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video.google.com — Noam Chomsky tells how bin Laden is "winning" and how America is destroying democracy around the world. Watch it, and face the truth.

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  • thisisfunah, on 10/12/2007, -98/+15merica = evllllllllllllllllll
    • nazuraki, on 10/12/2007, -57/+47Nice to see you've so expertly managed to distill Chomsky's complex socio-political analysis into a convenient little nugget of insight.

      No need to watch the video, guys. He's got it.
    • theworldisround, on 10/12/2007, -19/+46I think you meant:
      America's Government = evilllllll
    • friend18, on 10/12/2007, -23/+2You forgot about Polend.
    • quetranza, on 10/12/2007, -50/+17How does this crap get to the front page? If you rely on Noam Chomsky for your "explanations" of things, you are a sad *****. This stuff is killing Digg.
    • CandidateZero, on 10/12/2007, -10/+30That's the stuff, Guetranza! Personally attack those who find his analysis valid. Awesome. And don't you dare try to address his arguments, then you might actually have to consider them.

      As for how this got to the front page, I think it's a result of Digg users digging the submission.
    • laddie, on 10/12/2007, -17/+4i wish he was a charismatic speaker... cause he is boring as all SH*T!!!! that's right all in capitals. you can have the greatest things to say in the world but if nobody is awake to hear them, what good are you?
    • SmokedL, on 10/12/2007, -5/+17"i wish he was a charismatic speaker... cause he is boring as all SH*T!!!! that's right all in capitals. you can have the greatest things to say in the world but if nobody is awake to hear them, what good are you?"

      Those that actually listen to the facts and arguments he brings up considers him anything but boring. If someone has, quoting you, "the greatest things to say in the world" and you have a hard time staying awake, then perhaps you have been watching to much MTV, or their sister channels: FOX and CNN?

      Politics should not be about fact devoid ad hominems, intentional misleading of the public, grandstanding, and theater. With Chomsky it isn't, it's about facts 99% of the time. I for one appreciate that very much.
    • pmr12002, on 10/12/2007, -20/+3Chomsky is a propagandist pure and simply. No way this could be could considered an education video. It is more along the lines of political opinion. Dugg Down Wrong Topic.
    • dagonweb, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7I will give you my personal guarantee that this depiction of reality by Noam Chomsky is precisely characterizing the sentiments of nearly every person I know in the netherlands.

      However certain right-wing elements in the US will continue denying the disastrous qualities of US policies because they still hope to win by supporting the idea of the US as the sole remaining hyperpower.
  • Irimi, on 10/12/2007, -125/+30So what? There are probably a lot of people with a lot more earthly experience and wisdom than him who would say the opposite. There are probably a lot of people with more earthly wisdom and experience than those people who would contradict those people. Then there are probably a few with even more wisdom and experience who would say the exact opposite, and so on and so forth.

    His opinion matters only so much as people let it matter.

    I want us to win and succeed in a Iraq, so I don't let it matter much. Give us a better alternative besides giving up and I might listen. We just have to win in Iraq though. There is no other option, and by win I mean that Iraq becomes a stable and secure democracy where terrorism and hysteria are not considered socially acceptable.
    • nazuraki, on 10/12/2007, -37/+31Please, name a single person with more wisdom than Noam Chomsky when it comes to international policy.
    • iggee85, on 10/12/2007, -11/+45Digg him down, he's just posting the same thing in other posts.
      http://digg.com/world_news/Victory_in_Iraq_impossible_says_Kissinger
    • sockpuppets, on 10/12/2007, -12/+43Those of you digging up Irimi should realize he just cut and pastes this same reply around.

      http://www.digg.com/world_news/Victory_in_Iraq_impossible_says_Kissinger

      Oops iggee85 beat me by an inch.

    • Xanadude, on 10/12/2007, -35/+13"Please, name a single person with more wisdom than Noam Chomsky when it comes to international policy." Oh, gosh, I don't know - someone who is actually a scholar in international policy, e.g. Niall Ferguson? Or even someone who has actually formed and conducted it? Remember, Chomsky is a linguist by training; in international policy, he is at best a layman activist.
    • merreborn, on 10/12/2007, -5/+24A valid argument is testable. It doesn't matter who makes the argument. Either its formulation is valid, and its premises true, or not.

