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Why iPhone +SDK, Firmware Is Better Than Your Jailbroken One
popularmechanics.com — With today ’s announcements, this over-hyped device has actually become more useful, powerful and promising. Not because it’s the best computer on the market, but because it’s the one in your pocket. PopMech is telling Jailbreakers to bring it on if they can beat it.
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- Rockmaninoff, on 01/16/2008, -42/+71Why Popular Mechanics is wrong:
Jailbreak = free.
SDK, updates = $$$.
I'd rather have my jailbroken iPod Touch and have the freedom with it to do what I please, thank you.- mediaphile, on 01/16/2008, -6/+10Exactly. It's futile to attempt to lock down devices. I can't think of any recent major devices that have stayed unhacked. I realize Apple has an arrangement with AT&T that prohibits VoIP services from running on the iPhone, but with data transfer becoming more and more important than voice communications, it's silly to resist progress just for the sake of a buck.
Hell, the only reason I got an iTouch was to Jailbreak it.- yagran, on 01/16/2008, -11/+25.5G and 6G ipods are still unhacked. :D
- digudown, on 01/16/2008, -1/+6I think you live under a rock, use google and educate yourself.
- Speed, on 01/17/2008, -0/+1My 5.5G iPod is hacked...
- yagran, on 01/20/2008, -0/+1i retract the 5.5G part, i only checked wether ipod linux had been released for it yet.
- yagran, on 01/16/2008, -11/+25.5G and 6G ipods are still unhacked. :D
- yagran, on 01/16/2008, -7/+46err the title says iphone therefore,
Jailbreak = free (apart from some apps which cost)
SDK = free (apart from some apps which cost)
so they seem pretty much on par- Firehed, on 01/16/2008, -1/+34SDK = doesn't exist yet.
We'll start comparing things in six weeks or so when we start seeing Apple-sanctioned iPhone apps.
- Firehed, on 01/16/2008, -1/+34SDK = doesn't exist yet.
- Balanced, on 01/16/2008, -2/+18Waitaminute, when did Apple say they were charging for the SDK or the iPhone updates?
(iPod Touch updates are fee-required, sadly.)- Rockmaninoff, on 01/16/2008, -2/+8I was referring to the applications being charged for. My post wasn't too clear. The SDK will be free, and the firmware updates are as well, but once everyone has the SDK, apps are going to cost money. And the 45 apps I currently have, even if they are only $2 apiece, are still going to rack up.
- phoomp, on 01/16/2008, -5/+8The fact that they're charging for Touch updates suggests that they might also do so for the iPhone.
- cleverboy, on 01/16/2008, -1/+2Nope. People forget that iPhone owners already pay Apple monthly. Expect them to charge developers somehow though. They're not a charity, and they have to support the insanity that breaks out.
- phoomp, on 01/17/2008, -0/+4What insanity? You mean like the current insanity from jailbroken apps? Or like the insanity around 3rd party apps on *any* OS? I don't recall Apple supporting any problems caused by 3rd party applications in Leopard ...
- cleverboy, on 01/16/2008, -1/+2Nope. People forget that iPhone owners already pay Apple monthly. Expect them to charge developers somehow though. They're not a charity, and they have to support the insanity that breaks out.
- MadKennyP, on 01/16/2008, -2/+14I believe Apple has stated that developers will be allowed to provide their SDK apps via iTunes at no cost if they choose.
- phoomp, on 01/16/2008, -0/+9Source?
- FoxMcCloud1, on 01/16/2008, -9/+2The iphone update does not cost money you idiot. The iPod Touch update costs twenty bucks so if your dumb enough to buy one of those things (and not jailbreak it) pull out a twomper and get some new gizmos chump boy.
- ThatsUnpossible, on 01/16/2008, -12/+7Jailbreak is only free if your time is worthless.
- phoomp, on 01/16/2008, -1/+12Those 5 minutes, you mean?
- poonaka, on 01/16/2008, -0/+5Wasn't the original quote "Linux is only free is your time is worthless"?
- clari0n, on 01/16/2008, -1/+1The stability of a jailbroken iPhone should be taken into account as well. Having my applications (sometimes even the Apple-provded apps) crash, and having to restart my phone in order to use it, is more time spent, not to mention if I ever want to update my phone to the next official firmware I must wait until the hackers have broken it, and go through the process of jailbreaking again, which may or may not be simple with each update.
