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Cops Bust a (Root) Beer Kegger Party

neatorama.com — When his friends got suspended from school sports because of photos showing them drinking from red cups, Dustin Zebro decided to mount a protest of sorts: he invited scores of kids to a kegger party, which got busted by the cops. But the kids got the last laugh, and here’s why:

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  • billlyboobs34, on 03/31/2008, -16/+51110:1 says kids called cops on themselves for the video
    • mccartyba, on 03/31/2008, -20/+17310:1 says that the kids that got suspended from sports were drinking alcohol.
      • BoneheadFarker, on 03/31/2008, -5/+26410:1 says that drinking from a red cup is not enough evidence to say that they were drinking alcohol.
        • NoCt1, on 03/31/2008, -8/+15510:1 says enough with the 10:1
        • nominalgeek, on 03/31/2008, -14/+163But automagically once you turn 21, alcohol becomes good! I think this part of American's truely messed double standard needs to be reevaluated!
          • daRoach, on 03/31/2008, -84/+7The legal drinking age needs to be raised.
          • luciferin, on 03/31/2008, -8/+37@ nominalgeek: How is the 18 year old drinking age in other parts of the world absolve them from this "double standard"?
          • nominalgeek, on 03/31/2008, -3/+87It needs to lowered!

            Alcohol needs to be de-romanticized to teenagers. Kids needs to realize that booze in moderation is okay, but what happens when kids turn 21 or go to college and are free of parental overlords, they go crazy with the booze. If we as children are exposed to it sooner and without this stupid it's bad (unless your over 21), we'll continue to have this problem.
          • bitterbug, on 03/31/2008, -5/+43@daRoach.
            Good idea. And while you're raising the drinking age, why not raise the minimum age for military service, as well as the age at which you must start paying taxes. Oh, don't forget to raise the age at which people are considered adults for matters of criminal prosecution.
          • nominalgeek, on 03/31/2008, -3/+21@luciferin: It doesn't mostly. But you miss my *point*, that something that bad one day, then good the next because your age ticked over 21 years doesn't make sense at 10 years old, 12 years old, 18 years old, 21 years old, or 25 years old... If it's bad it's bad at 18 years it's bad at 21 years, if it's good at 22 years then it's good at 19 years.
          • form3hide, on 03/31/2008, -32/+8@nominalgeek

            we booze in college because college is stressful... it has nothing to do with the drinking age...
          • nominalgeek, on 03/31/2008, -4/+11@form3hide

            You also miss my point. That the age limit on alcohol is arbitrary...
          • bumb1ebee, on 03/31/2008, -1/+35I personally don't think there needs to be a minimum drinking age at all. It should be the parents' responsibility to look over their kids and make sure they aren't drinking too much. My mom has let me drink tiny amounts of alcohol since I was around 13 years old and she let me know that drinking alcohol is OK as long as it was in moderation. I honestly think her allowing me to drink has played a part in why I've never been irresponsible with alcohol.
          • iii9ix3, on 03/31/2008, -5/+24@form3hide

            Thats so much *****. College kids drink to get drunk and laid. People who are stressed in college dont have time to drink, we have to do homework. Something you [insert liberal arts major here] don't have.
          • spyrochaete, on 03/31/2008, -0/+17I think nominalgeek has the right idea. I think, for similar reasons, we should get rid of the concept of last call as well. Here in Toronto alcohol cannot be served past 2:00am for some unfathomable reason. So what does everyone in the city do? They order 3 drinks at 1:50, drink them, and then go home shortly after. So we get every drunk driver on the roads at the same time.

            Artificial limits on the consumption of alcohol (amongst other things) has exactly the effect nominalgeek says - it gives people the idea that such and such is terrible until an invisible threshold is crossed, at which point this thing is perfectly acceptable.
          • nominalgeek, on 03/31/2008, -1/+3@idslite
            I'm 24 as my profile says. I drink Belgium white ales, ipas (i love fullers ipa), dark stouts, trappist ales, and the local ny/li microbrews.
            @form3hide
            I'm a student at a very competitive university in ny. I don't know how much free time you must have when you're stressed at school to get drink to excess, you must have alot of free time. You must be a sociology major or a leisure arts major.
          • rspeed, on 03/31/2008, -3/+21"we booze in college because college is stressful"

            HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! *deep breath* HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
          • glasnostic, on 03/31/2008, -1/+6nominal

            yes, true, its a little funny that one day a person can't drink and the next they can, but thats just a product of the fact that we celebrate birthdays. everything that involves dates has the same problems.

            one day your income tax is one thing, the next its different. one day you are too young to be elected president, and the next you are the right age.. one day you are 30 years old and the next you are 31.. its just the way these things called "years" and "days" tend to work.

            the hope, is that on average, those "arbitrary" numbers will work better then any other "arbitrary" number.
          • form3hide, on 03/31/2008, -4/+3So you guys that dont have time to drink -- you're studying all weekend? every hour of the night? friday night, saturday night, sunday night?

            *****. if so, you're ***** missing out on life. i'm not downplaying studying, it certainly helps to get good grades and thus, a great job... but there's an equal balance... go out and enjoy your life, too
          • philipl411, on 03/31/2008, -2/+3Strange, isn't the legal drinking age in the UK 18? they have a bigger drinking problem than we do.
          • MWeather, on 03/31/2008, -0/+9I like Greece's drinking age: 0
            When I was an exchange student at 15, the other kids thought I was weird for wantoing to go get drunk. Alcohol was nothing special to them.
          • shinigami052, on 03/31/2008, -0/+1Your argument makes too much sense...it'll never work.
          • L4WL3RS34L, on 03/31/2008, -3/+1Most of the world has a drink age of 18, and they are doing a lot better then the US.
          • iii9ix3, on 04/01/2008, -0/+2@form3hide

            so alcohol = life? hmmm.... i seem to have missed that somewhere... and yes, 90% of the time that I'm not in class, sleeping or eating is consumed doing homework/studying. The other time is spent exercising/playing sports.
    • CoolWind, on 03/31/2008, -5/+110The worst part about this episode is the cops still maintain they did the right thing. Now that's just dumb. Once you see kids are drinking root beer, it's time to abort the mission.
      • caoimhinn, on 03/31/2008, -23/+12Maybe--but in their experience (and mine)--a house full of people with red cups usually means a party with alcohol. I don't think you can really blame them for their skepticism.
        • oderdigg, on 03/31/2008, -6/+20Usually is not enough to convict.

          To quote the infamous Karl Rove, "nice try"
        • 4degrees, on 03/31/2008, -5/+31so if you see a house full of not so white folk, they must be having a car-jackers meeting right?
          • Nesh, on 03/31/2008, -0/+25They have meetings?
          • strictnein, on 03/31/2008, -1/+7Are there dues you have to pay?
          • gh0st3000, on 03/31/2008, -1/+2Where else are people going to go for car-jacking tips? The internet?
          • danomagnum, on 03/31/2008, -0/+5@ strictnein
            only if you join the union.
        • brufleth, on 04/01/2008, -0/+2@oderdigg
          Ever try to fight a speeding ticket?
          "Usually" is exactly enough as far as the judge is concerned even if the officer statement doesn't check out and there is no radar reading or other evidence to convict.
          "All underage people get drunk at parties" and "all people speed" are just accepted.

          You can apply the same thing to many issues big and small. The whole "innocent until proven guilty" thing is a lie.
      • dagamer34, on 03/31/2008, -2/+68Ah, you see, if a nerd ever got invited, he'd suggest buying BLUE cups. Then the cops would never come!
        • Protoss, on 03/31/2008, -1/+13Thanks for the clever idea....
        • LankySmurf, on 03/31/2008, -0/+12Everything tastes different if the cup's not red
      • nominalgeek, on 03/31/2008, -6/+32Cops could beat the ***** out of an innocent man, put someone in jail for legally recording their activity while they are behaving illegally, shoot a man wielding a hammer 34 times... THEY WILL ALWAYS MAINTAIN THEY DID THE RIGHT THING!

        Because the life of a cop, is worth 10 times more then the life of someone who isn't a cop The truth is, in most rural areas... cops are just as much as hick, and the people they live with.
        • AlienClown, on 03/31/2008, -13/+1put someone in jail for legally recording their activity while they are behaving illegally ... they are still behaving illegally ? Then they are stupid for providing evidence.
          • nominalgeek, on 03/31/2008, -2/+13**put someone in jail for legally recording their activity while they(THEY BEING THE COPS THEMSELVES) are behaving illegally**

            aka illegal search and seizure of property, beating up on keys skate boarding, etc etc
          • dubloe7, on 04/01/2008, -0/+1"beating up on keys skate boarding"
            I don't understand that phrase.
          • nominalgeek, on 04/01/2008, -1/+0"beating up on *kids* skate boarding". Sorry, didn't catch that.
        • kinseyincanada, on 03/31/2008, -2/+5they just tried to bust up a house party that at first glance had a keg...its not a big deal, house parties get broken up all the time be it a noise complaint or something.
          • jpmoney03, on 03/31/2008, -1/+7Exactly, a party can be broken up for being loud even if all the people are 21 and up.
          • brufleth, on 04/01/2008, -0/+2That "noise complaint" issue is often weak. In high school I went to a party at a friend's house. It was mostly high school kids but it was also sort of a family affair. I believe his parents and one or two teachers were there too. There was alcohol but it was only being consumed by people over 21 and there was music but everyone who lived within a quarter mile was either there or was family (they're a large family and all live near each other).

