hardly persuaded. Why do you hate America? (see what I did there?)
      • IceJelly, on 05/21/2008, -0/+1It isn't in the constitution because our founding fathers knew that if we went socialist there would be no hope anyhow.
        So let me ask you this? I pay more in taxes so a guy can collect his welfare check and sit on his ass all day and not contribute at all to the economy?
        Why is the government paying people who do not work?
        I do not understand why you are penalized for success and awarded for failure?
        I KNOW WHY! It because most people do not achieve their dreams of wealth so they become liberals and move to tax those who do.
  • stealthc, on 05/19/2008, -81/+38I know everybody thinks Obama is some kind of political messiah and everything is going to be just fantastic when he finally takes office in January, but ask yourself these questions:

    Of the 700 US military bases worldwide, would Obama shut down any of them? The federal government's outstanding obligations are a towering $50 Trillion dollars -- where doe he plan to get that money without closing down the global empire? We've known since Reagan that the Income Tax doesn't pay for anything except the interest on Washington's debt to the Fed. Is Obama even aware of this? If he is, does he have *any* ideas about what to do to change this systemic problem? The Dollar is on the ropes. Would he eliminate capital gains taxes on gold and silver so that Americans have the *option* of using something else if they don't trust the sinking Dollar? Finally, what does he plan to do as president to undo NSA surveillance of everyone's communications activities? Not just the Bush programs, but the Bill Clinton ones as well? Echelon? Carnivore? Is Obama really going to roll back 20 years of NSA growth? Is Obama going to do away with the DHS? Eliminate torture?

    I submit that he won't do any of those things. What *will* happen is that domestic issues will be emphasized and the sprawling empire will be pushed into the background. The same problems will continue, but you'll have some new shiny object to focus on like "Net Neutrality" or socialized health care. The game they're playing with you is so condescending and manipulative it's hard to believe so many diggers, a lot who are usually so wary of authority figures, are eating it up so eagerly.
    • bclinton, on 05/19/2008, -21/+19Now you've done it. You've asked legitimate questions and you will be dugg down for that. It is not important to the Obama faithful that these things get answered. What is important is "We believe in Change" who cares about the specifics of change.......
      • 11up, on 05/19/2008, -6/+10You're a fan of John McCain, have Clinton in your name, and spend nearly every comment bashing Obama (including making blatantly racist comments about him). Honestly, I have a pretty high tolerance for tools, but GTFO the internets. Please.
        • Argentian, on 05/19/2008, -4/+3Don't go getting uppity there, 11. Your fascistic, dictatorial attitude is noticed, and WTF does it matter what a tool does, neh? Please look in a mirror.
      • Mejari, on 05/19/2008, -5/+10No, he'll get buried because these are retarded questions that have been answered again and again and they're only being spewed to generate anti-Obama sentiment. (See there, how I accused you of being anti-Obama without accusing you of being racist?)

        You know what, even if Obama had no idea about any of those things you mentioned (which is easily disproven by actually doing some of your own research) he would still be the best candidate. And you know what, maybe he'll ***** up and not change a damn thing (I don't think it'll happen, but who knows), but I'd rather take a chance on that than take the 100% chance that things'll get worse if McCain gets into office.
      • Andrwmorph, on 05/19/2008, -3/+9Anytime somebody posts sometime remotely anti-Obama somebody like you has to post about how the aforementioned comment will get buried just because it is anti-Obama.

        "HEY LOOK ITS SOMEBODY THATS SPEAKING THE TROOF AND BRINGING UP INGELLAGENT ARGUMANTS BUT YOU OBAMABOTS R JUST GONNA BURY HIM FOR BEING TROOFEFUL!"
    • 11up, on 05/19/2008, -2/+23Good comment, but I'm not surprised at all that you got dugg down for it. People don't like hearing about this sort of stuff, even if they are legitimate points.

      I'd like to think that, for this exact reason, Obama is avoiding this stuff, but will address it once he's in the office. Like it or not, the Presidential campaigns have to pander to the average stupid American voter. The same voter who will vote for the candidate that lies the best about the future, regardless of the actual circumstances.

      Don't get me wrong, if I were American I'd still be an Obama supporter, since he is by far the best option and seems to be a very intelligent man, but his policies aren't perfect (and really, who's are?). I think he'd be a huge step in the right direction.
      • Stormwern, on 05/19/2008, -1/+1Also worth mentioning, alot of the info on those bases is classified, so it could be hard to make that judgement before taking office.
    • JEAH, on 05/19/2008, -2/+7do you really think somebody pushing such a radical shift on all these issues would get anything done?? If you feel these are the things that a president MUST do immediately, then perhaps you oversimplify the situation and job of the 08 president.
      • stealthc, on 05/19/2008, -1/+2Hey, that's a nice straw man. I think a corn-cob pipe would be a great finishing touch. Where's my whittling knife?

        Bringing home the trillion-dollar-per-year empire would allow them to *begin* making a dent in all of the hovering debts and obligations, and yes, the President has the power to do that immediately. Sound too extreme? I'm willing to compromise. Let's bring home half. That still leaves 350 military bases all over the world. I don't know why that wouldn't be enough for you empire-lovers. How is it that when Obama talks about "change" you pee your pants in excitement, but somehow the stuff I brought up is "too radical"?

