- optionshiftk, on 09/03/2008, -24/+7Kevin's sources are accurate( I think)
- hakz, on 09/04/2008, -5/+23wow, I was really worried that what he said was wrong. Thanks for reassuring me *thumbs up
/sarcasm- Giga, on 09/05/2008, -0/+0To be fair, it was only a partial reassurance (I think).
- placidified, on 09/04/2008, -2/+35yeah i know, i love how my iPhone has two batteries and the slide out keyboard !
/sarcasm - sockpuppets, on 09/04/2008, -1/+9Well I think Kevin's sources are lawn gnomes. So there.
- ElAmo, on 09/04/2008, -1/+3Thanks optionshiftk, your reassurance closely followed by doubt really boosts our confidence in Kevin and his news.
/sarcasm - RaulMuadDib, on 09/04/2008, -2/+5*remark*
/sarcasm - dn11, on 09/04/2008, -0/+7he was right about sept 9 date.
- MrSprout, on 09/04/2008, -1/+7There are 18 days in September?
- Justin6512, on 09/04/2008, -0/+1yeah he seems pretty bold putting this on his blog
- kinseyincanada, on 09/04/2008, -3/+1well he seems to be right about the new Nano so i would assume its from the same source.
- imacbook, on 09/04/2008, -4/+3Still waiting for my iPhone with slide out keyboard and dual batteries.
stfu Kevin Rose.
kthx- MacParrot, on 09/04/2008, -2/+1If that's what you want why not pick out a different phone? Chances are Apple isn't going to do a major redesign of the iPhone for awhile and unless they release a new model, chances are you won't see those things. In the meantime, there ARE other ones besides the iPhone. I'm holding off because of storage issues. The POS flip phone I already have and the 80GB Classic iPod I have will fit my needs until the iPhone is the device I want.
- danielsamuels, on 09/04/2008, -0/+1The keyboard does sort of slide, not a physical one, but the digital one does.
- hakz, on 09/04/2008, -5/+23wow, I was really worried that what he said was wrong. Thanks for reassuring me *thumbs up
- protogenxl, on 09/03/2008, -5/+60But have they made any of the simple fixes like changing "sort artist" on multiple files?
- aznpwnzor, on 09/04/2008, -3/+146or making it not bloatware on windows?
- jeffvvisoft, on 09/04/2008, -1/+31and it comes in a nifty 60mb download
- Mastrdebater, on 09/04/2008, -3/+3you can already do that by selecting several songs and right clicking to get info on multiple files.
- anymir, on 09/04/2008, -2/+4No, you can't. Sorting information can only be changed one song at a time.
- JamesKond, on 09/04/2008, -5/+4You can click on multiple songs at a time by holding CTRL and clicking them one by one, or pressing SHIFT and than begin on the first song you want to change and end with the last one and you get all the songs in between, dumbass
(you even made me log in to Digg...) - 80hd, on 09/10/2008, -0/+1Have any of you tried this in iTunes 8?!?
They also fixed changing video kind on multiple files amongst other things...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/80hd/2844863928/sizes ...
- sarixe, on 09/04/2008, -0/+2or porting it to linux? although admittedly, that's not a simple fix...
- protogenxl, on 09/04/2008, -1/+3It's called Amarok
- Suilenroc, on 09/05/2008, -0/+1I love Amarok, but in response...
It's called DRM. - sarixe, on 09/05/2008, -0/+1Amarok doesn't correctly support gapless mp3. fail.
- renesisx, on 09/04/2008, -1/+14... or ignoring Windows UI standards and trying to make it a Mac app on Windows. Which is an epic fail.
- pcx99, on 09/04/2008, -0/+3Or fixing the PAINFULLY slow (to the point of being unusable) album view in vista?
- juke1, on 09/08/2008, -0/+1Hey, wow, thank god I have a mac eh?
- doronster195, on 09/05/2008, -0/+1Or fixing the bug that only lets me add 4 songs to my library at a time. If I select more than 4 it doesn't add any of them.
- smakusdod, on 09/05/2008, -0/+1How about me not having to restore my iPhone every week? That would be a nifty fix...
- tygut1, on 09/03/2008, -8/+113Genius sounds pretty cool, but other than that I don't see any really cool new features. I mean who really uses the visualizer anyway?
- c010rb1indusa, on 09/04/2008, -4/+26Visualizer with a trippy song is the ultimate laser light show, specially on a big HDTV.
- jj101, on 09/04/2008, -0/+7Its true it is cool to look at - but after a couple of times...
- aceslick911, on 09/04/2008, -0/+7and what % of the pop has their itunes plugged into a HDTV?
visualizers were cool when winamp was around and was used to sell PCs at electronics stores but now Its just a gimmick... Id rather have my cpu do something else even tho i have more than 1 core - SeanCallan, on 09/04/2008, -2/+2I think the way to determine that % is to determine the number of people who use illicit substances and possess enough funding to purchase a HDTV.
On another note, the Mac Mini has been selling like hotcakes as more and more people acquire HDTVs and find that they could hook a computer up. The mini comes with a remote and iTunes and if you've got people over what else are you going to show on the TV while music is playing? a slideshow of you and your buddies at DragonCon? - Mushroonaut, on 09/04/2008, -3/+2yep I have a mac mini hooked up to my HDTV and use visualization when listening to music. Looks kick ass. Also watching HD podcasts is awesome.
- mgill3, on 09/04/2008, -1/+27I think it's just cool for parties if you wanna set up a playlist and let it run on your TV or computer. Other than that, oh wait, get really high and sit and watch it, that could be cool.
- dafragsta, on 09/04/2008, -2/+14It'd be a lot cooler if you did.
- BobbyMC, on 09/04/2008, -2/+14I approve of this reference.
- citirae, on 09/04/2008, -3/+72everyone who smokes pot uses visualizer.
- freqk, on 09/04/2008, -1/+28Milkdrop.
- aDJsavedmylife, on 09/04/2008, -2/+4everyone who uses visualizer smokes pot.
- lebatte, on 09/04/2008, -1/+3The visualizer is a tour bus through worlds with which I am well acquainted.
- smoothlou, on 09/04/2008, -2/+9I don't smoke pot, I just like using visualizer as a screensaver on my HDTV when playing music during dinner. I'd love to see new stuff in there.
- quomen, on 09/04/2008, -3/+34How about fixing the coding so it's not as slow as ***** on a Windows machine.
- aceslick911, on 09/04/2008, -0/+4no way man we have to have the apple logo. its totally worth the 2fps lag.
- ktxxx, on 09/04/2008, -0/+4Apple stickers make it faster.
- MacParrot, on 09/04/2008, -0/+2@ktxxx
Wrong, wrong, WRONG!
Only the new solid color Apple stickers make it faster. If you have older multi-color Apple stickers it automatically loads OS9!
There is a bad batch of purple acid...I mean multi-color Apple stickers out there! STAY AWAY from the multi-color Apple stickers!
- Lutz, on 09/04/2008, -2/+2Watch G-force as you listen to Stravinsky or classical music in general and you will understand.
- spamzor, on 09/04/2008, -13/+5*****, *****, *****
Motha motha *****
Motha motha ***** *****
Motha *****, motha *****
nyoonch, nyoonch, nyoonch
1,2
1,2,3,4
nyoonch, nyoonch, nyoonch
Smoking weed, smoking wiz
Doing coke, drinking beers
Drinking beers, beers, beers
Rolling fatties, smoking blunts
Who smokes the blunts?
We smoke the blunts
Rolling blunts and smoking 'em…- 1807, on 09/04/2008, -2/+515 bucks little man,
put that ***** in my hand.
