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Is the iPhone Killing Terrestrial Radio?
mashable.com — For years I ’ve been saying that the days of radio are numbered. The portable, Internet-enabled entertainment portal is a thing of the present. Not only is radio in mortal danger from all sides, but so is TV.
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- gyroscopic, on 07/15/2008, -6/+81Yes, after four days on sale, the iPhone is killing terrestrial radio. That's all it took.
- earnjam, on 07/15/2008, -8/+3It's actually been on sale for about 383 days. I think what you meant to say is 4 days after it was opened to 3rd party software.
- chroko, on 07/16/2008, -6/+3Current availability in my state - zero. The iPhone also doesn't work on my carrier of choice.
How is that a commercial threat? Long-term, maybe - but they've got problems they must work through first.
(Not least of which being the neutered and undesirable iPod Touch - worthless without a speaker + microphone input for VOIP.)
- chroko, on 07/16/2008, -6/+3Current availability in my state - zero. The iPhone also doesn't work on my carrier of choice.
- misterrizzn, on 07/16/2008, -7/+3RTFA! I'm talking about a larger trend here.
- l1wulf, on 07/16/2008, -1/+6As much as I like Mashable, I'm sorry Rizzn, but your article title is just there to get attention. Your article goes on to point out what it will take and then mentions how the iPhone doesn't meet these needs.
What I see...
"Prices must be feasible ... Attention: AT&T and Rogers - $100 a month won’t cut it."
"Devices must be ubiquitous... iPhones (and the comparable devices from other manufacturers) are in the minority."
"Service must be net neutral..."
"Devices must be technology agnostic... biggest deal-breaker out there was that each OS had their preference on what sort of streaming media it would play... no producer can function on only a best case scenario 20% of a potential audience"
How I take this...
Everything written in this article applies to any number of portable devices, but Apple iPhone is the latest and is a hot ticket. How can you go wrong by using it in the title of an article?
Nice article by the way, I just don't see why you went with that specific title. Incidentally, I stopped listening to terrestrial radio years ago. In fact, my car doesn't even have stations programmed to the buttons. My ex-girlfriend was a die hard radio user herself until she got turned on to XM. I can't even think of a single person who still listens to terrestrial radio--even my mom has converted to satellite radio. - l1wulf, on 07/16/2008, -0/+1[I tried to jump back in and edit before the time ran out but failed.]
With all that being said, I also can't think of a single close acquaintance who owns an iPhone. My workmates and friends who own more than a "typical" cell phone are all either Blackberry or Windows Mobile 6 users. Me? I own an ATT Tilt and wouldn't trade it for the new iPhone given the chance. - misterrizzn, on 07/16/2008, -0/+1I used that title because the inspiration for this editorial was an experience described by Jeff Jarvis (see the link in the post). That experience was involving the new iPhone he and his wife got.
I think the iPhone is a central tipping point here - obviously not everyone will own one, but it's showing the bleeding edge of where this technology is taking us, and like it or not, the iPhone is setting a trend. Given that, I think that while it won't be the be all end all of killing terrestrial radio, there's a decent chance we'll look back at this particular release and say "this is another tipping point for the decline of terrestrial radio."
BTW, thanks for being a reader and your kind words. And I will admit, sometimes a sensational headline is what's required to get folks talking about the body of the article.
- l1wulf, on 07/16/2008, -1/+6As much as I like Mashable, I'm sorry Rizzn, but your article title is just there to get attention. Your article goes on to point out what it will take and then mentions how the iPhone doesn't meet these needs.
- Drizzit, on 07/16/2008, -2/+10we'll 12 minutes of commercials for 2 minutes of music probably did it more harm than anything else.
- winnestow, on 07/16/2008, -0/+1not dead yet....
http://www.talkers.com/main/index.php?option=com_c ... - schneb, on 07/16/2008, -0/+1Apple Inc. killed the radio star
Apple Inc. killed the radio star
On my phone and in my car
I hear what I want I've gone to far
Oh ah oh oh oh---------------
- earnjam, on 07/15/2008, -8/+3It's actually been on sale for about 383 days. I think what you meant to say is 4 days after it was opened to 3rd party software.
