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  • adisor19, on 06/27/2008, -3/+200***** YOU ROGERS ! These plans are PURE CONSUMER RAPE. We are getting royally screwed up here in Canada thanks to our pathetic government/CRTC that allowed them to buy Microcell/Fido in 2004 and thus become a GSM MONOPOLY.

    Argh !!!!

    Adi
    • Inspiron700m, on 06/28/2008, -0/+16Fido was frickn awesome...I loved being with Microcell. They actually had things RIGHT for a change...awesome customer service and decent monthly plans. Then Robbers comes alongs and bends us all over.

      iPhone 3G: Owning your soul, one person at a time for $3558.47 over 3 years! HOTNESS!

      http://www.iphoneincanada.ca/iphone-rogers/rogers- ...

      • Invid, on 06/28/2008, -0/+6Fido's customer service has steadily worsened since the takeover too. It's really too bad, they were an awesome carrier. They never had great coverage, but they were the tops if you lived in their service areas.
      • senae, on 06/28/2008, -1/+3Funny story, I used to do customer service for rogers around the time they switched Fido's billing system over. This was shortly after the CityFido plans were phased out for what were essentially finely crafted plans to financially violate anyone who mistakenly chooses one. My center (because we knew the billing system already) was switched over to Fido for a few months.

        During this time, despite the fact that we were the only non-Bilingual reps Fido had, and had no previous knowledge of Fido (I live in Nova Scotia) it'd be a rare day that any one of us wouldn't get told at least once that our service was so much better then what they'd been getting recently, and that we should show Rogers how customer service is supposed to work.

        These exclamations were usually followed by the customer talking about how they used to be with rogers, but the service was so terrible.

        Oh how we laughed.
      • Peroxyde, on 06/28/2008, -0/+3@NgrHader (Troll much?)

        I can see how we would be uptight about giving out Social Security numbers (SSNs) because we don't have them. We use Social Insurance numbers, making you the idiot of the day.
    • LouTreize, on 06/28/2008, -1/+19Sorry for hijacking but...we need all the support we can get!

      http://digg.com/politics/Bill_C_555_Get_Connected_ ...

      **Bill C-555 is aiming to eliminate extraneous wireless costs like data overages and system access fees for Canadian consumers and enterprises in the hopes of increasing adoption and overall quality of life. Best part of all? He wants all Canadian mobiles to be unlocked.**
    • MikeCerm, on 06/28/2008, -0/+6Call your MP, and tell them that if you wanted to live in a corporate oligarchy ruled by a few wealthy monopolies, that you'd move to the US.

      Actually, now that I think about it, between Rogers, Bell, Molson, and others I'm sure, it doesn't really appear that the Canadian government does much to promote competitive markets.
      • Gutterpunk, on 06/28/2008, -0/+4Molson?

        Do they have a monopoly on beer that I missed or something? Because last I checked (ie : last night, up to 3am) we have a ***** of beer maker to choose from
      • BoneheadFarker, on 06/28/2008, -0/+2I question including Molson in that group as well. Not because it's only one of many beers to choose from, but because it's now an American company...***** hosers...
      • alpha88, on 06/28/2008, -0/+2Molson is nowhere near a monopoly, but nice try.
      • MikeCerm, on 06/29/2008, -0/+1I'm not a Canadian economist, but in defense of my inclusion of Molson, according to Wikipedia:

        "Molson is part-owner of Brewers Retail Inc., operator of The Beer Store retail chain, which -- protected by legislation -- has an over 90% market share of Ontario beer sales. Molson owns 50% of Brewers Distribution Limited in Western Canada."

        So, while Molson may not be a monopoly in the strictest sense of the word, it's undeniable that they are large enough to use their size in anti-competitive ways. Meanwhile, the Canadian government doesn't really do anything to limit their influence in the market.
    • davidkeithjones, on 06/28/2008, -0/+5We need competition right now! Rogers is the only company with half decent service, we HAVE to use them.

      ***** Rogers. Also, ***** Bell, Telus and all the other pussy competitors who do nothing to up the ante.
    • xciton, on 06/28/2008, -0/+4Don't forget about ClearNET with Telus. We use to have per second billing, not any more......
    • fudged71, on 06/28/2008, -0/+1check it out: http://digg.com/tech_news/Digg_Stand_Up_Against_Ro ...
  • Arkanok, on 06/27/2008, -1/+108Rogers, I thank you, with all my heart, for ***** us Canadians. Your blatent disregard for pleasing your customers covers me in a blanket of warm fuzziness. /end sarcasm.

    No but really, ***** you Rogers.
    • mrbeagle, on 06/28/2008, -0/+7Rogers is making their internal people sign NDAs before the big launch. It's pretty obvious they expected this "***** you" reaction from consumers, but they just don't care. Who else is going to sell you 3G service in Canada?
    • MikeCerm, on 06/28/2008, -7/+4I don't get what the big deal is. Rogers has been screwing their customers forever. Are the iPhone plans that much worse than what's been available for other phones? Did people really think that Rogers, having charged insane prices for data in the past, was going to magically offer iPhone users an unlimited data plan for an affordable price? If they have no competition, why would they do that?

