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The Job Slump: Why Men Are Hurting More Than Women

finance.yahoo.com — Men, concentrated in the weakest sectors, are losing jobs in this downturn, while women make gains...

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  • Hockey13, on 05/13/2008, -3/+41FTA:

    "Some analysts even argue that men are less suited than women to the knowledge economy, which rewards supposedly female traits such as sensitivity, intuition, and a willingness to collaborate."

    So it's come full circle.

    1950s PSA voice: The average male worker is an interesting and relatively unknown entitiy. Extensive science-like research has proven that males are inferior, but as a necessary staple in the workplace, we must be prepared to deal with them. When you see a male in the workplace, be sure to remind him how intuitive his comments are, especially when they're not. The male is an uncooperative species, so when you approach him, do so slowly and with a pitchfork.
    • Conwaysb0718, on 05/13/2008, -0/+9I find your comment especially intuitive.
    • kumarei, on 05/13/2008, -3/+91800 Newspaper: In other news, slaves are stealing jobs from hard working white Americans.
    • mike17032, on 05/13/2008, -7/+30That line is pure *****. Wanna see a whole lot of in fighting and bickering? Toss a few women into an office and sit back and watch. That whole "women collaborate better" line is the biggest sack of horse ***** women have ever sold to the world.

      Remember in high school how the women cliques always went around feeding on gossip and back stabbing and in fighting? Ya they never really grow out of that *****. The guys on the other hand would throw down and then get back to work.
      • LokitheComplex, on 05/13/2008, -1/+3Karl Marx thought that women didn't need to become communists because they were already very communal. Twaddle. Its the view of an outside looking at any group. Right there are reasons communism was flawed.
        • Jlaugh, on 05/13/2008, -0/+2Care to articulate your point a bit more? What are these reasons you haven't communicated.
          • LokitheComplex, on 05/13/2008, -0/+1Sure. "The Communists have no need to introduce community of women; it has existed almost from time immemorial." - Communist Manifesto.
            I'm not a rabid anti communist. I just think it doesn't work because its based upon a false understanding of humanity as demonstrated by this detail which ties in with the sentiment here.
    • CCricers, on 05/13/2008, -4/+9I thought many studies concluded that intelligence in men are more varied in the extremes than in women. For every smart woman you have a smarter man, but for every dumb woman you have a dumber man.
      • Conwaysb0718, on 05/13/2008, -1/+9yea, but you can call that guy a dumbass and tell him thats why you wont be hiring him and you probably wont be facing a discrimination lawsuit. Maybe a punch in the chops tho...
        • MxM111, on 05/13/2008, -1/+2But is not it because, as per previous comment, he is dumber than a dumb woman?
        • Conwaysb0718, on 05/13/2008, -0/+1huh?
    • HeroreV, on 05/14/2008, -0/+1I'll stick to software development, where women are practically non-existent.
  • SteelChicken, on 05/13/2008, -12/+71and yet women still feel obligated to plunder mens wallets.
    • Envark, on 05/13/2008, -9/+5All generalizations are true. Always.
      • SteelChicken, on 05/13/2008, -3/+3the above sentence is a lie.
        • RealmDown, on 05/13/2008, -0/+3The following sentence is a lie:

          . The above sentence is a lie.
        • faskill, on 05/13/2008, -1/+1*Obligatory reference to the cake cake being a lie*
      • aliengoods, on 05/13/2008, -0/+4Lighten up and get a sense of humor.
    • RealmDown, on 05/13/2008, -4/+18That's just smart. Why *shouldn't* women save their money when men are stupid enough to let them spend theirs ?
      • SteelChicken, on 05/13/2008, -7/+3Oh I agree! Darwinism at its finest.
        • plhearn, on 05/13/2008, -3/+1Diggers are all about relating everything to Darwinism
        • kumarei, on 05/13/2008, -2/+1Yes, because women are more likely to have children than men.
          • RealmDown, on 05/13/2008, -0/+3Well, if it was the other way around, they'd have a guest spot on Oprah and wouldn't need a job.
    • CiXeL, on 05/13/2008, -6/+11honestly i would rather bat for the other team before i let a women plunder my wallet.
      marriage is empty of win and full of lose.
      there is nothing for the man and the woman stands to gain everything.
      the only thing pushing you towards marriage is your girlfriend or your parents.
      there are piles of shattered and broken men that have been chewed up and spit out by the marriage beast.
      venture into marriage at your peril.

      http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ii-dVIYBVZ8
      • Conwaysb0718, on 05/13/2008, -4/+15actually, I like being married. my wife and I work well as a team and actually have a partnership in which we both give and take equally.
        • eryximachus, on 05/13/2008, -1/+4You are in the distinct minority. I am hopeful myself though, and am actually engaged at the moment.