      As such, the ad hominem is totally useless.
    • NakedSnake, on 10/12/2007, -16/+6Well said sir.
    • strabes, on 10/12/2007, -33/+3Who cares if he's posting the same thing; he's right. It only takes a few words to defeat leftist arguments. It's pretty easy to argue when you're right.
    • Dregga, on 10/12/2007, -10/+12"I want us to win and succeed in a Iraq, so I don't let it matter much."

      Everyone wants us to win, fool!
    • Dregga, on 10/12/2007, -3/+29"It's pretty easy to argue when you're right."

      It's even easier to lie and just pretend you are right.
    • dopyoman, on 10/12/2007, -6/+22Join the Army and show your support.

      I for one don't think there will be any benifit for the American people even if we win. The only people who would benift from this war are defense contractors.
    • DaveV, on 10/12/2007, -11/+6@nazuraki:
      Kissinger
    • sievo, on 10/12/2007, -9/+4"Iraq becomes a stable and secure democracy where terrorism and hysteria are not considered socially acceptable. "

      How can a country that accepts terror and hysteria ever hope to accomplish this?
    • nazuraki, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15@DaveV

      Ah, yes, Kissinger- who pulled the strings for the overthrow of Allende in Chile, seating Pinochet. How could I overlook him?

      Kissinger has the most experience, certainly not the most wisdom
    • h2gofast, on 10/12/2007, -12/+3Please, name a single person with more wisdom than Noam Chomsky when it comes to international policy.
      Ah, yes, Kissinger- who pulled the strings for the overthrow of Allende in Chile, seating Pinochet. How could I overlook him?


      Henry Kissinger got it done didn't he.
  • zelig, on 10/12/2007, -26/+2Kissinger?
  • drunkjack, on 10/12/2007, -57/+27Isn't it neat how a LINGUISTICS professor can talk people into believing what he says?

    It's really neat. Sometimes, late at night I ponder this and I think "What if he's doing some 50 year study of the gullibility of American College Students? And all of his speeches are experiments in making them hate everything they have? That would be neat!"

    It's neat how a guy who has studied how words are used can use words so well. You'd think he'd studied how words were used...uh, well, you get it.

    Neat.
    • david76, on 10/12/2007, -14/+49I'm guessing you've never read anything by Chomsky. It's okay, I understand, he uses big words.
    • zelig, on 10/12/2007, -47/+25He speaks directly to the "disenfranchised" college student, who believes in socialism because his professor told him to. Parents are still footing the bill, so he/she has little in the way of actual life experience or responsibility. Digg me down, I don't care.
    • sunra, on 10/12/2007, -6/+32If he were a professor of rhetoric, you'd have an argument. Not a very good one, but it would make sense. But linguistics studies what a language is, not how to use it effectively.
    • parker, on 10/12/2007, -3/+14drunkjack

      i like your usage of the classic ad hominem argument. when i don't know enough about the issues i totally just try to discredit those who disagree. it's a very effective strategy.

      via wikipedia:
      A (fallacious) ad hominem argument has the basic form:

      1. A makes claim X.
      2. There is something objectionable about A.
      3. Therefore claim X is false.
    • zeiben, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11Yeah, in fact, the military is getting good intel by using transformational grammar on detainees. All thanks to Chomsky
    • DaveV, on 10/12/2007, -21/+6Meh. He has spent the last what, 20 years?, working for a department of MIT that is solely funded by the Pentagon. He has made enough money doing it to buy a couple of million dollar homes.

      He is nothing but a hypocritical whore to the institutions he says he is against.
    • dime, on 10/12/2007, -3/+17You know what I find neat? ***** that are so intellectually ill-equipped to debate a position that they resort to mounting half assed personal attacks on the person making it.

    • macmcrae, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10Damn DrunkJack that would be pretty cool wouldn't it? Except you would have to disregard the obvious fact that the stuff he pushes in his lectures and debates is blisteringly true.
    • greenreefer, on 10/12/2007, -22/+4 You young ones with some questions, be aware.

