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- thornnd, on 10/10/2007, -18/+15While I'm not keen on hacking my iPhone just yet, I am enthusiastic about what I've been seeing in the iHack-o-sphere. It shows that the hardware has massive capaibilties, and it's just a matter of waiting on Apple to come out with applications, release the SDK, or waiting on more elegant hacks. The iPhone really is badass.
- brufleth, on 10/10/2007, -5/+14Dug down for "iHack-o-sphere."
- jeffeb3, on 10/10/2007, -6/+21buried for "iHack-o-sphere", the combination of my two least favorite trends, the prefix "i_capital letter_" and the suffix "-o-sphere". Oh yeah, and the overuse of the word "hack". Although this isn't as far fetched as "hacking your windows XP" by changing the desktop background. Why not add "2.0"
- schoate09, on 10/10/2007, -3/+4iHack-o-sphere 2.0
- counterplex, on 10/10/2007, -3/+2iHack-o-sphr 2.0 beta
- millsworks, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4This is just the thin edge of the wedge. Having hardware and software that can be hacked instead of the pre-packaged restricted garbage the Telcos insist on providing will be a major leap forward. People are deciding what products they want and if they don't get provided they'll make it themselves. The genie's outah da bottle.
- jonknee, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Have you not seen what can be done with a smartphone OS that comes with a goddamn API? The iPhone is not even close to being as "hackable" as a S60 or Windows Mobile device. By the way, plenty of those come with video conferencing built-in. With second cameras dedicated to the task so you can actually use them without having to invest in a bizarre looking mirror that no one will actually use in the real world.
- orelses, on 10/10/2007, -4/+3I can already "picture" a little clip on device that plugs into the bottom and wraps around so that a vc camera will be pointed toward the user. Maybe Apple with work out a deal with Polycom and charge $2000 for it. ;-)
- TomPlansMedia, on 10/10/2007, -1/+12if these guys can rig iphone's camera to video conference, apple could surely roll out a video capture app via a software update
- Radan, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Not if AT&T has anything to say about it. Sadly.
- totorototoro, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5very cool stuff..now, will the next iPhone come with a rotatable camera? (or two camera lenses?)
- hartley, on 10/10/2007, -15/+7Isn't the camera on the back of the phone?
- sw1val, on 10/10/2007, -2/+17RTFA
- KidVicious, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4They're using mirrors.
- ha1f, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2not a huge fan of the iphone, but i love good hacks. its really impressive what people have been doing with this thing.
- givemereplay, on 10/10/2007, -6/+5Boy, if it didn't require that stupid little stand this would be really evolutionary! As it stands (ahem) this is a poorly rigged piece of crap.
- pak314, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10You go to be kidding me. Who would carry a funky mirror system like that.
- rebotfc, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1ever heard of proof of concept?
- jeffeb3, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1I've heard that cingular will start offering the video conferencing capability to 3G networks. Too bad the iPhone isn't 3G... The HTD Hermes has a version with a crummy camera on the front (in addition to the 2MP one on the back). A friend of mine from Saudi Arabia had it and said it worked for video conferencing in his country.
- thonnie, on 10/10/2007, -7/+2Eh? Video conferencing on GSM? Totally not worth it. 3G >>>>>> GSM
- superkendall, on 10/10/2007, -4/+6WiFi >>>>>>>> 3G
- AnonymousCow, on 10/10/2007, -6/+0I'm assuming you meant EDGE instead of GSM, and I believe EDGE is considered a 3G network anyway, though certainly not on the same performance level as EV-DO or HSDPA.
- ianweir, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2Just a heads up - multiple greater than signs do not make something even greater than a single greater than sign.
3G > GSM gets the point across and is an awful lot easier to read.
- Ub3rg33k, on 10/10/2007, -6/+2While its an impressive feat, why would anyone want to videoconference on an iPhone?
- bansai, on 10/10/2007, -8/+5iphone is not built for video conferencing
1) note the lack of frontal camera
2) note the usage of EDGE representing 2 generations behind current technologies- CraigJ, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7Note the use of Wi-Fi to conduct the video conference.
- bansai, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4note the fact that wifi spots are limited.. if you're at home, might as well just turn on your PC to video conference..
and you wont know when someone will video call you.. you dont expect to be in a wifi zone 24x7
- bansai, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4note the fact that wifi spots are limited.. if you're at home, might as well just turn on your PC to video conference..
- imikedaman, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4Note your lack of reading this article.
- CraigJ, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7Note the use of Wi-Fi to conduct the video conference.
- CraigJ, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4The best news here is that is confirms that the hardware is capable of video capture.
- jonknee, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Since video is displayed on the screen when using the camera, this was never in doubt.
- imikedaman, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8This new breakthrough is all smoke and mirrors.
- in2deep, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1Wow this thing does have all the tricks!
- tucsonwc, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3It would be better if Apple put an actual video camera, with a higher resolution inside the iPhone.
They are already enjoying a huge markup on the hardware, why not put in a decent camera?
And one that could just use iChat and yahoo messenger and skype?
Perhaps they won't be as stingy with the 3G version of the iPhone.- virtualball, on 10/10/2007, -0/+11.3 MP is fine for me in a phone. My old one was VGA! :P Also, My digital camera is a 7 MP, so if I really need pictures, I'll just take that.
- digitallysick, on 10/10/2007, -5/+5A $500.00 + dollar phone that need to be hacked to preform functions that we should of had 2 years ago. Maybe 4 years from now it will run "skype" , and have a no crippled bluetooth. Really though, i think the iphone is nice, but not for the asking price.
- xike, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Videoconferencing on a mobile device is certainly not a two-year old technology...
- halik, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Hah while it's a neato coding hack, the mirror thing is just idiotic. Please just leave it as a proof of concept, who in their right mind would drop 500+ bucks on a top of the line phone that needs a mirror thing to do videoconferencing.
- plugone, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0Halik:
It's important to notice that the mirror we're using is designed for the MacBook Pro, not an iPhone. I think saying idiotic is a little harsh as most people think it's rather clever thing to do.
- plugone, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0Halik:
- aaronvegh, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5I was there at the conference when this was announced. It's an awesome hack, but nobody should confuse it with being "video" conferencing. The system sends JPEGs between the phones, at a pretty low framerate. Anyone imagining it as a 30fps system would be quite disappointed.
Still, very, very cool, and a lot of fun. That was the whole point, after all. :-) - Aanidaani, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Kinda stupid considering the camera and display are on opposite sides.
- mara00jade, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Can I get that guy's phone number who made it? I'd like to video conference with him :)
- slapded, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1cell phones will not be cool until there is real 30fps video conferencing
- Masna, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3I like turtles.
- jabberwolf, on 10/10/2007, -1/+0What hack?
These are still web apps, this one just accesses your iPhone camera.
Doesn't skype have something like this already that actually has voice from dialcom ?
Buried for iPhone story that deserves a yawn.- pastahelmet, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0Read the article. This is a native iPhone app, not a web app.
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