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Stats Suggest Curious Trends In iPhone 3G Launch
engadgetmobile.com — Engadget has obtained a handful of stats regarding number ports in and out of T-Mobile USA handled by a national wholesaler
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- antoniuk, on 07/22/2008, -33/+24Stop spamming iphone crap!
- digiguy, on 07/23/2008, -8/+5Did you know that DIGG has a filter page to filter out Apple Stories that people like you don't have to read? It gets dugg, maybe people want to read this crap
- JasonCox, on 07/23/2008, -0/+8The filter settings dont stop the stories from coming across RSS though.
- waydee, on 07/23/2008, -1/+7What if we don't mind legitimate Apple news and would just rather not have to put up with all this iPhone spamming?
- tman84, on 07/23/2008, -2/+3Quick everyone look, its Steve Jobs' dick, open your mouths.
- baralo, on 07/23/2008, -0/+3Nobody made you open the story.
- HonoredMule, on 07/23/2008, -0/+1Every iPhone story on the annoyingly-unfiltered RSS feed is one less slot for something that might have interested me.
- digiguy, on 07/23/2008, -8/+5Did you know that DIGG has a filter page to filter out Apple Stories that people like you don't have to read? It gets dugg, maybe people want to read this crap
- streak, on 07/22/2008, -5/+14As we all know the iPhone 3G is selling well:
Conjecture 1: The original iPhone launch already sucked away the smart money from T-Mobile. Consequently the iPhone 3G launch would have no significant effect on the few T-Mobile customers that remain.
Because many people were sitting on the sidelines waiting for iPhone 3G:
Conjecture 2: That national wholesaler's statistics are meaningless.- FredFredrickson, on 07/23/2008, -0/+1The first conjecture is the most reasonable, and probably the most true - the second iPhone sold more to people who already use iPhones, converted a few more people, and in the end, didn't make as big of a splash as the first iteration of the phone.
But why should it? iPhone 3G is not the same big thing as the iPhone was. - jabberwolf, on 07/23/2008, -0/+1Same groupies bought same new iphone.
Not to mention it was sold to many other countries.
Guess what else sold out in Europe (for real not fake limited supply created by apple)
HTC diamond.
And that isnt even half the story with stuff like the samsung i900 or HTC touch pro coming out.- shank2001, on 07/24/2008, -0/+1I know 5 different people who switched to AT&T from Verizon and two from T-Mobile for the 3G iPhone, not including myself, and another friend who had a 1st gen iPhone who DIDN'T upgrade. So I really doubt that the same people who bought the first gen phone were the ones buying. The 3G iPhone was the version MANY people were holding out for, so it does not surprise me that it is selling so well. And as people I meet and talk to get to play around with my iPhone, more and more people are going to get one as well. The phone just does that to people. Put it in their had for a few minutes, and they see how amazingly easy it is to use and are instantly ready to run to an Apple store. Amazingly enough, there ARE people out there that have not heard or seen the iPhone before. Those people are always fun, they are AMAZED when they play around with it, and it is fun to watch them mess around with the fun for a while.
- shank2001, on 07/24/2008, -0/+1I know 5 different people who switched to AT&T from Verizon and two from T-Mobile for the 3G iPhone, not including myself, and another friend who had a 1st gen iPhone who DIDN'T upgrade. So I really doubt that the same people who bought the first gen phone were the ones buying. The 3G iPhone was the version MANY people were holding out for, so it does not surprise me that it is selling so well. And as people I meet and talk to get to play around with my iPhone, more and more people are going to get one as well. The phone just does that to people. Put it in their had for a few minutes, and they see how amazingly easy it is to use and are instantly ready to run to an Apple store. Amazingly enough, there ARE people out there that have not heard or seen the iPhone before. Those people are always fun, they are AMAZED when they play around with it, and it is fun to watch them mess around with the fun for a while.
- FredFredrickson, on 07/23/2008, -0/+1The first conjecture is the most reasonable, and probably the most true - the second iPhone sold more to people who already use iPhones, converted a few more people, and in the end, didn't make as big of a splash as the first iteration of the phone.
- serverdown, on 07/23/2008, -3/+47is it just me or was that a bunch of gibberish
- sakuraz, on 07/23/2008, -0/+4nah, nah, it makes sense.
