- streak, on 10/28/2008, -35/+6i-l-l-e-g-a-l
- wukillabee, on 10/29/2008, -9/+19100% legal :)
- streak, on 10/29/2008, -19/+8On the contrary, installing Mac OS X on a non-Apple computer, without a license to do so, is copyright infringement. Similarly, aiding and abetting in this crime is also a crime.
- Louis11, on 10/29/2008, -13/+5@streak
Guess we should get rid of the postal service - i mean, it can be used to send bombs. - streak, on 10/29/2008, -9/+6@Louis11, may I take this moment to be offensive? You've revealed yourself to be an idiot.
- MonkeyFarts, on 10/29/2008, -0/+5streak: There's a big difference between copyright infringement and crime. This is only violating Apple's EULA for OS X. It is in no way against a law. Just like how you can't be arrested for downloading music or movies, you can't be arrested for using or even distributing OSx86. It's a civil case, not criminal. You can be sued and forced to make monetary reparations, but that's about it.
- PixelEater, on 10/29/2008, -1/+13g-r-a-y a-r-e-a
- wukillabee, on 10/29/2008, -9/+19100% legal :)
- marksands07, on 10/29/2008, -19/+11Did someone say lawsuit? ***** THE RIAA!!
- roxgod666, on 10/29/2008, -3/+20Did i just hear a douchebag? ***** YOU!!
- MadHarvey, on 10/29/2008, -1/+3Did I just hear a ***** you?
*frantically searches for "Two of my friends" meme
Disappointment abounds. :(
- MadHarvey, on 10/29/2008, -1/+3Did I just hear a ***** you?
- BlaenkDenum, on 10/29/2008, -1/+6lol, RIAA
- Elranzer, on 10/29/2008, -0/+3Did somebody say McDonald's?
- roxgod666, on 10/29/2008, -3/+20Did i just hear a douchebag? ***** YOU!!
- streak, on 10/29/2008, -14/+10I actually read this first as "Psystar introduces Blu-ray bag of dirt". Shows my prejudice, I guess!
- l0rd, on 10/29/2008, -6/+21Has anyone ever ordered anything from them?
I mean, more power to them, I like Apple, but only getting computers from them is BS.- MScrip, on 10/29/2008, -1/+8The only people who even knows about Psystar are geeks like us.
There are two types of people... those who love Apple and want them to protect their OS... and those who wish Apple would open up their OS to other computer makers.
Funny thing is, if Apple ever did open up their OS, who would really buy a computer from Psystar? We'd build it ourselves! And you can right now, as a matter of fact! (Hackintosh)
If Psystar is just doing this as a publicity stunt to try to get Apple's OS opened up... I wish them luck. Psystar is a tiny few-man operation in Florida, a relative newcomer to the computer business... versus Apple Computer, a well established, publicly traded computer company for the last 30 years.
This case might have a little more meaning if it was Dell, HP, Gateway and others making the argument... who the ***** is Psystar?- RobotBuddha, on 10/29/2008, -0/+1The nice thing about psystar is getting compatible hardware all in one place. The last time I put together a hackintosh it was a huge pain in the ass to find a fairly inexpensive motherboard that was both compatible and in stock. I know things have gotten better in that area, but it's still nice to just plonk down some money and have them do the legwork for you.
- MScrip, on 10/29/2008, -1/+8The only people who even knows about Psystar are geeks like us.
- adml_shake, on 10/29/2008, -1/+41Dugg for the picture alone.
- serif69, on 10/29/2008, -3/+11Good luck with that.
- replaysMike, on 10/29/2008, -2/+26Dugg for bag of hurt.
- chickenloco, on 10/29/2008, -14/+27I'm tired of Apple being a follower.
Come on, Apple. Step up and be an innovator.- coolesttech, on 10/29/2008, -8/+9Apple does innovate. Look at the iPhone, oh wait. That's just a small tablet pc with a phone in it... Nevermind...
