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- vrikis, on 10/13/2008, -4/+31Have you not heard? I believe everyone has heard that the bird is the word. Honestly Engadget always have the best live coverage
- quomen, on 10/14/2008, -4/+10Gizmodo, Endgadget, same story.
- MattAlexander, on 10/14/2008, -3/+8Yes, but Gizmodo brings little to the table in terms of integrity, or journalistic skill.
- quomen, on 10/14/2008, -7/+2Are you really going to debate about journalistic skill when talking about Engadget and Gizmodo? It's really pointless. There is almost 0 editorial process that occurs at either site. Have you seen how many typos they have. I like the engadget comment system better, but Gizmodo often beats them to the punch with product releases.
- roymckenzie, on 10/14/2008, -0/+10a certain awareness of the avian variety
- quomen, on 10/14/2008, -4/+10Gizmodo, Endgadget, same story.
- walterwoodsiv, on 10/14/2008, -2/+27What do you think Steve will wear?
- tketch, on 10/14/2008, -3/+7Maybe a wife beater + athletic shorts? Nah, it will be the classic black turtleneck + blue jeans. Don't forget to drink your shot!
- adammachin, on 10/14/2008, -4/+3maybe he will wear a white one as a joke ? he's such a sexy guy!
- slappy83, on 10/14/2008, -2/+33Maybe he'll wear some leather chaps with the ass cut out and have a name tag that says "Mr. Happytits".
- roymckenzie, on 10/14/2008, -1/+4haha
- batkins, on 10/14/2008, -2/+1Strictly gucci.
- cthellis, on 10/14/2008, -2/+1...his heart on his sleeve?
- MtheoryX, on 10/14/2008, -1/+2Pink crocs.
- tketch, on 10/14/2008, -7/+6I love Engadget! They always have more pics & quicker info than everybody else. (But everyone who isn't a n00b knows they secretly want to make love with these new laptops more than the biggest fan boy).
- esellerauction, on 10/14/2008, -2/+5Cant wait to see the brick.
- Elranzer, on 10/14/2008, -0/+6You're in for a disappointment.
- skigil, on 10/14/2008, -0/+6...Interesting. Ryan Block is covering this with Josh. Should be a good show. Thanks guys, keep up the good work!
- gcnaddict, on 10/14/2008, -12/+13http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/images/hol ...
I do believe this is appropriate.- grodrigu, on 10/14/2008, -4/+3Everyone else does not agree.
- AnthonyFTMFW, on 10/14/2008, -2/+3Maddox rules. ***** you.
- lazyslacker, on 10/14/2008, -1/+3I'MGOINGTOCUMI'MGOINGTOCUMI'MGOINGTOCUMI'MGOINGTOCUMI'MGOINGTOCUM
- grodrigu, on 10/14/2008, -4/+3Everyone else does not agree.
- hamstix, on 10/14/2008, -1/+5Wow, live comments.
- theguynextdoor, on 10/14/2008, -7/+2first? dope..
- michaelphw, on 10/14/2008, -2/+27Time for the $800 MacBook rumor to be destroyed. Why do I put myself through this torment of hope...
- Elranzer, on 10/14/2008, -0/+6Looks like the "new MacBook" is really just the 13" MacBook Pro. Why else would they still keep the old plastic model around?
- cthellis, on 10/14/2008, -0/+1To... um... have a cheaper model?
- mythicflux, on 10/14/2008, -1/+7And the older MacBook design (white plastic) was only dropped to $999. Apple seems to just really hate the idea of actually gaining huge chunks of marketshare and really impacting the market.
- Elranzer, on 10/14/2008, -0/+6$999 is their idea of "sub-$1000" (just like I predicted a few days ago).
- kidlinux, on 10/14/2008, -9/+1Yeah, because their growth and innovation hasn't far surpassed that of the industry or anything.
- Elranzer, on 10/14/2008, -0/+6Looks like the "new MacBook" is really just the 13" MacBook Pro. Why else would they still keep the old plastic model around?
- scrambled, on 10/14/2008, -0/+9Will there be a live stream somewhere?
- PhillyMJS, on 10/14/2008, -0/+2No live video, but typically Apple posts a replay of the event later in the evening on the same day.