- skewl, on 07/15/2008, -2/+17Keep in mind that Internet broadcasters are already paying the same licensing fees that terrestrial broadcasters pay, as well as additional fees that terrestrial broadcasters don’t pay.
- misterrizzn, on 07/16/2008, -6/+2That is, if they base their servers in America. If they offshore, they don't hafta... and lots of them are doing that.
- rationalbeats, on 07/16/2008, -2/+3Not true at all. If you base off shore and stream into the United States you are subject to the same laws as everyone else in the United States.
- atarijedi, on 07/16/2008, -0/+0I agree with misterrizzn, it would be like Shortwave Radio broadcasting, if it's picked up in the US, so be it, the US can't charge people around the world.
- atarijedi, on 07/16/2008, -0/+0Actually, if you stream on the internet, from another country, you aren't subject to laws in the US. It's like Shortwave Radio, it can be broadcasting from Russia, Australia, China, Turkey, and be heard inside the US, but the US isn't going to start asking them to be licensed simply because the signals can be received from inside the US.
- rationalbeats, on 07/16/2008, -0/+1Well no, they are breaking the law then, but are so small that it's not worth shutting them down. If it was that easy then a company like Pandora could put their servers in Russia and bypass US Law, as well as stream to the rest of the world, instantly gaining hundreds of millions of new users, yet it doesn't work like that.
- misterrizzn, on 07/16/2008, -0/+1It's similar to the game of whack-a-mole that the RIAA, MPAA and other industry groups play with the torrenting services - once they become of a certain size, they become a target regardless of where they are. For most services and streaming stations, though, simply offshoring their server is the most efficient solution (and, ironically, most law-abiding).
- misterrizzn, on 07/16/2008, -6/+2That is, if they base their servers in America. If they offshore, they don't hafta... and lots of them are doing that.
- umbrellainabin, on 07/15/2008, -9/+44seriously who listens to the radio anyway
- scooterbaga, on 07/15/2008, -2/+26The only thing worthwhile is NPR... which can simply be downloaded if you don't mind being a little behind.
I realized radio was utter crap in the late 90's... That first 20GB iPod was the final nail in the coffin as far as I'm concerned. These days broadcast radio is no more than an annoyance that hinders my iTrip.
...Then again, say any of the above to the average teenager and they'll think you're crazy.- MavRevMatt, on 07/15/2008, -1/+5No, I don't think so. As a teenager I can say probably 80% of people I know don't listen to radio anymore. Either we plug in an MP3 player to our car, stereo, or burn stuff to CD's to listen to it. It's easier, it's what we want when we want it, and there's no advertising.
Of course on the NPR subject probably 1% of teenagers listen to it. I subscribe to one of NPR's podcasts but I don't listen on the radio. - BigRedCube, on 07/15/2008, -3/+2that's cause USA has ***** radio stations....if you were blessed with 'the B' like we are in the world's greatest city your opinion would differ
listen online for a taste....... www.95bfm.com - WiseWeasel, on 07/15/2008, -1/+1@BRC: They have 'the B' in Amsterdam? That's news to me... : P
- scooterbaga, on 07/16/2008, -0/+2...I should probably add that I'm in the midwest. Some of the kids are a little... behind. Maybe it's just my ex-girlfriend's little sister and friends that are slow?
...come to think of it, her sister/my ex was a little slow on the draw... hmmm. - speakafreaka, on 07/16/2008, -0/+1Exactly.. community/public radio is the only thing i listen to in australia (JJJ and FBi).
Clear channel and the like needs to die - gbrmn, on 07/16/2008, -0/+1I have two radios, one that I haven't plugged in in I don't know long. And a car radio, that doesn't work, but when it did I mostly listened to the news radio station.