I just updated to 1.1.3 after having a jailbroken iPhone for the past few months. I'm not really missing it, and I'm willing to pay a little money for the convenience of having my phone work when I needed it to, and to support the developers.
- imcquill, on 01/16/2008, -2/+4took me about an hour for the whole jailbreak process. Downgrade to 1.1.1, jailbreak, upgrade to 1.1.2, find out where to get iphone apps, install iphone apps. In total, about an hour.
I installed the five apps yesterday for $20, and it took 2 minutes. Plus I get bug fixes and multi-touch typing (can put down second finger before second finger lifted), and updated maps. And I can add bookmarks to the home screen. That was worth it for me already to go legit before the SDK is even out..- Speed, on 01/17/2008, -1/+4Well, for people like me, an hour is worth saving the money since I make $10/hour, so spending the $20 would be like spending two hours and two minutes.
- johnpaul191, on 01/16/2008, -1/+3This is nonsense! the SDK is still a month away, let alone the possible flow of apps as a result of it.
The iPod touch "had to charge for the upgrade" is because it adds features, and the iPod touch is a purchase it and you own it device, as opposed to the iPhone (requiring subscription). *Supposedly* Sarbanes-Oxley requires them to charge in this case. Makes no sense to me, but even lawyers argue how the crooked line is drawn as to what is included and what is not.
Why did Apple have to charge to unlock 802.11N on my iMac and add features to the iPod Touch, but not AppleTV or an iPhone? Why didn't the 10.5 disc include the power to unlock 802.11N? So the AppleTV upgrade is to allow rentals (a revenue stream situation), but the iPod touch allows you to check email.
SO ANYWAY, when the iPhone SDK produces apps, it will be up to developers to charge. Like the wonderful world of Palm, i would think some apps would be free and some would cost. There also may be free versions of paid apps. who knows. can't we just wait 2 months and see what happens instead of declaring something that is 90% assumption?
As far as SDK apps vs jailbreak.... the point of the SDK is that the phone will survive software updates. If the iPhone app environment is cool, i bet most jailbreaker coder types make the hop and have one less headache. why not? - frosted, on 01/16/2008, -1/+3WTF? Jailbreak= free, true.
SDK=free True
iPhone updates=FREE
WTF are you on?
I just updated last night, for free.
- mediaphile, on 01/16/2008, -6/+10Exactly. It's futile to attempt to lock down devices. I can't think of any recent major devices that have stayed unhacked. I realize Apple has an arrangement with AT&T that prohibits VoIP services from running on the iPhone, but with data transfer becoming more and more important than voice communications, it's silly to resist progress just for the sake of a buck.
- hadiz, on 01/16/2008, -7/+32Sure the ability to move icons around is nothing new to hacked phones, even if it is presented in a slick Apple sort of way, but still they don't let you change that damn black background, or the dock, the icons themselves, etc. and that's just the tip of the iceburg.
And am I the only one that thinks putting a bookmark of a website on the home screen is pointless? Safari has a bookmark section for a reason. The only feature they have in 1.1.3 that I'd like to try is the new google maps update, but hell you can already do that stuff with the 3rd party apps that are out there now. I'll just wait till 1.1.3 is jailbroken and have the best of both worlds.- TomKarpik, on 01/16/2008, -2/+12Apple has tried to follow a "web applications are applications too!" paradigm -- hence "bookmarks" on the home screen. They're not bookmarks, they're apps.
Personally, I think web applications = FTL.- bryan879, on 01/16/2008, -1/+4I personally like the option though. There are several sites it hit on a very regular basis (digg, facebook, houston traffic maps) and it's nice to just hit one icon instead of safari, bookmarks, .
- dshPls, on 01/16/2008, -0/+2Google maps will now display traffic, no need for an additional website!
- dshPls, on 01/16/2008, -0/+1First thing I added was the new google mobile tools to my home. It functions just like any other iPhone app.
- bryan879, on 01/16/2008, -1/+4I personally like the option though. There are several sites it hit on a very regular basis (digg, facebook, houston traffic maps) and it's nice to just hit one icon instead of safari, bookmarks, .
- spyraled, on 01/16/2008, -1/+3It also allows you to "save" the page position and zoom level so you don't have to zoom and scroll around after you've already had to open Safari, then bookmarks, then tap the one you want.
