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Why Women Should Embrace Porn

divinecaroline.com — Just because someone likes looking at naked bodies exchanging bodily fluids does not make him a pervert, disrespectful, an infidel, disinterested in his lover or dissatisfied with his lover. It makes him human.

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  • GenghisKahana, on 06/29/2008, -15/+167This is the most logical look at porn I've seen in a long time.
    • sanman, on 06/30/2008, -28/+1could convince her to go for implants or surgery
      • zeabu, on 06/30/2008, -4/+24A woman without surgery is so many times more beatiful than someone who's operated.
        Ignoring personalities, ***** with a girl that has plastic boobs, silicon ass, lipo, facelift.. I don't see any difference between that and a plastic sex doll. In fact, girls that do surgery are not happy with theirselves, and will never be. They're extremely insecure, and that an sich, makes a girl ugly.
      • ayeroxor, on 06/30/2008, -2/+4Sorry, but the above is a grand generalization, and therefore false on its face. Please stop confusing your personal tastes with "fact". While I agree that there is some awful plastic surgery, imagine, for example, a woman having been burned by fire gets plastic surgery to look as she did pre-fire. Is she now less beautiful because she's "operated" even though she now looks as though she used to? Now imagine a woman who naturally had burned-looking skin since birth, and she gets plastic surgery and now her skin looks more like yours and mine. Is she less beautiful? Okay, now lets progress to a woman who has absolutely no breasts due to genetics. She gets reasonable implants and now has average B/C-cup breasts. Is she less beautiful?

        This is why the intelligent debater will avoid a grand generalization.
      • Modulo, on 07/09/2008, -0/+1Well, if you see one, feel free to send him by, if you aren't too busy disingenuously inferring things that other people are obviously not saying.
    • Nitesmoke, on 06/30/2008, -2/+47The thing I don't understand about women is why they think men are pigs and perverts if we watch porn or masturbate, but correct me if I'm wrong, every woman I know owns a personal masturbation device (vibrator) that she keeps in her panty drawer, I don't own a device, and if any girl thought I did, she would assume I'm a weirdo. Imagine if your girlfriend found your pocket pussy, she would freak out, even though she has a "butterfly" under her mattress.
      • DearSergio, on 06/30/2008, -9/+1Haha! Sorry, that's all I got.

        "Why Women Should Embrace Porn" ; CLICK!
      • TaylorTAP, on 06/30/2008, -1/+8Does your pussy troll protect your pocket pussy?
      • dougmc, on 06/30/2008, -1/+3Personally, I was happier before I considered that maybe grandma had such a device ...

        Though I suspect they're not as common as you suggest. Or maybe the women you know are not ... representative of women as a whole.
      • Pissoff, on 06/30/2008, -6/+1Everyone woman you have been with has a device so you assume everyone woman does, instead of thinking maybe you should get some ExtenZe.

        Just joking, there are no pills that can help you.

      • Nitesmoke, on 06/30/2008, -1/+3@Pisoff, I'm not saying EVERY WOMAN EVER has had a vibrator, I'm simply saying alot of them do and I find it interesting, how there is no stigma attached to it. Women always complain that women are treated unfairly sexually, i.e. "If a man has sex with a lot of women, he's 'cool', but if a woman does it shes a 'slut'." Women are always talking crap about how horny/perverted/focused only on sex men are, yet there is no shame for a woman to own and use a vibrator. But if a man were to be found to have a "fee-fee" he would immediately be mocked by the vibrator-owning woman. That's all I'm saying. And if you think its just the women I meet that own them, because I suck at sex, you aren't getting to know them well enough. If you go into any "sex toy shop" there will be about 20 different types of pocket pussies, while the rest of the store is jam-packed with every size and shape of dildo and vibrator. There must be a huge market for them.
      • mystcnurse, on 06/30/2008, -2/+4Um, news flash. It isn't only women who are using those dildos and vibrators. Just FYI.
    • fas2, on 06/30/2008, -1/+5But man does she ask a lot of questions!
    • screamthenrun, on 06/30/2008, -0/+14One aspect of the industry that the article failed to examine was on digg a while back:
      http://digg.com/people/My_Sister_s_Secret_Life_as_ ...
      • HouseCentipede, on 06/30/2008, -0/+9Thank you for the link, that's a fascinating and powerful story.
      • thetanman, on 06/30/2008, -0/+1Yeah, stick with the amateur, self-submitted stuff. Everything else is depressing if you dig very deep.
    • orangefly, on 06/30/2008, -0/+11if she feels threatened by porn just tell her that you aren't looking because you find them more attractive, it's just that if i ate steak everyday for a year a saltine cracker would look pretty damn good....
      • ericcire, on 06/30/2008, -1/+44Rule #1 of relationships: Analogies always backfire. Always.
      • seand, on 06/30/2008, -1/+4ericcire - I think the steak and saltine analogy is worth a shot. orangefly, give it a go and report back!
      • sv650touring, on 06/30/2008, -1/+12"If I ate steak every day for a year, having sex with your sister would look pretty damn good."
      • Pissoff, on 06/30/2008, -0/+1You can get a good look at a steak by sticking your head in, wait no, damnit.
    • Laminarcissus, on 06/30/2008, -1/+13Women embrace porn and have for a long time.

      What they haven't embraced is telling men that they've embraced porn because all the men at their office start asking what kind, getting little half-smiles, pulling their desk draws in and out a lot, leaving some on their desk, and basically acting like toddlers.

      • desuexmachina, on 06/30/2008, -0/+11Uhh, I am a guy but I don't think I have embraced telling my co-workers that I have embraced porn.

        What the crap, why would anybody man or woman tell their co-workers that?
    • mewho, on 06/30/2008, -1/+1http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/SavageLove?oid= ...
    • jobac, on 06/30/2008, -3/+9While some women are insecure about their sexuality, be mindful of legitimate reasons why many women are really disappointed with porn:
      ~ there's some pretty derogatory / misogynistic stuff out there (does youporn.com have any vids without a facial at the end?)
      ~ the ridiculously hyperbolic representation of women's pleasure in porn vids (it's so laughable, how could a woman be turned on by it?); must be for all the insecure guys out there.
      ~ the sad fact that some guys have no curiosity as to what really turns their woman on, often reinforced in porn
      ~ 95% of porn is made for men and ignores what women might be interested in
      • hiteshsharma, on 06/30/2008, -1/+4"95% of porn is made for men and ignores what women might be interested in"

        Thats because Porn is an Industry and serves its market 99.99% of which is males.
      • rearlgrant, on 06/30/2008, -0/+3Good points.

        My GF has brands of videos that she enjoys for just this reason.

        She can't stand the "pounding (loop) for 20 minutes" scene followed by 3 more.

        There are good brands that make fairly good stuff.
    • anstice85, on 06/30/2008, -1/+7I agree with the comment above mine. I'm a girl who doesn't watch porn a lot because most porn has no story, or a ***** one. The guys that I know watch porn where the people start banging immediately. I like a plotline, an emotional connection between two people, which is hard to discern in movies where a woman's face is being coated in man-gravy after three minutes of anal.
      • feignNU, on 06/30/2008, -1/+5Dugg for "man gravy".

        But seriously, your position is fine, because you aren't trying to say that porn is the devil, just that certain kinds of porn don't turn you on. If you were my girlfriend and you said to me what you just posted there, I'd be all for trying to find some porn we could enjoy together. At the same time, of course, I'd ask that you be respectful and tolerant of the things I watch on my own time while masturbating. Having a pr0n preference is totally acceptable, freaking out about it and refusing to have an open/rational discussion is the reaction I think this article was intended to argue against.
      • hiteshsharma, on 06/30/2008, -0/+2Its just that you haven't looked at all kinds of it.. You have to keep looking for your kinds stuff..
      • lisaawesome, on 06/30/2008, -1/+3anstice, I have found I rather enjoy erotic stories. They are far more stimulating if you're into plot lines and not interested in seeing some girl's face coated in man gravy. Sublimedirectory.com has a section for such stories. They aren't all winners but there are some gems in there.
      • Mercedes383, on 06/30/2008, -0/+1Sometimes, on the odd occasion I watch pr0n, I have to turn the sound down. I find the music and dialogue so ridiculously funny I get the uncontrollable giggles which kind of misses the point of it.
      • TheTrace, on 07/15/2008, -0/+0"I like a plotline, an emotional connection between two people, which is hard to discern in movies where a woman's face is being coated in man-gravy after three minutes of anal."

        I agree with you. Seven minutes anal minimum, or I begin to suspect the artistic talent of the director.
    • r3negadeX, on 08/11/2008, -0/+4This is the most logical look at porn I've seen since the last time it was posted on Digg.
      http://digg.com/health/What_s_So_Wrong_About_Porn
    • SoftErectionz, on 06/30/2008, -1/+0The camera and the sale of the movies is the only difference between porn & what we all do behind closed doors.
    • Nollykin, on 07/01/2008, -0/+3I feel this was a well-written article, however it won't do anything to help the cause the writer is attempting to champion: open-mindedness about porn. She doesn't provide enough evidence to suggest that the closed-minded way of thinking may not be the right one, doesn't go into enough detail about the reasons talking about things could be healthy.

      Though, I loved the article because to me, she illustrated the no. 1 point needed to be made in relationship advice: Communication between partners. No more Sex In The City style bitching to your friends about your lover. No more writing in to Dr Phil because you just can't bear to bring it up with your partner. Just get in there, and talk to them. If you CAN'T talk to them, then perhaps you need to figure out how. If it's still not working, and both of you still can't discuss things as adults- then perhaps you need to reconsider what's really going on.

