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DeNiro's Restaurants Selling Endangered Species — With Pride

planetsave.com — Undercover operatives from Greenpeace conducted DNA testing and found that Robert DeNiro's London-based Nobu restaurants are selling endangered fish. After being confronted, the restaurant's confusingly twisted response was to proudly label the fish as "Endangered" on the menu.

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  • Craftsworld, on 09/23/2008, -57/+48
    • twiztidsinz, on 09/24/2008, -10/+53Endangered just means it's Extra Tasty..... why do you think it's endangered?
      • frankb00th, on 09/24/2008, -6/+4not necessarily. it also means that as the species gets rarer, prices go up then the people that need status food to up the neighbors start gorging themselves of it.
        That's where it becomes indecent. Choosing profit over the eradication of a type of lifeform.
        Certain fishers now use 60 mile LONG hooklines. A line that would essentially reach outer space in length.
        This cannot be sustained by the sea in any way imaginable.
      • sgtbutterscotch, on 09/24/2008, -0/+6whoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooosh
    • changedmind, on 09/24/2008, -5/+15It sounds like the moron who wrote this thinks the chain will be embarrassed by this. He calls their response "stupid" but by putting an (*) - endangered on the menu it will only sell more fish!!! Next time I'm in London I know what I'm eating.
      • hiPpymIck, on 09/24/2008, -5/+3FYI
        transatlantic culture difference..
        in UK this is potentially very bad publicity


        Americans love the freedom to choose

        the English love animals
    • maz2331, on 09/24/2008, -3/+7Uh... is it actually "endangered" or at a much lower level like "threatened"?

      • angryredplanet, on 11/11/2008, -0/+1Does it matter? Even "threatened" means that species' future is questionable.
    • mavranos, on 09/24/2008, -1/+9http://www.tagagiant.org/

      Tuna the size of Volkswagens and much tastier. They should be managed better so we can all enjoy them.
      • mnvm10, on 09/24/2008, -0/+1but,it's okay to catch them if there going 60mph.
    • toshimonkey, on 09/24/2008, -3/+6The reason it should be protected is so we can continue to eat them...
    • TunaFishGangsta, on 09/24/2008, -3/+5I'm so going to eat there. No, I didn't create this username for this post.
    • palehorse864, on 09/24/2008, -2/+4If you're ordering endangered food, it is important to know the little loopholes.

      http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=LuNu2a4FGTI
    • BeyondGoodNEvil, on 09/24/2008, -4/+699% of all species have gone extinct. It happens. The only relevant question is whether or not a species' existence is an aid to the increased survivability of humanity, since we are the only species who can protect the whole earth against mass extinctions.

      These "endangered species" laws are just biological status quo *****.

      Look at it this way also. When one species goes extinct, another one will inevitably take its place in that same habitat.
      • askantik, on 09/24/2008, -7/+4lol... so humans are the only important species? We don't depend on other species, right? Definitely not...

        /end sarcasm

        But we do often cause extinctions. Perhaps this is what you meant? We are a part of nature, not above it. Period. And that's from both a philosophical as well as a biological standpoint.
      • BeyondGoodNEvil, on 09/24/2008, -1/+1I didn't digg you down, just to let you know. I was just meaning that humans are more valuable than other creatures only so far as we use the earth's resources more productively than they can, as a means to increase the survivability of all life on earth. Asteroids come, and perhaps mass historical extinctions coincide with our path through more dangerous areas of the galaxy as I read recently. We're never above nature, but it's coming to the point that anything we do to harm nature can be corrected by us within a few decades or centuries. Even with all the trash we produce, if we develop nanotechnology, we may be able to quickly sort all the trash into their original elements in an extremely short time. The key is to increase human intelligence and health. Sometimes animals are more deserving of life than certain humans though.
    • lolsupk, on 09/24/2008, -2/+4Endangered should be expensive. This is a nice story to tell your friends... "tell Steve about that one time Bobby DeNiro fed you a baby seal in London"
    • RealHyperX, on 09/24/2008, -2/+5Anything to piss of PETA
  • preneel, on 09/23/2008, -42/+35That's disgusting
    • Klisk, on 09/24/2008, -5/+8Have you ever eaten at a Nobu?

