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CEO murdered by mob of sacked Indian workers
timesonline.co.uk — Corporate India is in shock after a mob of sacked workers bludgeoned to death the chief executive who had dismissed them from a factory in a suburb of Delhi.
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- USNavyBlue, on 09/23/2008, -20/+166This is actually what the American people should do to the International Bankers, aka the FED, the Corporate CEOs and the Congress Members who have participated in fleecing the American people.
- MarkEarhart, on 09/23/2008, -6/+16YES!!! Thank You!
- ChronicColonic, on 09/24/2008, -8/+23There is a better no-violent way to resolve this...extremely long prison sentences come to mind...
- YodaJones, on 09/24/2008, -8/+21***** your prison sentence. I want to see a good beat down on those bastards.
- humanerror, on 09/24/2008, -3/+23Prisons are only for the poor. Did you really never stop to notice this fact?
- nick1971, on 09/24/2008, -1/+7Since when did the US shy from Capital punishment?
- ripple123, on 09/24/2008, -3/+4***** non-violence. line em up and blow their greedy corrupt ***** skulls out. turns out, theres some things more valuable than money...
- simg, on 09/24/2008, -2/+7how is putting someone in prison (ie forcible confinement) not an act of violence ?
- PeppermintPig, on 09/24/2008, -0/+4It's a complex issue simg. Welcome to discuss it, though.
My personal view is that imprisonment is not a viable solution for most individuals. If reparations must be paid, they should go to the victim, and not to the state for victimless crimes. Imprisonment will cost the taxpayer about 40k per individual to remain incarcerated. Life outside of prison can become more like one if people utilized voluntary systems to boycott or raise prices on services to those who commit crimes until they have paid back their victims. I guess you could call it a debt to society, but I don't like the idea that one 'owes' society. If you harm an individual, I believe you owe them some form of compensation, as determined through an arbitration service, competing in the marketplace to give good service. Currently we have monopoly law enforcement and 'justice' which is anything but.
When you become rich ripple123, I'm sure you'll gladly line up for the same just desserts. - Myztry, on 09/24/2008, -0/+5Nothing strikes the common ground more than mortality...
- NanFan, on 09/24/2008, -0/+2I am for non-violent solutions to unjust laws and behavior, but I must say, if we do not get our US banking situation under control, we will see this kind of revolution in the US AND the World.
It is so sad that it's come to this...but it has. - jessehadden, on 09/24/2008, -0/+3The problem is, history has shown us that we (those whose strength is in numbers) typically can't get them (those whose strength is in money, and power, and the protection of the well-armed) into jail without first forming a mob. The rule of law is supposed to keep our society intact, by removing the need for the mob and all of that violence crap... but 9/11 freedom Jesus, and all that. So now, we're back to the old "keep your head down with worker's morality, until it becomes so objectionable that it's worth dying for change" model of doing things. Kinda sucks, doesn't it?
- PeppermintPig, on 09/24/2008, -0/+3Good post jessehadden. Just be sure you know who your enemies are and who's just trying to make a living and offering jobs to those who will take them. Too often the mob gets out of control and resorts to random violence and looting. This is also what the government uses to justify more violence against people.
- Azerael, on 09/24/2008, -11/+2Wouldn't it be better to merely take control of the wealth of these people (revolution, coup de etat, et al...) so that it can be put to better uses, instead of creating a rabid, disorganized lynch mob? Let them live the rest of their lives under bridges. In my mind, the irony of them lining up for welfare payments funded by their own former wealth would be more than sufficient punishment.
- PeppermintPig, on 09/24/2008, -2/+3If those people got to become CEOs based on their education and talents, they will soon be prosperous again, while those who stole the property of a CEO would squander it and likely do not have the incentive to earn more. Wealth redistribution doesn't work, and it's immoral to boot.
- PeppermintPig, on 09/24/2008, -2/+3If those people got to become CEOs based on their education and talents, they will soon be prosperous again, while those who stole the property of a CEO would squander it and likely do not have the incentive to earn more. Wealth redistribution doesn't work, and it's immoral to boot.
- WoollyMittens, on 09/24/2008, -2/+6First against the wall when the revolution comes.
- browntiger, on 09/24/2008, -1/+12When I watched wallstreet hearings one of the reasons for "crisis bailout" they give that banks will not loan money to each other. Hmm, why wouldn't banks loan money to each other? Banks could see 8K filings of other publicly traided bank, they reserves... Oh wait a minute, banks don't trust other banks books! Because they know they all cooking books, and using Enron accounting.
So FED, SEC instead of fixing fundamentals, and changing rules that exiting CEO will get jail sentence instead of golden parachute proposing to waste taxpayers money buying some worthless CDO, creditcard debt discharged by bankruptcy court, student loans.... cash for trash, instead of fixing accounting rules. Let's just give them money, instead of jail awards.
Well if crooked goverment won't do it, I like Indian justice system better and better. - frankidadio, on 09/24/2008, -1/+14No. Liquidate all their assets to pay down the debt, and make them live on minimum wage for the foreseeable furure.
- bluezinc, on 09/24/2008, -0/+9Actually... that's a good idea.
Most of these CEO's are billionaires (or close to it), they ***** the company and the economy up by being irresponsible asshats, maybe they should have to make up the difference.
I'm tired of privatizing the profits and socializing the risk. How about we reverse that trend for those responsible for a short while? - bgrah449, on 09/24/2008, -2/+1Limited liability is a bedrock of the West's economic success, and doing away with it is short-sighted and foolish.
- bluezinc, on 09/24/2008, -0/+9Actually... that's a good idea.
- stretch611, on 09/24/2008, -1/+4If we were to kill or maim every banker/politician/CEO that has fleeced the american people, we would run out of them very quickly... sounds like a better world already.
- atact88, on 09/24/2008, -13/+6Kill your boss when you get fired? Shoot your teachers when you get a bad grade? Blow up a bus full of people when the world just keeps stepping on you? YEAH LET'S DO IT. GO DIGG! VOTE FOR OBAMA
- Tarnum, on 09/24/2008, -1/+4"A straw man argument is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position.