      As she said- the problem isn't porn- it's the relationship. It needs to be discussed, people need to bring up their feelings and discuss them like adults.
    • passedoutghost, on 07/01/2008, -1/+0Exactly. How the hell is it cheating when I've got one hand one the mouse and the other on my dick? Pornstars aren't perfect either, just because sometimes we're horny and want to imagine banging a slut doesn't mean that we'll leave them.
    • Melun91, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1Not really. I'm pretty sure I saw this exact same article on digg a while back.
  • VipperOfVipp, on 06/29/2008, -24/+403"Some women think it’s cheating if their husband or boyfriend watches porn." Seriously. There's some major insecurity going on here.
    • glinsvad, on 06/30/2008, -26/+9They're women, get over it. The really tough question is whether to choose her or the porn...
    • sandiegodude, on 06/30/2008, -4/+113Yep, that's my ex-wife. She was psychotic about it, and would insist I was looking for porn wherever I could find it... 10 years of marriage, she was constantly snooping on my computers, she would toss any movies we had that even had a 1/2 second boob shot, magazines with scantily clad women weren't allowed (yes, this included lingerie ads from Victoria Secret)

      She was psychotic about other things too though, hence being an "ex." If I was 5 minutes late from work, I was a cheating, philandering bastard. If I got called into work when I was pulling on-call, she would call every 10 minutes or so to make sure I was actually there.

      Whats worse is retards like Dr. Phil (The irony of this fatass putting out a best selling diet book still makes me sigh) and the Oprah bandwagon validating her craziness. God forbid a good looking girl walked by me and I happened to look - It would cost me a week's worth of scorn from the ball and chain.

      So why did I put up with it for 10 years? Cuz I believed she was right for a long time, and it wasn't until the last few years when I was working a lot of hours for a new career field that I realized just how truly crazy she was.

      So yea, I'm single now, and you know what? I revel in the fact that I like porn, boobs and women. Any women I date now (including my current girlfriend) must accept this about me from the start or the relationship ends immediately. I'm not going through that ***** again.
      • NSResponder, on 06/30/2008, -1/+99"I believed she was right for a long time, "

        Sounds like she was highly skilled at attacking your self-esteem. That kind of person is poisonous. Congratulations on your escape.

        -jcr
      • doctorcaligari, on 06/30/2008, -0/+30Your comment gave me a cold shiver, as I almost married someone who acted exactly the same as your ex-wife. One thing I realized after it was over was that she was projecting her feelings onto me, which meant that she was the one flirting with other guys and cheating. If there is anyone reading this that constantly finds themselves in the situations as Sandiegodude or myself, just end the relationship. It will not get better. The pattern of abuse will not change, no matter how many promises are made. They are taking their insecurities out on you.
      • trdrstv, on 06/30/2008, -0/+18"One thing I realized after it was over was that she was projecting her feelings onto me"

        Yes, and those feelings aren't always "insecurity", sometimes it's plain old fashioned Guilt. If a significant other spontaneously goes rooting through your ***** and questioning who you're with and what you're doing... they are looking for an excuse to justify their own infidelity.

        If they do this consistently, then it's a toxic relationship. Flee and never look back.
      • mrswirl, on 06/30/2008, -1/+44I feel for ya brother..... my wife flips out about porn too.

        After 14 years I'm starting to seriously question whether I want to continue dealing with her overreactions and hyperbole. Her snooping on my email and computer is really the worst part. Having kids makes the situation a little more difficult.

        My wife also accuses me of having an affair. My response is always; "Why in the hell would I want 2 psychotic women in my life?"
      • sandiegodude, on 06/30/2008, -2/+16Well, I'd definitely say this. If a woman is anti-porn and she expects her spouse to not view it, she definitely has that right in a marriage, as respecting your partner's morals and beliefs (even if you don't always agree) is important. But snooping, scanning invading privacy and inventing issues where there is not.... No, that is not right. Your wife sounds a heckuva lot like my ex. It makes you feel like you're living with the enemy, and a marriage should NOT be this way.

        I'd say get some counseling. Not for the porn either, but for the lack of trust and respect in your relationship, as this is truly what the core issue is (sure was in mine!).
      • nosecohn, on 06/30/2008, -1/+5"If a woman is anti-porn and she expects her spouse to not view it, she definitely has that right in a marriage, as respecting your partner's morals and beliefs (even if you don't always agree) is important."

        Congrats on your escape, but it sounds like you haven't completely let go of all the wrong-headed thinking your ex poisoned you with.

        "Respecting your partner's beliefs" can be done by not subjecting her to the objectionable behavior. You don't have to watch porn (or cut your toenails, or pray to Allah) in front of her, but that doesn't mean you agree never to do it. You have to respect yourself too, which means telling her that you understand her position, but you're going to continue to act according to your desires in private, so long as it doesn't affect the relationship. Any woman who believes that getting you to adopt her beliefs is a prerequisite for a serious relationship is someone you don't want to be with. And there are enough of these women out there that any guy who accepts this premise is likely to end up with one.
      • npvm, on 06/30/2008, -1/+8For a minute there I thought I was about to be Bel-Air'd.
      • sandiegodude, on 06/30/2008, -0/+2"You have to respect yourself too, which means telling her that you understand her position, but you're going to continue to act according to your desires in private, so long as it doesn't affect the relationship. Any woman who believes that getting you to adopt her beliefs is a prerequisite for a serious relationship is someone you don't want to be with"

        Oh, I'm in agreement with you 100% of the time my friend. Like I said, I air my feelings and beliefs right from the start now. My naivete when I met and married my ex was not knowing her position on the matter right from the start. Not that it really was that big of a deal to me, and as our marriage progressed it became obvious she had deeper psychological problems which went far beyond her feelings about pornography...
      • IglooBurner, on 06/30/2008, -0/+3I've read this somewhere, I forgot the source, and I'm currently too lazy to look it up, so don't quote me on this too fast.
        If your partner tends to get overly jealous of your whereabouts and friends, chances are they're probably the ones cheating.
      • mrswirl, on 06/30/2008, -0/+4The problem with women who are very anti-porn is there is no distinction regarding amount or frequency - it's all very black and white. Either you have a 'porn problem' or you don't use it all. There's no such thing as a 'casual user' in their minds. Everyone who engages in it is an addict. Period.

        It's typically the same for things like cigarettes or alcohol too. One drink automatically means you're an alcoholic and one puff every now and then means you are a hopeless addict. One rub n' tug to a Playboy means you're a pervert - no grey area. There's no understanding about the degree of involvement.

        Its easy to say that it's not a problem until it starts affecting your relationships until you're with someone who can't appreciate the fact that occasional use is just that - occasional. It automatically affects your relationship the moment it is discovered.

        Such is the case with my wife - her freakout on the subject caused me to go underground with it. I try to respect her feelings and I certainly don't flaunt it or leave it laying around for the kids to see, etc. I am discrete about it and only use it occasionally when I'm horny and need a quick release - so to speak.

        Still, because she's caught me a couple of times and now actively looks for evidence all the time on my computer, she has convinced herself that I have a 'porn problem' that I refuse to deal with. She charges me with being deceitful and duplicitous in everything now and all my outside behaviors are viewed with suspicion regardless of how benign.

        What she doesn't understand is that it's her distrust and snooping that's killing our relationship and try as I might, she can't seem to get past it. We tried the counseling thing once but she insisted on a "Christian" counselor who was less than objective on the subject.
      • zer0nix, on 07/01/2008, -0/+0you and this woman have communication issues. if you love her, you owe it to her and yourself -and your kids- to work out this 'porn problem' with her; that means making sure both you and her are on the same page. right now, she's just completely distrusting of anything you have to say because in her mind, you are the deceitful one, not her being jealous when she has nothing to worry about. in other words, you NEED a third party to explain to her that her fears are unjustified. try to find a therapist who will take your side on this. unless you truly desire it, a lifetime of denial will only lead to resentment.
      • Plant11, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1I feel for some of these guys who have dealt with this sort of behavior from their wives, but the answer isn't always as simple as "end the relationship". There is potential for change in anyone. If talking to her doesn't work, then try a counselor or psychiatrist. Throwing away a relationship shouldn't be the first step. Be aware of your options. If this sort of behavior is rooted in an insecurity of hers, maybe that insecurity does need to be dealt with. Find ways address it and talk about that. Maybe she IS cheating, but maybe it's just another bump in the road in an otherwise healthy relationship.
    • cheeseplease, on 06/30/2008, -1/+4I think that's more the line of thought of an older generation though. Several of my girlfriends enjoyed watching porn with me even though they didn't on their own. The new generation is more open minded about porn - and basically everything else.
      • seand, on 06/30/2008, -0/+7The new generation?

        Dazed and Confused comes to mind :)

        Wooderson: That's what I love about these high school girls, man. I get older, they stay the same age.
      • HoratioHellpop, on 06/30/2008, -8/+1Which is why our culture is going to hell in a handbasket.
      • Y0tsuya, on 06/30/2008, -1/+1Everything else? Are you sure?
        What about anal, bukkake, DP, fisting, bestiality, scat, golden shower,... I could go on.
      • Larsonal777, on 06/30/2008, -11/+2I think the key there was several of your "girlfriends" they aren't your girlfriends anymore now are they. There is a difference between a sexpartner and a girlfriend that you can grow in a relationship with. Sexpartners will watch porn with you... a girlfriend, that is... one that wants a REAL relationship, will not.