- MavRevMatt, on 07/15/2008, -1/+5No, I don't think so. As a teenager I can say probably 80% of people I know don't listen to radio anymore. Either we plug in an MP3 player to our car, stereo, or burn stuff to CD's to listen to it. It's easier, it's what we want when we want it, and there's no advertising.
- Seidoger, on 07/16/2008, -1/+6I wake up to radio every morning
- flieger, on 07/16/2008, -0/+3My car deck plays mp3 files from a USB stick so I have at least 8GB of stuff available at any time.
But I still listen to the radio. You might be exposed to good music you've never heard before. - ouzome, on 07/16/2008, -2/+3I listen to Bob & Tom in the morning and talk radio during lunch and the way home. Never plug my iphone in!
- vukeidorian, on 07/16/2008, -1/+7radio is killing radio
- master_of_fm, on 07/16/2008, -0/+3i love listening to Adam Carolla in the morning and once they did away with him I had to resort to streaming him over the internet on my phone. but that actually turned out to be a good thing because reception was always spotty, but you can definitely tell when you cross between cells as there is a half second buffer during the hand off.
- LokitheComplex, on 07/16/2008, -0/+1I guess you don't have Radio 4 then
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/
- scooterbaga, on 07/15/2008, -2/+26The only thing worthwhile is NPR... which can simply be downloaded if you don't mind being a little behind.
- YodaJones, on 07/15/2008, -8/+3Radio and Television have no place in this world. Go away, you are taking up usable spectrum.
- earnjam, on 07/15/2008, -0/+4Over the air television is going away.
- MavRevMatt, on 07/15/2008, -0/+6Radio's been around forever and hasn't gone away after any tech has been introduced. It's gonna take a little more to kill radio, and television will take even longer. Sure, people younger than 40 or so don't listen to radio or watch television much or at all and get it from the internet instead, everyone else, and many people who are younger than 40 but not about new media or "my media" at all, still use both because they don't know any different or don't want to change.
- misterrizzn, on 07/16/2008, -1/+2In context of the article, I'm talking about larger trends here. It could kill the article, and even the mainstream are wondering, after sampling what's possible on the iPhone, why they'd want traditional OTA radio.
- misterrizzn, on 07/16/2008, -1/+2correction. second sentence should read: "It could kill radio, and even ..."
- YodaJones, on 07/15/2008, -2/+1Actually radio is going to be the first to go. It is the least used media. I believe that some radio spectrum will be kept for emergency purposes, but commercial radio is dead. Internet radio will replace that soon.
Television and HD television is another problem because the better the picture quality the more problematic it is to get all that data to the screen without loss which defeats the purpose of HD.
Over the air is a joke unless you live next door to the transmitting antenna. You can recognize those folks by the third arms they grow.
As far as Internet television, or true HD movies (not that MPEG compressed crap that cable or satellite currently deliver and call HD) America is so far behind the rest of the world in our telecommunications that we won't be able to have what Europe or Japan or Korea have for another ten years.
But golly, we sure have a big military. That's way more important.- SteeleJK, on 07/16/2008, -0/+1Yeah, I think national defense might be a little more important than your 'internet stories'.
- zenerdiode, on 07/16/2008, -0/+1Thats funny, I live 50 miles from the transmitter tower and I get crystal clear UNCOMPRESSED HD from my trusty old antenna. I don't know what HD is like on Comcast or DirecTV, but it's compressed like crazy on DishNetwork.
- PopcornDave, on 07/16/2008, -0/+3Fantastic. More spectrum for the government to sell to the highest bidder and dictate how we use the public airwaves.
- YodaJones, on 07/16/2008, -0/+1A lot of people do not realize that their HD signal on cable and satellite is extremely compressed. It should almost be illegal to call what they are delivering HD. In fact I will not be surprised if some resourceful lawyers build a class action lawsuit against the cable and satellite companies by using the term HD to describe their service as delivered.