- likwidfuzion, on 01/16/2008, -2/+1And this convenience saves me 5 seconds of my life. Sure is a bargain versus all the third party apps that are far more interesting and useful.
/sarcasm
- likwidfuzion, on 01/16/2008, -2/+1And this convenience saves me 5 seconds of my life. Sure is a bargain versus all the third party apps that are far more interesting and useful.
- JohnBooty, on 01/16/2008, -1/+2"And am I the only one that thinks putting a bookmark of a website on the home screen is pointless?"
You don't understand that reducing one of the most common uses of the iPhone (accessing websites and/or webapps) from a multi-step process to a single-step process is useful and convenient?
I guess you don't have any shortcuts (Start Menu, Dock, or the Linux desktop equivalents) to applications on your computer? Easy enough to just navigate your directory hierarchy and launch apps that way, right?- ricodued, on 01/16/2008, -0/+3I dont put a digg.com shortcut on my desktop, no. I open Firefox and click 'digg' in my _bookmarks_ toolbar.
- roosterjm2k2, on 01/16/2008, -1/+1I had a jailbroken phone...i reverted for 1.1.3 ...
wanna know why? because there is all of 3 or 4 useful apps out there. Most are crap. Most are buggy at best. Some good ideas...but aside from summerboard...nothing truly usefull... - madwh, on 01/16/2008, -1/+1the future iPhone http://digg.com/apple/iPhone_Air
- TomKarpik, on 01/16/2008, -2/+12Apple has tried to follow a "web applications are applications too!" paradigm -- hence "bookmarks" on the home screen. They're not bookmarks, they're apps.
- Ignited, on 01/16/2008, -4/+16Hmm, feed the machine money for access to SDK'd programs that function relatively similar to those of the installer.app ones? or just chill out while the community not only hacks this firmware but then busts down your sdk'd programs and makes them available for free on installer?
Either way,
in the end we still have Erica, Modmyifone, iphonedevteam etc etc etc.
I concider our side has the favorites =p.- roosterjm2k2, on 01/16/2008, -0/+4Where has it been said that SDK apps cannot be free?
- roosterjm2k2, on 01/16/2008, -0/+4Where has it been said that SDK apps cannot be free?
- sn00kie, on 01/16/2008, -13/+76Oy Vey, this is ridiculous. I can hold my phone up to a car speaker and my phone can tell me what song is playing. I can VNC into my server and check out my chats and torrent downloads. Is my jailbroken iphone still cool? Are you ***** kidding me, I got this all for free and you're telling me that it's going to be cooler to have to wait and pay for the same programs? Holy *****, Fake GPS? Heard of Navizon? I had this months ago. OMG, Multiple Home Screens. I can't believe I'm the first one saying this, but doesn't anyone notice this new feature is IDENTICAL TO SPRINGBOARD. The fancy gui for re-arranging icons isn't worth breaking my jailbroken iphone which can already do that with third party software. ***** this, buried for retarded.
- SpacePirate, on 01/16/2008, -3/+8FYI, springboard uses the built-in multiple pages feature. Apple put it there, springboard (3.0) made use of it.
- TomKarpik, on 01/16/2008, -3/+4Summerboard's only innovation was that it allowed you to scroll your screen icons up and down.
The functionality for smoothly scrolling icons sideways, and the indicator dots on the bottom, are something that's ALREADY BUILT INTO SPRINGBOARD. The moment you have more icons than you can fit on a single screen, Springboard enables the indicators and scrolling functionality. The only hack needed is to manually add the first application to the plist, because Apple deliberately designed the 1.1.x versions of Springboard to hide everything past the iTunes music store.
Summerboard has done nothing, and they have written no code, to make this possible. It's something already built into the iPhone's stock Springboard application.
PS: Summerboard is the 3rd party hack. Springboard is the name of the application that displays the home screen. - bryan879, on 01/16/2008, -2/+2Apps on installer are not all free some are trials and want money. Devs will be able to put apps up on the itunes store for free if they so choose. It won't change unless the dev wants it to change.
- starf, on 01/16/2008, -4/+5I wish digg had a buried for retarded option.