      • cheeseplease, on 06/30/2008, -0/+2@larsonal777:

        Please send me a copy of your Official Girlfriend Rulebook.
      • Larsonal777, on 06/30/2008, -6/+1Sorry I only have the one copy ; ) and I need it! Plus its much to big and complicated to be sent through mail.

        But if you think your "girlfriend" is ok with porn you're seriously mistaken... also for one who has claimed to have had sex with 4 different girls in the last year I don't see how you can say that these girls either A) Wanted a serious relationship or B) Were ok with your sexual habits.

        I sure as hell wouldn't be looking for a long lasting relationship with a girl who had sex with 4 people in the last year so why the hell would you think a girl thinks any more liberally in this regard.

        In paragraph 19.5 of the Official Girlfriend Rulebook it says you must be with a girl longer than two weeks before you have sex with her and a month after for her to be considered a "girlfriend" and even then she is still in the catagory of "sexpartner/girlfriend"

        Also in paragraph 20.3 it states that you must not have been with another girl for more than a month before this encounter and no more than 3 months after.

        So that leaves room for only 2 and a half girlfriends a year... you are over the limit buddy... at least one of them was NOT a girlfriend.

        I don't even want to talk about chapter 65 where it talks about the different reasons a girl will allow you to watch porn. None of them include the she likes porn too and really likes that you are into only for the sake of hightened sexual encounters.
      • Linzee82, on 06/30/2008, -0/+7@larsonal777 - "Sexpartners will watch porn with you... a girlfriend, that is... one that wants a REAL relationship, will not."

        I'm a girl. I like to watch porn with my fiancee (yes, we're engaged so I think that counts as a real and long-lasting relationship). What do you have to say about me? (And don't tell me I'm an exception because I know many girls who are just like me.) Sounds like your "rulebook" needs to be updated.

        And we wonder why guys hide pornos from us...
      • PrintScrn12, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1@Larsonal777: It all greatly depends on how you view women (or men), sex and relationships. So your "Official Girlfriend Rulebook" not everyone's rulebook. It might not even be your own partner's rulebook.
      • Larsonal777, on 07/01/2008, -3/+1@linzee82... do you watch porn by yourself? Or do you think that watching porn with your future husband will stop him from watching it by himself?

        I bet you tell yourself that when he turns of the porn he doesn't think about those women when he has sex with you. One thing that I don't think you realize is that HE is addicted to porn... he will ALWAYs watch porn... especially now that you've made him think its ok and you don't care. I don't want to strain your relationship but i think it would be an interesting experiment for you both if you tried to have him give up the porn for a period of time. I find that wierd that you are OK with him thinkin about other women when you are together... I mean in the sexual way. I would not be comfortable with MY fiance thinking about some other guys sexually when WE are together.

        So either you are a woman who is lying to herself in some way... that is you think that if you share in this experience with him that he will be thinking of you instead of the other women. You want to make him happy and think that sharing in this experience will bring you closer to him. OR... you are one of those girls that I talked about earlier, though I seriously hope not for your fiances sake... because that would make you a manipulative bitch who has given into the fact he may never change but wants to know about all the porn so she can hold it against him... Next time you want something... "honey I let you watch porn with me"... bamb... there it is... if you EVER find yourself doing that... i want you to think of me and say outloud "I am a manipulative bitch" But of course... I don't know you and chances are more likely you're just lying to yourself in some way.

        Most guys hide pornos from you because you will either be girl A) the innocent girl who this information will only hurt or B) a manipulative bitch and what guy wants to find out his girl is one of those much less give her the fuel.
      • zer0nix, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1larsonal, you love the smell of your own farts don't you? you come off as excessively insecure in my eyes. good luck with your marriage (not sarcasm)!
      • cheeseplease, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1@larsonal:

        About these 4 girls (I see you went through my commenting history): only 1 of them was my girlfriend and we've been together for about half a year (starting in 2007). The other ones were sex partners, as you call it.

        Girls like sex as much as guys do and even though they are less turned on by mere graphical display of sex (i.e. porn), they are still turned on by it to some extent. So even though I don't think girls will ever love to watch porn as much as guys do, they can still like it, some even a whole lot.

        Also, just like guys typically say they've been with more girls than they actually have, girls tend to claim they've had less, but in the end I think they're about equal.

        You have a different and in my eyes somewhat more conservative view on sexuality than I have, and you seem to be trying to find reasons to judge porn as "bad". I personally don't see porn as a bad thing.
      • Linzee82, on 07/01/2008, -0/+3@ Larsonal777 - Nope. You're wrong on all accounts. (But thanks for giving me the benefit of the doubt and not thinking I'm a manipulative bitch.)

        I enjoy watching pornos with him. It's actually brought us closer together. At first, I hated the idea. I thought the same things you do about porno. But after spending some time watching it with him, I found out that I really enjoyed it. Sometimes it will give us new ideas. Sometimes it's just fun. I don't think that it will make him only think of me. Yes, he will look at other women. I'm not the only beautiful woman out there. That does not mean that he wants to have sex with them. (You just have to trust me on this one.) His ultimate test is where does he lay his head every night. The answer to that is right next to me. I'm the only one he comes home to and the only one he has sex with.

        You obviously have your own issues about porno and no one should force you to change your ideas. But that doesn't mean that just because someone is different than you they're "bad". You're trying to judge everyone based on how you think you would live your life.
    • CVL4317, on 06/30/2008, -9/+2when a woman is being unsecured by porn, she put herself as low as and as inexistent as porn..
    • spxiii, on 06/30/2008, -11/+4Most people are insecure when dealing with important things in their lives. I'd be more concerned if she didn't care what I did, because that means she really isn't interested.

      My advice is this: Don't try to find someone who will accept you for who you are. If you do, you'll be the same schmuck in 20 years that you are today. You see it everywhere...people just refuse to "change who they are" and they can't understand why life is so unfair and they've spent 15 years of their lives or more in failed relationships, trying to find the right person.

      Nobody's perfect. If you accept the flaws in others and work to improve yourself, what more could anyone ask? You'll be a better person and someone will truly love you for it. In the grand scheme of things, porn really isn't all that important.
      • minorthreat, on 06/30/2008, -1/+6wtf are you talking about? Is the only way to improve yourself marrying someone who will tell you how to be better? Improve your own damn self without no ones help.
      • trdrstv, on 06/30/2008, -0/+7"My advice is this: Don't try to find someone who will accept you for who you are."

        That's the worst advice I ever heard/read. You seem to have the misguided notion that people remain static over time, and never grow, mature or develop. Some are like that sure, but most of us are in an ever evolving state based on our life experiences. Any person who is with you needs to accept the core of who you are; expect that you will evolve over time, but not require you to change.

        "This above all else, to thine own self be true."
      • spxiii, on 06/30/2008, -0/+4My point is that it isn't easy to see your own flaws. I'd be perfect if no one told me otherwise, and I think I'm fortunate that I don't have that problem.

        If porn is at the core of who you are, then you are correct, my advice is horrible. But if you try to find someone who will always approve of everything you do, you'll have a long search ahead of you and will probably never find anyone. The problem is that "who we are" is defined less by our beliefs and more by our selfish vices:

        If you want to be with me, accept that I drink too much, accept that I love tasteless displays of sexuality, accept that I don't like being interrupted while gaming...

        I'm not saying I don't enjoy any of these things, but as our generation ages I'm seeing more and more adults acting like children and refusing to ever grow up. God forbid we do things we don't feel like doing.
    • xXIrsotehkewlXx, on 06/30/2008, -2/+24I am insecure as hell, but I would only be pissed if a guy was HIDING it from me. That isn't ok. I'd much rather him show and share his porn. Now if he was choosing porn over sex, there would be an issue.
      • themonkman, on 06/30/2008, -0/+24Most men hide it because they are embarrassed of what you might think of him should you know he likes porn. Instead of being pissed about him hiding it, assuage his embarrassment and insecurity by telling him it's alright and that he has nothing to hide about it. Even tell him it gets you hot, too. That way he'll feel more comfortable. The need to hide such things usually comes from childhood necessity of having to hide it from his mother. Whether you believe it or not, all men see women as motherlike figures deep in their psyche.

        Look at it this way: women have many things they hide from men because they are ashamed of. Sex toys are probably #1. Old love letters from past flames is probably #2. Women hide things from men just as much as we hide things from women. When it comes right down to it, he's hiding porn, not a crack-cocaine addiction. There are much more serious things in life to get your panties all up in a bunch about. Porn shouldn't be one of them unless it's an addiction or causing other unrelated strife.
      • geodebug, on 06/30/2008, -0/+11All men hide porn so get over it; even when their wives/gf are down with it. Everybody has a right to a personal sex-life as well as one with their partner. No two people have the same sex-drive, especially over time so it makes sense that one partner in a couple, usually the man, will need to take matters into their own hands from time to time.

        Another word for hiding is just being discreet and respecting others by not leaving it laying around.
      • xXIrsotehkewlXx, on 06/30/2008, -1/+4No I was talking about like going through great lengths to make sure I don't find it. (such as, putting it on a thumb drive... taking that and putting it in a shoe, and shoving it in the back of the closet)

        As long as I am satisfied and as long as all he is doing is looking, I am ok with it, but i would like to know about it.
      • earther, on 06/30/2008, -3/+2"I am ok with it, but i would like to know about it."
        I call *****. You knowing about it will just send your emotions into overdrive. Women always say this, and it almost always backfires on us boys.
        Just tell/show me, honey, i swear it won't be a problem.
        If he's already going to great lengths to hide it from you, it's because he knows the trouble it will cause if/when you find it.
      • feignNU, on 06/30/2008, -1/+1You want to know about it, but to what degree? Would it suffice for a new boyfriend to tell you early in the relationship "oh hey, I masturbate to porn," or does it take more for you to be satisfied that you "know about it"? Do you just want to know that it exists, or do you want to see the porn he's looking at to make sure it's ok? Would you consider it "hiding" things if you watched porn with your boyfriend, but he *also* watched it in private and didn't necessarily share it all with you? I am actually curious to know the answers to these questions, btw.