To "set up a straw man," one describes a position that superficially resembles an opponent's actual view, yet is easier to refute, then attributes that position to the opponent. For example, someone might deliberately overstate the opponent's position. While a straw man argument may work as a rhetorical technique—and succeed in persuading people—it carries little or no real evidential weight, since the opponent's actual argument has not been refuted."
(Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man) - atact88, on 09/24/2008, -1/+1Actually, it's a concise summary of what I see daily on Digg.
- Tarnum, on 09/24/2008, -1/+4"A straw man argument is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position.
- prophetpimp, on 09/24/2008, -5/+22But in this case the CEO didn't do anything wrong. It was the workers who were wrong and deserve to fry in hell. This was no fat cat CEO. This guy made less then you guys do and has a teenage son and wife. He was a Victim of stupid Unions that are more interested in powerplays then in working. ***** you Congress and communist Party of India. I blame you assholes for this *****.
- digguser1357, on 09/24/2008, -3/+5I cannot believe you just condoned a murder!
- fx666, on 09/24/2008, -1/+3I heard that Elliott Spitzed is loading his gun and getting ready to go to the Wall Street to do some serious damage. Now this is his chance to prove that he is a real Wall Street sheriff and not the client # 9.
- sanman, on 09/24/2008, -5/+6The story gets even WORSE:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/a ...
India's Labour Minister thoughtlessly tried to justify the mob's brutal act.
He later apologized.
This is what socialism leads to, unfortunately.- Zique, on 09/24/2008, -0/+3India is one of the most capitalist countries out there. Nice fail.
- pjpark, on 09/24/2008, -2/+2Leaders of financial institutions navigate shifting economic conditions and a myriad of complex and ever-changing laws and regulations - including those that require them to make loans to higher risk customers - to find innovative ways to provide capital to as many people as possible in order to make money for their stockholders, depositors, and employees. They work hard, give to charity, contribute to their communities, vote Democrat or Republican or both, and have families. Their decisions helped put thousands of people through college, helped people live better in retirement, and financed insurance payments to disaster victims. People make and lose money on investments every day and almost always make a profit over the long haul; but once they've lost their lives they don't get them back. Who are you to say whether bankers, CEOs, or congressmen should live or die?
- digguser1357, on 09/24/2008, -0/+2Encore!
Well said!
- digguser1357, on 09/24/2008, -0/+2Encore!
- Stevethegreat, on 09/24/2008, -0/+1That would be meaningless, even if you hunt and shoot down the last one of them there would still be like-minded people eventually taking their places. Our problem is not those individuals but the system that favors that kind of behavior. My personal belief is that it is that government has too much power and hands it unwisely that creates those conditions but I may be mistaken. The topic at hand -though- is that you/we have to construct a system of which check and balances would discourage anti-social behavior (behavior that does harm to the society at large) in such places of power. Of course incorruptible social systems can't exist but there are those which are less easily corruptible than the one we have now and that are the ones we should seek out rather than killing the products of this bad system...
I mean look at French revolution, the culprits were killed to the last one but France didn't become any more of a better place, in fact just few years after the fact they were granted an even worse tyrant and that was because the French revolution offered no better system which could work than the one that was before. What we need is modification of what we already have, evolution of the system rather than another revolution. Obviously our economics need an overhaul and this won't come without such crisis (like the one we have in 2008)
- thundacatblue, on 09/23/2008, -18/+88If only in America...
- ousthouse, on 09/24/2008, -5/+12If someone hires me, does that mean they're required to employ me for life?
- bluezinc, on 09/24/2008, -3/+5No, but it would be nice to hold something higher than the bottom line. Many 1st world nations operate like this. In Japan, when someone is hired it's almost impossible to be fired unless you seriously, seriously, seriously ***** their ***** up. The worst that can happen to you is a demotion.
The problem is, these companies have so much overhead and bloated salaries for the upper elites that when they fail to meet their quarterly projections, instead of lowering their enormous salaries, they lay off a few thousand employees.
It's greed at it's most refined. They are saying, "my extra 6 million is more important to me than the guilt I would feel of drastically impacting thousands of people's well being, let alone their family's well being" or, put simply, "i think i my money is more important than all of my employees futures and families".
I'm not saying we should impose laws to mandate how businesses are run, but maybe taxing those uber-wealthy people a lot more would perhaps help change the wall street community. - dOOBiEx213, on 09/24/2008, -6/+1You're just a bitch.
- PeppermintPig, on 09/24/2008, -1/+3Employer: "So, you want to work for me?"
dOOBiEx213: "Yeah. When do I get my damn paycheck, bitch?"
Employer: "Get out."
- bluezinc, on 09/24/2008, -3/+5No, but it would be nice to hold something higher than the bottom line. Many 1st world nations operate like this. In Japan, when someone is hired it's almost impossible to be fired unless you seriously, seriously, seriously ***** their ***** up. The worst that can happen to you is a demotion.
- PeppermintPig, on 09/24/2008, -6/+11Yes, lets go around murdering people because they run their business in a way that I disagree with.
GTFO Nazi!- klco, on 09/24/2008, -2/+7Actually I think the term you are looking for is 'communist' or perhaps 'anarchist'
- PeppermintPig, on 09/24/2008, -3/+2Probably. Maybe lowercase nazi would be a better way to put it since they seem to be a 'people's fascist' and loathe/hate government depending on who controls the reins, ignoring the fundamental problems with unaccountable power and not addressing why the status quo is what it is.
- LukasSmith, on 09/24/2008, -2/+6Tell that to the family of the more shmoo. Sorry mam your husband deserved to die because... well..... Just because corporations are evil?. Good luck with your kids. Goodbye.
- mahadiga, on 09/24/2008, -1/+6Unlike Americans, Indians do not have any Social Safety Net.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_safety_net - shoover, on 09/24/2008, -0/+1I see what you did there...
- ousthouse, on 09/24/2008, -5/+12If someone hires me, does that mean they're required to employ me for life?
- Deadpixel1221, on 09/23/2008, -17/+67It's about damn time.
- PeppermintPig, on 09/24/2008, -9/+9You don't have a right to a job.
- 12DHutch, on 09/23/2008, -11/+66It's unfortunate that workers have to resort to such measures and particularly sad for the CEO's family.
But how American is this protest!--in the days when Americans were passionate about the good of their country, that is; When they wouldn't quietly sit back and tolerate being spat on by a corrupt government.
