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macnn.com — Following a limited trial run, Joost today announced that it had officially launched its self-titled Internet TV service. While still in late beta, the peer-to-peer TV network is now said to be in full business and is said to have high-profile ads already lined up to appear this month, including segments from Coca-Cola and
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- gjunkie, on 10/12/2007, -5/+22Anyone have an invite??
- MEE2, on 10/12/2007, -5/+60Yeap, invites here: http://fsoj.org/articles/51joost.html
- LordSpam, on 10/12/2007, -3/+19Whoever is doing the invites is a brave soul mee2. Especially if this makes the front page. Hope you didn't have anything planned for the day.
- quomen, on 10/12/2007, -9/+4@mee2
OMGhi2U! - xistboi, on 10/12/2007, -1/+19Im doing an invite thread if anyone wants one:
http://uneasysilence.com/archive/2007/05/10512/ - bumodo, on 10/12/2007, -11/+2If anyone needs an invite leave me a comment with your email address... http://danhill.us/
- keiths, on 10/12/2007, -8/+1Looking for an invite to keith@keithslater.com
- iheartbeer, on 10/12/2007, -2/+61And, I'm collecting all your e-mails and spamming the crap out of all of you (not really, but someone will).
- RedSaber, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1Indeed Lordmac! Hopefully those nice guys will have nothing to do for the next few days, or have a team working on it ;)
Anyways, I just hope I'll get mine soon enough! Can't wait to try that out!
Thanks a lot to all the guys that gives invites! Much appreciated. - rasterbator, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3Joost should go out and get OJ Simpson as their celebrity spokesperson.
- chr1831, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1anyone know when i will be getting my invite?, also anyone but me think that this is going to end up as a spam fest if they don't delete the email after they send each one?
- bumodo, on 10/12/2007, -6/+2Hey guys, I am working my way though the people that posted. Give me a little while, I gotta work though 300 of them so far haha. I will get to everyone eventually. Joost is being nutty slow so it might be a bit...
- retardojesus, on 10/12/2007, -8/+1http://pages.tvunetworks.com/downloads/dlsite.html?id=rdb
TVU Player is free and it streams high quality video of Comedy Central and Fox News (meh) in real time as well as a 24 hour Family Guy channel - blueplanet, on 10/12/2007, -5/+0anyone wanna send an invite to madblueplanet at gmail dot com? thanks
- jterhune, on 10/12/2007, -5/+0if anyone has an invite, I would greatly appreciate one at joost.10.jterhune@spamgourmet.com
- xistboi, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4OMG It's gonna take forever to hand out all the invites!
- nnoob, on 10/12/2007, -7/+1Send me an invite shareefalis (poop) gmail (pee) k0m
- ewonder, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1Can someone throw an invite my way!?!? ewonder at gmail.com Thanks in advance.
- str3ama, on 10/12/2007, -7/+4it means that you haven't had it long enough or something, I have about 6 invites left that I'll give out some time I guess. It's still a bit clunky and its still only videos on demand and it won't have any special videos, it's just p2p video streaming ..think of it as youtube only using p2p and that the content is legal. You end up using alot of bandwidth because your sharing these videos with others as you stream them, and then once your done your still sending out a few data packets to help others. In a way its good but because of bandwidth limitations it's not web ready just yet - at least until we get higher bandwidth allowances from these damn ISPS. Try these instead (some are legal, some are questionable)
http://dynamic.abc.go.com/streaming/landing (ABC)
http://www.innertube.com (CBS)
http://www.nbc.com/Video/ (NBC)
http://dynamic.cnn.com/video/meta/live/stream.1.small.asx?nsfg=&CNNid=1/ (CNN)
http://www.freetube.us.tc (live tv mix)
http://www.getdemocracy.com (indie tv)
http://www.peekvid.com (tv show mix)
http://www.tv-links.co.uk (tv show mix) - britkev1, on 10/12/2007, -5/+1I will be handing out invites on my blog as soon as they make it available. Just leave your name and e-mail address.