        I have to agree with geodebug here and say that I think everyone is entitled to their private, personal sex-life, and to the extent that a person's personal sex-life is not interfering with the other aspects of his life, I think it is really nobody's business but his own, and that includes any significant others.
      • Larsonal777, on 06/30/2008, -6/+1Women who say this are just being manipulative... they'd rather KNOW about the porn than not... but they are NOT ok with the porn. Heck any one of them who says they are ok with it just want to have that over their partner... it makes them feel superior that their man is addicted to porn. They feel they have more rights... "you watch porn... so I can (fill in the blank here)".
      • Spudster, on 06/30/2008, -0/+1If your BF has a weird ass fetish that he's ashamed about, expect him to hide it. Sometimes its better not knowing the truth, unless you're REALLY open and comfortable about your sexuality.
      • themonkman, on 06/30/2008, -1/+5It sounds like your a little more than just insecure. You are controlling, too. If he's putting it on a thumdrive and sticking it in his shoe, who cares? If he is doing that, he is obviously uncomfortable with you knowing about it because he has a strong conviction and reason to believe that you'll become seriously upset with it. He might also believe that you aren't an open minded enough lover for him to approach you with.

        Besides, what if instead of hiding porn on a thumbdrive in a shoe, he hid it in a far more secretive spot, like his mind? You can't find it by accident. You probably won't even be able to get him to confess to it. He'll have memories of all of his sexual fantasies with women, either real or fictitious, in his brain...locked away from your prying eyes. Sure, he can find women doing pretty insane things in magazines and on videos, but there is no limit to the kinkiness he can conjure up in his imagination.

        If that doesn't pique your insecurities, I don't know what will. Personally, I do not need physical porn to please me.
      • mikec00l, on 06/30/2008, -0/+2A woman on digg, Lies!
      • Linzee82, on 06/30/2008, -0/+2I feel what everyone here is saying, except Larsonal777. You should probably have a talk with him about why he is hiding it. I would believe that it's because he thinks you'll freak if you saw the types of pornos he was watching. Only you and him know the answer to that. But when you do, try not to react to what you feel initially. Doing so will only confirm his suspicions.

        I was in the same boat as you when my fiancee and I got together, except I didn't even want him watching pornos. I found it eventually, and we talked about it. He explained that the only reason he hid it from me to begin with was because he thought that I would freak out and think that he wasn't attracted to me. Well, I didn't freak and we talked about it. In fact, we now enjoy watching pornos together. (Doesn't mean you have to) Basically, you need to talk with him and find out why YOU have issues with him hiding it. Then find what the two of you can do to make things work for the both of you.

        P.S. From time to time, I still find myself thinking "freak-out" thoughts when I see he's watched a porno without me. All I do is put on some sexy lingerie and say to myself, "Let's see those girls get laid like I'm about to." Usually does it for me, but find what will work for you.
      • jeskadubyah, on 07/11/2008, -0/+1@linzee82
        i agree with your approach. though i do fall into the 'freak out' camp, i learned to assuage my fears and insecurities by turning around and making myself (at least in my own mind, where it seems to count most!) more attractive.
        plus, try as they might, porn can't do the things i can!
        does that mean i'm rewarding this behavior?
    • azzythedemon, on 06/30/2008, -2/+37As a girl, I don't get why girls get so worked up about it. I mean, for a normal dude, porn is just a way of relieving sexual tension. He doesn't actually give a ***** about what happens to the women; he's just using them to gratify his lizard brain. I think that women think that they aren't satisfying their guy, or that he really prefers the porn to them, and so they go all bonkers.
      • feignNU, on 06/30/2008, -1/+2Exactly. And the thing is, even if you could get a guy to stop jerking off to porn, he's still gonna jerk off, he'll just have to use his imagination a little bit more. But because of the nature of fantasizing, this guy is, *at least* some of the time, going to be fantasizing about someone other than his girlfriend. So which is better girls, having your boyfriend actively fantasizing about someone, or having your boyfriend passively taking in erotic images that aid in his arousal and allow him to rub one out and get on with his day?
      • Larsonal777, on 06/30/2008, -2/+4HAHA... see my reply to xXIrsotehkewlXx above... azzytheydemon is proof that it is true that women aren't ok with the "porn" but ok with the fact that they have something to hold against their man... they feel superior because men are addicted to porn.

        "he's just using them to gratify his lizard brain"

        haha... tell us how you really feel azzythedemon.
      • bushout, on 06/30/2008, -0/+0>he's just using them to gratify his lizard brain

        something said, not good,....

        ...ooh boobies
      • Linzee82, on 06/30/2008, -0/+6Where's the green thumb +100 button??

        "I think that women think that they aren't satisfying their guy, or that he really prefers the porn to them, and so they go all bonkers." Nailed it on the head with that one.
      • nomadgabe6, on 07/17/2008, -0/+1Dugg for "lizard brain"
    • siszam, on 06/30/2008, -14/+3That isn't insecurity. God says if you look upon another with lust then you commit adultery. I see a lot of sick people here who are lost in sin and in need of help. If you have a porn addiction you are not secure and well adjusted enough to give advice.
      • Pissoff, on 06/30/2008, -1/+5Maybe it's not lust, maybe it triggers memory of past activities.

        What if men use their imaginations? Still lust?

        What a joke.

      • NSResponder, on 06/30/2008, -1/+6"God says if you look upon another with lust then you commit adultery."

        Oh yeah? Well, the easter bunny told me to look at all the naked bodies I want.

        -jcr
      • relentless1914, on 06/30/2008, -5/+2You're brave to post this on digg. But I can't disagree. The idea that people think that in a marriage they "have a right to a private sex life" really illustrates the reason why the divorce rate is so high.
        What if you're married and you're watching bestiality videos on the side. That stuff is really sick. Your wife, who you made a commitment to has a right to know, since you swore an oath to forsake all others, (even horses), for her sake....

        You're right, a lot of people lost in sin here....
      • raytibbitts, on 06/30/2008, -3/+1You actually beat me to it.
        I would have liked to have made this comment.
        Any Christian, especially those who get married 'in the church' are not being honest with themselves if they blame their wives' insecurity for all their marital problems, if they are watching porn.
        Jesus made it pretty clear.
        Digg is a very wide section of people who use the net.
        Most who place comments here are not interested in hearing about how narrow the Way actually is.
        I am actually pleasantly surprised you haven't been as buried as far as I expected, (yet.)
      • DreKor, on 06/30/2008, -1/+1I guess it's a good thing God is so forgiving of all us sinners. We'd all be pretty screwed otherwise.
    • robothearts, on 06/30/2008, -1/+3It's a great insecurity for a girl if a guy is hiding it from her. If it is out on the open, its not a big deal - it's normal, it's natural, all guys do it, the girls on there do not come close to how awesome and gorgeous you are. when it's a hidden and secret activity, a girl feels like the guy likes the females in porn more. He's enjoying something enough to feel guilty about it and to hide it from her.
    • dlite922, on 06/30/2008, -0/+1insecurities....man ...that's a whole new animal.

      And with these personal stories, that's something else. This is one sloppy emotional comment chain.
    • davecachia, on 06/30/2008, -0/+3Stupid religious freaks.

      Keep your stupid beliefs to yourself.
  • LizNovack, on 06/29/2008, -37/+107Women have to stop taking porn so seriously! And men have to stop looking at the nasty perverted stuff.
    • PoopStick, on 06/30/2008, -5/+175bi-sexual amputee Asian midget clown fart fetish.... its whats hot
      • mixsense, on 06/30/2008, -0/+75I see you're a regular at BiSexualAmputeeAsianMidgetClownFartFetishTube.com
      • Premier, on 06/30/2008, -1/+108Hey, that site doesn't exist! Got me all excited for no reason!
      • yojiffyskippy, on 06/30/2008, -6/+55Clowns? You're sick!
      • krets, on 06/30/2008, -1/+32It will exist pretty soon.
      • Sabretou, on 06/30/2008, -3/+49Rule 34: It already exists.
    • lordtyros, on 06/30/2008, -1/+76You say nasty perverted stuff, I say good *****.
    • craighoxton, on 06/30/2008, -0/+72You know you've seen too much when the only thing that gives you wood anymore is the IKEA catalog
      • dazparkour, on 06/30/2008, -0/+11Ah fight club.

