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Halo 3 Shatters one day sale records
majornelson.com — $170 dollars in one day alone...wow.
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- supertom, on 10/31/2007, -7/+697$170? In ONE day? Now that IS a lot!
- wang1011, on 10/10/2007, -8/+264They sold 3 copies!! Congratulations!!!
- Blant, on 10/10/2007, -3/+853 copies at $60 each is 180, one of them must have had a coupon.
- BlackMask, on 10/10/2007, -14/+6you suck at maths
- g00ee, on 10/11/2007, -28/+7Yeah, that's almost 3 whole copies!
- bsolidgold, on 10/10/2007, -4/+48They gave a discount on one because it was scratched.
- bsolidgold, on 10/10/2007, -12/+101That's like $21.25 an hour!
- mywhitenoise, on 10/10/2007, -7/+23How the ***** do you figure that? $170 divided by 24 is $7.08 an hour. And on top of that you got 52 diggs!
- SlappyMc, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4Im pretty sure he was making a joke based on the mistake in the descrip. get it?
$170 a day is wrong...
likewise, $21.25 an hour is wrong.. see funny :)
- SlappyMc, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4Im pretty sure he was making a joke based on the mistake in the descrip. get it?
- arcooke, on 10/10/2007, -3/+9How he figured: $170 / 8hours = $21.25 .. I don't know what business in their right mind only stays open 8 hours a day but eh.. at least he tried.
- sishgupta, on 10/10/2007, -4/+2banks
the post
the rest of the government
lazy bastards - chris9902, on 10/10/2007, -4/+29-5. Most places are only open 8 hours.
- sishgupta, on 10/10/2007, -4/+2banks
- bsolidgold, on 10/10/2007, -8/+11I don't know about you morons, but I only work 8 hours a day.
- monsterenergy, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5And I assume your the only employee where you work? So wherever you work only stays open 8 hours a day.
- bsolidgold, on 10/10/2007, -8/+5Wow, you guys never cease to amaze me. Yes. I don't work retail. I don't deliver pizzas. I don't work in a restaurant. I have a 9-5 job... so does everyone else I work with.
Is it that hard for you kids to grasp the concept of working 9-5? Stay in school. You don't have to work nights and weekends if you get an education.
- mywhitenoise, on 10/10/2007, -7/+23How the ***** do you figure that? $170 divided by 24 is $7.08 an hour. And on top of that you got 52 diggs!
- AlphaPrime, on 10/10/2007, -2/+38Or one legendary! Hooray for Cat helmets!
- Nobi-Wan, on 10/10/2007, -5/+5I actually bought one of the Legendary versions (I had a ton of gift cards) and trust me...they're normal sized helmets. The box it comes in is bigger than the box for the Xbox 360 itself.
- BabyWookie, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Yeah, but can you wear it on Halloween? I didn't think so.
- Nobi-Wan, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I'm sure if you REALLY wanted to you could do some tinkering and cut out the plastic underneath and add a clear facemask. The thing is the size of a football helmet.
- Nobi-Wan, on 10/10/2007, -5/+5I actually bought one of the Legendary versions (I had a ton of gift cards) and trust me...they're normal sized helmets. The box it comes in is bigger than the box for the Xbox 360 itself.
- jotate, on 10/10/2007, -2/+41It's 170 dollars dollars in one day. The two dimensional measurement of revenue made in one day from Halo 3 sales is 170 dollars^2, clearly shattering the previous record.
- gn0stik, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7What was the previous record for dollars^2?
- gameboyhippo, on 10/10/2007, -38/+9Please excuse my fanboyism. When you only have one really great game for your console + hype + advertising, you're going to do well. We're going to see a similar effect with the PS3 release of FFXIII (only good game + hype + advertising).
- potp, on 10/10/2007, -1/+22as much as i dislike xbox 360 i have to hand it to MS for the halo franchise. they did everything perfect when it came to marketing Halo. No matter what sony tries it will never be able to pull something like this off because even FF is not this big, sony generally sucks at marketing (god the PSP, Walkman ads are atrocious to say the lest) and sony still doesnt have a large enough installed user base. With halo 3 its most definetly a 3 way race for the next gen console and not like it was with the previous generation.
