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American Apparel Sued For Rocking with Their Socks Out

laist.com — Dov Charney is an ass: a civil trial begins in Los Angeles tomorrow between former employee Mary Nelson, an American Apparel sales manager, and the clothing company founder. The specific claim? Charney had a meeting with her wearing only a sock over his crotch, and fired her when she said she would be talking to a lawyer.

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  • MrDNA, on 01/08/2008, -7/+108It is sad when you have to decide between supporting sweatshop labor or supporting this *****.
    • revka, on 01/08/2008, -6/+5http://www.kqed.org/arts/truly/episode.jsp?eid=130
      Documentary profiling him and his stance "against" sweatshops. tldr; don't support him either.
    • buckrogers1965, on 01/08/2008, -3/+6How about supporting neither?
    • DemsFTW, on 01/08/2008, -19/+7There's nothing American about his crap. A bunch of tight pants, ***** rocker, fag-wear. Seems more Euro to me.
      • chaosium, on 01/08/2008, -10/+20Enjoy your Wal-Mart formless obesewear.
        • Chompy, on 01/08/2008, -5/+15Enjoy your empty wallet and shallow concern about clothing.
          • demesisx, on 01/08/2008, -4/+2SUPER KUDOS. Bang-a-rang, Peter!
          • mywhitenoise, on 01/08/2008, -3/+1$10 - $20 a shirt isn't breaking the bank. Enjoy your ***** minimum wage paying job.
          • Chompy, on 01/08/2008, -0/+1@mywhitenoise:
            $10-$20 are the cheapo prices, the clothes I normally buy for everyday use. If you think those are high fashion prices then you simply have no idea what you're talking about.
      • wingo123, on 01/08/2008, -2/+3They do make a damn comfortable t-shirt though. Not that I can afford to pay for more than one.
    • mdcarso, on 01/08/2008, -13/+6What are you talking about?
      "Dov Charney walks around his office in his underwear, sleeps with employees, and calls women bitches, sluts, whores and the c-word - and that's the stuff he admits to."
      This guy ROCKS!
    • seantubridy, on 01/08/2008, -0/+0My thoughts exactly. If you're someone who prints T-shirrs and buys wholesale, AA has been the preferred choice for a while. But Alternative Apparel also has the no sweatshop thing going on and some nice, soft shirts. No, I don't work for them.
  • soot, on 01/08/2008, -12/+58What a total ***** this guy must be.
    • rnreekez, on 01/08/2008, -3/+16I doubt it, unless he used tape to keep the sock up.
    • akapsycho, on 01/08/2008, -5/+4Iron my shirt!
    • minorthreat, on 01/08/2008, -7/+6making up your mind already? How do you know this not just a pissed off feminist that is blowing something out of proportion and is upset that he is a playa and he fired her?

      Im not saying this dude is completely innocent, but just because someone brings a law suit against you, does not mean you are guilty of the crime.
      • wingo123, on 01/08/2008, -1/+3I think you missed the joke.

        But by all accounts, yeah, this guy is a douche.
    • ffeineandsugar, on 01/09/2008, -0/+1Normally, I find this language objectionable. Here, I find it actually more civil than Mr. Charney....
  • vapb400, on 01/08/2008, -48/+23Dov Charney is my hero.
    • tman84, on 01/08/2008, -19/+10mine too. its refreshing to see a private business owner exercising his rights as a private business owner
      • chaosium, on 01/08/2008, -13/+5This is what Libertarians woudl all be like if they were successes in life and not WoW-playing law-school dropouts.
        • LMaxey, on 01/08/2008, -6/+5Dumbest comment ever. And no, I'm not new here.
          • Chompy, on 01/08/2008, -3/+5Well if you're not new here, then you must have goldfish memory or something.
      • gwolf001, on 01/08/2008, -6/+9Just because you own a business doesn't make you the monarch or give you your own 'kingdom'. You still have to abide by the nation's rules, behave ethically and have a basic sense of morals.
        This goes for the couple who enslaved their housekeeper: http://www.digg.com/world_news/Jury_Millionaire_co ...
        as well as the business owners who ejected patrons for their clothes:
        http://digg.com/people/Family_Of_6_Arrested_Over_D ...
        • tman84, on 01/08/2008, -4/+6Slavery is a crime, dress code conduct is not a crime. These 2 are completely separate issues. What is legal and what is "offensive" are 2 completely separate things, The law rightfully does not grant protection from being offended, although the "progressives" in this country would like everything monitored all the time
          • MacEnvy, on 01/08/2008, -2/+2Yeah ... it's that damn progressive Bush Administration using warrantless wiretaps! Damn progressives!
        • ryansmith18, on 01/08/2008, -2/+1"Just because you own a business doesn't make you the monarch or give you your own 'kingdom'."