        "And I wasn't the only slave to my nesting instinct. The people I know who used to sit in the bathroom with pornography, now they sit in the bathroom with their IKEA furniture catalogue.".
    • terminal157, on 06/30/2008, -3/+51You are 50% correct.
    • cosinezero, on 06/30/2008, -0/+28"men have to stop looking at the nasty perverted stuff. "

      -->Most of my past girlfriends liked significantly nastier porn than most guys I know. Can't say it's women in general, but I can't say that men are the worst offenders when it comes to perverted stuff.
      • oninbonin, on 06/30/2008, -0/+4Totally! My wife watches crazier pr0n than I do..
    • zeabu, on 06/30/2008, -3/+20My girlfriends likes harder stuff than i do.
      Eg.: I don't like watching orgies, she does.
      • markperia, on 06/30/2008, -4/+56It's a hint...For gods sakes man make a move!
      • zeabu, on 06/30/2008, -0/+2I don't share, sorry..
      • ChromeGhost, on 06/30/2008, -0/+4if she likes girls too you might want to change your mind ;-p
    • azzythedemon, on 06/30/2008, -0/+3It's just curiosity. Who cares?
    • thailand1972, on 06/30/2008, -0/+3And what would you consider "perverted stuff"?
    • Spudster, on 06/30/2008, -0/+12The problem with your view of "perverted porn" is that they are fetishes and people who don't share that fetish have a tendency to pass judgement on those individuals.

      For someone who is into a fetish like bondage, scat, furries and others like it, the fetish is exciting and sexually gratifying. For someone who isn't, seeing those types of fetishes can be disgusting and make them feels as if this person is disturbed deep down, etc when in reality they're just normal people who happen to have a sexual stimulation from a certain fetish. Lots of the time fetishes can develop from harmless experiences during childhood that can lead to sexual desires for odd things (kids who play a lot of cops and robbers may develop an attraction to s/m later in life, etc.).

      To call such people "perverted" because you don't identify with their sexuality is quite frankly prude and offensive. If their sexual preferences/fetishes are causing no harm, then you have no reason to look down upon it (child pornography or extreme body modification for example would not meet this criteria).
      • thailand1972, on 06/30/2008, -0/+3 I think this is a big reason why women just don't understand men's sexual desires because they (by and large) don't actually have those very same desires as men, and so the porn men look at is "disgusting". It's also why some hetereosexual guys find homosexuality "disgusting", because they don't have that sexual preference. It's a basic human flaw actually : I don't dig whay you dig, so what you dig is WRONG and BAD.
    • digitaldan87, on 06/30/2008, -0/+4I AM NOT getting rid of my Brazilian fart porn.
    • yahoofrom, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1What's wrong with being a pervert? What makes you think kiss is not a fetish? Just because so many people happen to enjoy it?
  • TribalCouncil, on 06/29/2008, -26/+498Logic? Porn? Women? A threesome never meant to be.
    • Trax91, on 06/30/2008, -0/+14But Porn needs Women! Maybe a twosome then...
      • Sabretou, on 06/30/2008, -1/+5Logic goes out the window in that case...
      • Peko, on 06/30/2008, -1/+1I felt so alone in my erotic spock slash fic. Now I am validated.

        And that vulcan sign thing is the *****, ifyouknowhutimean
    • mewho, on 06/30/2008, -5/+3Most of my friends (and I) prefer porn with plot. In the industry it's called emotional porn. Think Brokeback Mountain or Sex in the City with more shown. And sure, we'll watch it with you.
      • gandhii, on 06/30/2008, -0/+6men are just looking to jack off... if we were interested in something with more "plot" and "emotion" we'd be giving our ladies a call.
    • Tophillious, on 06/30/2008, -0/+11Am I the only one who had a 'movie trailer' voice whenever I read that?
      • riyehn, on 06/30/2008, -0/+5"This summer...one man will discover porn...in a way you never imagined!"
      • passedoutghost, on 07/01/2008, -0/+0*Cumming this summer*
    • r3negadeX, on 08/11/2008, -0/+1Uh...yeah, have fun on Meatspin, I guess.
    • Ronsardinho, on 06/30/2008, -0/+0Logic? Women? A twosome never meant to be... (just kidding, couldn't resist)
    • syndakitz, on 06/30/2008, -0/+0Hard not to laugh at that comment
  • btschul, on 06/29/2008, -39/+18Boom, cumshot
  • Brad324, on 06/29/2008, -5/+674when I see all the porn in society today, all I can do is just sit there... shaking my fist at it.
    • jeremyosborne81, on 06/30/2008, -5/+146I see what you did there.
    • Nitesmoke, on 06/30/2008, -7/+253All I do is watch porn and eat Cheatos and try to figure out why my dick is orange.
    • DogBotherer, on 06/30/2008, -3/+12Bravo
    • cheeseplease, on 06/30/2008, -5/+40Congratulations! You just won an internet!
    • Jayzgame, on 06/30/2008, -4/+14Good show, sir.
      Good show.
    • hagfish70, on 06/30/2008, -4/+31My vote for comment of the year.
    • Lockhart, on 06/30/2008, -3/+33I actually had to put up my fist and shake it before understanding the joke...
      • feliks2, on 06/30/2008, -0/+13I had to read your comment before understanding it, thanks.
    • lexbi, on 06/30/2008, -1/+4gg wp brad!
    • sodabeast, on 06/30/2008, -0/+2brilliant
      • cwk1337, on 06/30/2008, -1/+1Heard the exact same quote on one of the Comedy Network standups.
    • vrich187, on 06/30/2008, -0/+3Genius, although sometimes I shake one fist, and then the other.....
  • BobDell, on 06/30/2008, -7/+151I've got nothing against porn except that so much of it is really lame.
    • craighoxton, on 06/30/2008, -5/+8Nobody watches it for the dialogue or production values
      • DatoeDakari, on 06/30/2008, -5/+11I do haha
      • Rudegar, on 06/30/2008, -1/+38for me it's
        90% Interior decoration tips
        10% to see what those crazy midget lesbian get up to next
      • DogBotherer, on 06/30/2008, -0/+9Agreed, but really crap dialogue is worse than zero dialogue, and I often just wish they'd get on with it! Also, I know men's buttons are generally pretty straightforward, but a lot of it is cheesily stereotyped.
      • djk21108, on 06/30/2008, -0/+2I'm sorry that Martin Scorsese doesn't direct the porn we like.
      • rearlgrant, on 06/30/2008, -0/+2What a cool idea in this thread...

        What kind of porn would the Cohen brothers produce?

        Quentin Tarantino? Sofia Coppola? Mel Brooks? Steven Speilberg?

        I'd pay to see those movies.

      • nepidae, on 07/01/2008, -0/+0A lot of it lately is the camera guy talking about some stupid ***** to the chick. LET HER DO HER THING.


        er.... nevermind
    • MxM111, on 06/30/2008, -5/+2How do you know that there is so much of it? You are looking for it?
    • luckyguy2000, on 06/30/2008, -0/+8yeah good porn is rare. and i dont mean that it needs to have a great multilevel storyline. but it has to trigger fantasies. for me a fully clothed women with a sexy background story is so much more hot than a blantant nude girl getting f... loved. its the setting that good porn seperates from bad porn.
      • mewho, on 06/30/2008, -0/+3Look in the lesbian erotic section... or porn made by lesbians for lesbians.
      • derbestemann, on 06/30/2008, -0/+0abby winters ftw
    • metalgel, on 06/30/2008, -0/+3its the expensive fake production type porn i cant stand. thats why im into the homemade stuff. and i have to thank youporn for that, even if the image quality or length of video comes up short. but sometimes i only need a minute anyway ;)
    • tito184, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1You just haven't found the right porn. Trying searching for what you like...I guarantee the Valley has what you need.
  • WWJeffersonDo, on 06/30/2008, -8/+77Human sexuality reminds us that we are not so removed from the animal kingdom.
    • atdigg, on 06/30/2008, -6/+16Do animals like to look at other animals having sex?
    • sockpuppets, on 06/30/2008, -3/+41That made me fling poo at my monitor.
    • ThrstForKnwldge, on 06/30/2008, -0/+16When is the last time you seen a monkey pull out and bust a nut on another monkey's face?
      • cheeseplease, on 06/30/2008, -0/+20Last friday if I remember correctly.
      • Phyraxus, on 06/30/2008, -0/+26Youtube has failed us all in that regard.
      • BoneheadFarker, on 06/30/2008, -0/+5Dude...rule 34...
      • feignNU, on 06/30/2008, -0/+5Bonobos give blowjobs, so I'm sure they get their share of money shots.
    • jiltjouster, on 06/30/2008, -0/+1several things remind us that we are not so removed from the animal kingdom if we choose. But we can (and often should) choose differently. Say for example, mother guppies eat their young, but we choose not to. The animal kingdom is not a very useful moral standard.
    • TheTrace, on 07/15/2008, -0/+0It's just the opposite dude. Find another species where the male might insist his mate insert her foot up his ass while he wears her bra and mascara.
  • wildfire, on 06/30/2008, -9/+24"Beautiful. And while we're at it we can light up a dubey and watch porn."
  • ethornquist, on 06/30/2008, -14/+111It's okay as long as no one gets fisted. That's just gross.
    • DatoeDakari, on 06/30/2008, -8/+41whats wrong with that?
      • lamiaconfitor, on 06/30/2008, -2/+61I am totally comming to your parties.
      • zeabu, on 06/30/2008, -9/+2double anal fisting?
      • CrunkeD, on 06/30/2008, -0/+0Ok, if you're sure you can take it.
      • passedoutghost, on 07/01/2008, -0/+02 lesbians fisting each other vaginally is a beautiful thing.
    • Kyrgizion, on 06/30/2008, -2/+72Hey! I object! Who's to say a man cannot lovingly insert both fists into his tender loving woman at once? Sure, there might be a ruptured colon or a prolapsed uterus now and then, but that's just a small price to pay for the togetherness and unity you feel while pounding away vigorously - and literally - into your respected other half's groin.
    • chrispr, on 06/30/2008, -11/+69***** PUNCH!
      • Millsee, on 06/30/2008, -2/+43wtf?