If that money doesn't show,
then you owe me owe me owe.
I'm a jungle love, oh ee oh ee oh
I think I wanna know ya know ya, yea what?
- 1807, on 09/04/2008, -2/+515 bucks little man,
- cawpin, on 09/04/2008, -0/+1Well, if this Genius program is anything like the Apple Geniuses I'll have to put an appointment in Calendar to schedule a sync with my iPod and even then it won't be able to do it.
- protogenxl, on 09/04/2008, -0/+1The Winamp visualizers are far superior in the regards of looks and optimization
- j4200, on 09/04/2008, -0/+2what about using the ***** iphone/itouch's wifi to sync? they built this ***** marketing genius algorithm that will probably be as smart as my left nut in practice; but they couldn't figure out wireless sync. THE ***** APPLE? Get yo ***** together!
- nitsuaeppir, on 09/05/2008, -0/+0iTunes has a visualizer? :D
- c010rb1indusa, on 09/04/2008, -4/+26Visualizer with a trippy song is the ultimate laser light show, specially on a big HDTV.
- jonjonaramacon, on 09/03/2008, -19/+523How about telling Apple Software Update that updating iTunes doesn't mean installing Safari?
- mgill3, on 09/04/2008, -13/+15Although I'm a Safari for Windows user (Windows user for work, Mac user by choice) I think it's wrong that they force that... you should be able to say what you want, and what you don't want.
- jasmus, on 09/04/2008, -7/+18you can, with a tick box.
- ScrewedThePooch, on 09/04/2008, -0/+16Also, remove QuickTime requirement from iTunes and stop making it start in the tray when I boot (or at least give people the option to not have it boot at startup). Why does everyone think their app is so important that you must want it to start with Windows?
EDIT: And yes, I know how to disable it manually. - sensor, on 09/04/2008, -2/+2jasmus, i unticked both itunes and safari from the apple software update.... and it installed them anyway.
- pseudononymist, on 09/04/2008, -0/+7sensor: what are you updating then? Just cancel it.
The problem isn't that you can choose to not install Safari, it's that you shouldn't have to--it should be unticked by default.
- ExRe, on 09/04/2008, -4/+18Alright, anyone have any ideas for new things we can add to iTunes 8?
Well, is there any other buggy and vulnerable software we make that we can silently install at the same time? You know, something we poorly codded but blame our lack of quality on Microsoft for having such a terrible OS?- vibrate, on 09/04/2008, -6/+17You mean like IE and Word for OS X?
- MacParrot, on 09/04/2008, -0/+2What does fish have to do with software? I actually prefer hallibut over cod
- an10ae, on 09/04/2008, -16/+3Has it occurred to you that iTunes is in part the web-based iTunes store in which apple needs a reliable html/java engine that can understand CSS3 to display properly. Enter the need for a web-kit based renderer to be installed.
- grumpyrain, on 09/04/2008, -5/+12Give me a break.
You can go to the iTunes store via ie6 if you wanted, so there is no reason you would even need to install a third party embedded rendering engine, let alone install Safari on top of the rendering engine. If they do want to use webkit, then that is a couple of dlls, not something that tries to make itself the default browser every time you click a link.
- grumpyrain, on 09/04/2008, -5/+12Give me a break.
- CapeKid, on 09/04/2008, -3/+28You can turn this off. Next time it asks for an update, in that box there is an option in one of the menus to turn off specific portions of the update.
- cawpin, on 09/04/2008, -4/+2NOW there is, yes. That box wasn't available at first. Safari was forced on Windows users. They fixed fairly quickly but it shouldn't have been a problem in the first place.
- MtheoryX, on 09/04/2008, -0/+1@cawpin:
To be fair, Google Chrome also had a draconian section in the EULA, at first, that said they own rights to everything you input into the browser.
Of course, they too, fixed it quickly, and no one will talk about it a week from now. Yet here you are, what, almost a year later, talking about the Safari download?
They ***** up. They said they ***** up. They fixed it. Done. - danielsamuels, on 09/04/2008, -1/+1They won't forget - Apple haters need something to say.
- gtluke, on 09/04/2008, -0/+5how about when updating itunes it deletes the previous version? it took me digging and digging in my hard drive to find out WTF was taking up 2GB of space. it was something like 12 itunes installs, 12 versions of quicktime, and several install files of safari. it shoved them in applications data/user/apple blah blah
seriously, what the hell? why does it save every version? maybe to revert back to an old one in case of error, but seriously i'm not going back to version 4 which was still on my damn computer!- rizon, on 09/04/2008, -0/+2Version 4? You mean you've had Windows installed that long without having to reformat?
- j4200, on 09/04/2008, -0/+3Safari isn't the only extra it comes with now. Take a look in your control panel and notice the "MobileMe" controls.
- mgill3, on 09/04/2008, -13/+15Although I'm a Safari for Windows user (Windows user for work, Mac user by choice) I think it's wrong that they force that... you should be able to say what you want, and what you don't want.
- beerbarron, on 09/03/2008, -5/+102Wireless syncing with touch phone please
- c010rb1indusa, on 09/04/2008, -0/+12God how great would that be, it autosyncs while chillen in your pocket.
- Chaulis, on 09/04/2008, -0/+35And dies directly after.
- c010rb1indusa, on 09/04/2008, -6/+1I've had my iphone 2g for over a year and i still get about 3-4 days on a charge w/ wifi on. So i doubt it would make that big of a difference
- azazel00, on 09/04/2008, -0/+7Really? I can barely make it through my work day. I must admit, I'm constantly checking for emails and other stuff (aka. actively using the screen and connectivity). But unless you have it on stand-by full-time, I doubt you can get more than a whole day.
Oh, and I don't talk all that much on it. I'd rather save my minutes and use my work extension when possible. - Tenoq, on 09/04/2008, -0/+1I get two days standby with about 7 hours usage on the iPhone 3G. Wi-fi always on, screen about half-brightness+auto mode. Better battery life than any other PDA phone I've used, TBH, especially ones with a usable screen.
- jj101, on 09/04/2008, -1/+1This is the sole reason I don't have one. It would make my life so mych simpler in so many ways but running out of juice is not a good look.
- PathDaemon, on 09/04/2008, -0/+1http://fastmac.com/iv.php
Life saver. Expensive, but TRIPLES iPhone battery life. - j4200, on 09/04/2008, -1/+1It's not called a 2g idiot. Yes, Edge was the 2nd generation GSM network. That doesn't qualify the first iphone to be called a 2g though. It was the first. 3g is the new model.
Wifi "always on" doesn't mean anything for battery life either. Unless you're using it, it won't affect the battery.
That being said, I listen to music all day and take calls fairly often all day on mine. I make it fine. Surfing the net or playing games will eat your battery up fast though. Just don't be an idiot and surf digg where you can't charge.
I would love wireless Itunes sync. Mmmmm music without wires
- h0tpot, on 09/04/2008, -3/+2You can sync your contacts/cal on your touch with MobileMe, just not music yet.
- speakafreaka, on 09/04/2008, -3/+7When MobileMe works.
I still havent been able to make a connection - Tenoq, on 09/04/2008, -0/+3That isn't free like iTunes. :p
- speakafreaka, on 09/04/2008, -3/+7When MobileMe works.
- eldridgea, on 09/04/2008, -1/+1Here you go:
http://digg.com/software/Free_push_support_for_Gma ...
Combine this with that Simplify streaming music app and you're set! - reformation, on 09/05/2008, -2/+1What's a touch phone you tard?
- c010rb1indusa, on 09/04/2008, -0/+12God how great would that be, it autosyncs while chillen in your pocket.