      Chomsky thrives on abusing the children who look up to him, who think of him as educated and wise. There is no more certain way to become morbidly depressed, my young friends, than to take a trip though that bitter old man's mind. Feel the hatred seething from between every word,
      live with him,the all encompassing despair .

      Chomsky's questions,always in criticism and doubt, cast the rest of humanity as manipulative and evil, always plotting against you. There is no God, you are a tool of powers beyond your helpless pathetic means,you are a dancing fool to be used,living a pointless life, merely waiting to die.

      The questions, this life of endless questioning, yield more questions, more doubt, endlessly .

      Finally for him there is nothing, words themselves without meaning.
      Perhaps there is eternal meaning in the letter combinations, or the sounds?


      Life itself without meaning, you an I are tools. There is no good fight, life is a black void, a hopeless joke, on us.

      It is a very dark place, he invites you to wallow with him in his misery, as he waits to die without a fight, to be eaten by worms, to dust. Without you to follow, he has nothing, he is nothing. He gives nothing but despair for your efforts. Then curses your stupidity. And laughs.
      Feel as tortured as him? No, not yet.

      For him, only dust awaits.
      The eternal fool,Finally, and Gratefully, Gone.
      To curse the world no more.

      The path is available for you, if you wish.

      Choose carefully.






    • mstnpb, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12@greenreefer:

      jesus christ... how ***** stoned ARE you?
    • grazie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Why is it that just because someone is speaking outside of their perceived "field" then they automatically have no credibility whatsoever? I'd listen to a crack addict speak on foreign affairs if what they had to say held water. Don't get caught up in the stupid academic game of judging words by where they come from.
  • heavensblade23, on 10/12/2007, -41/+30I've been ignoring everything Chomsky says since I learned he defended the Khmer Rouge in the 70s.
  • NakedSnake, on 10/12/2007, -31/+17It seems like this Noam Chomsky is apparently an expert in everything. I had no idea he had so many degrees.
    • sockpuppets, on 10/12/2007, -32/+21Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
    • NakedSnake, on 10/12/2007, -20/+5And that has exactly what to do with anything?
  • hiscity, on 10/12/2007, -37/+19This is the guy that Hugo Chavez quotes.

    If Chavez likes him, then it's got to be warped.

    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=chavez+chomsky+prout
    • kremvax, on 10/12/2007, -12/+2Chavez, who mistakenly believed that Chomsky was dead, and said only wished he could have met him one day....
    • William01, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12He was mistranslated. He said that he wished he had met economist John Kenneth Galbraith (who had recently passed) before his death.

      The American media gleefully jumped all over the mistranslation, of course, eager to make Chavez look like an idiot.
    • macmcrae, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Yeah the funny part about that chavez plug is that Noam doesn't believe that Bush was behind 911.
  • igibson, on 10/12/2007, -5/+14it should be see both sides of the arguement, not face the truth - polarizing political issues leads to a divided america
    • alirio, on 10/12/2007, -12/+2I have a shovel, if anyone needs help getting all that sand to cover their heads...
  • Rudigity, on 10/12/2007, -15/+3eh, too long to watch, my attention span is that of a gnat. seemed like it would be interesting though
  • diehard2k5, on 10/12/2007, -27/+19This old hack again?
  • anamanaman, on 10/12/2007, -22/+7Some more words of wisdom by a diabolical psychopath. Heed his advice and prosper.
  • WackyT, on 10/12/2007, -46/+15So the socialist left is connecting Iraq and Bin Laden?

    FLIP
    FLOP
    FLIP
    FLOP

    Political opinion from a linguist on the front page of digg.
    Good job Kevin.
    • ulyssesyt, on 10/12/2007, -7/+23not the sharpest tool in the box, are you?
    • zelig, on 10/12/2007, -13/+3pithy.
    • alirio, on 10/12/2007, -7/+16Linguistics is the study of language AND how it affects us...

      You show your ignorance when you judge a linguist unqualified to speak on politics.