....wait, nah, I lost it. - 1longtime, on 07/23/2008, -0/+2FTA: "...ports to AT&T represented under 40 percent of the firm's total outflow in the days surrounding the 3G's launch, versus nearly 70 percent the last time around."
also FTA: "...meaning that T-Mobile effectively lost no net ground due to the 3G's launch."
and also FTA: "...when you extrapolate that data, you're looking at a pretty significant downturn in interest from T-Mobile subscribers."
...so T-Mobile is saying they haven't been losing customers (or "porting" customers) to AT&T, right? Trying to clarify the language here...
- sakuraz, on 07/23/2008, -0/+4nah, nah, it makes sense.
- waydee, on 07/23/2008, -16/+9Buried as spam.
- tman84, on 07/23/2008, -19/+10Apple Spam, buried
- Thundercracker, on 07/23/2008, -10/+4http://youtube.com/watch?v=wKjxFJfcrcA
- suprememilo, on 07/23/2008, -12/+4My friend ported his whole family (4 numbers) and my other friend just ported his 1 number to AT&T.
- badbadmike, on 07/23/2008, -0/+14Super.
- santaliqueur, on 07/23/2008, -0/+14That is totally ***** awesome.
- Cargo8, on 07/23/2008, -0/+13Well all the people who switched over to AT&T for the first iPhone are already on AT&T for the iPhone 3G, so obviously they can't switch from T-Mobile to AT&T again...
- Temo1, on 07/23/2008, -5/+6Actually, this article seems to make sense. ATT subsidized the iPhone in hopes that the lower price would be able to attract competitor's subscribers and make money in the long run. However, the churn rate at T-Mobile suggests that this did not happen: most buyers of the iPhone 3G were already ATT customers, and probably already had the original iPhone. Therefore, Apple wins because they sold out their phones, but ATT (maybe) loses in that it did not grab additional market share.
- jjhuddle, on 07/23/2008, -12/+6That article makes no sense. None.
WTF?
No one cares, Apple. - Tevediggs, on 07/23/2008, -14/+9I bet 90% of the 200 diggs are ppl that have iphones, digg cuz they think they're cool, and don't even read the article.
- digiguy, on 07/23/2008, -5/+5What's the point of the filter page when most people spamming the iPhone and Apple news don't even use it?
- opticrime, on 07/23/2008, -3/+5Bear in mind that this includes the "days around the 3G launch". I would be surprised if there were any ports on the launch date given all the activation SNAFUs (the "iPocalypse"). I suspect many of the ports came several days after the 'launch' date.
- digglifecn, on 07/23/2008, -9/+0That's really nosense
- sl4x0r, on 07/23/2008, -2/+8i really don't think the people digging this story have read it–it's fairly useless and not even necessarily a yay iPhone! article
- computerusr, on 07/23/2008, -3/+6Why so serious?
- sanosuke001, on 07/23/2008, -1/+0Dugg down just because I don't want that phrase turned into "THIS IS SPARTA!" and ruined. I like TDK too much :/
SO SHUT THE ***** UP- computerusr, on 07/23/2008, -2/+1No motha ***** ***** up to your dumbass. Your dumb ass really cares about a quote that much, and what it will turn into? Shut yo big headed ass up and get a life.
- sanosuke001, on 07/24/2008, -0/+0Actually, probably more like "it's annoying as *****"
- sanosuke001, on 07/23/2008, -1/+0Dugg down just because I don't want that phrase turned into "THIS IS SPARTA!" and ruined. I like TDK too much :/
- petaganayr, on 07/23/2008, -4/+1Port...what? Who cares?
- normalkid0615, on 07/23/2008, -4/+3this ***** was on the front page yesterday
poop on your face - grneye53, on 07/23/2008, -1/+2banks failing ,gas high,food prices scaling up to meet gas prices , Budweiser as an import , No Starbucks. Thank God the 3g IPHONE is here to save us all and if you don't believe me look at the party they threw on the beach in Rio when they heard the IPHONE was coming or how Canada celebrated when the IPHONE came with the Rogers unlocked plan.
- futuretense, on 07/23/2008, -1/+2I will be with tmobile for only a few more hours. Maybe the stats aren't reflecting a huge number of people who haven't had a chance to jump ship with tmobile yet because their damn iphone hasn't arrived!!! I ordered the iphone the Saturday after the Friday launch and the phone looks like it's going to be delivered today finally. I've heard that some people will be waiting up to 3 weeks. Lets check those stats in a month for greater accuracy.
- Lotusopal, on 07/23/2008, -2/+1I think that most people are just buying these phones, because everyone else is. I wonder how many people could articulate what they like about them and what uses they have for it.