      Moreover, Apple customers are generally not price-sensitive (which is a fancy way of saying that they don't mind over-paying for things). I'm sure Rogers took that into account when they made their deal with Apple. Apple customers don't blink at dropping $3000 on a MacBook Pro (when the average laptop goes for under $1000). Apple users are more likely to spend more, not less than the average consumer, so why would Rogers want to cut them a break?
      • phphreak, on 06/28/2008, -3/+7Comparing a MacBook Pro to an average laptop is like comparing a cheeseburger to a kobe beef steak. (clue: the MacBook Pro ain't the cheeseburger)
      • bitterbug, on 06/28/2008, -2/+2@phpreak
        I'm not a fanboy of any particular brand, nor am I anti-Apple, as I've owned a Mini and an iPod.
        Now that I've said that, your comparison of a MacBook pro to a kobe beef steak is pretty ridiculous.
        Apple's laptop hardware is way overpriced considering that many of the component are the exact same ones used in laptops half the price. It's the OS that makes the difference.
        Though I found OSX to be a great OS, and very stable compared to others, I could not justify spending 2 or 3 grand on hardware I could get for 1200 bucks, just so I can run a 125 dollar operating system.
        Additionally the hardware issues that plague them for the first six months to a year after each new generation launches is not something I would want to deal with after paying the premium on them. Obviously many laptop lines have issues at launch, but if you're paying through the nose for the 'status' of having that macbook, it should at least have decent solder joints, or not warp/melt the keyboard area.
        Without OSX apple laptops would be substandard by most comparisons.
      • phphreak, on 06/28/2008, -0/+3You're paying for the tight integration between the OS and the Hardware with an Apple product. No viruses, no spyware, and a great software ($79 for iWork?!?!, amazing) also. My MacBook cost $1600 two years ago and is still one of the best laptops out there. Part of the cost of the MacBook is the care that goes into developing the product.

        Sorry, comparing Windows to Mac OS X is like comparing hamburger to Steak, guess which is which.
  • bujinkage, on 06/27/2008, -3/+58I cannot believe you are even trying to sell those plan. You should be ashamed of you Rogers...
    • mrmontrose, on 06/28/2008, -1/+5they don't have to sell it, they know nerd will pay whatever. Here is a plan instead of a petition just don't buy and Iphone. Then maybe they will lower prices.
    • oxthemoron, on 06/28/2008, -0/+1"iPhone packages include all the voice minutes and data you’ll need to fully benefit from the breakthrough device."

      ... Look guys... that's what it says on their site... I mean, come on, they aren't that bad. Let's be reasonable.


      ... Alright, fine, screw Rogers.
    • GeckoSlayer, on 06/28/2008, -0/+1Don't be so sad Canadians, look what us Australians are getting:

      http://www.iphoneunlockaustralia.com/images/vodafo ...

      That is *****.
    • StillAnonymous, on 06/29/2008, -0/+1They're doing you a favour. Buy a real phone and ditch that gimmicky hipster-trendo crap.
  • daridave, on 06/27/2008, -4/+56Way to ruin a dream. The iPhone could have revitalized the country's cell phone business, but NO, they're jacking up the prices like retards. Instead of f*cking up their costumers, they could let go of those 3 moron teenagers redheads they use in their ads, they'd save money and look less stupid. Switching carrier next month ...
  • rebotfc, on 06/27/2008, -2/+32***** you Rogers, and ***** you Frank Luntz too
  • adelemcalear, on 06/28/2008, -1/+25Until mobile data rates become affordable in Canada, we will be a backwater for mobile application development and devices. Mobile data is the infrastructure on which thousands of jobs and innovation is built. But sadly, not here in Canada thanks in no small part to the greed of Rogers. I await the new cellular carrier competition in 2009. Just think of the opportunities that Canadians will miss in that time. It makes me sad.
    • gotigertom, on 06/28/2008, -0/+4You can blame the the policies of the CRTC, Industry Canada, Sector Councils...all of these departments come up with ways to screw up competitive markets. It all started with Diefenbaker killing the Avro Arrrow and sending Canada's budding aviation sector (smart innovation people) to the US and elsewhere. Instead of fostering open and aggressive innovation and becoming a world power in Aviation, it took 5th place.

      Yes, as a country, we do like to offer protectionism for the oligopoly players, that were artificially financed by the RRSP (401K) laws. Brokerage sales people got rich, investor got meager returns, consumers paid higher prices and innovative people set up shop closer to their customers with wider appeal. For the mobile sector, this means smart innovators work with larger, global carriers...not third world, government protected players like Rogers and Bell. Its our own fault for not insisting on open, competitive and aggressive competition.
      • colincattral, on 06/28/2008, -0/+2The Avro Arrow was pretty sweet, but it didn't make economic sense. It's like Sweden with the SAAB fighter jets. Awesome planes, great technology, but it doesn't really make any money. Without government subsidies it would collapse. Canada was, and currently is, too small to support something so expensive.

        We are getting screwed by our cable companies though. There isn't enough competition, and most Canadians are willing to just bend over and take it.

      • BrainInAJar, on 06/28/2008, -0/+1to be fair, Lockheed and Boeing would probably collapse if the USA government weren't so war-happy.

        Diefenbaker probably killed off the Arrow to prevent the same military-industrial complex dependence that the US has, and we're almost certainly better off for it
    • Trichomonas, on 06/28/2008, -0/+3Get the HTC Touch from Bell. Unlimited data for only $7/month. It doesn't have 3G but honestly it's fast enough unless you want to stream a movie or something. The phone only costs $100 and it looks great as well. Not to mention it's highly customizable without having to "unlock" it (unlike the iPhone).
  • pradaaddict, on 06/28/2008, -4/+22I was fully prepared to pay a $380 ETF with Telus just to purchase the iPhone 3G but now these plans are making me seriously re-think it. I was going to buy two of them, one for me and one for my spouse. There is no mention of family plans and there are horrible data caps when you consider MobileMe, Youtube, picture exchange or large email attachments.