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- skemez1, on 10/14/2008, -6/+2I put together a list of sites that will be live blogging as well as some links to video and audio
http://digg.com/apple/Apple_Oct_14th_event_LIVE_Vi ... - dcollins, on 10/14/2008, -4/+5If you want to make a quick 10%, short some AAPL stock. It always gets overvalued right before these releases because people buy it up hoping they will release a new iPhone or something. Play the odds: don't play on hope.
On an unrelated note, I really hope this $800 portable is for real.- cthellis, on 10/14/2008, -0/+1Nope.
- cthellis, on 10/14/2008, -0/+1...unless you're overpaying for an iPod. ;-)
- MetalHaze, on 10/14/2008, -2/+12Random thought for the day while we wait....
Isn't "Live Blogging" an oxymoron?
I mean it's not really "live" in the true sense of the word. It's just that during an event like this there are shorter time intervals between blog posts. It's more like "Fast Blogging" instead of "Live Blogging"
Live blogging would have to be a video of the event as it happens or a screen capture of the writer's screen as he types the blog posts. Now that is live! - hamstix, on 10/14/2008, -9/+210:15AM "We discovered if we started with a thick piece of aluminum we could make a lighter and stronger part." "So we make it from a solid piece of aluminum." Uh huh... Brickish.
- matters5, on 10/14/2008, -6/+2Anyone have a link to live audio?
- MyDiggIsBig, on 10/14/2008, -3/+1192k link? lol. no sorry. reminds me of listening to ASOT online.
- rickyx2001, on 10/14/2008, -6/+2Yum, big multi-touch trackpad.
- cadmiumpaint, on 10/14/2008, -6/+2this is pretty interesting. Apple is going after gamers, and once again is innovating with its products. thta unibody construction is nice, and i like how the process recycles the material they bore out.
A multi touch keypad with software controllable virtual buttons. very interesting.
i guess the rumors where right....they're going with that ugly two tone MBP.- Elranzer, on 10/14/2008, -3/+4Gamers need more than one mouse button
(NO, SOFTWARE-BASED SECONDARY BUTTONS ARE NOT PRACTICAL FOR GAMING!!!)- cadmiumpaint, on 10/14/2008, -1/+3because plugging in a mouse of your choice via USB is so difficult?
- CCB0x45, on 10/14/2008, -1/+2and what is wrong with 2 finger click, I use it on my current macbook pro(2 fingers, then click for right click) and its much nicer than 2 buttons, imho... I dont see how it would be any different. I dual boot XP on it and play games using that just fine.
- cthellis, on 10/14/2008, -2/+1What kind of an idiot are you? Mechanical buttons with dedicated pathways are not going to be ZOMG SO MUCH FASTAR!!!
All it means is you have one mechanical press, but since the software can register one-, two-, three-, and four-fingered gestures on the trackpad, you can assign them how you will.
In fact, this will be better for gamers (not that gamers use Macs), because it puts all the options right there in front of you, for "left-clicking" (one finger), "right-clicking" (two fingers), and three fingers to, say, zoom your weapon (uh oh, where is the other mechanical button?), and four fingers to teabag your enemy's corpse ( ;-) ).
In fact, since it should also be able to register surface taps as well as full clicks, that gives you basically eight "buttons" you don't have to go anywhere for, right on the larger touchpad interface. - cthellis, on 10/14/2008, -0/+1As well, and I can't believe I'm pointing this out... BUTTONS are not the annoying factor for gamers with laptops. The trackpads THEMSELVES are.
Gamers use MICE. And if you're not a serious enough gamer that a trackpad will be perfectly acceptable to you, then you'll have no issues with whatever form the buttons take.
- Elranzer, on 10/14/2008, -3/+4Gamers need more than one mouse button
- MyDiggIsBig, on 10/14/2008, -4/+2but can you play such games on Mac? i thought you couldn't, but I really don't know. can someone answer.
- Proctor, on 10/14/2008, -2/+2Boot Camp.
- Elranzer, on 10/14/2008, -1/+5You might as well just buy a PC laptop with the same specs for half the price.