- sanotaan, on 01/16/2008, -6/+5"I can hold my phone up to a car speaker and my phone can tell me what song is playing. I can VNC into my server and check out my chats and torrent downloads. Is my jailbroken iphone still cool?"
if that's the ***** you're using your jailbroken phone for, it never was cool
starf: agreed, this should be buried as ***** retarded- sn00kie, on 01/26/2008, -0/+1He meant the article. But that's the irony of your comment.... so you're right.... i wish dig had.....
- DisposableRob, on 01/16/2008, -0/+1Btw, the Listen app is no longer supported. Check Erica Sadun's blog.
- madwh, on 01/16/2008, -2/+1the future iPhone http://digg.com/apple/iPhone_Air
- erzz, on 01/16/2008, -11/+4Dugg just to try and display what rampant fanboism can do to a person's logic.
It will be months and years before SDK apps catch up to what has already been achieved on the jailbroken phones.
One tiny example:
I SSH into my web server clusters and manage them from either the command line, or through a desktop over VNC. Try that with your web based SDK!
Get out of apples arse and enjoy the freedom :)- domness, on 01/16/2008, -2/+6The SDK isn't web based..
- LaSepultura, on 01/16/2008, -1/+5You fail. SDKs run natively on the phone and I guarantee you there will be a SSH application within 2 to 3 months of the SDK release. Probably even sooner.
- shucklak, on 01/16/2008, -1/+1"You fail. SDKs run natively on the phone and I guarantee you there will be a SSH application within 2 to 3 months of the SDK release. Probably even sooner."
I'd give it something like 15 days. I'd be pretty surprised if it took a month to get an SSH client out - Firehed, on 01/16/2008, -0/+32 to 3 MONTHS? We had a full BSD system within about two DAYS of the first jailbreaking.
And I don't really care what the SDK does. My jailbroken phone does it now. If all of the apps I use can be ported over without changes (or without making sacrifices anyways), then I'll update. While I like the direction this is headed, it all remains to be seen. - LaSepultura, on 01/16/2008, -1/+1Right, I said 2 to 3 months for arguments sake because he went crazy and said years. Realistically I agree probably 2 to 3 weeks instead of months.
- erzz, on 01/18/2008, -0/+1orrrrrrrr
did i really say "It will be months and years" Months for some things, years for others. Month or two for the SSH/VNC functionality maybe, years if ever for an SDK based NES emulator for instance.
You fail. At reading, return to school, do not pass go, etc etc
- erzz, on 01/18/2008, -0/+1orrrrrrrr
- shucklak, on 01/16/2008, -1/+1"You fail. SDKs run natively on the phone and I guarantee you there will be a SSH application within 2 to 3 months of the SDK release. Probably even sooner."
- domness, on 01/16/2008, -3/+20This article is stupid!
They don't know anything about the jailbroken phones and the update.
- 1.1.2 Jailbroken updated to 1.1.3 does not brick the iPhone.
- Biased approach!
- Installer.app has been around for a long time! and programs are still being added to the LONG list! ... the SDK will allow cool apps.. yeh! but... how long will it take for the list to get as long as the current jailbroken list?
Think Popular Mechanics, Think.- EntropyFan, on 01/16/2008, -2/+1Will the 1.1.4 update brick your iPhone? How about the 1.2?
Apple has shown they are willing to screw over the users that don't play it Apple's way.Your ability to use your equipment your way lives or dies on the assumption they won't do it again.- johnpaul191, on 01/16/2008, -3/+1I don't think it has as much to do with Apple trying to ***** you as it does with the iPhone really only existing for 7 months and they have a lot of real-world issues to knock out. Obviously things like copy+paste are no brainers. The fact that Apple did not include it implies there was some bug they could not nail down in time. That's not the kind of thing they kept out to lock down the phone or somehow profit from.
- EntropyFan, on 01/16/2008, -2/+1Will the 1.1.4 update brick your iPhone? How about the 1.2?
- j4nj1m3n3z, on 01/16/2008, -5/+16The SDK still wont let you be able to unlock the phone, so no point.
- johnpaul191, on 01/16/2008, -0/+1depends on why you are unlocking it. if you want somebody besides AT&T, then yeah.... if you just want some bonus apps, then who cares?
- zongamin, on 01/17/2008, -1/+1Do you understand what SDK means you idiot? It has NOTHING to do with being locked to a network. You're a cretin.
software development kit (SDK or "devkit") is typically a set of development tools that allows a software engineer to create applications for a certain software package, software framework, hardware platform, computer system, video game console, operating system, or similar platform.