            Point is, nobody had made a complaint and nothing illegal was going on. Cops still showed up and harassed the hosts and were bitches in general. They had probably just been driving by and saw young people having a good time and figured something illegal was going on. The problem isn't even that they wanted to investigate. The problem is that with no real evidence to anything wrong going on they handled themselves like total dicks.

            Had they simply shown up and said, "Just checking that everyone is being safe," or something positive like that we probably would have given them a burger and sent them on their way. There might not be so much illegal activity in this country if the expectation wasn't there that they were breaking the law anyway.
        • HavenBastion, on 03/31/2008, -1/+2I'm not sure whether to digg you up for the truth of the first paragraph or down for the implication of the second. their lives are certainly not worth any more than anyone else, i can only guess/hope you're being sarcastic.

          At any rate, unless they saw the keg AND someone acting drunk, they did not have probable cause to be there, they invaded every single one of those kids' rights.
      • DigDugDigger, on 03/31/2008, -0/+23Cops: ITS A TRAP!
    • scoutmasterEd, on 03/31/2008, -3/+1If so, they could get prosecuted!
      • Abomonog, on 04/01/2008, -0/+1What sucks is that they could get potentially prosecuted for "appearing to commit a crime".

        It's an actual law in most states that you can be arrested for appearing to commit a crime even though you are not. Police very rarely enforce it but I do know a fellow who got busted doing tobacco bongs in public once. He didn't get busted for having the bong. He got busted because it appeared he was doing drugs and it attracted attention.
        I don't think the kids called the cops. But I think whoever did actually though it was a beer party.
    • insomniac8400, on 03/31/2008, -5/+2Definitely not. Clearly the cops are retards and whoever called them should be in jail for a few years.
    • boogie606, on 03/31/2008, -6/+1rotten kids...
    • VinnieDaMac, on 03/31/2008, -0/+4"Ok the cops are gone, bring out the beer."
      Funny thing is that the kid probably WAS drinking beer in that original photo that got him suspended.
    • po43292, on 03/31/2008, -5/+29:1 This is old. I never call out old stories but bury me anyway.
    • Tyrghast, on 03/31/2008, -3/+2the cop was probably a dad of one of the kids and in on the joke.
    • addicted68098, on 03/31/2008, -2/+3I am 16 and I live at the other side of Milwaukee and cops take parties way to seriously to the extent to pull people over on the basis that they are going to a party. Nearly a majority of people at my school smoke marijuana, 6 people will pack into a car and it is dangerous.
      • Abomonog, on 04/01/2008, -0/+1Depends on the car. 6 people in a Celica is dangerous. 6 people in most American made models is what they are rated to carry and therefor safe.

        addicted68098: You mean the Milwaukee cops actually leave Brady Street these days?
    • thebigdudee, on 04/03/2008, -0/+0I live in the area, and if you read the article it is because of cars down the street. there were like fifty cars down it.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfQCE2917NE
      The weren't trying to get the cops they were trying to get the school to notice.
  • TomK88, on 03/31/2008, -11/+194Cops are likely going to be after these kids hard after this. Watch another story come out two weeks from now saying they busted a real kegger these kids were having and charged everybody with the maximum they could.
    • angusmancan, on 03/31/2008, -4/+178COP: Hey kid, don't you know your tail light is broken?
      KID:Whaddya mean, it's not broken.
      *crack*
      COP:Your tail light's broken, that'll be a $200 dollar ticket...Have a nice day
      • positron, on 03/31/2008, -4/+63I Don't know which is more sad: That this kind of behavior is what people expect from the police, or that it's a true depiction of police thug behavior.
        • nominalgeek, on 03/31/2008, -3/+11The problem is Cops think of themselves as more the SIMPLE enforcers of LAW.
          • strictnein, on 03/31/2008, -1/+28RANDOM words capitalized ARE annoying to READ
          • danielsamuels, on 03/31/2008, -4/+2Agreed.

            Oh.. wait..
        • form3hide, on 03/31/2008, -11/+15i've never heard of cops doing such a thing besides in movies, tv shows, and the like.
          • Ryosen, on 04/02/2008, -0/+1"You've got a busted taillight. That's a $50 fine in Hazzard County"
        • dgendreau, on 03/31/2008, -1/+23"i've never heard of cops doing such a thing besides in movies, tv shows, and the like."

          Well lucky you. I have an "Impeach Bush.org" bumper sticker on my car hand have been harassed by cops several times over it. They even gave me a ticket for being 2 weeks late updating my address with the DMV after I moved. I think all the cops in my area are Republican redneck fascist dicks.
          • eshiki, on 03/31/2008, -1/+13Why didn't you update your address?

            /sarcasm
          • willdelaney, on 03/31/2008, -5/+2well you're asking for it...
          • nominalgeek, on 03/31/2008, -2/+1It's a rule of life, most people are assholes to people they don't know. Those same people bitch and complain the most when they get treated like *****.
          • Haroshia, on 03/31/2008, -3/+6"Republican redneck fascist dicks."

            Redundant.
          • dcollins, on 03/31/2008, -9/+4Oooh "Fascist". Somebody has been using their word-a-day calendar!
          • form3hide, on 03/31/2008, -10/+1You're implying that because you have a a bumper sticker on your car, they gave you a ticket?

            Why were you pulled over in the first place?

            You were late updating your address. You're supposed to keep them up to date. Stop trying to make this into something it's not.
          • HavenBastion, on 03/31/2008, -1/+2yeah, fascism doesn't really apply here, fascism is the melding of state and business
          • Jawsh91, on 03/31/2008, -4/+2digg
            me
            down
          • GliTCH82, on 03/31/2008, -0/+2I would have cared more if they didn't have a reason to pull you over, but as it is, regardless of whether it had to do with your bumper sticker or not, you gave them a reason to. So it's entirely your fault.
        • fotbr, on 03/31/2008, -0/+11@form3hide
          It happens in the more rural areas of the country. It comes down to the school bully becoming a cop, having no oversight, and no repercussions of any sort.
      • gwinerreniwg, on 03/31/2008, -1/+2I think most cops are hypocritical fascists too, but has this REALLY happened to anyone? Have you ever TRIED to break out a tail light? Its a lot harder than it sounds.
        • Abomonog, on 04/01/2008, -0/+2No it's not. That steel button on the short end of a billy club is designed specifically for breaking glass, plastic. etc...etc...
      • Hoogs, on 03/31/2008, -1/+2Reminds me of the movie "Walking Tall" where The Rock does that. Man I love that movie.
        • rrasco, on 03/31/2008, -2/+1You don't say? Maybe because that is exactly what happened.
    • Nerys, on 03/31/2008, -16/+7Thats when My car acidentally jumps into reverse and I say Oops is your crusier damaged. I guess when you smacked my tail light you must have jarred something that screwed with my transmission. Good job. Or just get out and beat the piss out of him. All this sound stupid ? it should just as stupid as the idea of a cop doing this :-) Remember they do have those dashboard camera's :-)
      • CedEx, on 03/31/2008, -0/+10Not every precinct has dashboard cameras...
        • mcphatty, on 03/31/2008, -0/+8and those that do, dont always turn them on.
        • publiclurker, on 03/31/2008, -0/+4Or they fail at strangely unfortunate times.
      • snowpatrol, on 03/31/2008, -0/+10I think we got ourselves a wise-ass, boys!
      • Abomonog, on 04/01/2008, -0/+1Many precincts don't have the cameras yet and most rural ones refuse to equip them.
    • gernblansted, on 03/31/2008, -3/+32United States of Control. I used to go to school in Germany. At 16-17 years old, we had class parties, often at the teachers house. The teacher would host the party, and buy the alcohol. We would sit around talking and drinking beer and wine with our teachers. The transportation was all figured out beforehand, so no one drove drunk (plus being an advanced non-US country, they had relatively unbelievable public transportation opportunities). No one got out of hand. In fact, even at regular parties not put on by the teachers but the students themselves, I never once witnessed anything like what I've seen in the states when young people drink at parties, which to many American youth is a culturally defined excuse to make an ass of themselves.

      It's cultural, and by treating older teens and even LEGAL ADULTS like children in the US, the US creates a 'common belief' that teens/young adults are too immature to drink alcohol and turns it into a concrete reality.

      I've seen it happen responsibly (even if there are a few exceptions, there always are), and I don't believe it can't be the same in the USA, that American young adults are just too incapable and European young adults have some special gene or something which makes them more responsible.