      It's about $1000 (USD) dollars per person. For sushi/Japanese food..

      You don't understand disgusting. This is glamorous, honey!
    • Tyrghast, on 09/24/2008, -7/+13Disgusting? I always thought that endangered species were that way because they tasted so damn good...
    • palehorse864, on 09/24/2008, -1/+3Not if you order it correctly. There are little loopholes to get what you want.

      http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=LuNu2a4FGTI
    • somedirtbag, on 09/24/2008, -0/+3If by "disgusting" you mean "totally awesome and/or bad ass", then I totally agree.
    • illt, on 09/24/2008, -1/+3actually it's quite delicious...
      and it's no where near 1000 bucks a person.
  • GetItBuilt, on 09/23/2008, -33/+18I think DeNiro's acting career should be put on the Endangered list.
  • Hetman, on 09/23/2008, -18/+148I think I need to get to London stat so I can taste this fish before it is all gone. I am still pissed about the Neanderthals and *****-sapiens who helped drive the wolly mammoth to extinction. They looked delicious.
    • Zihuatanejo, on 09/23/2008, -3/+72I cry at night because I will never have the chance to eat Dodo eggs benedict.
    • Hetman, on 09/23/2008, -2/+8I would have liked to try it also. But from what I read they tasted pretty horrible, and that was one of the reasons native americans never ate them. But hey I will try almost anything once.
      • slvrbullet87, on 09/24/2008, -5/+2What sorce did you have who wrote down that mammoths tastes horrible... cave paintings?
      • Evolutuon, on 09/24/2008, -1/+7He was talking about the Dodo egg.
      • sockpuppets, on 09/24/2008, -0/+9They unearthed a Precambrian taco bell menu.
      • IpecacNeat, on 09/24/2008, -0/+7What source do you have that he was talking about the Dodo egg?
    • hjartad, on 09/24/2008, -1/+25Unrelated to the topic... but I just read this digg while logged out and noticed that "*****" was censored. It read as ****-sapiens. Maybe, it's just me, but I find that a bit strange. Homosexual is not a word of profanity, right?
      • ZeeZee2k, on 09/24/2008, -7/+6Try some fried panda balls while you still can, they're delicious.
      • Y0tsuya, on 09/24/2008, -0/+3It's finger-lingling-good.
      • Lst01, on 09/24/2008, -0/+9How dare you log off of Digg?
    • changedmind, on 09/24/2008, -1/+3Dude, I hear that they're gunna clone mammoth so they might make a come back to the dinner table.
    • mashimka, on 09/24/2008, -2/+1wow, this joke has gooone waay to far.

      but still funny
    • mike17032, on 09/24/2008, -0/+1Agreed, they looked like walking hunks of awesome to me.

      Oh and the story is buried as greenpeace spam, why digg allows eco-terrorists on the homepage is beyond me.
    • PixelEater, on 09/24/2008, -0/+1Doomsday tourism?
  • emecks, on 09/23/2008, -9/+127From the page: "In fairness to Notar, it is not illegal to sell bluefin tuna."
    • mashimka, on 09/24/2008, -3/+2Article buried as scintillation and also some of that word with "tit" in it.
  • TheJimid, on 09/23/2008, -6/+10Well at least he isn't selling baby endangered animals for their veal like qualities.
    • scottbaez, on 09/24/2008, -1/+3Just because they're cute doesn't make them any more endangered. I think there are plenty of cattle to go around, and sooner or later they all meet the same fate.
  • hantata, on 09/23/2008, -8/+3I wonder what Lonesome George tastes like...
  • andrewtarik, on 09/23/2008, -28/+2Ugh! And look at that pic of Damon & DeNiro. I wanna slap Damon and send DeNiro to a vegan retreat.
    • slvrbullet87, on 09/24/2008, -4/+9Go back to France with your meat hating ways
  • reaper527, on 09/23/2008, -8/+128"My guess is that De Niro’s restaurant chain will suffer a serious decline in business because of Greenpeace’s sting operation. "

    yeah, because free publicity is going to ***** their business plans. seriously, they aren't doing anything illegal. if people don't like it, get the fish on some kind of protection list and get the law to reflect the fish's status. you can't condemn the restaurant for doing everything by the book when its competition in undoubtedly serving the same thing.
    • myckG, on 09/24/2008, -0/+17Blue fin Tuna is highly regulated. The population might be at low levels but the fishing quota is now set at low levels also. Fishermen have now started catching them smaller and then fattening the fish up in large holding nets.