    There needs to be three options and family calling should be always unltd.

    $60 ~ 250 minutes, 200 text, untld data, caller id, visual voicemail
    $90 ~ 500 minutes, unltd text, unltd data, caller id, visual voicemail
    $120 ~ 1000 minutes, unltd text, unltd data, caller id, visual voicemail (for executive clients)
    • threepio, on 06/28/2008, -0/+16Well said. I'm in the same place - I've been a cheerleader for the iPhone since it was announced. Rogers made my decision to cancel Telus very easy today - I'm not going to do it. Until the plans are in line with the rest of the free world there will be no iPhone for me.
    • poutch, on 06/28/2008, -2/+3and evening starting @ 9pm
    • lcohiomatty86, on 06/28/2008, -4/+2is it me.. or am i the only one that realized they have a semi partly reasonable "additional data" costs. in the US any data used not on a data plan is useually about 2 cents per KILOBYTE... ya.. $20 a MEG... at least with this it is " 50¢ per MB for the first 60 MB, 3¢ per MB thereafter"........ not trying to say this company is not sucky... just wanted to point out that they are at least semi-reasonable with this.
    • senae, on 06/28/2008, -0/+4wait, what, free data before free text?

      do you have the slightest idea how much less expensive it is for any telco to support SMS then any other service? the idea that it's not free in the first place is a little insulting, actually.
    • jordn, on 06/28/2008, -0/+7You Canadians have to pay for caller ID?

      Wow.
      • ichthys, on 06/28/2008, -0/+2Yes, it's ***** bull ***** up here.
      • doyoumrjones, on 06/28/2008, -0/+47 ***** dollars a month. it boils my ***** blood.
      • bitterbug, on 06/28/2008, -0/+3Yeah, the best part is that the seven dollars pays for them to take the *block* off your account that would let you see caller ID by default.
        I skipped ID and went with voicemail only, but I treat my cellphone like an unwanted leash and rarely answer it anyway.
    • skaughtm, on 06/28/2008, -0/+1its not unlimited texting, its only 2500. theyve never offered unlimited.
  • motionblur, on 06/28/2008, -6/+28***** Rogers.

    ....and while I'm at it, ***** the RIAA and CRIA.
  • deevay, on 06/28/2008, -3/+26http://www.*****.com/
    SIGN!!! WE CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE!
    • TomTruelle, on 06/28/2008, -0/+10.....thats the original submission link

      meh, dugg anyway
    • mhender, on 06/28/2008, -0/+5Yeah right. Rogers knows people will pay up the ass for their precious stupid iPhone.
    • bundwallah, on 06/28/2008, -6/+0I clicked in the link to check it out. First off, a website name *****.com is not exactly going to get them listening. It will instead get their backs up. Too emotional of a name. Should've gone with something like goodbyerogers.com. But that's just my opinion.

      When I saw this phrase on the site "or screwing our iPhone Canadian dream" I closed the tab. If your "dream" is to own an iphone, then you deserve to get squeezed out of every $$ you have. Yes its' a cool toy and I like em too. But some things are not worth having at any price.
      • deevay, on 06/28/2008, -0/+2You obviously didn't read the site, the Mods are going to send the signatures to Rogers HQ.
  • lainwired, on 06/28/2008, -15/+1go check out my mega rant here

    http://pokerfaction.com/forum/lainwired-get-a-big- ...
    • specialK16, on 06/28/2008, -0/+5"There is the 15 dollar a month caller ID + features that sound fancy but are all just caller id like who is calling, who called, caller ring tracks. All of those are CALLER ID!!! The phones software handles the whole who called portion of it by logging calls with caller id info and the caller ring tracks is just playing separate ringtones for different callers(something the iphone does)."

      No thanks.
  • annjay, on 06/28/2008, -10/+1Interesting
  • rperran, on 06/28/2008, -1/+24The whole industry in Canada is shameful.

    There was actually ten minutes of hope with first incorrect "leaked" rate plans.

    This just makes it all that much worse.

    Is this part of the cultural heritage of being Canadian to be continually maligned by our corporate leaders?

    If it's not the Canadian banks with the worlds highest user fees, it's the oil companies charging us a 1/3 more then a gallon would even south of the border.

    Rogers, shame on you. You already own everything.
    • RadioVibes, on 06/28/2008, -2/+3Very true! It's because Canadians are so lazy to make a stink out of it and complain. They always accept everything they are handed without protest, even if it's bad for them. I'm sick of those people. I ALWAYS do something about something I dislike. I should start recording the phone calls I make to these companies when I complain to them, some of them are great, especially when I back a manager into a corner. Losers.
      • iChopPryde, on 06/28/2008, -0/+1Man you should totally do that and start uploading the conversations up on youtube it will create a lot of attention!
    • j1ggy, on 06/29/2008, -0/+1Actually we pay more for gas because of federal taxes included in the gas prices. Transportation costs also drive up costs for goods; we have a very spread out population.
  • chetanthaker, on 06/28/2008, -3/+14Sucks to be a Rogers customer
    • arobicha, on 06/28/2008, -0/+3I ***** _HATE_ rogers... Especially since they charge you out the ass for bandwidth usage!
  • DeadSkinMask, on 06/28/2008, -2/+28***** Ted Rogers...***** him in his stupid ass.
    • xero9, on 06/28/2008, -0/+4I looked up this ***** last night, and apparently he donated 15 million to Ryerson University under the condition that they rename their program to Ted Rogers School of Management.. Makes me sick

      http://www.ryerson.ca/tedrogersschool/bm/

      So ***** Ryerson too!
  • koolgiy, on 06/28/2008, -2/+15***** Rogers for being the crooks they are - ***** the CRTC/Government for doing nothing but sit idly by, while the telecom companies of Canada (who are too lazy to upgrade their infrastructure, so instead do stupid ***** like cap internet bandwidth, and charge high costs for data plans) screw us by taking large amounts of our money from fees and other ***** we didnt see on the agreement, and ***** us Canadians for putting up with it.