http://www.teckh.com/?p=76#comments - jimbojim, on 10/12/2007, -5/+2if someone can send me an invite i'd appreciate it
jimmypetro1@gmail.com
thanks alot - lava, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2I added a comment there but no invite. Can someone send me one? I'm assuming once I have one I can give invites to other people as well?
dslounge@gmail.com - 0004, on 07/04/2008, -5/+79dudes, read the entire license agreement first !!! do not simply click next-> next-> next-> ok !!!
their license says that they can basically do anything, even install spyware, and not be blamed for it!
around the middle of April i got an invitation from them to join their trials and use their new tv-via-p2p internet tv channels.
I go to their site, at https://www.joost.com/download/ to download the installler... and what do i get ? a slap-in-the face license.
I took the time to actually read the license they display (i know...wow factor) and what i read in that license gave me the willies..
They display it in a tiny window... i had to select it all, copy into clipboard and paste it into another program to view it properly.
Practically it says they can install any software they want without asking me, provided that the software they install claims to display a license and that license is accepted.
Here are the relevant quotes:
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2.1.1 Joost and the Joost™ Software will, and will permit third parties to, display advertising and other information within the interface of the Joost™ Software and/or in connection with the display of content and programming, in all cases without compensation to you. Joost or the Joost™ Software serves, and permits third parties to serve, advertisements within or adjacent to the content and programming delivered to you by the Joost™ Software. You understand and agree that Joost or the Joost™ Software, or applicable third parties, may include content-targeted advertisements or other related information, as further described in the Joost Privacy Policy. Your correspondence or business dealings with, or participation in promotions of, advertisers found on or through the Joost™ Software, including payment and delivery of related goods or services, and any other terms, conditions, warranties or representations associated with such dealings, are solely between you and such advertiser.
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all clean, right ?? WRONG. here's what comes next a bit further:
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4.1. You hereby acknowledge and agree that the Joost™ Software may be incorporated into, and may incorporate itself, software and other technology owned and controlled by third parties. Any such third party software or technology that is incorporated in the Joost™ Software falls under the scope of this Agreement. Any and all other third party software or technology that may be distributed together with the Joost™ Software will be subject to you explicitly accepting a license agreement with that third party. You acknowledge and agree that you will not enter into a contractual relationship with Joost or its affiliates regarding such third party software or technology and you
will look solely to the applicable third party and not to Joost or its affiliates to enforce any of your rights.
.....snip...
4.2.3. When installed on your computer, the Joost™ Software may periodically communicate with Joost servers and/or Joost™ Software installed by other users. Additionally, third party software installed on Your computer may periodically communicate with third party servers for the purposes described in the license agreement or privacy policy between you and that third party.
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what ?! third party software may communicate with third party servers ??? isn't this the core definition of spyware ??
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12.8. Governing Law; Jurisdiction; Waiver of Claims. This Agreement shall be governed by and construed in accordance with the laws of Luxembourg, without regard to conflict of law rules thereof. The parties hereto expressly understand and agree that any action brought by you against Joost arising out of this Agreement shall be brought
exclusively in the courts located in Luxembourg, and any action brought by Joost against you arising out of this Agreement shall, at the election of Joost, be brought in either the courts located in Luxembourg, or the applicable courts of the jurisdiction in which you reside. The parties hereby consent to, and irrevocably submit themselves to, the exclusive personal jurisdiction and venue of such courts as set forth in this section. You further agree not to bring
claims on a representative, class member basis, or as a private attorney general, and agree not to assert any claims against Joost unless such claims are asserted by you in the forum required by this Agreement no later than one year following the date that your claim or cause of action arose.
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HUH ?? any lawyer around that actually has a license to practice in Luxemburg ?? not many i think, thus lawsuits there are VERY expensive.
and double HUH ... no class action lawsuits are allowed? are they nuts ? Also..what forum ?? there's no address mentioned in the license agreement itself, maybe the one on their website.
