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apcmag.com — Our major national telco is offering 200mb of data with not even 30mins of calls included per month for $89.00 (~$85 USD/CAD), if you want 1gb, then be prepared to pay well over $100 on the same call plan! Oh, and excess data? only $2.00 per mb...
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- SamusAu, on 07/10/2008, -0/+75That's Telstra for you, all of their data services are utterly retarded.
- bsharitt, on 07/10/2008, -1/+6While I still don't like the cellphone companies here in the US, I don't feel as ripped off now.
- purelithium, on 07/10/2008, -0/+2I feel you. Our consumer revolt here in Canada has seen some results, maybe try and do one there in AUS!
- jakem1, on 07/10/2008, -2/+2That's not the Australian way though. Australians just prefer to accept things. Look at what happened when the former government brought in draconian industrial relations legislation that stripped workers of their rights. Similar proposals were abandoned in France at the same time due to public protests but Australians did nothing and just put up with their new laws.
- Cambo, on 07/10/2008, -0/+1Vodafone in NZ are charging $250.00 per month for a 1gb plan ouch!
- thebassmaster, on 07/10/2008, -0/+2You think that's bad? In New Zealand the iPhone is only offered through one provider (VodafoneNZ) which is charging $250NZD (about $200USD) per month for 1GB of data, then $30NZD per gigabyte after that... absolute rip-off.
- rickcarson, on 07/11/2008, -2/+1Oh please. Stop looking at the top priced plans. Most people aren't going to get anywhere near 1GB per month.
- rickcarson, on 07/11/2008, -0/+1Dugg for correct spelling of retarded.
- pHr34kY, on 07/11/2008, -1/+2Telstra are fantastic when it comes to over-usage charges. They have a cable internet plan to the tune of $150/GB if you exceed your 400MB limit. For comparison, they also offer a 12GB plan for $69/month.
Oh, and what was with that massive queue outside Optus World on Elizabeth/Collins St. this morning? - JoeRW, on 07/11/2008, -0/+1Telstra are so *****. I have got 6 people to get off Telstra Bigponds rip off ***** $69/Month for 12 gb! what a joke.
- pHr34kY, on 07/11/2008, -1/+2Telstra are fantastic when it comes to over-usage charges. They have a cable internet plan to the tune of $150/GB if you exceed your 400MB limit. For comparison, they also offer a 12GB plan for $69/month.
- MrSpiffy, on 07/10/2008, -2/+129Hahah, Canadians have no idea what a bad deal is.
Welcome to Australia, Telstra lives here.- LimeParrot, on 07/10/2008, -0/+15I made a comment on the Rogers' digg page about how Australia's plans would be much much worst. I don't think they believed me!
- Blax, on 07/10/2008, -4/+23Australia at least has options for the iPhone. Three providers have it, and Optus is giving you guys a decent deal.
Welcome to Canada, monopolies live here.- markpeck, on 07/10/2008, -0/+3yeah, Rogers is the only GSM operator in Canada, at least there's SOME competition in Australia!
- ChrisLowder, on 07/10/2008, -0/+2Wrong... Turns out you don't know what you're talking about...
Telstra is the only operator with decent coverage cross Australia and they are operating off an entirely different spectrum than the other operators...
So really there are 2 choices (for most only one though, unless you dont mind having a phone you cant get service on):
1. Telstra's Next G Network.
2. Optus or Vodaphone on some scrappy 3G network that will only work if you're standing next to one of the dozen towers they have covering the whole of OZ (i.e. not really an option if you live outside a capital city). - Burn, on 07/10/2008, -0/+1That's not very fair. Optus and Vodafone have great 3G coverage in Metro areas (Where most people work/live) from my own experience and are both planning to have their entire 2G networks (Covering 95% of the population) converted to 3.5G by the end of the year.
Telstra are a ***** option and only your 'only' option if you live in the bush, which isn't where most iPhone customers would live. - stack3r, on 07/11/2008, -0/+1lol bush..