      This article is just as skewed as Fox news.. fair and balanced right?? We report, you decide... right??

      *****!
    • mike17032, on 09/24/2008, -0/+3No *****.

      I already want to eat there, and had never heard of the place before this. If the stupid fish is endangered, I guess I had better do it soon.
    • WARonTREES, on 09/24/2008, -0/+3with out sounding anarchic, why don't poeple have the freedom to do what they want (granted, this is a UK based story). instead of people getting the fish on a "list" to protect it, why don't they mind their own and let people eat their tasty food? there's this phrase i've heard, "survival of the fittest," and if these fish are meant to survive they should be able to do it on their own.
      • soomprimal, on 09/24/2008, -4/+3"Doing what you want" predicates on you doing that without hurting or infringing on another person. An argument can be made that, if you remove a certain animal from its ecosystem that in turn would damage the environment, that you may be infringing on others' rights to a balanced ecosystem.
      • reaper527, on 09/24/2008, -0/+1in 99% of cases, i would agree with that (you absolutely don't sound anarchic), but in this case, i think soom is right.
  • dougwastaken, on 09/23/2008, -17/+99MATT DAMON
    • damien6669, on 09/24/2008, -1/+9maaaaaaaaaaatt daaaaaaaaaaamonnn!
    • sockpuppets, on 09/24/2008, -2/+5Citation needed.
      • 5xSTUN, on 09/24/2008, -0/+10The movie "Team America: World Police" established that the fact that Matt Damon went to Harvard before dropping out to pursue acting doesn't indemnify him from having a couple of guys from the University of Colorado portray him as a drooling retard who can only say his own name.
    • IpecacNeat, on 09/24/2008, -1/+20I'm ***** him.
      • str3ama, on 09/24/2008, -17/+1@dougwastaken
        +1 for sheer randomness..
      • strictnein, on 09/24/2008, -1/+5@str3ama
        -1 for lacking pop culture knowledge
    • DarkLance, on 09/24/2008, -1/+1is he on the menu.... yum!
  • welliwonder, on 09/23/2008, -18/+5Douche bag.
  • supergreengirl2, on 09/23/2008, -26/+8I Think the manager of the restaurant should be fired for having such an stupid answer. And of course DeNiro should apologize and take the dish from the menu.
  • zbeast, on 09/23/2008, -9/+95What? it's tuna, when I first started reading the story I though they were talking about bald eagles, or panda bears.
    • iamdan1, on 09/24/2008, -0/+18Panda would probably be pretty good. All they do is eat and sleep, got to be nice and tender.
    • tghd, on 09/24/2008, -12/+7Mediterranean Blue Fin tuna have been almost wiped out. They have it worst than bald eagles and certainly have it worst than pandas.
    • Tzen, on 09/24/2008, -0/+8Bald Eagles are not endangered anymore. You can eat them now.
      • kelmaster1, on 09/24/2008, -0/+8If I eat a bald eagle does that make me more patriotic?
      • diggpatt, on 09/24/2008, -0/+4Tastes like freedom.
    • tjallen, on 09/24/2008, -2/+2But where may I find a Bald Eagle to eat? I'm not killing one myself, that's just inhumane and un-American.
    • Niightwitch, on 09/24/2008, -0/+3This was just a terrible set-up by Greenpeace of a high profile restaurant that was selling a legal product.