- MScrip, on 10/29/2008, -2/+6Well, it's the best selling "tablet" ever. Seriously, have you ever seen a tablet PC? People always seem to want one... but they have been available for years from every manufacturer.
- jaycalgary, on 10/29/2008, -2/+6More like a Winmo phone they put OSX on.
- Elranzer, on 10/29/2008, -0/+4^ Not sure why you're getting Dugg down. A Windows Mobile device means its an ARM device running a real-time OS (WinCE or PalmOS). iPhone is an ARM device with a real-time OS. It's nothing special.
- Urkel, on 10/29/2008, -1/+10Unique Features of New Macbooks:
- Solid aluminum body so people will finally stop snapping their notebooks in half
- Gigantic trackpad because rotating pictures was impossible in the past
Unique Features of Random >$1000 Best Buy Notebooks:
- GPS
- Firewire
- HDMI
- Blu-Ray
- SD Reader
- 4GB / 320GB Standard
I love my macbook just fine, but I'm not going to pretend aesthetic design choices is better than friggin cool features.- Junior612, on 10/29/2008, -3/+2I have a white macbook simply because I wanted OS X and a laptop was easier for transportation.
The times when I use GPS I'm driving and have no need to be looking at my laptop. If I'm foot I use the GPS in my phone.
I'm not a power user. I don't edit hi-def video so I don't need high transfer rates via firewire.
I love connecting my laptop to my standard def TV via s-video and because all my movies are higher resolution than my 640x480 TV they look fine, not need for HDMI.
Because I don't have any hi-def output capabilities I don't need blu-ray.
I wish I had a card reader built in for my multiple camera cards.
Because I have no need to run windows apps on my laptop I don't need virtual machines or dual booting. Two gigs or RAM is plenty for me but Photoshop does hog when I load up 60+ photos. An SSD would be wonderful; fast and less power consumption.
I love my macbook just fine, but I'm not going to pretend that I need a lot of features just because other machines have them. - dacheetah, on 10/29/2008, -0/+5To be honest, I haven't ever had a problem with the accidental snapping in half og any of my laptops.
That said, a solid aluminium frame may have prevented the screen on what is now my webserver from getting a crack that spans most of the display area. But then, not dropping it would have been a good idea also. - akeldama, on 10/29/2008, -0/+4Junior612, hear that sound? It's Urkel's point whizzing by your head totally escaping you. So you're glad you paid much more money for far less features?
Just because you don't need Firewire, Blu-Ray, SD reader, GPS, HDMI, 4GB of RAM or 320GB of storage doesn't mean that for the exorbitant price you paid you shouldn't have gotten them.
- Junior612, on 10/29/2008, -3/+2I have a white macbook simply because I wanted OS X and a laptop was easier for transportation.
- cavar, on 10/29/2008, -1/+2Someone said recently, Apple sometimes comes late to the party but often leaves with the hottest girl.
- coolesttech, on 10/29/2008, -8/+9Apple does innovate. Look at the iPhone, oh wait. That's just a small tablet pc with a phone in it... Nevermind...
- vrikis, on 10/29/2008, -16/+7So what? I can build my own hackintosh computer right now if I wanted and have it for even cheaper (find the parts cheaper online, not pay for osX, not pay Psystar tax) but to be honest, it's not worth it. If I really want a Mac experience, I'll go out and get a Mac (which I did, and it's being shipped right now). I could have bought an uber gaming machine and an eeePC for on the go for the same price as my MacBook, but paying the extra cash is worth it IMO...
- wukillabee, on 10/29/2008, -11/+14o so you like paying the apple tax instead of psystar tax?
anyways heres an HP running front row and the whole shebang:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SImhbq0EYdw
whats this "experience" you speak of? sitting in front of a starbucks all smugly like?- vrikis, on 10/29/2008, -1/+2Don't even start with HP machines, they suck. I completely agree with what Leo Laporte said the other week, never buy an HP laptop. I know not a single person whos had one alive for more than 2 years. Their batteries are always crap, they overheat, they are badly built... list goes on and on
- sleazycheese, on 10/29/2008, -0/+0Dugg for calling this pretentious ***** out.