          Still though, everyone I know who has been married longer than five years has gotten divorced.
        • mustafya, on 05/13/2008, -1/+1Me and my wife work together well. We both make the same money. We share responsibilities. Basically we are like best friends and roommates. The reason so many people are miserable in marriage is they get married literally for the wrong reasons or without enough knowledge of the other person. You honestly hardly even know someone even after a year. And you seriously need to consider if you will be happy spending that much time with them for the rest of your life.
        • Pstmann, on 05/13/2008, -1/+4Good for you, hope it lasts.
          Odds are it won't and odds are again that she will be the one to initiate the separation and divorce. Then ( in the US ) she will have the right to half of the assets, ( if children ) child support, and (if you were nice enough to let her stay home and jack-off) alimony.
          Getting married in the US is the single worst financial decision a man can make. They should have it at the top of the lists at financial seminars of what mistakes not to make.
      • dianebl, on 05/13/2008, -2/+2whoa, bitter much?
      • Jlaugh, on 05/13/2008, -0/+2Yeah I wanted a marriage like that, instead I got a selfish manipulative control freak, who cheated.
    • aliengoods, on 05/13/2008, -2/+4Any man who is married to a professional woman and gets a joint checking account is begging to be overwhelmed by Ikea merchandise.
    • msk275, on 05/13/2008, -0/+3joint credit cards is just begging for a woman to plunder it.
  • murraj2, on 05/13/2008, -5/+19Because during recessions alcohol and prostitution use increase.
    • plizard, on 05/13/2008, -7/+3it would help that we were in a recession first.
      • aliengoods, on 05/13/2008, -1/+3I'm not really part of the "sky is falling" crowd, but I'm not going to bury my head in the sand either. We have yet to see the real impact of high gas prices and the housing market collapse, and all indicators are pointing towards recession. We just need the current quarter to end for the definition to be met, or are you expecting some economic boom to occur within the next month?
    • RealmDown, on 05/13/2008, -1/+5Holy crap! I've been in a recession for YEARS !!
      • aliengoods, on 05/13/2008, -0/+2I wish I were in a recession. My ass has had 10 years of positive growth.
  • drkmccrthy, on 05/13/2008, -1/+26FTA:
    "Among digg users, the trend is reversed; this statistic is attributed to the fact that not one digg user is in either construction or manufacturing."
  • JayTee44, on 05/13/2008, -13/+50It doesn't matter how far ahead women go in this culture, it's still all about them, and somehow it's all men's fault. Women will still be portrayed as the victims, deserving of special protections.
    • kumarei, on 05/13/2008, -13/+12Whine again when women have comparable salaries to men.
      • dracflamloc, on 05/13/2008, -4/+3They'll have the salaries when they start demanding them. Then men will undercut their salaries. That excuse is void.
      • neko6, on 05/13/2008, -2/+10Studies show that if you calibrate (some unintuitive) other factors (experience, education, height, number of work hours per day, etc.), women and men earn on average the same.
      • mike17032, on 05/13/2008, -5/+7Sure, as soon as they start pulling their weight.

        Taking time off to crap out a baby isnt going to impact average salary and advancement?
      • B1663r, on 05/13/2008, -2/+10Wow, women employees cost less??? Why would any company interested in its bottom line hire men if women cost less to employ?

        There have been plenty of studies on the matter, and women make the same as men do. Their lifetime income is less because women usually leave the workforce to have children, or they choose career paths that give them the option to have children. Among college educated unmarried and childless women, women actually make $1.01 for every $1.00 that men make.

        You can argue with the biological facts all you want. But women ~like~ having children, and that causes them to choose career paths that make less money over their lifetime.