        If asking the federal government to strictly follow its formative document is radical, then it is not I who am the radical. It is the inmates in that armed madhouse in Washington who are radically overstepping their legitimate authority.

        No empire. No torture. No taxing the poor with a crooked currency. No spying on citizens. No raiding of Social Security, OR forcing young people into it. No hanging our seniors out to dry.
        Yes to independence. Yes to freedom. Yes to a healthy, wealthy, prosperous and respected America. The radical and different thing about America is that it was founded with a government designed to know its limits. No other society on earth had the guts to try such a wild experiment. It was working, and I think we should get back to it.
        • Argentian, on 05/19/2008, -1/+1You are kidding us, aren't you? How else does one promote a global World Order, if you don't have military might deployed to where it will intimidate the reluctant, and back-up the converted?
        • JEAH, on 05/20/2008, -0/+1*standing ovation* *wipes a tear*

          very inspiring... you should run for president. you have all the ideas and you seem like the kind of individual that works well with others in making compromises for the greater good.
    • davidrools, on 05/19/2008, -4/+6Getting rid of the Bush tax cuts for the top 10% income earners is the first step. Ending the war will keep the debt from ballooning the way it has been. And in general, responsible fiscal policies will keep things under control and even begin to put a dent in the damage Bush did while more jobs are created here.
      • stealthc, on 05/19/2008, -2/+1"Responsible fiscal policies" is a value judgment and an abstraction. I'm asking about what -- in the concrete -- this grinning oaf would DO to salvage the financial mess of the United States? The kind of hole the federal government is in regarding entitlements is colossal, and all anyone can muster is "responsible fiscal policies"? The things we can afford to lose right off the top are the empire and the bloated Pentagon budget. Bam. Right there half the problem is solved. Reform the Fed and the monetary system and we can reduce the Income Tax to an unpleasant memory.

        Oh, that and taxing us all to high heaven. That sounds just wonderful. Do you honestly think the "top 10%" are going to stick around if their government starts taxing them out the wazoo? No! They already know how to rearrange their assets so as to avoid taxes. Fiddling with the tax code won't accomplish anything. The "rich" play a role in society. Chasing away the high income bracket would be just as devastating as punishing working-class people for being too poor.
      • PolishLogic, on 05/20/2008, -0/+1They make more money than me, they pay a higher tax percentage than me, they must be punished with an even higher percentage.

        Great attitude. Hope you never make more than 100k a year in your life so you'll never have to feel your own wrath.

        Look, we can make it an equal 20% across the board if you'd like (everyone is treated equally), and lose money. Or we can raise the top teir, watch more money flow off-shore, and lose money. Or we can realize that the top 10% of taxpayers contribute the vast majority of tax revenue and be ***** happy they do. That's not even counting luxury taxes that they pay on things you'll never even buy.

        What sounds good to you? Do you like the idea of punishing people for making money? You know, when you're making 45k a year, there's some guy out there that's upset at you for having that much money. Just like you sound upset about the wealthy having money.
    • ninepointfive, on 05/19/2008, -4/+6Keep up the good work.
      We'll all be able to say "I told you so" after Obama is elected in November and the only change he brings is wearing a different lapel for every day he holds office.
    • BabushkaBlue, on 05/19/2008, -2/+4"Socialized health care" ....
      Oh come ON! Do you reap benefits from your socialized police and fire departments? Public schools? How about those socialized freeways and city streets? Do you use your socialized library? Using your out-of-touch buzzwords aren't working anymore.
      • KevinRWright, on 05/19/2008, -0/+1"Public schools?"

        Take out that one right there and you have a good argument.
        • BabushkaBlue, on 05/20/2008, -0/+1HA! You got me there. You're right.
      • stealthc, on 05/19/2008, -1/+2Just because the word has been around a while does not make it an antiquated buzzword. Just because government has banned the alternatives, and I make do with what's available, doesn't mean I condone the monopoly. But to answer your questions...

        The police have no obligation to help you. In fact they are very likely to taser you if you do not immediately surrender all your rights and submit. No thanks. I prefer them to stay well away from me. I guess I'd call them if they would arrest me for handling the situation on my own.

        I do not patronize the fire department.

        Public schools are the scourge of American education, but in some states it's constitutional. Google Whole Language or New Math, two forms of informational garbage they still teach in public schools, and kids are graduating not knowing what 6x8 is or even how to read.

        Roads? http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig7/woods-d1.html

        And no, I do not patronize the public library either.
    • Baskins, on 05/19/2008, -1/+4Here's why you're getting dug down. You're basically saying don't vote for him based on a set of issues which are quite honestly unknowns in terms of how he will handle them (as I personally haven't heard him directly address those). But of the candidates realistically still available I've heard nothing out of them either... meaning our alternative is what?
      They are worthwhile questions and if the damn MSM did their job we might actually have the answers to them.

