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Tornadoes in Siberia?
englishrussia.com — Tornado? Well, it ’s OK on Cuba, Haiti, in Florida, Louisiana or even Texas, but tornado in cold cold Siberia? Noway! But not in this year, already a few of the have been spotted slashing through Siberian woods. Something is changing in the climate, really.
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- displacednomad, on 09/08/2008, -14/+76And so remains the question of whether this change is caused by humans...
But let's skip over that for a minute. Whether or not global warming is caused by humans is too difficult to decide today. What we can do today is look around in our rivers and roadsides, in our backyards, and in every dark corner of our cities and towns. And what will we find there? Litter. Pollution. Smog. Trash. Waste.
Plastic bits are swirling in the Pacific ocean in an area as large as a continent. The Beijing Olympics suffered publicity setbacks due to the smog (and the citizens suffered health setbacks because of it). New Jersey is a toxic waste dump. And outside every major city in America we have landfills. Holes in the ground where we leave our trash in huge piles and then bury it with dirt.
We are making a mess of the planet; our coal and oil digging, our mountain top strip mining, deforestation, and sucking water for irrigation has left riverbeds dry. Global warming caused by humans or not is becoming beside the point. We have to do something about the mess we are leaving- undeniably leaving- on Nature's front steps or Nature will purge us. Don't think she can? Try her.
Consume less. Drive less. Start today.- Hetman, on 09/08/2008, -31/+10First off are you some type of pagan worshipping the earth. The earth does not care about use. The earth has no emotions. It is not a he and a she. And it does not purge people.
- poet, on 09/08/2008, -9/+2Almost all forms of matter have evolved to fight destructive concepts--bacteria, virii, parasites, and anything else that could negatively affect its survival. The Earth can do the same.
- architectzero, on 09/08/2008, -6/+2Regardless, personifying "The Earth" implies that things beyond our control are somehow sentient and that we must placate them to keep them happy. That path smacks of religion rather than rational involvement.
- norman619, on 09/08/2008, -6/+2Hetman:
You gotta love how these people try to counter your argument with 100% pseudo science. - dinostabOMG, on 09/09/2008, -1/+1What argument? All he is saying is that he takes issue with the tone. That doesn't mean he is incorrect (although I almost want to stick up for New Jersey, just a little bit). Fine, take issue with the tone. As long as you do what needs to be done.
- Aroundtheworls, on 09/08/2008, -0/+24Reducing consumption is part of the equation. Curbing population growth is the other.
There are finite resources on the Earth and the global population has already grown more than four times since 1950. The supply of arable land and water is not increasing- increased demand will mean skyrocketing prices and the cost of basic necessities for our kids and grandkids will be far higher than now.- Hetman, on 09/08/2008, -4/+10I agree. The problem is people are animals. And like rabbits they cannot control their breeding. And if you tell them they should not have 5 kids they get all upset a whine about how it is my right to have kids. Sorry but that is not my problem because I do not have kids, nor to I plan on having kids. So I really do not care about your kids or grand kids.
- 9bpm9, on 09/08/2008, -8/+6Most of America is unpopulated. So where is this lack of land again?
- treed, on 09/08/2008, -0/+9*Arable* land. Good luck trying to grow your food in rock.
- norman619, on 09/09/2008, -0/+2Hetman:
Actually we CAN control our breeding. It's just that many in poor nations choose not to. Why don't we in the US, or most other western nations for that matter, have a population explosion? Why are our populations either steady and/or on a decline? By your reasoning we should be having the same problems as China, many African nations, and others. Unlike most other animals on this planet the human animal can plan ahead and make decisions based on more than just simple instinct. - andreegal, on 09/09/2008, -0/+1population controls itself even though fear mongers say otherwise.....all nations of the world are becoming more educated (at different paces), Its a well known fact (and obvious one) that the more educated the population the less kids expected...now....as far as food is concerned there IS more than enough food for everyone, we just don't have a good equal distribution system, I don't remember the figures but "waste" food from developed countries could feed millions....just do a quick search on how many potatoes are tossed out just because they don't have the "right" shape.
- regeya, on 09/09/2008, -0/+1agreed adreegal. The estimate is that at least 50% of the food produced goes to waste. No, that's not just the United States, though I'm sure the Anti-Americanist crowd would like to believe that. No, the waste figure is HIGHER in less-affluent countries, because the ability to store food just isn't there.