        If you want to talk about unfairness in the workplace, lets talk about workplace deaths. Who do you suppose does the more dangerous jobs, men or women?
      • thailand1972, on 05/13/2008, -0/+10The myth than women are paid less than men is based on the blunt analysis of wages IN TOTALITY added up, then divided by number of men/women. Men AS A WHOLE earn more than women. This doesn't mean that men earn more than women in the exact same jobs - it means men put in more hours (women make up majority of part-time staff), do riskier work that pays more, and are more "careerist" than women (maybe that's cultural, but it's not sexist).

        Oh, and there are anti-discrimination laws in the workplace to protect both women AND men from sexism and being treated unfairly just because of their sex.
      • Pake, on 05/13/2008, -0/+2Women are generally paid more today than men are for doing the same job. Simply put, employers can't pay them less or the same, otherwise they'll get sued for discrimination. They can't fire them or else they'll get sued for discrimination and I'm being 100% serious. Companies are scared of firing women, turning down women for jobs, and paying them lower wages for just starting, so they pay them as much as people who have worked at the company longer.
    • jaythree9, on 05/13/2008, -10/+5Wah wah wah. You can bitch about it when there are more women than men getting paid higher salaries, are rapists, are pedophiles, are domestic abusers. Then you may have cause to complain. And no, asking you to pick up your dirty underwear is not domestic abuse no matter how much you may want to feel persecuted by it.
      • faskill, on 05/13/2008, -0/+5What the hell are you talking about jaythree? Are you attempting to insult men?
      • thailand1972, on 05/13/2008, -0/+7Who's making the "wah wah wah" noise now? You seem to be equating victimhood with being able to do anything you please. And as far as your claims go, women make up the majority of domestic child abusers and also are between 45-55% of domestic violence initiators (http://www.dv-stats.org/) depending on which study you read. It doesn't really matter anyway - my point is that a victim is a victim regardless of their gender, and a perpetrator is a perpetrator regardless of their gender, and being a victim doesn't mean you lose your responsibilities.
    • Thinkpol, on 05/13/2008, -0/+1You shouldn't generalize all women.
  • doktorrocket, on 05/13/2008, -4/+35"Meanwhile women are graduating from college at higher rates than men."

    Clearly we need some new male-focused programs at our nations' colleges to encourage gender diversity. The current "College: Four years of beer and boobs" awareness campaign isn't working.
    • truthhammer, on 05/13/2008, -3/+8Yes, we must create a task force with federal funding, plus order a congressional investigation to figure out why more men aren't graduating college. This is an outrage, men must be giv...wait...men? I misunderstood, never mind. /sarcasm off.
    • JargonScott, on 05/13/2008, -1/+4That's because there are many cheaper and easier avenues to beer and boobs outside of college. Strip clubs don't require a dissertation. :)
    • cronian, on 05/13/2008, -0/+4Supposedly, college classes were changed to put less ephasis on final exams. For some reason, women do better on long-term projects than final exams. As I understnad it, this has made things harder for men.
      • WiredLain, on 05/13/2008, -0/+1It's that lone wolf attitude us men have. Really messes with group projects.
  • mc786030, on 05/13/2008, -8/+17boobs
    • faskill, on 05/13/2008, -0/+8I just don't have it in me to digg down boobs.
    • oldgal, on 05/13/2008, -0/+1Might as well play the cards your dealt:)
  • VandyB, on 05/13/2008, -9/+21Answer: Because they have *****.
  • Conwaysb0718, on 05/13/2008, -11/+31"While they're getting more jobs, their pay is stagnant"
    And they still find a way to bitch. Amazing.
    • SpykerSpeed, on 05/13/2008, -1/+3LOL! Oh how true. "Women and minorities hardest hit."
    • orlyfactor, on 05/13/2008, -5/+4Well, they ARE women.
    • kumarei, on 05/13/2008, -8/+4Yes, I hate it when people who have only recently been granted the chance to work are demanding equality. Why can't they just shut up? I mean, now, when I want to hire someone for less than standard wage because of their gender, it makes me look like a sexist pig.
    • jaythree9, on 05/13/2008, -3/+3sounds to me like you're the one bitching.
    • Veretax, on 05/14/2008, -0/+1funny, no pay versus pay... I wonder which I would take.
  • cambob76, on 05/13/2008, -13/+16Why aren't they in the kitchen baking us men some pie?
    • drkmccrthy, on 05/13/2008, -3/+11Haven't you watched Hell's Kitchen or Top Chef? Because men do it better...
    • RealmDown, on 05/13/2008, -5/+11They are. Pay no attention to the aftertaste though. It's really just almond flavored.
  • neoneddy, on 05/13/2008, -9/+25The article talked about the "Stubborn Pay Gap", My wife and I have a mutual married friend and she recently went back to work after having twins, only to quite as soon as she could without paying the medical bills. Now from a business owner's view, and needing to put food on his or her own table, I think it's very clear why hiring women is risky investment.