- WiseWeasel, on 07/15/2008, -1/+65I think terrestrial radio is doing a fine job of killing *itself* with its ***** music selection and extremely annoying advertising... iPhone has approximately zero to do with it except that it also acts as an iPod, so it can be used in the car to play some music you actually want to listen to... If it wasn't that, it'd be some other MP3 player.
- earnjam, on 07/15/2008, -1/+5At this point zero to do with it, but as more people get them and more smartphones catch up with apps like Pandora and Last.fm, I think we'll see it start to have an effect.
- WiseWeasel, on 07/15/2008, -1/+4I have a hard enough time not dropping calls on my drive to work; I don't think I could stand to have my music cutting in and out as EDGE (forget 3G) access is intermittently available... Until cell phone data network coverage gets *A LOT* better, satellite and FM have little to worry about in this regard. Until then, the MP3 playing functionality is a much larger threat to their business models, as it is accompanied by a dramatic change in music finding and listening behavior. I won't be holding my breath until I can get personalized music streams that will play seamlessly through the entire duration of my commute.
- earnjam, on 07/16/2008, -0/+4I used Pandora on my iPhone in the car today to and from work (~30-40minutes). There was a few second delay between tracks while it buffered, but really not too bad. I vastly prefer that to radio commercials or a monthly fee for satellite. (oh, and I'm over EDGE...still have the original phone)
- ngmcs8203, on 07/16/2008, -0/+2I echo earnjam's experience. I travel 1.5hrs a day for work. Pandora was the best thing to happen to my commute since XM Radio and Podcasts. Unless I'm in the mountains I don't see how Pandora could be beat.
- WiseWeasel, on 07/16/2008, -0/+1Unfortunately, I DO commute through some hills. :.(
I guess for all you people with normal urban commutes, it must be pretty cool, as long as the quality is acceptable. - r3zonance, on 07/16/2008, -0/+1"as more people get them and more smartphones catch up with apps like Pandora and Last.fm, I think we'll see it start to have an effect."
Whilst on the face of it, I agree with you, most cell carriers do not permit using the cell networks unlimited data plan for listening to "continuous streams" (i.e. ones which don't have a set end, such as Internet Radio).
As long as there is the potential to receive a huge bill, it won't be overly popular. Most of the world doesn't have blanket Wi-Fi coverage, so it isn't always a viable option. - earnjam, on 07/16/2008, -0/+1Agreed, I'm not saying it will finish them off anytime soon, but I do think it will cut into their sales. Especially as smartphones continue to come down in price and data plans become more and more commonplace.
- engwar, on 07/16/2008, -1/+2The only radio I listen to for music is our local community radio station KDHX. Great programs. Music you won't hear anywhere else. No commercials. Knowledgeable hosts.
Now if I could only get some sort of Tivo-like device for recording the shows I want to hear. Sure I can stream the programs on-line but that doesn't work quite as well.
Commercial radio blows. And a lot of it is due to deregulation which allowed consolidation of all the regionally-owned stations by the big conglomerates. Programming is done by focus group.- PopcornDave, on 07/16/2008, -0/+1I believe that you can do it using Linux by running mplayer with a cron job. Check Linux Journal's website for an article on time shift recording the BBC.
- zenerdiode, on 07/16/2008, -1/+3Couldn't agree more. Clearchannel has been the grim reaper of radio. Every single Clear Channel main station in the US plays the exact same Top 20 pop songs and has the exact same annoying morning DJs. People will only listen to that same Coldplay song (I'm not knocking the band, I'm knocking the repetitive playlists) for so long before they switch over to their MP3 players.
- trekkie, on 07/16/2008, -0/+1This is the problem.
morning drive: who can be the biggest dumb-ass for 40 m, three songs for 5m, and then commercials the rest.
there is no music, I don't want to listen to dick & fart jokes, apparently with rock stations that's all you get is the next howard stern wanna be.
- earnjam, on 07/15/2008, -1/+5At this point zero to do with it, but as more people get them and more smartphones catch up with apps like Pandora and Last.fm, I think we'll see it start to have an effect.