- digitalpencil, on 09/03/2008, -2/+28"iTunes 8 includes Genius, which makes playlists from songs in your library that go great together. Genius also includes Genius sidebar, which recommends music from the iTunes Store that you don't already have."
so kind of a cross between Pandora and iTMS..- ferrariman60, on 09/04/2008, -7/+27except you pay apple. what a deal.
- wazzledoozle2, on 09/04/2008, -5/+8And just as equally useless.
- elveis, on 09/09/2008, -0/+1Just wait until Guru comes out for Windows Media Player.
- MrM4nager, on 09/04/2008, -10/+1So...it's last.fm?
- salmonmoose, on 09/04/2008, -0/+7More like Amarok.
- joeycerone, on 09/03/2008, -2/+40don't you mean who uses the visualizer sober?
- batmanz, on 09/04/2008, -6/+95Can they write it decently for Vista maybe? Or does Apple think that if they ignore Vista it will go away?
- h0tpot, on 09/04/2008, -29/+3I think Vista has to first work with ITSELF, decently.
- Rockkybox, on 09/04/2008, -4/+0Comedy genius
- h0tpot, on 09/05/2008, -0/+0I try.
- Rockkybox, on 09/07/2008, -0/+0[sarcasm]
- diggproof, on 09/04/2008, -2/+32I just love deleting registry keys to reclaim my CD Burner after iTunes is opened
- seraph582, on 09/04/2008, -0/+10if you save that registry key you keep having to change, you can make a shortcut to it and bind a hotkey to the shortcut, so after you run iTunes, you just hit Ctrl+Alt+C to get your CD Burner back
of course, I get what you're trying to say - it shouldn't be necessary anyway =p
- seraph582, on 09/04/2008, -0/+10if you save that registry key you keep having to change, you can make a shortcut to it and bind a hotkey to the shortcut, so after you run iTunes, you just hit Ctrl+Alt+C to get your CD Burner back
- artfiend77, on 09/04/2008, -19/+3No, i think it's a general consensus that if everybody ignores it it will go away, not just Apple.
- grumpyrain, on 09/04/2008, -5/+30Maybe then they could also try writing a version that actually looks and behaves like any other Windows application?
http://developer.apple.com/documentation/UserExper ...
Point 1: Users will learn your application faster if the interface looks and behaves like applications they’re already familiar with.
Maybe they give Winamp, Windows Media Player or any other media manager / player a whirl to see what their user base is actually familiar with.- vibrate, on 09/04/2008, -4/+17But all windows apps have wildly different interfaces...
- so1omon, on 09/04/2008, -3/+18OK... I'll bite. Neither Winamp or Windows Media Player look OR behave like any other Windows Application. So what was your point again?
I'm not saying that iTunes is better than either of those programs, but the particular argument you used is worthless. - mgill3, on 09/04/2008, -0/+15They're getting Windows users familiarized with the Mac style interface so that when they look at switching, Apple can say "If you know iTunes, you know Mac," since the interface is similar with every other app.
- renegadeafk, on 09/04/2008, -0/+7my problem with iTunes is not the UI it's that it'slow as *****. the UI is fine.
- digitalpencil, on 09/04/2008, -1/+2wtf are you talking about?!? WMP/Winamp look nothing like other Windows applications and are you honestly suggesting they overhaul the GUI just for Windows? That'd be good for brand continuity..
- renegadeafk, on 09/05/2008, -0/+1WMP actually fits in quite well and looks like any other vista application, although xp yes it does look out of place.
- afruff23, on 09/04/2008, -4/+9Forget Vista, they don't even officially support XP 64-bit. And by "officially support", I mean "allow it to run on despite being perfectly capable of running on".
- Jektal, on 09/04/2008, -0/+4Preach it, brother.
/still running some old-arse version of iTunes here which won't share music with the up-to-date version in the next room
- Jektal, on 09/04/2008, -0/+4Preach it, brother.
- sjbdallas, on 09/04/2008, -10/+3If we all ignore Vista maybe it will go away.
- aliguana, on 09/04/2008, -1/+11the problem is the reliance on Quicktime. iTunes would be a smallish, stable app (all those un-needed background processes aside) if it didn't insist on loading Quicktime on top of Windows audio system just to play stuff. Apple should use the native Windows AV backend, leaving iTunes to just be the database app it is. 90% of slowdowns would be solved by taking QT out of it.
Apple users might say: meh, get a real machine. Fair point. BUT... Windows users pay the same amount of money to Apple for their iPod/iPhone as Mac users do, they deserve the same quality of service and product support. I understand why Jobs wanted iTunes to be and work identically on both platforms, but that translated ultimately to porting the Mac app, instead of writing a native Windows one. I doubt very much that Windows users would complain if iTunes wasn't identical to the Mac version: look at the amount of people on Windows who use alternative clients, Winamp, Mediamonkey etc. All they/we want is something that works, is bug and bloat free.- ScrewedThePooch, on 09/04/2008, -0/+4Seriously, and I oh so love how QuickTime installs itself into Firefox so I can't actually download music or movies by clicking on them anymore.
The QuickTime problems are the sole reason I do not update iTunes until a major version increase. - vibrate, on 09/06/2008, -0/+1Good points, i totally agree.
- ScrewedThePooch, on 09/04/2008, -0/+4Seriously, and I oh so love how QuickTime installs itself into Firefox so I can't actually download music or movies by clicking on them anymore.
- h0tpot, on 09/04/2008, -29/+3I think Vista has to first work with ITSELF, decently.
- VodkanLemons, on 09/04/2008, -14/+233iTunes keeps getting loaded with more and more useless ***** everytime a new version comes out.
I just wish someone made a HACKED version of iTunes, with features that people actually want!- sockpuppets, on 09/04/2008, -0/+180Launch digg and itunes on vista at the same moment and time stands still. My cat floats around the living room in slow motion like he's in the matrix.
- bbqsalad, on 09/04/2008, -1/+8I love you sockpuppets
- heliox, on 09/04/2008, -3/+11I stopped using iTunes because it just used so many system resources. I switched to something with 1/4 of the resources and syncs my iPod and Archos just as well.
- BruceAnderson, on 09/04/2008, -1/+5Which is...?
Unfortunately, we Mac users have no alternatives. The last real alternative, Audion, died a quiet death years ago. And if we're being honest, it was never any real competition for iTunes. It was, first and foremost, an MP3 player. It made no attempt to be a library manager. Once upon a time that was adequate, but no more.
What iTunes needs is some serious competition. FooBar and WinAmp haven't brought the fight to Apple's doorstep, the Mac. Maybe they can't, or maybe they just don't care. It's a pity, because if Apple had to shape up and make iTunes into a high-performance app it would benefit users on both platforms. - Bennito, on 09/04/2008, -4/+1What are you on about? Foobar is in the house... iTunes is waiting on my doorstep. It would be nice if Apple would bring back a resource efficient well thought out iTunes... but I'm not surprised at the lackluster update.
- BruceAnderson, on 09/04/2008, -0/+6FooBar on the Mac? It's not on the FB2K site, and nothing recent shows up in Google, so you're going to have to tell me where it is.
- th3heretic, on 09/04/2008, -1/+4Winamp syncs to iPods.
- heliox, on 09/04/2008, -1/+2I didn't want to come off as spam. I use Media Center 12.
The paid version also allows me to distribute HD content to my TV.
I don't think it is Mac friendly. - dezee96, on 09/04/2008, -0/+1@BruceAnderson
iTunes runs smooth for me on all the mac systems I have used. Sure, I have witnessed versions of iTunes on Windows machines that would run like crap. The latest version isn't horrible on my XP system.