    • Conwaysb0718, on 05/13/2008, -5/+7You cant say that kinda stuff around here, mister.
    • oldgal, on 05/13/2008, -4/+9Gee, I know one guy who can't hold a job for more than 6 months at a time. By your logic I guess that makes men a risky investment.
      • publiclurker, on 05/13/2008, -1/+5There is a difference between not being able to hold a job and purposely taking a job for a short period of time solely for the insurance.
        • oldgal, on 05/13/2008, -0/+1However, the net outcome is the same:)
    • Sumtin2Say, on 05/13/2008, -0/+1This may be a little off topic, but that's why we'll never see the draft apply to women. They could preggers their way out of service. (I'm not calling into question the patriotism of women, I'm just saying...)
  • lazerus9, on 05/13/2008, -3/+20It is designed to destroy our society. It is a strategy that has been used before in other places. Why do you think comprehensive history is no longer taught, except in the most elitist schools? It is part of a "dumbing down" agenda. Napoleon did not want the lower classes educated at all!, except to the extent they could be used to provide basic services to the ruling class. Why do you think they say that the US is moving toward a service economy? Would you like fries with your burger lady?
    • Envark, on 05/13/2008, -3/+2I guess I'll just have to join the ruling class.
      • Conwaysb0718, on 05/13/2008, -2/+4you're assuming we'll let you join.
        • Envark, on 05/13/2008, -3/+3That's why the second amendment exists. ;)
          • korvan504521, on 05/13/2008, -2/+2our boy obama will take care of that little glitch in the plan next year.
        • Conwaysb0718, on 05/13/2008, -0/+2touche.
    • SpykerSpeed, on 05/13/2008, -5/+5History isn't as relevant a subject as economics and business. Those who control the capital and means of production control society. You might be giving the "gubmint" too much credit; it only accidentally ***** up our nation when it took over schooling our children.
      • Sinnic, on 05/13/2008, -1/+7But each of those subjects have their own history. 'History' as a subject isn't relegated to World War II trivia and persual of ancient manuscripts - it's a necessary part of defining and describing the reasoning and content behind almost everything we do. It's the most important subject there is, IMO.
        • SpykerSpeed, on 05/13/2008, -3/+1History is irrelevant except as a means to propagandize. The future is all that matters.
        • Sinnic, on 05/13/2008, -0/+2That's a scary attitude - rush headlong into a future without being able, or even willing, to identify the history of where you came from? Why your life has been shaped as it has by contemporary powers - how they came to be - what their plans were, and how they've changed over time and in the face of individual and collective agencies?

          Sounds either trollish or profoundly ignorant of the world we live in.
      • lazerus9, on 05/13/2008, -0/+4Your wrong! This was no accident! You are obviously a product of the Public School system. And I am not saying that as an insult to you, but you have just proved my point by your lack of historical perspective and your dismissal of history as unimportant! History is "the most important" subject!!
        It is your lack of historical knowledge that enables these elitist creatures to perpetrate the same scams over and over again growing more sinister as technology has advanced.
        • SpykerSpeed, on 05/13/2008, -0/+4Are you kidding me? I've read the texts of Jefferson and Locke. I know about government scams and elitism.
          • lazerus9, on 05/13/2008, -0/+1Good! Keep reading!
          • Sinnic, on 05/13/2008, -0/+2...then you've been using history as a tool to understand the world around you. Are you making our argument for us?
    • kumarei, on 05/13/2008, -4/+1Congratulations, lazerus9, you have won today's "you have no idea what the hell you're talking about" award. Good job!
      • lazerus9, on 05/13/2008, -1/+3And I should be concerned with what a little uninformed child thinks?
    • gryphon50, on 05/13/2008, -1/+1you should be concerned that you sound incoherent.
      • lazerus9, on 05/13/2008, -0/+1Why are you here? No one is "gay bashing"
  • Envark, on 05/13/2008, -12/+7I love the bitterness towards women on Digg.
    It cracks me up.
    • Conwaysb0718, on 05/13/2008, -0/+7I'm just glad I could brighten your day, mister sensitive.
      • Envark, on 05/13/2008, -3/+0You know me so well.
      • RealmDown, on 05/13/2008, -1/+2Way to kick the jobless when they're down, Ms Tactful. :-D
    • trixterIreland, on 05/13/2008, -4/+7if you cant get one, attack them :)
      • Envark, on 05/13/2008, -4/+6That definitely seems to be the spirit of things.
        Some of the dudes on Digg obviously need to get laid.
        • RealmDown, on 05/13/2008, -0/+2ALL of the dudes on Digg obviously need to get laid.