      I did watch an accountant grill him on where he's going to get the funding for some of his proposed programs. His response was very itemized. He broke it down very clearly what would have to happen and where resources would come from, which conveyed that he has a reasonable sense of fiscal responsibility. But, more importantly, he was also aware that digging oneself out of a financial hole (a ginormous one btw) means *there will likely have to be ~some~ sacrifice*.
      What captured me the most was how straight and honest he was about all of it, including that which one generally doesn't want to hear. But the truth hurts sometimes and we've got a lot of hole-filling to do.
    • fr0ng, on 05/19/2008, -7/+3Wow, look at you...all high and mighty, thinking you have thought of some groundbreaking concept that someone who has done MUCH more in his life than you ever will, hasn't. Your type disgusts me. Do you REALLY think a US Senator, lawyer, lecturer at one of the best universities in the world, successful author, etc, hasn't already sat down and thought or discussed any of the things you mentioned with his aides/advisors?

      Poor naive you.
      • 140Suffolk, on 05/19/2008, -3/+2Yes, that's what we're afraid of. Obama HAS thought of these things. And come up with the solutions inspired by his mentors: Frank Davis, Rev Wright, et al.

        Of course, the fact that hundreds of millions of people died, mostly in China, Cuba, N Korea, southeast Asia and the USSR, learning that these socialist solutions don't work is lost on Mr Obama.
      • lustyrusty, on 05/19/2008, -2/+3Well how much do you think a US Governor, graduate from one of the best universities in the world, recipient of advanced degrees from one of the best universities in the world, lecturer at one of the most prestigious private schools in the US, CEO of a number of companies, etc, (ie George W Bush) thought or discussed any of these things with his aides/advisors?

        Poor naive, who?
        • stealthc, on 05/19/2008, -1/+3Zing.
        • fr0ng, on 05/20/2008, -1/+1US Governor: thanks to daddy

          Graduate from one of the best universities in the world: thanks to daddy

          Reccipient of advanced degrees: you're repeating yourself in an attempt to make your horrible argument less horrible

          Lecturer at private schools: you mean guest speaker about how to ruin a company?

          CEO of a number of companies: all of which failed



          Poor naive YOU.
    • gmeinsch, on 05/20/2008, -1/+1I'm sorry to inform you, Ron Paul is not going to be the next president.
  • dognose, on 05/19/2008, -48/+15This is Portland. These people need to move to another state if they want to help him win. Take a look at Obama vs McCain:
    http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Obama/Maps/M ...
    • bclinton, on 05/19/2008, -29/+3Booooo - this doesnt show Osama (oops - I mean Obama) winning so it must have been put out by Fox News.
      • StarlessKnight, on 05/19/2008, -1/+1You were put out by Fox News.
    • Jexie, on 05/19/2008, -6/+10McCain is the weakest Republican candidate in decades and his own party is openly debating this. Stop dreaming and get ready for your new leader Obama.
    • zephyear, on 05/19/2008, -5/+9yeah because you know, polls months before the election are ALWAYS accurate

      mccain can't even get a double digit lead in texas, and he's losing in colorado and north dakota

      and in new mexico by a big margin

      mccain is *****.
      • Mejari, on 05/19/2008, -0/+4Lol, i agree with you but it's interesting you choose to follow 'polls this far ahead are inaccurate' with 'the polls show McCain is *****'. :D
      • cupid311, on 05/19/2008, -2/+2I live in North Dakota and we normally are a bright red state, but with this election almost everyone i talk to is saying Obama. When he came to Grand Forks people all over the state went to hear him talk. Some even left before Hilary came up to speak. But really our 3 electoral votes won't mean much. How Sad
    • Gerz1219, on 05/19/2008, -3/+6The methodology there is highly suspect. It counts polls well within the margin of error for each candidate, even if it's only a 1% difference.

      The encouraging thing about that map is how many southern states are in play. Obama will have a towering fundraising advantage and he can make McCain spend money in Virginia, the Carolinas, Florida. He's also competitive in New Mexico, Nebraska, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Ohio, all of which are counted for McCain on that map.

      Obama has put too many states in play for McCain to effectively counter. If he gains 3 points in half of those states between now and November, he wins. Combine that with the fact that these polls still factor in disgruntled Hillary voters, most of whom will probably come around after primary season, and it's an electoral college landslide.
    • brstilson, on 05/19/2008, -2/+6I love how they put Michigan as "Barely GOP" even though they've went Democrat in the last 5 elections.

      EDIT: I just realized this is done with polling data. Oh well. Still, if Michigan went blue for Kerry in 2004, sent 2 Democrat senators to Washington in 2004, and re-elected a Democrat governor in 2004 despite her inability to handle the financial crisis, it's definitely going blue for Obama this November.
    • ubuwalker31, on 05/19/2008, -2/+5Oh yea, well I see your electoral-vote.com and raise you a http://www.electionprojection.com/elections2008.ht ... which says that Obama is ahead.
      • Argentian, on 05/19/2008, -3/+2Dugg Down for faulty logic.
      • jabberwolf, on 05/19/2008, -1/+2Your estimates laughably faulty!
        New Mexico
        Minnesota
        Ohio
        Michigan
        will not vote Dem.
      • BadgerDigger, on 09/04/2008, -0/+2Looks like the only differences between the two maps are Ohio and Indiana. Ohio is Rep in the other and Dem in this one. Indiana is tie in the other and Rep in this one.
    • jabberwolf, on 05/19/2008, -0/+3You will be buried for showing actual statistical facts!!