Practically what they say is that they could install any software that claims to show a license to the user and would not install if the user says no... now where did i hear that ?? right... a ton of junk 'helpers' out there claim to behave like this but in reality they don't.
And then Joost says it's not their fault if the software they installed turns to be...let's suppose..a keylogger... and this is where the next bit comes into play: the joost installer itself is trying to do something nasty: What the hell is the joost installer trying to do with my yahoo messenger ?? zone alarm warned me immediately that joost is trying to inject something into the ym process (and i have a screenshot of it too).
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v229/galaad2/joost_p_o_s.png
yuck.. i clicked cancel install and delete.
this software is thrown in the bit bucket.
Also, there's no way you can register on their PUBLIC support forum from the web and start asking questions. They DO NOT allow asking questions prior to installing the app and agreeing to the slavery 'license' agreement.
The only way you can register to get access and post questions on their PUBLIC support forum is by installing their application.
The only way to install their application is by clicking "OK" to that stupid license-to-install-spyware agreement.
Do you see a pattern here ?? they locked out the critics of their app, and only allow inside the slaves that already agreed to be whipped.
bleh. - manixrock, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12@galaad2
I can not certify that the joost installer from their official homepage is spyware free, but I can asure you that you can verify if it or any other program contains spyware by searching for it on http://softpedia.com where they say about Joost 0.9.2 Beta:
"Softpedia guarantees that Joost 0.9.2 Beta is 100% FREE, which means it is a freeware product (both for personal and commercial use) that does not contain any form of malware, including but not limited to: spyware, viruses, trojans and backdoors.
This software product was tested thoroughly and was found absolutely clean, therefore it can be installed with no concern by any computer user.However, it should be noted that this product will be retested periodically and the award may be withdrawn, so you should check back on this page from time to time."
Please ote softpedia is an authority in the field and they have agreements with many firms such that many times they get the newest versions of a program before it even apears on the official page. So I think it's safe to say the installer is spyware-free. - jtm29, on 10/12/2007, -5/+0An invite would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again guys and keep up the good work here at Digg.com!
Email
JTMx29@gmail.com - 0004, on 07/04/2008, -1/+4@manixrock
my issue is not as much with the program as it is with their license. After reading that stupid license i didn't even bother to install the program.
ver. 0.9.2 might not have spyware inside BY ITSELF, but you have to remember that the license gives them the right to install ANY advertising program that CLAIMS to show a license to the user, at ANY time while their program is running (and that includes online program upgrades, as the program seems to be capable of upgrading itself.)
now... thinking of the license and of the always-updating 'feature' can you guarantee that there will NEVER be spyware deployed through it ?
what if they try to install some adware/spyware while you're typing away in a completely unrelated openoffice document ??
imagine this scenario:
type..type..type....enter...type...type...type...enter...type...type..type....
suddenly a license pops up out of the blue, with an "agree" button already highlighted.... and you were about to enter a new line in that document, but the 'license' window has stolen the focus, and your enter keypress is redirected there.
what happens then?? answer: you get an adware/spyware infection, and the license you agreed to when installing joost makes them not responsible for what that piece of s**t does to your computer. Read the license again, particularly the line that says:
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You acknowledge and agree that you will not enter into a contractual relationship
with Joost or its affiliates regarding such third party software or technology and you
will look solely to the applicable third party and not to Joost or its affiliates
to enforce any of your rights.
=============
in summary: if anything happens to your computer because of software installed by us you're SOL because we don't care. - MEE2, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Here's my second attempt to hand out my 950 invites: http://www.fsoj.org/articles/502joost.html
- krikoko, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I better watch http://www.lordoftv.com without any adverts!
- Eloquescence, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0They are invites on the Indy Car website here: http://www.indycar.com/multimedia/joost.php. Check it out, it's actually a lot better than even I could imagine! Try it out! Tell everyone what you think!