      Politics is all about language.

      Is American foreign policy "Spreading democracy" or is it achieving hegemony?

      The words people choose to use can tell you a lot about what they actually mean, and, more importantly, what they don't want you to think they mean.
  • RushLimbaugh, on 10/12/2007, -22/+7Ha Ha Ha!! Great comedy!!!
    • djimmy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12I'm digging you up because that's exactly what Rush would say. Niiiice.
  • Phssthpok, on 10/12/2007, -5/+26[[This is the guy that Hugo Chavez quotes.
    If Chavez likes him, then it's got to be warped.]]

    Well if you said Chomsky quotes Chavez you might have swayed me. So what if Chavez quotes him.

    I'll tell you what.... I'll watch the video and think for myself

    and you can go scratch.
  • thefutureisours, on 10/12/2007, -28/+9I'd rather listen to Ann Coulter than this communist.
  • whodatis, on 10/12/2007, -10/+17Brilliant speech, he may be a MIT linguistics professor, but he does have an interesting and researched background in politics....
  • Buelldozer, on 10/12/2007, -28/+12Chomsky can suck it and so can anyone who buys into his "America is EEEVVVVILLLL" spiel.
    • dvfreelancer, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10Evil is as evil does as Forrest Gump might say. If we start vindicating everything we do simply because we're America (f'in' aye!) then we're never likely to own up to our mistakes.

      Of course, admitting mistakes does seem SO last week, doesn't it?
    • DaveV, on 10/12/2007, -13/+5@dvfreelancer:

      Chomsky says the U.S. in general and the U.S. Military in particular are evil. He knowingly works for a department of MIT that is solely funded by the Pentagon.

      Doesn't that make Chomsky evil?
    • kremvax, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15You remember back when we used to condemn torture, and those who used it?


      We used to be America... They should probably come up with a new name for what the last six years have turned us into...
  • monticello, on 10/12/2007, -29/+6I've seen Noam Chomsky left speechless by an 18 year old.
    • deanlowe, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11Do you have a link. I'd like to see your proof.
  • rotten777, on 10/12/2007, -7/+11Face the truth? How about one point of view?

    Being cocky with the description is not the way to get your point across. Regardless of whether or not I believe him, "face the truth" is uncalled for.
  • theworldisround, on 10/12/2007, -14/+12Noam Chomsky is the Chuck Norris of knowledge.
    • 3DPeruna, on 10/12/2007, -21/+10Noam Chomsky gets roundhouse kicked by actual knowledge on a regular basis.
    • Durendal, on 10/12/2007, -19/+10"Noam Chomsky is the Chuck Norris of knowledge."

      If by that you mean "a washed-up has been with no actual skill," then yes, you are right.
    • rwvalentine, on 10/12/2007, -12/+3Ya, Noam Chomsky is like the Nebraska of knowledge!
    • WackyT, on 10/12/2007, -13/+8Noam Chomsky is the Chuck Norris of appeasers.
      http://www.newcriterion.com/archive/21/may03/chomsky.htm
    • tnsimonson, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4Hey, quit knocking Nebraska. You probably didn't know that the 'N' on our football helmets stands for "Nowledge."
  • KingMoses, on 10/12/2007, -28/+13I took politics off my Digg homepage because I don't need to be subjected to this hard-left Noam Trotsky crap.
    Quit trying to sneak your ***** politics past my filter by submitting it under a different topic. It's petty and disingenuous.
    • CrashKC, on 08/25/2008, -16/+6Thank you, I was thinking the same thing.
    • kremvax, on 10/12/2007, -4/+16Yeah, you made me comment on a post I didn't even want to read in the first place.

      But my lack of opposable thumbs prevents me from skipping stories that don't interest me and compels me to whine like a little girl.