Not that I'm condoning or advocating that kind of extreme violence but...
...you can push some people just so far. Then they say:
Enough is Enough.- thespiff, on 09/24/2008, -2/+9Killing is not a form of protest I'm fond of calling American. I'd like to think that the truly American form of protest is the march and the sit-in. The power of non-violence. You know, the sort of strategies a certain Dr. King believed in.
The Digg community is getting awfully militant lately. Maybe we should be talking about a march on Washington before we start talking about arming ourselves?- Kyan, on 09/24/2008, -0/+1A million man Digg march on Washington? You've got to be kidding.
- Abomonog, on 09/24/2008, -1/+5And how successful has marching been lately? The reality is that if we the people want our government to change we've got to quit marching at the "approved free speech zones" and march right up to the root of the problem.
This is going to mean that we must stop fleeing like deer when the police show up and yes, we are going to have to start getting militant when the police start getting militant on us.
I hate to say this but we are going to have to learn to march into the face of guns that are ready to fire and it will most likely cost many lives before the American populace realizes that our own government is much more dangerous to us than any terrorist organization and starts to fight back.
Revolution is American. Without it we would never had existed. - PeppermintPig, on 09/24/2008, -2/+2How about an armed march? Only show aggression to those who initiate it on you first. :)
There's always an element of chaos to a large group of people, and agent provocateurs are notoriously troublesome as well... but a few people who know one another doing an armed march.. that could work. - robEstyles, on 09/24/2008, -1/+2"Killing is not a form of protest I'm fond of calling American. I'd like to think that the truly American form of protest is the march and the sit-in."
That wouldn't have helped us in that Revolutionary War thing. - thespiff, on 09/24/2008, -0/+1Oh come on, the Revolutionary War has nothing to do with this. Our current situation is much more closely related to the Civil Rights movement than the Revolutionary War. We're skipping a step here if we go straight to militarism.
The future Americans protested unfair taxes by throwing tea in the Boston harbor. That's called non-violent protest. The English government responded by forcing them to quarter troops in their homes. At that point they were forced to take up arms. We aren't anywhere near that point in this country.
If you're trying to nail some drywall, and you are pissed because your bare hands aren't working very well, you don't go straight to a sledgehammer. - thedogfatherx, on 09/24/2008, -2/+1Majority of diggers are big pussies.
- bgrah449, on 09/24/2008, -0/+4There is nothing American about this murder at all. Further, there is nothing Indian about this murder at all - thespiff alluded to the power of non-violence, but this was shown to be effective by an Indian - Gandhi.
Judging by history, when the American is confronted with unfair government dealings benefiting one group of people economically at the expense of another group, what do we do? We break into your ships and throw all your ***** tea overboard, taking special care to not physically harm anyone needlessly in the process out of anger.
This murder is mob rule, nothing more - the complete antithesis of individual rights upon which this nation was founded.
I'm gonna stop now, because the more I write, the angrier I get that someone would call this protest American.- thedogfatherx, on 09/24/2008, -0/+1Majority of diggers will disagree with you.
- thespiff, on 09/24/2008, -2/+9Killing is not a form of protest I'm fond of calling American. I'd like to think that the truly American form of protest is the march and the sit-in. The power of non-violence. You know, the sort of strategies a certain Dr. King believed in.
- 2bsbc, on 09/23/2008, -33/+69Socialized Justice.
***** beautiful.- haydesigner, on 09/24/2008, -8/+5Socialism? You commie!
- MickGyver, on 09/24/2008, -1/+7Just like the socialized bailout?
- SpeedSteamBoat, on 09/24/2008, -4/+4Socialism != Communism
Joke fails.
- ousthouse, on 09/24/2008, -9/+34Mob justice.
***** disgusting. - Ovalteen, on 09/24/2008, -5/+8What exactly is just here?:
"It is understood that Mr Choudhary, who was married with one son, had called a meeting with more than a hundred former employees who had been dismissed after an earlier outbreak of violence at the plant. He wanted to discuss a possible reinstatement deal."
And they beat him to death for it. Just lovely. - cJw314, on 09/24/2008, -3/+3What is this "justice" you speak of?
- haydesigner, on 09/24/2008, -8/+5Socialism? You commie!
- stonebear, on 09/23/2008, -15/+45Warms the cockles of my heart.
- digguser1357, on 09/24/2008, -2/+1Really?
It must be very cold indeed!
- digguser1357, on 09/24/2008, -2/+1Really?
- MarkEarhart, on 09/23/2008, -16/+53This my fellow citizens is the only way we will ever be at liberty again!!! Take notes. I suppose those who fought the British during the American Revolution were "violent extremists?" *****!
Storm the Federal Reserve, storm Washington DC, storm Wall Street, and last, but certainly not least, take down every last one of the oligarchs and seize all of their assets for the federal budget. It's your damn money they stole to buy it all!!!
To arms America!!!- novenator, on 09/24/2008, -3/+7[picks up a pitchfork and torch]
seriously though, very inspiring words. We have very little left to lose, the time is quite ripe for revolution - Ymeg, on 09/24/2008, -2/+11If we take arms, the military will be send into bat-***** mode.
I don' know about you, but I don't exactly want billions of dollars of military to be pointed at us.
Nice way to speed up a police state, though.- SpeedSteamBoat, on 09/24/2008, -0/+3You may not realize this, but the American military has been spread very thin over Iraq, Afghanistan, and the rest of the world. Not to mention that American civilians far outnumber the troops in our military. At a certain point, not even "billions of dollars" can save you. Not to mention it's going to become very difficult to provide that expensive army with supplies when your money source (the American tax payer) has not only cut your funding off, but is your militant attacker. The U.S. has squandered its credit with the rest of the world who would have been unlikely to lend money to an American government attempting to enslave it's people anyhow. If the people revolted against the government the military would likely be defeated more by starvation of funds and supplies than by bloodshed.
I'm not saying it's time to take up arms just yet. Far from it. We haven't even reached the level of peaceful protest seen in the 60s yet. Violence should always be a last resort, but there is no doubt that the taking up of arms against a tyrannical government is the most American thing we could do should it come to that. It is, in fact, the real intended purpose of the 2nd amendment.