      18 and over should be legal to drink at the very least, and there are schools of thought that say it's really unconstitutional to discriminate against adults in this way.
      • nitrojunky24, on 03/31/2008, -2/+7the problem is that hear we treat them teenagers like children not adults so they act like it.
      • rolf, on 03/31/2008, -0/+6What gernblansted says is true. But also the sad thing is Germany is importing the stupid American standards and customs along with the good ones in all what they do: from minor things like store hours (Evenings & Sundays almost nothing used to be open - family friendly), to business management (mobbing they call it) to locking down the cigarette vending machines (need a type of card) and raising the drinking age.

        Thanks stupid politicians! Protect the children! Yeah, right. It used to have less accidents on the highway than most countries of the world and now thanks to TV drinking is becoming a problem in Germany because of television - where people start emulating the stupidity they see on TV including acting like asses and drinking your brains out at parties.

        This repressive type of society with the youth rebelling and lashing out like asshats when left alone (along with customs like hazing, etcetera), originally all came from England by the way. No, thanks, but I think I'll pass on Puritan society.
        • GliTCH82, on 03/31/2008, -1/+2Let me get this straight, you're upset because German society is emulating American society as a result of your kids watching American TV?
      • gwinerreniwg, on 03/31/2008, -0/+1I've seen too many examples of young drunk germans misbehaving to believe your example represents all German drinking behavior, any more than "kegger parties" represents all American drinking behavior. The fact is in any culture there are responsible and irresponsible uses of alcohol and other substances. I will agree on this point: the more you teach youngsters how to act responsibly, the more they will, and as rolf says, I'll pass on the Puritanical view too!
      • Hoogs, on 03/31/2008, -0/+2You see, here in the US, drinking alcohol when younger than 21 is against the law, no matter what, and is therefore punishable.
        Even if all the transportation plans in the world are made, it's still illegal.
        • gernblansted, on 04/01/2008, -0/+2Although this is now an old thread and no one is left to read this, I just thought you should be corrected because most people believe the same thing you do.

          It is legal for a minor to drink in Wisconsin, even in a bar, as long as a parent is present and purchases the alcohol. Not too surprising when you consider a typical small town in WI will have a store or two, several churches, and a dozen or more bars.

          http://blog.laborlawtalk.com/2006/09/29/underage-c ...

          "In Wisconsin, purchase, possession or consumption of alcohol by anyone under 21 is against the law, with some significant exceptions. Individuals under 21 may be served alcohol with their parent’s consent. The parent must be present when alcohol is being consumed. This makes Wisconsin one of only a handful of states, along with Texas and Washington, where a minor may legally consume alcohol in a bar with their parents. It is still illegal for minors to purchase alcohol, so the parent must buy the liquor for their child."
          • Hoogs, on 04/01/2008, -0/+1I stand corrected. Thanks for the info.
      • Abomonog, on 04/01/2008, -0/+1In Germany there is no set drinking age. Drinking is based on cognitive ability there (or used to be).
    • joeanon, on 03/31/2008, -4/+4More likely the cops are humiliated and can easily be tricked into further abuse of their powers.

      In the wired world cops are no longer the only ones with video and distribution capability.

      Sounds like the kids here are ready for police abuse, plus they are underage so there is very little the cops can really do, beside humiliate themselves.

      Most cops are VERY EASY to lead into traps because most are underachieving authoritarians. Jocks, bullies and sometimes those picked on love this type of work that seems to offer them power. No wonder police and athletes both enjoy abusing steroids and other muscle enhancers.
  • Seanmu13, on 03/31/2008, -8/+324Right after the cops left they should have just brought out the real keg they were hiding in the closet
    • BigLLamasHouse, on 03/31/2008, -2/+30yeah dude, its all about the secret keg. i have to be drunk to talk to cops anyway
    • fxu1989, on 03/31/2008, -1/+36They should've tasered all the kids for drinking root beer.
    • Myonosken, on 03/31/2008, -2/+11Why were they all acting so ***** stupid if they weren't drunk? if they were high, they're running a fine line. If they are just idiots, I hate them.
  • rancemo, on 03/31/2008, -19/+170I don't see why anyone cooperated. They should have just asked the cops to leave, since they obviously had NOTHING ON THESE KIDS. It would have been much better if they roughed up a few of them, and then found out nobody was drinking....
    • diskit, on 03/31/2008, -6/+64Obviously they wanted to PROVE to the police that they had nothing on them.
      That was the whole point.
      • spyrochaete, on 03/31/2008, -1/+17Yeah, they're doing America a favour by encouraging cops' "guilty until proven innocent" mentality. In my opinion they'd have done better to assert their rights and, as rancemo says, said to the police "May I ask why you wish to enter my home? No, there's no alcohol here. Is there anything else? No? Then have a nice night, officer."
        • Twag86, on 03/31/2008, -1/+2yea because someone saying that they are not commiting a crime totally means they are innocent...
      • moush, on 03/31/2008, -2/+2After they already got caught once for drinking right? Wasting police resources is a crime.
        • EllimistX, on 03/31/2008, -0/+4No one asked the cops to go....
        • diskit, on 04/02/2008, -0/+1Then the police should arrest themselves.
    • KillerLettuce, on 03/31/2008, -19/+9Why wouldn't you cooperate, especially if there's nothing to worry about. If the kids made a big deal about the cops being there, they would have gotten in trouble. By cooperating, the cops allowed them to continue doing what they were doing.
      • vikingdiplomat, on 03/31/2008, -1/+20would have gotten in trouble for.... what?
        • halleyscomet, on 03/31/2008, -13/+5"Resisting Arrest" is the usual charge in these situations.
        • Cannon49, on 03/31/2008, -1/+17Arrest for ... what?
          • ToadLeg, on 03/31/2008, -16/+5Arrest for not following a police officer's orders, which they have the right to give in order to do an investigation to make sure that an event, that looks extremely similar to ones that involve underage drinking, does not actually involve underage drinking.
          • orangefly, on 03/31/2008, -1/+13so you're saying a cop has a right to order you to let them into your home with no warrant....???....
            then why the warrant system....???....
          • Twag86, on 03/31/2008, -0/+3For obstructing an officer. They had a right to investigate a group of people who appeared to be commiting a crime. it would be the same if some one was carrying a fake gun. no it not illeagle, but its still worth taking a look at.
      • spyrochaete, on 03/31/2008, -1/+2Why should you mind being spied on if you have nothing to hide? Police know their rights and they are trained to hide their motives. They can only search private property if you invite them in or admit to a crime, so they will use words to encourage you to do one of those things. If you make cops aware that you know your rights and you refuse their request to search your private property without a warrant then they will go away, easy as that.
        • nominalgeek, on 03/31/2008, -2/+2They typically bully people into doing what ever they say... if you push your quote unquote /rights/ they only push that much harder, and will call in more of their friends to come "protect you"
          • spyrochaete, on 03/31/2008, -0/+2I'd think their friends had better things to do than pressure a law-abiding citizen who is exercising his rights. You should always be courteous to the police (use a calm tone, keep your hands visible) but also assert that you know the rules they play by and you're going to hold them to it. As long as you abide by the law, even if a cop arrests you you'll still be found innocent later. Cops can only apprehend, they cannot judge (unless they kill you).
        • StinkBait, on 03/31/2008, -0/+2That would be nice, in a perfect world. Unfortunately, with all the laws on the books, I'm sure they can be arrested for *some* infraction, and then the cops can perform a search incident to arrest. This is the loophole that is used to search cars on the side of the interstate, since speeding is technically an arrestable offense.
    • ToadLeg, on 03/31/2008, -20/+10Legally, police have the right to enter a party big enough to be called an "open party" (the house sort of becomes a public area, like the inside of a mall) so you can't just ask them to leave.
      • rancemo, on 03/31/2008, -1/+21Your logic is seriously flawed. As public servants they have no rights, only privileges. This house is private property, which all guests were INVITED. Without reasonable suspicion, an imminent threat, or a search warrant, these cops had nothing to justify their presence. I doubt any judge would uphold "Red Cups" as sufficient evidence for forcing breath tests.
        • vincekiessling, on 03/31/2008, -18/+3There were a ***** of teenagers at a house without any adults, having a party, lots of cups and stupid people everywhere. You are telling me that if you drove by that house you would not assume alcohol was present? Its not like the cops tasering them or trying to pin anything on them. And there is no evidence to suggest the cops illegally entered the house anyway. The kids are douchebags that most likely invited them inside to get a cool video. That being said I would have done the same thing as the kids if i was there, and if i was a cop I would have stopped in to see what was going on. The school system is to blame for unjust decision-making, not the cops this time.
          • spyrochaete, on 03/31/2008, -1/+9The job of the police is to detect, not to assume.
      • Nerys, on 03/31/2008, -2/+13Then I would be arrested for resisting arrest. I DECIDE what is open and what is not open. Not the police. I simply would not recognize that "legal right" No stipulation in the constitution permits them to make such a declaration. The Constitution 100% trumps "local laws" Arbitrarily declaring a party "open" so you can bypass the 4th amendment should NOT fly in this country. Period. Call me a jerk but if I were having a party short of VALID probable cause the only way a legal declaration of "open party" is getting police into my house is by brutal force since they are not strong enough to remove me with non brutal force. I would never harm a cop not only is it silly but they do by and large have a pretty selfless job. They are also however NOT permitted to violate my rights. At least I will not let them voluntarily do so. They are going to have to hurt me for it. There choice not mine. The Constitution sealed my choice.
        • AnarkeIncarnate, on 03/31/2008, -0/+1Actually the Constitution restricts the rights of the government. They would have been breaching your rights in many civil ways at the local, state and federal level. The ACLU might have even wanted to get involved.
      • capiCrimm, on 03/31/2008, -0/+5no they don't. Anyone can let the cops in, however, if the house owner asks the cops to leave they have to. You can also posts signs specifically refusing entrance to police.