Bush as in not a capital city. So if you dont live close to one of the eight cities, you pretty much dont get any reception. There is a ***** ton of people outside of these capitals that would like an iphone not on tel$tra .. - rickcarson, on 07/11/2008, -0/+2Even Telstra doesn't want to cover the areas outside of the major cities. They keep whining to the regulators about being forced to cover rural areas. And didn't they just dismantle the network the previous 2G iPhone _could_ have run on, which entirely coincidentally I'm sure was one of the only ways for people in really remote areas to get reception?
- chaoswings, on 07/10/2008, -0/+3We do know what a bad deal is. It's just that Canada's is similar to robbing a few jewelry stores while in Australia it's more like robbing a bank on top of stripping the tellers naked and taking their clothes. But on the other hand like Blax said you do have a better option available. Canadians on the other hand have none.
You know things are bad when customers are comparing the telecom deals in other countries almost like they are having a contest. - EdmontonEh, on 07/10/2008, -0/+5Well... get on your mule like us Canucks, and demand change! Where is the petition?... I will gladly sign for you crazy Aussies!
- phoomp, on 07/10/2008, -0/+2Damn ... now we can't honestly say that Rogers' rates are the the worst in the world anymore ... :(
- FrostyFire, on 07/10/2008, -1/+3You're forgetting the huge difference between Australia and Canada. First of all, Canada is directly above the USA geographically and the dollar is worth the same......everything comes and ships from the same place so there shouldn't be such a huge economic difference. You're not comparing Apples with Apples (excuse the pun).
- rickcarson, on 07/11/2008, -0/+4Actually, the Aussie dollar is also worth about the same as the greenback these days, but we pay a 40% premium (30% over and above the 10% sales tax) anyway.
- fatjoe, on 07/10/2008, -0/+4Don't be stupid. New Zealand Vodafone is still the WORST in the world
$250 for 1GB @ Vodafone New Zealand
$169 for 1GB @ Telstra Australia
gg new zealand- Tenoq, on 07/11/2008, -0/+2But doesn't $1NZ = $0.10AU?
;-)
- Tenoq, on 07/11/2008, -0/+2But doesn't $1NZ = $0.10AU?
- submitedby, on 07/10/2008, -0/+78what the hell can you do with 5mb of data?
- johnconn, on 07/10/2008, -0/+33Enjoy several seconds of a youtube video clip?
- Archaic1, on 07/10/2008, -1/+53"LEAVE BRITNEY AL-..."
- twigboy, on 07/10/2008, -0/+1"Loading ..."
- LimeParrot, on 07/10/2008, -1/+28Load left half of naked lady. Use mirror for full image.
- skyfox2k, on 07/10/2008, -0/+11Unless she's at a slight angle, in which case OH GOD?!
- markpeck, on 07/10/2008, -4/+0load 2-3 web pages, lol
- Tenoq, on 07/11/2008, -0/+4You see, the catch is... it doesn't stop working after 5MB, they just start charging you @ $2000 per GB after that.
- johnconn, on 07/10/2008, -0/+33Enjoy several seconds of a youtube video clip?
- soadownz, on 07/10/2008, -0/+37Hellstra have a stranglehold on telecomunications in this country, they are pretty much the only thing really holding us back / keeping us in the stone age.
- crepuscular, on 07/10/2008, -7/+1because it's partly government owned, so schools are with testra...
- Burn, on 07/10/2008, -0/+3Telstra has been completely private as of T3 a YEAR ago.
- twigboy, on 07/10/2008, -0/+2http://www.whirlpool.net.au/
The latest news when it comes to anything broadband related.
Telstra is copping a beating right now and everybody is loving it.
- crepuscular, on 07/10/2008, -7/+1because it's partly government owned, so schools are with testra...
- Wojzilla, on 07/10/2008, -0/+37The sad thing is so many people will sign up with Telstra/Bigpond because it's who they've been with for the last xx years. I can't understand how a company offering such bad value for money actually gets any signups.
- pyros03, on 07/10/2008, -0/+2See: AOL.