    Im getting sick of how both Canada and the US operate. Stupid policies - stupid government - one big pile of stupid.
    • RadioVibes, on 06/28/2008, -0/+4The CRTC is absolutely useless. They should be abolished. They do NOTHING to help or protect Canadians.
    • xciton, on 06/28/2008, -1/+0Be careful of what you want, you may just get it. More gov't involvement isn't the answer to private business issues.

      In general, less gov't is better.
  • loulan, on 06/28/2008, -8/+14They're not my friends, buddies.
  • brainscab, on 06/28/2008, -2/+27Im not Canadian but I can really appreciate how they stand up and shout at thier businesses, employers and government when things aren't going there way. we should all take a page from this
    • xerox, on 06/29/2008, -0/+1No, we don't. Thats the problem.
    • onetimeuse, on 06/29/2008, -0/+1even if you did, you'd get arrested in America.
  • mackdaddy187, on 06/28/2008, -10/+5***** you couch Rogers
  • vanguardanon, on 06/28/2008, -2/+9I'm such a sheep, I signed it just because I saw it on digg. :)
  • kenvsryu, on 06/28/2008, -16/+1Apple can't make money but Rogers can't?
  • DivisibleByZero, on 06/28/2008, -8/+73"Total of signatures: 3,576 of 10,000"

    So is there some law in Canada that makes 10,000 signatures the magic number at which companies give in to peoples' demands?
    • danielmad, on 06/28/2008, -0/+3510000 is the required number of signature needed for review by the consumer board. Anything less and they're lot even going to bother looking at it.
    • connorwilson, on 06/28/2008, -0/+5Apparently 200 was enough for Heinz to pull the commercial where two guys kiss. 10,000 significantly larger than that.
    • Buzzpatrol, on 06/28/2008, -1/+8Yeah, but Heinz had MEN kissing... and thats scarier than terrorists and Atheists together!

      Oh wait...
  • sarchosis, on 06/28/2008, -2/+6I'd just like to say, ***** all communications companies, they're pretty much all ***** over the consumer.
  • offspring06, on 06/28/2008, -2/+11I was going to buy an iphone too but I say ***** that.
  • slappy83, on 06/28/2008, -10/+1I'm not your pal guy.
  • Epskampie, on 06/28/2008, -12/+25Just don't buy it, but please stop crying like little girls and making useless petitions on the internet.
    No one at 'Rogers' will ever look at them or care.

    Your wallet is the only way to influence them.
    • georgetds, on 06/28/2008, -0/+3Enough people don't know better and will buy anything, regardless of being ripped off. Companies like Rogers know that for all those who protest by not buying a product, more people will just toss money their way. Voting with your wallet works only when there is a low demand, and protesting customers risk losing all sales.
      • Epskampie, on 06/28/2008, -0/+2If enough people want to buy it at that price, how can you call it a rip-off? Higher demand equals higher pricing, and if enough people are paying, Rogers would be stupid to lower their prices.
        Not a million internet-petitions is going to change that.

        All I'm saying is that signing petitions is never going to change anything, all you can do is refuse to buy it. If demand is high, you are right, there is nothing you can do, because apparently you are not willing to pay the market-value.
  • guytoronto, on 06/28/2008, -19/+4IT'S A CELL PHONE PEOPLE!!!

    Holy Over-Reaction Batman!

    Such a massive hate-on for a cellular company, all because...whimper...boo hoo...it'll actually cost MONEY to have an iPhone....OH BOO HOO!
    • gotigertom, on 06/28/2008, -1/+2dude, its ultra-more competitive in the excited states....
    • lutefiski, on 06/28/2008, -2/+0Hey Guy,

      YOU'RE AN IDIOT PEOPLE!!! - Speaking of Holy Over-Reaction!

      Such a massive inability to appreciate other people's frustration. In fact, I notice you always (always!) apologize for the situation as is. I guess you enjoy being screwed. So if that's the case why don't you just go ***** yourself!
      • Walker2323, on 06/28/2008, -1/+1He's from Toronto. Cut him some slack. It's like kicking a retarded puppy.
  • tomazkovacic, on 06/28/2008, -4/+15***** your ogers dot com ?
  • flying101, on 06/28/2008, -2/+9http://www.rogers.com/web/content/wireless-product ... here is a direct link to the plans...
  • scairborn, on 06/28/2008, -3/+9USA! USA! wait..oh yeah, AT&T is kind of a bitch too. ...goddammit.
  • timsline, on 06/28/2008, -5/+7You don't NEED the iphone anyway. Get something else on a carrier you want.
    • TripleAStacked, on 06/28/2008, -1/+4Only two carriers in Canada.

      Rogers (Bought competition FIDO)
      Bell ( Bought competition Telus)

      Monopoly @ its best.
      • Sandkat, on 06/28/2008, -1/+3I believe you'll find that's actually a "duopoly" not a monopoly.
      • rayray14, on 06/28/2008, -0/+5Hmmm, I must of missed that headline.. When did Bell buy Telus??
      • stuffradio, on 06/28/2008, -0/+2Fido, which is technically owned by Rogers lol
      • xero9, on 06/28/2008, -0/+1I don't think Telus is owned by Bell. I know they share their network in the past, because they came to an agreement to each cover more rural towns and allow the other company access to it's network. Maybe that's why you think they're the same parent comapny?