      Boooohooo hoo hoohooooo......
    • macmcrae, on 10/12/2007, -5/+10Anybody who thinks Chomsky is from the left knows absolutely nothing about him at all. The funniest thing in the world was when he was invited to plug one of his books on an air america show hosted by Garofalo. Turns out he supported none of her crackpot leftwing tirades and ended up leaving early when she started asking really stupid questions.
    • KingMoses, on 10/12/2007, -5/+6Well left or right, stupid's stupid and Garofalo is stupid. Chomsky's left but he's intelligent; he knows stupid even when it's left. I don't blame him for not buying into her crap, but you'd be mistaken to believe that just proves how centrist he is.
  • historybuff, on 10/12/2007, -26/+12He, and his apologists are soooo predictable. The same tired lines every time. "The American Government is stupid, the American people are stupid, the world hates us, listen to me and I'll set you free" ........... I'm so sick of it I could puke.
    • macmcrae, on 10/12/2007, -7/+7Damn you summed it up pretty well. All true points. Like cliff's notes.
  • sensia3, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4"watch it and face the truth"
    aren't we facing the truth for the last 4 years?
    • kremvax, on 10/12/2007, -3/+23I think this whole "truth" thing is pretty new to the Rebublicans. They'll get the hang of it eventually. It hurts at first....
  • rwvalentine, on 10/12/2007, -22/+6I've noticed when libs on digg don't like a conservative story they digg it down with inaccurate. I did that to this crappy video of him talking to that psuedo intellect (boulder?) crowd.
    • otheruser, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14Kinda of like what the conservative media does, right?
    • Dregga, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12Maybe because conservatives are full of ***** and everyone knows it?
  • MrESaulved, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12None of you posters have commented on the salient point that this was taped on April 5th, 2003. Which is a lenghty amount of time for spoken observations to have been confirmed and or refuted.

    Strange, it's almost as if many of you are posting your opinions of the speech without actually listening to it...unpossible!
    • RushLimbaugh, on 10/12/2007, -12/+0Unpossible? Help me with this one...I couldn't find it in the dictionary.....:)
    • chuycobo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Go Simpsons!
  • brusty, on 10/12/2007, -5/+25Sad how many people comment that have never read anything by the man, seen him speak, or know little of actual (read: not changed by America) history.

    Keep eating what's being shovelled, Chomsky haters, and continue being part of the problem.
    • rwvalentine, on 10/12/2007, -18/+11We're not haters. Just disagree. Socialism bad. Supply side economics good.
    • DaveV, on 10/12/2007, -15/+7Is it ok to hate him for getting rich by working for the U.S. government, via a department at MIT soley funded by the Pentagon, and using the money to buy two large homes which together are worth more that US$2 Million?

      Basically, is it ok to hate him for being a hypocrite?
    • KingMoses, on 10/12/2007, -6/+9I like Penn Jillette's line on hypocrisy; "I usually don't like exposing hypocrites because if somebody says one thing and does the opposite, I figure I agree with him on at least one of his positions."
    • sievo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14Did you see the post above re: ad hominem fallacies?!

      Just because a hipocrite said it doesn't automatically refute an argument.
    • DaveV, on 10/12/2007, -10/+1How bad can it really be if he is willing to support it?

      If it really is that bad, why doesn't he quit?

      In the end, it boils down to either it is not as bad as he says and he is lying about it, or it is as bad as he says, and he is supporting it, making him as bad as what he decries.

      Either way, his argument loses strength.

      If you want to talk logic, how is this: The Pentagon is evil. One can not trust evil. All who work to support an evil organization must be evil. Chomsky works for the Pentagon. Therefore, Chomsky is evil and one can not trust him. QED.
    • SmokedL, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8"We're not haters. Just disagree. Socialism bad. Supply side economics good."

      I'm sorry, could you point out the part where he took any stance of any sort for any economic system in this talk? No? Then what kind of argument against what he says here is that?
  • CrashKC, on 08/25/2008, -21/+9***** Noam Chomsky.

    How's that for salient?
  • DaveV, on 10/12/2007, -19/+10Noam Chomsky is a lying hypocrite. For at least 20 years, he has worked and continues to work for, an MIT department that is solely funded by the U.S. Military. He has gotten rich off of helping the very institutions he critizes.

    If he truly means what he says and has courage of his convictions, he would not work for the U.S. government and would return all the money he has earned from the government. But that would mean he would have to sell his 2 houses, worth a total of over US$ 2 Million.