- whahaa, on 10/14/2008, -1/+2yes, and you can also paint flames on it.
- counterplex, on 10/14/2008, -1/+2Yes you can. If you're asking whether you can play such games on OSX, that's a different story.
- Proctor, on 10/14/2008, -2/+2Boot Camp.
- VirtuallyReady, on 10/14/2008, -4/+1Keeping up on updates via MacWorld, Engadget & with Cali Lewis stream http://www.ustream.tv/channel/on-location-with-cal ...
- diggface5000, on 10/14/2008, -3/+2Giant trackpad = tiny keyboard? And why do the designs continue to get more masculine. I'm sticking to my white bubbly imac!
- Elranzer, on 10/14/2008, -3/+2No. Giant Trackpad = No button.
Steve Jobs hates buttons.- kelly, on 10/14/2008, -0/+4The giant trackpad IS a button... one that actually clicks
- Elranzer, on 10/14/2008, -0/+4It's like a ***** version of the PowerMac G4 mouse (pre-Mighty Mosue) where the whole mouse was the button.... but even ***** cuz you can't replace it.
- AndrewLeon, on 10/14/2008, -2/+3dude.... seriously?
you can replace it with any USB mouse.. - cthellis, on 10/14/2008, -0/+2Well, first off, you anyone disappointed with it can always use a mouse with their laptop, as usual. (Which will always be the more versatile and sensitive input method.)
Second, it's now like the click-wheel on iPods, where the tracking surface is also the mechanical device. Only in the MB's case, it can also register up to four-fingered gestures... which means up to four-fingered clicks, too.
Why limit yourself to "mere" left- and right-clicks while you can make a bigger trackpad AND add more kinds of button presses? ;-)
- Elranzer, on 10/14/2008, -3/+2No. Giant Trackpad = No button.
- Elpants, on 10/14/2008, -2/+18Two tone MBP is hands down the ugliest laptop they have made.
- Elranzer, on 10/14/2008, -1/+7Reflective display. Two-tone done wrong. Smooth, no-traction trackpad. NO MOUSE BUTTONS. More expensive.
Seriously, Apple's laptops have gotten worse and worse since they left the PowerBooks. This one is more like the actual P-P-P-Powerboook!! - Macskeeball, on 10/14/2008, -0/+3Actually, this *isn't* the ugliest laptop they've made. That would be the Apple Portable: http://homepage.mac.com/donnadb/iblog/B916639406/E ...
- Elranzer, on 10/14/2008, -1/+7Reflective display. Two-tone done wrong. Smooth, no-traction trackpad. NO MOUSE BUTTONS. More expensive.
- MyDiggIsBig, on 10/14/2008, -1/+7The first, $1999, 15.4 inch display, 2.4GHz Core 2 Duo, 2GB of DDR3 RAM, NVIDIA 9400 and 9600. We have a second config at $2499, you get a faster CPU with double cache, 4GB RAM, double graphics memory, 320GB hard drive."
- nikhil1986, on 10/14/2008, -1/+3Shocking.
- Elranzer, on 10/14/2008, -0/+10Looks like prices are going up. Disappointing show so far.
- AlexanderBlue, on 10/14/2008, -0/+2Why isn't there a quad core option?
- hmphargh, on 10/14/2008, -0/+13I read that whole thing in reverse. I'm such a failure at life.
- MyDiggIsBig, on 10/14/2008, -2/+2me too.
- rickyx2001, on 10/14/2008, -2/+21wayyy too expensive.
- kelly, on 10/14/2008, -7/+6Yet less expensive that an equally equipped PC
- Elranzer, on 10/14/2008, -3/+8No.
- kelly, on 10/14/2008, -8/+5Yes.
Macs have fewer options to buy less and spend less. That is the area where the PC excels. Lowest price (albeit within a limited scope of options to choose from) is where Apple excels.
A PC only costs less when it is equipped with less or equipped differently than a Mac. When equipped equally, it typically costs the same at best or more at worst.
Whenever a comparison is made (even a DIY) with the PC come up for less money there is ALWAYS some differences between the supposed "equal" comparison. - Shadoblak, on 10/14/2008, -1/+6Except that PCs are always on sale...On a good day I can get a PC with mac-like specs for about 500 bucks...
