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Denmark has the worst iPhone Data Plan ever.

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  • ImadtheApplefan, on 07/02/2008, -4/+46Damn, and I thought us Canadians had it bad. It's time for a world wide strike against mobile carriers! *Runs around like zoidberg* That really is a ***** plan though.
    • joearchy, on 07/03/2008, -1/+1dugg up for zoidberg
    • santaliqueur, on 07/03/2008, -0/+3Running around like Zoidberg is usually the solution to all my problems.

      a...WOOB-WOOOB-WOOB-WOOB...
    • FrostyFire, on 07/03/2008, -0/+1Actually it's worse than Canada......the data is unlimited at 30 Euros. Remember the economy is completely different and one Euro is more like 1 dollar in actual value, not direct exchange rate.
    • mrmorris, on 07/03/2008, -5/+1It's not the carrier, it's Apple that decides prices. Frustrating to us Danes especially since you can go out and buy other new Nokia smart phones and get full 7.2mbit 3.5G support and a 10GB limit for less.
      • znicket, on 07/03/2008, -0/+4Hold on... you think Apple is deciding carrier prices? Heck no. Apple gets a full price from the carrier, the carrier then decides how much to charge the final customer. Most carriers decide to subsidize the phone and get money back from the customer call charges.
        Apple is not getting anything from the call charges - that only applied in the beginning with AT&T, no longer.
    • Tenoq, on 07/03/2008, -0/+1I still think Australia is worse. Telstra gives you the phone free on a 2 year contract for $80/month (100 minutes or so, converted) - then you need to buy a data pack: $59 = 200MB, $89 = 1GB.
    • mprzemek, on 07/03/2008, -0/+1Denmark is Canada of Europe, buddy.
      • themastersb, on 07/03/2008, -0/+3I'm not your buddy, guy.
      • ImadtheApplefan, on 07/04/2008, -0/+1I'm not your guy, friend. *Speaking on behalf of mprzemek*
  • Daniel591992, on 07/02/2008, -0/+14That's insane. It's amazing how different the plans vary by country. Is there any reason why Denmark's plan sucks so much or is it just the telephone company screwing the customers?
    • yuanzhoulu, on 07/03/2008, -1/+7cell phone use in europe is in general, horribly expensive and unlimited plans of anything are hard to find.

      not to mention europe's countries are small, so the moment you travel across borders just to have fun you'll get hit with charges big time. there still exists NO unlimited europe-wide data-plan which i think people are in dire need of, especially given that travelling across borders is easy and cheap, so people do it for both fun and business, except cell phone use sucks while on such trips.

      last time i worked in germany, listening to voicemail cost 50 cents/minute, getting a call while i was roaming in france and NOT answering it cost me double because the call was being routed to france (one roaming charge) and back to germany (another roaming charge) for the voicemail machine to get it. yeah, i know, they could do it more efficiently, but this way they make 2.50 euros/minute off me for whatever spam someone left on my voicemail. sending SMS was 1 euro EACH while roaming. great, isn't it :)

      the EU is trying to institute regulation on mobile phone costs. i don't know if it passed yet or not. even if they do, it's still a bit steep compared to in the states or in most of asia. also, i wonder if switzerland (not part of EU) will reduce their costs too just to be nice.

      the only two good things about european cell phone use are (1) that coverage is fantabulous. being on top of mountains in the arctic wilderness of sweden or hiking through difficult slopes in the alps or being in the middle of ancient ruins, i always got 3-5 bars of reception and rarely less. (2) that cell phones and plans are generally separate entities, and that's the way things SHOULD be. you can walk into a T-Mobile Deutschland store and purchase a plan and a simcard without ever showing them the phone you have, and walk home with the simcard. in the USA the geese at the store can technically do this but won't let you for some utterly stupid reason.
    • willynilly, on 07/03/2008, -0/+3But one thing in common with all the iPhone plans: THEY'RE AN OFFENSIVE RIP-OFF.

      Look at the backlash this time. It's well deserved. I'm not even that interested in the new iPhone anymore. It winds up being a ***** of money for.... GPS.