As an alternative:
I like VLC as a simple player on macs. VLC's interface is much more agreeable to me being that it is all in one window. - BruceAnderson, on 09/04/2008, -0/+1@dezee96 - iTunes does run pretty smoothly until you top around 10,000 tracks. From that point on the performance becomes more spotty. I've currently got around 23,000 tracks in my library and. It. *beach ball* Stutters. Badly. *beach ball*
The fact is that this is one of Apple's flagship applications - millions of people on both Windows and Mac use it daily. As such, it behooves them to make it the BEST application it can be. That means it needs to perform as well with 50,000 or 100,000 tracks as it does with 5,000 or 10,000 or 100.
@Heliox - thanks for your reply. Looks like a nice app, and yes, sadly, not Mac-friendly. Oh well. I'm used to that. :)
- BruceAnderson, on 09/04/2008, -1/+5Which is...?
- TheWorm, on 09/04/2008, -5/+1What more do you want besides play music?
- BruceAnderson, on 09/04/2008, -0/+4Well, that's it, isn't it? iTunes is a media library application. It's long since surpassed its original intent. It really needs a complete overhaul, to be re-written from the ground up to take full advantage of MacOS X's nifty built-in technologies (and yes, I think the Windows version should be re-built to take full advantage of whatever technologies Windows XP and Vista bring to the party to make iTunes work better).
Apple just doesn't CARE. As long as people keep buying iPods, Apple is going to keep piling feature after feature onto iTunes until it finally collapses, or the heat death of the universe, whichever comes first.
I wish they'd prove me wrong next week.
- BruceAnderson, on 09/04/2008, -0/+4Well, that's it, isn't it? iTunes is a media library application. It's long since surpassed its original intent. It really needs a complete overhaul, to be re-written from the ground up to take full advantage of MacOS X's nifty built-in technologies (and yes, I think the Windows version should be re-built to take full advantage of whatever technologies Windows XP and Vista bring to the party to make iTunes work better).
- TVarmy, on 09/04/2008, -5/+1If Apple ever releases an EEE PC clone, they probably will make a stripped down version, and let people on the regular machines and Windows choose between the versions.
- sanj0hn, on 09/04/2008, -0/+3Apple is never gonna release an EEE PC clone.
- BrettFromTibet, on 09/04/2008, -0/+2VodkanLemons,
Songbird is an open-source, nag-free media plater: http://getsongbird.com- brettg102, on 09/04/2008, -0/+2Jesus...can they rip off the itunes UI more? However, I like the iTunes UI and hate its slothlike attitude on my Vista machine...therefore ::downloads::
- BruceAnderson, on 09/06/2008, -0/+1To be fair, it's a pretty intuitive UI. Sources on the left, content on the right, controls up top or down below and a search field somewhere. I haven't tried SB since its first release. I wasn't too impressed with its performance or feature then. Maybe I should give it a look-see again and see if it's been improved substantially. One would hope so.
- miggie, on 09/04/2008, -0/+1Vodkan Lemons what features do you want? I want to be able to buy music from other countries. What features do you want. I also use emusic but they don't have a good international section.
- VodkanLemons, on 09/04/2008, -0/+3I want iTunes to monitor my music folders and automatically update playlists according to those folders.
That's what everyone wants.
- VodkanLemons, on 09/04/2008, -0/+3I want iTunes to monitor my music folders and automatically update playlists according to those folders.
- sockpuppets, on 09/04/2008, -0/+180Launch digg and itunes on vista at the same moment and time stands still. My cat floats around the living room in slow motion like he's in the matrix.
- deevay, on 09/04/2008, -15/+3My iPod is now complete...what about quicktime ???/ that buggy piece of *****.
- jamesduh, on 09/04/2008, -20/+3Dugg because it's from Kevin Rose.
- justinx0r, on 09/04/2008, -45/+37Nothing will ever top Winamp in my opinion.
- bmc152006, on 09/04/2008, -30/+5winamp is just as bloated, if not more.
- sirbeta, on 09/04/2008, -0/+18I couldn't disagree more.
- wazzledoozle2, on 09/04/2008, -2/+46HAHAHAHAH!!! You've got to be ***** kidding!
Winamp with 18,000 song library - 25mb of ram
Itunes with 0 song library - 100 mb of ram (includes apple mobile device service and all that other ***** itunes installs) - sockpuppets, on 09/04/2008, -2/+7Winamp drank all my beer and shaved "llama" into my kittens fur, I don't trust it.
- wazzledoozle2, on 09/04/2008, -4/+18I wish I could digg you for every feature Winamp has that Itunes lacks, and for every % less resources winamp consumes than iTunes.
- Virgule, on 09/04/2008, -2/+7totally. Winamp and xmms are still kings of music players that I like.
- seraph582, on 09/04/2008, -1/+4Until another player can use Milkdrop, there shall be none other for me!!!!
Milkdrop's bad to the bone, son!- Karmavs, on 09/04/2008, -1/+1AVS is better.
- antdude, on 09/04/2008, -2/+1v2, right?
- b1kamikaze, on 09/04/2008, -1/+1Yeah same for me The skins for winamp and the latest addons to the media library and new plugins like auto tag, calculate replay gain, new views in media library and auto playlist generation make it even better then it was before.
- Zippo, on 09/04/2008, -3/+2Winamp is definitely one of the programs I miss now that I've switched to the Mac.
While I much prefer iTunes for music management, Winamp has much better playback features, especially crossfading... Winamp is perfect for DJ'ing.
If anyone knows of any way to give iTunes on the Mac similar capabilities, I'll hug you.- cawpin, on 09/04/2008, -1/+2If you use crossfading, your opinion on music playback is null.
- Zippo, on 09/04/2008, -0/+1Care to explain why? Is there some sort of unwritten rule saying that if I'm to have any opinion on music, all my songs must play with a 2 second gap between them?
What the hell is wrong with me enjoying songs smoothly fading from one to the other? Or fading out/in when I hit pause/play? - Mithivh, on 09/04/2008, -0/+1Preferences -> Playback -> Crossfade Playback?
- bmc152006, on 09/04/2008, -30/+5winamp is just as bloated, if not more.
- grepgav, on 09/04/2008, -1/+74I would love to see them streamline it and try and cut back on resource usage.
It does some things extremely well but if I just want to listen to music, not involving syncing my iPod, I usually end up using a smaller app- 7goats, on 09/04/2008, -0/+1Yeah, I've been using MediaMonkey and has half the foot print [I have 164gb ipod], minimizes to my tasktab and has yet to try to sell me something or install crappy software. It does what it says on the tin: it plays MP3s. Novel idea!
- xbxoxy1, on 09/04/2008, -1/+9a wireless synching app for the upcoming ipods
- KillPenguin, on 09/04/2008, -11/+4In before "Kevin Rose is a douche".
- wukillabee, on 09/04/2008, -18/+11itunes sucks
use a decent app like winamp, foobar, ***** even wmp is better than itunes
also use quicktime alternative to play mov files, no need to install that ***** apple software quicktime- kcmo08, on 09/04/2008, -8/+1Winamp?
They still make that? - ohhaiitsryan, on 09/04/2008, -2/+3you know about that thing they call ipod, right?
- kcmo08, on 09/04/2008, -8/+1Winamp?
- MistaMatt90, on 09/04/2008, -18/+13Linux?
- seraph582, on 09/04/2008, -2/+2I don't think they're the kind of people that write Linux stuff - they kinda have differing values. Apple = cram cram cram cram cram stuff into one piece of software, Linux = small, efficient array of specialized processes to get the job done.