- LaSepultura, on 01/16/2008, -6/+23The problem with JailBroken phones is that you are always going against the Hardware. It's a constant uphill battle. A good example is the PSP. SNES emulation is STILL not smooth because they have to figure out how to make the software run best on the hardware without completely knowing the hardware.
You do the SDK and do it Apple's way, I guarantee the applications will be more powerful and higher quality than the JailBroken ones.- poonaka, on 01/16/2008, -0/+4You could make the argument that the developers making the JailBroken apps are more skilled as they have to figure that ***** out on their own. Compare that to the wanna be programmers who are going to flood the market with their ***** SDK apps.
- n88n, on 01/16/2008, -0/+2Also you will never see any emulator on Apples list of SDK programs.
- alexkehr, on 01/16/2008, -9/+8I'm excited for the SDK b/c when I had my phone jailbroken it constantly crashed. NO GOOD.
- Ocelot13, on 01/16/2008, -3/+10then i guess you didnt do it correctly then
- starf, on 01/16/2008, -1/+2No, it's a somewhat common problem that occurs on iphones, sometimes without being jailbroken. You need to restore and jailbreak again, and it should be fine.
- Firehed, on 01/16/2008, -0/+5That was because of a ***** summerboard release. When the latest version was released, my constant crashing stopped immediately.
- likwidfuzion, on 01/16/2008, -0/+2Turning off Dim Wallpaper in SummerBoard preferences seems to fix it for people.
- roosterjm2k2, on 01/16/2008, -0/+1Which is why an SDK with a review process is a great Idea...
- erzz, on 01/18/2008, -0/+1Yeah because the apple applications written for the iphone have been totally bug free......waaaaiiiit a minute!
- Ocelot13, on 01/16/2008, -3/+10then i guess you didnt do it correctly then
- ggnictee, on 01/16/2008, -5/+10I agree that a native application would be better (generally) then the underground version, the problem we seem to keep running into (for some strange reason) is people want to be able to do anything they want with thier iPhone. They want to be able to throw out the sleek well designed interface and replace it with a myspace "glitter text" interface. Yes it would be tragic and I personally gag at least twice a day due to poor design choices but ...so what?
I love my iPhone. And (being the huge consumer whore I am) would pay for apps if they would release them (I really want a copy of Word and for the keyboard to turn sideways in all apps not just safari (the bigger keyboard is just better)) but until Apple will let me do any stupid horrible thing I want with my phone I'm afraid I'll have to keep opening iFuntastic (note to apple: buy iFuntastic and bundle it with new iPhones)
People would rather paint their house pink and lime green then have a house they can't paint. It's the first rule of property law. (actually it's the second. the first is usually said to be the right to exclude, but you get my point.) - sparced, on 01/16/2008, -0/+7The most important factor is not having a 18 month contract. No additional "official" features are likely to be worth a large monthly bill.
- xsecretfiles, on 01/17/2008, -0/+118?? it's 24, get your facts straight
- MavRevMatt, on 01/16/2008, -3/+6PM is being paid to say this ya' think?
- pauldy, on 01/16/2008, -1/+8The article is inaccurate flame bait and should be marked as such. The claim that updates have bricked iphones is false the device is engineered to be much more resilient than that. Does a jail broken iPhone still rock, why yes it does because without it you still can't install third party apps.
- beatoven, on 01/16/2008, -6/+2Hey did any of you realise that Apple just stole ideas from the hackers? I'm sure the multiple home screen idea came from springboard.app and the rearraging of icons was also inspired from the hacks. Apple would never have included those in the update if it hadn't been for them. If Apple sells apps through iTunes and still doesn't open up to free iphone software, I'll always need jailbreak. Besides, i can't even buy from iTunes store from Mauritius!
I hate Apple but I love their products and independent devs/hackers.- shank2001, on 01/16/2008, -2/+2I am not going back to a non jailbroken device, but in reality the multiple home screens with dots below is by Apple, and the hackers just used it. I think eventually Apple will finally open up the phone completely... I am just not sure they will do it before their exclusive contract with ATT runs out. :(
- shank2001, on 01/16/2008, -2/+2I am not going back to a non jailbroken device, but in reality the multiple home screens with dots below is by Apple, and the hackers just used it. I think eventually Apple will finally open up the phone completely... I am just not sure they will do it before their exclusive contract with ATT runs out. :(
- udamdirtyape, on 01/16/2008, -8/+3Popular Mechanics/Science are both corporate-shill rags... Apple probably paid for the story... I wonder who paid them for their B.S. 911 debunking...