- incubusnb, on 10/10/2007, -1/+23one really great game? so Gears of war isn't great? Dead rising isn't great? Project Gotham isn't great? what about Forza Motersports, Kameo, Bioshock, Oblivion? are they not great games?
excuse my fanboyism, but the PS3 only has a handful of great titles, and not much on the horizon that looks great besides GT5. The Wii is great for Parties and a few other games, but the 360 has, imo, the best selection of the 3.
Then theres PC, can't argue PC, been around since the beginning, will be around till the end- staticneuron, on 10/10/2007, -3/+1Sure, I'll excuse the fanboyism. I love dead rising and gears of war. But the rest are mediocre and/or PC ports. The sving grace of most Playstation exclusives is that the majority of them have been good and haven't been ported to pc.
- cplex, on 10/10/2007, -2/+17ONE good game? You're kidding right?
That's not fanboyism, that's idiocy. http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/simplerat ...- kaplanfx, on 10/10/2007, -12/+1Yep, looks like only 8 XBOX 360 games have an average score over 90%, and of those only half are platform exclusive (granted you could say 90% above is a great game, but honestly we are talking about "must have" titles here)
- cplex, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8I never said there were 50 great games -- just that it's moronic to say there is just ONE.
- nattybohman, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Uh, yeah. Compared to how many PS3 "must haves"? As a PS3 owner I can name ONE - Resistance. Even that game is mediocre when compared to Gears and Bioshock. That's right, and Halo 3. Almost forgot that one. ALL EXCLUSIVES.
- kaplanfx, on 10/10/2007, -12/+1Yep, looks like only 8 XBOX 360 games have an average score over 90%, and of those only half are platform exclusive (granted you could say 90% above is a great game, but honestly we are talking about "must have" titles here)
- Calcularius, on 10/10/2007, -6/+30You must have used MS Excel to come up with that figure.
- Firehed, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2I guess nobody else got the reference. Shame - a lot of people are going to get audited around tax time this year.
- ph3rny, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5only if they pay $65535 dollars in taxes
- Firehed, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2I guess nobody else got the reference. Shame - a lot of people are going to get audited around tax time this year.
- supaklaw, on 10/10/2007, -6/+5Yeah I bought a copy.... and my xbox died. Yaaaay!
- ninja0, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Yeah I bought an xbox360..... and then halo3. Yaaaaay!
- airiox, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7It's coming from a guy with the sc of sonysucks, what do you expect?
- wang1011, on 10/10/2007, -8/+264They sold 3 copies!! Congratulations!!!
- jimbojim, on 10/10/2007, -12/+255That $170 million made in one day (in the US alone) makes the $10 million they spent on advertising seem like a drop in the bucket. Money well spent, apparently.
- Microdot, on 10/10/2007, -25/+2not sure where you got the $10 million figure from. last i heard, they had already passed $120 million in advertising.
- popfrogs, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11Sources you guys?
- Myonosken, on 10/10/2007, -0/+21120million?! Seriously, I doubt that HIGHLY.
- ninja0, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3as do i.
- ch33sehead, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3$120 million? My God they must've given out some Halo blowjobs or something.
- Zyphron, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Given the fact that none of you are giving any sources, I doubt all of it.
That said, I HEARD they spent 1 BILLION Dollars! - hockey, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1This is digg. You no longer need sources.
- Pritchard, on 10/10/2007, -1/+13@Microdat: Sounds like what I heard, too, but I've heard different figures. Who knows if they get anything back from their promotions such as in Drinks and stuff getting more popular because of Halo.
170 mil, eh? In a DAY? Where's my Halo movie with a *good* budget, bitches? - Nobi-Wan, on 10/10/2007, -1/+16They get a lot of sponsorship cash from Pontiac, Mountain Dew, and Best Buy, though.
- troye, on 10/10/2007, -3/+10Seriously, why can't they hurry up with the damn movie?
- RedX117, on 10/10/2007, -6/+1The movie is gonna suck anyway. There's no way it will measure up to the games or novels... They should just drop the whole thing... Fox and Universal already did so the moie last I heard will not be in theatres. It will just be out on DVD or something...