- tnoy, on 09/04/2008, -0/+3Most of the people that want iTunes ported to Linux want it for far more than playing their music.
iTunes on Linux will bring the iTunes music store, proper syncing with an iPod, proper support for the iPhone, etc. - BruceAnderson, on 09/04/2008, -0/+1@tnoy - but is there really that much of a market there? And would the market make Apple feel welcome? I'm guessing no. For every, "It's about time!" you'd probably have a dozen howls of indignation at proprietary, closed-source software which supports DRM.
I agree with you though. If they can make money selling their software and hardware to a particular market, they really haven't got much to lose by doing so. - unabatedshagie, on 09/04/2008, -0/+1I would love to see this happen but it probably never will.
I hate having to boot into windows just to sync my iphone and if I could use itunes in linux I would buy more music than I currently do.
- tnoy, on 09/04/2008, -0/+3Most of the people that want iTunes ported to Linux want it for far more than playing their music.
- marksands07, on 09/04/2008, -0/+5Songbird
- VodkanLemons, on 09/04/2008, -1/+1songbird, just like winamp, is not as good
they don't have that same playlist display on the side that iTunes has..
god i hate iTunes, and there's no decent program to replace it - waspbr, on 09/04/2008, -0/+1since when is itunes decent? at least in songbird you can are free to modify it as you please through add-ons and it is completely open source.
- AirRaven, on 09/04/2008, -0/+2Songbird's getting rapidly better and better, but it still runs at about the same speed as iTunes. Needs quite a bit more polish.
- VodkanLemons, on 09/04/2008, -1/+1songbird, just like winamp, is not as good
- mcmlxxii, on 09/04/2008, -0/+5Itunes is the most frustrating, proprietary, drm loving, lock you down, perform bewildering duplications of your entire collection, bloated, resource hogging, bandwidth greedy app I've never seen the like of on Linux. Please let's keep it that way.
- seraph582, on 09/04/2008, -2/+2I don't think they're the kind of people that write Linux stuff - they kinda have differing values. Apple = cram cram cram cram cram stuff into one piece of software, Linux = small, efficient array of specialized processes to get the job done.
- hakz, on 09/04/2008, -2/+9Doesn't really sound too exciting yet
- solidus636, on 09/04/2008, -1/+67Maybe they should fix the tagging. I had the EXACT same tags on my songs for an album, but the album would always be split into two separate albums. Extremely annoying.
- h0tpot, on 09/04/2008, -1/+10Agreed. Tagging has always been a huge issue for me. If it wasn't for this I might think iTunes is perfect.
- estvir, on 09/04/2008, -1/+12Any media player that can't monitor a freaking folder in 2008 is miles away from being perfect. It also has a boatload of other problems, too.
- meamog, on 09/04/2008, -0/+23I found a fix for that exact problem - clear the "album artist" field, save it, and then fill it in again. It works for me every time.
- shadowsurfr1, on 09/04/2008, -0/+8Or check for spaces at the end. In the search field put "[album] "
- RyeBrye, on 09/04/2008, -1/+2Or select all the files in the album and set the album field all at once (edit the tags for multiple files - one entry box) so they are guaranteed to be the same.
- solidus636, on 09/04/2008, -1/+5I tried that. it's typically the way to fix tags. It still didn't work.
- Bjornstrom, on 09/04/2008, -0/+5solidus636:
Follow meamog's tip:
"I found a fix for that exact problem - clear the "album artist" field, save it, and then fill it in again. It works for me every time."
- sjbdallas, on 09/04/2008, -1/+9It also seems like there's Apples version of tagging and everyone else's version of tagging. I used mediamonkey to get all my album art, fix all my tags, etc then imported my library into iTunes only to find that I had to redo it all over again so it would show up right in iTunes.
- solidus636, on 09/04/2008, -0/+2I was using iTunes for the tagging though, so the tagging should be the same for everything.
- maxwashere, on 09/04/2008, -0/+2Just delete them from iTunes and re-import them. It works for me.
- h0tpot, on 09/04/2008, -1/+10Agreed. Tagging has always been a huge issue for me. If it wasn't for this I might think iTunes is perfect.
- Phatlip012, on 09/04/2008, -4/+14Thats it? Whatever.
- Shaggy3, on 09/04/2008, -7/+1Dugg for the URL.
- abajaj2280, on 09/04/2008, -0/+2Buried for this comment
- Stangs55, on 09/04/2008, -13/+387You know what would be a REALLY crazy and SUPER DUPER advanced feature? The ability to monitor a music folder!!!
Oh mannn....Noooo wayyyy....That's crazzzzzzzy, you say!
But NO, I tell you! Some of the lesser known media players...well, actually, all other media players...already can do this. Little names like windows media player and winamp do this super duper advanced thing already and have been doing so for years!
Just imagine...an iTunes where you don't have 1000 duplicate and missing songs. And iTunes with little exclamation points next to every other song! An itunes where I say, "Hey there Apple! I keep my music in folder X! Please monitor that folder and add/delete songs as I do so that I'm not forced to use iTunes to manage files! KTHX!"
I know, it sounds crazy...but if they can afford those witty little commercials and a phone that sometimes gets signal on weekends, they can at least put a lil' R&D into better music managements...or ANY music management.- jjpertusch, on 09/04/2008, -4/+91holy *****, i always thought i was doing something wrong. this post makes me feel so much better.
- TreatsTheBear, on 09/04/2008, -16/+5It shouldn't. You're just doing the same thing wrong that he is.
- RubberBinder, on 09/04/2008, -17/+4KTHX, is that one of those weird codes they give your songs?
/sarcasm - ptFoe, on 09/04/2008, -16/+11***** Apple
- Kronos6948, on 09/04/2008, -6/+27Totally agree. I also wish they'd give you an option to ignore tracks that are less than 10 seconds. I have a crapton of drum samples I use for recording, and if I decide to randomize my whole library, every other song is a one hit.
- robzthird, on 09/04/2008, -0/+26You could make a smart playlist to isolate tracks less than ten seconds and then select them all and check the option skip when shuffling. I know, not ideal, but its something.
- TreatsTheBear, on 09/04/2008, -2/+31Or you could just not keep your drum samples in your music library.
- Tonamel, on 09/04/2008, -0/+4@Treats
Trust me. You don't want to sift through hundreds of instrument samples looking for just the right one without using some sort of media player. - renegadeafk, on 09/04/2008, -0/+2You could keep them in a seperate place then all you other music and use another media player like foobar 2000 or something small to manage them.
- Wickedest, on 09/04/2008, -0/+1You could trying creating a separate Library? It's pretty simple. In OS X just hold option when iTunes is opening. In Windows do the same only with shift.
- Kronos6948, on 09/04/2008, -0/+1It's a pain in the ass as of now, since they're already in there. I can't select multiple tracks to have them removed from my library. So, sitting there and checking off every single one hit (of which I have over 1000) is very tedious!
- reformation, on 09/05/2008, -0/+1You can - set up a smart playlist for everything under 10 seconds, go into that, select all, then hold down Option and Delete (on mac) - this removes them from your library.
I guess its Shift+Delete on windows?
- JonLatane, on 09/04/2008, -15/+101) iTunes->Preferences->Advanced (or wherever Preferences is on Windows)
2) Select whatever folder you want to keep your music in
3) Check "Keep iTunes Music Folder organized" and "Copy files to iTunes Music folder when adding to library"
4) Just drag new songs into your iTunes music library from your Downloads folder and delete the old copies
The metaphor really makes more sense in that it's just maintaining a library that's organized to be human-traversable in the filesystem.