- rickcarson, on 07/11/2008, -0/+2Indeed. Apart from Dodo, who else advertises? And Dodo used to be a good deal, but looks more like a clone of Pigpond every day.
People get these fliers and glossy brochures about how good broadband is, and that Pigpond is so great yada yada, and they think that all ADSL must be the same, its a commodity good, right? What they don't realise is that
(a) Telstra will root them badly over excess data charges
(b) Telstra's 1500 ADSL is the same speed as 256 ADSL from everyone else.
- rickcarson, on 07/11/2008, -0/+2Indeed. Apart from Dodo, who else advertises? And Dodo used to be a good deal, but looks more like a clone of Pigpond every day.
- pyros03, on 07/10/2008, -0/+2See: AOL.
- aagius, on 07/10/2008, -0/+20Sweet Jesus - I feel sorry for the people out in the sticks who need Telstra as it's their only choice for mobile coverage. 5MB is ***** useless. At least make it 50MB! It can't be that expensive, Telstra own the goddamn pipes!
- overt, on 07/10/2008, -1/+3I recently moved house, and Telstra is the only option I have for a broadband connection.
goodbye internets :(
- overt, on 07/10/2008, -1/+3I recently moved house, and Telstra is the only option I have for a broadband connection.
- bawpcwpn, on 07/10/2008, -3/+35Vodafone copped out too. Optus FTW!
- Ramzy, on 07/10/2008, -1/+10What are you taking about? Optus want $179 p/month for 1GB of data.
They're completely useless too.
http://tinyurl.com/6ns6jw
http://tinyurl.com/6lc4gn- opiniastrous, on 07/10/2008, -0/+6Optus is fine. You just need to make sure you choose the right plan for you.
I was going to get the 16GB on a 24 month-long $39 plan (roughly what I use normally every month) with the 100 free text option (freeing up talk time). It would come with 500MB data, which is fine because Internet sites tend to optimise their pages for mobile phones, and I've got an HSDPA modem on my notebook computer and WiFi in my house. On top of that, the plan had roll over (unused credit goes to the next month) and roll back (going over the plan's assigned shortens the contract length).
It would have been brilliant for me anyway. Unfortunately, after travelling two and a half hours to get to the George St midnight launch in Sydney, I was rejected on my credit history. It's not that I've had bad debt, it's just that I've never had to take out a loan and I've always found direct debit a more convenient way to pay my bills.
...
I'm hurting. Maybe even more than when I crash landed my parachute the other day. - Tenoq, on 07/11/2008, -0/+1Optus plan is fine. $79 gets you the 8GB iPhone, $550 worth of calls/text and 700MB of data. That's an OUTSTANDING plan in terms of Australian mobile communications.
Previously only Three has offered such awesomeness.
- opiniastrous, on 07/10/2008, -0/+6Optus is fine. You just need to make sure you choose the right plan for you.
- Burn, on 07/10/2008, -0/+1I'm looking forward to 3 carrying the iPhone. Even if their 'iPhone' plans suck, my current plan gives me $350 worth of calls/text and 2GB of data for $80/month which is far better than any of Optus/Vodafone's offerings.
- Burn, on 07/11/2008, -2/+2Please tell me if I'm wrong, but my calculations came up with this:
With Optus AU:
- Choose 16GB iPhone on Optus $19 Cap with 12 month contract: $61 upfront
- Get Optus to Unlock your iPhone: $0
- Cancel Optus Contract: $280 early termination fee
Total for legitimately unlocked, non-contract iPhone 3G: $341?
That seems too easy...but if that is indeed the case I'll be on it tomorrow!
My information comes from this page: http://personal.optus.com.au/web/ocaportal.portal? ...- Burn, on 07/11/2008, -0/+2Yep, my calculations are wrong; it's $61/month for 12 months, not $61 up front, or $960 total.
Looks like I'm going to have to wait and see what deal 3 comes up with.
- Burn, on 07/11/2008, -0/+2Yep, my calculations are wrong; it's $61/month for 12 months, not $61 up front, or $960 total.