We'd all be walking around fat and happy, if we could figure out how to store food more properly without breaking the bank. - republicker, on 09/09/2008, -0/+1Don't worry your "population control" is in the works.
- echriswa, on 09/08/2008, -3/+3Really because we take for granted the 'good bugs' that live inside us. Otherwise deadly bacteria AKA e.coli live in our colons and help us. Sometimes these 'good bugs' go bad AKA autoimmune disease.
When this happens to humans we either figure out how to heal or die. The Earth is in the same predicament with humanity...heal or die.- Hetman, on 09/08/2008, -2/+5Its a rock orbiting a star. It does not care about healing or dying. We have had at least 3 mass extinctions on this planet, some say up to 7. And guess what the earth is perfectly fine. If you are worried about polution fine. That is bad because it effects humans. But the earth could care less what happens on it. It has no conciousness.
- norman619, on 09/09/2008, -0/+1echriswa:
Sorry but the other lifeless planets in our system are doing just fine. To think the Earth needs the lifeforms living on it is a bit naive.
- PolishLogic, on 09/08/2008, -2/+8"What we can do today is look around in our rivers and roadsides, in our backyards, and in every dark corner of our cities and towns. And what will we find there? Litter. Pollution. Smog. Trash. Waste."
Might want to take better care of your backyard then. - 9bpm9, on 09/08/2008, -2/+2There are better ways to solve these problems than "consume less, dress less".
- dinostabOMG, on 09/09/2008, -0/+1Sorry, but that is ultimately what we are going to have to do. We are not mindful of the consequences of our actions. You think this will never catch up with us? Anything else we may do could serve as a supplemental solution, maybe even very well. But you're only running us into the ground if you think we can continue with all of the consumption trends as they are now.
If we don't consciously make the transition easier for ourselves, by investing resources of all kinds in more responsible, mindful "cradle to cradle" production methods, as opposed to "cradle to grave" methods, it's going to happen for us. Shortages, famine, that sort of thing. And hey, it will be your fault! Good job.
- dinostabOMG, on 09/09/2008, -0/+1Sorry, but that is ultimately what we are going to have to do. We are not mindful of the consequences of our actions. You think this will never catch up with us? Anything else we may do could serve as a supplemental solution, maybe even very well. But you're only running us into the ground if you think we can continue with all of the consumption trends as they are now.
- stillious, on 09/09/2008, -0/+1This was a party political broadcast by the [Fill in the blank] party.
- a2fan, on 09/09/2008, -0/+0And somewhere, along a busy highway or interstate, the ghost of Iron Eyes Cody stands alone, with a tear in his eye.
- PwnisherX, on 09/09/2008, -8/+2"Consume less. Drive less. Start today."
Go ***** yourself. Start today. - elmetald00d, on 09/09/2008, -0/+3You know, I'm 100% against the Globar Warming is 100% done by humans let's all be hippy amish people and never do anything again.
But you sir, come from a totally different perspective and quite frankly, you make a great point and actually give me a reason to think about being nicer to planet earth.
those global warming supporters make me wanna further destroy everything around me.
thanks - DestroyFascism, on 09/09/2008, -1/+2Even if the argument for "Human made global warming" is incorrect which the jury is still yet to decide, the argument for sustainable solutions is more than worthy. If you can power a house a car a business using renewable energy 24/7 and do it self sufficiently on it own terms for its own needs then what is wrong with that?
If you can eliminate destructive elements of our behavior such as non biodegradable plastics and toxic materials, pesticides and polluting but highly destructive fertilizers that reap havoc and imbalance than why not strive to achieve this?
If you can grow plantation timbers in a desert then why not do that and reduce the amount of rivers blocked by our massive dams for power, irrigation and water supplies allowing natural rivers to flow freely than what is wrong with that?. If you can stop cutting down old growth forests and preserve space for species other than ourselves is that not respecting ourselves and making us true "custodians" of this small planet we have?
The truth is we can do this and more but its you the consumer who has to push it. You have the choices, the power and heavy hand to make these changes. Stop buying non plantation timbers. Use recycled papers and materials. Buy an electric car or simply a bike. Use Public Transport when you can and if you cant make noise about it. If you drive and the road is blocked ask why is it blocked, are there alternatives? 1 train is = to 1500 cars. 1 articulated tram is = 600 cars and 1 bus = to 50 cars.
How many buses would have averted that traffic jam?