        The cops have no legal right to be there unless you allow it. If you watch and restrict who's entering and leaving the party you have every right to disallow people to enter.
    • diadem2, on 03/31/2008, -2/+24if you piss off the cops too much, they can FIND something to charge you with
      • blindmonkey, on 03/31/2008, -0/+20Yes.... "find"..... by which I suppose you mean "plant".
        • praisethelard, on 06/06/2008, -0/+23Just sprinkle a little crack on it.
      • rancemo, on 03/31/2008, -2/+9But it most likely will never hold up in court. Sorry, but I refuse to comply when no wrong has been done. That's just not how a free society works.
        • fotbr, on 03/31/2008, -0/+9It holds up fine when the judge is the sherrif's brother-in-law.
        • orangefly, on 03/31/2008, -0/+4brother-in-law/cousin
        • Entroper, on 03/31/2008, -0/+3Motion for change of venue.
      • d03boy, on 03/31/2008, -3/+2going outside of their house and cutting their cable and phoneline wires in half is a fun way to get revenge
      • dbz253, on 03/31/2008, -2/+1welcome to amerika
    • Repsac, on 03/31/2008, -3/+12Police were responding to a noise complaint most likely (which is how and why cops get called to parties). You can get fined for disturbing the peace by being too loud (the officer even had to tell them to be quiet twice). So to go as far as saying the police had nothing on them...sure they did, but because of the kids cooperation (and obviously the lack of any alcohol) the police probably gave them a warning about the noise. Done and done.

      On another note, the kid being suspended from school for a picture of him drinking out of a red cup? That sounds like theres more details missing from the actual situation, but if not...that's a horrible school system.
      • Twag86, on 03/31/2008, -2/+1The kids were not suspended from school. They were banned from a dance team.
    • mal1964, on 03/31/2008, -1/+3It was just a front for a vodka and root-beer party.
    • insomniac8400, on 03/31/2008, -5/+3Yes, they failed by not telling the cops to shove it. They should have riled the cops up. That way they could have sued or gotten them fired.
      • fajitamelt, on 03/31/2008, -0/+6Yeah, but the kind of people who do that are what we call "douche bags."
    • identitymatrix, on 03/31/2008, -1/+1well since they were trying to be nice to the cops I hope they offered them some root beer and invited them to the upcoming keg party at the principle's house ;P.
    • Tommydukes, on 03/31/2008, -2/+4So now you want the police to rough people up just so the police can look bad????

      You want people to get HURT for no reason...just so you can complain about it???

      You are worse than any cop I know???
    • j33buscr1p3s, on 03/31/2008, -2/+1I mean if they really wanted to "protest" they should have all refused breathalyzers and made the cops drag everyone to a hospital for a blood test.
  • mavicyp, on 03/31/2008, -5/+286that's some fine police work there, Lou
    • Tenshi12, on 03/31/2008, -1/+28Ah Chief Wiggum... if only more cops were like him.
    • saxreturns, on 03/31/2008, -2/+88"Bake 'em away, toys..."
      • gkwillie, on 03/31/2008, -0/+26It also says putting squirrels down your pants for the purposes of gambling is illegal..... Alright boys, you gotta stop
    • Protoss, on 03/31/2008, -1/+23Hey Chief, can I hold my gun sideways?
    • dannyboy3020, on 03/31/2008, -0/+19Take him into custardy, boys!
    • deaconyermouf, on 03/31/2008, -1/+15"Looks like there's beer coming out of the chimney!"
      "I am proceeding on foot; call in a code eight!"
      "We need pretzels, repeat, pretzels!"
    • thaglove10, on 03/31/2008, -1/+12Chief: That's some good work Lou, you'll make Sargent for this one day.
      Lou: Uhhh, I already am Sargent chief.
      Chief: Quiet Lou, or I will bust you down to Sargent so fast it will make your head spin
    • DrZocktahedron, on 03/31/2008, -0/+10"Chief, I think there was a dead body in there."
      "Yeah, me too, until he said 'yard trimmings'.You gotta learn to listen, Lou"
    • Magunga, on 03/31/2008, -1/+1At first I thought that was a Fargo quote. And I thought it was really funny because the kids in the video had midwest accents. Oops.
      • charli2na, on 03/31/2008, -0/+1I'm not sure I agree with you a hundred percent on your police work, there, Lou. - Fargo
  • reaper527, on 03/31/2008, -53/+2who plays beirut without alcohol? lame, they where already suspended from sports, what did they have to lose
    • angusmancan, on 03/31/2008, -2/+37WHOOOSH

      that's the sound it makes when somebody misses the point
      • Jawoodyablowme, on 03/31/2008, -12/+0Um, yeah...errr...umm...I think you missed the point of the parent.
      • KennMac, on 03/31/2008, -8/+3You fail, for following it with an explanation.
        • Jawoodyablowme, on 03/31/2008, -15/+0If you're talking about me (Digg's comment system doesn't work well), then I'll explain.
          It's a ***** JOKE! GODDAMNIT! You people are soooo ***** serious! Jesus Mother ***** Christ! Goddamnit to hell! ***** A! Allah is a fag!
      • LMaxey, on 03/31/2008, -0/+3Most of these responses are made of fail and whooosh.
      • HavenBastion, on 03/31/2008, -0/+0and a hefty dose of blaargh. (i'd say about a cubic buttload)
    • NoCt1, on 03/31/2008, -4/+2beirut is kinda a weird band
      • HavenBastion, on 03/31/2008, -0/+2if by weird you mean "good" then yeah, they're pretty weird
    • Jackson0909, on 03/31/2008, -2/+12Do you mean beer pong?
      • beloitpiper, on 03/31/2008, -2/+5Beer pong involves paddles. Beirut is when you throw the ball into the cup.
        • reaper527, on 03/31/2008, -1/+4hey, someone gets it! i hear the two used interchangeably all the time
    • Edwaldo, on 03/31/2008, -1/+1You need to read sometimes, and not just the title... idiot
  • Falldog, on 03/31/2008, -3/+367It probably would've been easier just to drink from red cups all the time.

    ... Wait, they were suspended because photos showing them drinking from red cups? I love our ***** school system.
    • sgtpppr, on 03/31/2008, -4/+56Overreaction is the new American way. The ends never justify the means.
      • dcollins, on 03/31/2008, -0/+7Yea, tell me about it. Now we have to lock up our cough syrup so kids don't get high off it. WTF is that about....
    • nekochan, on 03/31/2008, -1/+28someone needs to stock some red plastic cups in the teacher's lounge.
    • kaelyiesta, on 03/31/2008, -2/+37Its not our school system. Its the entire system. This ***** up country is all about "good clean american youth". Police oppression and intrusion are just fine, but dont let jonny get a taste of that devil music and booze, he may start to think for himself and realize that all the propaganda is just that.

      It really makes no sense to call this country the home of the free. More free than some nations perhaps, but that doesn't really say much.
      • Protoss, on 03/31/2008, -2/+11Think for himself if he gets drunk? Not really....but I do get your point.
    • eigenweasel, on 03/31/2008, -0/+24"Busted by Cops" for consuming alcoholic beverages! The US attitude towards drink is crazy - lets hope there were no crimes being committed in Wisconsin while the police were invading private property and forcing children to be breath tested.

      What happens if a parent gives their child wine with a meal (as mine did from the age of about six or so)? Do armed Feds rappel through the windows or something?
      • LetsGoHokies, on 03/31/2008, -14/+4I am all for teaching kids about life etc, so they aren't sheltered and end up rebelling and overusing things they were forbidden from, but come on.....6 years old? I know it is accepted in a lot of places, but as a parent I couldn't give my 6 year old alcohol.
        • dracflamloc, on 03/31/2008, -0/+10he probably didnt mean full glasses...
          • eigenweasel, on 03/31/2008, -0/+3Quite right. It was 1/2 wine and 1/2 water to start, graduating to small glasses of wine over a few years.

            I can appreciate that a lot of parents would not do this, but I'll be doing the same for my (eventual) children as I can't think of any negative aspects of the practice. Teaching children that there is no mystique about drink and showing that it is always to be consumed responsibly is the best lesson they can have.

            I think what this taught me in a nutshell is that drinks which happen to contain alcohol are just foodstuffs, and one should no more drink to excess than one should eat fifteen chocolate bars in a sitting.

            Anyway, I'm off now for my nightcap of a quart of green Chartreuse.