- maxsunset, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3That IS the point of marketing!
- supaklaw, on 10/10/2007, -3/+3Actually that's a waste of 10 million... it would have sold either way... no hype necessary.
- archimago42, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Last I checked we were talking about Microsoft. The billions they used to develop the entire system were a drop in the bucket.
- energizerrabbit, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8Halo3 advertised itself.
- Microdot, on 10/10/2007, -25/+2not sure where you got the $10 million figure from. last i heard, they had already passed $120 million in advertising.
- cutlarock, on 10/10/2007, -21/+10Unbelievable. So what kind of an effect, if any, does this have on the console war?
- trisquithere, on 10/10/2007, -33/+8the war is over. wii won.
- potp, on 10/10/2007, -5/+18the wii is waining. there has been some what of a buyers remorse. after the novelty value of the wiimote dried of their isnt much the console can offer. Although the wii is not a fad its definitely beginning to get negative perception among consumers and its growing
- akf2000, on 10/10/2007, -3/+12I'm a wii owner and I endorse this message.
- BabyWookie, on 10/10/2007, -2/+10It's funny how at my local Best Buy, they now have Wii's sitting on the shelves, while they are all sold out of 360 Premiums.
- gritta, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Yup, I feel I have wasted money on my Wii. Haven't played it for a couple of months now. Its funny that Wii Sports is one of the best games for it.
- ericrous, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Except the Wii and the 360 aren't at war. Different audiences, different game types, different developer focuses.
- potp, on 10/10/2007, -5/+18the wii is waining. there has been some what of a buyers remorse. after the novelty value of the wiimote dried of their isnt much the console can offer. Although the wii is not a fad its definitely beginning to get negative perception among consumers and its growing
- TheTaoOfBill, on 10/10/2007, -13/+4I predict this will cause a surge in 360 purchases and put it in the lead once again for a few months until the halo effect dies down and the Wii will once again take the lead.
- gn0stik, on 10/10/2007, -7/+25Wii's novelty has worn off. Everyone's sick of playing the same old games with the same old graphics with new controllers. Limited new content titles = lose.
- TheTaoOfBill, on 10/10/2007, -3/+8I agree. I am sick of it too. But the fact is the thing is still selling at an amazing rate and lately the 360 has been losing sales. But who knows maybe the halo effect will be larger than expected. And perhaps the large amount of good 360 games that have been coming out in the past month or two will help a lot but I just don't see the 360 overtaking the wii for too long.
- BabyWookie, on 10/10/2007, -5/+3It's funny how at my local Best Buy, they now have Wii's sitting on the shelves, while they are all sold out of 360 Premiums.
- mandrakeRaptor, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4you might be right, the halo effect may die down eventually...but then there was Call of Duty 4, and the Wii will still be old news.
- Psythik, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10You're wrong, TheTaoOfBill. The Wii may be winning in Japan, but in the rest of the world, the 360 still dominates and has yet to be overtaken.
Sources:
America:
http://vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=Wii®1=Ame ...
Europe:
http://vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=Wii®1=Oth ...
Australia:
http://vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=Wii®1=Oth ...
Everywhere except for America & Japan (which proves that the Wii is only having insane success in Japan):
http://vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=Wii®1=Tot ...
I'm not being a fanboy, I'm just stating the facts that many forget to mention.- TheTaoOfBill, on 10/10/2007, -6/+3http://vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=Wii®1=All ...
I am talking about worldwide sales. That link shows that worldwide the Wii is winning. Personally I like the 360 more and I agree the 360 is very successful in America. But worldwide the Wii has passed the 360 in sales. I think we will see the 360 retake the lead from the halo effect but over the holidays the Wii will experience the Mario effect and the Super Smash Bros effect. Niether of those are quite as big as Halo but together it will probably bring it back above the 360. I hope that the 360 will over take the Wii again but it's my completely unqualified guess that it won't.- B1663r, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Ok so you get your moral win because of Japanese cultural trade barriers (racism), but the xbox still wins because it has better games.
- TheTaoOfBill, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Why is everyone under the impression that I'm trying to win something? I wish I could stand here and tell you the 360 is beating the Wii worldwide. I love my 360 and I haven't touched my Wii in months! I think the 360 was a much better buy. I am only stating the facts. Stop acting like i'm trying to win some contest here. Sheesh you fanboys are so sensitive when your favorite console doesn't do as well as it could in sales.