- skiddles, on 09/09/2008, -0/+1you can power a house a car a business using renewable energy 24/7 and do it self sufficiently on it own terms for its own needs then what is wrong with that?
I hope you power your house with solar and /or wind. They are very expensive at the moment relatively speaking although coming down in cost at a steady rate. But my guess is that you like just about everyone else is getting your power from the grid and not prepared to make a choice as a consumer to "push it"
- skiddles, on 09/09/2008, -0/+1you can power a house a car a business using renewable energy 24/7 and do it self sufficiently on it own terms for its own needs then what is wrong with that?
- regeya, on 09/09/2008, -1/+1Couldn't have said it better myself. Let's drop the human-caused climate change schtick and just point out that we've made an absolute mess of things, but that it can all be dealt with.
But no...we humans, we have our priorities straight, our primary concern is WHO OWES WHO MONEY. - cutright, on 09/09/2008, -0/+2Besides the fact that these sorts of weather phenomenon have happened in Siberia before (the title of the page is just propaganda)... every other planet in the solar system is getting warmer too.
- uncleosbert, on 09/09/2008, -0/+1not true, and that is what you'd expect if it was the sun:
http://www.livescience.com/environment/070312_sola ...
only mars, jupiter, pluto and triton (moon of neptune) are warming. how about that? - cutright, on 09/09/2008, -0/+1Well Venus is definitely getting warmer too, but it seems we have conflicting sources... regardless, we at least agree there is "global warming" in places not yet tainted by humans.
- uncleosbert, on 09/09/2008, -0/+1not true, and that is what you'd expect if it was the sun:
- graemee, on 09/09/2008, -2/+1The sky is falling
- TheBigBentley, on 09/09/2008, -1/+1Or just do us all favor and kill yourself. Imagine how much better the earth will be without you making all that pollution.
- mistertrogdor, on 09/09/2008, -2/+2So here's Ollie Williams with the Black-U-Weather Forecast: SPECIAL Climate Change Edition
Weather around the world has been getting weirder and more deadly, What is causing all this adversity? VEHICLES
Do you remember what the sky looked like ten years ago? YES
Do you live constantly surrounded by white hazy air? I CAN'T SEE THE MOUNTAINS
Hypothetically...
How much heat can miles upon square miles of pavement absorb? ALOT
How much water can be suspended in a cloud? ALOT
Does more 'dust' increase the potential of cloud formation? I HAVE ASTHMA
How well does water transfer heat? GOOD
What absorbs heat? COLD
What happens to your drink when it gets warm? NEED MORE ICE
How does heat move to the poles of the Earth? WIND AND WAVES
Does the ocean transfer more heat than the atmosphere? HURRICANES
How slow do ocean currents move? SLOW
How fast can wind move? FAST
How many Wal-Mart parking lots does it take to melt an ice cap? STRIP MALLS AND EXIT RAMPS
So what does this all mean? WE'RE NOT IN KANSAS ANYMORE
http://i36.tinypic.com/14ieux0.jpg
Wait, Where did you get that Ollie? INTERNET
http://radar.weather.gov/Conus/full_loop.php
So does this happen all over the world? CHOCOLATE!!!- Mononuclear, on 09/10/2008, -0/+1I love you. Just after my other stomach pains were subsiding.
- BabyWookie, on 09/09/2008, -1/+1"Whether or not global warming is caused by humans is too difficult to decide today."
Err... no, it's not. At least, for the well over 90% of people who are qualified to make this decision - the climotologists.
- Hetman, on 09/08/2008, -31/+10First off are you some type of pagan worshipping the earth. The earth does not care about use. The earth has no emotions. It is not a he and a she. And it does not purge people.
- BrettFromTibet, on 09/08/2008, -3/+9If you ever get a chance to check out the Siberian landscape in Google Earth, it is truly an amazing place... hope the climate doesn't change it too much.
- norman619, on 09/09/2008, -2/+5The climate is always changing. Siberia wasn't always like it is now and it will change again like the rest of the globe. It's natural. Our planet is not static.
- angryredplanet, on 09/09/2008, -0/+3It depends in which the context you're meaning "natural" and the scale of time those changes are occurring. Sudden changes, like those seen in the last 100-150 years are anomalous and are grounds for serious concern. Changes over thousands of years or more can be considered natural and are consistent with background climate change.
Climate changes don't occur quickly unless there is something non-standard driving it. Volcanism is a "natural" tectonic process that drives climate change indirectly through the greenhouse effect, however this occurs as the exception and not the rule.