        I don't want to laugh at your comment but the corners of my mouth are denying me...
      • Trax91, on 06/30/2008, -12/+2Its Falcon Punch.
        /pornazi
      • ScottMcQueen, on 06/30/2008, -1/+3*barely repressed chuckle*
      • DarkDx, on 06/30/2008, -0/+1FALCON PUNCH!
      • passedoutghost, on 07/01/2008, -0/+0@DarkDX: IN THE *****!
    • Hypermarkalan, on 06/30/2008, -0/+18"No one should have anything inserted into their ass that's bigger than a fist or less loving than a dildo."--Carlin
    • hermslice, on 06/30/2008, -0/+20Its all fun and games until someone gets fisted

      then its a party
    • BestJaxx, on 06/30/2008, -0/+1That is one of few fetishes that I simply can't rap my head around, or my *****.
    • Dustin00, on 06/30/2008, -2/+3My kink is ok, yours is ***** up.

      Everybody has limits. Why are you so obsessed with forcing yours on others?
    • johnroth, on 06/30/2008, -0/+1I used to think so to... oh Jesus what is wrong with me???
    • TheTrace, on 07/15/2008, -0/+0fisting is freak show stuff ... boring
  • poprocksandsoda, on 06/30/2008, -5/+84Apparently many women do like porn because they never seem to run out of women willing to do it.
    • Kyrgizion, on 06/30/2008, -1/+9You mean, as long as they never run out of money to pay them with? I guess you can count the pornstars who are in porn for the actual porn (and it being an easy job) instead of the cash on one hand.
      • 3rdDay, on 06/30/2008, -2/+9Count pornstars on one hand? Practical, really.
      • Gatesophile, on 06/30/2008, -0/+11If you look at sites that are free and amateur, like xtube and the like, there are many women on there who upload their own porn purely because they like it, they don't get paid.
    • terminal157, on 06/30/2008, -2/+51Apparently many women are willing to have sex for money. The porn is incidental.
      • DogBotherer, on 06/30/2008, -0/+8I think we can safely say people are...it's just that there are enough men willing to do it for free.
    • trispear, on 06/30/2008, -0/+1I don't know. If more women start liking porn, they may have increased expectations for what size the average male should be like.

      On the other hand, most porn is about as unromantic as you can get (foreplay, attention paid to the needs of the female partner) so that would lower expectations, letting me easily surpass them....

      A quandary....
  • Whiteknight117, on 06/30/2008, -5/+125I have a wizard fetish.
    • fhernand, on 06/30/2008, -3/+87please don't put on your robe and wizard hat
    • lamiaconfitor, on 06/30/2008, -0/+35Too bad you aren't a girl, I have an outfit.
    • laughandsing, on 06/30/2008, -2/+15HoT
    • Bzornes, on 06/30/2008, -1/+6WIZZARDDDD!!!!
    • thailand1972, on 06/30/2008, -5/+3Wizard's sleeve you mean?
    • Lockhart, on 06/30/2008, -0/+33I cast Lvl. 3 Eroticism. You turn into a real beautiful woman.

      I meditate to regain my mana, before casting Lvl. 8 ***** of the Infinite.

      I spend my mana reserves to cast Mighty F*ck of the Beyondness.

      I steal yo soul and cast Lightning Lvl. 1,000,000 Your body explodes into a fine bloody mist, because you are only a Lvl. 2 Druid.

      Robots are trying to drill my brain but my lightning shield inflicts DOA attack, leaving the robots as flaming piles of metal.

      King Arthur congratulates me for destroying Dr. Robotnik's evil army of Robot Socialist Republics. The cold war ends. Reagan steals my accomplishments and makes like it was cause of him.
      • Arcesius, on 06/30/2008, -0/+16Baby, you there? I think it's starting to get hard now.
      • jessenoob, on 06/30/2008, -0/+6For those who don't know, google bloodninja.
      • babbitblob, on 06/30/2008, -0/+1...baby?
    • CrunkeD, on 06/30/2008, -1/+0hermione
    • passedoutghost, on 07/01/2008, -0/+0I am playing with my wand as you speak
    • tito184, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1Ask and you shall receive:
      www.whorelore.com
    • Zincyams, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1I have a fetish wizard.
  • Carl306, on 06/30/2008, -10/+15"I will state this right from the start: I am a fan of porn."

    Truer words have never been spoken.
    • cheeseplease, on 06/30/2008, -3/+4That's a pretty lame comment. I don't know if there is different levels of "true" but if there is, I'm sure many truer words have been spoken.
  • JoeB4ever, on 06/30/2008, -4/+113Has anyone seen my copy of Backdoor Sluts 9?
    • cerealjynx, on 06/30/2008, -0/+17Aw, not THAT one!
    • geoff1210, on 06/30/2008, -0/+174Backdoor Sluts 9 makes crotch capers 3 look like naughty nurses 2!
      • cheeseplease, on 06/30/2008, -0/+14I laughed out loud for almost 10 seconds reading your comment :)
      • DroppedGT, on 06/30/2008, -0/+1Are they any competition for ***** Force 5 ?
    • matts05, on 06/30/2008, -1/+23LOL... we shall go on a quest...
    • homesqua, on 06/30/2008, -3/+7You Shall Not Pa!!!... .. you shall not paaaas...
    • analogkid01, on 06/30/2008, -0/+4My...precious...
    • MJDub, on 06/30/2008, -2/+1Yeah somebody switched out the DVD and put it in my ***** Plow 4 case.
    • TheTrace, on 07/15/2008, -0/+0Which reminds me: As you all know, Bob Woodward named his inside source in the Watergate scandal "Deep Throat", after the famous pornographic movie of the time. Owing to sea change in the porn world over the last 30 years, he was reduced to callling his inside source in the Bush administration "Anal Coeds Vol. 24".
  • cloudzero45, on 06/30/2008, -35/+5This doesn't bother me because im gay
    • nubnub, on 06/30/2008, -0/+23... and?
    • BestJaxx, on 06/30/2008, -1/+2I'm gay, but that doesn't mean that I shouldn't care about how women deal with the porn industry.
    • Jimmerz, on 06/30/2008, -0/+1While straight porn might not pique your interest or that of the person you are intimate with, there is still something to consider. As a homosexual would you be bothered if your significant other looked at gay porn? These feelings of jealousy and such are not unique to females or people of one sexual orientation...
  • willynilly, on 06/30/2008, -2/+86Be careful what you ask for: Look at how much women bitch about having to live up to body images propagated in the media. You want to face the same problem... in your pants?
    • sockpuppets, on 06/30/2008, -2/+18I'm hung like a puppet.
    • mohsenxp, on 06/30/2008, -0/+40as long as you make your girl cum the last thing she'll think about is the size of your penis. Most girls don't even care anyway.
      Still though I do get occasional spurts of insecurity when watching porn with her and the guy is hung like a horse!
      • sealink, on 06/30/2008, -17/+9I'd say size doesn't matter, but for some women it does. I'm one of those chicks that loves penetration, so having a big guy is really important to me. Just find a chick that LOVES oral, get really good at it and rock her world. I was insecure about my ability to give head, so I worked on it and I'm proud to say that my bf has no complaints.
      • DogBotherer, on 06/30/2008, -2/+28How does the old joke run? The three classic female lies - you're the first, you're the biggest, you're the best. The male lies? As far as I can recall they're I won't come in your mouth, the cheque's in the post, and of course I'll still respect you in the morning.
    • Spudster, on 06/30/2008, -0/+2While dick size is a factor, any women will appreciate a man that knows how to use it. Vaginal intercourse rarely does the trick for most girls any way, you need to focus much more on the clitoris generally.

      General rule of sex: you can't bake a cake without first heating up the oven...
  • sockpuppets, on 06/30/2008, -3/+152The moment eharmony told me Sarah was in Girls Gone Wild I knew she was the one.
  • evanstapler, on 06/30/2008, -9/+62My mom found porn on my dad's computer once. My mom got really disgusted by it, and she never stops talking about how disgusting and vile porn is.

    This makes it awkward for me, her son, because I have to lie to her about it. I feel like I could never honestly tell her that I watch porn because of how she will react. I would like to show this article to her, but I would be too afraid of being judged.
    • mohsenxp, on 06/30/2008, -4/+66It seems that you have a close relationship with your mum.
      I would never have to lie about watching porn to her because simply the topic will never ever come up lol.
    • aladrin, on 06/30/2008, -7/+35Think of it as good training for the rest of your life. Women are brainwashed by society to think of porn as evil, and you will rarely meet one that doesn't.

      I personally find it easiest to just smile and nod when they rant about it. They need never know.
      • Issius, on 06/30/2008, -1/+9My gf watches porn on her own...
        And...most of the girls I'm friends with watch porn either alone or with their girlfriends (not lesbians, it's just something they do I guess...)
        Though I don't know how old you are and it seems like the younger generation is incredibly more open about sexuality than those who are around 30+

        Either that or the people I know are just really open.
      • Larsonal777, on 06/30/2008, -9/+2I am a man... and as a man (who has sexual urges the same as any other man) i have the right to say that I think society has brainwashed us into thinking watching porn is ok... NOT the otherway around.

        I for one would NOT want my girlfriend to think porn was OK or to let me watch it. Though I can say with a lot of confidence that any girl who is ok with their man watching porn is only ok with it because she is either A) a munipulative bitch who wants something to hold against her man or B) not very strong willed or smart and just wants her man to like her even though she doesn't really think porn is ok.