      Greenpeace does some good work, but this was way over the top and reminds of some of the stunts PETA pulls.
  • Zihuatanejo, on 09/23/2008, -11/+19Delicious.
  • tbhurst, on 09/23/2008, -21/+4Does putting 'endangered' on the menu actually make it more attractive to the climate-change crazy Brits? I would guess no, but I'm not in the business of catering to a$$holes.
    • GeorgeStone2, on 09/24/2008, -0/+1I would eat it just so I could say i've eaten an endagered animal.
      It wouldn't phase me at all... It's out back anyway. Someone's going to eat it. Might as well be me.
      I live in England btw. And am anything but climate change crazy. I don't even believe it's man made (inb4diggdown)..
  • Gemfinder, on 09/23/2008, -8/+11They're letting the consumer dictate. Informed customers will make the choice and the market will follow. It may not be good for business but business can re-create itself according to market conditions.

    Not defending the policy of serving endangered species but this isn't exactly crowing the status with arrogant pride.
  • cmscott, on 09/23/2008, -7/+66You people act like Robert DeNiro went out and caught all these fish himself just to serve at his restaurant. Bluefin tuna are commercially cultivated in Japan, and its popularity in sushi restaurants is what led to it be overfished and become endangered. So really, blame the laws and the fisheries for not allowing the stock to recover. The restaurant didn't do anything wrong; I'm sure it's delicious.
    • gnuyen, on 09/24/2008, -10/+5It's this sort of behavior that makes us dependent on the government. Just because something isn't illegal doesn't mean it isn't wrong.

      This is reprehensible because hunting a species to extinction is a selfish act which cannot be reversed. It eliminates the ability of people to enjoy the resource in the future.

      All the libertarians out there that don't want to live in a nanny state shouldn't be justifying this behavior as it's not illegal so they can do what they want. Instead we should expect people to be responsible people, and disapprove when they are not.
    • Logicexe, on 09/24/2008, -8/+10You're confusing something's legality with its other values. It's not illegal to cheat on your spouse, but its still wrong, it's not illegal to smoke but it's still stupid, it's not illegal to be rude to everyone you meet but people will still think you're an ***** and it's not illegal to serve bluefin tuna but that doesn't mean it's a socially responsible thing to do given their status as an endangered species.
    • Math, on 09/24/2008, -0/+9Japan has been illegally exceeding its annual quotas by up to three times the quota, so its Japan's fault that Bluefin tuna is endangered.

      "If Japan had stuck to its quota, the fish stock would now be five times larger. "

      http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,20588386-1702 ...
      • WARonTREES, on 09/24/2008, -0/+0who are we going to get to enforce these quotas on those Japanese? could we get some taxpayer money to PETA, or does this fall under UN terretory?
    • barkus, on 09/24/2008, -4/+5So...
      anything illegal = morally wrong
      anything legal = morally okay
      I think I got it. Now I don't need to think for myself anymore.
  • zerries, on 09/24/2008, -7/+18Bluefin toro, let alone just the regluar meat, is some of the best tasting food out there.
    • thetedster180, on 09/24/2008, -0/+3mmmmmmmmmm... toro
    • jfujita, on 09/24/2008, -0/+2Yea Ive had it numerous times. Never knew it recently became endangered.
  • MCBROCK, on 09/24/2008, -4/+13Slap a "Going Quick !!!" sign on it and raise the price.
  • arensquared, on 09/24/2008, -18/+9This is bad. This endangered species should be protected, not sell it for public use
  • tacotomato, on 09/24/2008, -3/+6Why can't they just serve babies like a normal restaurant?
  • bicyclethief, on 09/24/2008, -6/+80Greenpeace: You're serving an endangered species!

    DeNiro: You talkin me? You talkin to me?!
  • mediaspree, on 09/24/2008, -9/+12My sister used to pass around a pamphlet that it was unethical to eat shrimp because their population is in danger. ***** shrimp. Sorry, we're carnivores and we will eat until there is nothing left to eat and if that happens then our evolutionary sons better damn well know what to do.
    • BrainInAJar, on 09/24/2008, -11/+2no, it's unethical to eat shrimp because it's an abomination under God.

      Leviticus 11:9-12.