          Fixed that for you.
      • mike17032, on 05/13/2008, -2/+4Oh *****. You sensitive ***** wouldnt know a football from a titty because you never touched either one.
        • faskill, on 05/13/2008, -0/+2How do you turn the laces out on a titty?
          • RealmDown, on 05/13/2008, -0/+1Well, I usually unsnap it from her back first, and pull it down slowly.
  • glossNglow, on 05/13/2008, -12/+10Their pay is stagnant and has never been good, seems to me the men are the ones whining here. Women are getting more jobs because they are willing to take lower paying teaching, health care and service related jobs - which are beneath men, especially those with college educations.
    • RealmDown, on 05/13/2008, -2/+7"which are beneath men"

      Whoa. While you are being buried, let us know if you find oil because we need a new supply.
    • trixterIreland, on 05/13/2008, -4/+2women are taking jobs beneath men? I didnt realize that was the secret to their success, thanks for enlightening me.
      • korvan504521, on 05/13/2008, -1/+1well, I don't think you want to work the walk up and down 132nd street, but hey, if thats your dream job. . .
    • Envark, on 05/13/2008, -6/+3"service related jobs - which are beneath men"

      Prostitution.
    • publiclurker, on 05/13/2008, -1/+5So they have teachers in your area without college degrees. I guess that explains your response.
  • 1807, on 05/13/2008, -4/+27I think Eminem said it best.."I don't rap to get the women, ***** bitches. Give me a fat slut that cooks and does dishes."
    • SpykerSpeed, on 05/13/2008, -0/+14The wit and eloquence of Shakespeare, coupled with the misogynistic critiques of Al Bundy... brings a tear to my eye!
    • RealmDown, on 05/13/2008, -0/+5Aw man! Here I thought I couldn;t care less about Eminem, and now I have to.

      ( I still laughed though )
  • Starznhl, on 05/13/2008, -1/+7For the last 2 months my girlfriend has been on my ass to get a job. She's my sugar momma - she just doesn't realize it yet.
  • lewhich, on 05/13/2008, -8/+9to top it all off ... men still have to pay 3/4 of our salary to child support
    • Envark, on 05/13/2008, -7/+7Only if you are stupid enough to get a girl pregnant.
      • orlyfactor, on 05/13/2008, -4/+3Exactly - double bag that *****, boys!
        • Envark, on 05/13/2008, -2/+4I usually dissolve the body in lye, but to each their own.
      • lewhich, on 05/13/2008, -1/+4have you ever heard of: marriage -> kids -> divorce -> child support?
        • Envark, on 05/13/2008, -4/+2Step 2 is encompassed in:
          "Only if you are stupid enough to get a girl pregnant."
    • mike17032, on 05/13/2008, -2/+3Thats what you get for knocking up a prolife bitch.

      But ya I agree that child support from kids outside being married is *****.
  • tufftugg, on 05/13/2008, -2/+29 Women are soft and smell nice.
    • Envark, on 05/13/2008, -9/+1Dugg you down for saying something positive about women in a women-bashing thread.
    • mike17032, on 05/13/2008, -0/+8I think so too!