    For a government-hating anti-capitalist, he sure has made a bundle helping the U.S. government.
    • Jack9, on 10/12/2007, -3/+16I appreciate the need for you to repeat the same thing over and over again. I can answer.

      It would seem that you could only _assess_ Chompsky's views if he was born and lived in an environment you approve of. Expecting someone to gain wisdom without experience, regardless of those experiences, is akin to an aboriginal denouncing Western Civilization as hypocriticial because Western Civilization recognizes all Gods and does not force people to also worship the _proper_ Gods. This outlook is neither helpful in understanding the nature of US policy, nor is it a logical approach to evidence against his logical arguments.

      You are a hypocrite in some ways, being no less perfect than anyone else.
    • DaveV, on 10/12/2007, -15/+2He went to work for MIT in a department he knew was funded solely by the Pentagon. He did this after he started his diatribes against the U.S. government.

      If he truly had the courage of his convictions, he would, at the very least, quit. But, he doesn't. He continues to assist those he condems. He continues to support the very organizations he decries.

      That makes him a hypocrite and then begs the question "If he works for the U.S. government, how bad can it really by?"
    • Jack9, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Give it up Dave and go back to the High School kiddie pool. You haven't started to make valid arguments.
  • venicerocco, on 10/12/2007, -12/+16Chomsky bashers basically don't have the mental capacity to understand him, nor the inclination to take the time to absorb his complex observations. That's OK though, most people are dumb - it's just the way of the world.
    • DaveV, on 10/12/2007, -18/+5I understand that he knowingly works for a department in MIT that is solely funded by the Pentagon.

      Doesn't that make him a hypocrite? Or does it make him a whore? After all, he is selling himself to an institution he dislikes for money.
    • RpgActioN, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10Ah, the old "believe what I say or you're stupid!" argument. Never fails, that one.
    • kremvax, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7So which parts of his discussion linked above do you specifically disagree with, and why?
      Or are you just intellectually lazy, and unable to, you know, form a thesis based on your acceptance or rejection of the material presented and form a logical arguement?

      Your brain is weak... and all I hear coming out of it is whine---whine---whine...
    • venicerocco, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4lol "your brain is weak"

      So *that* explains it!


  • chilaw2004, on 10/12/2007, -11/+9RWValentine,
    You are quite correct: Digg (thanks to the herd-mentality digging and burying you mention) has become very hostile to any point of view that deviates one iota from an ultra-left Daily Kos point of view.

    If you doubt it, watch how quickly I accumulate negative diggs and flames in response to this post.
    • rwvalentine, on 10/12/2007, -9/+2digg has become a voting machine
      of course conservatives lose here
      would be nice if digg could sort by lowest score first
      then cons could digg down, libs up
    • jwkane, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5Given the relevance of your post to the article we are supposed to be digging you down.

      The conservative POV does not get very much airtime on digg.com. If this article is to be taken as an example the only "conservative" arguments are irrelevant attacks.

      If you expect to be taken seriously you have to present a position that can withstand serious scrutiny.
    • rwvalentine, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2oh please. digg serious? for nintendo players maybe.
  • Nyghtewynd, on 10/12/2007, -16/+6Dugg down for anything Chomsky says being classified as "educational". "Nut-job Euro hero", maybe, but not educational.
  • grapfx, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9"I want us to win and succeed in a Iraq, so I don't let it matter much"

    Ring, Ring...the recruiter's calling. WTF, why won't you answer the phone.

  • tito13kfm, on 10/12/2007, -8/+3Completely off topic here...
    Last night I actually dreamed I was checking digg (I know, I'm a dork) and there was a cool option where not only did it show the number of diggs on a comment, it showed you how many were + and how many were -, then you could click on it to see who dugg up or down a comment so you could find like minded people to add as friends.
    • Xanadude, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Ah, yes... the dream known as "Slashdot."
  • h00ligan, on 10/12/2007, -12/+7good thing we can rely on a professor of linguistics to explain everything political.