        And I believe by Monopoly, you mean cartel
      • S1ngular1ty1, on 06/29/2008, -1/+1You see, the prefix "mono" means one. If you have two providers then how can it be a monopoly? And no one is making you buy the iPhone. No one is making you buy a cell phone.
    • phphreak, on 06/28/2008, -0/+2I need a phone with a quality mobile browser, so where do i go?
    • skidooer, on 06/28/2008, -2/+2I don't care about the iPhone, but I do want a phone running Mobile OS X, as it's the only phone operating system I've seen that's even worth looking at. As soon as I can find a CDMA phone running that system, I'm all over it.
    • ellabee, on 06/28/2008, -0/+4>>You don't NEED the iphone anyway.

      you obviously don't own an iphone.
  • drex8, on 06/28/2008, -3/+5I think this odd bit of news I just read on Yahoo merits some mention in relation to this stranglehold the big companies and choking government policies across USA and Canada (and now increasingly some European countries like France and Sweden) are having on the consumers. Music and movie companies and organizations like mpaa and the riaa and big isps.

    "A New Mexico appeals court on Friday ruled against a Los Alamos man who wanted to change his name to a phrase containing a popular four-letter obscenity.
    The man appealed after a state district judge in Bernalillo County refused his request to change his name to "F--- Censorship!""
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080628/ap_on_fe_st/od ...

    This guy is apparently fed up of exactly whats going on, and I'm thinking our digg friends in Canada are probably frustrated by Rogers, given its past business policies..may take a similar stance and see what happens trying a similar name change in a court in Canada.
    Ok that is probably weird thinking. But people are frustrated all right.
  • Thepirateking, on 06/28/2008, -1/+4No Iphone for me. I didn't think rogers would offer anything worthwile for Dataplans. I may as well stick with my ***** phone and plan with Telus.
  • sd52339, on 06/28/2008, -10/+20Ok so by browsing through the comments for this article there is something that is painfully obvious.

    Before I cover that let me plainly say that in no way am I an Apple fanboy or a Rogers fanboy. I work for a company that sells EVERY
    cellular company that is available in Canada (apart from a few MVNOs).

    Most people are commenting on how this is outrageous pricing but have any of you looked at your monthly bill on Bell or Telus or looked at costs for comparable plans with any other company in Canada?
    Looking at only the base plan for iPhone, let's see if we can find a better in-market (non-retentions, non-corporate) deal for equivalent
    features ...

    Rogers - $60 + 6.95 (system access) + .50 (911) = $67.45
    150 minutes + evening/weekend @ 9 + 400mb data for ANY type of usage + unlimited wifi at rogers and fido hotspots + visual voicemail + 75 sent/unlimited received text
    cancellation fee - max. $400 + $100 data

    Bell - $30 + 8.95 (system access) + .75 (911) + 30 (data) = $69.70
    150 minutes + evening/weekend @ 6 + unlimited browsing NOT DOWNLOADING and unlimited email from SELECT domains only.
    NO voicemail or text
    cancellation fee - max. $400 voice + $100 data
    INCOMING text are chargeable starting August 24

    Telus - $30 + 6.95 (system access) + .75 (911) + 30 (data) = $67.70
    200 minutes (150 + 50 bonus) + evening/weekend @ 6 + unlimited browsing NOT DOWNLOADING and unlimited email from SELECT domains only.
    NO voicemail or text
    cancellation fee - max. $720 voice + $100 data
    INCOMING text are chargeable starting August 24

    Finally, overage on the data with Rogers is 50 cents/MB for the first 60MB and 3 cents/MB after while overages on the Bell and Telus "unlimited" internet plans are charged at $8/MB!!!

    In no way am I saying this is an awesome monthly package for consumers but it is getting some unfair burn by people saying that it is
    a rip-off when really it is the same or better than any current in-market offers.
    • AndrewWiggin, on 06/28/2008, -2/+4Thank you for being more unbiased. This is the exact same thing I thought of. It is better than what I expected. Did everyone else just expect Rogers to offer unlimited wifi for a similar price to that of the US?
      By the way, I never read anything about system access fees with this plan so maybe it doesn't exist. I know my brother has a plan without a system access fee with Bell (though it's a corporate plan, but still they exist).
      • xerox, on 06/29/2008, -0/+2As a former Bell Mobilty CSR, ALL consumer plans have a system access fee.
    • Raian, on 06/28/2008, -0/+8Give me a break-- does a comparison make it right?

      The cell phone industry in Canada is *****.

      Rogers will be sitting on a ***** of iPhones come July 11th.
      • AndrewWiggin, on 06/28/2008, -2/+2Let's put aside the comparison to other companies. I am comparing this to the kind of plans that Rogers used to offer and I think this is a bit step in the right direction, but of course still very unreasonable.
      • bulbasuar, on 06/28/2008, -1/+1Every iPhone will sell.
        You're naive to think otherwise.
    • bhattsan, on 06/28/2008, -0/+4"unlimited browsing NOT DOWNLOADING and unlimited email from SELECT domains only."