- shank2001, on 07/24/2008, -0/+1You have never actually messed around with one, have you. It is amazing how many people have gotten the iPhone simply because I let them mess around with mine for about 5 minutes. It's the interface, silly!
- shank2001, on 07/24/2008, -0/+1You have never actually messed around with one, have you. It is amazing how many people have gotten the iPhone simply because I let them mess around with mine for about 5 minutes. It's the interface, silly!
- totorototoro, on 07/23/2008, -0/+2That is a pretty odd story. So its a national "wholesaler" (like BestBuy, or LetsTalk?) claiming that based on their number porting that people aren't switching from TMobile to ATT? And therefore the iPhone launch numbers are in question?
What percentage of TMobile's business do these guys handle?
What is the ratio of people porting numbers when switching, as opposed to just getting a new number?
What percentage of initial iPhone sales were projected to be switchers?
I mean, if you are going to do a story about an issue, how about some homework? - FredFredrickson, on 07/23/2008, -2/+2Most of the people who were hyped about the old iPhone bought a new iPhone. Most of the new sales were not converts.
What's the big ***** deal? Obviously this product isn't going to make s big of a splash, because not only do the majority of people who use cell phone not know what the ***** 3G is, they don't ***** care. The iPhone cult get petted by Apple for their loyalty with a new version of the same phone, and the following grows a tiny bit. The rest of the world moves on. BFD.- rainmandane, on 07/23/2008, -0/+1Probably in the first week, the buyers were repeats from last year or people who wanted to buy but were waiting for the updated model. But in later weeks, I think you'll get the new customers. At $200, it makes a good birthday/graduation gift, it makes more sense for companies to buy, it becomes affordable for college students, etc. People may not understand 3G, but they do understand competitive pricing.
- FredFredrickson, on 07/23/2008, -0/+1I agree with you, but I also think that Apple roped in most of the people who were really interested from the get-go. The product was more "revolutionary" back then. Adding 3G to it might have made it more appealing to the people who used the original and were upset with its shortcomings, but I doubt it made a very compelling argument for those who didn't.
Price is more key than anything, but with the dumpy economy, I just don't see a lot of new converts this time around.
- FredFredrickson, on 07/23/2008, -0/+1I agree with you, but I also think that Apple roped in most of the people who were really interested from the get-go. The product was more "revolutionary" back then. Adding 3G to it might have made it more appealing to the people who used the original and were upset with its shortcomings, but I doubt it made a very compelling argument for those who didn't.
- shank2001, on 07/24/2008, -0/+1No, many people wanted an iPhone from the very first day, but no 3G... deal breaker. Now that particular issue is resolved. The floodgates have opened.
- rainmandane, on 07/23/2008, -0/+1Probably in the first week, the buyers were repeats from last year or people who wanted to buy but were waiting for the updated model. But in later weeks, I think you'll get the new customers. At $200, it makes a good birthday/graduation gift, it makes more sense for companies to buy, it becomes affordable for college students, etc. People may not understand 3G, but they do understand competitive pricing.
- BinderGang, on 07/23/2008, -0/+1What about customers from other carriers? It seems that most customers who go with Tmobile go with Tmobile because of their phone selection. What about carriers with ***** phone selections and their customers woke up and said "a relatively affordable smartphone? I'm switching".
- shallabal316, on 07/23/2008, -0/+1I work next to an at&t corporate store, and I noticed something interesting about this launch. For the first iPhone launch, that store received about 300 phones. For this launch they received about 90. They have received no orders to sell to customers in store. They only iPhone's received are for people who ordered them.
- rainmandane, on 07/23/2008, -0/+1People who pay $600 for a phone are more likely to pay $175 in early termination fees to switch carriers; hence last year's big spike in ports. At a $200 price point, expect a more slow and even port rate as people wait for their current contract lock-in periods to expire.
- imac79, on 07/23/2008, -0/+2***** AT&T!!! T-Mobile Rocks!!!! I have a first gen iphone unlocked and jailbroken on T-Mobile. Everything works except visual voicemail.
- drivethruboy168, on 07/23/2008, -0/+0Well put it this way... very soon you'll see ports coming from AT&T back to T-Mobile... sucks that you have to activate the phone in store but we T-Mobile lovers have some tricks up our sleeves!
- wuchuanmin, on 08/21/2008, -0/+1iphone 3G is a great product
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