        I for one would not want a weak ditz, or a sly bitch... though if you're into that go right ahead... but don't fool yourself into thinking porn is ok just because you're addicted to it. Thats like a crack addict saying crack is ok.
      • zer0nix, on 07/01/2008, -0/+3porn in itself is not evil. however, the well oiled machine that makes it almost certainly is. the industry is well designed to draw in young girls, and -if they are eager performers- to not let go till every last ounce of youth and vigor is drained out of them; it is an industry that ruins the lives of its actors, and too many young girls are just too naive, uneducated or wrapped up in their own emotions to realize it (ps: eating your own feces and getting your clitoris cut off by frat boys is not being rebellious, it's just plain stupid).

        you could say it was their choice, but the lack of proper information (due to our censor friendly society, no doubt) precludes a rational choice from being made. instead, we get young girls today who think sex is all just a fun, well intentioned experiment for all (or that youth is eternal) and go on camera drinking cumfarts for chump change with the misguided belief that it's somehow going to make them a star. they will stay in the game long after the money is necessary, and long after it becomes totally un-enjoyable. and they will be forever be known as that chick who did porn. the industry is vampiric.

        porn is an OLD, well run business and doing porn is just a job like any other where you're worked ragged, from dawn to dusk by manipulative, self-serving whore-bastards, which is why so many 'pornstars' look like detached, lifeless husks; -who knows how many ridiculous shifts they've just done in a row, how many hours they've been going at it or whom they've just *****, for how many years or what addictions they've picked up to stay 'concious' for their roles. they are worked over night and day till they've lost their youthful exuberance, and then tossed aside like trash.

        for all the disease checking, the porn industry does not care about its workers survivability or long term health, and their emotional state is simply a tool with which to drive girls to do more depraved acts. one is EXCEEDINGLY lucky to not encounter despair working in the business.

        porn is a ruthless business. it is not 'friendly' -though it may appear to be at first; such is a deceitful and well concerted act. PAY ATTENTION TO YOUR CONTRACT, do not enter with only dreams in your head, and only stay long enough for the money to come pouring in. if your true goals and passions lie elsewhere, your youth is far better spent training for them than wasting your limited time doing porn for money.

        porn in itself is just fantasy. the industry however, sadly, is absolutely degrading to both men and women.
        society, again, is sadly to blame.

    • terminal157, on 06/30/2008, -3/+73Why in the hell do you want to tell your mom you like porn in the first place?
      • evanstapler, on 06/30/2008, -0/+36Trust me, I don't, but when she asks, "I'm so glad you don't look at that stuff... right?" I'm forced to just say what she wants, it seems.
      • rearlgrant, on 06/30/2008, -0/+2Not to minimalize your conflict -- so please try to take my comments positively.

        My reaction when I read your post was that it's time to Man-up and be an adult with your mother. Agreeing with her when you don't is both dishonest on your part and controlling on her's.

        If you feel the need to talk about it (rather than simply feeling comfortable with the difference between you and her -- a possibility but it doesn't sound like that's how you feel), do so honestly and openly and discuss the feelings behind your conflict.
    • je12u, on 06/30/2008, -7/+45But she doesn't judge you for being gay?
      • evanstapler, on 06/30/2008, -1/+36Nope, she fully embraced it since the moment I told her. :)
      • zeabu, on 06/30/2008, -2/+5Then I think she's just insecure.
      • minorthreat, on 06/30/2008, -6/+4that is so odd. It almost seems like she has had a big influence on your with your sexual preference. It's ok for you to be physically attracted to guys, but you are not allowed to watch porn?

        I think she has projected her whole life view on you and instilled it into your brain, even her sexual preference. My advice is grow a pair and use your own brain sometimes
      • Technohamster, on 06/30/2008, -0/+4So you don't know how she feels about gay porn then...

        A lot of porn activists only care cause women are objectified or some ***** like that.
      • Larsonal777, on 06/30/2008, -2/+2wow... now that says something about porn... you can tell you're mom that you're gay but you can't tell your mom that you watch porn? wow.

        How can people be so ashamed of watching porn but so supportive of it?
    • alv22, on 06/30/2008, -8/+2Grow a set of balls, man. :/
    • patricks, on 06/30/2008, -2/+11So you have to lie to your mom about porn? Christ, stop your crying. Every boy on earth had to lie to his mom about porn at one point. Deal with it.
    • metalgel, on 06/30/2008, -2/+5your mom is naive as *****. sorry but shes seriously living in a cave if she doesn't think her son doesn't watch porn, or any male for that matter. yes mom i dont watch porn, i jerk off staring at the bathroom decor.
      • Larsonal777, on 06/30/2008, -3/+1Yeah... I could believe there's straight men out there who don't watch porn but... I'm sorry you can NOT convince me that a gay man doesn't watch porn.
    • Larsonal777, on 06/30/2008, -1/+2evanstapler, I have a serious question for you... When did you realize you were gay; before or after you started watching porn? And, If it was after how long were you watching porn before this?

      You don't have to answer if you don't want but I am curious to know.
      • evanstapler, on 06/30/2008, -0/+5I guess you could say I "came to terms with" my sexuality about December, six or seven months ago.

        Sexually, I had usually been interested in both women and men, usually men more than women. I usually felt really bad for being attracted to men, so I would try to tell myself it was wrong... Slowly, though, any interest in women just began to fade and I was, for the most part, only turned on by men. The early stages of puberty were really hard for me, and I realize I'm still experiencing adolescence, but it feels really clear to me.

        I'm currently a sophomore in high school now, and I started to occasionally view it around 7th/8th grade.

        I hope I answered your question!
      • Technohamster, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1Hey congrats.
      • Larsonal777, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1evenstapler, i guess i've heard stories and wondered if yours is the same... did this attraction towards men happen at all before the porn... or was this something that happened when you went online and the gay porn was mixed in with the regular porn. Was it something that grew mostly from your porn experiences?
      • Technohamster, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1You're kind of creepy you know.
      • Larsonal777, on 07/01/2008, -0/+1?? why is that? I guess I am wondering because many gay activists claim that gay people were born gay... but I think that while some people MAY have been "born" gay I truly believe it is a persons life experiences that will eventually condition them into homosexuality... so... I am asking questions. Does that make me a creaper? I mean I have no ill will towards anyone and am friends with several gay people but I don't like the whole congradulations for figuring out your gay thing... why is that such a big deal... people don't congradulate me for being straight especially since I never had to figure that out.
    • Spudster, on 06/30/2008, -2/+4My mother asked me if I fap. Then told me I didn't have to answer that she's not naive and knows I do it. When I have girls over, she thinks that I'm sleeping with them even if I'm not. Considering I've heard her having sex, I can say that my family is very sexually "open."

      Pretty weird I guess, but in the end it's pretty cool.
    • thecatcantalk, on 06/30/2008, -0/+3You could point out to her that female porn stars get paid as much as an investment banker or attorney...but that (straight) male porn stars only get paid as much as a postman. Guess who's actually being exploited for profit? Not the girls...they're getting rich.

      Tell her to check out Asia Carrera's website...she comes right out and says it, that the idea that porn stars are being robbed and exploited is total nonsense. Asia Carrera, by the way, played Carnegie Hall as a child, and dropped out of law school at Berkeley because "porn paid better than law, and (she) loves to *****".

      It's all about making men feel ashamed of their bodies, so that they can be emotionally manipulated. Seriously, think of the straight guys you know. What are they but slaves? The modern American (female-dominated) institution of marriage is just legalized slavery for men. But the girls go ***** if you say so.
      • TheTrace, on 07/15/2008, -0/+0"You could point out to her that female porn stars get paid as much as an investment banker or attorney..."

        From false premises, any conclusion can be drawn - Socrates, or someone else famous
    • playerdotca, on 06/30/2008, -0/+1What's your dad's stance on porn, your greatest battle to convince your mom that you watch porn is if your dad convinces her. My mom got really pissed at me at first when I started to watch porn, one dad my dad found it, I told him straight up yeah, I do. The only warning he gave me was to delete it so my 11 year old sister doesn't find it, very fair deal.

      So like, wtf is your mom going to do, spank you or something? It's human nature, unzip and double click for porn, there is no better way.
    • sangresabia, on 06/30/2008, -0/+1This was weird to even contemplate!
  • RyomaNagare, on 06/30/2008, -6/+73The thing with porn and women its only an issue in USA it seems, my GF loves porn, and so does some of my friends GFs, there is no reason to be disgusted by sex.
    • bumcheekcity, on 06/30/2008, -16/+3As a digger, there's the obvious necessity to replace "GF" with "right hand".
    • cheeseplease, on 06/30/2008, -3/+10Yeah true I always watch porn with my girlfriends (and I'm from Europe).
      • Larsonal777, on 06/30/2008, -3/+1girlfriendS?!? seriously why do people who watch porn with all their "sexpartners" seem to think having a sexpartner and having a real girlfriend is the same thing. Do you see yourself spending the rest of your life with any of these girls? If so... why haven't you?

        I've been to Europe many times and I will admit that there are naked chicks (in pics) all over the place and most people don't seem to care... but I can not imagine a girl who wants a real relationship without manipulation to be ok with porn.
      • rearlgrant, on 06/30/2008, -0/+2Larsonal777 - I think you protest too much...