          ...the hell it doesn't. I kinda feel like starting my own business now..
    • leerayIG88, on 01/08/2008, -5/+2nooooooooo
    • loganhuddleston, on 01/08/2008, -0/+1yeah im not gonna lie, i own about 40 american apparel t shirts. they're the best.
  • designer, on 01/08/2008, -38/+20And the problem is?
    • ajb2015, on 01/08/2008, -6/+21i think its called...uh, um...what is that term....hmm, OH! SEXUAL HARASSMENT!
      • Stupidumb, on 01/08/2008, -2/+1Really? Did he threaten her her job unless she partied with him? If he was good looking, she would have rode him hard and with commitment. Instead, looking like a drunk, homeless man, he was sued by this stuck up slut because she heard a "cha ching". But what do I know, I'm Stupidumb !!@!@!@! DURRRR
    • pt4117, on 01/08/2008, -3/+5Do you think there would be a problem if this guy did this stuff to your girlfriend?
    • UtilityPole, on 01/08/2008, -2/+0Oh you're SO edgy!

      Since there's nothing wrong with it, go ahead and do it wherever you work. Report back with the results!
  • Icecream, on 01/08/2008, -4/+26Dugg for the Title.
  • Jenadae, on 01/08/2008, -14/+8Don't worry she was just getting a recipe from the lawyer, she makes a mean hamburger.
  • TheKingInYellow, on 01/08/2008, -16/+6what exactly was she expecting? that man is weird.
  • pianomahnn, on 01/08/2008, -58/+18Well, *****. The whiney whore needs to get the sand out of her vag. Don't like it, quit. Why should he have to change because the ***** can't deal with ***** socks?
    • onlyclave, on 01/08/2008, -10/+43Because there are federal laws specifically against this kind of behavior. Don't like it? Move to Canada.

      This woman has a rock solid case with tons of legal precedent. I would say she has won the lottery here.
      • jmpeagle, on 01/08/2008, -13/+6don't like the anti-privacy/anti-Drug/anti-piracy laws than move to Canada. See how that sentence can be used for anyone who happens to disagree with something?
        • Matteos, on 01/08/2008, -1/+7What if i disagree with moving to Canada?
        • MikeDawg, on 01/08/2008, -0/+6Don't like Canadian, then move to Canada. . . . Umm. . . Ohh. . . Wait a second.
        • mightydavefish, on 01/08/2008, -0/+1Yes.
          See how you get buried with that moronic rightard stupidity?
          So what do we have to say to get the right wing asshats to move to Canada? That we are returning to a rule of law?
      • BoneheadFarker, on 01/08/2008, -0/+21We can do those things in Canada??? COOL! I'm running out to buy socks right now!
    • faskippy, on 01/08/2008, -2/+1Barf.
    • pianomahnn, on 01/08/2008, -1/+1Sarcasm, people. :o
    • Stupidumb, on 01/08/2008, -3/+1One of the few people who aren't self-righteous, go-getting, douche-bag activists. Of course others dugg you down...
  • Fullvinyl, on 01/08/2008, -9/+29Maybe he just really likes Anthony Kiedis.
  • thenewnoise, on 01/08/2008, -20/+6the title is a pretty big fail it should be "rock out with sock out"
    • MrDNA, on 01/08/2008, -10/+3hi matt. thousands of miles and various dead boards between us, and we still manage to post on the same random threads.
      • s1mph0ny, on 01/08/2008, -2/+4Oh, and you both get buried into oblivion, how cute.
  • Fullvinyl, on 01/08/2008, -16/+2Maybe he just really likes Anthony Kiedis.
  • derder89, on 01/08/2008, -7/+64There is no evidence to say that you can't walk around in your underwear all day anywhere in the United States of America,"

    Feel the wind of freedom blow across your nether-regions
  • rickyisawesome, on 01/08/2008, -17/+9maybe if AA clothes didnt make you look like such a whore Dov Charney wouldnt have been so tempted.
    • chaosium, on 01/08/2008, -3/+6"maybe if AA clothes didnt make you look like such a whore "

      You will never touch a woman, neckbeard.
  • jayfarer, on 01/08/2008, -8/+39For those that don't know, the owner of American Apparel is this really, sleezy guy. Why do you think all of their ads border on pornographic?
    • jmpeagle, on 01/08/2008, -5/+37how is this even close to pornographic? http://www.cherryflava.com/photos/uncategorized/am ...