- umbolo, on 10/29/2008, -2/+6Have you ever build Hackintosh? I'll agree that it need some preparation to build such PC (choosing components, deciding which CD to use, reading setup instructions), but with so many good Hackintosh forums you can basically learn all that in one or two afternoons - it's bloody simple.
Both me and many of my friends have running Hackintoshes and they work GREAT. There's no crippling of so called "Mac experience" (except saving lots of money).
There are certain MBO / GPU combos which will give you practically hassle free OS X installation - for example on my system it was way faster and easier to setup OS X than Windows XP. - archer75, on 10/29/2008, -1/+4Just got a shiny new Geforce 9800GTX for my hackintosh. Working great!
- vrikis, on 10/29/2008, -1/+2Actually, yeah I have had a hackintosh and it sucked to be honest. Then I tried it again. Still sucked. It just didn't run as smooth as I wanted it too. Yeah maybe if I built a specific hackintosh PC then it would run smooth, but whats the point then?
- sleazycheese, on 10/29/2008, -0/+0Wasn't as smooth? That's inadequate hardware.
What's the point? Saving a few hundred or thousand dollars.
Only downside? Less smug.
- sleazycheese, on 10/29/2008, -0/+0Wasn't as smooth? That's inadequate hardware.
- wukillabee, on 10/29/2008, -11/+14o so you like paying the apple tax instead of psystar tax?
- iamjero, on 10/29/2008, -15/+42Love this company and the message they send out.
Apple Tax FTL. - JHB800, on 10/29/2008, -2/+9Will these even work with OSX? As far as I know, OSX does not support Blu-ray, even through external drives.
- streak, on 10/29/2008, -0/+9You can buy a 4X* internal blu-ray burner made by LG for under $200**. Use it with a Mac for burning DVDs "as is" or fork out a few more bucks for Toast to burn blu-ray discs.
*Average speed is more like 2X with a peak of 4X.
**SATA interface may require ATA-SATA adapter for ~$20.- qpid, on 10/29/2008, -1/+11But it still won't support blu-ray playback :(
that's what I'm looking for - streak, on 10/29/2008, -0/+9@qpid: Right. The Mac doesn't currently support HDCP... and the Psystar system isn't going to do this either.
- edicius, on 10/29/2008, -2/+9Why would you pay for toast when you're bootlegging your computer?
- qpid, on 10/29/2008, -1/+11But it still won't support blu-ray playback :(
- Altotus, on 10/29/2008, -0/+18You can use them for anything but video playback. Sony is currently refusing to license AACS to Apple without Apple first making modifications to the OS X kernel (namely because they want to secure AACS versus tampering at the lowest possible level). That spat has been going on for some time. Psystar isn't adding anything there.
- Elranzer, on 10/29/2008, -0/+2Kinda odd about all this, since Apple is part of the Blu-Ray Association and all.
http://www.blu-raydisc.com/en/about/SupportingComp ... - Altotus, on 10/29/2008, -0/+2Unfortunately, you don't get licenses for being a member. It's not that Apple couldn't deliver Blue-Ray support, it's that to do so they need a license, and to get that license the patent license holder, Sony, has some pretty stiff demands that Apple doesn't want to answer to.
- Elranzer, on 10/29/2008, -0/+2Kinda odd about all this, since Apple is part of the Blu-Ray Association and all.
- MScrip, on 10/29/2008, -3/+2PS3 ?
- streak, on 10/29/2008, -0/+9You can buy a 4X* internal blu-ray burner made by LG for under $200**. Use it with a Mac for burning DVDs "as is" or fork out a few more bucks for Toast to burn blu-ray discs.