      DAM YOU for giving us math and thinking!
  • doctorfungi, on 05/19/2008, -45/+1275,000... city size? That's a pretty damn small city.
    • LuxFX, on 05/19/2008, -2/+21The 'city' I grew up in had about 6,000. (The town I live outside of right now has 600). City doesn't mean metropolis. 75,000 is a lot of people.
    • brstilson, on 05/19/2008, -1/+6I lived in a city with 8,000 people.
    • Argentian, on 05/19/2008, -1/+1Picky, picky, picky. I lived in a city of 400, walked six miles to school one way, AND I did it in waist deep snow, every day!!!
    • DrummerAndrew, on 05/19/2008, -0/+5No, it's a large city. 75,000 is more than the population of Mountain View, CA. Ever heard of that place? How about:

      Golden, CO 17,239
      Daytona Beach, FL 64,183
      Panama City, FL 36,267
      Ithaca, NY 29,829

      75,000 > Every city in Montana except Billings.
      http://www.citypopulation.de/USA.html
  • LeadOffMan, on 05/19/2008, -54/+9The same guy that can't win a state any more? There must have been some pretty hard-up people in Oregon.
    Hope is not a viable strategy.
    • noahhoward, on 05/19/2008, -3/+20Can't win a state??? WTF are you blathering on about?
      • LeadOffMan, on 05/19/2008, -18/+1oh let's see, Ohio, Kentucky (tomorrow), Indiana, Texas, New Hampshire, I could go on and on, but you get the point.
        If he really was that great he could seal the deal, and well..uhm..
        • Mejari, on 05/19/2008, -2/+12And you could list even more states that Hillary didn't win. It means absolutely nothing. He has sealed the deal, and I doubt you could come up with one way in which he hasn't (he's winning in popular vote, delegates, super delegates, etc... etc...) It's weird in a primary how some candidates win some states and others lose, right? Besides, there wasn't even an election yesterday and Obama won Nevada. Hows that for sealing the deal?
        • ooby, on 05/19/2008, -1/+8He won Texas. He won North Carolina last week.
    • zephyear, on 05/19/2008, -3/+14actually he's won over 30 states
      • V3n0M, on 05/19/2008, -13/+2That's over half of all 57!!
        • bignerd, on 05/20/2008, -0/+1At least he didn't almost get assassinated in Bosnia!
      • LeadOffMan, on 05/19/2008, -3/+4and still can't make Hildabeast go away
        • noahhoward, on 05/19/2008, -1/+7So Hillary's idiocy and failure to grasp reality when she is losing in every category is somehow Obama's fault. Okay.
        • LeadOffMan, on 05/19/2008, -10/+2idiocy and failure to grasp reality? She keeps winning, why would she drop out? It's obama's fault he can't seal the deal. He has no chance in November
        • sqwirl, on 05/19/2008, -1/+6I'm starting to think the DNC itself can't make Hillary go away. I don't fault Obama for her relentless douchebaggery.
        • noahhoward, on 05/19/2008, -1/+1Keeps winning what? Bitchfest 08? Tears-R-Us award? Please, enlighten me.
    • internetcoward, on 05/19/2008, -1/+3this has to be the thread where all of the idiots/mental patients post today. HOW... IS... YOUR... DAY... TODAY? I... AM... IMPRESSED... THAT... YOU... FIGURED... OUT... HOW... TO... USE... A... COMPUTER...
  • wukillabee, on 05/19/2008, -31/+233 dupe stories already...
    • willy3121, on 05/19/2008, -3/+7I don't check digg for political or world news because I know that I would only be hearing about the latest polls favoring Obama, Clinton/McCain scandels, and on a good day, something of significance from outside the US (war declared, maybe a natural disaster, school shooting). So it doesn't bother me so much that every little Obama victory makes front page. What kills me is that people think things like this are important enough to override Digg's built-in anti-dupe mechanism. Can we please start a bury brigade to kill these stories in the name of common sense?
  • willy3121, on 05/19/2008, -31/+15It's already on the front page, robots.
  • alecki, on 05/19/2008, -65/+11

    Senator Obama has fixed this race by unimaginable tactics. He has misled and deceived millions of Americans His connections with radical, Anti American, anti Semitic leaders were not unveiled until just a few months ago. The media is making light of these matters but they are certainly haunting millions of American voters.

    Senator Obama has hidden his relationship with Reverend Wright, Louis Farrakhan, the radical “Nation of Islam” leader, Anton Rezko, a Syrian Criminal, and his Black Liberation Theology practiced in the Trinity United Church of Christ since the beginning of the primary.

    My community has changed their minds about this man and will not vote for him in the general election because of his lies and deception

    This whole election process, especially not seating Florida and Michigan with almost 400 delegates, is being swept under the rug. This is a disgrace for the American people. Senator Obama is deliberately postponing the process in order to brag about his lead to Americans and to the superdelegates. It is so unfair for these states and to Clinton supporters.