- angryredplanet, on 09/09/2008, -0/+3It depends in which the context you're meaning "natural" and the scale of time those changes are occurring. Sudden changes, like those seen in the last 100-150 years are anomalous and are grounds for serious concern. Changes over thousands of years or more can be considered natural and are consistent with background climate change.
- arkaycee, on 09/09/2008, -1/+1It didn't used to change very much year to year -- you can still see the 100-year-old scar from the Tunguska event ( for example, http://googlesightseeing.com/2005/11/25/the-tungus ... ). When early investigators came in in the 1930s, the felled trees were pretty much unchanged.
- norman619, on 09/09/2008, -2/+5The climate is always changing. Siberia wasn't always like it is now and it will change again like the rest of the globe. It's natural. Our planet is not static.
- laserterd, on 09/08/2008, -8/+0Thats frightening. The article is very poorly done but they get the point across and its scary.
- KreegsMcSteves, on 09/08/2008, -1/+1man up
- Zippo, on 09/08/2008, -7/+18Not really, honestly. Storms happen. Once in a while you get a bad storm. Once in a blue moon a bad storm turns really bad.
Tornadoes have happened, rarely, in all parts of the world.
Now, if Siberia turned into Europe's tornado ally, then yeah, we should probably be worried.- poet, on 09/08/2008, -11/+1I see ignorance magnifies ones stubbornness.
- ell0bo, on 09/09/2008, -0/+4If Siberia becomes Europe's tornado ally we have a lot more things to worry about then weather patterns changing. Take a look at a map quick...
- Recidivus, on 09/09/2008, -0/+2And if they had all those tornadoes as allies, there would be no stopping them!
- arkaycee, on 09/09/2008, -0/+2Tornadoes are nobody's ally. Not even in an alley.
- Zippo, on 09/09/2008, -0/+2ohohohohoho, I see what you guys did thar.
- BXRWXR, on 09/08/2008, -12/+4OH NOES! GLOBAL WARMING!
- Hetman, on 09/08/2008, -4/+5oh noes! caplocks. Is this your first time on the interwebs?
- zaockle, on 09/09/2008, -1/+0bahahahah
- reyalp, on 09/09/2008, -1/+1you fail at sarcasm, hetman
- Hetman, on 09/08/2008, -4/+5oh noes! caplocks. Is this your first time on the interwebs?
- miozio, on 09/08/2008, -7/+14I am originally from Siberia, i would tell you it has never happened there before, wow, my homeland! People there are not ready to deal with them!
- dsa204, on 09/08/2008, -11/+5I am actually from Siberia and tornadoes and monsoons are pretty commonplace there. So I'm not surprised, this article just gives you a day in the life of a Siberian. No global climate change here...
- dsa204, on 09/08/2008, -9/+4I am actually from Siberia and tornadoes and monsoons are pretty commonplace there. So I'm not surprised, this article just gives you a day in the life of a Siberian. No global climate change here...
- blachole, on 09/08/2008, -1/+37Those aren't tornadoes, they are water spouts. Tornadoes only occur on land.
I know some will argue this, but that's what they are technically called.- sockpuppets, on 09/08/2008, -0/+26I call them happy water straws, it makes them less threatening.
- DeskFlyer, on 09/08/2008, -10/+3Waterspouts are tornadoes.
http://www.usatoday.com/weather/tornado/wtspouts.h ...- WhiteKong, on 09/09/2008, -2/+2Read your own article. While waterspouts are tornadoes (massive columns of extremely low pressure as a mesoscale cyclone develops and the air rises), a waterspout is defined as a funnel cloud being formed over water; not land as a tornado does. Its like hurricane vs. typhoon, same formation and weather structure - different oceans.
- mt4055, on 09/09/2008, -1/+1Oh Yea!
USA Today is the first place I turn to for the definitive answer to a scientific question.
They do make pretty graphics though. - DeskFlyer, on 09/09/2008, -0/+1The guys who write the weather stuff for USA Today are employed by the National Weather Service. Bury me anyway, I guess.
- Ecuno, on 09/08/2008, -0/+4I agree with Blachole; the terminology says water spout = tornado, but most water spouts cannot last over land.
- themonkman, on 09/09/2008, -0/+15Waterspouts are cousins of tornadoes, except for the fact that they don't develop in supercell cumulus clouds like tornadoes. They aren't typically as powerful (usually around 50 MPH winds), and last only around 10-15 minutes. Tornadoes are usually caused by colliding high and low fronts which develop large thunderstorms and supercell wall clouds. Waterspouts are usually caused by rising humidity from warmer waters and the vapor that rises to the cloud, creating vortices.