- greywolfexcel, on 07/15/2008, -2/+14There is a huge amount of people that listen to the radio. It will never, ever go away, not when there is even the smallest consumer base that will listen to it. Thank goodness for capitalism. :)
- misterrizzn, on 07/16/2008, -3/+3Isn't that contrary to the idea of capitalism? Isn't it when only the smallest consumer base is left that it ceases to be a viable business model?
- bromanct, on 07/16/2008, -1/+2no, it means if it drives a profit someone will capitalize on it.
- misterrizzn, on 07/16/2008, -2/+3if you've got a shrinking market for your product or service, you've got a shrinking possible pool of listeners to monetize. Given that terrestrial radio is largely untargeted audiences, that means profit will decrease as well.
- xexx, on 07/16/2008, -0/+1digital radio will kill it, as in the frequency it runs on will probably be cut and something else will take its place, just like with TV, we're just not there yet.
- misterrizzn, on 07/16/2008, -3/+3Isn't that contrary to the idea of capitalism? Isn't it when only the smallest consumer base is left that it ceases to be a viable business model?
- MavRevMatt, on 07/15/2008, -3/+35It's not the iPhone killing radio, it's the internet as a whole, new media, and means of playing said media. Buried for iPhone spam that isn't even reasonable.
- Laminarcissus, on 07/16/2008, -1/+6Or just every other phone that was playing radio before the iPhone was even out.
This is seriously insufferable, but PR agencies don't care about that, they just want to game Digg to keep the huge retainers Apple is paying them.- MavRevMatt, on 07/16/2008, -0/+1Of in this case blogs that just want ad dollars.
- misterrizzn, on 07/16/2008, -4/+1The bulk of the article isn't really much about the iPhone. That's just the part of the headline that got your attention.
- Laminarcissus, on 07/16/2008, -1/+4Yes, and it's the PR agency that wrote the headline.
That's the formula -- take any article on any subject and relate it in the headline (because that's the only thing you know everyone will read) to your brand, and then use your dummy accounts to get it promoted to the front page. - misterrizzn, on 07/16/2008, -1/+1Are you kidding me? I wrote this article. I don't work for a PR agency - I work for Mashable, a technology blog.
Trust me, I think I'd know if I was getting a payoff under the table. And the headline would be a lot better - something like Steve Jobs is Jesus or I'm Going to Marry My iPhone. Something.
Did you read the article? As I stated, I don't even own an iPhone - I'm basing my analysis on larger trends and user response. - MavRevMatt, on 07/16/2008, -0/+1Okay, but no matter what you say it comes down to you work for a tech blog who is most concerned about ad dollars than anything else and usually have extreme bias.
- misterrizzn, on 07/16/2008, -0/+1A bias towards what? News? Tech news? I'm not understanding the concern here, and regardless of how the iPhone does with its sales, it doesn't change the opinion and news I write.
- Laminarcissus, on 07/16/2008, -1/+4Yes, and it's the PR agency that wrote the headline.
- Laminarcissus, on 07/16/2008, -1/+6Or just every other phone that was playing radio before the iPhone was even out.
- l800LEMMINGS, on 07/15/2008, -2/+36terrestrial radio is killing terrestrial radio
- interad, on 07/15/2008, -1/+9lame content that is the same city-to-city is killing terrestrial radio
- ZMann, on 07/15/2008, -4/+5Terrestrial radio is crap. I am a happy Sirius subscriber and would recommend it to anyone!
- Drewboy64, on 07/16/2008, -1/+4I love Sirius : )
- kenvsryu, on 07/16/2008, -7/+10Let sirius and xm merge!!!
- Seidoger, on 07/16/2008, -3/+4And let them charge us 40$ a month?
- tnoy, on 07/16/2008, -0/+2Yeah! Competition is only hurting the consumer!!!!
..wait, what?
- reconflux, on 07/16/2008, -5/+9I think it has to do more with MP3 players than the iPhone. The IPODS are killing radio.