      What part of "Whatsoever hath no fins nor scales in the waters, that shall be an abomination unto you." do you not understand?
      • bobartig, on 09/24/2008, -1/+3Right on, my kosher brother! Actually, I'm not jewish, and I love shrimp. I just like matzoh, challah, kosher grape juice, kosher meats, kosher coke. Them jews make some tasty foods.
      • AppleJacks364, on 09/24/2008, -0/+2What is the big ***** thing on a shrimp's tail called? I sure as ***** thought it was a fin...
      • BrainInAJar, on 09/24/2008, -1/+3*whoosh*
      • itsthebrod, on 09/24/2008, -0/+2***** god, I'll eat whatever the ***** I want to.
      • ruddywarrior, on 09/25/2008, -0/+0@AppleJacks364 - It must have fins AND scales to be considered kosher. Although shrimp does in fact have a fin, it does not have scales therefore it is not kosher.
    • MikeFallopian, on 09/24/2008, -2/+5Damn right, if it's a choice between me eating shrimp and my descendants eating shrimp... pass the cocktail sauce.
    • maz2331, on 09/24/2008, -2/+3Hmmm....

      Time to scampi up some shrimp and serve over a nice plate of linguine.

    • sunamc, on 09/24/2008, -4/+3Worst bastardisation of the theory of evolution I have ever heard.
    • askantik, on 09/24/2008, -1/+3We are not carnivores.
    • bat-21, on 09/24/2008, -0/+1Most shrimp are farmed.
  • Diggnabbit, on 09/24/2008, -2/+3It's like The Freshman!
  • shadydentist, on 09/24/2008, -11/+3Tuna? Seriously?
  • Mier, on 09/24/2008, -12/+30PETA - People Eating Tasty Animals

    I'm a founding member. If its available and there's nothing illegal about buying it then ***** it, but it and eat it.
    • serif69, on 09/24/2008, -0/+12Hate to tell you, but People Eating Tasty Animals has been around longer than you've been alive.
    • DThatsMe, on 09/24/2008, -3/+6Never heard that one before.
    • Mier, on 09/24/2008, -0/+3And you know how old I am how?
  • aethelberga, on 09/24/2008, -4/+33Selling endangered species with pride is one thing. Sell them with fries, then you've got my attention!
  • Patent, on 09/24/2008, -9/+3Something fishy's going on here.

    Lame, I know.
  • roffelmeh, on 09/24/2008, -3/+5so?
  • DrMilkdad, on 09/24/2008, -8/+12Robert DeNiro is a renegade. And renegades CAN and DO whatever they want.

    also, Robert DeNiro is awesome.
    • TheLakeTroll, on 09/24/2008, -1/+3Spoken like a true horsedad.
    • kelmaster1, on 09/24/2008, -0/+3Is he a maverick? A renegade ain't ***** against a maverick.
      • somedirtbag, on 09/24/2008, -0/+1He's a marauder. Ten times the awesome.
  • atlquaker, on 09/24/2008, -4/+1I knew I tasted polar bear in my burger! F you deniro!
  • ufia, on 09/24/2008, -2/+16What's wrong with the meal? Don't like the fish? Eh? Don't like the fish? Look at me! I'm speaking to you! Don't like the fish? Don't like the ***** fish?
  • Devilboy666, on 09/24/2008, -2/+7Blue fin Tuna is sold all over Australia in any supermarket. I didn't know some countries consider it endangered?
    • tghd, on 09/24/2008, -1/+9Its not the same species, Mediterranean Blue Fin isn't sold in mass quantities anymore because there isn't any left.
  • Thundercracker, on 09/24/2008, -10/+12seriously have any of you retards actually tried blue-fin tuna sushi???...........you'd shut the F*CK up when you actually realized how great it tastes....
  • russ3, on 09/24/2008, -3/+76WTF is an undercover greenpeace operative? does he wear leather to blend in with us godless carnivores?
  • DestroyFascism, on 09/24/2008, -2/+2And they don't pay staff on trial..