      FORGET the "3G" data rate if that's what you think the big payoff is, because chances are you'll essentially never see good performance, even in major cities. In tests (Ars Tecnica, maybe) between Verizon, Spring, and AT&T high-speed data cards, Verizon kicked ass, Spring had horrible setup but after that kicked ass, and AT&T was basically unusable most of the time.

      If anyone has a link to that article, please post it for us.
    • madskjaer, on 07/03/2008, -0/+3I live in Denmark, and I'm planning to buy the iPhone when it comes out. Let me explain why the plan sucks so much.

      In Denmark, we have HUGE taxes. Around 25% sales tax, versus the 7% (I think) in the U.S. This makes the iPhone itself a lot more expensive. Second, Telia has the suckies 3G network in the whole country, so they probably expect people to switch over to faster, better, and cheaper plans after the period they have to have the Telia plan. That period is only 6 months (by Danish law), versus two years in the U.S. This explains why the plan is so expensive. As for the 300mb limit - it is outrageous. I don't think Telia understands that I need to browse the internet while I'm on the road, where I don't have Wi-Fi.
  • znicket, on 07/02/2008, -1/+16I suspect that the carrier is somewhat unaware of the game changing nature of the iPhone. According to their statements they think that the iPhone user only uses 10x more data than the average user. To their knowledge the average joe uses 15mb per month on his Nokia phone so they think the iPhone will use 10x that.
    Boggles the mind.
  • ross., on 07/02/2008, -0/+25Just wait until Australian carriers release pricing details, we'll suck harder than your ex-girlfriend!

    (yeh we're still waiting for 1/8th of ***** information from our telcos!)
    • dojonz, on 07/03/2008, -0/+2Optus already has, and they're better than this.
    • Ltgeo, on 07/03/2008, -0/+1Up to 1Gb on Optus.

      Prices are actually decent. On a $49 plan you can get the 8gb iPhone for just $168 on 24 month contract.
    • MEOase, on 07/03/2008, -1/+4I think Australia has a good chance to "win" this title. At present, with all other mobiles, Telstra data costs are astronomical: (but they may change them for the iphone)
      a $79 plan gets you 5 MB of data in addition to the usual calls and messages. If you should exceed your 5MB in the month, excess data is charged at $2 per MB.

      There is of course the option of a browser pack, which is chargted on top of your monthly plan
      "Occasional Users" pay $5 and get 5MB
      "Frequent Users" pay $10 and get 20MB
      "Heavy Users" pay $29 and get a whopping 80MB
      (all excess charged at $1.00 per MB)

      Info from: http://www.telstra.com.au/mobile/services/mobilemo ...
    • Annon201, on 07/03/2008, -0/+2@Ltgeo - you still have to pay a handset fee ONTOP of the plan, which isnt too bad if you go on a 24 month contract, but 12 month contract the handset fee is about 5x that amount.

      yes' iPhone Cap Plan $19 $49 $59 $79 $89 $149 $179
      ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      24mth Minimum Total Cost $456 $1,176 $1,416 $1,896 $2,136 $3,576 $4,296
      24mth Initial Termination Fee $400 $730 $840 $965 $970 $1,060 $1,080
      12mth Minimum Total Cost $228 $588 $708 $948 $1,068 $1,788 $2,148
      12mth Initial Termination Fee $280 $440 $500 $570 $575 $620 $630



      ‘yes' iPhone Plan $19 $29 $39 $49 $59 $79 $99 $149
      ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      24mth Minimum Total Cost $456 $696 $936 $1,176 $1,416 $1,896 $2,376 $3,576
      24mth Initial Termination Fee $540 $600 $730 $740 $860 $980 $1,050 $1,130
      12mth Minimum Total Cost $228 $348 $468 $588 $708 $948 $1,188 $1,788
      12mth Initial Termination Fee $290 $360 $430 $450 $510 $580 $620 $650
    • Ltgeo, on 07/03/2008, -0/+1Yeah the handset fee is where I got the $168 from. That's the total cost over the 24 months. Which I think is very reasonable.
      • bjeanes, on 07/03/2008, -0/+2lachlan, i'll definitely be buying it outright. those optus plans are not as bad as they could be (i.e. generous for optus) but they still aren't that good. i'd rather more data nad less calls. i'll be putting my iphone on my virgin account that gives me a gig of data but only $140 minutes of calls (which is more than I use anyway) for about $45/month. If i need more calls i can always voip it over the data anyway since 1gb will be heaps.
  • MikeSetera, on 07/02/2008, -1/+4After reading this I think we should take the board of directors of T-Mobile (Netherlands) out for a round of electroshock.
  • whazup911, on 07/03/2008, -8/+31Seriously WTF DENMARK? You can have ONE freakin highspeed celluar tower and it will cover your entire country, get with it already!
  • davidrools, on 07/03/2008, -2/+7Might this have an effect on their status as the Happiest Country in the World?