- astrobela, on 10/29/2008, -12/+3Psystar: I accidentally Apple's plans.
- elister, on 10/29/2008, -3/+6I heard the CEO of Psystar is like 22 or something. How old was Steve Jobs when he started selling the Apple?
- streak, on 10/29/2008, -5/+14A 10-year old could put together a Psystar-like system, unlike the Apple I designed and built by Steve Wosniak. Wosniak did the proper thing and obtained his employer's prior approval (HP) to independently market the computer with Steve Jobs through Apple Computer.
- lolmacs, on 10/29/2008, -15/+9Who cares. Steve actually created the company, not stole someones' plans.
- clintology, on 10/29/2008, -0/+11He was 21
- centerblack, on 10/29/2008, -2/+8Pystar puts components in a box, steals work done by the OSS community and sells it.
Yea, he sure is a knight in shining ***** armor. A real innovator. Lets put him on the cover of Time.- tigertee, on 10/29/2008, -3/+4You've never seen pirates of silicon valley have you?
They stole everything from xerox... and now your getting mad at a company doing the same to apple?
the irony, honestly! - jasmus, on 10/29/2008, -0/+5They still had to you know, actually make the code, unlike Pystar.
- centerblack, on 10/29/2008, -1/+5Tiger, the comments you've made in this thread are a testament to your ineptitude.
If Pystar was designing their own systems and OS, you might have a point. Yet all they do is pull stock parts off a shelf and put them together. That's "BUILDING" a computer, not CREATING one.
Any ***** can order 5 matching pieces of hardware off NewEgg and plug them together. Designing your own PCB, enclosure, keyboard, mouse, driver software, video driver software, etc etc etc... comparing Pystar to what Apple did in the 80's is retarded. They didn't even write the code that lets their "product" run Mac OS X, they took it from OSS.
Your obviously a moron or a troll, no point in wasting anymore time on your comments to any thread anywhere, blocked. - yardie, on 10/29/2008, -0/+2@tigertee: If you mean stole from Xerox to mean raided the entire Xerox Parc Star Research team to work at Apple the your definition of stole from Xerox would be correct. *They also bought the license from them too since Xerox didn't know what to do with it.
I don't see anyone leaving 1 Infinity Loop to work in a warehouse out of Miami though.
- tigertee, on 10/29/2008, -3/+4You've never seen pirates of silicon valley have you?
- christhechris, on 10/29/2008, -2/+17I think this is very misleading, the bag of hurt Stevo was referring to is the licensing to playback blu-ray....not to actually put the drive in the computer. Unless psystar magically put support into OSX for bluray...then they have done nothing new...
- mrBitch, on 10/29/2008, -0/+10Correct, license issues as well as the whole issue with having to decrypt the HDCP signal, and having to build this into the media player -- or possibly into the OS (as Vista has done).
- jwdav, on 10/29/2008, -0/+5DRM kernel extension + Licensing + HDCP + Display/Video Out compliance would be required.
If you ever wondered why some PC's have HDMI or DisplayPort instead of plain old DVI, look no further.
- jwdav, on 10/29/2008, -0/+5DRM kernel extension + Licensing + HDCP + Display/Video Out compliance would be required.
- archer75, on 10/29/2008, -1/+2You can always rip a blu ray movie and play it back on a mac as the copy protection would then be stripped out.
- Urkel, on 10/29/2008, -1/+3Offering a feature that Apple REFUSES to offer is giving us something new. I doubt I'll ever buy a Psystar but that doesn't mean the idea of an affordable OS X mid-tower with blu-ray doesn't make me drool.
- mrBitch, on 10/29/2008, -0/+10Correct, license issues as well as the whole issue with having to decrypt the HDCP signal, and having to build this into the media player -- or possibly into the OS (as Vista has done).
- sn00kie, on 10/29/2008, -3/+30They've got balls
- streak, on 10/29/2008, -3/+8Not after Apple gets done with them.