      The only thing I noticed were some amazing socks.
      • cawpin, on 01/08/2008, -1/+3Note: Do not search for Lauren Phoenix (the model's name) on Google images at work with safe search off.
        • Antixian, on 01/08/2008, -0/+8unless you work from home and set the rules yourself! then, by all means, you MUST search.
        • CedEx, on 01/08/2008, -0/+5That sounds suspiciously like a challenge to me.
        • mywhitenoise, on 01/08/2008, -1/+1I love Lauren Phoenix.
        • Cerebral, on 01/08/2008, -0/+3Don't you mean "Do not search anything on Google Image Search with safe search turned off"?
      • mightydavefish, on 01/08/2008, -0/+1That is the best thing you ever posted.
        KUDOS!
    • petoria, on 01/08/2008, -2/+14To sell clothes?
    • briguymaine, on 01/08/2008, -1/+13dear lord, I think I need a sock right now.
    • winmywii, on 01/08/2008, -0/+8Thanks for clearing that up, but seriously, what is American Apparel?
    • smb3d, on 01/08/2008, -2/+1Those ads are border on just plain awesome.
  • BeforeSputnik, on 01/08/2008, -4/+45 "There is no evidence to say that you can't walk around in your underwear all day anywhere in the United States of America,"
    While i like that theory, i'm pretty sure if i do that at my job, i get fired.
    • TheUngod, on 01/08/2008, -6/+3If you're the President, who's going to fire you?
      • rmxz, on 01/08/2008, -0/+1Fire a president, that's easy. Either a CEO or the board can usually do that.

        "The CEO is just hired hand" - JP Morgan.
        • tendonut, on 01/08/2008, -0/+2Heh, hired hand. I bet her name is Jill.
    • monkeyrun, on 01/08/2008, -1/+10And in the Playboy mansion, you'll probably get fired for NOT doing so.

      There is no law one way or the other.
    • CrackyJSquirrel, on 01/08/2008, -4/+1Depends, are they whitey tighties? Or boxers? And do the whitey tighties have a landing strip on them?
    • MikeDawg, on 01/08/2008, -0/+4Are you the boss/owner?
  • uriman, on 01/08/2008, -3/+19...and the name for the new sock line for spring 08 is cool breeze. Let me illustrate.
  • manfromfuture, on 01/08/2008, -4/+18"If hanging brain is crime, lock me up."
    --Creed Bratton
  • tman84, on 01/08/2008, -14/+18gotta love subjective titles. i hope that whoever posted this is not a journalist, and i hope the blogger doesn't consider himself one either. Dov Charney is an ass?? That's why people read a story, to gather the facts and decide things for themselves. I hate when pretentious jerkoffs try to tell me what to think of someone. Don't insult the readers intelligence, even if it is on Digg.
    • faskippy, on 01/08/2008, -2/+10Must be waking up from your buzz...you finally started using capital letters. :)
      • tman84, on 01/08/2008, -4/+2LOL, the program I use at work makes every letter capital regardless of what I do, so I gave up bothering with upper and lower case a long time ago. I'll try harder though.
    • FredFredrickson, on 01/08/2008, -2/+2I like how you call the title subjective, and then go on to talk about how subjective the description is.
  • DeFex, on 01/08/2008, -5/+13well what do you expect. look at their horrible ads.
    • cisox, on 01/08/2008, -1/+1I disagree. I have seen some nice sweater puppies in those ads.
  • wingo123, on 01/08/2008, -3/+37FTFA: "The only time he was in his undergarments was for strictly professional reasons..."

    Why is it that this excuse never works for me, and I keep getting fired?

    Seriously - the lawyers stopped just short of making the defense: "Hey, the guy's a weirdo - cut him some slack." I mean, I'm all for having a progressive workplace, but flashing your wang to your female employees is PROBABLY not going to fly in most instances, unless you work in porn or something. There are laws about that *****.