    (ref: http://www.cnn.com/2008/HEALTH/07/02/nations.happi ...
    • HallEffected, on 07/03/2008, -1/+5no nothing can affect the unjustified smug feeling apple users have 24/7
    • nurriz, on 07/03/2008, -0/+4Yes. An expensive dataplan for a phone affects our combined happiness...
  • joearchy, on 07/03/2008, -2/+3Half an hour? I spend at least 3 hours daily on youtube. And not for the reason you would think ;-)
    • HallEffected, on 07/03/2008, -0/+12you don't watch any videos?
    • username7410, on 07/03/2008, -1/+2Watching emo kid confessionals?
    • mike7899, on 07/03/2008, -0/+3it's probably watching those emo girls dance and kiss each other. yea i have the same problem, i usually spend about 3 hours a day watching hot emo girls dance and kiss each other on youtube a day. it's just soooo good
    • willynilly, on 07/03/2008, -3/+1"And not for the reason you would think"

      Well, the only reason for spending time on YouTube is: You're a dumb-ass. You're saying that's not true?
    • ilgaz, on 07/03/2008, -0/+1Man, you aren't forced to buy iPhone with such a price you know? There are various alternative brands, networks.
      If people keep buying these things and whine to digg later, Apple will keep on such stupid decisions and bad choices.

  • EatChex89, on 07/03/2008, -0/+1Limit it to 30 seconds of pr0n a day and you should be good for about the whole month and maybe even have some left to check e-mail.
    • prgmctan, on 07/03/2008, -0/+3I can finish in 2 seconds
      • EatChex89, on 07/03/2008, -0/+1I like to see the ***** jiggle 'round a bit before tugging the chain.
  • kaloke19, on 07/03/2008, -2/+1SMS refers to text messages you donkey! Unlimited data is where youtube streaming comes into play.
  • mcduck, on 07/03/2008, -0/+23In Norway we get these plans;

    1000MB, 1000 Minutes, 1000 SMS; $218 (1099kr) pr month | Phone cost: 8GB: $0 16GB: $177
    250MB, 250 Minutes, 250 SMS; $139 (699kr) pr month | Phone cost: 8GB: $137 16GB: $316
    100MB, 100 Minutes, 100 SMS; $79 (399kr) pr month | Phone cost: 8GB: $276 16GB: $455

    Source: https://netcom.no/iphone.html (In Norwegian)

    No iPhone for me, that's for sure.
  • nixdoctor, on 07/03/2008, -1/+2Wait till the iPhone India plans are announced. iPhone will cost $700 to start with there, let's see how much monthly charges will they apply!
  • mklnz2, on 07/03/2008, -0/+2This isn't half bad compared to New Zealand, oh boy I can't wait for our iPhone plans.

    Check the current plans out:
    http://www.vodafone.co.nz/mobile-data/mobile-inter ...

    Those are just for data, calling plans costs more...
    • martin308, on 07/03/2008, -0/+3Agreed. I predict we are gonna get bent over by Vodafone NZ :(
  • ggbs, on 07/03/2008, -0/+3this is due to the 6month contract..
    • znicket, on 07/03/2008, -0/+3I understand they need to recapture the money but why not have at least 1000mb available for download? It wouldn't cost them anything and they would sell a heck of lot more of phones.
      Or are you saying that they are banking on selling all those extra gb?
  • Andres84, on 07/03/2008, -7/+1Buried for "ever"
  • digggggggggg, on 07/03/2008, -0/+1Well, on the bright side, it's still a marginal improvement from when AT&T was offering that ***** WAP crap for 10 cents a kilobyte. Now that was pure and utter crap.
  • YancyFryJr, on 07/13/2008, -0/+3Holy Christ. It's bad enough to be on AT&T, but to pay that much for it? Ugh.
  • LinuxGalore, on 07/03/2008, -0/+4I would wait a while before buying an iPhone, This always happens with new "me too" handsets, the Telco's only offer "MEGGA BUTT SHAFT!!" contracts that lock you in for 2 years. Wait 3 months and you will get a more normal plan. Apple should really be careful or a nice marketing idea may turn into a turd thanks to the telco's they have hooked up with.
    • willynilly, on 07/03/2008, -0/+2"Wait 3 months and you will get a more normal plan."