It should be asked why the waters are becoming warm enough in Siberia to create waterspouts like this, and what current changes are causing it. To call these tornadoes, though, is fundamentally flawed.- Hincapie, on 09/09/2008, -0/+2thank you.
- gplpark92, on 09/08/2008, -11/+4oh, nothing's changing. its all in your head. our reliance on fossil fuels has absolutely nothing to do with climate change.
~ Palin, McCain, Bush, Cheney - dekuscrub, on 09/08/2008, -14/+9Buried for blaming it on global scamming, I mean warming....
- rmxz, on 09/08/2008, -2/+5Does this mean Siberia will soon have the climate similar to the central US (a great farming region)? Siberia's a pretty big place, so if so - this might be the answer to high-priced food and global hunger.
PS: Yes, I know that global warming will make some areas worse - but if it makes Siberia into great farmland, overall it might do more benefit than harm.- nathanww, on 09/09/2008, -2/+3"this might be the answer to high-priced food and global hunger."
Until it gets torn up by tornados - zaockle, on 09/09/2008, -0/+3i agree with the farming part
- nathanww, on 09/09/2008, -2/+3"this might be the answer to high-priced food and global hunger."
- roxgod666, on 09/08/2008, -5/+3The climate is definitely changing. Just recently, Pennsylvania's temperature almost broke its record for hottest day in September which was somewhere in the 90s. This was hotter than most days we had in July and August and it's staying hot...
- dextrocardia, on 09/09/2008, -0/+1So it didn't actually break the record, so it was hotter at an earlier time? What exactly is your point here, if you have one?
Just FYI, the records for most reporting stations in early September were set in 1953. The hottest temperature recorded in Pennsylvania in September is 102 in 1881.
Not saying anything about global warming, just pointing out that your statement has no validity whatsoever.- roxgod666, on 09/10/2008, -0/+1No point, i just felt like rambling
- dextrocardia, on 09/09/2008, -0/+1So it didn't actually break the record, so it was hotter at an earlier time? What exactly is your point here, if you have one?
- PGPirate, on 09/08/2008, -2/+3Does it blend?
- darkciti2, on 09/09/2008, -2/+2In Siberian tundra, tornado does not blend, it blends you!
- fearziz, on 09/08/2008, -0/+7I believe the correct word is "Water Spout". Tornadoes touch land...
- darkciti2, on 09/09/2008, -1/+1I thought that read "Tomatoes touch land..."
- MadHarvey, on 09/09/2008, -0/+0The appears to be some sort of glitch in the Matrix. I could have sworn I just read that...
-Pie
- cricketsymphony, on 09/08/2008, -0/+4tornadoes? in MY SIBERIA?
- HentaiJeff, on 09/09/2008, -0/+4it's more likely then you think
- redxninja, on 09/08/2008, -1/+11In Russian, it seems like people do not run away from tornado.
- cricketsymphony, on 09/08/2008, -1/+16that's because in soviet russia, tornado runs away FROM YOU!
- Ceaser57, on 09/08/2008, -0/+2Is anyone else annoyed that they only have 3 pictures, but set it up so that it looks like there's more?
Look closely, most pictures are just zooms of these 3 - YancyFryJr, on 09/08/2008, -2/+13In Soviet Russia, water spouts YOU!
- zaockle, on 09/09/2008, -3/+0DAMN IT U BEAT ME TO IT
- poet, on 09/08/2008, -0/+5No worries. It's just Russia testing out Tesla's weather weapons.
- TGA4Life, on 09/08/2008, -0/+13Its NOT a tornado, you can tell by the pics that it is a Waterspout:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waterspout
"In the Northern Hemisphere, September has been pinpointed as the prime month of formation."- BikerDude69, on 09/09/2008, -0/+6You beat me to it. They are waterspouts. It's late summer. September. It happens all the time. I see them over The Great Lakes all the time. I know this is Siberia, but you can see it is fairly warm there by the way the people in the picture are dressed. The season is cooling and tornadoes/waterspouts are commonplace. More global warming fear mongering, HOWEVER, that doesn't mean we should not protect the environmet and find cleaner ways of living life.
- ElBeh, on 09/08/2008, -3/+2Am I the only one who read the title as "Tomadoes"?