- Dumbledorito, on 07/16/2008, -2/+3The days of "sequential broadcast" might be numbered. Shows for TV and radio will still exist (even music shows, as there are some that don't suck or actually tell you interesting things about the music itself), but the delivery seems to be moving towards an "on demand" model.
The two things holding it up are how to generate ad revenue/fees and impossible attempts at DRM that can somehow both prevent copying and not annoy the customers. - BradleyNowell1, on 07/16/2008, -3/+6"Not only is radio in mortal danger from all sides, but so is TV."
They're right...I just got an Iphone and plan on taking back my 50" lcd tv tomorrow. Also my iphone has internet so I don't really need my laptop anymore.- supermanred, on 07/16/2008, -1/+4TV as we know it IS dying. That's why your 50" lcd tv has monitor inputs on it. All new TVs do. To accomodate the future which is PC connectivity, Netflix, AppleTV etc.
- Pic0, on 07/16/2008, -0/+1AppleTV is still around?
Oh.
- Pic0, on 07/16/2008, -0/+1AppleTV is still around?
- supermanred, on 07/16/2008, -1/+4TV as we know it IS dying. That's why your 50" lcd tv has monitor inputs on it. All new TVs do. To accomodate the future which is PC connectivity, Netflix, AppleTV etc.
- Theod48, on 07/16/2008, -4/+7terrestrial radio died a long time ago
- Proctor, on 07/16/2008, -1/+9It's because all radio stations play about 3 ***** pop songs in a row for about 8 months at a time.
- Yage2006, on 07/16/2008, -1/+2It would be more logical to say that the ipod and mp3 players in general are more responsible then the iphone.
- supermanred, on 07/16/2008, -1/+1True, but the iPhone is the most connected of the iPod family since iPod Touch doesnt have the Edge or 3G cellular networks to download or stream from.
- tykwondingo, on 07/16/2008, -5/+3Good riddance.
- FyreDragon17, on 07/16/2008, -1/+4Sliced bread is king! Who would ever eat non-sliced bread ever again??!!
- ferrariman60, on 07/16/2008, -1/+9No, the iphone isn't killing radio. That is very recent. MP3 players and downloadable songs in general are killing the radio. They play too many commercials, have stupid DJs that I don't want to listen to before work (or at all, but especially not before work), and are generally just lame in their music selection. The only stations I listen to are the 2 NPR stations in my area. And the AM station for traffic. Otherwise, it's useless to me. I prefer to listen to my music when I want to listen to it.
- bromanct, on 07/16/2008, -2/+2I have heard the waves that are produced by the iPhone increase not only my penis size but my IQ. I will not need one.
- Karmavs, on 07/16/2008, -0/+1I thought those two were inversely correlated?
- gplpark92, on 07/16/2008, -4/+12i dont listen to terrestrial radio, i listen to EXTRA terrestrial radio!! YEAH SON! (puts on headphones and listens to static) WOOOOOO!! YEAAH ROCK ON
- Dohko_Xar, on 07/16/2008, -4/+3You sound like that 50 year old who is still wearing 70's clothing and never grew up
- Sabin, on 07/16/2008, -0/+2Cool, you have XM too?
- MrTito, on 07/16/2008, -4/+8Yeah, that's it. Terrestrial radio has been in decline for years. MP3 players, internet radio, and satellite radio have been taking chunks out of its ass for a while now. Consolidation of the companies in the media markets hasn't done it any favors, either.
But yeah, it's all because of the godPhone. ***** off with this spam.- jacobdis, on 07/16/2008, -2/+4Took the words right out of my mouth, I've had enough of all this iPhone crap. No product can seamlessly eliminate such a vast industry within a matter of days.
- supermanred, on 07/16/2008, -2/+2No, it'll probably take another year or two.
Look up "iPod" in google or wikipedia if you want a historical precedent.
- supermanred, on 07/16/2008, -2/+2No, it'll probably take another year or two.
- jacobdis, on 07/16/2008, -2/+4Took the words right out of my mouth, I've had enough of all this iPhone crap. No product can seamlessly eliminate such a vast industry within a matter of days.