      Oh really? Because here it is, a YEAR since the iPhone's introduction, and the plans just got WORSE.

      So what fantasyland do you live in?
    • nurriz, on 07/03/2008, -0/+3Lock in is only 6 months in Denmark,
      • squeevey, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1After 6 months then what? will the iphone work on TDC?
        I'm moving to DK in the fall and would like to figure out if I'm wasting my time buying one here.
  • Annon201, on 07/03/2008, -0/+1I dunno, Optus Australia just released their pricing...
    $49 AUD per month gets you 250mb/$300 calls/text (at 40c per 30sec + 35c flagfall, 25c text messages), and you still have to pay a monthly handset fee of $7/$37 for an 8gb iphone on a 24/12 month contract and $12/$47 for a 16gb.

    The minimum you can pay per month (on a 24mth contract) is $40 - $21 for the handset, $19 for the plan which gets you $50 of calls/text + 100mb a month (and calls are at 47c per 30sec).

    http://www.optusiphone.com.au/getdoc/3727f208-955d ... for full pricing.
    • ilgaz, on 07/03/2008, -0/+1I downloaded 70 mb of podcast just today via my Nokia E65.
      Limiting data can't be done to iPhone, it breaks the whole concept of device. I suggest you safely ignore the device since its actual (official) concept is "always on sending and receiving data". Read about the "Push" scheme they plan as a excuse not to allow multitasking or background apps.
  • Weakener, on 07/03/2008, -0/+3In Norway the company Netcom is even worse:

    https://netcom.no/iphone.html

    If you get the most expensive plan called iTalk Large which costs 1099NKR ($216) pr month (!!) you get 1000 minutes, 1000 sms and 1000mb of data. Thats what I call insane.
    • LinuxGalore, on 07/03/2008, -0/+5The low monthly data rates dont surprise me at all. Most Telco's are terrified of VoIP being used with handsets on their network because it reduces the amount of charges they can apply to each customer.If you make a VoIP call or someone makes one to you they cant charge their customers a highly inflated (4000%) internetwork charge so they restrict your data plan but not your minutes even if you pay more for the plan. The fact you may want to surf youtube doesnt enter their brains because they are stuck in the 1950's
    • Mannon, on 07/03/2008, -0/+2But luckily Forbrukarombudet is on the case. and will go into talks with Netcom.


      Bjørn Erik Thon from Forbrukarombudet:
      «You should be unusual interested in owning an iPhone to willingly bind yourselfe to these plans»

      Go Forbrukarombudet!!!
  • madmate, on 07/03/2008, -1/+7Buried as inaccurate, Norway is way worse.
    • znicket, on 07/03/2008, -0/+6At least you have the option, with more expense, to have a 1 gb data package.
  • Lurr, on 07/03/2008, -0/+0We also paid more than $8 per gallon, and more than 50% tax
    Things just cost more and those prices are not insane here
    • znicket, on 07/03/2008, -0/+3Its not really about the prices... its about the 300mb limit on the data plan. With an iPhone you can go through 300mb in half a day. If you want to use the phone for the other 29 days of the month, you are screwed.
    • willynilly, on 07/03/2008, -0/+4"Things just cost more and those prices are not insane here"

      Way to roll over and accept being shafted. Spineless and broke is no way to go through life, son.
      • nurriz, on 07/03/2008, -1/+4@willynilly

        You seem to have a perfect grasp of how Denmark is put together...
  • Rudegar, on 07/03/2008, -2/+0personal i never buy a phone with a contract i'd much rather ditch up the extre for unlocked phone
    and use what ever contract offers me the best prices rather then a fancy phone
    that way expenses are much more transparent

    guess the phone company should like that too then they dont have to pay apple a % of each mb i dl :P
  • Cile1977, on 07/03/2008, -0/+3Just wait till it comes to Croatia - then you will see what is the worst data plan ever :)
  • Daggerfall, on 07/03/2008, -0/+1The hoggage of the datatransfer will deter me from buying the Iphone...and I´ve been waiting so long :|
  • BK9666, on 07/03/2008, -0/+2In Israel we have the worst data plan. It's: YOU CAN'T HAVE AN iPhone. Good day!
  • bj00rn, on 07/03/2008, -2/+6Inaccurate.