    The guy's gotta be richer than sin, though, so he can probably afford lawyers that can wrangle him out of any mess he creates. Those freaking stores are on every street corner in LA.
  • MrCali626, on 01/08/2008, -3/+58This will make sexual harrassment Panda very sad =(
    • blackmage439, on 01/08/2008, -1/+2I have that song stuck in my head now... dammit.
  • iggadore, on 01/08/2008, -1/+29so is American Apparel planning on selling said ***** Sock?
    cause I'm interested
  • sysoprock, on 01/08/2008, -2/+43I feel a great disturbance in the force, as if millions of hipsters cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.
  • floatingpoints, on 01/08/2008, -19/+10What a prude. I'd fire her too.
  • lnxfi, on 01/08/2008, -2/+15"American Apparel Dress Code: Socks."
  • omgTHEPATRIOTS, on 01/08/2008, -6/+10..aaaand this is why I refuse to use American Apparel for my business. What a cockass.
    • chaosium, on 01/08/2008, -3/+5Dugg, but it's a shame because the quality of materials is really top-notch. Are there any decent alternatives?
      • vocalyouth, on 01/08/2008, -0/+1Alternative Apparel. also Gildan t-s aren't as nice but they have a pretty good labor track record. There are also a new line of Hanes tees that are very soft, stlyish, have easy-remove tags and are made in Mexico. a lot of customers who used AA have switched to these, they are a lot cheaper and of a similar quality. not sure what the track record is like sweatshop wise, but I'm assuming since it's mexico it's not too hideous.
        • johnpaul191, on 01/09/2008, -0/+1It's better than a 3rd world country, but Mexico is not downtown Los Angeles. Cost of labor is a fraction of the USA, and the workers are not nearly as protected as they are here.
          On a personal side, AA stuff fits me better than any other brand. They seem to be the only company that makes stuff long enough for me. being 6'6" and wearing medium shirts means that most every other brand is too short. in the sleeves or body.
          I have heard the owner is a jerk, but i guess the unfortunate reality is the lesser of evils? is his jerkatude better than his equivalent at a 3rd world sweatshop? do those sweatshop workers have the ability to sue, or could they realistically quit the ***** job and hope to find something better? could they go complain to a newspaper or blog about it? i'm not justifying his actions, but the textile world has gone to ***** in the last 50 years. i know because my father was involved in it (he designed and built textile machines) from pre-WW2 till about 10 years ago when he died. he watched the jobs slowly move to Puerto Rico, then on the other side of the globe. he was in the business when there were whole towns built around thriving textile mills. some of them today look like the old steel mill towns, but with cooler buildings. totally depressing.
    • pattink, on 01/08/2008, -2/+0cockass or sockass..or even cocksock...1 fish 2 fish...
    • rootneg2, on 01/09/2008, -0/+1cockfoot?
  • Flapcats2091, on 01/08/2008, -8/+3How big was the sock?
  • GoddessofNerds, on 01/08/2008, -2/+57I'd love to work there, if that's the attire for a business meeting, imagine what you could wear on casual Friday.
    • floatingpoints, on 01/08/2008, -1/+9Yeah, but then you'd have to deal with uptight prudes trying to sue you.
    • FlyCO, on 01/08/2008, -0/+15That's the kind of company which would implement Casual Sex Friday
    • amgamer23, on 01/08/2008, -0/+1"And remember, Friday is Hawaiian shirt day."
    • squegie, on 01/08/2008, -1/+2Hawaiians don't wear shirts... oh. I see what you did there.

      (Yes, I got the Office Space reference)
  • Shiftgood, on 01/08/2008, -18/+9AA is an awesome company. The guy is a freak but so what? dont like it... dont buy it. They are just living free and doing good in the process.

    dont be such a square/ bra burner.
    • Vindexus, on 01/08/2008, -0/+7Who the hell says "square"?
      • MaynardJK, on 01/08/2008, -0/+5Sorry, my grandma got out of her cage and started posting on Digg. It won't happen again.
  • andregriffin, on 01/08/2008, -7/+8Ugh, and I really like their regular shirts (especially those that ISO50 prints on) and hoodies. Though nearly every other item is ridiculous and fugly...
  • JasonCox, on 01/08/2008, -13/+9He covered up all that's required by law, I dont see the problem here. Granted it's gross, but its not worth the waste of my tax dollars.
    • takamalak, on 01/08/2008, -2/+9Of course you would say that, Jason *Cox*. This sort of behavior is right up your alley.
    • eean, on 01/08/2008, -0/+3It's civil court, someone will probably end up paying court costs.
  • CaptainKrontos, on 01/08/2008, -2/+15Charney's been going to his meetings stark naked for a while now. I, for one, am impressed that he showed enough class to don a sock this time around.
  • nihilite, on 01/08/2008, -3/+11Is there some kind of AA bad publicity campaign going on? I had never even heard of these guys until a couple days ago when there was some crap on here about a woman dressing up like a slut in AA clothing.
    http://digg.com/arts_culture/American_Apparel_Will ...

    not that i really care, but it seems odd.
  • FlyCO, on 01/08/2008, -1/+9"Charney had a meeting with her wearing only a ***** sock"

    "Charney said that he couldn't remember the incident but that it was possible he was trying to show them new merchandise."