- mydigglogin, on 10/29/2008, -1/+1They'll have blu balls after that.
- AzureRise, on 10/29/2008, -0/+5THEY'VE GOT BALLS OF STEEL!
- joearchy, on 10/29/2008, -0/+3of steel
- streak, on 10/29/2008, -3/+8Not after Apple gets done with them.
- tanaciousp, on 10/29/2008, -7/+6They jus' some blu collar folks wantin' to bring some competition to the market. That's all..
- punsentinel, on 10/29/2008, -6/+4no, the computers cannot as of yet play blu-ray content. the machines can however be used to burn blu-ray discs. this feature is not unique to psystar, the drives used in their machines have been available for mac users to purchase for some time now. indeed one could build a hackintosh for cheaper than ordering a machine from psystar, but this requires a certain level of technical know-how that not everyone possesses.
i've never used a psystar machine, but i have to respect any company that is willing to take a risk and let the consumer know there are alternatives to buying apple's proprietary hardware. there are certain applications on the apple platform that are considered industry standards nowadays (final cut, etc.) and limiting people to only running this software on their hardware and at whatever price apple deems appropriate is not fair to the consumer. for all the flack microsoft receives (and rightfully so) for being a big, evil corporation, in this poster's opinion apple is no better (and considering the prices of many of their current systems, possibly worse). it's about time someone started leveling the playing field.- MScrip, on 10/29/2008, -0/+5> "willing to take a risk and let the consumer know there are alternatives to buying apple's proprietary hardware."
How are they letting people know? The only people who even know about Psystar are people on Digg. It's not like they will ever be sold in the next aisle at Best Buy.
Apple has been in business for 32 years, HP 69 years, Dell 24 years. Psystar 1 year. Nothing will ever come from this.
Psystar doesn't have deep enough pockets to battle Apple. Call Apple an evil corporation, monopoly, whatever. It's their monopoly to have. Their OS, their hardware, their choice. They wrote the EULA.
Hey Psystar... don't like it? Write your own OS. Don't buy copies of Apple's software and sell it on your own machines. The only bag of hurt will be when Apple shuts down Psystar's two-bit operation in Florida.- tigertee, on 10/29/2008, -0/+2see mac users are so narrow minded use mscrip as an example.
From that famous scene of pirates in silicon valley.
Steve Jobs "were better then you, will always be better then you"
Bill Gates "you don't get it, that doesn't matter"
honestly, the mac os needs to run on third party hardware, im sick and tired of keynote speeches about them releasing new laptops... honestly... who the hell cares! - punsentinel, on 10/29/2008, -0/+2actually, i've read articles on a variety of websites beyond digg regarding psystar. indeed, in one of these articles i even read how apple recently chose to enter arbitration with psystar when faced with a counter-suit on antitrust claims rather than let the matter be decided in open court where it might affect their image in a negative fashion.
anyway, when it all comes down to it, it's all basically the same hardware. a quick visit to the psystar homepage reveals that they offer their systems in a variety of flavors; windows, linux, and osx. and why not? the systems all run essentially the same hardware. sure, apple puts it in a pretty box and throws a fruit on it, but at the end of the day it's still an intel chip, et. all.
congrats to apple on developing a quality os and many unique applications and what is obviously a devoted fanbase. but at the end of the day it must be acknowledged that they're ripping people off. innovation should not come at such an extreme cost to the consumer. long live an open and free hardware market. - MScrip, on 10/29/2008, -0/+2> "see mac users are so narrow minded use mscrip as an example."
I'm using a 7 year old Gateway computer running XP. I don't even have a Mac.
But I do believe that Apple has spend 30 years developing their brand, image and software, and they don't want anyone else to ruin it. Apple wants to supply the OS, software and hardware... why shouldn't they be able to? If you don't like their rules, don't use an Apple OS.