The only drawback to this method is that you have to use Apple's own directory organization scheme. But hey, it's [Artist]/[Album]/[Track] [Title] so it's sensible enough.- LucerinRed, on 09/04/2008, -6/+10***** you, I shouldn't have to do things their way. I want to do it my way and they should make their program work to my preferences.
- JonLatane, on 09/04/2008, -5/+1You're using Apple's software. Submit a bug report to them. Same for anyone who agrees with him. If enough of you submit reports, they'll pay attention. Otherwise, not enough users are demanding it to make the investment worth it.
In my opinion, the extra overhead of disk I/O on every launch to scan for new songs and/or monitoring services is too high. It would be easy to do on the Mac since the Spotlight API is available with a constant live index, but hard on Windows. Vista has such low market penetration that however better their search APIs may be, they can't be used since most people are sticking with XP. The need to maintain the backwards compatibility is just of more importance. - abrasion, on 09/04/2008, -1/+11I know you're trying to help and I see you've been buried to a -3, I am sorry for that.
The problem with your helpful information is that it's STILL ***** LAME to have to do it that way.
The way the OP mentioned 'hey itunes, you dick - just monitor this ***** folder' is how it should be - not some ***** drag / drop / delete for itunes sake.
It's just plain dumb - but hey we all know apple, it's their way or the highway!
- donsherio, on 09/04/2008, -10/+5Dude, you should explore the preferences a bit more. Like JonLatane said, you can choose where iTunes looks and stores it's library of songs. iTunes looks after the organizing on it's own as well. Just copy new songs into the player, and delete the old ones. You can also make iTunes automatically import songs from a shared playlist like how LimeWire automatically has your songs imported into iTunes. Sure, you can't have multiple locations to store music, but thats like the only downfall...
- aphexflip, on 09/04/2008, -0/+5If itunes would simply scan folders for new music, we wouldn't need to waste our time with this *****.
- bbqsalad, on 09/04/2008, -0/+2That is a pain donsherio.. how about just add a simple feature like folder monitor instead?
- abrasion, on 09/04/2008, -1/+14I wish I could digg you twice - truth, truth truth :(
- znicket, on 09/04/2008, -10/+3I honestly don't get this. You want to keep on using a File Manager kind of system when there is a much better system in place?
My download program of choice is Limewire - all downloads go automatically into iTunes. I manage my songs through my song manager program (in this case iTunes) not through File Manager. Get out of 1998.- Eccles, on 09/04/2008, -0/+1I put my iTunes songs on a network drive. Always on, always connected to the same ethernet switch. (Why not an external? Because when I tried that, I could never get the Mac to sleep because it would instantly wake up with some remark related to the drive connection.)
For some reason the drive connection was lost to the Finder, and after remounting it I now have 5576 songs that I could manually reconnect to iTunes.
So yeah, a better system for handling iTunes files would be good.
- Eccles, on 09/04/2008, -0/+1I put my iTunes songs on a network drive. Always on, always connected to the same ethernet switch. (Why not an external? Because when I tried that, I could never get the Mac to sleep because it would instantly wake up with some remark related to the drive connection.)
- 1807, on 09/04/2008, -1/+8LOL! you use Iimewire? lol
- znicket, on 09/04/2008, -2/+1seems to work ok... suggestions welcome. (on mac).
- theone3, on 09/04/2008, -0/+1well.. frostwire for one.
and of course
http://www.acquisitionx.com/
http://www.transmissionbt.com/ - reformation, on 09/05/2008, -0/+1Limewire is the idiot's choice
- 1807, on 09/05/2008, -0/+1How about bit-torrent. Why get one file when you could get this discography?
- CarnivalOfDust, on 09/04/2008, -2/+1The '!' marks are what drive me nuts. If you have moved an album and you try to play it, it's fair enough that it can't find it. But once you tell it where one song is, why should it insist on making you manually look for *each one*?!?!
*Turns into The Hulk and smashes up the room* - massivemayhem, on 09/04/2008, -0/+4iTSfv (iTunes Store file validator) is what you need...
http://itsfv.sourceforge.net/ - bbqsalad, on 09/04/2008, -1/+1You couldn't be more correct. That is why I still use winamp the majority of the time.
- FlareHeart, on 09/04/2008, -3/+0I use Winamp to sync my iPod all the time and have banned all Apple Software from my computer due to their bloated status and annoying habit of installing extra software with the Apple "Update" installer. I use third party drivers for their .mov extensions and will not under any circumstances allow iTunes onto my computer.
I have had multiple problems with iTunes...the lack of auto-updating music folder status for one (I love winamp for the customization settings of this feature) and for another...iTunes decided one day to wipe out ALL of the tags on about half of my songs (about 1,000 songs were de-tagged) and I had to manually go back through all of them and fix them. Ever since then, I refuse to use iTunes. - renesisx, on 09/04/2008, -0/+1You need to tell us how you *really* feel.
- BlackPhantom, on 09/04/2008, -0/+3The trick is to get itunes to organise your music folder for you. Simply set it to copy songs and organise the copied files dragged into it and it will copy them to its very own folder and organise them perfectly. Then all you have to do is delete the original downloaded/ripped mp3s and if you get fed up an album delete it using itunes and it will delete the files from it's organised folder.
- znicket, on 09/04/2008, -1/+4Exactly. Some people want to treat iTunes as a mere media player instead of a media management program.
- shairston13, on 09/06/2008, -0/+1I understand what you are all saying. It sounds like most of these complaints are from Windows users of iTunes (I'm sure I'll be corrected if that is not true). I switched over to the Mac about 2 years ago and after I read through these comments it sounds like this may be more of a Windows vs. Mac mindset difference. In Windows I tend to use Windows Explorer to move files around and "manage" my music, videos, files, etc. However, when I switched over to the Mac I found that the focus is really on letting the apps make your life easier. Instead of dragging music into the "Music" (i.e. equivalent of My Music on Windows) folder I started dragging music into iTunes and letting it process it and place it where it wanted to. I have iTunes set to copy music and keep my folder organized and I have no problems with duplicates or missing files. This is not the way I would have done it in Windows using another app besides iTunes.
- jjpertusch, on 09/04/2008, -4/+91holy *****, i always thought i was doing something wrong. this post makes me feel so much better.
- lib0233, on 09/04/2008, -7/+1I agree with you solidus, that is perhaps the most frustrating thing about iTunes.
And do we know when this is going to be available?- skidooer, on 09/04/2008, -0/+3Yes, I too am curious as to when this will be available.
September 9th, by the way.
- skidooer, on 09/04/2008, -0/+3Yes, I too am curious as to when this will be available.
- jhails, on 09/04/2008, -2/+17When are we going to get wireless updates for iPods? Why are my portable devices still chained to my computer? How about it Steve?
- Karmavs, on 09/04/2008, -0/+2They’ll be ‘chained to your computer’ for charging anyway…
- Buzzy, on 09/04/2008, -1/+2Not necessarily. My iPod stays on a charger in my car 24/7 because I only listen to it during my daily commute. The only time I connect it to my computer is to sync podcasts.
I dream of a device that will sync via wifi at night while my car is parked in the garage. That way I can wake up each morning and start my commute with fresh podcasts automagically.
- Buzzy, on 09/04/2008, -1/+2Not necessarily. My iPod stays on a charger in my car 24/7 because I only listen to it during my daily commute. The only time I connect it to my computer is to sync podcasts.
- Karmavs, on 09/04/2008, -0/+2They’ll be ‘chained to your computer’ for charging anyway…
- ArmedRebel, on 09/04/2008, -0/+11All I honestly care about, is being able to sort numbers in before letters.