- kelly, on 10/14/2008, -7/+6Yet less expensive that an equally equipped PC
- MyDiggIsBig, on 10/14/2008, -2/+8lolzor. 800$ huh? haha
- AppleGeorge, on 10/14/2008, -4/+20
- jakem1, on 10/14/2008, -2/+9Wow, someone has a chip on his shoulder.
- fanclerks, on 10/14/2008, -0/+7I'm torn between digging you up for being right and digging you down because you're acting like an asshat. I think I'll do neither.
- JoshuaGross, on 10/14/2008, -2/+2Yeah, dugg down for extreme anger.
- batkins, on 10/14/2008, -7/+2I'm not in the market for an laptop cuz i just bought an imac a month ago but damn those mbp's look dope.
- jamaph, on 10/14/2008, -0/+2dope.
- omgitsmit, on 10/14/2008, -7/+3... but can it run crysis?
- cerealjynx, on 10/14/2008, -1/+12Hah, the only thing close to the $800 rumor is a 24" display!
/broke - nikhil1986, on 10/14/2008, -3/+10"So 24-inch LED backlit display, 1920 x 1200 resolution, stereo speakers... everything you need for $899, available in November."
There's your $899 'Macbook' folks. Now move on. There is way more to life than buying into Apple rumours each time around.- cerealjynx, on 10/14/2008, -2/+6No, the $999 macbook is the $899 macbook
- BossKey, on 10/14/2008, -5/+2You just reported on their new DESKTOP MONITOR. Read it again, for comprehension...
- nikhil1986, on 10/14/2008, -0/+7Thats the whole point dude, I reported on the $899 MONITOR. Everyone was talking about the $899 MacBook. Instead he throws us a crappy $999 old Macbook 1 GB version. I could get a DELL XPS, 2.0 Ghz Core2Duo, 3GB Ram for the same price. I own a MacBook and love it, but its ridiculous the ***** Apple gets away with.
- Shanks08, on 10/14/2008, -2/+4I've liked most things so far...
- jakem1, on 10/14/2008, -0/+5You must be a pretty open-minded person then. How do you feel about chilli-flavoured chocolate?
- Soup4Brains, on 10/14/2008, -2/+13Holy crap the Air is overpriced. And I can't believe the regular Macbook is only dropping a hundred bucks in price after all this time. Looks like I'm sticking with my Asus notebook for awhile.
- jamaph, on 10/14/2008, -0/+3For real!
The $100 price drop is null. I bought my white entry level MacBook during the back to school deals of fall 2006. It was $999, and I got a free printer. What gives?
Not to mention the tech is old and outdated after a year. They could have brought it down to $800.
It is however about time to upgrade, and the revised MacBooks are attractive...
- jamaph, on 10/14/2008, -0/+3For real!
- harryterry, on 10/14/2008, -0/+10macbook is a mini MBP
yet $1299/$1599.... - mmockett, on 10/14/2008, -1/+12Underwhelming really... They hype machine really does need to stfu because it breeds nothing but disappointment.
- boneit, on 10/14/2008, -2/+3I would have said the hype wagon was pretty quiet this time around. Nothing much in today's announcements. A netbook or tablet would have stirred things up, but this is just a boring same ol' same update. That black keyboard is pretty ugly for my tastes. Maybe it looks better in the flesh? Nothing to open my wallet anyway.
- jamaph, on 10/14/2008, -0/+2Nah man there were a lot of leaks. I didn't pay very much attention this time around, and still managed to see blurry casing photos, and whispers of cheaper revised notebooks.
It uncommon for so many pics to be released. Apple has some rotten apples in the basket - boneit, on 10/14/2008, -0/+2leaks != hype. Few people seemed to be excited by them this time. No one really cares how they fab the shell, which seems to be the biggest news today. I got the impression the only excitement was over the "brick", which was assumed to be a new product.
Maybe Apple are using the leaks for promotion. You don't here about them telling sites to remove them any more. - jakem1, on 10/14/2008, -0/+2They have a big, heavily publicised event to announce new products and you think the hype wagon is quiet???