      Wow...maybe I shouldn't be complaining about the US's crappy dollar..those are some ***** limitations...
    • craigg77, on 06/28/2008, -0/+4So you have confirmed that the entire cellphone industry in Canada sucks.... well thanks fot that!
      • iatebabies, on 06/28/2008, -2/+0no, you misinterpreted his results. canada sucks is what he was getting at.
        (
    • ikaris, on 06/28/2008, -2/+1I pay 42/month (no sys access fee) for 200 minutes in the day, unlimited evenings and weekends at 6pm, caller id, 3 way calling, call waiting, voicemail, 500 outbound text messages and....

      unlimited data

      on an HTC touch through Bell mobility.

      "unlimited browsing NOT DOWNLOADING and unlimited email from SELECT domains only."

      You have no idea about what you are talking about... I use email from four different providers with Outlook include direct push email and I can download whatever I want from whatever website.

      Of course you can't tether (although with some modifications you can without being detected).

      Anyways.. ***** Rogers and the iphone

      the truth is you can definitely negotiate plans with the carriers (or at least bell)
      • sd52339, on 06/28/2008, -1/+0yeah and guess what, that's a corporate rate plan and I'm pretty I sure I said " let's see if we can find a better in-market (non-retentions, non-corporate)" So you have the ALL-IN 35 plan with the $7 unlimited mobile browser added on which is a completely different option than what is allowed with a REAL data device such as blackberry, treo, etc. REAL data devices have the $30 "unlimited browsing and email" add-on available to them which if you look online clearly states what can and can't be done with the "unlimited" service.

        But I guess you are right I must not know my stuff ;)
      • UnknownRelic, on 06/28/2008, -0/+2"unlimited browsing NOT DOWNLOADING and unlimited email from SELECT domains only."

        You're mistaken... I'm on Telus with the $30 for unlimited data. I use a Blackberry. I'm not on a corporate plan. There is certainly no limitation on domains to receive email from, and I can browse the web, download applications, upload data, etc. It IS unlimited data.
    • cdiggy, on 06/28/2008, -5/+1Do all you haterz not have a computer, and you know, a home? The majority of content you will be putting on your iPhone can be synced thru iTunes much cheaper (and faster) than wirelessly. Do all the 'heavy lifting' at home and while you are out try to use wifi. If there's no wifi then just keep an eye on your data stats. So many whinerz and haterz. $60 plan is not too bad, unless you are a whiney bitch ass data whore!
    • Trichomonas, on 06/28/2008, -1/+2Get the HTC Touch from Bell. Unlimited data for only $7/month. It doesn't have 3G but honestly it's fast enough unless you want to stream a movie or something. The phone only costs $100 and it looks great as well. Not to mention it's highly customizable without having to "unlock" it (unlike the iPhone).
    • ferreth, on 06/29/2008, -0/+1Pathetic. "***** you Rogers" garbage comments get dug up hugely and this guy who at least tries to present a comparison of how Rogers plans compare to other plans available in Canada gets dick all for Diggs. sd52339, dugg, for being the only comment that answered my question about how this plan compares to the other available data plans.
  • chriskzoo, on 06/28/2008, -10/+1GOD BLESS THE U-S-A!!!
  • bonez56, on 06/28/2008, -11/+4penis
  • cquilliam, on 06/28/2008, -0/+9Easy solution, STOP USING ROGERS. They screwed me over enough times that I moved to better companies for my services. Rogers can go screw themselves now. Is an iphone really worth it? Seriously?
    • Drizzit, on 06/28/2008, -3/+3I honestly dont get it... They can not be the only GSM carrier out there. People will just get it through a 3rd party and use it on the service of their choice.


      Still those plans are criminal.
      • Spamorama, on 06/28/2008, -0/+4They actually ARE the only GSM for Canada...
      • xciton, on 06/28/2008, -0/+3Yup, they are the only primary carrier for GSM. There are other much smaller companies that sell GSM services, but they all use Roger's towers and backbone.
  • WilliamAdama, on 06/28/2008, -1/+35Dear Rogers,

    All of your prices for all of your services are very expensive compared to American competitors and others around the world. I have put up with this though and subscribed to them until recently.

    After reading about your iphone data rate plans, my family has decided that rogers is not the wireless provider for us. Because we do not like you raping us with high prices, we have also decided to cancel our rogers home internet plan. We are not a fan of bandwidth capping and will be moving to an ISP that does not have a monthly bandwidth cap. Last month we canceled our subscription to rogers home phone, we didn't like paying $30/month for a home phone service that came with 3 features. We switched to voipgo and now pay $12/month for 18 features and unlimited North American calling. We know that rogers home phone is a form of voip, we don't know why you charge so much when competing voip services offer far more features and options for a way better price.

    Your customer service is poor and your price rates are poorer. Your company disgraces all of us Canadians by thinking that we would let you take advantage of us with your ridiculous price plans on all of your services. My family and I will now go out of our way to ensure that all of our neighbours, friends, and everyone around us will also not subscribe to any of your services.

    I hope that for the sake of your company, you come to your senses and lower all of your data rate plans and remove silly things like internet bandwidth capping. It would be best to lower your prices all around on every service. No one in their right mind would pay for your services anymore, hence why we're canceling all of your services. If you want to gain us back, talk to us when you've significantly lowered your prices and increased your services value.

    Also, please stop sending us fliers in the mail. It is bad for the environment to cut down trees and turn them into rogers fliers. No one I know ever reads them or uses them, they end up in the recycling bin. Is your business run by monkey's?