    John King on CNN keeps showing his map with only 48 states. These maps and math are convincing superdelegates that Obama is in the lead. There are 50 states in our country.
    Obama has done everything in his power to convince everyone that there are only 48 by not having a revote or even seating them. The postponement of seating these states is a deliberate act. By Senator Obama

    For those people that were too young to know President Clinton. He is not liked, but loved through out the world. Our country was thriving, the era was "upbeat" and there was peace in our country. He was a powerful and brilliant President with knowledge and expertise of economics and world negotiations. Indeed, if Senator Clinton were to become the President of the United States, just having President Clinton working anywhere in the White House arena would be a huge asset.

    There is no way to compare the worst President in polls” Bush" and the most loved (over 65 percent polled in the US) to President Clinton. The Clintons were and still are the loved and admired. The media has painted President Clinton as a racist in spite of the fact that he has an office in Harlem His years in office were spent fighting for civil rights and for the underdog, especially African American. The coverage of this campaign of the Clintons is disgraceful in this regard above all. African Americans should be ashamed of how they have treated all of the Clintons.

    Trinity United Church of Christ, Reverend Wright, Tony Rezko, Louis Farrakhan, William Ayers a 60’s radical that bombed government buildings and having a Muslim upbringing should be a wake up call to Democrats. Senator Obama’s lack of experience, not relating to the “all American’ guy and his racial bias will also weigh in this fall in the general election.

    On Fox News Sunday, Williams claimed Obama's Muslim father "presents a problem"
    On the January 21 edition of Fox Broadcasting Co.'s Fox News Sunday, National Public Radio senior correspondent and Fox News contributor Juan Williams noted that
    Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) "comes from a father who was a Muslim" and added that "given that we're at war with Muslim extremists, that presents a problem."

    Lastly and something that needs to be evaluated is the race issue; there will never be a fair an accurate poll determining how many people will really vote for Obama. McCain will win if the Democrats don't wake up.

    How much more bad news do we need to know about a Democrat candidate before we realize that this man, Senator Obama, is laughing up his sleeve at all of us Americans.
    Wake up Democrats. We can not and will not win this election unless we run from Obama and start supporting the Clintons.

    Please don't blow the change with a man that has not only known about these issues before the first primary, but has kept it away from the media until the end of this race. Senator Obama will lose this election if he's the nominee.

    Please keep the unsettling issues pertaining to Senator Obama in the forefront.
    There are too many issues surrounding this man that disturbs many Americans and believe me, there will be many more to come.

    Check out the newest story "Curtain time for Barack Obama"
    relating to his criminal friend Rezko in Chicago Scoop.com
    This is one of many circulating online
    http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0805/S00171....
    Another site:
    http://countercurrents.org/pringle160508A.htm

    It is very disturbing. This is not American Idol!



    • SaintStryfe, on 05/19/2008, -4/+31Dugg down for being a long winded rant that is factually incorrect.
    • zephyear, on 05/19/2008, -2/+17ahahahahahhahahahahaha
    • ElAssoWipo, on 05/19/2008, -27/+7It's an election year. You need to dumb it down, you're making way too much sense.

      He's going to change everything, because that's his campaign slogan.

      It doesn't matter that he didn't propose ANY change aside for enhancing or diminishing things that are already in place. His slogan says change and that's what the lowest common denominator wants.

      Oh and he's inspirational and he's a uniter. Whatever the ***** that means.

    • maxer64, on 05/19/2008, -4/+18No one cares about racially charged, ignorant, discriminatory rumors, hearsay, and blatant lies about Obama.

      They're going to seat Michigan and Florida (even though they shouldn't - Barack wasn't even on the ballot in Michigan. The states and candidates agreed that a 100% removal of delegates would occur if they moved their primaries up). MSM has done the math with MI and FL included - it is over.

      Also, with sources like Fox News and Scoop.co.nz... ? then your credibility maybe isn't the most solid.

      I kind of feel bad you wrote all that though. Kind of.
    • sandiegodude, on 05/19/2008, -2/+13I buried because its already in the top 10 on the right hand side, but I just HAD to comment on the above post...

      Who the hell are you voting for? Hilary Clinton or Bill all over again? You keep saying "The Clintons" but all your love is for Bill in your examples you site, not Hilary.

      Bill Clinton was a great president yes. He was the John Everyman that makes a great president. He loved fast food and donuts, he could share fart jokes with your uncle Bob, and he was smart in politics to boot.

      Hillary is an ice cold bitch who is in the pocket of corporations, and has none of the things that made Bill the "John Everyman" of presidents. She's intelligent yes... but its a cold calculating intelligence which would come back to sting us in the ass down the road.

      Honestly, I wonder just how much of Hillary's support is due to people like you who pine for the feel good 90's? I agree Bill was a great president but Hilary is not Bill!
    • jamesfrmmaine, on 05/19/2008, -1/+11In case its not obvious to the repliers above, "alecki" is just a sock puppet. The months leading up to the election will be filled with republicans pretending to be obama or clinton supporters trying to divide the party and keep people from voting. The post above is an obvious cut and paste job.

      • ooby, on 05/19/2008, -0/+4The reply was made 1 minute after the OP was made. It can't be anything other than a cut and paste.
    • sqwirl, on 05/19/2008, -1/+12... and in other news...
      You just made 90% of that up.
    • dinot, on 05/19/2008, -1/+1http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/64/Blac ...
    • jmantra, on 05/19/2008, -5/+1http://jmantra.com/duggdown.wav
    • Argentian, on 05/19/2008, -7/+2You're gonna be buried, big time. The Bama-bots are out en-force today.
    • oscenester, on 05/19/2008, -1/+3Your using FOX News as your source?