            Only joking ;)
        • dpmcalli, on 03/31/2008, -0/+17In country's where alcohol is much less frequently abused, it is often consumed in small quantities with food. Making it the forbidden fruit must be the worst thing you can do to discourage a young person to drink
      • jpmoney03, on 03/31/2008, -0/+6Thats legal in a lot of states.
    • CarStan, on 03/31/2008, -0/+11Who's the company producing these red cups anyway? They must make zillions
    • Juice7, on 03/31/2008, -0/+5You think that's bad, you should talk to my friend who just got done with his 4 week suspension for having his own prescription headache pills in school...(I ***** you not.)
    • hinmanj, on 03/31/2008, -0/+1suspended from school sports...
    • retral, on 03/31/2008, -2/+1I'm betting there were beer cans/bottles lying around too. Usually the kids that whine about getting busted for "drinking from red cups" forget to mention that.
    • moush, on 03/31/2008, -0/+1I'm sure all the college kids are out drinking cokes in red cups at keggers.
  • jihadjohnson, on 03/31/2008, -23/+119"...student who wanted to show that teens don’t always drink alcohol at their parties."
    Hmm... thought that was the difference between party and lame ass boring get-together.
    • diskit, on 03/31/2008, -3/+15Obviously that's not the case.
    • surKaz, on 03/31/2008, -2/+7"just add alcohol"
    • khail250, on 03/31/2008, -3/+10its not gay if you hold a mans shlong with one hand, and a beer in another... its partying!
    • halleyscomet, on 03/31/2008, -1/+21If you fuel enough teenagers with Mt Dew, you still get a wild party.
      • Protoss, on 03/31/2008, -1/+35LAN Party FTW!
        • halleyscomet, on 04/24/2008, -0/+1Quake, Red Alert, Starcraft or Half Life?
      • MiDri, on 03/31/2008, -1/+10We've yet to find that sweet spot using mt dew that is between a girl having her clothes on and a diabetic coma... When we reach that, I will agree.
    • bjs3171, on 03/31/2008, -3/+3it is. these people are not straight.
    • VitriolAndAngst, on 03/31/2008, -0/+14I'm sure these kids drink booze all the time. They just pulled a "Karl Rove" on the police. In this case, its kind of cool. If they can keep their lives together, get school done, and have a job one day -- who cares? Sure there are some kids who do stupid things and we get a news story about every month about some terrible parents that let kids drink and they did something stupid. But we don't hear about all the non-incidents. Do we hear about all the "bored couch potatoes who never did anything in their lives" on the news? No. There isn't enough time in the day.

      I just wish we could be a bit less uptight and absolutist about these "morals" because the kids catch on, and figure we are total hypocrites and that's when they tune out everything. Because most of us old folks in charge are total hypocrites who did all these things at their age and survived just fine without a prison record. Who, besides the annoying uptight person you can't stand, never drank when they were teens?

      And no fair if you are one of the Osmonds.
    • rstarr, on 03/31/2008, -1/+13http://xkcd.com/37/

      "lame ass-boring"
      • postitnote, on 03/31/2008, -1/+6Don't think you'll get ass-boring without alcohol.
    • theuber1337, on 03/31/2008, -1/+12I just find it funny that you consider a get-together without drugs or alcohol to be "lame ass boring." It's not required to have a good time, man. Maybe you just need to find yourself some friends instead of just fellow party-goers and bros. I'm saying this and I've been drinking with some friends since Sunday afternoon.
      • BabaRamDass, on 03/31/2008, -2/+1I'd have to be drunk to stand the kids in the video...
    • oscenester, on 03/31/2008, -1/+1Its true! Most of the time we did drugs!
  • nblsavage, on 03/31/2008, -24/+18I love it...it shows the cops for the impotent jerks they really are.
    • lukemandese, on 03/31/2008, -5/+15Like they can't procreate?
      • lukemandese, on 03/31/2008, -1/+11come on guys that was pretty humorous...
        • Sherman901, on 03/31/2008, -1/+4i dug you up. yay, go me.

          i have to say though, i laughed out loud at work. :(
      • youreanelephant, on 03/31/2008, -0/+1yes, it was. I also laughed out loud at work and dugg you up with flourish!
        • lukemandese, on 03/31/2008, -0/+2lol, thank you, it made my day to see this get dugg up from the negatives.
    • ToadLeg, on 03/31/2008, -1/+9"I love it...it shows the school what jerks they really have been."
      fixed
    • Pittance, on 03/31/2008, -9/+2Stop being a dumbass, nblsavage, and maybe somebody will love you.
    • Xproject01, on 03/31/2008, -5/+0epic lulz, go look up the word impotent
      • nblsavage, on 03/31/2008, -2/+3"not potent : lacking in power" Sounds about right.
    • scoutmasterEd, on 03/31/2008, -4/+0Responding to a complaint make them impotent?/???????
  • jeremyduffy, on 03/31/2008, -35/+12The whole story at http://www.kansascity.com/450/story/551102.html :

    By the way, "A keg and drinking games inside" it says. So somehow the cops are wrong for treating it like a beer bash? How is staging a fake party doing everything you can to make it look like a drinking party a protest of the Red Cups story? If they really wanted to protest, they should have had everyone they know post picture on their blogs of themselves drinking different things (orange juice, milk, slim-fast, whatever) out of red cups to make the point that a picture and cup aren't evidence.

    All they've really done is prove that you can dress someone in a suit, tell them to lie down perfectly still with their eye's closed in a casket, and fool people into thinking they're dead. Congratulations.
    • pepemt, on 03/31/2008, -8/+9stfu
    • ToadLeg, on 03/31/2008, -1/+2You've actually got it exactly the opposite: The funny part is that they were just having a party. If they had done some fancy fake set up with drinks and photographers it wouldn't have meant much.
    • l2OI3, on 03/31/2008, -1/+10I like how you assume that everyone has 'blogs of themselves'
      • tehrich, on 04/01/2008, -0/+1He said pictures of themselves on their blogs. "post a picture of yourself on your blog" is the same as "post a picture on your blog of yourself."
        Also, they could have made blogs if they didn't have one already. I don't think he meant to say they all necessarily have one.
    • Hipple, on 03/31/2008, -0/+5The whole point was to make it look as much like a real kegger as possible. They were trying to show that appearance does not always equal reality. If the cop had been like their school, he would have just arrested them on the spot for having a party with a keg and red cups, without investigating whether there was actual alcohol involved (and that would be WRONG).
      • jeremyduffy, on 03/31/2008, -4/+3Which is my whole point. If you and a friend stage a mugging/murder on the street are you saying that a cop should wait and ask the guy with a gun if it's real before acting?
        • youreanelephant, on 03/31/2008, -1/+7Thats kind of taking it to an unnecessary extreme...
  • MikeonTV, on 03/31/2008, -6/+31I would need to be drinking to hang out with that lot!
    • jtmOBX, on 03/31/2008, -0/+7I dont think I can survive the amount of liquor it would take to be a party where people are singing Dashboard Confessional...
  • diskit, on 03/31/2008, -15/+6Direct link to vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfQCE2917NE

    4:07 FTW.
  • Nitrodist88, on 03/31/2008, -10/+97Guys, we can't have people drinking under a completely made up age limit.
    • mhuggins, on 03/31/2008, -0/+4Couldn't have said it better.
    • OneLess, on 03/31/2008, -0/+10Where would it end?! Get rid of that and they'd start questioning the arbitrary banning of certain drugs! The horror!
    • Twag86, on 03/31/2008, -1/+4Actually if you want a age limit with a reason try 25. the body starts processing alcohol differently at that age
  • surKaz, on 03/31/2008, -5/+36I never get the point.. Red freaking cups could be used for anything. Hell, I used red cups to drink water, pop (mostly pop) on a regular basis..
    But then again.. the kids tried their best to get the cops interested..
    I'm not sure if this was a successful protest (more like a prank) or whatever..
    • BryanG412, on 03/31/2008, -23/+2dugg for using the word pop, representing pittsburgh and all other cities that are too lazy to say the two-syllable word...soda, LET'S GO PENS!
    • briguymaine, on 03/31/2008, -21/+9dugg down for using "pop"

    • khail250, on 03/31/2008, -14/+3.
    • form3hide, on 03/31/2008, -19/+5its called soda.
      • spyrochaete, on 03/31/2008, -5/+2in one country on earth
      • surKaz, on 03/31/2008, -2/+9I know.. It's called Soda in some places, Pop in others and a lotta other stuff in a whole lotta places..
    • topiKal, on 03/31/2008, -2/+4I'm drinking water out of a red cup as I read this.

      But I understand the association: red dixie cups are the classic beer party cup.
    • minorthreat, on 03/31/2008, -1/+7What is this pop you speak of?
      • ahoyhoy, on 03/31/2008, -0/+1Whadda mean? Gotta have my Pops!
      • surKaz, on 03/31/2008, -1/+1You might hate me for this but...