- neiltc13, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1If you're going to give sources, please actually give real ones and not some stupid website which fabricates sales figures. I cannot honestly believe that people trust that website - they have NO AUTHORITY whatsoever.
- TheTaoOfBill, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6I only used it because it was used against me. I have no clue if it's reliable...but apparently it was reliable enough to be used against my comment so I figured it was reliable enough to use to support my claim.
- TheTaoOfBill, on 10/10/2007, -6/+3http://vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=Wii®1=All ...
- Christbait, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7Yes, of course. when GTA4 comes out for the X360 and the PS3, by some miracle everyone will suddenly feel the urge to go to the shop and buy the next torrent of Mario Spin-offs coming out for the Wii !
Yay !
- supermanred, on 10/10/2007, -6/+12Console war? I think it's over. For non-gamers and casual gamers, the wii is it. For gamers, nothing beats (yet) the xbox live experience and ease of playing, forming clans,voice chat cross-games etc. voice chat during game with lip syncing, etc... Im sure the PS3 will patch a lot of stuff in, so the war isnt quite totally over, but the 360 is a whole lot of fun.
- Pikachelsea, on 10/10/2007, -6/+4Please stop acting like the only people who play Wii are "non-gamers and casual gamers".
- trisquithere, on 10/10/2007, -33/+8the war is over. wii won.
- crabesa, on 10/10/2007, -40/+7so im guessing that $170 didnt beat spiderman 3s opening total then
- beean45, on 10/10/2007, -3/+42"The Xbox 360 title beat previous records set by blockbuster theatrical releases like 'Spider-man 3' and novels such as 'Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows'" So i would yes, yes it did.
- KevinRWright, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2learn to read. He said that $170 didn't beat $150,000,000. He was making a joke, not a good one, but still a joke.
- cool8man, on 10/10/2007, -3/+24Spider-man 3 made $150M in the first weekend. Halo 3 made $170M in one day.
The seventh Harry Potter book held the all-time sales record for the first 24-hours. Not sure what the numbers were though.- Microdot, on 10/10/2007, -9/+2actually... if we want to get technical... halo only sold around 120 million yesterday. the overwhelming majority (80%+) were preorders.
- Myonosken, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10If Halo sold 120 million yesterday, and sold 170million in total, how is that 20%?
- Microdot, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1because the remainder was collected weeks/months ago.
- Myonosken, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10If Halo sold 120 million yesterday, and sold 170million in total, how is that 20%?
- Microdot, on 10/10/2007, -9/+2actually... if we want to get technical... halo only sold around 120 million yesterday. the overwhelming majority (80%+) were preorders.
- cyrix, on 10/10/2007, -8/+24What people also need to realize is that this game costs 60 dollars. So 170 million divided by 60 bucks is around 2.8 million people who went out and bought it.
Now take spiderman 3's opening weekend take of 150 million and divide by say about 9 bucks or so for a movie ticket and you end up with around 16.6 million people going to see it.- Crumbeast, on 10/10/2007, -3/+23Yes, more people saw the movie. That doesnt take away from the fact that the game made more money.
- popfrogs, on 10/10/2007, -5/+5Yeah, but the fact that the game costs $60 vs. a $9 movie ticket *does*.
If Kia sells 200 Sorentos and Lamborghini sells one car, and the Lamborghini is $5 more expensive than 200 Kias, do you say Lamborghini sold more in one day? It's just...retarded. You can't even compare sales that way.- Crumbeast, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1How does the fact that the game costs more take away from the fact that it made more? Especially when you consider that a film probably costs more to produce than a video game...
- neiltc13, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5Nobody should even be COMPARING. Microsoft is only throwing that statistic in there as a marketing gimmick.
- popfrogs, on 10/10/2007, -5/+5Yeah, but the fact that the game costs $60 vs. a $9 movie ticket *does*.