- Ramzy, on 07/10/2008, -1/+10What are you taking about? Optus want $179 p/month for 1GB of data.
- gikku, on 07/10/2008, -1/+10Telstra? they still kicking around? WOW!
- christhechris, on 07/10/2008, -0/+6They do own all the phone lines basicly...
- BeauGiles, on 07/10/2008, -7/+1Optus PrePaid > Unlock > Stick in Telstra PrePaid NextG SIM > Dont get slapped with a huge Data bill.
- Bigtruck, on 07/10/2008, -0/+30Simple answer: Boycott Telstra.
Let market forces do what they do best. If you can’t compete, go out of business and make way for a company that can.- lordtyros, on 07/10/2008, -0/+11What market forces do best is ***** the consumer.
- chaoswings, on 07/10/2008, -0/+9Sadly I have to agree with lordtyros. The large majority are either:
a) Not well informed
b) bought it on an impulse
c) have no other choice because of a monopoly.
d) Are retarded and got sucked into one of those limited time offers.
The monopoly point is especially valid when you talk about cabled services. People cannot just pick up and move as they would like.- twigboy, on 07/10/2008, -0/+2Especially when Telstra own the majority of the telecommunications infrastructure.
- MPimagery, on 07/10/2008, -0/+39Telstra fail, Vodafone fail, Optus barely win
- StriferDiem, on 07/10/2008, -0/+42***** Telstra.
- johnconn, on 07/10/2008, -0/+23Australian mobile phone carriers have simple NO idea. This is completely unbelievable. I had thoughts that the iPhone's release in Australia would turn the mobile data market on it's head. I was clearly dreaming.
With 3G pulling data in at 1.5Mb/s you can burn through 80Mb of data in less than 2 minutes...pfft.- antechinus, on 07/11/2008, -0/+1Australian businesses are sharp, they always have been. It is a long tradition in Australia for the consumer to be ripped off. Telstra are only continuing the tradition.
- ajft, on 07/11/2008, -0/+0Australian mobile carriers have EVERY IDEA, they are commercial companies dedicated to making profit for their shareholders, they can do that due to monopolistic practices and poor regulation.
- cyrax83, on 07/10/2008, -0/+285 MB of data used up in ... 3..2..1... now for $2 a mb..
- Disko, on 07/10/2008, -2/+5Telstra: World class.
- jackwebster, on 07/10/2008, -0/+12Telstra: The Australian *****
- VOOK, on 07/10/2008, -1/+31The Chaser was right he really is an Ass-sol
- BeauGiles, on 07/10/2008, -0/+12For anyone who has no idea what VOOK is on about > listen to http://www.last.fm/music/Andrew+Hansen/_/Ass+Sol
- xeonART, on 07/10/2008, -3/+5Pathetic. I was going to line up for you Telstra. But now you have lost me, and im cancelling all my home phone, work phone etc etc plans with you. :)
- bleevo, on 07/10/2008, -0/+6You mean this is the straw that broke the horses back? Where you been telstra have always been blood sucking assholes. What surprises me is vodaphone and optus have followed telstras lead. PATHETIC
- johnconn, on 07/10/2008, -0/+15If you burn through you 5Mb in 3 seconds, what are you supposed to do for the remaining 2 629 740.83 seconds in the month..? 2 bucks a Mb? C'mon!
http://www.google.com.au/search?q=seconds+in+a+mon ... - johnconn, on 07/10/2008, -0/+16I think Telstra had a chance to win people back with the right kind of plans... Chance now blown. FAIL.
- dalesmatrix, on 07/10/2008, -0/+7Such a missed opportunity, way to set back mobile application development in Aus by a couple years Telstra. Not that the other carriers are much better, with Optus scraping into the "barely acceptable" category. At least Optus allow prepaid and unlocking, so you can take your shiny new iPhone to a carrier with better data plans such as Virgin for $15 for 1GB.
- demonic, on 07/11/2008, -0/+2virgin's network is optus. virgins network bandwidth has been restricted by optus, good luck getting a decent service
- magicRob, on 07/10/2008, -0/+10Vodafone are just as bad... http://store.vodafone.com.au/iphone/
Looks like Optus win by default, and even their plans are a bit ordinary too.