Microsoft started out writing software for all computers. That was their deal... every computer in the world running their software. That's how Microsoft created one of the greatest fortunes in the history of the world.
Apple wrote software for their own hardware... and wanted to sell the whole package. They started out selling complete computers, not just software.
Go ahead... you "can" install OSX on any machine, but Apple won't support it, nor endorse it. And they don't have to. That was their decision from the start. They never wanted to sell just an OS, and they shouldn't be forced too either.
Pirates of Silicon Valley is a great movie, huh. The fundamental difference between Microsoft and Apple... Microsoft wanted to license their OS... Apple did not: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcWjOodAtoE#t=1m36s
- tigertee, on 10/29/2008, -0/+2see mac users are so narrow minded use mscrip as an example.
- jasmus, on 10/29/2008, -0/+3From what I gather, Pystar's "loophole" is that they aren't installing the OS before they ship the system. This means end users must install OSX onto their own system. People who are confident enough to do that, are more than likely also confident enough to put the system together in the first place.
- punsentinel, on 10/29/2008, -1/+0sticking a disc in your drive and letting the automated installer run its course requires nothing more than patience, not technical skill.
- MScrip, on 10/29/2008, -0/+5> "willing to take a risk and let the consumer know there are alternatives to buying apple's proprietary hardware."
- tomis, on 10/29/2008, -5/+11Can I buy one of their machines, pop my retail MacOS X DVD in and be good-to-go? Until that happens, Apple has nothing to worry about.
- Elranzer, on 10/29/2008, -0/+2One day, when EFI motherboards become more mainstream...
- meghalc, on 10/29/2008, -9/+12They got some balls. I'm impressed.
I hope they win the lawsuite!!! If they do, there will be clones all over the place! :)
To Mac Fanboys:
More clones=more price drop for Apple- dmark77, on 10/29/2008, -1/+8We already played this game (legally) in the mid-90's.
-Power Computing
-UMAX
-Motorola
Didn't work, but were sweet ass BeOS systems.- jonnyamsterdam, on 10/29/2008, -0/+2Holy cow, I haven't thought about BeOS in years. What a great OS.
- centerblack, on 10/29/2008, -2/+5I don't mind paying $1500 every 4 years, I have a job and I get a warranty.
- tigertee, on 10/29/2008, -2/+2my sony vaio i bought 3 years ago is running like a champ, if upgraded the video card twice and can still basically play all the current games, parts are dirt cheap for it.
But as a pc user, i guess i am less afraid to fix my own problems.... - centerblack, on 10/29/2008, -2/+3Oh gawd, give me a ***** break. I've built several PC's over the past few years too. Big ***** deal.
I've designed my own digital guitar effects box based on a Spartan3 FPGA. When I got an e46 without NAV, I missed the trip computer from my e36 so I created my own using an AVR, a digital compass, an LCD screen that matches the interior lighting and a GPS receiver + code.
This idea that Mac users are somehow retards who don't know what a screwdriver is is a fallacy. The fact that you can buy some ***** from NewEgg and put the round peg in the round hole does not make you a technical genius or qualified to do anything more difficult than wipe your own ass.
Put that ***** on your resume for me, "I'M A PC USER", I'll make you an instant hire, I'm sure.
- tigertee, on 10/29/2008, -2/+2my sony vaio i bought 3 years ago is running like a champ, if upgraded the video card twice and can still basically play all the current games, parts are dirt cheap for it.
- dmark77, on 10/29/2008, -1/+8We already played this game (legally) in the mid-90's.
- kenvsryu, on 10/29/2008, -11/+18It's funny how Jobs is now against DRM but it helped him conquer with the iPod. Also iTunes music still have DRM. Hyporcite turtleneck wearer.