    Sincerely,



    Sent to:
    Ted Rogers trogers@rci.rogers.com
    J Innes (VP) jinnes@rci.rogers.com
    and Jane Haitsma jhaitsma@rci.rogers.com

    We all should send them an email,
    https://your.rogers.com/contact/contactus_main.asp
    • WilliamAdama, on 06/28/2008, -1/+6Auto response from Jan Innes @ rogers.

      "I am out of the office from Friday evening, June 20th returning Monday morning July 7th. In my absence, if you require immediate assistance, please speak to my assistant Mary Treacey."
    • eternalsnows, on 06/28/2008, -0/+9monkey's?
    • phphreak, on 06/28/2008, -2/+7that was a good letter, until you said raping and lost all credibility
      • WilliamAdama, on 06/28/2008, -0/+3I guess I should have waited until my blood stopped boiling.
      • myhandleondigg, on 06/28/2008, -1/+1the rest wasn't very good either
      • eguez, on 06/29/2008, -0/+1Yup. Sounds like it was written by a high school kid. Credibility counts alot. Also another heads up. If you cancelled all your services and found better elsewhere then why plead with them to get you back? A cancelled service is unfortunate but any company would rather gain 3 more new customers then bend over for one.
    • TheIguana, on 06/28/2008, -0/+2Don't forget to send an email to the Apple side of the equation as well. This majority of this circumstance may be on Roger's side, but Apple still has a lot of weight in where this is going.

      Simon Atkins (Canada), satkins@apple.com
      Steve Dowling, dowling@apple.com, (408) 974-1896
      The head corporate media guy in the USA
      Katie Cotton, katiec@apple.com, Vice President of Worldwide Corporate Communications
      And of particular importance Steve Jobs, sjobs@mac.com -or- steve@mac.com

      Dear *insert exec name here*,

      Today your company (Rogers Communications) released the details of its proposed rate scheme for the Apple iPhone. Given my general love for Apple products, I have patiently waited for the iPhone to makes its way to Canada. Disappointingly, the announcement made today has dashed both the limelight and my wish of owning an iPhone.

      The most painful factor of the plans announced today is a disregard in providing a fair and reasonable service in concert with cost. The most notable element of these new plans is the stinging choice between 400Mb to 2Gb of data on the network. These quotas are better than in past, but they remain the worst in the fleet of international iPhone mobile carriers. No other mobile carrier worldwide has offered a single plan below the 1Gb threshold, with a significant majority opting to provide users with unlimited service. Caller ID is the next notable feature that is missing from the basic features of any of these services. I can not for the life of me understand how Rogers can justify a $15 extra charge to know whom is calling me, especially when this is a basic telephony standard in todays world. Lastly the 150 minute quota at the starting end of mobile tariffs is abysmal, this quota is the most apparent explanation for me as a customer that you do not see a need to provide a fair and reasonable service in concert with its cost. This quota is completely out dated by modern mobile carriers and is in its essence penny pinching.

      I and my family have long used Rogers as our wireless service provider. I was seriously considering purchasing an iPhone come July 11th. However, the service options you have raised has in one fellow swoop dashed the wish I had for purchasing an iPhone on your network. Beyond this, it has raised a powerful realization for me as a consumer of your services. If these plans reflect how you would like me to view you as a mobile service provider, then I wonder why, I and my family should continue to pay an growing part of our hard earned income for your mobile services.

      Sincerely,
    • iChopPryde, on 06/28/2008, -0/+1I definitely sent all of the rogers people a nice long email explaining how I feel also sent them the website where we are getting ready for the appeal. Nice letter I would appreciate if you could send me a private message about this VoiP service and another provider you chose for internet I was currently looking for both of these thanks in advance :)
      • WilliamAdama, on 06/29/2008, -0/+0Hey, rather than sending you a private message, I'll post it here so everyone can see.

        Voipgo - http://voipgo.com

        We paid $149.95 for the entire year which equates to $12.49 /month. It comes with unlimited outgoing/incoming calls, 18 features, unlimited north american calling, no setup/activation/cancellation fee's and also 1 month free.

        Some of the features include cool things like email voicemail so I can receive all my voicemails at my email, I can take my phone number anywhere I have internet. If I am a traveling man, I can take my voip modem and plug it into an ethernet jack and have my local phone number. So that means if I have an area code of 705 (barrie, ontario) and I travel to mexico, all I have to do is plug my voip modem in and anyone with 705 can call me without long distance fee's (depending on their plan) and I can call anywhere in north america for free because it's all through the internet.

        The customer service is also great, they are fast to respond to emails, phone calls, and I can talk to them live through their live chat help! Rogers doesn't have live chat and they are very slow to respond to emails and don't call me back.

        See more features here: http://voipgo.com/features.htm


        As for a new ISP, i'm not sure which one I'll choose yet. There is a list of them here: http://www.canadianisp.ca/cgi-bin/ispsearch.cgi?f= ...

        www.canadianisp.ca is a great website to help you find every isp in your area, including the small ones that no one knows about.

        I am most likely going to get TekSavvy unless I find something else with a better price but TekSavvy has no bandwidth caps and I can get a dry-loop dsl because I no longer have my bell landline phone lines active since i use voipgo
      • xerox, on 06/29/2008, -0/+1TekSavvy leases lines from Bell, who now traffic shapes P2P traffic, even on re-seller lines.
    • robotbebop, on 06/29/2008, -0/+1It's not that the prices are expensive so much as we were expecting *unlimited* data plans like the states gets for their iPhones (and other handset plans as well.)

      Canada is in the ***** stone age when it comes to cell phone pricing in general and it was hoped that the iPhone might be a move away from that; that hope was fueled by the fact that it took so ***** long to even get here.