These guys are all offering wireless broadband with many gigabytes of data at prices that are somewhat reasonable, yet when it comes to data usage via your phone, nope, sorry, can't do that. They're quite happy to bundle lots of talk time with these, just forget that what makes the iPhone tick is it's ability to do all the data things with little to no effort...
Massive Loss!- Xenex, on 07/10/2008, -0/+4Vodafone's plans are bad, but they're not "just as bad"...
- christhechris, on 07/10/2008, -0/+7Telstra rips you off you with data chrages on all of its services...
- LordSeth, on 07/10/2008, -1/+7Man this sucks. Telstra is my option for coverage but I cant afford those costs....
- bleevo, on 07/10/2008, -0/+2Time to move
- onejosh, on 07/10/2008, -2/+13Telstra and Vodafone are really banking on iPhone purchasers being complete nobs. They don't understand that iPhone purchasers are informed purchasers, that's why they are buying an iPhone. Optus's plans are normal, Vodafone and Telstra have had a month to try and figure out how to compete with Optus and today they give us this .... what a rip off.
Optus already has 20,000 per-orders for the iPhone and already has 25,000 iPhone 2G customers using jailbroken iPhone 2G's.
The good news is that if you really desperately want an iPhone tomorrow there will be guaranteed stock available at all your local Telstra stores lol.- bleevo, on 07/10/2008, -2/+8As much as I would like to agree with you alot of iphone/ipod buyers are buying because apple is Chic, but hey lets be optimistic!
- banmaster, on 07/10/2008, -2/+7"Telstra and Vodafone are really banking on iPhone purchasers being complete nobs."
Well most of the sheep who want an iPhone ARE complete nobs, stupid idiots that believe that having a ***** shiny phone will magically get them a life!
- virtualonliner, on 07/10/2008, -1/+11Day after day, we are getting news about these ***** up iPhone deals all over the world. Is it time to say say, ***** iPhone plans yet?
- rickcarson, on 07/11/2008, -0/+2Data plans in general are a rip off. But when phone companies can charge 25c for a text message which is 100 bytes long (plus protocol wrappers), what incentive is there for them to reform? Even at 1c per message that would be a massive ripoff.
- onejosh, on 07/10/2008, -1/+8Step 1: Buy a prepaid iPhone from Optus
Step 2: Walk to Three store
Step 3: Happiness- bleevo, on 07/10/2008, -0/+2Link to plans?
- Waggs03, on 07/10/2008, -0/+1http://www.three.com.au/plans
Unfortunately they are not offering the iphone as of yet (apparantly cant agree with apple on something, probably all the planet 3 crap they would wanna put on it) so our only option is to fork out for the iphone outright and use a 3USIM. - rickcarson, on 07/11/2008, -0/+1Those plans don't seem to include data (from general web browsing), and data is the main issue.
- Tenoq, on 07/11/2008, -0/+1@ rickcarson - true, but you can tack on 1GB of data for $15/month. Take a $29 cap, get $150 of calls and 200 minutes free to other Three customers and you've got yourself an iPhone on a fairly awesome plan, IMO. :p
The only real catch with Three is getting shafted by excess charges when you roam outside a 3 broadband zone. Unless there's a way to tell the iPhone to NOT use the Internet if it's not on 3G....
- Waggs03, on 07/10/2008, -0/+1http://www.three.com.au/plans
- ivanov, on 07/10/2008, -1/+1The Three SIM is different, and from all accounts, it won't work. This is why they don't have the phone in the first place
- Burn, on 07/10/2008, -0/+1You have no idea what you're talking about, clearly. Three's uSIM is exactly the same as anyone elses (I know this because I have 3 and Optus postpaid plans and swap the SIM cards between any of 4 phones, none of which are 3 branded.
- ziggotron, on 07/11/2008, -0/+1I'd do that, but then I'd lose the Planet 3 portal. Unless the portal is basically a webclip?