- jamaph, on 10/14/2008, -0/+2Nah man there were a lot of leaks. I didn't pay very much attention this time around, and still managed to see blurry casing photos, and whispers of cheaper revised notebooks.
- boneit, on 10/14/2008, -2/+3I would have said the hype wagon was pretty quiet this time around. Nothing much in today's announcements. A netbook or tablet would have stirred things up, but this is just a boring same ol' same update. That black keyboard is pretty ugly for my tastes. Maybe it looks better in the flesh? Nothing to open my wallet anyway.
- tcptennis, on 10/14/2008, -9/+2I'm pretty sure Steve Jobs just has a time machine and brings stuff back from the future and sells it to us dumb folk
- jakem1, on 10/14/2008, -0/+3If that's true then the future must be pretty bleak.
- Elpants, on 10/14/2008, -0/+19"This is the most eco friendly MacBook ever in the history of human existence."
Damn those cavemen and their o-zone destroying macbooks.- jamaph, on 10/14/2008, -0/+3It's not so easy a caveman can't do it.
- nikhil1986, on 10/14/2008, -4/+17These prices are *****. $999 for the OLD white macbook??? Apple is really starting to annoy me. I can get a top of the line Dell XPS for the same price but with WAY more hardware.
- kelly, on 10/14/2008, -8/+3Way more in some areas and way less in others.
PCs only cost less when you get less or get different. When a PC is equipped with the same specs in hardware software and equal OS... they are always more expensive.- Balanced, on 10/14/2008, -0/+3I'd say it's more "usually" than always. The price myth is, well, a myth, but it's sometimes true in certain cases.
- cthellis, on 10/14/2008, -1/+4"Always"? Hardly. But indeed the price delta is not as great as everyone likes to trot out.
They still should have pushed the old MacBook a bit lower. (Everyone was expecting $899 it would actually BE "under-$1000" not "at $1000.")
- kelly, on 10/14/2008, -8/+3Way more in some areas and way less in others.
- NitrousFlare, on 10/14/2008, -2/+8Ahhhh...
Just bought a mbp.
*****.- svensksvamp, on 10/14/2008, -0/+6Return it?
- BossKey, on 10/14/2008, -0/+3Are you within the return/exchange/price guarantee period specified on the receipt? I have used that to my advantage in the past.
- fanclerks, on 10/14/2008, -0/+314 day return policy without restocking fee...
- MyDiggIsBig, on 10/14/2008, -3/+3bust
- malibusurf, on 10/14/2008, -2/+51599 for the macbook without the dedicated graphics? il pass.
and what about the most important issue for a "Pro" level notebook... the (relatively) low screen resolution of the current 15" mbp? - Proctor, on 10/14/2008, -8/+6Trackpad with no click button is quite possibly the worst thing Apple could've done. It ***** up so hard all of the time if your finger jumps or slips. I wouldn't buy one if it was $200 with no click button.
- kelly, on 10/14/2008, -3/+4The track bad is a clickable button.
- Proctor, on 10/14/2008, -1/+7still, ***** stupid.
- AndrewWiggin, on 10/14/2008, -1/+3How is glass clickable? I hope you're right because I hate using the trackpad to click (I always turn it off).
EDIT: Please don't digg me down unless you know a way to make glass clickable.
- cthellis, on 10/14/2008, -1/+2The trackpad itself is clickable, which makes it kind of like the click-wheel on iPods. In this case, it allows you to dedicate more room to the trackpad itself and give it a larger surface and scanning area.
It also allows them some neater tricks, including the fact that since it had multi-touch built in, it can register one-, two-, three- and four-fingered gestures and clicks.
Overall, that gives it more size, versatility, and ease-of-use than any other laptop trackpad I've seen.- jakem1, on 10/14/2008, -0/+6"Overall, that gives it more size, versatility, and ease-of-use than any other laptop trackpad I've seen."
That's a pretty big claim for something you've never even used. - cthellis, on 10/14/2008, -0/+2One can measure the size, and one can take in the specs. Unless it completely FAILS TO FUNCTION, it's pretty self-explanatory.
It's Apple, though, so there's a decent chance they won't let you customize it as much as you want in OS X itself. (Though that wouldn't stop developers from programming whatever they want, nor 3rd party apps from coming out.)