      But when i try and pet them and sniff their hair on the bus I get in trouble.
  • wsuvtx, on 05/13/2008, -2/+2There is a job slump?
  • orchidee2, on 05/13/2008, -6/+7I suppose, one reason for this development could be that women, once having achieved a job, do nearly everything to keep it.
    Men in the same situation tend to be proud of themselves and sometimes start doing "business as usual".
    • mike17032, on 05/13/2008, -1/+5Until it comes time to ***** out a few babies and go back home so daddy can bring in the income right?
      • spaceddaisy, on 05/13/2008, -1/+2Yeah cause men would be so capable of getting pregnant and having children, right? Sorry but if society wants to keep on existing, there's no other choice than for women to have children. How we wish we could ask the guys to take over that whole pregnancy thing.
  • RubineBoy, on 05/13/2008, -2/+5It's obvious ... They driving men into the prostitution.
    In a few years construction workers will toddle on every corner of your streets. Swinging their hammers.
  • dink, on 05/13/2008, -6/+5There is no such thing as a MALE and FEMALE economy. Who are they kidding? This is a huge distraction to keep you from talking about the fact that Helicopter Ben is ruining this nation's currency!

    • Jaablaze, on 05/13/2008, -1/+2YEA! ***** BEN!
    • mike17032, on 05/13/2008, -3/+3Shut up rontard, adults are talking here.
    • eimlauqons, on 05/13/2008, -1/+2You do not understand that there are jobs men can do, that women can not do?
      • hoodedrobin, on 05/13/2008, -0/+2Like the military...

        Speaking of... doesn't that count as an impact on the economy? Or the reason why men are not graduating from college as much?
        • eimlauqons, on 05/14/2008, -0/+1That and all the jobs men have to do to keep the world going, like mining, logging, construction etc. If most men were going to college the modern world would stop.
  • oldgal, on 05/13/2008, -2/+10If you are good at what you do and feel you are not being paid fairly, go find another job. All of us (men and women) know someone who is unjustifiably making more money than us. We rarely, however, make mention of someone who is unjustifiably making less than us.
    • Jaablaze, on 05/13/2008, -0/+4I totally agree. At my last job I was definitely getting underpaid. And the on top of that, they cut the bonus plan. Got fed up, found a new job, and now I'm happy :)
  • robthom, on 05/13/2008, -6/+4"Why Men Are Hurting More Than Women"
    Because most white men (and white people in general) are sado-masochistic gluttons for abuse and they're dragging everybody else into it.
    Its like white guilt, but from women to men.
  • Jaablaze, on 05/13/2008, -0/+10Well, from what I can see, the reason why women get paid less than men is because fields that usually give higher pay really aren't in the general interest of women. I am in the IT industry so I can only speak to that effect, but I have seen only 3 women ever in the companies that I worked for come in for an interview. Not saying that they couldn't do it, but I know no women personally that display the amount of interest in computers and technology that I do.
    • gryphon50, on 05/13/2008, -2/+3it's just as well they don't come in for an interview, the amount of sexual harassment they would have to face would be astronomical because it's such a male-dominated field.
      • scamper22, on 05/13/2008, -0/+1yeah okay. I've been in several companies, the men in IT/engineering are the last ones to sexually harass women.
        heck, I'm sure the few women in the field feel a bit under-harassed :P

        They miss those flirty compliments they normally get from normal guys.
    • Jaablaze, on 05/13/2008, -0/+2in all honesty, in general women would face more sexual harassment than men in any field...unless you work at curves or some other place thats dominated by women. Even in a place that lets say was split 50/50, your always gonna have that aggressive guy or borderline ***** that thinks no means yes. Bottom line, there are rules in place to take care of this. I have seen people fired over sexual harassments. All a woman would have to do is follow SOP and tell the appropriate person.
    • flashingcurser, on 05/13/2008, -0/+2Women get paid less because most take 5-10 years out of their lives to raise children. In the prime of their lives when they are still ambitious. Often at an age when higher education would still have been an option. I believe that equal experience/education to equal experience/education pay between the sexes is pretty damned close.
      • scamper22, on 05/13/2008, -1/+0you forget equal skill. Something almost impossible to measure by statistics.
  • Hillsfar, on 05/13/2008, -2/+4Women make up 55 to 60 percent of college students and are increasingly becoming the majority of college graduates. Might that also help explain it?
    • BradMW, on 05/13/2008, -1/+3Who cares about education, sociology, language, history, and leisure studies majors?
      • scamper22, on 05/13/2008, -1/+3the government does. That's who they hire.
        education = boom industry according to the article.
        government jobs = booming according to the article.
        health care/social work = booming