- alex7575, on 01/16/2008, -0/+9Jailbroken iPhone:
Good for consumer & free
Bad for Apple, potentially bad for ATT
SDK iPhone
Good for consumer & $$$
Good for Apple ($$$), potentially good for ATT (if the SDK blocks all VoIP apps)
... I just realized this, this is from PopularMechanics.com??? Diggers... C'MON!!! - Justice101, on 01/16/2008, -5/+2They have to wrong argument. I don't want to jailbreak it, but AT&T doesn't have service in my county, so I have to unlock it to work with T-Mobile. Really Apple this is 2008 open source is king, get your ***** together.
- Ninnux, on 01/16/2008, -4/+3SDK native = supported functionality and software. That's why I'll pay for it.
- likwidfuzion, on 01/16/2008, -1/+2I'm guessing you don't support open source software.
- h3ndrix, on 01/16/2008, -3/+3I get the feeling that most of the responses from users are primarily PC users who really liked the idea of the iPhone (like myself).
What is new about Apple controlling 3rd party development for their proprietary hardware? - FoxMcCloud1, on 01/16/2008, -1/+9Shame on Popular Mechanics, they are total morons. Talking about trolling the internet for NES roms to play on the iPhone. They must be some idiotic crusty ass old fartknockers who dont even really know about Jailbreaking or the 3rd party iphone dev community.
The reasons why a jailbroken phone is BETTER than the 1.1.3 update:
Solitaire game, RealArtist (photo manipulation toy), VoiceNotes, themes, flashlight, unit converter, Apollo (IM Client), Collequy (IRC Client), Books (ebook reader), Sand game, dictionaries, blackjack, minesweeper, yatsee, dominos, chess, and other fun games and useful utilities.
Seriously dudes do a little more research before writing an article. dum dum dum. what does 1.1.3 give you, wow a pin drop on a map, webclips, some other junk. Nothing very cool really.- Archer007, on 01/16/2008, -0/+1ROFL Sand.
- zetsurin, on 01/16/2008, -0/+2fartknockers? Love it. Dugg.
- h3ndrix, on 01/16/2008, -4/+3I guess if Microsoft had released the 360 and people broke into it and made their own games before Microsoft licensed games came out, we'd see the same complaints?
- n88n, on 01/16/2008, -0/+2Your sort of missing the point. This would be more like them selling a 360 with all the potential to run the coolest games but then not releasing any.
And by the way my xbox1 was modded to bits, but it was only to make it better. I still bought the system and bought the games... win win.- wiihuck, on 01/16/2008, -0/+2not releasing any........fast enough.
- n88n, on 01/16/2008, -0/+2Your sort of missing the point. This would be more like them selling a 360 with all the potential to run the coolest games but then not releasing any.
- airj1012, on 01/16/2008, -0/+3What happened to the 3G version? Since my contract just ran out I wanted to get an updated phone. Unfortunately they don't make it yet. I'm disappointed this wasn't in an update yesterday.
- Tanbo, on 01/16/2008, -2/+3I have never jailbroken my phone, only because, to be honest, I don't find many of the apps out there interesting enough to actually do it.
I do have to admit that the 1.1.3 update is fantastic. The phone seems to work faster and it stays much better connected to a WiFi signal (personally I kept losing the connection, and I would have to go back into Settings and find it again - have never had to this with the update though).
More than apps that are largely useless, I'd prefer they keep working on making the phone easier to use.- likwidfuzion, on 01/16/2008, -0/+2If you think the 1.1.3 update is fantastic, then you haven't been researching about the 3rd party community enough.Everything in the 1.1.3 update, you can already do with a jailbroken iPhone and more. I'm actually beginning to think Apple is stealing ideas from the 3rd party developers.
- MookiBlaylock, on 01/16/2008, -1/+1Dugg but doesn't really give GREAT reasons to not jailbreak your iPhone.