- abdielou, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0I have unlimited. send me an email
joost.free@gmail.com
enjoy :)
PD: and no I'm not "...collecting all your e-mails and spamming the crap out of all of you...."
- Baku, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9@mee2
Thanks dudey - got my invite, so will be setting up later today, and also offering invites once I have everything downloaded. :)- CyanidePwns, on 10/12/2007, -4/+0Cyanidepwns(*@*)gmail(dut)com
^Doesn't care about getting spam lol.
- CyanidePwns, on 10/12/2007, -4/+0Cyanidepwns(*@*)gmail(dut)com
- fredthered, on 10/12/2007, -9/+1ack, just discovered the hard way you need an intel mac :(
- troydoogle7, on 10/12/2007, -3/+69got an invite... anything to watch....... NO
- Harrison88, on 10/12/2007, -2/+77Agreed. Everyone loves Joost... yet Joost has no good content.
- tracerrx, on 10/12/2007, -11/+1Totally useless without CNN, Fox news, CNBC etc...
- ostracize, on 10/12/2007, -9/+5Content doesn't matter. This is huge!
Once people pick up on this emerging technology, I think IPTV will be to the 21st century what radio was to the 20th.
It will get much better as many more people sign up (me, I'm still waiting for the Linux version). - edzieba, on 10/12/2007, -1/+28Yup. Joost is a nice platform, but without anything good to watch it'll fail miserably.
- roywaits, on 02/02/2008, -3/+25National Geographic doesn't tickle your pickle?
- meatypuffs, on 10/12/2007, -5/+1I agree, not much to watch as of yet. However, I recommend Dog Bites Man on the Comedy Central channel. The show rocks my socks off.
- drewskyjones, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Well, it's not premium content, but they have some interesting content. I like to flip thru Joost when there is nothing on regular TV (or if I'm away from home and the slingbox is having a connection issue). It sounds like they are going to be bringing a lot of new content soon. My guess is that as users go up, more advertisers will sign up, allowing them to get more content. I think in 3-5 years they will have enough content to be a serious alternative to cable...until then I'll just enjoy it as the content trickles in. Besides, If it wasn't for Joost, I would not know the history of Habenero peppers.
- Numarx, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1World of Stupid is pretty damn cool heh.... Thats worth watching, especially the Tokyo one. The old bozo guy is awesome!
- LonesomeFighter, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1i got Joost, but i can't get on cuz of some stupid "error" message. Then when i'm at college, my school did something so we can't get on Joost, but i'll find a way around that when vacation ends... but first I gotta fix the error message. But my friends that have it tell me it's not worth my time trying to get on.
- memac, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1full ack - very, very poor content
- bumodo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Ha of course, the day after I finally get an invite.
- theballdredge, on 10/12/2007, -7/+0care to pass one along? my digg username @gmail
id appreciate it !
- theballdredge, on 10/12/2007, -7/+0care to pass one along? my digg username @gmail
- Shizlak, on 10/12/2007, -1/+69high-profile ads!
How about some high-profile content?- chris9902, on 10/12/2007, -0/+41the content just gets in the way of the ads.
- KnightMareInc, on 10/12/2007, -8/+3I dont have unlimited invites, so yeah.
- trippinlikegod, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3If you use the channel guide properly there really is a lot of content buried below the 24 channels it starts you with. Just use the side bar. Been using it for a while, waiting for some new video myself.
- pookguy88, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1how do you get all these channels in the Channel Guide?? I don't see nearly as many as there are on this channel overview
- an7agonist, on 10/12/2007, -9/+1Is there a vista version?
- jjhat1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11I run Joost under Vista just fine.
- wheatonrunner69, on 10/12/2007, -8/+0invite?
- joehodgson, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1this is awesome, its been a long time to wait when you dont have an invite!
- xistboi, on 10/12/2007, -7/+23
- CEpeep, on 10/12/2007, -11/+1Thanks for doing this. I'm looking forward to trying it out.