1-, 2-, 3-, and 4-finger recognition gives more options than two hardware buttons, and that's hard to argue with. And as it should be able to recognize swipes and taps and clicks with all four fingers on any part of the pad...
It doesn't appear to be a particularly big claim, all things considered.
- jakem1, on 10/14/2008, -0/+6"Overall, that gives it more size, versatility, and ease-of-use than any other laptop trackpad I've seen."
- kelly, on 10/14/2008, -3/+4The track bad is a clickable button.
- vicsvenge, on 10/14/2008, -1/+3glad I just bought a macbook lol. literally two weeks ago. not that I could wait or anything the ol ibook puked. But it's still kind of bummy. Glad to see they're still using integrated graphics on the new macbooks so it doesn't outdate mine to much. 1ghz ram is a bit ridiculous though. But I hate the new case, it looks like *****. And I thought I was the only one that hated glossy screens. Why can't they just make matte screens dammit!
- cthellis, on 10/14/2008, -0/+2Take it back now if you want. You have price protection for at LEAST 14 days, and usually they'll give you more leeway around a complete revamp like this, so you should be able to either get some money back, or be able to upgrade to the new model without any penalties.
- Kyan, on 10/14/2008, -0/+2Next time, drop by this site before you buy anything.
http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/
- zioxide, on 10/14/2008, -1/+8When did Apple make Michael Dell the head of their design department?
- boneit, on 10/14/2008, -0/+3Michael Dell, probably not. A Blue Peter art competition winner maybe?
- DulcetTone, on 10/14/2008, -5/+5re: The new MacBooks will feature a new glass multi-touch trackpad with a 39 percent larger tracking area. The entire trackpad acts as the button.
WHY OH WHY? Every implementation I've ever seen where tapping the mousepad can signal a click leads to commonplace inadvertent clicks being issued. Unless Apple has done something magic, they've broken things but GOOD with this.- Shanks08, on 10/14/2008, -0/+5You must have very heavy fingers...
- DulcetTone, on 10/14/2008, -0/+2Explain to me, please, how a system that must differentiate between clicks and drags will NEVER be wrong? This is why they ARE wrong, and often. Perhaps Apple will use better materials, but when I've run into this needless "feature" on PC laptops that had perfectly reliable hardware buttons there dedicated to the purpose, I found them unusable.
A similar issue is why the Mighty Mouse is so horrible -- it claims it can differentiate between left-and-right clicks, but it cannot do so reliably.
Hmmm... Kelly above notes that s/he thinks the entire pad is a physical button. That could be Apple's means of overcoming the issue. - Shadoblak, on 10/14/2008, -0/+2I do.
- jakem1, on 10/14/2008, -0/+2While I'll withhold final judgement until these are actually out in the wild I doubt they'd be very good for really accurate mousing. I wouldn't be surprised if the act of pressing on the trackpad to click didn't move the mouse a pixel or two.
- DulcetTone, on 10/14/2008, -0/+2Explain to me, please, how a system that must differentiate between clicks and drags will NEVER be wrong? This is why they ARE wrong, and often. Perhaps Apple will use better materials, but when I've run into this needless "feature" on PC laptops that had perfectly reliable hardware buttons there dedicated to the purpose, I found them unusable.
- BossKey, on 10/14/2008, -0/+7This is different. Like you, I hate the inadvertent clicks from trackpad taps and I have it turned off. But if you read the transcripts, on the new trackpad the whole thing depresses when you click. You get physical feedback - the trackpad IS the button, like on the new Blackberry.
- DulcetTone, on 10/14/2008, -0/+1Might work! Thanks
- cthellis, on 10/14/2008, -0/+2Light tapping can indeed lead to some issues, but there's a reason that can always be turned off. In this case, a full click will usually require more pressure and purpose, so it would be harder to do inadvertently than what you're used to with that feature on laptops right now.
The proof of the pudding is in the eating, though, so we'll see. I should probably stop by an Apple store soon anyway, as I need one of those warranty replacement AC adapter things.
Do we know if the stores all have display models out now?