I would much rather meet death fighting for my liberties than allow them to be swept out from under me by fear. If it brings about a police state, so be it, but I'll be damned if it won't come at heavy price.
- SpeedSteamBoat, on 09/24/2008, -0/+3You may not realize this, but the American military has been spread very thin over Iraq, Afghanistan, and the rest of the world. Not to mention that American civilians far outnumber the troops in our military. At a certain point, not even "billions of dollars" can save you. Not to mention it's going to become very difficult to provide that expensive army with supplies when your money source (the American tax payer) has not only cut your funding off, but is your militant attacker. The U.S. has squandered its credit with the rest of the world who would have been unlikely to lend money to an American government attempting to enslave it's people anyhow. If the people revolted against the government the military would likely be defeated more by starvation of funds and supplies than by bloodshed.
- Nintendesert, on 09/24/2008, -4/+5Do something. Do something other than posting on Digg. I'm still waiting for one of you big talkers on here to do something. All you basement-revolutionaries talk and talk a big game but not one of you has the balls to put your life on the line to make any real change.
You're content to post here and revel in your faux indignation while continuing to suck at the teet of the system you claim to despise.
You're all hypocrites.- fx666, on 09/24/2008, -1/+3I am Vladimir Lenin and I approve your message.
- Myztry, on 09/24/2008, -1/+4You mean like that Finnish dude with the youtube postings...
Better people keep posting rather than going postal...
- blakeage, on 09/24/2008, -2/+5How do you know they haven't done something?
- Nintendesert, on 09/24/2008, -1/+2Because nothing has changed.
- PeppermintPig, on 09/24/2008, -3/+6It took the unjust murder of a private individual to motivate you to attack the political machinery. WTF kind of train of logic is that?
- spidur1, on 09/24/2008, -3/+3How about this?
VOTE 3RD PARTY!
PEACEFUL REVOLUTION- vanza001, on 09/24/2008, -1/+3"The tree of liberty must from time to time be refreshed with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure." - Thomas Jefferson
- diggopolous, on 09/24/2008, -0/+1I wish I wasn't so busy storming the castle of Frankenstein or I'd join ya!
- thedogfatherx, on 09/24/2008, -2/+1And what exactly are you going to do? Nothing. Sit on your computer and talk about it. You won't even try to contact you representatives I bet.
- novenator, on 09/24/2008, -3/+7[picks up a pitchfork and torch]
- JATCA69, on 09/23/2008, -2/+94Unfortunately Americans don't want to rebel...they wouldn't mind watching it on T.V. though.
- MarkEarhart, on 09/24/2008, -1/+6Sadly, this is true. I would like to see the citizenry put a stop to this ***** before resistance becomes futile. We're going to have to get in a hurry to avoid this.
- citizen782, on 09/24/2008, -2/+4If we can dial in to vote on who get bludgeoned first we might get somewhere.
- PeppermintPig, on 09/24/2008, -3/+2These guys rebelled against their former boss, not against an oppressive regime.
If people can't tell the difference, then there is no justice in a revolution. I'm all in favor of seeing tyranny swept away, but I will not help you carry out murder against innocents. - Oracle95, on 09/24/2008, -0/+4... sit at home watching TV and voting for whomever the newsmedia tells them to?
- ripple123, on 09/24/2008, -1/+2if they end up with not enough money to eat, you can bet your ass therell be rebelling
- JATCA69, on 09/24/2008, -0/+1No...when they don't have enough money to eat, then they beg from the very ones that are starving them.
- Jorlock, on 09/24/2008, -1/+4Or they're just sitting on their computer commenting on it... bastards
- Dumbledorito, on 09/23/2008, -2/+37In other news, Wall Street and Banking CEOs demand "Steel Humvees" instead of "Golden Parachutes."
- stretch611, on 09/24/2008, -1/+8That way they can literally drive over people now that they lost the ability to do it figuratively.
- LeepII, on 09/23/2008, -10/+31Americans have a lot to learn......
- zadadka, on 09/24/2008, -2/+10When hasn't that been true?
- digguser1357, on 09/24/2008, -1/+2I presume you'll be the next murderer!
- jonnyx, on 09/23/2008, -15/+43They can't chuck everyone in jail if blood is on everyone's hands. Well played.
- nynety, on 09/24/2008, -0/+16http://in.news.yahoo.com/32/20080924/1053/tnl-noid ...
- SpeedSteamBoat, on 09/24/2008, -0/+2America, ***** YEAH!
- nynety, on 09/24/2008, -0/+16http://in.news.yahoo.com/32/20080924/1053/tnl-noid ...
- 140Suffolk, on 09/23/2008, -23/+13You people are crazy. What will happen is that investment will shy away from India.
And NOBODY will have a job.- Dumbledorito, on 09/24/2008, -4/+13Yes. That already happened. All of the call centers closed and the jobs came back to America. Well done.
- 140Suffolk, on 09/24/2008, -5/+3Well I didn't say it would happen instantaneously.
- MarkEarhart, on 09/24/2008, -3/+7Such is the way nations are reborn. American entrepreneurs began what went on to become thriving businesses and made us an industrial giant. This can be done again. There is no avoiding the tough times ahead. The only question is whether our blood, sweat, and tears will be for the benefit of our enemy or for our nation.
- PeppermintPig, on 09/24/2008, -0/+1Isn't it something of a contradiction when people are murdering individuals which help the industry grow?
The true enemy is the system which uses force, the government, as it interferes with the peaceful activity of a business and its participants/customers.
- PeppermintPig, on 09/24/2008, -0/+1Isn't it something of a contradiction when people are murdering individuals which help the industry grow?
- Dumbledorito, on 09/24/2008, -4/+13Yes. That already happened. All of the call centers closed and the jobs came back to America. Well done.
- uberAileen, on 09/23/2008, -2/+5Not that this is a good idea, but, Dick Fuld, are you paying attention?
- uppitydiggers, on 09/23/2008, -3/+15This is why I'm always nice to the customer service reps, when I have to talk to them.
- thespiff, on 09/24/2008, -2/+4Dugg for making a good joke instead of talking like a crazy militant. And also for your username.