    I hope they release small sizes... You know, cold-shrink and all
  • TheKidd, on 01/08/2008, -3/+16he LOOKS like a perv: http://www.thepiton.com/images/picture_10_1.png
    • TheUngod, on 01/08/2008, -1/+10He looks a little like Borat...
    • CrackyJSquirrel, on 01/08/2008, -1/+11Dude that guy looks like a total pron star..
      • Ndiggnation, on 01/08/2008, -0/+2That's the first thing I thought, and wondered if he's one of Ron Jeremy's illegitimate sons..
    • 1773nium, on 01/08/2008, -0/+6Dad?!
    • mancat, on 01/08/2008, -0/+4Earl!!
    • loganhuddleston, on 01/08/2008, -0/+1he looks like pablo escobar.
  • faskippy, on 01/08/2008, -3/+16"We are glad this frivolous case will be soon behind us."

    ROFLMAO! Behind you allright, right up your ass!
  • gambyt13, on 01/08/2008, -1/+3Sounds like he really put his sock in his mouth. The real question is, was it an ankle sock, tube sock or over the knee?
  • Blacksail, on 01/08/2008, -11/+8I work at American Apparel - Apparently Dov does funny crap like this all the time.

    Regardless of the weird stuff he does, you can not deny his business savvy. American Apparel is blowing up.
  • colberrep, on 01/08/2008, -4/+9it is well known he bangs all the models there. lucky bloke.
    • victrola, on 01/08/2008, -1/+2Are you an american apparrel spammer?

      Anyway, models sleeping with rich guys isn't news. It is well-known models bamg all the rich guys they want.
  • ninsei, on 01/08/2008, -4/+11Everyday I feel more justified in never shopping there. Their amateur porn poster ads have always been a bit creepy http://americanapparel.net/gallery/photocollection ...
    • DarkSamus, on 01/08/2008, -1/+1there was a big ass poster of a hot chick on houston street, the photo never looked normal
    • Blacksail, on 01/08/2008, -4/+2Although I'm sure you'd have no problem buying Tom Fords new Cologne...

      Terry Richardson makes Dov Charney and AA's ad campaigns look like Bible Camp recruitment posters.
    • signal15, on 01/08/2008, -3/+4Really? I happen to like their ads.
  • leerayIG88, on 01/08/2008, -7/+3Whooo! Rock and Sock United, WWF Lives!
  • Etchii, on 01/08/2008, -16/+10***** puritan. Its how they do things...having fun at trade shows, don't like it? find a new job.

  • ilves7, on 01/08/2008, -3/+9well, you can't say he doesn't have balls.
    • FredFredrickson, on 01/08/2008, -0/+1The article didn't mention them...
  • GoingToShibuya, on 01/08/2008, -4/+12A few weeks ago I went to the American Apparel factory for the sale. Dov was walking around and talking to the various people in line. While I didn't get to talk to him much, only a few words, he seemed like a pretty nice guy. But yeah, I am sure he's a *****, much like Steve Jobs... that's CEOs for you.
    • victrola, on 01/08/2008, -0/+2Public relations events usually require CEO's to be on their best behavior.
  • FreeBadAdvice, on 01/08/2008, -4/+15FTA: In a deposition, Charney "absolutely" admits to calling women "sluts" and the female genitalia c-word..."

    Let me get this straight: this site will say ***** socks, sluts, bitches, whores, but when it comes time to say ***** they lose their balls? It's not even a graceful censoring of the word! Could "the female genitalia c-word" sound any more childish? The least I am willing to accept is "That one word women act like they're offended by, because they're told to hate it by other women, but they're fine hearing pussy, snatch, and ***** is what Charney conjectured women to be."
  • adamroach, on 01/08/2008, -0/+6Let's just say the meeting didn't go as planned.
  • yaryarhumphump, on 01/08/2008, -1/+7Business meeting.... at his house...... with a boss that freely admits to sexual relations with his staff, and uses many "enduring terms"


    yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa right something doesn't sound right here, I'm sure she had all the reason to think it was purely professional.
    • victrola, on 01/08/2008, -1/+1So, you're blaming the victim? Maybe she needed the JOB. If she wanted to be treated like a protitute, she could make a lot more money.
  • ajb2015, on 01/08/2008, -0/+12http://www.flickr.com/photos/jaimew/14833837/

    look at the guy
  • martinherrera, on 01/08/2008, -10/+2Sir Mix-A-Lot should do a remake of his song and call it
    "I like Big SLUTS and I can not Lie"
  • Orangey, on 01/08/2008, -0/+1This sucks, their shirts and hoodies are the best fit I've ever found. Don't know whether to carry on buying their stuff now or not...
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