    So if you end up with a snotty looking Oyster.........
    • palehorse864, on 09/24/2008, -0/+1..... It's probably just your average, regular-old oyster.
  • fearlessfx, on 09/24/2008, -1/+20I didn't know Greenpeace had "Undercover Operatives"... How undercover do you need to be to go into a restaurant, ask for a meal to go, then head back to a lab to test it.
  • toobueller, on 09/24/2008, -15/+9Buried, just because it's PETA
    • camilos007, on 09/24/2008, -4/+12Its greenpeace you jack ass. Learn to read your illiterate *****.
      • thetedster180, on 09/24/2008, -2/+3*you
      • camilos007, on 09/24/2008, -4/+3I know, I know, i made a typo. But who cares, he can't read anyway.
      • itsthebrod, on 09/24/2008, -1/+1Doesn't matter, still worth a bury. Greenpeace is almost as bad.
  • dashboardradio, on 09/24/2008, -0/+42Japanese don't really give a ***** about what's endangered or not.
    • magus_melchior, on 09/24/2008, -1/+3The Telegraph says it's the London locations, so that's one point against your broadside on an entirely different island nation. What's more, the reports suggest that it's isolated to London, which makes sense, because transporting Atlantic fish halfway across the globe is painfully expensive right now.

      Also, the only reason Greenpeace did this is because Japanese chefs prefer bluefin, and because De Niro is attached to the restaurant chain. They are attention whores, for good or ill-- they spouted ***** when they railed at Apple, but they are accurate this time.

      Some Japanese care about what's endangered. Some wish their government would stop whaling under stupid pretenses and overfishing the seas.
      • dashboardradio, on 09/24/2008, -0/+2From the article:
        “Mr. Notar said he would like to take bluefin off the menu altogether, but the move was being resisted by the chain’s Japanese chefs who serve it in sushi and sashimi. In Japan, bluefin is considered the most delicious of all tuna species.”

        Mr. Notar being the one in charge of the restaurants. Greenpeace only tested the ones in London, so it being "isolated in London" is a rather moot point; this could be more wide-spread.

        I'm more likely to believe that the only reason this was reported and posted on here is because De Niro is attached to it; not that I have any affiliation with them, but Greenpeace does more than you think.

        Where are these caring Japanese? They don't seem to be doing anything to stop the whaling or overfishing. It's the english, australians, and americans risking their lives to put an end to these activities, while the government turns a blind eye.
    • gridity, on 09/24/2008, -0/+4Obviously not all Japanese are careless with the ecosystem, but it's in keeping with what I've heard....I have a friend who is a part of the Sea Shepherd group that goes out and tries to stop Japanese whalers. The Japanese pretend they're doing scientific studies of whales, but really they're slaughtering thousands of what are supposed to be "protected" whales for the meat and oil. The Sea Shepherd is the only ship (I know of) that is out there trying to stop them. Interestingly, virtually ANYONE can join them on their expeditions - my friend was a full time web developer in NYC, and he got his company to let him go for two months to try to protect whales. He basically just had to pay for his plane ticket to Australia. His company obviously didn't pay him during this hiatus, but they let him go and come back. He said it was the experience of a lifetime - being in the open sea, seeing hundreds of whales, working with those passionate about our environment, and of course, the "thrill" of confronting the Japanese whalers.

      So if you're up for a total life adventure and really care about protecting the endangered species... go check them out. http://www.seashepherd.org/
  • pr0phet88, on 09/24/2008, -2/+4Lol he partially ***** owns it. that means that he put up some money in it so he could makes some... thats it. i doubt he actually does anything but go in and get free food but this makes it seem like he started up the ***** resteraunt chain and should take responsibility!

    False
  • kelsosmythe, on 09/24/2008, -5/+7Nuke the whales!!

    • changedmind, on 09/24/2008, -1/+3No, you need to cook them nice and slow. Smoked is good but not nuked.
    • thecoolestguy, on 09/24/2008, -0/+1poor whales.
    • JohnnyJpg, on 09/24/2008, -0/+1In the great words of GWAR:
      Saving the whales an agenda to some
      Nuking them sits well with me!
    • yragrelluf, on 09/24/2008, -0/+1and club them baby seals!
    • ellecon, on 09/24/2008, -0/+3Gotta nuke something.
    • iamansp2008, on 09/26/2008, -0/+1how about Polar bears moron.
  • DiggEKE, on 09/24/2008, -2/+7Don't blame DiNiro, it's the manager's fault. DeNiro is just a silent partner. He doesn't partake in daily ops!