- VoodooPunk, on 09/23/2008, -22/+13Yay!!! They killed an evil CEO!!! /sarcasm
Are you people serious. This is pathetic (as is everyone of you that applauds the tactics of the mob). Hopefully every one of those laid off idiots spends the rest of their lives behind bars.- Dumbledorito, on 09/24/2008, -8/+10You know, you strike me as the kind of guy who would say that someone holding a "no blood for oil" sign at a McCain rally who got his ass kicked "should have known better."
If you're a wealthy CEO in a country where clean water is a luxury item and you showed up in front of over a hundred people you just *****-canned... I'm not sure where the brain was he earned his business degree with, but he sure didn't bring it with him to this final labor relations meet-up.- VoodooPunk, on 09/24/2008, -4/+5So...because I condemn the actions of a mob that beats someone to death, I strike you as someone that would be fine with a mob at a McCain rally beating someone up? Logical thinking is not something you excel at is it?
- digguser1357, on 09/24/2008, -1/+0@dumExcuse me Professor!
He was in for talks for reinstatement of workers who were laid off!
Was that a bad move??
Do you think he shouldn't have tried to help those workers?
In hindsight that seems a bad move doesn't it?
Btw clean water is NOT a luxury item in India.
- citizen782, on 09/24/2008, -6/+5I for one applaud the mob mentality.
- Ymeg, on 09/24/2008, -5/+9Don't worry. Digg does not represent the intelligent population of America.
These kids will grow up soon.- PeppermintPig, on 09/24/2008, -3/+3Judging by the politicians, I doubt it.
Just another issue where the mob acts on passion and ignores the principle of the matter. It's a childish mentality that shows a disregard for property and liberty, which is what the government sets as a role model for all the little Hitlers out there, whether they're agents of the state or not.
Congratulations assholes, you've fed into the lies the politicians feed you and are willing to violate the property and life of innocent people. It's the 'I've got mine, ***** everybody else' kind of spirit that proves you're ready to abandon your morals when it's convenient. - legendxx, on 09/24/2008, -2/+8Finally.. a beacon of reason among the comments of digg. I can't believe I'm reading comment after comment of people applauding the murder of a fellow human-being. It's really strange to be amongst a group of people who believe they are enlightened and more informed because they think the internet is the source of all truth and knowledge when in fact they fall victim to the same knee-jerk reactions that everyone else does.
Diggers are elitist sheep. - Dumbledorito, on 09/24/2008, -1/+1@legendxx: Mobs are elitist, now? Put down the Rove(tm) kool-aid before your words have any less meaning. The rest of your post reeks of irony, o enlightened and informed one.
Yes, murder is wrong. However, what did the CEO think was going to happen?
Further, our own country was founded on violence directed towards injustice, and it may happen again if no remedy presents itself and "the mob" has nothing to lose. Call this story an "object lesson" and quit trying to earn McCain points. - legendxx, on 09/24/2008, -0/+1@Dumbledorito
1) I'm voting Obama.
2) Government exists to protect its citizens.. it failed this man.
3) All human life is sacred.. even the scumbags. If you think this man deserved death.. he deserves a fair trial, not mob justice. Welcome to the civilized world.
4) Just because you have 'nothing to lose' doesn't mean it is the moral or ethical thing to do. Never justify something because you have nothing to lose.
5) Every learned historian will tell you that the American Revolution was really unjustified when compared relatively with the rest of the world's problems at the time. But I digress. Justifying unrelated violence by arguing that it 'worked for the American's in the 18th century' sounds pretty ***** thickheaded.
6) I never called mobs elitist. I called diggers who think they are better than the rest of the sheep elitist. Read what I said again.. They think that reading the internet makes them more informed than everyone else but still falls victim to the same emotional/psychological mistakes as everyone else.
- PeppermintPig, on 09/24/2008, -3/+3Judging by the politicians, I doubt it.
- Dumbledorito, on 09/24/2008, -8/+10You know, you strike me as the kind of guy who would say that someone holding a "no blood for oil" sign at a McCain rally who got his ass kicked "should have known better."
- mordochai, on 09/24/2008, -1/+31In US News: Paulson murdered by mountain of sacked money.
- joe8pack, on 09/24/2008, -4/+15There is so much we can learn from other cultures. This would seem to be a much fairer way to solve the current Wall Street crisis. If they give Paulson the 700 billion dollars, every taxpayer should get to whack him with a mallet. Come to think of it every taxpayer should get to whack him whether he gets the money or not.
- Kyan, on 09/24/2008, -1/+4Are you suggesting one whack per dollar?
- ripple123, on 09/24/2008, -1/+5make it a competition. call it the all-american whackoff
- purzzzell, on 09/24/2008, -1/+2dugg for making me lol.
- MrColdheart, on 09/24/2008, -5/+12I know it's wrong but I side with the people.
On the other hand if I was a billionaire living in a borderline 3rd world country with clean water problems I would be scared for my life.- digguser1357, on 09/24/2008, -1/+3Couch-communist
- MrColdheart, on 09/24/2008, -0/+2Pocket-fascist
- digguser1357, on 09/24/2008, -1/+3Couch-communist
- MarkEarhart, on 09/24/2008, -3/+11"You people are crazy. What will happen is that investment will shy away from India.
And NOBODY will have a job."
Such is the way nations are reborn. American entrepreneurs began what went on to become thriving businesses and made us an industrial giant. This can be done again. There is no avoiding the tough times ahead. The only question is whether our blood, sweat, and tears will be for the benefit of our enemy or for our nation.- dig1x, on 09/24/2008, -1/+6America became a thriving industrial giant becuse it ignored international trade accords (of the day), intellectual property rights (of the day), and stole a vast productive land.
America didnt become productive because of the virtue of its decisions, but by its "virginity" (those pesky 1st Nations were done-away-with right quick).
Add that to Europe destroying itself twice last century -- while the USA sold provisions and arms to both sides -- and *voila*, you've got "america: industrial giant".
This "America is a novel success because we've got great policy" is a myth; america has *terrible* public policy, and you've seen success in-spite of it.
The days when that bad policy could be ignored are over, the rest of the planet is finished killing one another -- America better change fast if it doesnt want to be buried under the weight of its corrupt plutocracy.
- dig1x, on 09/24/2008, -1/+6America became a thriving industrial giant becuse it ignored international trade accords (of the day), intellectual property rights (of the day), and stole a vast productive land.