        It's possible to have girl-friends, watch porn together, and not be sexpartners...
    • luckyguy2000, on 06/30/2008, -3/+5yeah, here too. majority of gfs love porn and im from europe.
    • TheSexyGeek, on 06/30/2008, -1/+10In Jamaica, most of the women I know love porn. Go figure. . .
      • asus2000, on 06/30/2008, -1/+2Appeasement. Women (and most men) are followers of the herd.
    • asus2000, on 06/30/2008, -4/+6You guys are insane. I've lived on both continents (and others) for years and had gfs on both, a majority of women everywhere are disgusted by porn.
      • Issius, on 06/30/2008, -2/+8Wrong. A majority of the women that will date you are disgusted by porn.
      • laughandsing, on 06/30/2008, -1/+2What women do you guys go around? I dont know any girl who's grossed out by it. They must be really insecure or have something against it religiously. I for one have no problem with it.
    • ashleegirl, on 06/30/2008, -1/+8American porn loving girl here, with at least six friends who also love porn. I say at least because those are the only ones I have watched it with.
  • wowsah156, on 06/30/2008, -34/+6Buried because of these reasons: One : divinecarolione writers seem to be senile and seem to portray women has docile compliant ctreatures who must be subservient to men. also the fact that the divingcaroline site has nothing of merit to deserve attention. 2: Is the wreiter seriously suggesting that if a boyfriend likes to watch rape porn or rough degradation porn then that this is a positive lifestyle choice?! Ludicrous bullcrap BURIED!!
    • lamiaconfitor, on 06/30/2008, -2/+14You are picking on people whom you perceive as stuck up?

      Guys, what does your irony detector say? ... mine is off the charts.
    • vassar, on 06/30/2008, -2/+10Your comments might be taken more seriously if you knew how to spell
    • erikbra81, on 06/30/2008, -10/+2I think I agree. The writer is right that porn as a concept--imagery or texts intended to make you horny--isn't wrong. However, she doesn't say ANYTHING about the real problem with porn as it is in the real world now. Porn THE WAY IT IS PRODUCED is quite blatantly designed to appeal to guys' darker fantasies. Like coming in a girl's face for no particular reason. Or like ***** her hard in the ass, which no woman enjoys if she's not masochistic. And it's supposed to show in the clips that the woman doesn't really like it. Often you can see that she's squirming or almost puking during the cumshot, or crying during anal sex. This appeals specifically to the sadistic and misogynous streaks in everyone. That is now the mainstream porn.

      And if this is what guys want I would be surprised. I think most of us get more aroused by intimate hot sex scenes. Like scenes where the actors make a lot of eye contact, and you can see in their expressions that they're really enjoying it. And where you can see their beautiful bodies instead of just a constant zoom-in on a dick and a pussy. The porn industry is sick, because it's run by half-gangsters that tend to have a ***** up view of women and sex.
      • AlekNovi, on 06/30/2008, -3/+6:)

        You said "Or like ***** her hard in the ass, which no woman enjoys if she's not masochistic. "

        Just because that's your personal experience, please don't project it onto the entire female populace. That's the sad problem with feminism, it was supposed to come in and liberate women from tight gender-roles... only to come in and put them into a different gender-role. It substituted one jail with another.

        What feminism does is... if most feminists don't like x... they then create this image where "no woman on the planet likes x, and if you talk about x, that makes you a woman-hater".

        Anal sex is a personal preference. I, personally (as a guy) don't like it, nor could see why anyone would like it, BUT that doesn't make me so arrogant as to project my own taste onto others and say "everyone who likes it, is perverted". I know women who do. I know guys who do. Simple.

        How is personal taste degrading? That's so arrogant as to be... amazing. Anyone who has a different sexual preference from you is perverted. And if they display it on camera, then they are "degrading their partners".

        Wow!

        Now, if it were stuff like s&m, physical abuse sex, rape-based sex... etc... then i could understand. Those are *objectively* bad, and not just a preference thing. Those are just down right hurtful.

        But cumming on a body part and anal sex?

        Those have existed since before human language, and yes, in a consensual form. Do a little reading. Try "the evolution of sexual desire" and "the mating mind" as well as "sperm wars"... All fine books by academics of biology and evolutionary biology.

        There is a evolutionary reason for some women to enjoy semen and for some men to enjoy tasting vaginal fluids. It's quite a diverse field.

        Just taking a big stroke and going "it's all perversion" is an extremely unintelligent, oversimplifying argument.
      • zombies187, on 06/30/2008, -0/+3I would agree that some porn is not good for human consumption. Such as making a girl puke or when you can tell she doesn't like it. (crying is not neccesarily evidence that she doesn't like it) However, 'assramming' sounds like vigorous anal. I'm sorry but people DO like vigorous anal. Cumshots to the face for no reason? Could it be that there IS a reason? Is the difference between cumming on or in a vagina (both pretty normal) so great when compared to cumming on or in a mouth? If you don't like facial cumshots in practice, thats one thing. Its a harmless practice, especially on film. Puking and pain are not mainstream porn. Theres alot of it, yes. But, if you want to know the truth, it helps to see examples of how undesirable it would be to push it a little farther. I'm probably going too far into the male psyche for you to keep giving a ***** about my opinion, but railing against anything less than criminal behavior is missing the point about the dangers of sexuality.
      • zeabu, on 06/30/2008, -2/+2I don't like hardcore porn, my girfriend does. So your point is void.
      • erikbra81, on 06/30/2008, -2/+2If you guys, Aleknovi and zombies187 (and unknown downmodders), seriously think that for example Bangbros (the largest Internet porn site) is something that women should embrace, I don't really understand it. Can't you try to see it from their perspective just a little?

        Now I don't care much for standard anti-porn people who say it's perverted or something like that. And I don't pass judgment on masochistic women who like it when it hurts. I don't judge people who get off on acting submissive or being humiliated either.

        What I'm saying is that most of the mainstream porn is simply degrading to women, and that is a deliberate part of it. Otherwise, for example, why do the guys throw out the girl on the street after they ***** her in the Bangbus? And why do they speak to her in a dominant, insulting way? This is a specific style of porn, and it's not surprising that a lot of women find it offensive. If submissive isn't their thing, that is.

        Now I'm not being very radical here. I have nothing against porn as such, nor am I advocating any censorship. I am not passing judgment on people who like it kinky. I'm simply expressing sympathy for women who criticize mainstream porn the way it is. And if you don't see their point at all, I really think you're the ones being radical.
      • earther, on 06/30/2008, -2/+1"most of the mainstream porn is simply degrading to women."
        If you try and make this argument, you lose. If i was an emotionally irrational creature, like yourself, i could try and make the same argument about the men in porn.
      • feignNU, on 06/30/2008, -2/+0Don't be silly. If you find certain kinds of porn offensive, simply don't watch them. Other people, both men and women, find it erotic and watch it for a variety of reasons and in a variety of circumstances. If you are dating someone who likes to watch this "offensive" porn on his own private time, unless you can point to some specific negative influence on his behavior that the porn has, you need to accept that how he chooses to fap is simply none of your business and move on.
      • zombies187, on 06/30/2008, -2/+1Bangbus is about as real as Jerry Springer. I don't know that its the most popular anything. There is more porn being made than there is time to watch it all on one TV. I've seen a few bangbus shows. But there is WAY more to the world of porn than that. You can't really claim that most of the porn being watched is bangbus. Most people at this point make their own porn.
    • AlekNovi, on 06/30/2008, -1/+11What's with the extreme-spinning technique?

      That's so cliche, it's not even funny.

      1) Someone posts a logical defense of a normal, balanced use of something
      2) Feminists reads it, and spins it to its extreme, to attack the original point, leaving logical arguments behind

      To give you an alternate non-gender example of what extreme spinning looks like.

      Imagine there was an article defending why cars exist (in front of people who think only bikes should exist).

      And you come in and write "oh!!! So the author is suggesting that it's ok to take our cars and crush little babies with them!!!"

      Little extreme example? Not more extreme than what you did above with the rape fetish comment.

      WHERE did the author mention rape-fetish-videos? Those are as far removed from normal porn, as is driving your family to vacation with the family caravan.... FROM taking an 18 wheeler, and racing it illegally through a school district (potentially running over children).

      How is mentioning the later (illegal street racing) an argument to why the before isn't ok (driving the family to vacation with the family car).

      Since when did it become normal to use extremes as a way to attack balanced normals?

      Porn: Consensual sex between adults caught on camera.


      • erikbra81, on 06/30/2008, -6/+1You're using the same spinning technique. The commenter wrote "rape porn or rough degradation porn". You instantly took up rape and spun it to mean that porn is somehow not consensual.

        That wasn't the point. What about rough degradation? What about the MAINSTREAM--not extreme--porn with standard features such as cum-shots and ass-ramming? You could have picked up on that instead and started a sincere discussion. Instead you spun it and shattered the glass house you're sitting in.
      • terminal157, on 06/30/2008, -0/+12"What's with the extreme-spinning technique?"

        I thought for sure you were going to describe a complex, and perhaps dangerous, sex act. I was let down.
    • Sabretou, on 06/30/2008, -3/+4Feminist commenter is feminist.
    • Spudster, on 06/30/2008, -0/+1First off, your point about erotic sex being what women like is an important point. Men like this too, but generally to a lesser extent. Just because men are more sexual and less emotional about sex does not make them inferior to women.

      Generally speaking there isn't that much bad about extreme porn as its really just a more hardcore form of lighter fetish's like rope bondage or body modifcation. People who watch more edgy porn are harmless and they can easily separate that fantasy with real life. If that wasn't true, would you then be looking down on every person who plays Grand Theft Auto (which contains far more graphic content)?

      If you start getting urges to rape people or violate their sexual boundaries however, then THAT is a problem, but being attracted to the porn itself isn't (assuming the actors are consensual and of age, child porn obv