- CarnivalOfDust, on 09/04/2008, -0/+2Would it really be that difficult for them to give us the option? Just a little list menu allowing us to prioritize A-Z, 0-9, symbols. Would the development cost really cripple Apple's vast empire?
Every single problem that I have with iTunes could be fixed by their allowing us to personalise our player just a little.
I want to be able to organise my left-hand menu (move Movies to below Podcasts, move my iPod list below my Playlists, etc)! - cawpin, on 09/04/2008, -0/+1That'll happen right along with putting folders first in Finder.
Edit: And don't tell me about Pathfinder or some other pay for program. This is a basic OS function and is missing from OS X which is built on BSD, which has had it forever. I'm not saying make it the default, just give me the option. It's a simple check box.;
- CarnivalOfDust, on 09/04/2008, -0/+2Would it really be that difficult for them to give us the option? Just a little list menu allowing us to prioritize A-Z, 0-9, symbols. Would the development cost really cripple Apple's vast empire?
- wazzledoozle2, on 09/04/2008, -9/+87Yet more bloat on top of the 100mb footprint of iTunes and all it's supporting services?
Give me a ***** break Apple. Itunes is a piece of *****, fix your current mess before even thinking of adding new features.- skidooer, on 09/04/2008, -3/+13Agreed. It seems so silly to me that one would use a music player to install applications to a cellular phone, for example.
- donsherio, on 09/04/2008, -5/+4skidooer:
uhhh... isn't that better than having just another program to do something iTunes can already do with syncing the iPods?? I mean... the iPhone has a music player on it, a photo viewer on it, applications, and basically everything the iPods have... it just has the added feature of a phone... so it would make so much more sense to use iTunes to sync it, since its basically a supped up iPod... - skidooer, on 09/04/2008, -2/+1@donsherio - No, OS X is designed so that applications can form one cohesive unit without being one monolithic application. For example, look at how Mail, iCal, and Address Book work together without having to be one giant application like Outlook. This would be a more logical approach for iTunes to take.
But I guess as long as Windows, with it's monolithic application stance, remains a big player in the iPod buying market, Mac users will be stuck with it. - FiP0, on 09/04/2008, -1/+2It makes more sense on Mac OS ... Itunes is completely integrated.
- donsherio, on 09/04/2008, -5/+4skidooer:
- dn11, on 09/04/2008, -9/+3you use windows don't you?
- aliguana, on 09/04/2008, -1/+12so do 70% of iPod users. Your point being?
- dn11, on 09/04/2008, -1/+5you don't need to use iTunes. Use an alternative. Winamp is the best IMO
- aliguana, on 09/04/2008, -1/+11you should have a screen of ticky-boxes when installing iTunes:
* install bonjour
* install Airtunes support
* install iPhone support
* install AppleTV support
and you just install the ones you need. I thought forcing software onto your machine that you don't want is both frowned on and practically outlawed on the Windows side? Oh, I forgot, Safari... *sigh*
- skidooer, on 09/04/2008, -3/+13Agreed. It seems so silly to me that one would use a music player to install applications to a cellular phone, for example.
- seastobble, on 09/04/2008, -1/+6I'm most looking forward to the ability to not have to think about what music I like; iTunes 8 can just tell me!
- tapeworm77, on 09/04/2008, -4/+5How about the ability to watch a folder for new music. That way I can set my P2P program to download to the iTunes music folder, not to mention add that folder to other computers across the network. No more broken song links or adding songs manually after you download them.
- seastobble, on 09/04/2008, -4/+2I don't know what you are talking about; I have it set to add music from my "music" folder. then limewire downloads to my "music" folder. all my music from limewire is added directly to itunes without me having to do a single thing. am I missing out on something? I'm not calling you a dumbass, but this is just how mine is set up and I think this is what you mean? I'm on a mac too though...
- tapeworm77, on 09/04/2008, -0/+1I think Limewire has iTunes integration built-in.
- CarnivalOfDust, on 09/04/2008, -1/+3Seriously, if you're pirating so much music that you don't have the time to cut and paste it into My Music and then drag it to iTunes, you shouldn't be posting about it on Digg...
- moisie, on 09/04/2008, -0/+2A lot of my apps automatically add stuff to iTunes, for those that don't I have Hazel to monitor whichever folder they save their music to and then it adds it to iTunes.
- seastobble, on 09/04/2008, -4/+2I don't know what you are talking about; I have it set to add music from my "music" folder. then limewire downloads to my "music" folder. all my music from limewire is added directly to itunes without me having to do a single thing. am I missing out on something? I'm not calling you a dumbass, but this is just how mine is set up and I think this is what you mean? I'm on a mac too though...
- massaks, on 09/04/2008, -13/+2
- roxgod666, on 09/04/2008, -0/+0simple answer: no
- T8erT0T, on 09/04/2008, -1/+9When Itunes stops burning through memory like a vicious crack whore and fervently insists on scanning everything for gapless playback when I clearly don't want it I'll think about it.
- nottanner, on 09/04/2008, -0/+5You operate under the implicit assumption that all non iTunes downloading is done illegally.
Please don't say pirates are screwing over the music industry. The argument is so debunk now. Go to the show, buy a shirt and support the band in a way that actually generates revenue.- venomoushealer, on 09/04/2008, -0/+1It would sound better if you learned how to punctuate. Thank you.
- wukillabee, on 09/04/2008, -0/+1someones mad because they dont know how to pirate......... bawwwww
anyways if your gonna buy music use amazon, they provide songs in vbr-lame mp3 files, no ***** drm like itunes.. ive bought some with pepsi pts :)- venomoushealer, on 09/04/2008, -0/+1and that reason is: to ***** with us.
- macchappy, on 09/04/2008, -0/+1Venomoushealer, has the Apple's Fairplay EVER stopped you from doing something legal?
- Suilenroc, on 09/05/2008, -0/+1Mac, yes, yes it has. I can't play my DRMd music under linux in amarok. I bought the music, it's the same computer, just with dual-booting, and I can't play it.
- nwoolls, on 09/04/2008, -6/+41And yet it still cannot monitor a folder for new music...
- donsherio, on 09/04/2008, -15/+2sure u can... go change ur preferences silly
- nextstealth, on 09/09/2008, -0/+0No, you can't, and the most graceful solution is to use a 3rd party program to do it. Genius is all well and good but how about stuff that people actually need?
- nickbr00tality, on 09/04/2008, -7/+2Genius sounds pretty cool..
- brainscab, on 09/04/2008, -0/+1meh, more bloatwear... just make sure it can play a full movie without getting choppy.
- Aitese, on 09/04/2008, -0/+3Only if it PLAYED the songs it was recommending in full like Pandora/Last.fm, even only twice or three times, rather than just tell me "hay...buy this!" and bothering me all the time to go shopping
. - Avian00, on 09/04/2008, -0/+2Actually it sounds pretty boring and only a mechanism for them to push more iTunes Store purchases on me.
- st3vo, on 09/04/2008, -1/+2Yeah, so i'm still waiting on ASIO support-- Apple?
- wangxiaoyu, on 09/04/2008, -2/+0good!!
- Books, on 09/04/2008, -1/+2Finally, something to confirm an update to the iPod Classic.
- Roxkis, on 09/04/2008, -2/+3As soon as Floola starts supporting iPhones itunes is getting the axe!
- chinaafropirate, on 09/04/2008, -2/+17I really hope Apple lowers the amount of memory usuage in iTunes for Windows....and gets rid of all the extra software they bundle with it when it really isn't necessary.