        Go where the money is my good man. If the government is paying for these things, dance to their tune. No point fighting it.
      • Sumtin2Say, on 05/13/2008, -0/+1They are beginning to dominate graduate programs as well. My wife is getting her PharmD. About 85% of her class is female. Her salary will be almost three times mine. Another female friend is working on her second masters. She is being promoted from a college academic advisor to assistant dean this week. Maybe anecdotal, but every female I know is ambitious and successful. The males, not so much.
  • Ghoztt, on 05/13/2008, -4/+3Feminism was not created, but supported, pushed & championed by the media in order to:
    DESTROY THE FAMILY and CREATE TWO TAX-PAYERS.
    The State cannot tell your children how to exist when there is a nuclear family doing that in their Stead. Welcome to the Welfare State!
  • funkytaco, on 05/13/2008, -4/+1Because everyone needs a cook or maid?

    (Sorry. I'm only sexist when it's funny.)
  • thailand1972, on 05/13/2008, -1/+7Does an employer REALLY think "oh she's a woman, I'll pay her 25% less than Steve who does the same job". If he thought that, why doesn't he also get rid of Steve, and hire another woman to replace him, saving even more money? And anyway, just WHY would an employer think like that?
    • spaceddaisy, on 05/13/2008, -1/+4They will actually think, well she would be great for the job, but I'm sure that she'll take a lot of time of to A. take care of the children or B. Take time off to -have- children, so might as well pay her less, since she'll be in less than 'Steve'.

      As a woman no matter how I can argue that I do not want children or that I have my family taken care of that I don't need to take time off for anything, they'll still think about it and enter it into calculations.
      • thailand1972, on 05/13/2008, -1/+1If an employer thought like that, they'd actually not even bother to hire the woman. That kind of employer is likely to think of the hassle factor too - employing someone else while the woman is off on maternity leave. Anyway, if YOU are being paid less because employers THINK you're going to be pregnant, they are breaking the law and you have a very strong case for discrimination. I just don't believe it exists on such a massive scale that it ends up that almost all women are paid less than men in like-for-like jobs - just another feminist myth to peddle the eternal victim status.
    • scamper22, on 05/13/2008, -0/+2what will really blow your mind is why you ask
      why don't more women open their own business.

      • thailand1972, on 05/13/2008, -0/+1You'd think they would given all the supposed discrimination they face. Yet in the UK, two thirds of self-employed people are men.
  • username484767, on 05/13/2008, -0/+4boobs
    • onelikeseabass, on 05/13/2008, -0/+2Get outta my head dammit. Ten minutes sooner and it would have been mine!
  • scamper22, on 05/13/2008, -1/+2This has less to do with 'intelligence' and everything to do with demand.
    Notice the 'booming' industries: health care, education, and government.
    The so-called 'public sector economy'. Yes, laugh it at, but that's what they call it. They tax you and make sure this part of the economy is healthy.


    How much of that is paid for by the tax payer? That is to say, it is a guaranteed economy. The government mandates that part of the economy. If you don't want to fix up your house or buy a car, you're free to put it off...even at your own peril. Education and health care are both heavily subsidized by government. They're also completely service oriented jobs, which means they cannot easily shift production overseas.

    So the results are fairly predictable. Women get well-paying guaranteed stable jobs.
    Men still take the risks/pressure/skills to get the high paying jobs. Other men not able to do that sink to the bottom of the ship without guaranteed jobs from government.

    Others have mentioned that men are of varied intelligence (some very smart, other very dum)

    The solution: Poor men, get into government work. Alternatively, enjoy being a stay at home dad. I know I wouldn't mind.

    • Sumtin2Say, on 05/13/2008, -0/+0Of course it is only anecdotal for me to offer my thoughts based on my own experience, but... I've seen that women like jobs where they feel like they are helping people. The three closest women to me are in education, healthcare, and the third just finished her undergrad and is in the peace corps. Just wanted to clarify that you weren't trying to say that they are purposely taking the easy safe route. Can't say they didn't work hard to get where they are. The one in education is finishing her second masters and the one in health care is finishing her PharmD.
      • scamper22, on 05/13/2008, -0/+0This is less a critique of women as it is public policy.