- Edudris, on 09/08/2008, -1/+9"Tornado? Well, it’s OK on Cuba, Haiti, in Florida, Louisiana or even Texas, but tornado in cold cold Siberia? Noway! But not in this year, already a few of the have been spotted slashing through Siberian woods. Something is changing in the climate, really."
Not only is it not a tornado in the pictures, but a waterspout as fellow diggers are pointing out - the locations where the author is thinking about (Cuba, Haiti, Florida, Louisiana) are known for Hurricanes.
When I think Tornado, I think Kansas. Wizard of Oz anyone?- HentaiJeff, on 09/09/2008, -0/+2Florida gets quite a few tornados, Texas too.
- gmiley, on 09/09/2008, -0/+1I can vouch for that statement, a few months back one went right down my street, messed up a couple houses on the other side of the road, but nothing but some debris on my side. about a mile or so away it roughed up a trailer park. Tornadoes, Waterspouts, and Hurricanes are all common occurrences in Florida. Event still, it does read as if the author was confused over which one they were talking about.
- lisaawesome, on 09/09/2008, -0/+2Yeah they should have named the tornado alley states if the description is going for places we are accustomed to seeing tornadoes in. I'm a little biased but when I think of tornadoes I think Oklahoma. Kansas and Texas would be after that.
- Volath, on 09/09/2008, -0/+0Yeah me too. I live in Oklahoma and in between the beginning of May and to the end of June it seems like we have a tornado warning once a week. We even have a drinking game. When there is a thunderstorm moving through the state each people pick a county, and whenever the weatherman says the name of said county you take a drink.
- HentaiJeff, on 09/09/2008, -0/+2Florida gets quite a few tornados, Texas too.
- PhoenixAvatar2, on 09/09/2008, -0/+5It's also Siberia. Not many people live up there, it could just be that they've always been there, but they just haven't been seen before.
- Elderon, on 09/09/2008, -0/+1Could humans be causing the climate change? perhaps, I'm sure we're certainly contributing, but before you go blaming this whole thing on us humans just remember the planet changes climates by itself. Ever heard of the ice ages? those were a natural event. Don't assume that the planet is supposed to keep a nice cozy weather system and temperature, because it can change just as it has in the past.
- jewishmafio, on 09/09/2008, -1/+6Siberian tornado.... a new type of vodka drink? :)
- lisaawesome, on 09/09/2008, -0/+1That sounds good.
- jewishmafio, on 09/09/2008, -0/+1yeah, and as a russian i would probably have to concoct something like... Potato Vodka + Beet Sugar + random substance.
- dhughes, on 09/09/2008, -0/+1 Wrecks your trailer and kills your dogs.
- nathanww, on 09/09/2008, -1/+1That is an extremely cylindrical tornado
- mikedoth, on 09/09/2008, -1/+1This should be our first priority. I say lets move all the care-not folks to a really bad part of the world where there's nothing but trash and smog and see how they fair. If they think it's so good then they should be fine, right?
- blarch, on 09/09/2008, -1/+1ZOMG! we have to stop global warming or the russians will have a lot of new useful territory!!!111!1!!1!!!7!!!
- waggowaggo, on 09/09/2008, -0/+5Well, it ’s OK on Cuba, Haiti, in Florida, Louisiana or even Texas, but tornado in cold cold Siberia?
NORWAY! - Papajohn56, on 09/09/2008, -2/+3buried as inaccurate, that's a water spout
- JepthaAxe, on 09/09/2008, -0/+1These are water spouts -- more akin to dust devils than tornadoes. Don't know how common they are in Siberia, but I have seen them on Lake Erie and have heard accounts of them on lakes in Canada.
- SgtSilverfish, on 09/09/2008, -0/+1Sounds like a good song title.
- tbredofsin, on 09/09/2008, -0/+0Dugg for the awesome pictures alone.
- jacrough, on 09/09/2008, -4/+4Doesn't look like a tornado, more like a water spout.
From the great god Wikipedia:
"While some waterspouts are strong (tornadic) like their land-based counterparts, most are much weaker and caused by different atmospheric dynamics."
most are much weaker and caused by different atmospheric dynamics.
most are much weaker and caused by different atmospheric dynamics.
most are much weaker and caused by different atmospheric dynamics.
most are much weaker and caused by different atmospheric dynamics.
most are much weaker and caused by different atmospheric dynamics.