    Norway is even worse. More than $80 per month for 100MB, 100min, 100SMS. I doubt any plan in the world can beat that, unfortunately.

    For some very odd reason Norway has been going from being among the best in class to the worst in class in just a few years. It's just sad.
  • giz0r, on 07/03/2008, -0/+6Heh ... I'm danish AND i work for Telia :P I don't think my bosses will be happy to see this hehe.
    • znicket, on 07/03/2008, -0/+5What are they talking about inside the company though? Do they feel the customers are being unreasonable?
      • DarkFoxDK, on 07/03/2008, -0/+5It's one of the following:
        1. They really believe that the 300 MB really is plenty enough (which, then again wouldn't surprise me, i mean, take a look at their 3G coverage...)
        2. They know plenty well that 300MB is not near enough for the average iPhone user and they can't wait for the millions to roll in when people go over...
    • WZot, on 07/03/2008, -0/+2We're not happy to see these plans from your boss either, dude.:-) So guess we're even then.
  • Guspaz, on 07/03/2008, -0/+2Not all that much worse than Canada. Worse in some many ways, better in others.

    Denmark: One-year average of $106.50 per month, minimum 6-month contract, 300 minutes, unlimited SMS, 300MB.
    Canada: One-year average of $67 per month, minimum 3 year contract, 150 minutes, 75 SMS included, 400MB.

    Cheaper, a bit more bandwidth, but less minutes, far less SMS, and a giant 3-year contract.

    To be fair, let's add a Rogers plan with a comparable pricing:

    Canada: One-year average of $107 per month, minimum 3 year contract, 600 minutes, 200 SMS, 1024MB.

    So, for the same price (and I'm including that hidden $6.95 fee in the Canadian price), you get double the minutes, less SMS if you're a heavy user, more bandwidth, but a 3-year contract.

    There are also other related differences; Denmark gets unlimited in-network calling (iPhone to iPhone would be free), Canada gets evenings and weekends.

    No matter how you slice it, though, that 3-year contract is a killer.
    • aristotle0dude, on 07/03/2008, -0/+1You do realize don't you that it is possible that some existing Rogers customer may get to keep their existing discounts? I for example have a 15 dollar monthly discount with my current phone and plan.

      Also, the three year contract is pretty much moot since every other company in Canada use the ***** CDMA technology. So even if your contract was shorter, you would still be using Rogers or Fido.

      I'd love to see a new Canadian company implement a UMTS/HSDPA based service supporting 850, 1900 or 2100 MHz bands in major cities using sim cards with roaming agreements with Rogers and AT&T to provide GSM/EDGE coverage.
  • DarkFoxDK, on 07/03/2008, -1/+6It seems Telia Denmark is totally argument resistant in this case.
    Telia Sweden changed their plans to something more reasonable, however Telia Denmark refuses to change anything.

    There is only one thing to do in this case; DON'T BUY THE IPHONE AT TELIA DENMARK! That is the only way we can tell them, that we wont take this *****.
    • locodude, on 07/03/2008, -0/+6I still think Telia Swedens plans suck ass. Good going Telia, you single-handedly killed the iPhone on the Scandinavian market. I hope you get raped by a hundred syphellitic camels you money-hungry douchebags.
      • squeevey, on 07/07/2008, -0/+1well they have to stay loyal to the Nokia.
  • TheMightyDane, on 07/03/2008, -1/+2damnit... I hate my country.
  • Daugaard, on 07/03/2008, -0/+0Damn why is everything in this country so f... expensive? Oh never mind, we still got all the danish girls.
  • jasmin888, on 07/03/2008, -4/+1Who the f*** in their right mind care about the iphone?
    Yeah! That's right. "in their right mind"
    The iphone is simply too stupid to care about if you want a PHONE.
    Of course, if you want those beatiful danish girls your only chance may be that phone - seeing as you spend most of your time here on digg.