- Tenoq, on 07/11/2008, -0/+1More like a proxy. On my V3x you connect to the 3 portal by selecting that particular web session, so it selects an appropriate gateway for the portal. If you want mobile BB, it switches to a different web gateway.
- bleevo, on 07/10/2008, -0/+2Link to plans?
- bonjourmr, on 07/10/2008, -1/+16The telecommunications industry in Australia is prehistoric, its a bunch of ***** actually. We have no idea.
Telstra and the Government have a lot to do with it, regarding things like competition, updating infastructure, pricing and much more.
We've got it, we've got it bad.- banmaster, on 07/10/2008, -0/+2If it wasn't for government regulation it would be even worse than it currently is.
The main problem here is that one single company own pretty much the entire infrastructure even though they were given government money to put it all there to begin with, and that company is doing everything in its power to hold onto those pipes and cables. - Tenoq, on 07/11/2008, -0/+1Yes... some moron took a public infrastructure company owned by the people, re-sold it to the people and now has no control over the infrastructure they sold, and haven't got the balls to do anything about it for the fear of pissing off the public who paid for Telstra twice. :P
- banmaster, on 07/10/2008, -0/+2If it wasn't for government regulation it would be even worse than it currently is.
- bleevo, on 07/10/2008, -0/+6What a load of crap. I refuse to buy an iphone and pay $100 ($120 for telstra) month for 1GB of data. My current phone rings and sends text just fine. Only reason I want the iphone is the increased online capability.
To all those fan boys who argue 1GB of data is enough whats wrong with your current phone, are you buying some jewelery or next gen product. - secretmrx, on 07/10/2008, -0/+3you guys should see Vodafone New Zealand...
- thesineater, on 07/10/2008, -0/+1No joke.
MOST EXPENSIVE IN THE WORLD
- thesineater, on 07/10/2008, -0/+1No joke.
- reni10, on 07/10/2008, -0/+5Optus, Telstra and Vodafone are absolute IDIOTS!
Who in their right mind would want to mess up the biggest launch of a mobile phone that Australia has ever seen!?!
Vodafone need market share in Australia so you would think this would be the best opportunity they would ever have but oh no lets just gouge the money out of people and basically lose customers to other carriers faster!
I for one hope to see Vodafone SUFFER VERY BADLY because of their STUPID short sighted ideas.- Karmavs, on 07/10/2008, -0/+2Optus has done amazingly well out of this actually. Goodwill from having he best plans; new, data heavy customers from being the choice of the providers, and PROFIT, from not being ‘too’ cheap
- JoeRW, on 07/11/2008, -0/+1That makes me feel a bit better for Optus. I was a long time optus customer until late last year when I wanted to upgrade my phone to the internet capable type, so I went into the Optus store and spoke to an attendant who helped me for a while and I chose a phone. But then I stated that I wanted a data plan and the attendant looked to the ground and said ' Well you cant do that here, you'd better go to the 3 store over the road'. Hahaha OK see ya, you tell me to go over to your competition and you lose a long time customer. Thanks for the honesty!
- tama00, on 07/11/2008, -0/+2Good luck using data outside of the cities on 3 then haha
3 have the smallest coverage in australia by far, they classify the sunshine coast as regional! and as soon as you drop off 3's own towers they fall back onto telstras and then the charges per mb are through the roof.
Read the contract son.
- Karmavs, on 07/10/2008, -0/+2Optus has done amazingly well out of this actually. Goodwill from having he best plans; new, data heavy customers from being the choice of the providers, and PROFIT, from not being ‘too’ cheap
- gameradam, on 07/10/2008, -3/+2I'm just going to wait for a hack/jailbreak and buy it then.
- CM23099, on 07/10/2008, -0/+12***** Telstra. I hope Kevin07 breaks them up for the NBN.
- B08ama, on 07/10/2008, -1/+4/me looks at my iTouch, laughs
- TnTBass, on 07/10/2008, -5/+11Dugg for making rogers a verb:
"I suppose if you are going to roger your customers..."- jparkinson, on 07/10/2008, -0/+4Buried for not realizing that using 'roger' in that context has existed for years...