Also, buried.- MindTrigger, on 09/09/2008, -1/+1Buried? Yes. Yes you are.
- regeya, on 09/09/2008, -0/+1Buried as a redundant comment.
- sneakerman23, on 09/09/2008, -2/+1will it blend?
- tornadowitness, on 09/09/2008, -0/+1I am a big fan of Al Gore and his documentary on global warming, however he is unwilling to be part of a debate with the scientific community. Also, several scientists believe that we are in "Global Cooling". I would like to see Al Gore defend his research with the scientific community.
Darrell Kirk
Tornado Witness Radio- Grin23, on 09/09/2008, -0/+0technically both points of view are coorect since global warming will eventually lead us to another ice age. predictions vary from anywhere from 400 to 1000 years till the next "Big Freeze"
- lobsang, on 09/09/2008, -0/+2The poster appears not to be able to distinguish between tornado and a hurricane (aka tropical cyclone). Florida, Louisiana and the Caribbean have a very low to zero incidence of tornadoes (as he implied as "being OK in ...). They do get hit occasionally by *hurricanes*, though.
Tornadoes and hurricanes are completely different phenomena.- bownasterm, on 09/09/2008, -0/+1Tornadoes spin off of hurricanes typically, look at gustav there were atleast 10 warnings for tornadoes.
However a tornado CAN occur anywhere in the world so long as conditions are met. This does not imply a human cause.
- bownasterm, on 09/09/2008, -0/+1Tornadoes spin off of hurricanes typically, look at gustav there were atleast 10 warnings for tornadoes.
- Knowltey, on 09/09/2008, -3/+1You can tell that something is seriously screwed up with the atmosphere when this happens in a place with an average temperature equal to the freezing point of water.
- bownasterm, on 09/09/2008, -0/+2That does not mean it CANT happen.
- tim620, on 09/09/2008, -0/+1Maybe, but some parts of Siberia can get up to 100F in the summer. Siberia is also very, very large. Larger than the USA. It is 5.1 million square miles and the US is 3.7 million. So, "Siberia" is not a very descriptive term. In that large of area with that large of temperature fluctuation, the chances of tornadoes happening is actually very high.
- Elizabeth498, on 09/09/2008, -1/+0Dug for the freaky factor.
- cjmal, on 09/09/2008, -0/+3Once again - tornadoes can happen anywhere in the world. There isn't some special safe place where they don't happen. *****, there's even been tornadoes in Alaska.
Edit: And technically, this is a waterspout. - reyalp, on 09/09/2008, -0/+3rampant speculation ITT
- Warptaco, on 09/09/2008, -0/+3Tornadoes are extremely rare up north but they do happen.
On this page there are couple pictures (scroll down) of tornado damage in Finland in 1932:
http://www.sci.fi/%7Efmbb/storms/tornados.htm
Later its strength was estimated at F3 (the damage on the pictures was probably caused by lesser intensity).
Waterspouts and lesser rotations do occur pretty often up here. But tornadoes are rare. - kevinoakes, on 09/09/2008, -2/+0I think that global warming is one of the problem for climate change and tornado's. I hope that we can make a change. Sincerely Planet Earth.
- nixfu, on 09/09/2008, -1/+2
This year (2008) appears set to be the coolest globally this century.- Peko, on 09/09/2008, -1/+1Are you being ironic or stupid? So hard to tell these days.
- LPhilM, on 09/09/2008, -0/+2its just a coincidence
- Kronomancer, on 09/09/2008, -0/+2You guys know how to use "the Google" so get to it.
From a book about tornadoes:
http://books.google.ca/books?id=NuP7ATq9nWgC&pg=PA ...
Now look at the page immediately following the distribution map.
And then there's Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tornado_climatology
Siberia isn't high on any of these lists but you have to remember: tornadoes generally need to be seen to be reported. And Siberia constitutes nearly 10% of the land area of our planet in an area where different air masses mix and collide. Of course tornadoes occur there. - Grin23, on 09/09/2008, -0/+0does global warming exist? yes
is this a symptom of global warming? of course
is global warming caused by human activity?
quoting King George II of the house of Bush
"does it matter? we're all gonna be dead anyways." - majordanger, on 09/09/2008, -0/+1What a beautiful perfectly vertical water spout !!! About as straight as a power pole too.
This whimp will break up if it ever hits land. - republicker, on 09/09/2008, -0/+1Waterspouts don't "slash through the Siberian woods.
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