    The iphone noises people make simply make me ROFL and ROFL ;D
  • zarby, on 07/03/2008, -1/+1go look at the optus plans in australia. you will cry they are that terrible!
  • gpthestar, on 07/03/2008, -0/+3Yada yada yada - if you look at the small print in any of the European contracts it says unlimited data - then additional to that somthing like 500Mb or 300Mb fair use limit.

    How the f**k can that be unlimited and how do they get away with advertising unlimited when it is anything but????

    i agree with ImadtheApplefanImadtheApplefan world wide boycot (pretty impractical though)

    HMFFFFF
  • galore, on 07/03/2008, -1/+1Then don't buy an iPhone. It's really simple.
  • christophelyon, on 07/03/2008, -0/+1It's not a problem about the iPhone, the problem is more simple than that. They fear that some people will subscribe to an iPhone data plan, take the SIM card and simply put it on a laptop computer for continuous use 24/7.

    The same limitaitons exist in France (Orange network), but in a more twisted way : the internet access is unlimited, but if you happen to download more than 500 MB per month, they may (or may not) put restrictions on your EDGE access, not cut it after 500 MB or charge for the exeeding data (the plan doesn't allow it), but rather restrict the speed of the EDGE connexion so that it will simply become impossible to use it. (as if it wasn't slow enough...)
    • jasmin888, on 07/03/2008, -0/+1'why would you buy an iphone for that when you can get much more favorable plans directly for the laptop, no iphones involved?
      • christophelyon, on 07/11/2008, -0/+1The plans for laptops are much more expensive in France. The cheapest iPhone plan is €49, in which you have 4 hours of phone, 50 SMS plus unlimited internet access. The cheapest unlimited internet access plans for laptops are about €50, but only for internet, no phone, no SMS... (of course, it's more expensive because it's 3G+ while the iPhone plan is only EDGE...)

        Plus, there are people who own both an iPhone and a laptop, and in some occasion would like to use the internet connexion in the laptop. And since the iPhone can't be used as a BlueTooth modem...
  • unitsclub, on 07/03/2008, -2/+0Holy Christ. It's bad enough to be on AT&T, but to pay that much for it? Ugh.
    http://www.youtubetc.com/
  • ranza, on 07/03/2008, -1/+1oh i just love to live in denmark! ... crappy service! grr
  • DanielNielsen, on 07/03/2008, -0/+3Well looks like im not getting one after all, ***** YOU TELIA!!!
  • jasmin888, on 07/03/2008, -1/+1Why on earth do you people think the iphone was made for your pleasure????
    It's a goddanm money machine. Every single company involved in the scheme believes that - they all want in on the fraud while it lasts. It's fancy looking but it's not a good phone, bad battery life, unreliable typing - sms'ing will drive you mad. Imagine yourself again trying for the 5th timeto get that url correctly typed.
    The Iphone is a scam for lusers ;)
  • kitsua, on 07/03/2008, -0/+2O2/UK FTW!

    £35 ($69) p/m - 600 free minutes - 500 free texts - Unlimited Data - everything else free.
  • ilgaz, on 07/03/2008, -0/+1It is nothing, just wait for the idiotic Turkish cell provider (Vodafone Turkey) they deal with. It will be something like making into Guinness book of records.
    How I know? Not so hard. Current Vodafone GPRS/EDGE tariff is 0.15 YTL which translates roughly to 20 cents per KILOBYTE. Yes, KB!
    They deal with such a provider while all their current unofficial customers use another provider, Turkcell. I didn't see any cell phone maker trying so hard not to be successful.
    I see Danish people or Canadians bitch about their GSM operators. No people, it is APPLE who chose them and making tricks that would send any executive to prison if they were Nokia or Sony Ericsson. They have broke the PURPOSE of GSM Networking concept. It is _competition_ both outside device and inside device (apps, multi stores). That is what kept GSM protocol alive and same concept is being carried to 3G except Apple.
  • toetagger, on 07/04/2008, -0/+2Something's rotten in Denmark.
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