- jordanrobbins, on 01/16/2008, -0/+1"we can enjoy a few more precious months before obsolescence comes riding in, not on a pale horse, but certainly in a black turtleteck."
- daschupa, on 01/16/2008, -0/+1Whoever brings out a flash plugin will be the one I choose to use. But by that time, 1.1.3 will have been jailbroken and the choice will be obsolete. Jailbreak is amazing and apple is making this choice easier by charging for updates that should have been made from the start.
- Mikey9oo, on 01/16/2008, -0/+2Check out itransmogrify. Flash is here already.
- likwidfuzion, on 01/16/2008, -0/+1Not exactly. It's more of a flash media player if anything.
- Mikey9oo, on 01/16/2008, -0/+2Check out itransmogrify. Flash is here already.
- Ireland, on 01/16/2008, -0/+1Before I start reading the story. I wouldn't be using this iPhone if it wasn't jail-broken, so this story just has to be flawed from my view.
- Bing11, on 01/16/2008, -1/+1I agree with pretty much all of the above statements (SDK apps cost money, and Jailbreak has more features so far), but I wanted to add something else to the mix:
Why the hell did Popular Mechanices center-align their entire article?! They get an F in Web Design 101 - digitallysick, on 01/16/2008, -3/+4What steve really said about the iphone " we stole the jailbroke features like summerboard , so we can apple brand it and sell it to you"
- Mikey9oo, on 01/16/2008, -0/+4When the SDK comes out, I will update. For now, my jailbroken phone is still better. There is the answer. Also, this article is a bit misleading. The iphones that bricked were the ones unlocked for carriers other than ATT, not simply ones with kick ass apps.
- likwidfuzion, on 01/16/2008, -0/+3Buried as inaccurate. The writer needs to do his research and update his knowledge about jailbroken iPhones cause it is simply misleading and untrue for the most part.
- zetsurin, on 01/16/2008, -0/+3I sure as hell bet that a Divx Codec pack will be arriving for my jailbroken iPhone well before an official one will ever arrive for the iPhone. And I have an SDK, plus I happen to be a developer. I can write my own apps that can do pretty much anything I desire. I don't need an 18 month contract and ass reaming from O2 (UK) in order to get this. And my coworker who is bending over for Apple/O2 JUST yesterday caught up to a small portion of what I already had been doing on my iPhone for over a month now.
- MinorLemming, on 01/16/2008, -0/+2There is one really simple reason that the Jailbroken phone is better...
I can CHOOSE whose software to install on my phone - I'm not limited to software that apple has blessed and digitally signed.
I'll Donate 50 quid to the RSPCA if the SDK actually allows people to make apps available for the iPhone so that I can just download and install, without it having to go through some kind of Apple 'blessing' process.- beerbarron, on 01/16/2008, -1/+1Why does it matter what route you take to get to point A , that being apps on your iPhone. No one is forcing people to buy the premium apps, and like most great software, there will be open source!
- MinorLemming, on 01/17/2008, -1/+0I'm not so sure about that... For there to be a good variety of open source apps, I have to have a way to install them on my phone.
I don't want to be limited to only apps that Apple deems suitable, like they do with the iPod stuff. I want to be able to run any App that someone sat down and wrote, just like I can on my symbian phones.
So I'll stick with the Jailbroken phone because on that, I get apps on my phone, and I get to choose who's apps to try, I'm not forced to wait for Apple to give them their blessing.
- MinorLemming, on 01/17/2008, -1/+0I'm not so sure about that... For there to be a good variety of open source apps, I have to have a way to install them on my phone.
- beerbarron, on 01/16/2008, -1/+1Why does it matter what route you take to get to point A , that being apps on your iPhone. No one is forcing people to buy the premium apps, and like most great software, there will be open source!
- igtats, on 01/16/2008, -1/+1Can a jailbreak phone or sdk phone have the ability to run a FLASH login screen???
- vicx, on 01/17/2008, -0/+0The title - 'Why being on a leash is better than being free' tells you something about the person who wrote the article.
- xsecretfiles, on 01/17/2008, -0/+1Truth be told. I haven't jailbroken my phone due to paranoia, and this article is not helping :(
- squirnkey, on 01/18/2008, -0/+0I got my iphone for christmas and I can barely follow this. Wtf is this jailbreak, how do i get it, and why does it make me cooler? And why should I not wait for this SDK?
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