        People are going to choose their jobs. If the women in your life are choosing education/health care wonderful.
        The question is from a public policy perspective. We certainly have much more of an emphasis on health and education today in terms of monetary spending than we did a long time ago. So if you think of it, all that public money flows in that direction. Healthcare and education are thought of as a 'right'. You cannot just toss them aside as you would a new car purchase.

        Chances are they would have chosen the same career even if it paid less (and it would pay significantly less were not subsidized by the government).

        As to the 'easy route'. Depends what you mean by the easy route. We all take the easy route. I'm taking the easy route right now working for a big company instead of going out there starting me own business. Only men are that stupid to have that level of risk. Which is why the tend to up at those higher end positions instead of women. Hey, I'm a man, and I don't want to make that level of risk/work either. I certainly don't look at the wage gap as being wrong :)

        Looking to the future, I'll surely be telling my kids to get a job that this article would say is 'womanly' in terms of health care / education.


  • lisaawesome, on 05/13/2008, -1/+5Holy ***** I should have never opened these comments. We are not all a bunch of cliquey bitches who will only work until we can get knocked up and have a man support us. I kinda want to throw up after reading many of these comments. No wonder you haven't met any self respecting women. They are smart enough to run the ***** away from you assholes!
    • WiredLain, on 05/13/2008, -0/+2Same goes for those bitter ex-husbands and boy-friends, no wonder they divorced/broke up with you.

      I'm a guy by the way.
    • Shots, on 05/15/2008, -0/+1I think that there is a "silent majority" out there who know how to charm self respecting women... the rest of us whine and cringe on digg.
  • cubicledrone, on 05/13/2008, -1/+1What job slump? Unemployment is only 5% and has been for 75 years!

    Wait, you mean unemployment doesn't count all the unemployed people? SAY IT ISN'T SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
    • Shots, on 05/15/2008, -0/+1Unemployment only counts those who WANT to work, yet can't find work. Those who are not working and are just sitting on their ass surfing digg don't count.
  • eimlauqons, on 05/13/2008, -0/+1But would women want to run the overall economy, and have that responsibility on their shoulders?
  • fizzak, on 05/13/2008, -0/+0Eh,
  • leveck, on 05/13/2008, -0/+2Come to Wyoming there are more jobs here than people.
  • NMVK, on 05/13/2008, -1/+4"It's a Guy Thing"? Oh please, spare me your pre-fabricated gender-war drivel trotted out during the last economic downturn. Male and female citizens are getting screwed, and why? Because ... It's an Income Thing. The rich are getting richer off the backs of the working class ... men and women alike. Save your petty whining for the dolts. Digg may be a rowdy bunch, but we're not stupid. I hope.
    • WiredLain, on 05/13/2008, -0/+2You wouldn't know that by all the misogynistic comments for this article.
    • Shots, on 05/15/2008, -0/+1The rich spend money as well, and AS THE ARTICLE SAYS, they seem to be spending it more on healthcare and education, as opposed to manufacturing and construction.
  • entiendo, on 05/14/2008, -0/+1Tech jobs are the easiest to cut, move or consolidate, and they tend to be the most heavily male industries so this shouldn't surprise us too much. What is more interesting, imho, is how it's going to effect the dynamics of dual-income families and maybe the whole culture.
    • fraziebr, on 05/14/2008, -0/+0I agree with this observation considering the overall effect that dual income families has had on the American culture as a whole.
  • isparadiselost, on 05/15/2008, -0/+0Actually, it's quite simple. Men have allowed themselves to be emasculated and we have allowed the court system to view us as ATM machines and sperm donors. Having a Y chromosome these days puts us in a bad spot.

    Men are so worried about being politically correct and towing the feminist lines that they kowtow to be seen as "tolerant" and whatever the other PC terms of the day are.

    This country is gone. Men cower in fear and live like indentured servants to the family courts and to simple statistics such as this. No wonder women are starting to see men as nothing more than the aforementioned items I indicated. If men no longer have balls, why should females care?
  • username484767, on 05/26/2008, -0/+1lol
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