    Don't get me wrong, he's a sharp guy, but.. and here come the digg downs, he's out of his element in politics... maybe if he knew more about economics or you know.. the free market.

    Nyghtewynd is somewhat right if a little abrasive, he's being made into a folk hero by the left.. he's not a genius of that kind, sorry - and yes, he's a massive hypocrite getting rich off capitalism while pushing ideas of socialism.
    • Jack9, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2What do free markets have to do with our political system? Oh yeah, it influences our leader's policies and has dictated their individual actions, regardless of the extranneous consequences like destabilizing the rest of the US economy, our economic partnerships, and the region we've inadvertently exploited for Presidential benefit. I think he's got a grip, when market forces neatly explain the results as he predicted. (2003 remember)
  • zacmccormick, on 10/12/2007, -14/+3Marked lame for Chomsky communist ***** being posted in the educational section. "Face the truth" in the description is a sure fire sign of an arrogant appeaser trying to make his retarded argument sound semi believable by making the reader seem stupid for not aligning with it. That kind of crap is definitely not educational, and the poster was obviously aware of the fact that anything about Noam Chomsky isn't educational, it's political opinion, so what we are dealing with is what I like to call a lamer.
  • nickbender, on 10/12/2007, -4/+0Techbowie.com
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    www.techbowie.com
  • fsboreal, on 10/12/2007, -13/+3The ossified mind of the lefty. A constant source of entertainment.
  • doctechnical, on 10/12/2007, -8/+10Just a data point for the Chomsky defenders: He once said Clinton was worse than the 9/11 terrorists. Thus quoth the Noam:

    "The terrorist attacks were major atrocities. In scale they may not reach the level of many others, for example, Clinton’s bombing of the Sudan with no credible pretext, destroying half its pharmaceutical supplies and killing unknown numbers of people."

    If I gave a single descicated turdlet what Chomsky thought about anything I'd tie a blue ribbon around it and Fed-Ex it to him.

    • SmokedL, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9@doctechnical
      You quote Chomsky as saying this:

      "The terrorist attacks were major atrocities. In scale they may not reach the level of many others, for example, Clinton’s bombing of the Sudan with no credible pretext, destroying half its pharmaceutical supplies and killing unknown numbers of people."

      You also twist his word to give them a meaning I very much doubt he intended. However, let's stick to just this statement. You attack him for saying that, without supplying any backing what so ever for that being an invalid position to to take. Care to tell us why you disagree?
    • doctechnical, on 10/12/2007, -2/+31) I did not "twist his words" in any way, they stand as he stated them.
      2) I did not attack him, I stated that I don't care what he thinks. His opinion is beneath my cognative noise floor.
      3) IF you can't tell this difference between an act of terrorism meant to maximize death and destruction, baed on religious ferver, and the military act of a sovereign nation designed to minimize human casualties, we have no common denominator for discussion.
  • illiki23, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1anyone know where we can find a transcript?
    He sure knows how to pace himself, drives me crazy, I just want to get to the point.
    • vuke69, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6I'd be happy for a version without all the stumbling non-words and pauses. You could probably cut it down to five minutes easy.

      For a um being an um er a linguist, he a well sure... um a is a um crappy er... uh um a speaker.

      Painfull to listen to.
    • dmoc, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7If you have a hard time listening to him you can always read one of his many books. http://www.chomsky.info/books.htm
    • vuke69, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3He gets a little better a bit farther into the video, but still has some bumbling moments. I know I'll get dug down (way down) for this, but he sounds like Bush when he speaks.

      I may have to check out of one of his books though. I don't agree with the vast majority of what he says, but it still has some "nuggets" of insight. Enough for me to give it at least one listen/read.
    • mustafya, on 10/12/2007, -11/+3Ok... so Bush is an idiot because he is a poor public speaker (or at least that is what Jon Stewart and Keith Olberman tell me so it must be true).

      But Chomsky is a brilliant man... and speaks even poorly than the president does.