      Really? MSM? and beyond that, FOX?

      You must be insane.
    • Nanite, on 05/19/2008, -0/+3Hey, take it easy on alecki guys, it's her first post ever on digg. :)

      I smell a shill account.
  • ljsmithx, on 05/19/2008, -18/+4add my msn
  • Wartyboskfapped, on 05/19/2008, -31/+177Obama is going to win. Suck it, Right Wingers. He is going to win.
    • Clark3934, on 05/19/2008, -39/+7I wouldn't be so sure about that.
    • IslandDog, on 05/19/2008, -30/+6Obama is a weak candidate....face it.
      • cadmiumpaint, on 05/19/2008, -1/+13McCain is the status quo, and America won't stand for that. face it.
      • qbthemc, on 05/19/2008, -1/+5Wow.
      • Wartyboskfapped, on 05/19/2008, -1/+8HA HA HA 'Weak candidate'!! You ***** couldn't even make the Rev Wright ***** stick, and you think this guy is a weak candidate? Meanwhile McCain's campaign is hemorrhaging lobbyists left right and center. Forget it. It's over. If that's the best you can do, you are ***** out of luck.

        Get used to the words: President Obama.

        Basically, after Bush's failed, illegal war, which everyone can see for what it is now, and his ***** of an administrative trainwreck in every department, basically you could field a rancid possum against McCain and the possum would win. Only morons want the Republicans back in power right now. And since the Right has overplayed the fear card, most people are immune to it.

        And the stench of desperation hangs around the far Right like an evil fart.
        • goomba323, on 05/19/2008, -1/+2"And since the Right has overplayed the fear card, most people are immune to it."

          Not only did they OVERPLAY the fear card, they didn't even play it in smart situations. Now, everytime the Republicans use "fear tactics", Obama will call them out on it and the media will scrutinize it, and since it's a known fact that Republicans play on people's fears, the media will expose it to the sheep who eat 24/7 cable news up like candy. I think the media is slowly turning from Republican to Democrat, which is a telling sign that they think (know?) that the Democrats will win.
        • IslandDog, on 05/19/2008, -2/+3Just the fact you called it a failed and "illegal" war show you are probably a writer for the Huffington post.

          Hussein will never be President.

          "I think the media is slowly turning from Republican to Democrat, which is a telling sign that they think (know?) that the Democrats will win."

          Bwhahahahahahaha!
        • phrenzy, on 05/19/2008, -0/+1Dude, you'd better get ready for a very painful (for you) 4 years.
        • 140Suffolk, on 05/19/2008, -0/+2You think Rev Wright didn't stick? Wait and see. Then there's Ayers. And Odinga.
          And wait until America hears what Obama has said about slavery reparations!
          (Hint: he's not against them as long as it doesn't involve checks to individuals)
    • vade79, on 05/19/2008, -2/+8He -should- win, but that doesn't mean he will. Bush got re-elected after accomplishing nothing, so who can tell with the people doing the voting here.
    • ligyron, on 05/19/2008, -16/+8Doubtful. McCain will be really tough to beat. Obama will have to do a lot of convincing to make republicans and independents go democratic. Also, don't forget Clinton is still in the race

      Oh no! I'm being slightly anti-Obama! Buried!
      • Chirp08, on 05/19/2008, -3/+7Realistically it's going to be a tough fight like you said, but burried for being a sarcastic douchebag at the end
      • oscenester, on 05/19/2008, -0/+8Actually there are many, many republicans that have abondoned their party for Obama. And many more to come. When your own party members start disowning you because they ACTUALLY beleive in the other candidate (unlike what the clintonites are doing, threating mccain votes if she doesnt win), someones going on...
        • 140Suffolk, on 05/20/2008, -0/+2Yeah, right. You mean many many sock puppets on digg who SAY they're Republicans.
        • oscenester, on 05/20/2008, -1/+1No jackass. I mean party members like senators and such. get a clue.
    • willdelaney, on 05/19/2008, -2/+3There's a way to unite the parties
      • mingistech, on 05/20/2008, -0/+1fooook the GOP... we don't need to unite.... we need to crush them!
    • DeskFlyer, on 05/19/2008, -1/+1Remember that America voted Bush into the White House *after* Iraq was already in shambles. Don't assume they will vote wisely this time around. After listening to WV voters' comments about Obama, I have to cast a shred of doubt on your prediction.
    • miamiflashfan, on 05/19/2008, -2/+4wtf is up with digg. This guy posts a comment that is slightly constructive at best, and everyone diggs it because its pro- Obama. On any other topic, someone simply stating that someone is gonna win something with the phrase "suck it" is gonna get buried. For example, in a topic debating NL ROTY voting last year, with someone stating "Ryan Braun is going to win. Suck it, Tulowitzki fans. He is going to win," is gonna get buried. Pro-Obama digging freaks are getting out of hand.
      • NightVortez, on 05/19/2008, -0/+3Welcome to digg.
      • r00fus, on 05/20/2008, -2/+1After years of being told we're "terrorist sympathizers", or "elitists", or that we have "san francisco values", telling the right-wingers to suck it is about the mildest form of response I could think of.
    • KevinRWright, on 05/19/2008, -0/+1The problem for most Americans is, if he wins, the day of his inauguration is the day they stop participating in the democratic process. They had already "won" when in reality the hard work is just beginning.