- N00F, on 07/10/2008, -0/+6Austrailian telcos, what magnificent bastards!
- mannymix03, on 07/10/2008, -0/+2And people bitch about how "U.S. cell providers are the worst" and how we get screwed...
- BlackJackJester, on 07/10/2008, -1/+6This is what happens with a lack of competition.
- MentalRay, on 07/10/2008, -0/+4Telstra needs to cease. Their monopoly marketing tactics are visible in all their services.
Let's hope the $4.7bil internet infastructure grant from the Government, doesn't go to them otherwise we are all screwed for the next decade.
Please die...
Btw. waiting for the iPhone to hit the three (3) network. Why it isn't on launch I don't know...they were the original founder of 3G in Australia. - sms021, on 07/10/2008, -0/+3Lets all call and complain about it, A site is giving away $50 of free international calling, so get your $50 and let them know what we think! http://www.gearlive.com/news/article/q208-myglobal ... check it out
- Wootstapler, on 07/10/2008, -4/+7....it's a phone.
- johnomaz, on 07/10/2008, -4/+8Then don't buy an iPhone.
- antechinus, on 07/11/2008, -0/+2Exactly. It seems to me that it is only a problem for the AppleMorons.
I will wait for Google Android. That baby is going to kick the iPhone in the knackers.
- antechinus, on 07/11/2008, -0/+2Exactly. It seems to me that it is only a problem for the AppleMorons.
- Aerandir, on 07/10/2008, -4/+2that's Madness! Crikey!
- bbqsalad, on 07/10/2008, -0/+2I have never had a regular cellphone contract, I use prepaid virgin mobile phone that cost me 17$ , and i only spend about 20$ for talktime/txt's a month. I would love to get an iPhone because i recently got an ipod touch and can just imagine how sweet it would be to have unlimted data on it. How do these companys come up with these figures? How much do you guys think it costs these companys to actually transmit your data and place your calls? It just seems to me like its 100% pure greed pushing these prices and not at all based on actual cost of service... Wouldnt it make more sense to offer cheaper service to the customers and therefor get much more business from people like me who cannot afford 70$+ for a plan?
- jsauter, on 07/10/2008, -0/+2What is better: get the same revenue off a fewer customers with a high cost to them, or many customers with a low cost? By limiting the number of people that subscribe to the service by increasing the price, they reduce their costs of bandwidth, infrastructure and support.
10 customer paying $100 a month brings in the same revenue as 100 customer paying $10 a month, but your costs will be less.
Most companies out there are not in the market of provided cheap technology to the masses, they are there trying to turn a larger profit. Reducing costs while maximizing revenue wins. - mrgermy, on 07/10/2008, -0/+1From an uncorrupted mind yeah it makes sense.
But from the standpoint of the teleco companies they know people are going to go for it regardless of the cost because they 'need' this so badly.
sounds just like fuel prices.
- jsauter, on 07/10/2008, -0/+2What is better: get the same revenue off a fewer customers with a high cost to them, or many customers with a low cost? By limiting the number of people that subscribe to the service by increasing the price, they reduce their costs of bandwidth, infrastructure and support.
- bchang, on 07/10/2008, -0/+8Yes, but you have multiple carriers providing the Iphone.
In Canada its Rogers and only Rogers.- banmaster, on 07/10/2008, -1/+3So? If they're all offering even worse plans than Rogers what difference does it make?
- jparkinson, on 07/10/2008, -0/+2One of them has the opportunity to drop their prices and take the market by storm. Canada on the other hand has to wait until the monopoly decides that it doesn't like being a monopoly anymore (i.e. never going to happen without some major change)
- Ortheos, on 07/11/2008, -0/+1Won't happen. Telstra pretty much owns 95% of the telecommunications infrastructure here, thus it doesn't matter which company you sign up with, they all lease their lines from telstra.
- banmaster, on 07/10/2008, -1/+3So? If they're all offering even worse plans than Rogers what difference does it make?