- Destructorlio, on 09/24/2008, -12/+7I know it's a sin Lord, but this article made me smile.
- fadeout, on 09/24/2008, -6/+12Pay close attention and learn something, America. ;)
- jontalisman, on 09/24/2008, -3/+12I'm not sure violence will solve anything but a little anarchy now and then is a good thing, imho.
- citizen782, on 09/24/2008, -3/+7The British called the American Revolution anarchy and treason. The difference between treason and revolution is which side you're on.
- trejrco, on 09/24/2008, -2/+6True, but a random beat down is neither ... it is simply a criminal act.
You do not have a RIGHT to a job, nor to take someone's life for denying you that job.
(Sadly, the country you are in determines what RIGHTS you have ... and not all are equal.) - PeppermintPig, on 09/24/2008, -1/+5The difference really lies in whether you act for principles of liberty or not. Of course tyrannical government will consider it treason, because they feel entitled to a portion of what you create, just as this mob felt entitled to beat someone to death.
- trejrco, on 09/24/2008, -2/+6True, but a random beat down is neither ... it is simply a criminal act.
- BlacklabelSAR, on 09/24/2008, -2/+2Looks like violence did solve something, just like the American Revolution did.
- citizen782, on 09/24/2008, -3/+7The British called the American Revolution anarchy and treason. The difference between treason and revolution is which side you're on.
- YodaJones, on 09/24/2008, -5/+8This is what should be happening on Wall Street and in congress right now.
- MrColdheart, on 09/24/2008, -1/+1It's hard to attack people in Wall Street.
Those limousines are pretty touch to crack.
- MrColdheart, on 09/24/2008, -1/+1It's hard to attack people in Wall Street.
- superflydugg, on 09/24/2008, -1/+8So THAT'S why we have unemployment programs....
- dildoolielly, on 09/24/2008, -6/+11See, here in Amerika, we actually pay these sacks of sh*t lots of money when they fail.
John McCain endorses this action even in the face of a depression.- SifuMoKung, on 09/24/2008, -2/+5So does Obama ... be fair.
- Greengoo, on 09/24/2008, -3/+4You seemed to have misspelled America using a "K", I don't under..... oh I get it. I see what you did there. Crafty. Fresh.
- jacekpoplawski, on 09/24/2008, -5/+34After reading your comments I see that everybody on Digg is happy that mob just killed a man.
Everyday I learn something new about Internet.- citizen782, on 09/24/2008, -15/+8Ever stop to think that if a mob killed him the man might have deserved it? You can only be an evil rich bastard spitting in the faces of others for so long before it's gonna come back around.
- Ymeg, on 09/24/2008, -5/+22they killed them because they were fired?
That is not ***** right. Nice to see you have such developed ethics. - Ovalteen, on 09/24/2008, -4/+11How do you know he was an evil bastard? Is it a crime to be rich and successful now? In any case, whatever he did was far, FAR less evil than what this mob of ignorant fools has done to him.
People like you are no better than the religious nutjobs who call for atheists to be put to death because they're "evil". - thespiff, on 09/24/2008, -5/+5Some of us don't believe in capital punishment, even if it does make you feel better about yourself to bludgeon a guy to death...
- PeppermintPig, on 09/24/2008, -3/+5"People like you are no better than the religious nutjobs who call for atheists to be put to death because they're "evil"."
Exactly. An utterly abject lack of principle and sense of morality. - digguser1357, on 09/24/2008, -3/+1I second PeppermintPig!!
- Ymeg, on 09/24/2008, -5/+22they killed them because they were fired?
- Aethirig, on 09/24/2008, -0/+3I think there might be just a little projection going on, what with all the fun on Wall Street.
- citizen782, on 09/24/2008, -15/+8Ever stop to think that if a mob killed him the man might have deserved it? You can only be an evil rich bastard spitting in the faces of others for so long before it's gonna come back around.
- tulikaj, on 09/24/2008, -6/+12Why do people take every news story and make it be about America?
- Prathik89, on 09/24/2008, -5/+2I agree. Get over this 'I HATE AMERICA' crap.
WE GET IT.- SifuMoKung, on 09/24/2008, -2/+5I don't hate America. I just hate the greedy, lying assholes that hijacked it.
- PeppermintPig, on 09/24/2008, -2/+3But this guy was neither American, nor did he use force to hijack anything.
- sk11, on 09/24/2008, -0/+4Maybe because, most people on digg ARE Americans.
- digjam, on 09/24/2008, -0/+2Amen!
- Prathik89, on 09/24/2008, -5/+2I agree. Get over this 'I HATE AMERICA' crap.
- citizen782, on 09/24/2008, -1/+3Too bad the debate on the bailout is only going to take a couple of weeks. It's hard to organize a Washington protest against in such short time. The mob mentality is certainly called for this round.
- saysomestuff, on 09/24/2008, -3/+8Err, how did a story about India become about America?
- SifuMoKung, on 09/24/2008, -4/+3The word your looking for is "corollary".
- Greengoo, on 09/24/2008, -1/+6The word you're looking for is "you're".
- SifuMoKung, on 09/25/2008, -0/+1I'm embarrassed to see that I failed. Thank you.
- SifuMoKung, on 09/24/2008, -4/+3The word your looking for is "corollary".
- Ymeg, on 09/24/2008, -8/+59Are people honestly suggesting we kill CEO's?
This is ***** insane.
Nice to see such mob mentality take over any rational thought. Hey guys! Lets kill someone because they fired us!- thespiff, on 09/24/2008, -6/+12Yeah tell me about it. The Digg mob was cute when they hated on microsoft and fellated Linux/Mac. They were a little tiring when they got into the Obama loving, McPalin hating frenzy. But this whole "git yer guns, we gonna kill us some richies" thing is just plain scary.
- vanza001, on 09/24/2008, -5/+2The tree of liberty must from time to time be refreshed with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure." - Thomas Jefferson
- thespiff, on 09/24/2008, -1/+1It's useful to consider the historical context of that quote. Jefferson wrote that in response to Shay's Rebellion, before we even had a Constitution. He was in full-on revolutionary mode right then, trying to form a new nation.
- bffoley, on 09/24/2008, -1/+2Well, that's assuming they'd be willing to leave their mother's basement to go do it.