      Obama isn't my guy, but I do like him very much and I do think he can be a very good president. Regardless of who wins, I can only hope that people will feel the same way as John Wanye did when he found out Kennedy was elected over the man he supported Richard Nixon:

      "I didn’t vote for him, but he’s my president, and I hope he does a good job."
    • Flipperbw, on 05/20/2008, -0/+1Aww. Again, any facts basing that claim?
    • aadyss, on 05/20/2008, -1/+0As a Conservative I don't care if Obama wins. Really could care less. We have had very poor Presidents in the past and will have some in the future. We will survive.
    • PolishLogic, on 05/20/2008, -0/+1According to Digg and the rest of the internet, Paul was going to be the GOP man too.

      Excuse me if I take web opinion with a grain of salt.
  • boombye, on 05/19/2008, -7/+8Thought it said Duane Barry at first, was about to warn Mulder and Scully.
  • fleischner, on 05/19/2008, -80/+19I hear the stock for Kraft Foods, makers of Kool-Aid, went through the roof this morning on the NYSE.
    • Acewrap, on 05/19/2008, -4/+15We call it Presidential Punch. You should try some.
    • ndepalma, on 05/19/2008, -5/+4That analogy is so overplayed. I'm so tired of political trash talk. Speaking of which, this link has more trash talk than I think I've seen in the 2004 presidential election alone, yeesh.
    • akeserla, on 05/19/2008, -4/+6In other news, at kentucky (cus banging capital of the world) owing to Hillary's victory a new law legalizing cousin banging is passed
    • pnunn, on 05/19/2008, -2/+4Seriously, that was so played, I barely have the energy to type: YAWN.
      • shlub, on 05/19/2008, -3/+0If you barely had the energy to type "YAWN" how on earth did you have the energy to type "Seriously, that was so played, I barely have the energy to type:" ?
        • Tebixan, on 05/19/2008, -0/+2He's got that entire phrase permanently set to his clip-board, so all he has to do is press "ctrl-V" whenever a comment tires him out.
        • pnunn, on 05/19/2008, -0/+0I don't even begin to know how to hold your hand through this one... could swear I was being facetious...
    • DarkoKun, on 05/19/2008, -2/+6Wow aren't you clever? Did you come up with that all by yourself?
    • hominidx, on 05/19/2008, -1/+2You now have the originality of a Project Manager.
  • RockNRollBeaver, on 05/19/2008, -32/+6I think they need to make a "www.diggpolitical.com" so all these *****'s can post all this crap there =)
    • KSUdesigner, on 05/19/2008, -0/+10How about digg.com/2008_us_elections. Oh wait...
      • RockNRollBeaver, on 05/19/2008, -3/+1How about make one so they can have their own site.. so you dont see that ***** on the front page.
  • chanop, on 05/19/2008, -29/+20Ok, I ***** get it, Obama had a huge crowd in portland. Obama is our Democratic nominee....stop putting the same ***** story on the front page 5 times
    • funkytaco, on 05/19/2008, -2/+4Valid complaint, but not gonna happen.
  • saturnx8, on 05/19/2008, -34/+10BREAKING !!! Largest crowd of Morons ever gathered for a political purpose, thousands clock to see the useless candidate who is buy the democratic nomination...
    what a bunch of retards
    • Mejari, on 05/19/2008, -2/+4"to see the useless candidate who is buy the democratic nomination..." wow, Obama is bi? You'd think that would be one of the retarded talking-points used to 'reveal the truth'. You know, like how he's actually a Muslim, and how crazy his Christian pastor is.Wait-a-minute....
    • sqwirl, on 05/19/2008, -3/+10"clock"?
      "buy"?

      Next time you call people 'retards', you may want to do so using complete sentences and relevant words. It's like you just took a bunch of random words, threw them in a blender, posted the results here, and then proceeded to call everyone else retarded.