- soccerboi00, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1
- Slippy, on 10/12/2007, -10/+1invite please?
slippyspawn [at] gmail [dot] com - jjhat1, on 10/12/2007, -7/+1I just logged in and it still says I have only 2 invites. Do you have to download a new version or something?
- bumodo, on 10/12/2007, -5/+6If anyone needs an invite leave me a comment with your email address... http://danhill.us/
- jspelc, on 10/12/2007, -7/+0jspelc (at) yahoo (dot) com -- thanks
- tange1, on 10/12/2007, -7/+1since its already spammed tangeonpalm@yahoo.com
- picaman, on 10/12/2007, -8/+24No love for the PPC Macs yet, though been it's promised for some time:
http://joost.com/support/faq/Feature-requests.html#Will-there-be-a-Joost-client-for-Mac-PPC- PathDaemon, on 10/12/2007, -5/+18Don't digg this mofo down. There are ***** of PowerPC Macs out there, and they need love.
- digg-dugg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I'd been invited months ago. But still cant use it on my dual G5
- Maarek, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16Enjoy your icmp requests even with the program tuner disabled.
http://www.joost.com/forums/p/2007/04/i-close-tvprunner.exe-and-get-hosed-by-incoming-icmp-requests-unacceptable!/
The only solution we found was to get a new IP from our ISP.- subliminalurge, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6Thanks for posting that. I had an invite sitting in my gmail inbox I hadn't gotten around to yet, but this story reminded me about it and I was just about to go check it out.
Invitation deleted. I have plenty of other sources for content anyway. - Pirkel, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I have the same issue. My router has recorded 1,000 hits (max allowed to be stored) since 12 pm. It's 3 pm now. There is a new one every few seconds.
- subliminalurge, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6Thanks for posting that. I had an invite sitting in my gmail inbox I hadn't gotten around to yet, but this story reminded me about it and I was just about to go check it out.
- frodsteamin2, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1right on sweetness
- 98acura, on 10/12/2007, -1/+28DAMN, NO MORE EASY MONEY BY SELLING THEM ON EBAY..
- homerhomer, on 10/12/2007, -8/+1Hey, can someone invite me alka_trash at yahoo dot com
- trippinlikegod, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1I'd be more than happy to toss out a few invites but I can't for the life of me figure out how to make an invite code.
- hihuq, on 10/12/2007, -7/+0Any invites? My email is hihuq[at]yahoo.com
- combustion8, on 10/12/2007, -7/+1invite plz
dekester (at) hotmail dot com
thanks! - CaptainStone, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8As of 01May2007, 13:17 Eastern, http://www.joost.com/ still states "Coming Soon".
- resprung, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2But the beta is not exactly smooth sailing...
Here's the support thread for ERROR #121 - an error which kills every clip I put on a few seconds in
It's funny, because everybody is totally pissed off and echoing each other...
http://www.joost.com/forums/p/2007/04/error-121/ - MisterFlaut, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1As long as it's free, sounds like a great idea. Provided I get instant access to what I wanna watch, that is.
Otherwise, it's probably easier sticking with downloading TV shows to your media center with tvrss.net or thepiratebay.org - diggerrrr, on 10/12/2007, -18/+3We have 250 invites...
Leave your E-MAIL
http://www.shoutfile.com/joost-invites/sign-up
Page will be disabled after the invites have gone.- dawgma, on 10/12/2007, -5/+9This redirects to the main page where there is no mention of Joost.... and why would you only have 250 invites? There are unlimited invites available for everyone.
Comment buried as Spam...
- dawgma, on 10/12/2007, -5/+9This redirects to the main page where there is no mention of Joost.... and why would you only have 250 invites? There are unlimited invites available for everyone.
- kungfumaniac, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5fantabulous. Now they just need some decent content.
- MelissaG, on 10/12/2007, -6/+0I would like an invite please.