- WillJS, on 07/10/2008, -0/+5Sucks for you guys :(
- r4ge, on 07/10/2008, -0/+7http://www.vodafone.co.nz/iphone/plans.jsp
- widged, on 07/10/2008, -2/+2Yeah indeed. The aussies' complaints seems light in view of the NZ iphone plans.
- mattie47, on 07/11/2008, -0/+2wtf would someone digg your post down? NZ is worse off that aussie when it comes to the iphone plans....
- widged, on 07/10/2008, -2/+2Yeah indeed. The aussies' complaints seems light in view of the NZ iphone plans.
- apeatling, on 07/10/2008, -0/+4But do you have to sign a 3 year contract? That's the most annoying thing with Rogers.
- akhomerun, on 07/11/2008, -0/+13 years?? holy *****! i thought the 2 in the US was bad.
with all i've heard about rogers it seems like it could possibly be cheaper to get a phone in another country and buy an international plan. well...probably maybe not.
- akhomerun, on 07/11/2008, -0/+13 years?? holy *****! i thought the 2 in the US was bad.
- ahawks, on 07/10/2008, -2/+1I'm confused. 3rd colunn "Included calls per month" ... with values like $25 and $70?
That makes no sense. I can has twenty-five dollars calls included per month?- nydwarf, on 07/10/2008, -0/+2I can has cellphonez?
- rdolishny, on 07/10/2008, -1/+6I love how the world now knows "worse than Rogers" as a metaphor for "high suckage". You can't buy that kind of publicity.
I will say this about us Canadians. We are pretty tech savvy and knew we were being fleeced weeks ago. It's kinda funny reading about "we suck too" three hours after the device goes on sale in NZ, Australia, even the Danes are like WTF and rightfully so. Go Canada!- mizike, on 07/10/2008, -0/+2As a Canadian, i've got to 100% disagree with you; we've been getting fleeced for years, decades even. Rogers lowered their rates for the iPhone (temporarily I might add, it's listed as a limited time promotion), so what? We still only have horrible, horrible, options for cell phone and internet service. None of our internet service providers will provide uncapped/unthrottled service (with very, very few exceptions, all of them regional as opposed to national or even semi-national), and the speed of service is pitiful compared to most countries, even those less developed than us generally pay less for better service. Cell Phones are just as bad; we get to sign 3 year contracts with the minimum price of a plan generally coming in around ~$50 (don't forget about the $10 monthly in system access fees and of course taxes on top of that) for any plan that could realistically replace a landline. Want to call long distance? that'll be $0.35 a minute please.
Just cause Rogers caved on this one issue, doesn't mean they haven't been ***** us for years, and will continue to ***** us for the foreseeable future.- jparkinson, on 07/10/2008, -0/+1Cogeco isn't bad for internet... i get 2MB (megabytes, not megabits)/s downstream from a good source and have never once been e-mailed about going (significantly) over the bandwidth limit. Other than that point I wholeheartedly agree with you.
- TAC5, on 07/10/2008, -0/+1The thing you don't know that really says how much Telstra sucks is they released their plans only hours before launch. It isn't a delayed reaction from us aussies
- mizike, on 07/10/2008, -0/+2As a Canadian, i've got to 100% disagree with you; we've been getting fleeced for years, decades even. Rogers lowered their rates for the iPhone (temporarily I might add, it's listed as a limited time promotion), so what? We still only have horrible, horrible, options for cell phone and internet service. None of our internet service providers will provide uncapped/unthrottled service (with very, very few exceptions, all of them regional as opposed to national or even semi-national), and the speed of service is pitiful compared to most countries, even those less developed than us generally pay less for better service. Cell Phones are just as bad; we get to sign 3 year contracts with the minimum price of a plan generally coming in around ~$50 (don't forget about the $10 monthly in system access fees and of course taxes on top of that) for any plan that could realistically replace a landline. Want to call long distance? that'll be $0.35 a minute please.
- bfoot, on 07/10/2008, -0/+0People, we should start a petition and vote with your money ...
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