        It's Pop from the phrase... "Pop, Lock, Drop it.."
        Something digged this way comes..
    • digitalunit, on 03/31/2008, -1/+6It's okay, surKaz, I drink pop. =)
    • RuthlessPirate, on 03/31/2008, -7/+2Pop was the term you used in the 50's, and soda just reminds me of people with a Midwestern accent. Just say coke, you damn yankees.
      • Vindexus, on 03/31/2008, -0/+12What if you aren't drinking Coke? What if it's a delicious orange pop?
      • zealeus, on 03/31/2008, -4/+1Phhht, I'm a Midwesterner, not a damn yankee. Get it straight, stupid hicks.
  • DeskFlyer, on 03/31/2008, -1/+60This story is a prime example of how some have adapted to assume the worst, yet still implement unwarranted action without consulting facts or the logic center in their brain first.
    • chanop, on 03/31/2008, -8/+1my head is spinning after reading all those confuzzled words
    • Pittance, on 03/31/2008, -7/+1Big party: noise violations. Known teenage house with huge party and probably publicized keggar (which is synonymous with alcohol no matter what is in it) and/or the kids call the cops on themselves. All that gives the police plenty of justification to investigate. Not charge, investigate. If it looks like beer, comes in a keg, and there are underage kids, damn straight you're getting breathalysed. Otherwise they will start making alcoholic root beer.
      • Frost9999, on 03/31/2008, -1/+4WHy do the police care if people are drinking at home, in private, at a party? If it was a pub, sure, or at the liquor store... but not at home.
      • fotbr, on 03/31/2008, -0/+4What kind of root beer looks like the type of beer high school students would be drinking (ie, cheap, pale, very little taste, mass-produced american beer)?
        • nominalgeek, on 03/31/2008, -2/+0That would involve a thought process... but we're a nation of knee jerk reactions. See: Recent history
      • Twag86, on 03/31/2008, -1/+1Finally someone who understands how things are supposed to work. From the comments on this page it seems like cops would only be able to arrest you if you were not only commiting the crime at that very moment, but also yelling at the top of your lungs that you were doing it
    • VitriolAndAngst, on 03/31/2008, -0/+9Well, that's why the brain-dead are attracted to Bureaucracy in the first place. They don't want to use their brains, and they want to get paid for it. Any sane person with a creative mind would go wonky in such an environment. I suppose authority and rules are compensation for a life of mediocrity and this is sort of the eternal struggle in the world.

      Get the greatest number of mediocre people supporting your flavor of despotism, and you win.
    • nedev, on 03/31/2008, -2/+3An avalanche of big words, aside from being ugly, can cover up what you're really saying. Your post could be in textbooks explaining that principle. Try translating everything you write into speaking language, that's the best way to find out if it makes sense.
      • DeskFlyer, on 04/01/2008, -2/+2Yeah, I love dumbing down everything I say so that people can understand me.

        /sarcasm
    • callmejordy265, on 04/01/2008, -0/+1America runs off the Big O notation
  • pepemt, on 03/31/2008, -25/+5187 ON A MOTHA!@#$%IN COP
  • CYG101, on 03/31/2008, -31/+1But the kids got the last laugh, and here’s why:
    Cars lining the street. A house full of young people. A keg and drinking games inside. Police thought they had an underage boozing party on their hands.
    But though they made dozens of teens take breath tests, none tested positive for alcohol. That’s because the keg contained root beer.
    The party was held by a high school student who wanted to show that teens don’t always drink alcohol at their parties.
    • chanop, on 03/31/2008, -0/+20THANKS! I was totally confused by the article and video
    • halleyscomet, on 03/31/2008, -0/+9Home made root beer, if carbonated using yeast instead of gas, still contains 0.05% alcohol!

      Moral outrage from hyperactive helicopter parents in 5... 4... 3...
  • sailadayaway, on 03/31/2008, -1/+44*****, my school used to use red cups for any beverage vending, was that illegal? I had no idea...

    edit: I thought about it, my school used blue cups, my mistake.
    • buddamus, on 03/31/2008, -0/+1Why is it always red cups?
      is that the most common type of disposable cup in America or something
      The cups are in allot of teen movies iv seen
      • anarchyinthekr, on 03/31/2008, -0/+10it's definitely the most common color of solo cups...they have other colors but they're just not as fun
      • girlpirate, on 04/01/2008, -0/+1I've actually seen red cups advertised as "Beer Cups" on the packaging itself. Never any other colour. very strange indeed.
    • jun2san, on 03/31/2008, -0/+7wow.....you really saved yourself from embarrassment. That 120 second edit time gets pretty intense doesn't it?
  • theskyisblue, on 03/31/2008, -19/+6one word: pwnd
  • GeneHACKman, on 03/31/2008, -31/+5So what were they drinking in those 'red cups' that got them suspended in the first place, huh? My bet is alcohol. And if that's the case, what exactly did they prove?
    • rhino369, on 03/31/2008, -0/+14That a picture of a red cup isn't proof beyond a reasonable doubt that they were drinking alcohol. They probably were, but not enough to prove it.
    • shuffle, on 03/31/2008, -1/+16They proved that making dumb-ass assumptions, like you just did, is stupid. Decisions affecting these kids lives based on those assumptions is even more stupid.
    • halleyscomet, on 03/31/2008, -3/+6The point is the kids were drinking off school grounds and not at a school function. The school suspended them for drinking when the drinking was not related to any kind of school activity.

      Should a kid be suspended from school because they were busted shoplifting at a mall four towns over?

      Yes the suspended kids WERE drinking alcohol, that's not debated. Whining over if they WERE drinking is missing the entire point.
      • rdhazrd, on 03/31/2008, -2/+8"got suspended from school sports because of photos showing them drinking from red cups" I think YOU missed the point.
        • halleyscomet, on 04/24/2008, -0/+1Actually, I've read more articles on this story than this one. The kids admitted that the red cups contained alcohol.
    • moxley, on 03/31/2008, -0/+5That people who leave snarky comments which make the same assumptions that that article explained cause so many problems look like assholes?

      I dunno....
      • GeneHACKman, on 03/31/2008, -1/+1I'm not making a judgement on whether or not the suspension was valid or even ethical. Honestly? I think the suspension is total b.s. But this stunt is merely nothing more than a way to have fun with cops. Like I said (and I'm sure most people agree), what they actually were drinking in those red cups was probably alcohol, and having a root beer keg party does not prove that kids don't always drink alcohol at parties. Actually, it just shows that most of the time, they actually do, but sometimes it's just fun to piss off cops.
  • mccune, on 03/31/2008, -21/+8So because the school suspended some of you, you decided to get some revenge, on the cops? Way to make them take time out from doing something useful, just to get yourself some minor internet fame.
    • Jawoodyablowme, on 03/31/2008, -4/+6If they're your typical University "cops", then they are nothing but glorified security guards with arrest and shoot to kill powers. *****'em
      • tehrich, on 04/01/2008, -0/+2So you're stereotyping campus police? How is that different from stereotyping kids drinking from red cups?
    • liquidsys, on 03/31/2008, -1/+7Yeah, they could have been doing something useful like arresting a man at Best Buy for not showing a receipt!
      • mccune, on 03/31/2008, -1/+2Sigh, that guy did not get arrested...
        • spyrochaete, on 03/31/2008, -0/+4Yes he did. He just didn't get charged. To be arrested is to be forcably removed by the police and taken into custody, which that guy was.
          • mccune, on 03/31/2008, -1/+4OK, point taken, but he didn't get charged, and that story has *nothing* to do with this one, it's just another in a series of stupid groundless "poilce suck"-type comments in this topic. Apparently I'm living in some sort of topsy-turvy world today where a tree hugging granola eating hippie like myself sees nothing wrong with the actions most cops take, while a bunch of techno-geeks that inhabit this site seem to think all cops will gladly beat the brains out of you just for looking at them funny. I'll just chalk this one up to a case of the Mondays.
          • liquidsys, on 03/31/2008, -0/+4I'm a Fire Fighter. I've personally seen blatant abuses of power up close and personal, from multiple individuals. Only once was one of them later punished for their actions. People actually FEAR police where I live. That's absurd. I travel as a passenger many times, and we'll go by a cop car and everyone looks away, as if not to anger the frightening animal. That's truly horrific when the common man is reduced to this behavior.
    • Doriath, on 03/31/2008, -1/+7I don't think the students "made them" do anything.
      • mccune, on 03/31/2008, -3/+1The police evidently got some kind of notification that there might be illegal activity going on at the party, so yeah, the students did make them come out and investigate. If you don't want the police coming to your party to see if underage drinking is going on, don't intentionally stage one to make it appear that there is.
    • Pittance, on 03/31/2008, -9/+3Probably high school kids, so its even worse since its city cops or sherrifs who have real jobs to be doing. And stop using the 1/10,000 instances of corrupt cops to justify they are all bad. Go live in africa then complain about cops being too strict.
      • mccune, on 03/31/2008, -4/+2I think you're responding to the wrong comment, sounds like you and I are on the same page.
        • MaynardJK, on 03/31/2008, -2/+5And you are both idiots.
          • mccune, on 03/31/2008, -2/+1Clever...

            That's fine if you think I'm an idiot, I spotted a whole lot of people I think are idiots in the comments in this topic. Calling random strangers on the internet idiots is fun, am I right?
    • drewedman, on 03/31/2008, -0/+3In that town I'm sure the only thing that those cops do is bust parties.