- depro9, on 07/16/2008, -3/+2The iPhone will not kill radio but wi-max sure as hell will. ***** THE FCC!
- supermanred, on 07/16/2008, -1/+2Many of the streams I can get on 3G wireless are of quality equal to fm radio... and most of the higher bit internet streams over wifi are just as good audio wise.
- samuelmcm, on 07/16/2008, -10/+5stop digging MrBabyman
- supermanred, on 07/16/2008, -2/+2I havent missed old time radio since i bought my first iPod, and yes the iPhone makes radio completely useless to me. I download what I want where I want and listen to it when I want.
- Gandalf101160, on 07/16/2008, -3/+2I agree. Radio has become annoying. I listen to my ipod, and podcasts or audiobooks. If for some reason I can't listen to my ipod I rather have silence or a CD
- p51d007, on 07/16/2008, -2/+6I stopped listening to "over the air" radio around 5 years ago when I got a sat radio. Why did I quit listening?
Easy....TOO MANY COMMERCIALS, and PLAYING THE SAME 20 SONGS OVER & OVER.
They yack and yack on songs with an intro part, yack before it is over, but, the worst are those ANNOYING
commercials.
The iphone/ipod didn't kill commercial radio, the commercials did.- DCstewieG, on 07/16/2008, -0/+2Ugh, I've always hated that. DJs seem to think the song starts when the first lyric comes in.
- duddy, on 07/16/2008, -3/+5No, the iPhone is killing terrestrial radio.
Pandora ON my iPhone is killing terrestrial radio.- Blizaine, on 07/16/2008, -2/+2I'll second that
- Catch_ME, on 07/16/2008, -2/+1Are you sure its the iPhone and not iPod and other mp3 players?
I figure that general mp3 players hurt radio at lot more. - exec0extreme, on 07/16/2008, -4/+5***** TERRESTRIAL RADIO
- Dohko_Xar, on 07/16/2008, -1/+4Sensational *****... did the internet kill radio back 10 - 15 years ago? No.
- rationalbeats, on 07/16/2008, -2/+4You couldn't bring your computer and plug into your car and drive to work, or put your computer in your pocket while you walk your dog, and listen to Internet radio.
Get it now?
Plus you get to do all that for a phone that cost 200 bucks, and a service plan of about 100 bucks a month.
Welcome to the future.
- rationalbeats, on 07/16/2008, -2/+4You couldn't bring your computer and plug into your car and drive to work, or put your computer in your pocket while you walk your dog, and listen to Internet radio.
- sgregory416, on 07/16/2008, -4/+4no satellite radio is killing terrestrial radio.
- drgmdp, on 07/16/2008, -1/+3weren't podcasts supposed to do that?
- bblande, on 07/16/2008, -6/+2A Bababooey to y'all.
- AnalogAssassin, on 07/16/2008, -2/+7Clear Channel and Entercom are killing radio.
- dondara, on 07/16/2008, -1/+3Damn straight. ***** clear channel. Dozens of ***** stations playing the same *****.
- zebraz, on 07/16/2008, -6/+3AM radio is quite alive and well.
So many Digg people have absolutely no clue.
I am beginning to think that most people who read Digg are somewhat retarded.- PopcornDave, on 07/16/2008, -1/+4Hardly. AM talk radio is going to have an older audience. What remains to be seen is that as the MP3 player generation gets older if they're going to flock to talk radio or not. If they don't then that's going to be close to the final nail in the coffin of terrestrial radio.
- ironhide, on 07/16/2008, -0/+2Radio Disney doesn't count. Sorry, I know it's your favorite.
- e2superman, on 07/16/2008, -1/+5Holy *****! Is there anything the iPhone can't do?! This is awesome. Rock on my shiny new magic god toy.
/sarcasm - HappyScrappy, on 07/16/2008, -1/+3no.