      If the iPhone was released in Canada with these rates the same month it came out in the states I don't think it would've been as big of an issue.
  • InorganicMatter, on 06/28/2008, -1/+12I think the title should read:
    Canada + Phone plans = Screw you.
  • UltamateAddict, on 06/28/2008, -8/+3My dog is dying. He has a tumor in his stomach and lung cancer. We have to put him down soon.

    I like puppies.

    Signed the petition and dugg up. WTG guys, lets show them that the internet has the power.
  • demne, on 06/28/2008, -7/+4Don't buy it, go to another carrier, its that simple.
    • phphreak, on 06/28/2008, -1/+4I don't think we're looking for basic cell service, but the iPHONE!!!!!
      • xciton, on 06/28/2008, -2/+0Then if that's what you want, then buy the damn thing. If you feel the ned to be "special" with the iPhone, go for it.

        Hope you're ready to pay out the nose for it....
      • phphreak, on 06/28/2008, -0/+2Special? I want a decent smart phone, and this has everything I want: Great mobile browser, RSS reading, Email, iPod, Phone, Visual Voice Mail, etc.

        The gen 1 iPhone I have has made me much more accessible to my family living abroad.
    • LilJimmyNordin, on 06/28/2008, -0/+3Not that simple. The monopoly Rogers has on GSM service means that those of us with GSM phones either have to pay up to Rogers or pay up for another phone on another service provider. We shouldn't have to do that.

      We've been ***** by Rogers, Bell, the CRTC, and the Canadian Government in general. It's a gangbang, and the Canadian consumer is the sloppy party whore.
  • duckyinc, on 06/28/2008, -4/+6It's safe to say rogers pwned you guys..
  • Vlakhen, on 06/28/2008, -5/+1Well, if you check out the biggest carriers around the world. The iphone is their cash-cow too, they all average at 70-80$ CAN for basic plans.
  • AndrewWiggin, on 06/28/2008, -2/+2I don't see it indicating anywhere that a system access fee applies. I am just curious if everyone is speculating or if they read something I didn't? (I know Rogers always charges it with any plan, but this is clearly unlike any other plan and it says no where on the webpage about it and it usually indicates somewhere that the fee applies.)
    • Spamorama, on 06/28/2008, -0/+1Are you kidding? When doesn't Rogers or Bell apply this bogus fee?
  • wuha1981, on 06/28/2008, -9/+4TELUS FTW
  • Odiwan, on 06/28/2008, -0/+32I work at a software company in Canada and there were about 6 people (geeks, including myself) that were waiting to get an iPhone 3G from Rogers or Fido. Guess what? 5 out of the 5 geeks I talked to decided the conditions of the plans were too restrictive, and will NOT get the iPhone 3G from Rogers/Fido.

    Why? We all expected it to cost about $60, plus perhaps the $6.95 network fee. What we didn't expect was to have to pay an additional $15 for Caller ID, which we all love, and furthermore, be limited to a paltry 400MB of data per month. Either one of those two problems alone, would have been dissapointing, but I think sales would have been made anyway, we could live without Caller ID, or perhaps with the data limit. But with Caller ID that's over $100 US A MONTH over 3 years, and don't you dare download too many apps from the App Store or buy too many iTunes albums or dare to watch Youtube videos.

    You get the picture? At $60 a month (plus network fees and taxes), with Caller ID included, OR with unlimited data, I think all 5 would have went for it. But the combo of both these two "issues" together makes it a no-go.
    • AndrewWiggin, on 06/28/2008, -3/+3I don't think the 400 mb limit is that big of a deal. Just use wifi whenever you want to buy an app or an album. I think 400 megs will be a decent amount for data. I currently have an old iPhone and data would be useful for me for maps and for some browsing when I am commuting or things like that, but since it shows you how much data you use, you can easily monitor it and stay safe.
      • phphreak, on 06/28/2008, -1/+23g will mean a lot more data is used on a daily basis. Searching for wifi is a pain in the ass, and tethers me to overpriced coffee shops when I want to download an app?!?
  • IronChefMattai, on 06/28/2008, -13/+4Rogers is smart. Every idiot in the country is still going to pay these ridiculous data fees just so they can use a phone with an apple on the back. They have been doing the same thing with cable for years. People keep buying their products from them. Our other two major carriers will do the same thing when the iPhone is no longer a Rogers exclusive. Sign all the petitions and make all the complaints you want, nothing will change until people stop buying these services. People will keep buying these services because for some reason people will pay anything to use an iPhone. Rogers knows this and are taking this opportunity to make a lot of money. It is the same thing as people driving Hummers and complaining about gas prices. You don't need a Hummer and you don't need an iPhone. Suck it up and quit whining.
  • Gizmort, on 06/28/2008, -2/+6Oh Canada!
  • onlyclave, on 06/28/2008, -16/+4***** you, whiners. No one is forcing you to buy an iPhone.

  • sb07, on 06/28/2008, -2/+4where's the at&t version of this site for us americans?
  • mtappenden, on 06/28/2008, -6/+1How about grow the ***** up? The plans aren't bad at all. There's a slight SMS deficiency but other than that they're pretty decent.
    • phphreak, on 06/28/2008, -0/+2You know absolutely nothing about the iPhone and just how much data it will use in a month. I use 350-400 MB a month on a gen 1 iPhone without even touching YouTube. Also, with 3rd person apps, there will be even more reason to use cool apps on the go (the bus, etc.) Wait and see how many outrageous bills arise, if anyone is dumb enough to buy one of these with these outrageous plans.
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