      There's probably very low instances of crime in a mostly white suburban community. Those cops deserved to feel stupid for not caring about whether the kids were actually doing anything wrong and just busting them for the sake of busting them
  • 0Degrees, on 03/31/2008, -9/+47It's ridiculous that cops can just come right into somebodies home without probable cause. And don't give me the old ***** line that a bunch of teenagers with red cups is probable cause, cause it's not...

    Here's a grand idea, how about cops worry about the real threats to society instead of haggling kids for the fun of it.
    • IAmTheGuy, on 03/31/2008, -3/+13Of course they can come into someone's home without probable cause if the people invite them in. This most likely happened because the kids were trying to make a statement and would comply.
    • Pittance, on 03/31/2008, -3/+6It was the fact that the kids publicized that it was a keggar. They should have gotten them on a noise violation anyways (cause 20-30 highschool kids at night most assuredly were over the decibel limit).
      • mikebaldwin67, on 03/31/2008, -1/+10go back to bed old man Mckenzie from next door.
        • idleidol, on 03/31/2008, -1/+4A noise violation is not probable cause to enter your home. Unless said noise was some girl screaming "rape" or "hey dude, i'm killing a baby in here right now"

          Now, you can easily make the case that the kids were saying things that could be construed as granting probable cause, but just loud music and white noise talking is not justification in and of itself.
    • Parahnoia, on 03/31/2008, -0/+10The cops showed up because some neighbors were complaining about the roads being blocked... that is probable cause for them to show up.
      • 0Degrees, on 03/31/2008, -1/+3So that gives the cops the right to just bust in the house and start hand-cuffing kids?
        • tman84, on 03/31/2008, -1/+3There are people digging us down, because they fail at knowing their rights. They are so brainwashed they actually believe the cops have all this power and authority over you.
        • Twag86, on 03/31/2008, -0/+1No kids were handcuffed. They were asked to take a breath test. They all complied and the whole event was pretty incident free.
    • tman84, on 03/31/2008, -0/+3Cops can't come into your house without a warrant, No warrants shall be issued without probably cause, probable cause does not equal a right to search someone's house.
      Cops hate people who know the law or their rights, it bothers them when you challenge their authority
      Cops cannot come into your home without a warrant, issued by a judge. That doesn't mean there aren't millions of idiots in the world who will just invite the police in.
      • Mediocreman, on 03/31/2008, -1/+7Yes they can. If you open your door and the cops see a bong and bag a weed on your table, they sure as hell can come in and arrest you.
        • tman84, on 03/31/2008, -2/+3Technically they can do whatever they want, they are the new thugs of the world. Will that hold up in court, if they knock down your door and arrest you, absolutely not.
    • Unriggable, on 03/31/2008, -0/+2I think the big problem with underage drinking is driving back from the party drunk as a fish - the cops want to stop that. Why it takes all of these pricks to do that...nobody knows.
      • 0Degrees, on 03/31/2008, -0/+3I've heard this logic before and to it I would attest that arresting youth for drinking will have little to no affect on drunk driving related incidents.
  • LuckyASN, on 03/31/2008, -6/+852 protesting teens and a red cup?
    • danisth, on 03/31/2008, -4/+16i see what you did there
      • Frost9999, on 03/31/2008, -16/+2Your comment is the meme that just became boring and stupid.
  • Shawshanksr, on 03/31/2008, -4/+15they should have done a drug test... the root beer was actually laced with LSD
    • zeromancer, on 03/31/2008, -0/+7you can't drug test for lsd. it's completely metabolized by the body in 15 minutes. lest, your giant pupils give it away.
  • Mr.Chainsaw, on 03/31/2008, -2/+109"I'm gonna be so diabetic in the morning"
  • KillerLettuce, on 03/31/2008, -1/+83On the video is actually seems like the cop giving the breathalyser tests was laughing about it too.
    • sifuchar, on 03/31/2008, -2/+3Probably a little embarrassing for him ... "Heh heh, ... well, hmm, it was working earlier ... I don't know what's wrong with it .. let me try a new battery ...". I wonder if he actually tested each and every kid there, or if after 10 he realized he was being had?
      • Twag86, on 03/31/2008, -3/+1You do know that he knew what was going on and that it was a stunt to make the school, not the cops look dumb. The cop, by law, has to check every student. Excuse him for doing his job right.
        • sifuchar, on 03/31/2008, -0/+6Ah, I see. I was not aware of the law requiring police officers to administer breathalysers to each and every student in a house where they suspect alcohol might be consumed. Seems like a silly law .. maybe that's why he was laughing?
  • IceOfDiamonds, on 03/31/2008, -8/+14High fives all around. Come to Canada boys, its legal at 18 here and I'll crack one open for you.
    • jerrycan, on 03/31/2008, -0/+4http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcoholic_beverages_i ...
    • RadiatedAnt, on 03/31/2008, -8/+3you know how many idiot teens die every year driving drunk back from wisconsin or michigan. Pathetic
      • Disfnord, on 03/31/2008, -0/+12Yeah, trying to drive over the great lakes can be a killer.
    • bk1808, on 03/31/2008, -1/+6uhhh isn't it legal at 19 in Canada, not 18?
      • mCanada, on 03/31/2008, -0/+4Depends on the province. It's like asking "is smoking legal in the United States?" In Alberta it's 18. In BC it's 19? I think (not sure)
        • girlpirate, on 04/01/2008, -0/+3you are correct sir. not that it stopped us from drinking at 16. In a way it was a good thing, got all my drinking done before I turned 19. I'm 22 now and couldn't care less about drinking.
    • Ellidi, on 03/31/2008, -0/+11Doesn't sound like you're a pedophile at all.
    • DarKnight90, on 03/31/2008, -0/+319 in most provinces.
    • hammerpants, on 03/31/2008, -0/+2STAY AWAY from that dirty old man. Yeah, if you show up at his house, he makes with the beer...but TRUST ME on this one...it ain't free.
    • riyehn, on 03/31/2008, -0/+418 in Alberta, Manitoba, and Quebec. 19 everywhere else.
    • morogolus, on 03/31/2008, -2/+3At least we don't have George Bush
  • tbone63, on 03/31/2008, -4/+7I live in the area. Here is a news article for more information about this. http://www.wausaudailyherald.com/apps/pbcs.dll/art ...
    • IphtashuFitz, on 03/31/2008, -1/+3Page Not Found
      You lose.
    • chanop, on 03/31/2008, -1/+4I bet you werent invited
    • rdhazrd, on 03/31/2008, -0/+3Holy *****, that was in Wausau? I need to watch the news more! I'm from the area too.
    • rdhazrd, on 03/31/2008, -0/+5http://www.wausaudailyherald.com/apps/pbcs.dll/art ...
    • WocEnasni, on 03/31/2008, -0/+2I figured it was somewhere around here from the accents, but damn. this is the second news story in the last two weeks that I've seen on Digg first before on the local news (the other being the girl who died after her parents decided to only pray for her)
    • Bobboq, on 03/31/2008, -0/+1I was rewatching the beginning over and over to see if those were Wisconsin plates, and sure enough. Gotta love Wisconsin.
  • MattB123, on 03/31/2008, -1/+13Brilliant!

    The should have a hookah party where everyone smokes that "herbal smoke" stuff they sell with bogs next.
    • chrishirsch, on 03/31/2008, -0/+3it would be a bong with tobacco not a hookah. they didnt get bottles of rootbeer, they got a keg.
  • shadowmoose, on 03/31/2008, -14/+8Hey I remember this. Only I dugg the link that didn't go to a blog and is from an actual source.
    http://digg.com/odd_stuff/Cops_Bust_Teens_Root_Bee ...
  • thentro, on 03/31/2008, -0/+21Teenagers sound drunk all the time huh..
  • markgl, on 03/31/2008, -11/+5What did the cops do to the students? How does being suspended form school have todo with police officers? Now you have a town of pissed off cops that will bust you for any little thing now!
    • chanop, on 03/31/2008, -0/+1The cop didn't look pissed off to me, looked like he had a laugh about it also
    • mikebaldwin67, on 03/31/2008, -0/+6because when you live in a small town the police and school work hand-in-hand. My old highschool had a cop on faculty all the time.
      • idleidol, on 03/31/2008, -0/+1That is not unique to small towns. Most good sized schools have an officer on site at all times, sadly.

        I don't think the kids were attacking the cops, per se...merely using this as a publicity stunt to show that you cannot always assume they are always up to no good. Were they probally sloshed the following night at a real kegger? Yes, but i'm much more concerned about a society with arbitrary punishments handed down from authority figures than I am about some buzzing 17 year olds.
    • markgl, on 04/01/2008, -0/+1none of you uderstand anything i just said.
  • TheReport, on 03/31/2008, -11/+4while these dumbass cops took the time to breathalizer test each and everyone of these kids, real crimes were occurring in the city. Our tax dollars hard at work.

    "The party was held by a high school student who wanted to show that teens don’t always drink alcohol at their parties."