      Oh, and let me guess... McCain supporter, right?
      • arTech, on 05/19/2008, -3/+3With that education of his you didn't even have to ask
    • Argentian, on 05/19/2008, -1/+1What can you expect? You've been clocked buy the Biggest Bad Breather seeking a nomination.
  • LeadOffMan, on 05/19/2008, -26/+10next thing you know they'll cart out Hope-Boy in flannel to make him more palatable to the red-neck union members.
    The coalition of eggheads and african-americans.
  • j0hnk377y, on 05/19/2008, -20/+15This is old news and a duplicate of another article on the front page..... I really think there is going to a saturation point where the Obama fanboy stuff backfires.....
    • Mejari, on 05/19/2008, -2/+2If anyone doesn't vote for a candidate because they don't like that some small percentage of his supporters are very zealous then they weren't going to vote for that candidate in the first place. (btw, you want to see super-political zealotry try hillaryclintonforum.net that is one *****-up place, my friend)
    • edwartica, on 05/19/2008, -2/+1Umm, how is it old news? It just happened yesterday!
  • neplusultra, on 05/19/2008, -9/+115I was there. 600 volunteers. Extremely organized. TSA was handling security and doing a great job. Lines were short and people were getting in quickly. The Decemberists played. Great rally.
    • jklikesnews, on 05/19/2008, -4/+43The Decemberists? Obama even has good taste in music.
      • Flipperbw, on 05/20/2008, -1/+1Geez...listen to how infatuated you are..
        • DharmaTurtle, on 05/20/2008, -0/+1I've listened to the Decemberists before Obama. The Crane Wife, check it out.
          They're the band that challenged Colbert to a guitar contest, lighten up dude.
    • TJATL, on 05/19/2008, -11/+3TSA was handling security? ROFLMAO. I have no problem with him having SS guards, but I sure hope his campaign paid to have uniformed TSA workers do the "security". Is he already misusing are tax dollars?
      • jackalsclaw, on 05/19/2008, -0/+5For a minute i thought you were calling Obama Hittler with the SS then I realized you were talking about the Secret Service (the Nazis kinda ruined that name).

        The Secret Service is the center of the protection but they coordinate just about every other federal, state and local agency.
      • cupid311, on 05/19/2008, -0/+2*cough our not are cough* sorry, i had something in my virtual throat.....
        • TJATL, on 05/19/2008, -2/+1yeah i know, i just don't proofread at all....
        • javip, on 05/19/2008, -1/+3i noticed..
          i wonder if it's related to your lack of thinking :)
    • edwartica, on 05/19/2008, -0/+7***** man, the decemberists played? If I had known, I would of gotten in line. Then again, where did the line end? PSU?
      • pintong, on 05/19/2008, -0/+1Yeah, the line went down the the park blocks and on up to PSU. I certainly wouldn't say the "lines were short" ;)
    • rusty123jimi, on 05/19/2008, -0/+11I was there too...it was sooo awesome! Makes me proud to be an Oregonian! =)
    • nickstatus, on 05/19/2008, -0/+3I was there, too. It was soooooo hot, i was happy for the people giving out water. I couldn't really see the obama-man, but I sure heard him. it was great. The decemberists rocked, too.
    • Monkeywithacold, on 05/19/2008, -0/+5Oh man, I wish I went home last weekend. I tried to see Obama in Seattle at Key Arena, but it was full...
      The Decemberists? Man, it would have been awesome if they got The Shins too, but The Decemberists and Obama are already an amazing day.

      I can't wait to move back to portland.
    • dasdef, on 05/19/2008, -1/+2we both go down togetherrrrrrrrrr
    • yakvomit, on 05/19/2008, -0/+1the exits could of been better handled, but still pretty organized considering the turnout.
    • lordcrimmeh, on 05/19/2008, -0/+1I know its horrible, but having a mother with a bad back has never been so great. The Disabled/ADA section was right behind the stage and podium. I couldn't see the crowds, but The Decemberists and Obama were incredible. I shook his hand when he was coming around. Story for my grandchildren.
    • nonstop87, on 05/20/2008, -0/+1"And the anchor person on TV goes la de da de da..."
    • Hincapie, on 05/20/2008, -0/+1could anyone even SEE him?
  • lewhich, on 05/19/2008, -15/+42Boy, its amazing despite all the negative press, hillbilly smears, ***** suggesting an assassination, this dude just keeps riding high and calm. Can't wait to get the "spin" on this rally.
    • Gemfinder, on 05/19/2008, -0/+3Well, that'd be simple.
      "Oregon's a small state (population-wise). It doesn't matter."
      /snark
  • FeargusMcDuff, on 05/19/2008, -35/+18No offense, Americans, but for ***** sake, I don't want to see a Digg story every time Obama goes to the toilet. Its got to be getting close to 25% American politics? And the stupid thing is, its all for one candidate. WHO ARE YOU TRYING TO CONVINCE TO VOTE FOR OBAMA?

    Buried.
    • soot, on 05/19/2008, -3/+24http://digg.com/settings/topics
      • wezman2, on 05/19/2008, -0/+10Best, most thought out, useful, straight-to-the-point comment ever.
    • corryface, on 05/19/2008, -9/+1well said fergus. im bored of the constant articles on obama and clinton. pick one and move on.
    • cha5e, on 05/19/2008, -2/+4No offense taken. Post a story about an election or candidate in your country. If I see it, I'll dig it. We Americans need to learn more about the world outside our borders.
      • TJATL, on 05/19/2008, -6/+2No we need to learn more about our world inside our borders. If you did that, we wouldn't be giving the socialist Obama a chance in hell.
        • cha5e, on 05/19/2008, -2/+4See, just like I said. Look at Canada and the UK, which have socialist governments (or at least certain aspects thereof, such as healthcare). Then you can 1) learn that socialism isn't bad, and 2) learn the actual definition of socialism, and see that Obama isn't.
        • goomba323, on 05/19/2008, -1/+3Sorry to burst your bubble TJATL, but we live in a semi-socialist society already. Lots of things are socialized (including medicine and medical care in many states). So, tell me exactly, how is Obama so "socialist" (and don't say he wants Universal Healthcare, cause he still wants a privatized system)....go on...
  • V3n0M, on