- brainscab, on 09/04/2008, -0/+2and it skips during rented movies
- Karmavs, on 09/04/2008, -4/+1Quicktime is necessary; Bonjour is necessary (for sharing anyway), Safari isn’t bundled.
- Neiby, on 09/04/2008, -8/+5http://digg.com/people/Take_Digg_back
- cawpin, on 09/04/2008, -0/+2Ass.
- douglasr007, on 09/04/2008, -8/+4iPod Classic (2nd generation)
FUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCK
***** ***** ***** ***** ***** ***** you know I recently bought a damn iPod Classic- xelloss, on 09/04/2008, -3/+2My friend just bought an 80 GB. Hopefully he won't find out otherwise he will be pissed.
- TreatsTheBear, on 09/04/2008, -0/+4It's probably not going to be much different. It's the classic. How much could they change it?
- donsherio, on 09/04/2008, -1/+1if you JUST bought it... return it >.> :P just be like, oops, wrong product...
- IntoxicatedLuke, on 09/04/2008, -0/+7When are people going to realize that new iPods are most likely going to be announced every year around September
- kimad, on 09/04/2008, -1/+0Honestly, I recently-ish bought a Classic too, but I'm actually pleased they're releasing a new version. The original iPod Classic is a broken-ass piece of *****. Massively unresponsive click wheel, worse quality sound compared to 5th gen iPods, and the volume doesn't go as high. Hopefully the 2nd gen Classic will be better.
- hotpuck6, on 09/04/2008, -0/+1I do believe apple lets you exchange it if you bought it in the 2 weeks prior to the release.
- FlyingPhotog, on 09/04/2008, -0/+2As with any other product, "classic" means "obsolete."
- reformation, on 09/05/2008, -0/+1Serves you right for not checking idiot.
- xelloss, on 09/04/2008, -3/+2My friend just bought an 80 GB. Hopefully he won't find out otherwise he will be pissed.
- ptFoe, on 09/04/2008, -1/+29Also included is Safari 4
- spkrcity, on 09/04/2008, -7/+2I wonder how much Apple paid Kevin to game his own website in an effort to promote their product.
- TreatsTheBear, on 09/04/2008, -2/+3$0
Wonder no longer. - gasin, on 09/04/2008, -1/+1I wonder iff Kevinn Rosee alwayss writess likee thiss!
- TreatsTheBear, on 09/04/2008, -2/+3$0
- diabulos, on 09/04/2008, -0/+3What about allow us to batch change properties such as that on the Video tab of a video (Video Kind) so it can be sorted correctly as TV show or Movie or Music video? at the moment Video kind (from the Video tab can only be changed one by one.
- ZigVicious, on 09/06/2008, -0/+1http://dougscripts.com/itunes/scripts/ss.php?sp=se ...
I use it all the time.
- ZigVicious, on 09/06/2008, -0/+1http://dougscripts.com/itunes/scripts/ss.php?sp=se ...
- markusfarkus, on 09/04/2008, -2/+10All I really want is a faster storage mechanism. iTunes is too slow for large libraries.
- vibrate, on 09/04/2008, -3/+3super fast with my library of 65000 songs in OS X
on my Vista partition it seems fine too, not really sure why all the windows peeps are whining so much - maybe ive been lucky?- xxlarryxx, on 09/04/2008, -0/+2On OSX, my slightly smaller library loads slow cuz it's on an external FW drive. I'm not sure when this changed, but earlier versions of iTunes were much faster.
- bollweevils, on 09/04/2008, -0/+2There's no way a library that big runs smoothly in OSX.
What hardware are you using?
I've got a library a bit bigger than that and every time I search for a song, make a rating change, or basically do anything I get the beachball spin for a good minute. It's almost useless. Do you have any metadata for the songs?- vibrate, on 09/06/2008, -0/+1dual 2.66 / 4gb ram / 8800gt
seriously its smooth and fast to use. Changing metadata for a lot of tracks takes a while, but adding an album name and changing artwork for 12 tracks say takes about 5 seconds or so
and yeah the majority of my library is fully tagged and has artwork - vibrate, on 09/06/2008, -0/+1are your mp3s on an external HD? because that will slow itunes right down
- vibrate, on 09/06/2008, -0/+1dual 2.66 / 4gb ram / 8800gt
- moisie, on 09/04/2008, -0/+1I have 8064 songs, 83 films and 802 TV shows and the only time my iTunes is slow is if I'm ripping a CD and then try to edit/delete something at the same time.
- reformation, on 09/05/2008, -0/+1I used to keep my library (about 1000 albums) on an external drive (OS X) - but it was very slow to do anything. Moved it to my internal and now it does everything instantly. Its at least 5 times faster.
- vibrate, on 09/06/2008, -0/+1very true, i did the exact same thing
- vibrate, on 09/04/2008, -3/+3super fast with my library of 65000 songs in OS X
- LavaWarrior, on 09/04/2008, -5/+2How about they put out a decent piece of software, i see them spending all this time on the iPhone and itouch and all their other products where there is money to be made, because everyone has to have the newest ipod even tho they have the old one.
The thing is, apple doesn't have to improves its itunes, it has no motive, there is no money to be made, so why would they bother, instead, they release little patched and update here and there, just to show they aren't sitting on their asses the whole time. - BayAreaKing, on 09/04/2008, -0/+2Wonder how grid view will look like?
- Karmavs, on 09/04/2008, -0/+7Like a grid.
- leerayIG88, on 09/04/2008, -0/+1Nicely done.
Also I noticed a I have dandruff.
- leerayIG88, on 09/04/2008, -0/+1Nicely done.
- Karmavs, on 09/04/2008, -0/+7Like a grid.
- radda, on 09/04/2008, -1/+6*ahem*
www.songbirdnest.com- vibrate, on 09/04/2008, -4/+1its alright but no smart playlists
- radda, on 09/04/2008, -1/+2Except that it does.
- estvir, on 09/04/2008, -1/+1They suck though.
- abajaj2280, on 09/04/2008, -0/+2Snaaap. This is pretty nice, except that it can't sync apps :/
- schadenfreude87, on 09/04/2008, -0/+3I just installed this to see what it was like, hoping it would be like iTunes but easier on resources.
It's currently using 600MB of memory. Shame.
- vibrate, on 09/04/2008, -4/+1its alright but no smart playlists
- ronsta, on 09/04/2008, -4/+5PLS PLS PLS PLS PLS have there be a way to easily disable gapless playback check
- NickLachey, on 09/04/2008, -0/+1Here you go...
http://mikevee.com/?p=39
- NickLachey, on 09/04/2008, -0/+1Here you go...
- mongrel, on 09/04/2008, -3/+3I hope it hoards another 70 MB of memory this update. Alas who am I kidding, it's still my favorite.
- ferrariman60, on 09/04/2008, -4/+11How about a list I care about?
-patches, instead of whole new installs every time version x.x.x+1 comes out
-Removal of Mobileme from my control panel, since I will never use it
-new, lighter weight player all around
-More, but those are at the top of the list. Until then, no itunes for me. - osrevad, on 09/04/2008, -7/+1Notice that it mentioned the iPod Classic SECOND GENERATION. Honestly, that's what I'm looking forward to. I love my iPod classic, but they haven't released a new one in years.
- johnjohn7188, on 09/04/2008, -0/+7Wtf are you talking about? The iPod classic just came out last year....
- doublem9876, on 09/04/2008, -0/+4Really? They haven't released a new iPod classic in years? Last time I checked, the iPod classic was released around this time last year.
- joshualamgroup, on 09/04/2008, -0/+2really? ALL (I repeat, ALL) iPods get updated every year..
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