- robinrobinrobin, on 10/12/2007, -6/+0Could anyone please please, send me an invite? mister.robin@gmail.com
- ruce, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3The new version does not even work for me.... I'm running an intel Mac, piece of crap Joost closes right after I open it with an error message. Not like it ever worked before, the videos were choppy as *****.
- bmaltais, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3Flush your old profile by holding alt while starting Joost
- rampancy, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2I tried profile flushing...I even deleted all of Joost's .plist files...no go.
I reverted back to my old 0.9.2 beta and it still works fine (I do noticed I'm getting more stutters though...)
- anthonylitz, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1please...ooo...help..ah....just need an invite....thanks
- I-Train, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1Once I get an invite, I will hook anyone up with invites. I've been trying to get an invite for ages.
Stay tuned. - tacojohn, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1can someone send me an invite pleaaaaase?
ellenich[at]mac dot com - pipman2004, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1invite for a fellow digger? haddock.p@gmail.com
- SkywalkerX, on 10/12/2007, -6/+0Hate to add to the invite spam, but I've been trying to find one for weeks.
skywalkerx @ gmail . com - RaggTopp, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3And this would explain why their bandwidth went to ***** yesterday.
As if they didn't already have stuttering problems and weak content. Now you can't even see that there's no good content to watch.
GG public beta............- badken, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Umm... isn't Joost based on a peer-to-peer network topology? So more users should actually *improve* bandwidth, not make it worse.
- FrankieB078, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1Someone PLEASE invite me frankie at a-ostudios.com!
- flypig6872, on 10/12/2007, -5/+0if anyone has an invite and wants to share one PLEASE!!!!
flypig.joost@gmail.com
THANKS - mmcwhorter, on 10/12/2007, -5/+0Please invite:
martin at mcwhorter dot org - damnyooneek, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7i have a joost account but it still says i have no invites?
- sammyc53, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Me too.
- insovietrussia, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I beginning to think that this article is *****. I have Joost but still only have a limited number of invites left.
No one else I have spoken to with Joost has unlimited invites. There is no mention anywhere on the Joost site about the expanded beta program, and I not received an email from Joost stating that the invite program has changed (this is unusual as they normally email you about every little thing that happens).
Can *anyone* confirm that they now have the ability to send unlimited invites?
- sammyc53, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Me too.
- rammelhase, on 10/12/2007, -6/+0can somebody send an invite to
der_lobo@hotmail.com
thanks! - madzack, on 10/12/2007, -6/+0can i get an invite? madzack@gmail.com
- Raian, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3I'd be happy to watch anything on joost-- except many of the shows will either not play, or will stutter.
- gauravjjhk, on 10/12/2007, -6/+0some kind soul please send me an invite!
gauravjj@gmail.com - iamgeorge, on 10/12/2007, -6/+0It's worth a shot at getting an invite. I'd really appreciate it.
Oh well.
elasticpants at gmail dawt com
I guess they figured "If it worked for GMail..." - superyounan1, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4"requires intel based Mac or Windows PC"
boo, no love for linux? but we're early adopters! :( - zaren, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10Lazy me, I'm just going to copy and paste what I said on the MacNN page that this links to :)
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That's funny...
There's nothing on joost.com about this, and I've heard nothing about it as a beta tester. I'd be happy to hand out some invites, if they existed and this was true. But, once again, the crack staff at macNN posts an article with no confirmation or useful linkage. Sorry folks, you'll have to wait this one out until useful information comes from somewhere else.
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Oh, and for everyone posting their email addresses in those uneasysilence and fsoj threads - good job feeding the spam scrapers.- badken, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I have disposable addresses with good spam filters.
I couldn't care less about spam scrapers.
- badken, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I have disposable addresses with good spam filters.
- IQis87, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10thompsonjack000@gmail.com
- math0ne, on 10/12/2007, -5/+1If anyone can send an invite to math0ne [at] gmail.com
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