- axcess99, on 10/29/2008, -2/+8I don't quite see DRM as what lead to the ipod dominance. That would only be true only if people were out there saying they wanted a Zune (for example) but were forgoing it because they couldn't play their music on it. I'm not saying the it hasn't kept a couple people from exploring a bit, but most ipod owners are not yearning for non-ipod/iphone mp3 player. It is dominant because it was aesthetically pleasing and the combined itunes+ipod experience was better than any competition at the time.
- innesfactor, on 10/29/2008, -1/+8Actually, its not Apple's fault that iTunes still has DRM. Music companies are only dealing music to the iTunes store that way in a lame attempt to stifle iTunes dominance. It probably wouldn't be a big deal to them except for the fact that the music labels want to sell songs for more than a dollar - but Job's & Co. resist that- hence the (futile) struggle to weaken iTunes.
- MacParrot, on 10/29/2008, -1/+4You really don't understand how iTunes, Amazon, and the big four studios operate do you? They are scared beyond belief that Apple is so dominate in selling music. So frightened that they actually permitted Amazon (and now Walmart apparently) to sell their content without DRM. Neither Apple or Amazon have any say in whether or not they can sell it with or without DRM.
Don't believe for a second that they would have done this without the dominance of iTunes
- jasmus, on 10/29/2008, -8/+4This just in: Company puts a Blue-Ray drive in a PC!!!
*high singing* In the year 2000.......- archer75, on 10/29/2008, -6/+6Macs ARE PC's.
- jasmus, on 10/29/2008, -0/+4Never said they weren't....
- MemphisExNoel, on 10/29/2008, -1/+2I just dont understand why people bury comments for their truthfulness... YES Macs ARE PCs FANBOYS....GET OVER IT
- archer75, on 10/29/2008, -6/+6Macs ARE PC's.
- archer75, on 10/29/2008, -0/+4Sure it will. Rip it and play it.
- briLo, on 10/29/2008, -1/+23So you can buy a Psystar machine running OS X with a Blu-Ray player only to have to virtually run Windows to view the Blu-Ray movie??!?? That's ***** great!!!!!
- archer75, on 10/29/2008, -2/+4most people don't watch movies on their computers. You can backup your data to it. Or just rip the movie to your hard drive and play it there.
- MadHarvey, on 10/29/2008, -2/+7There are two kinds of people who pay the premium for Blu-Ray drives in their computer:
1. People who watch movies on their computer
2. Idiots
Choose wisely
- MadHarvey, on 10/29/2008, -2/+7There are two kinds of people who pay the premium for Blu-Ray drives in their computer:
- archer75, on 10/29/2008, -2/+4most people don't watch movies on their computers. You can backup your data to it. Or just rip the movie to your hard drive and play it there.
- PrometheusBorn, on 10/29/2008, -2/+5I'm still not convinced that I want to dish out the money for my home theatre system, and at least that has some tangible value associated with the extra money I have to spend.
Why exactly do I need Bluray for my computer? Backup data on an overpriced disk instead of cheaper, more convenient hard drives or dirt cheap DVDs? Burn it to a format that few people can read from? Make some High Def home movies that are going to look like crap anyway because I'm not into professional video? Play all those games that are ONLY available on Blu Ray? Have a pissing contest with my PC fan boi neighbor on who has the coolest hardware?
If I've missed something, please let me know. Otherwise, I'll put my money into something that matters. - doublejay1973, on 10/29/2008, -3/+7interestingly, when the PC was first cloned, the market exploded as people jumped at the chance to get a cheaper but compatible version of the IBM PC. Psystar's modest success suggest that Apple buyers prefer to pay more for a sleek white box than does the same thing.
- ZenMojo, on 10/29/2008, -2/+6Psystar's still in lawsuit. And, yeah, most Apple people don't know any better.
- n0c0ntr0l, on 10/29/2008, -0/+4Apple people generally don't want to know how their computer works, just that it works. Pull up the terminal to do anything (it is unix really) and they will freak.