- PeppermintPig, on 09/24/2008, -0/+3You're no freedom fighter, vanza001.
- anshuman, on 09/24/2008, -2/+7Welcome to Digg.
- nwoantibody, on 09/24/2008, -5/+4well; in the US you there's been a financial rape of the dollar ---> the heart of the American economy.
these people in india killed some mf just because they fired him... whereas the Americans are just waiting to be sent to camps...
It isn't mob mentality to want to get the future of your children back in hand.
it is pure self-preservation- coyoteblue, on 09/24/2008, -2/+4This isn't self preservation, this is vengeance. Self preservation is saving money and trying to live economically. How does killing the CEO of your former employer help you get a new job?
Can you put "vengeful mob" on a resume? - SpeedSteamBoat, on 09/24/2008, -0/+2@Coyoteblue: He wasn't defending the actions of the Indians. He was explaining the viewpoints being expressed by Americans.
- coyoteblue, on 09/24/2008, -2/+4This isn't self preservation, this is vengeance. Self preservation is saving money and trying to live economically. How does killing the CEO of your former employer help you get a new job?
- cfuse, on 09/24/2008, -0/+3Well, it makes a change from giving them millions for ***** up everything.
- thespiff, on 09/24/2008, -6/+12Yeah tell me about it. The Digg mob was cute when they hated on microsoft and fellated Linux/Mac. They were a little tiring when they got into the Obama loving, McPalin hating frenzy. But this whole "git yer guns, we gonna kill us some richies" thing is just plain scary.
- citizen782, on 09/24/2008, -3/+5From these comments one could derive that we do not actually want to be "Corporate" America, but instead a free America first and foremost. Right now we are slave to the corporations and their manipulation of our government through lobbiest. Now that I think about it corporate Lobbying should be banned. There are few arguments that would support such a profession or need for their influence in Washington. People who are highly paid to endorse corporate agendas to legislators - do we really need that? Shouldn't products and services stand on their own?
Sorry for the stray off topic. Just bludgeon the Lobbiests.- Ymeg, on 09/24/2008, -2/+2You are very quick to support attacking people.
Are you in a safe state of mind? - serendipitously, on 09/24/2008, -2/+2The lobbiests are just a conduit for the money. If they weren't there it would just be direct contact between business and Politicians.
- PeppermintPig, on 09/24/2008, -1/+4The incentive must be destroyed, or it will continue. Unaccountable power in the political world and the excess of lobbyist promoted regulation has stifled the marketplace. Those who use force to defend the tyranny should be dealt with... but too few people appreciate that and would rather cheer about a mob action that makes them feel good. If you ever want to have wealth and power over your own life, you must fight those who would deny you your liberty, but you can't succeed by taking the lives of others and demanding jobs that aren't yours to be given.
Wallstreet is a generalization that does not appreciatively explain who is at fault. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were never truly private, as they could rely completely on government bailouts. Everything the government and the Federal reserve touches turns to *****, and they are the ones responsible. Banks are complicit in the scheme to defraud people, but it is again the Federal Reserve and their policy of fractional reserve banking and fiat currency which allows them to produce credit out of thin air and rob people through inflation.
- PeppermintPig, on 09/24/2008, -1/+4The incentive must be destroyed, or it will continue. Unaccountable power in the political world and the excess of lobbyist promoted regulation has stifled the marketplace. Those who use force to defend the tyranny should be dealt with... but too few people appreciate that and would rather cheer about a mob action that makes them feel good. If you ever want to have wealth and power over your own life, you must fight those who would deny you your liberty, but you can't succeed by taking the lives of others and demanding jobs that aren't yours to be given.
- Ymeg, on 09/24/2008, -2/+2You are very quick to support attacking people.
- kingjaydub, on 09/24/2008, -0/+6At least you know they weren't fired for not taking any initiative
- TedinAsia, on 09/24/2008, -7/+14Pretty obvious no one here will ever become a CEO, the 15% that were let go, just caused the factory to close and made everyone jobless...
To have a job is a privilege, not a right.- BlacklabelSAR, on 09/24/2008, -2/+4Then to be CEO of a Corp is also a priviledge.
- BBWolf, on 09/24/2008, -2/+4Yes, it is a priviledge ...that is usualy earned by effort, superior understanding and performance.
- buckrogers1965, on 09/24/2008, -0/+2Just like the workers. They also earned their place with effort, superior understanding and performance.
- BlacklabelSAR, on 09/24/2008, -2/+4Then to be CEO of a Corp is also a priviledge.
- sfacets, on 09/24/2008, -4/+2Obviously a leading Newspaper:
"Work protests coud threaten India's economy" > Outsourced spellcheckers on strike as well? - fretslide, on 09/24/2008, -2/+1Quite Seriously I don't think the real intent of mob was to kill him .They were just looking to get some "corporate attention" . Its a sad thing that this happened and a life was lost both intentionally or accidentally idk.
- MickGyver, on 09/24/2008, -7/+3Viva La Revolution!
- kishosingh, on 09/24/2008, -0/+3It was 22nd September when some workers come to know about their unemployment but there was no reason to CEO. The company was in Greater Noida which is in UP. UP is a state of India. You can say it is NCR of Delhi. The company was started before 6 months and within 6 months about 200 employees were got fired. This was the main reason of their fight.
- lanismycousin, on 09/24/2008, -4/+2let us do this to al lthe retards that run companies (e.g. Enron, and all of the other major busts) into the ground and then leave with massive loaded golden parachutes
- buckrogers1965, on 09/24/2008, -0/+1Nobody from enron was even convicted. The few convictions they did get were all overturned. It is sickening what the wealthy get away with.
- SifuMoKung, on 09/24/2008, -5/+8I think they should meet the same end as Marcus Licinius Crassus. Molten gold should be poured down their throats as a symbol of their avarice.
- amightywind, on 09/24/2008, -3/+4Yeah, he committed an awful crime. He gave the poor wretches jobs. You are a sadistic one. Peel the wings off of any flies today yet?
- banderwocky, on 09/24/2008, -1/+2Cause the working conditions in India are SOOOO good in a factory. They got fired because they tried to improve their working conditions and wanted a fair wage. The greedy CEO got what he deserved.
- amightywind, on 09/24/2008, -0/+1Better than slogging it out behind an ox.