- mdude85, on 07/16/2008, -0/+7People have been suggesting that radio will be obsolete for the past 50 years. But surprisingly, radio is one of the few media technologies that has stood the test of time better than many emerging technologies. Radio is ubiquitously available, free to consume, technologically agnostic, and it is widely distributed across geographic and demographic regions. Companies like Clear Channel put a face on radio, but they are a relatively small portion of the overall market of both radio producers and radio consumers.
I seriously LOLed when the author said that the iPhone now being RSS-compliant is an example of it's technological agnosticism. Is this guy delusional? The iPhone is so cutting edge that it is completely the opposite of technologically agnostic. Radio is completely technologically agnostic -- you can listen to radio on your state-of-the-art $18,000 home theatre system or in the analog tuner of your 1957 Corvette.- misterrizzn, on 07/16/2008, -1/+1The opposite of what you say is true.
A myriad of devices accept and run on RSS.
Radio broadcasts are not technology agnostic. The signals are analog, and only work on FM and AM recievers.
At any rate, the statement was made in the context of computing technologies, not past antiquated analogue technologies.
- misterrizzn, on 07/16/2008, -1/+1The opposite of what you say is true.
- elitemrp, on 07/16/2008, -4/+2Terrestrial radio and the FCC are killing terrestrial radio. You can't even say poop on radio anymore. lib lib
- londubh, on 07/16/2008, -2/+3I've heard of this terrestrial radio. I'm intrigued. Tell me more.
- antonio97b, on 07/16/2008, -1/+3What about talk radio? Something that cannot be pirated. Terrestrial is not going to die anytime soon.
- misterrizzn, on 07/16/2008, -2/+1with only a few notable high profile exceptions, the audience for talk podcasts beats the pants off most non-syndicated radio talk show hosts, and many radio talk show hosts that are syndicated.
- lerker, on 07/16/2008, -2/+5"For years I’ve been saying that the days of radio are numbered." And, apparently, for years he's been wrong.
- ouzome, on 07/16/2008, -0/+5This is silly, radio will last for a long time. It may be on demand radio at some point, but it will still be radio - digital or not.
- Nayr213, on 07/16/2008, -0/+2It feels a thousand times better jamming to your favorite song on the radio than it does coming from your ipod. Sure, it may be a rare occurence, but you can't deny that it's true.
- andyduncan, on 07/16/2008, -2/+3The WALKMAN killed terrestrial radio. Radio is just taking forever to act out it's overly melodramatic death.
- Bricks, on 07/16/2008, -1/+3Clear Channel, CBS, Entercom, etc are all scum gargling cashmongers, no doubt.
However... Arbitron is what has TOTALLY ruined radio. Its a company with a Microsoft-level monopoly that measures ratings. Every radio company out there programs to play the Arbitron game. Arbitron currently measures listenership in 15 minute blocks, via handwritten diaries, and cannot reach people with cell phones. So.. the overwhelming bulk of radio in this country is aiming to please people that sit at home, would be willing to take a hand-written/memory-based survey for a dollar, and are reachable via landline. That is radio's target, no matter what age, gender, or music preferences. It ESPECIALLY disenfranchises the desires of cell-phone users (aka nearly everyone) who are young (aka the early tech adopters leaving *****-radio in the dust)
Corporate, consolidated radio... they put on a ***** smile and say they're serving the public interest via entertainment.. they're the mommy-pleasing rich kids that take SAT prep courses. With the SATs, its not about real intelligence, its about a reductionist test score. With radio, its even worse... Its not about the public interest, art, culture, or local community; its about maximizing profit at all costs and overplaying to a horrifically flawed monopoly. - javaroast, on 07/16/2008, -1/+6Just when I thought the iPhone stories couldn't get any crazier this crazy article shows up. The US is a country with limited broadband penetration and cell coverage that is spottier than the logic used to write this so called article. Not to mention radio's important role in breaking local events. It's very premature to be talking about the death of terrestrial radio
- Miamisun, on 07/16/2008, -2/+2No the XM-Sirius merger will kill terrestrial radio! Also the earth is flat.
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