    • magus_melchior, on 09/24/2008, -0/+1I'm sure the blogger's (and Greenpeace's) point is that De Niro can easily put a stop to this using his celebrity.

      And a Tommy gun. You gotta do the Scarface thing if you want a manager to ***** his pants.
  • franklymister, on 09/24/2008, -14/+15Douglas Adams was right about humanity.

    If someone discovered a giant red button labeled DO NOT TOUCH - UNIVERSE SELF DESTRUCTION BUTTON, there would be a mad rush to press it, just to see what it does.

    Keep on treating the ecosystem like a joke, after all, what harm could six billion humans possibly do?
    • changedmind, on 09/24/2008, -10/+5Do the worls a favour then and check the ***** out.
    • bobartig, on 09/24/2008, -2/+4To be fair, we already know the ecological repercussions of having no blue fin tuna. That's basically where we are now. We've fished some areas clean. I'm sure it shifts the ecology about, promotes some species here and there, but there was no great human genocide over the loss of tuna. Same as with the dodo bird, and whatever other species we've managed to destroy.

      There are no immediate tidal shifts as a result of us eating a species to nonexistance, its a gradual process. The main repercussion is that (in this case) the world gets a lot less tasty when we finish off the tunas. For certain, that sucks a fat one. But you're mumbling to yourself in the corner "just you wait, humans, you'll see!!!" It just doesn't work that way.
      • franklymister, on 09/24/2008, -2/+2The point isn't whether one species going extinct is going to destroy the world.

        My point is that it all adds up. I'm sure it's hilarious to rape the environment daily by acting like just another animal species when we are actually a 6 billion strong, technologically advanced animal capable of ***** in our own food dish so much that we end up driving ourselves to ruin - I guess I just don't get the joke.

        When one species on an island overtaxes its surroundings, the worst that can happen is that it runs out of food, or destroys its own habitat, and dies out on that island. The difference is, we're doing it on the entire planet, and we don't have another one to just hop to after we screw this one up.

        We're like a frog in boiling water. Since we can't see the effects of each little action, we figure that nothing bad will ever happen. I'm not saying that killing off every blue fin tuna is going to wreak planetwide disaster. I'm just saying that making it into a boast on a menu is pathetic.
      • sunamc, on 09/24/2008, -1/+3to add to what fanklymister was saying:

        It is difficult to predict what will happen to ecosystems if species are gradually removed.

        Species within an ecosystem are interdependent. Therefore the removal of one species COULD have devastating effects. Although not all species are equal. Some species (keystone) will cause bigger changes to resilience and stability than other species. As for the tune species in the article, I'm not too sure. and again it brings me back to my first point:

        It is difficult to predict what will happen to ecosystems if species are gradually removed.
    • frankb00th, on 09/24/2008, -0/+1great point
      check out this gem of a doc if you can www.sharkwater.com
      drives the point home
  • bphicke, on 09/24/2008, -7/+17Good for him. We need to be eating these tasty creatures while there are still some left.
  • nemo001, on 09/24/2008, -8/+3So, by marking menu items as endangered, the restaurant is, in essence, saying: 1. If you don't eat this endangered species treat, it won't be on the menu any more or 2. it is you who should feel guilty about ordering this finely cooked endangered species; it is endangered for a reason. The dissonance I'd feel trying to decide would probably force me to get up and leave. Or I'd order a salad.
  • rotendo, on 09/24/2008, -7/+5There are many, many, many, many more uncountable issues far more important and pertinent for us to worry about then some stupid fish. Sorry for being harsh, but its the truth, and if you don't like it, then your priorities are all screwed up. See the economy please.
  • ashfish, on 09/24/2008, -2/+6So, how does that work? It's endangered but its not illegal to sell it? Doesn't that kind of undermine the point of the "endangered" status? Or is it not really endangered and just subject to ***** farming practices and "might become endangered" in Greenpeace's eyes?

    Tuna FTW (I prefer yellow fin but that's just me)
  • KevinWhite, on 09/24/2008, -4/+4mmm, Bluefin Tuna is delicious!
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