- Shanks08, on 10/14/2008, -0/+5You must have very heavy fingers...
- cthellis, on 10/14/2008, -3/+8"1:54 pm: Jobs puts up a slide with his blood pressure: 110/70."
Hehe...- jamaph, on 10/14/2008, -0/+2What's with that weird chuckle at the end of that post?! I lol'ed
- cthellis, on 10/14/2008, -0/+2...that I found it more chuckle-worthy than lol-worthy?
- jamaph, on 10/14/2008, -0/+2What's with that weird chuckle at the end of that post?! I lol'ed
- BrianClio, on 10/14/2008, -3/+8I had no idea Apple was capable of making such ugly laptops.
- BossKey, on 10/14/2008, -1/+4This Mac user agrees with you
- Shanks08, on 10/14/2008, -1/+5"11:01AM Q: Concern about the glossy screens. Are you going to offer another option?
A: Steve: We're going all glass -- we won't offer another version. Phil: You offset the reflection by the brightness, and consumers love it. One of the great things about a notebook is you can turn it however you want!
Yeah, nice try, but that's kind of a pain."
I will believe it when I see it!- nesagwa, on 10/14/2008, -1/+5Now theyre just lying to people. Turning the screen so that its almost closed or all the way open so the damn thing is almost flat and upping the brightness doesnt ***** work. You get glare at any angle if there is light above or behind you.
- cthellis, on 10/14/2008, -0/+2Not "angling the screen." They pretty much just mean "turning it away from something really bright that it reflects," like the sun.
Ambient light can be offset by screen brightness to a large degree, and a really bright and overriding light source usually just means turning the screen slightly.
If there's bright light right ABOVE you... Just how flat are you putting that screen? ;-)
They really should have matte, though.
- cthellis, on 10/14/2008, -0/+2Not "angling the screen." They pretty much just mean "turning it away from something really bright that it reflects," like the sun.
- cloudcity, on 10/14/2008, -1/+3Man this has me freaking vivid. I NEED a matte screen on my laptop. I have used glass before. It sucks.
- cthellis, on 10/14/2008, -0/+2There are matte overlays that seem to work well enough for the iPhone and iPod Touch. Not sure if they have good ones for the laptops as well, but I would assume so.
- raydeen, on 10/14/2008, -0/+2I would imagine you could purchase a large sheet of the screen protector material that they use for PDA's and such and that would definately reduce the glare and also protect the screen at the same time. It's sort've like a 'cling' material that has a non-adhesive stickiness to it.
- jakem1, on 10/14/2008, -0/+3livid?
- cthellis, on 10/14/2008, -0/+2No, he meant that he is strong, distinct, and clearly visible.
- nesagwa, on 10/14/2008, -1/+5Now theyre just lying to people. Turning the screen so that its almost closed or all the way open so the damn thing is almost flat and upping the brightness doesnt ***** work. You get glare at any angle if there is light above or behind you.
- Teanuh, on 10/14/2008, -4/+7People want cheaper notebooks. Apple jacks up prices. How does that make sense?
Sigh. I don't know if I want to buy one anymore. This is so disappointing.- BossKey, on 10/14/2008, -0/+2The base MacBook did go down, and the upper MacBook is more like a price drop because it has features you used to see only in the Pro model that starts at $1999.
- JohnP, on 10/14/2008, -0/+2The base Macbook price has gone UP in the UK.
- cthellis, on 10/14/2008, -0/+2Basically, they lowered the price on the low end old model MacBook (I guess not universally, but whatever), they turned the higher-end MacBooks into "smaller MacBook Pros," and they kept the higher in MacBook Pros in the same area they've been at.
It looks like they're trying to unify the line and move the customers to a higher build quality, but right now don't have the production rates or diversity to supplant the lowest-end or 17" models, so they're going to be kept for a while during the transition. (I would expect to see the low-end "new MacBook" to be in the old $1100 position this time next year, a new 17" model introduced, and the old MacBook either phased out, or put in the "eMac" position and commoditized further.)
- BossKey, on 10/14/2008, -0/+2The base MacBook did go down, and the upper MacBook is more like a price drop because it has features you used to see only in the Pro model that starts at $1999.
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