    • SmokedL, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8Bush is not considered an idiot for sometimes pausing to find the right words. He's considered an idiot for very often being unable to make sense when he talks. Chomsky most definitely does not have that problem. Being a great orator, and making sense is two quite different things. Chomsky excels at the latter. Bush most definitely does not.
  • gr4v3d1gg3r, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Why is google video so damn slow?It hasn't been this slow since I switched from dialup.
  • MyDigitalSin, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6he spoke at binghamton university this past year...
    he's a pretty poor speaker. I was really interested in what he had to say, but he had poor articulation, he mumbled a lot... I fell asleep during his speech.
  • rmmcclay, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13It might be easier to just dismiss Chomsky than to actually listen to what he has to say.
  • Jack9, on 10/12/2007, -5/+6Troll my post Dave, troll it now!
    • DaveV, on 10/12/2007, -9/+2It's not trolling to point out that chomsky doesn't even believe his own premise.
    • Jack9, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Good job trying to convince people how someone's views should be ignored because you think they lived an unpure life. Any rational person would think you're completely insane, given your lack of reasoning. Keep it up!
  • rholloway, on 10/12/2007, -10/+1"face the truth"

    LOL!!
  • CoolWind, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7The US isn't destroying Democracy, it is destroying itself because it doesn't work. The US just happens to be an excellent example of a dysfunctional Democracy. And of course Iraq is a shining example of a country where Democracy has no chance of even taking hold.
    Let's face it, whatever the problem is, Democracy is not the answer.
    • Jack9, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9Rule by the ignorant masses? That was swept away long ago in favor of rule by the corrupt, incompetent, few.
    • MeanYogurt, on 10/12/2007, -5/+5Thank goodness the US isn't a democracy, its a representative republic
    • Wartyboskfapped, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I thought it was an autonomous collective!
    • Jack9, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Help! Help! I'm being oppressed. OH NOW we see the violence inherent in the SYSTEM!
  • drewlander, on 10/12/2007, -10/+4OMG DEFENSE CONTRACTORS!!!!!! !!0101
    DIG ME DOWN OMG!!
    I hate digg now. For open minded people, you seem to love to present one side of the story, and when someone has a different viewpoint than you, you digg them down and namecall.
    Way to go children, one day you will grow up and have to defend what you really believe, not what you heard or saw somewhere without ever researching if what they are saying is really true.
    Why was this not submitted under politics? Learn to post n00b
    • vuke69, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8Tell me about it... I'm an atheist libertarian that doesn't use a Mac or Ubuntu, so I was ***** before the front page even finished loading.
    • migbike, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3"I hate digg now. For open minded people, you seem to love to present one side of the story, and when someone has a different viewpoint than you, you digg them down and *namecall.*
      Way to go *children*, one day you will grow up and have to defend what you really believe, not what you heard or saw somewhere without ever researching if what they are saying is really true. "

      one sentance after another...
  • redDragon43, on 10/12/2007, -9/+6@Chomsky2008
    Chomsky is a vociferous belligerent obnoxious left-wing *****. Just like the average nonthinking *****-for-brains Diggocrat. They all would like nothing more than to hand the keys of the nation over to Bin Laden.

    Really, I never knew ***** could be so intellectual, I wonder what that makes you. When did he say he wants to hand over the keys of the nation to Bin Laden? I never heard those words come out, and man hehe those must be some damn big keys.
  • thcobbs, on 10/12/2007, -10/+6The video is not worth commenting on since any dissent will be quickly buried.
  • bargash, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9I'm finding it unsettling/unfortunate that many of the people, on both sides of the political spectrum here are regarding the opinions of anyone who disagrees with them as being less than intelligent - Noam Chomsky may not be right, in your opinion, but he is a very intelligent man... if I remember correctly, he's the most quoted intellectual in the world today (this is not to say that the people who quote him are necessarily bright). Henry Kissinger, say what you will, is not an unintelligent man. Christopher Hitchens drives me up the wall, but he's definitely intelligent - I don't agree with any of them... this does not make them stupid. Wrong? Maybe. Stupid? Not in the slightest.
  • metafore, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6whether you agree or disagree, you should give it a listen (or at least get the cliff's notes) and get edumacated.

    dugg
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