    Right and highschool students wait till marriage to have sex.
    • maxxian, on 03/31/2008, -4/+2Unfortunately they have to check everyone. So if you want to complain about wasted tax dollars, blame the kids.
      • fotbr, on 03/31/2008, -0/+2Why do they HAVE to test everyone? Sure, you agree to be tested while driving (or face suspension of license, etc) as a condition of getting your drivers license, but that says *****-all about being tested while in someone else's home, at a private party.
    • rdhazrd, on 03/31/2008, -0/+4If they use digg they wait, and wait, and wait, and wait for sex.
  • AnimeCwboy, on 03/31/2008, -3/+1priceless
  • ptsuk, on 03/31/2008, -12/+9IIRC All the parties that were "broken up by cops" weren't called because of suspected "booze" but because of noise ordinances (neighbors complaining) and street congestion(double parked cars, parked on the wrong side of the street,etc.) Additionally when the cops did arrive they were sighted for underage drinking etc cause of the kegger.

    So how these kids got the "last laugh" when they were still breaking other laws is beyond me.

    When my friends and I had a get together about 15 people and were drinking from a keg we never got busted cause we always kept it under 25 people(friend usually brought their friends, etc.) and we always used the furnished basement, parking wasn't a problem as well as the empty lot accross the street served as our own parking lot ;)
    • Cannon49, on 03/31/2008, -3/+17Hold on let me go get you your medal
      • chrishirsch, on 03/31/2008, -0/+3Pin the blue ribbon upon his chest.
    • moxley, on 03/31/2008, -3/+5See this is the problem. How do you know they were breaking other laws? How do you know they were loud?

      You don't...And you shouldn't assume criminality...

      In the US it has gotten to the point where we are all presumed guilty, especially in certain situations.

      I say ***** that. That is as ignorant as thinking that every cop is a pig or every fed is is a criminal. They aren't... You should give people the benefit of the doubt as much as you can - and when it comes to the law and legalities, the spirit of our law and constitution is that the law/authorities MUST give everyone the benefit of the doubt officially when it comes to criminality.

      I think some of these people (and justices) need a refresher course in constitutional law - the type of class that supports it, not looks for ways to undermine it.
      • x1ang, on 03/31/2008, -0/+1Yeah... it's kind of a widespread social thing than any single group. People, in general, leap to conclusions; from this video we can't tell what the cops were actually called there on and, depending on that, it actually might justify or vilify their actions.
      • tehrich, on 04/01/2008, -0/+2The cops were called because the kids were blocking the street. http://www.kansascity.com/450/story/551102.html
    • sHockz, on 03/31/2008, -0/+4sounds like your partys were just outta control. i mean, those 15ppl keggers are where everyone wants to be right?

      i always drank, i always smoked, i never got caught. cops are slow, learn2run, and getting caught is not a worry.
    • morogolus, on 03/31/2008, -1/+0Cops get a total hard on busting underage drinkers, it's so easy and they get to bust mostly spoiled white kids in rich neighborhoods who have deep pocketbooks. While they weren't drinking alcohol, the cops would have found something to charge them with. There's always something if you look hard enough.
  • serif69, on 03/31/2008, -16/+5What a great example of adolescent thinking. These kids are going to grow up believing that they can get away with treating police like douchebags. Enjoy the nightstick upside your skulls in college.
    • fotbr, on 03/31/2008, -0/+6Well, in all fairness, the abusive police officers and departments should be treated like douchebags. It just sucks for the majority of otherwise-upstanding officers that refuse to clean up their own.
  • cgruber, on 03/31/2008, -5/+25Everyone protesting this needs to realize that the cops had probable cause to suspect underage drinking. It's in Wisconsin.
    (Born, raised and still live there)
    • crunchdigg, on 03/31/2008, -4/+3really? what was the probable cause?
      lots of cars on the street?
    • Bologner, on 03/31/2008, -0/+3Happy cows DO NOT come from ***** California!!!!
  • mcsloy, on 03/31/2008, -3/+4i wish i could say this could happen in the UK , but all the kids start drinking at around 8 over here !!
  • Nhmarine, on 03/31/2008, -11/+0This country is so like the imagined world of George Orwell's 1984....
    I am surprised the cops dont come from a "Ministry of Peace" and that our motto isnt
    War is Peace
    Freedom is Slavery
    Ignorance is Strength
    Sure, institutions like the police are here to "protect" us, but who is there to police the police? It is pure insanity that these kids even had their time wasted.
    • mikebaldwin67, on 03/31/2008, -2/+3hah dude lighten up, responding to noise complaints isn't a sign of fascism. Although thinking it is, is a sign of ignorance.
    • scoutmasterEd, on 03/31/2008, -0/+0You really need to get out more!
  • microbefox, on 03/31/2008, -9/+2WTF? Who has been to a Root Beer Keg? This protest is interesting, but to base it on "...teens don’t always drink alcohol at their parties." is not as effective to prove a point.
    • nominalgeek, on 03/31/2008, -0/+2I think it's a good concept that you don't /have/ to be drinking alcohol to enjoy yourself. We should be giving these kids praise, not knocking them down because you're only experience of enjoying yourself at a party is in a drunk stupor. Or that you spent your college and high school years killing off braincells in a drunken stupor.
    • scoutmasterEd, on 03/31/2008, -1/+0What exactly were they protesting?????????
      • nominalgeek, on 03/31/2008, -0/+2Their friend was "suspended from school sports because of photos showing them drinking from red cups." No other cause, other then they had a picture of him drinking an undisclosed liquid from a red cup. So they were protesting, that cops, adults, or teachers assume the worst.... like the rest of our society. But I admit I /may/ be giving them too much credit.
    • afpunk, on 04/01/2008, -0/+1Actually, I was at a party in high school with a root beer keg. My prom date and I worked with and were friends with a bunch of the 'goody-goody' girls at my school, and they had a post-prom party with a root beer keg which we stopped at for a little bit. It was actually kind of fun. The foam was worse than it is with most beer though, by a long shot.
  • inigomntoya, on 03/31/2008, -1/+69Root beer comes in kegs?
    • nominalgeek, on 03/31/2008, -0/+12Root beer is actually brewed by some microbreweries. They tend to be very high in quality. I actually have purchased kegs of locally brewed Root Beer from micro brew houses on Long Island and upstate New York. You should try it out!
    • protogenxl, on 03/31/2008, -3/+1http://www.hbso.com/keg.html

      They have BRIAR'S BIRCH BEER and SARANAC ROOT BEER available in half keg's
    • Hraes, on 03/31/2008, -1/+2If you're in the southeast Wisconsin area, Sprecher kegs are the way to go.
    • prophet5, on 03/31/2008, -1/+1... or sometimes not at all ;-)
    • selrahc, on 03/31/2008, -0/+3Yes, my brother in laws dad owns a bar and whenever they have parties they always have a root beer keg there. It's good root beer too.
    • hammerpants, on 03/31/2008, -3/+2You're doing it wrong. Beer goes in kegs.
  • ipitydafool, on 03/31/2008, -17/+6Dugg for kids who are smarter than cops... which pretty much describes anyone 18 and under!
  • KennMac, on 03/31/2008, -3/+15Reminds me of the time me and my buddy were walking from my apartment to the bar, in a college town... and my buddy is walking with a solo cup about half full with some beer (I warned that this wasn't a good idea.)

    Suddenly a police car rounds the corner and pulls up right next to us and the cop gets out. She asks where we're going... then asks my buddy what's in his cup. He immediately slams the rest of the beer in one gulp, and holds the cup upside down and says... "nothin' officer". He was cuffed and thrown in the back immediately. I bailed him out for $100 a couple hours later. "Disorderly conduct and public intoxication" ... haha, he deserved it.
    • chanop, on 03/31/2008, -0/+6In Plattsburgh NY, you don't get bailed out for that *****, night in the drunk-tank......best night you could ever have
      • KennMac, on 03/31/2008, -0/+3Dude! That's where it was! It it happened on Broad St. on the corner with Helen St.

        Small world... I'm a PSU alumni.
    • mikebaldwin67, on 03/31/2008, -10/+1wow what kind of crappy college town did you live in? We could be walking down the steet with an open keg and the cops would just tell us to hurry up and finish it before any supervisors drive by.
      • dext3r, on 03/31/2008, -3/+8Yeah, i really see a bunch of guys carrying an open keg across campus. Gays.
        • chanop, on 03/31/2008, -0/+9why'd you have to call him on his total horse-***** lie?
  • greenriver572, on 03/31/2008, -10/+4i didn't know kegs of root beer existed.
  • Comatorium, on 03/31/2008, -3/+14I sort of want to go with the knee-jerk, "haha, ***** the police" thing here but I don't think it wholly applies in this situation. I see the prank in this but I just don't see how it proves anyone wrong (other than the police) or provides justice/protest for the "red cup incident." Of course the "red cup" thing was stupid but throwing a fake keg party with root beer instead? Childish. The logical thing to do would be something along the lines of what jeremyduffy said earlier but instead they waste time and resources by pulling some teenage stunt that proves nothing and sends no message other than "hey we can fool the pol