- digguser1357, on 09/24/2008, -0/+1@ banderwocky:
oh omniscient one,how did you make such a sweeping generalisation?
Why did u assume that the CEO is greedy and the workers are sweet angels?
Its awful the left's attitude towards these kinda issues... the owner is always the evil guy and the workers are always angels! Gimme a break
- digguser1357, on 09/24/2008, -1/+3Sicko!
- PeppermintPig, on 09/24/2008, -0/+1Maybe he's referring to the mob. The guy already met his fate. Or is this another projection about 'wallstreet'?
- amightywind, on 09/24/2008, -3/+4Yeah, he committed an awful crime. He gave the poor wretches jobs. You are a sadistic one. Peel the wings off of any flies today yet?
- simonrward, on 09/24/2008, -4/+5The only good thing about this is that it triggered a perfect list of retarded digg users who I should block in one handy thread.
- crazybugger, on 09/24/2008, -0/+13Simply Outsource Bailout anger to India!
- SteelChicken, on 09/24/2008, -2/+16You people make me sick. Cheering a mob on for beating someone to death because they lost their jobs? Its not someone else responsibility to give you a job!
- franklymister, on 09/24/2008, -8/+2Talk to me again when you've lived thirty years as an Indian born into poverty.
By the way, if you yourself are ever attacked, and no one helps, will you forgive them because it's not someone else's responsibility to watch out for you?- digguser1357, on 09/24/2008, -3/+4Murder is never an answer dude.
- buckrogers1965, on 09/24/2008, -0/+1Ironically the aristocrats all came from families that killed to get ahead. Which is why they have wealth now. But now it is wrong.
- digguser1357, on 09/24/2008, -3/+4Murder is never an answer dude.
- digguser1357, on 09/24/2008, -2/+4Well said!
- phatfiend, on 09/24/2008, -2/+9That is not even a valid argument franklymister. Being born poor dosn't give you the right to kill to get ahead, or to get revenge. Whoever lead this group to violence is a coward, end of story. Did you even read the article? The executive was discussing a reinstatement deal because the employees had been fired for violent outbreaks before.
- franklymister, on 09/24/2008, -8/+2Talk to me again when you've lived thirty years as an Indian born into poverty.
- lohphat, on 09/24/2008, -2/+5"Thank you, don't come again!"
- amightywind, on 09/24/2008, -11/+4"East is East, and West is West, and never the twain shall meet."
Despite the constant drumbeat of opinion of its entrance into the modern world, India is barely one step removed from tribal savagery.- franklymister, on 09/24/2008, -3/+10I guess you've never heard of the Chicago riots of 1968? How about Kent State? Lynchings and riots in the south? LA after Rodney King? Labor riots in the '30s?
Or does "tribal savagery" only apply if you're brown and foreign?- Greengoo, on 09/24/2008, -1/+7Your first mistake was assuming this guy would listen to your refute and not dismiss it as crap.
- digguser1357, on 09/24/2008, -2/+6You sir, are grossly misinformed and prejudiced.
- banderwocky, on 09/24/2008, -1/+2And clearly, you've never been to India. There are place in the US I would never go for safety reasons.
- meghalc, on 09/24/2008, -1/+2Go ***** your mother.
- franklymister, on 09/24/2008, -3/+10I guess you've never heard of the Chicago riots of 1968? How about Kent State? Lynchings and riots in the south? LA after Rodney King? Labor riots in the '30s?
- franklymister, on 09/24/2008, -4/+3Just the free market in action, people!
- PeppermintPig, on 09/24/2008, -2/+3This is entitlement mentality. The free market is about voluntary action and minimizing sources of harm.
- franklymister, on 09/24/2008, -3/+3Tell me what the CEO did to entitle him to his lifestyle, and what the workers did wrong that caused them to be born into the lives they were born into.
This is India we're talking about here. It's not a country (as if any existed) where everyone gets the same number of chips at the start of the game. - PeppermintPig, on 09/24/2008, -2/+2I can't help what parents I have no more than I can change my race, so I can't argue the morality of the life one was born into. The only reasonable thing a person should do is judge the actions of others.
In what world do all people start with equal outcomes? Equality of opportunity is liberty. Equality of outcome is tyranny.
Nobody is entitled to profits. He must have been creating something valuable to earn his position. Not everyone does, particularly those who use force and fraud to gain advantage.
- franklymister, on 09/24/2008, -3/+3Tell me what the CEO did to entitle him to his lifestyle, and what the workers did wrong that caused them to be born into the lives they were born into.
- PeppermintPig, on 09/24/2008, -2/+3This is entitlement mentality. The free market is about voluntary action and minimizing sources of harm.
- wassim2k, on 09/24/2008, -1/+1It's obvious that nobody here has read the article. Most of the mob were not employed at the company.
- tablatronix, on 09/24/2008, -0/+3LOCAL 187
- lazerflesh, on 09/24/2008, -0/+2lol, nice.
- Hyperion1144, on 09/24/2008, -2/+10I believe this was how the French Revolution got started. And yes, it was scary, particularly for the royalty and the aristocrats.
- matu4251, on 09/24/2008, -1/+1No just royalty and aristorcrats... between 20,000 and 40,000 people were executed by a guillotine without a trial just on accusation of "counter revolutionary activities".
- buckrogers1965, on 09/24/2008, -0/+1So they got the lackeys and the henchmen of the aristocrats too. Good to know.
- matu4251, on 09/25/2008, -1/+1What I had in mind was more: a lot of innocent also got killed in the process. Since there were no trial, anyone could be executed for no reason (no need to justify, plus "counter revolutionary activities" is pretty generic).
Isn't that what a lot of people on Digg are complaining about with the patriot act?
- matu4251, on 09/24/2008, -1/+1No just royalty and aristorcrats... between 20,000 and 40,000 people were executed by a guillotine without a trial just on accusation of "counter revolutionary activities".
- ripple123, on 09/24/2008, -3/+3thats one dead body corporate...
- PeppermintPig, on 09/24/2008, -1/+9I know everyone's ***** is a little emotional right now, but we got these two candidates who are going to fix ALL of our problems.
/facepalm- mcla007, on 09/24/2008, -0/+3And if you don't like the lesser of two evil, just vote for the lesser of *three* evils.
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