- Elranzer, on 10/29/2008, -1/+2Not sure why you're getting Dugg down. No self-respecting computer geek would buy a Mac. Maybe back when they were the only PowerPC machines out there, and one wanted to play with Linux on PPC, but nowadays there's no hardware difference between Macs and non-Macs except for the EFI.
- ZenMojo, on 10/29/2008, -2/+6Psystar's still in lawsuit. And, yeah, most Apple people don't know any better.
- DigitAl56K, on 10/29/2008, -7/+13Mac can't play Blu-Ray already?
Dude, that is seriously weak!- MacParrot, on 10/29/2008, -2/+6Do you know why they can't. Do you actually understand the issue or is that too much to hope for?
- moduc, on 10/29/2008, -3/+3no, it's hard to understand why. By your statement, perhaps the PC groups can understand and be able to implement complex problem that Apple can't?
If it's so complex, then why it took some hacker to decode this whole thing with the spec open? Maybe the latest blu-ray spec is not, but how hard is it for Apple to license it?
I don't like too much DRM, but that is not the reason Apple can't implement it while many have done so. - MacParrot, on 10/29/2008, -1/+2There is a comment in this thread that explains exactly why Apple doesn't have the license to implement playing Blu-Ray yet
- moduc, on 10/29/2008, -3/+3no, it's hard to understand why. By your statement, perhaps the PC groups can understand and be able to implement complex problem that Apple can't?
- reformation, on 10/29/2008, -1/+3Moron
- MacParrot, on 10/29/2008, -2/+6Do you know why they can't. Do you actually understand the issue or is that too much to hope for?
- tomarocco, on 10/29/2008, -1/+3Psystar gives me warm fuzzies.
- AzureRise, on 10/29/2008, -1/+2Has anyone bought anything from these games? Is it safe? I'm thinking of buying this one and either adding the GeForce 8600 to the configuration or getting the basic one and buying an 8800 or 9800 some other time from newegg.
- the0ther, on 10/29/2008, -2/+4good for them. ***** apple and ***** the control freaks that run it and the control freaks who use their products.
- supersteve, on 10/29/2008, -4/+10blu-ray is overrated
- magicmushroom73, on 10/29/2008, -1/+1Has anyone actually seen one of these working in real life or are they just Phantom releases?
- jaycalgary, on 10/29/2008, -6/+3What a parasite company Apple not Psystar. There 99% of there machines run on parts made because of Microsoft even the Iphone.
- jaycalgary, on 10/29/2008, -2/+3Go screw your selves Apple freaks. Now its Blue-Ray, who needs it, no one uses it anyways. Its modern tech and Apple is behind on the times.
- dyranios2, on 10/29/2008, -0/+3But there is no Blu-ray playback on OS X so you wouldn't be able to watch movies on them, just burn data.
- aliguana, on 10/29/2008, -0/+1reason enough to own one
- mightyhypnotoad, on 10/29/2008, -1/+1Apple needs to step up and just accept the extra licencing overheads that Blueray come with because if they don't they are going to loose a lot of thier high end customers. Who in thier right ming wan'ts to spend over two grand on a mac and then have to buy feckin'
windows and a seperate graphics card for bluray functionality? I've been waiting to upgrade to a new Mac pro for almost a year and I'll be waiting for a while yet 'cause I'll be damned If I'm gonna pay those extra premiums on top of the macs retail price just so I can get the use out of my HD camcorder. - honesttussey, on 10/30/2008, -0/+1Digg me down Apple fanboys (I have been using macs for 20 years). But all I can say is
HA! Suck it apple! You've become more like MS in the past few years with your stupid business tactics, outrageous prices, and slow pace of computer model updates (mac mini anyone). Don't even get me started on the pos AppleTV or the locked down to hell iPhone. Not including FW in the latest MB lineup b/c you want people to buy MBP. Screw off seriously. That's straight out of Bill G's playbook. I'm glad Pystar showed up and decided to play. I'm very eager to see how this unfolds.



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