- Nimsim, on 10/10/2007, -3/+6Crumbeast, you don't seem to understand. Here it's explained very simply:
"When it comes to revenue, "Spider-Man 3" again is expected to smack down "Halo 3." After shattering the opening weekend box-office record, the movie ultimately grossed $890 million worldwide. From those ticket sales, Sony will pocket about $450 million. The title is expected to be a top seller on DVD and in Sony's high-definition Blu-ray format this holiday season. Sony will reap $750 million from the video disc sales, analyst Baine said. Television and video-on-demand rights around the world are expected to generate nearly $170 million.
Altogether, Spidey's third outing will probably bring in $1.366 billion in revenue for Sony.
Master Chief's take-home pay isn't expected to be as lucrative. The game may sell as many as 10 million copies at an average retail price of $70 for a total of $700 million in sales, said Colin Sebastian, an analyst with Lazard Capital Markets. Of that, Microsoft will get about 80%, or $560 million."
at http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-halo24sep24, ...
Anyways, this article says expected marketing and promoting the product will land on 15-20 mill, if people here say they already used 120+ million in advertising this number has to be adjusted. - Nimsim, on 10/10/2007, -10/+2Crumbeast, you don't seem to understand. Here it's explained very simply:
"When it comes to revenue, "Spider-Man 3" again is expected to smack down "Halo 3." After shattering the opening weekend box-office record, the movie ultimately grossed $890 million worldwide. From those ticket sales, Sony will pocket about $450 million. The title is expected to be a top seller on DVD and in Sony's high-definition Blu-ray format this holiday season. Sony will reap $750 million from the video disc sales, analyst Baine said. Television and video-on-demand rights around the world are expected to generate nearly $170 million.
Altogether, Spidey's third outing will probably bring in $1.366 billion in revenue for Sony.
Master Chief's take-home pay isn't expected to be as lucrative. The game may sell as many as 10 million copies at an average retail price of $70 for a total of $700 million in sales, said Colin Sebastian, an analyst with Lazard Capital Markets. Of that, Microsoft will get about 80%, or $560 million."
at http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-halo24sep24, ...
Anyways, this article says expected marketing and promoting the product will land on $15-20 mill, if people here say they already used $120+ million in advertising, this number has to be adjusted. - ericrous, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Yeah, and Spiderman 3 also cost $200+ million just to PRODUCE, as opposed to Halo 3, which probably had about a $30+ million development cost.
- Crumbeast, on 10/10/2007, -3/+23Yes, more people saw the movie. That doesnt take away from the fact that the game made more money.
- beean45, on 10/10/2007, -3/+42"The Xbox 360 title beat previous records set by blockbuster theatrical releases like 'Spider-man 3' and novels such as 'Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows'" So i would yes, yes it did.
- Wingman15, on 10/10/2007, -19/+13That is a lot of money for a video game. WOW
- IIIKrazyKiDDIII, on 10/10/2007, -3/+9Its not World of Warcraft, its Halo3, Gosh get it right!
- IIIKrazyKiDDIII, on 10/10/2007, -3/+9Its not World of Warcraft, its Halo3, Gosh get it right!
- tristanjh, on 10/10/2007, -9/+154Microsoft today announced that the Xbox 360 exclusive game “Halo 3” has officially become the biggest entertainment launch in history, garnering an estimated $170 million in sales in the United States alone in the first 24 hours. The Xbox 360 title beat previous records set by blockbuster theatrical releases like “Spider-man 3” and novels such as “Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows.”
“Halo 3” is the conclusion to the epic trilogy and picks up where “Halo 2” left off, answering questions around the fates of the beloved protagonist Master Chief and his artificial intelligence sidekick Cortana as they struggle to save humankind from destruction at the hands of the alien coalition known as the Covenant. In addition to the rich storyline, “Halo 3” continues the franchise’s grand tradition of delivering innovative online multiplayer experiences via Xbox LIVE, the world’s largest social network on TV.
“Halo 3 has become a pop-culture phenomenon,” said Shane Kim, corporate vice president of Microsoft Game Studios. “Not only is “Halo 3” setting sales records, it’s also redefining entertainment.
Within the first 20 hours alone, we’ve seen more than a million Xbox LIVE members come online to play Halo 3 – that makes September 25 the most active Xbox LIVE gaming day in history.”
Retailers have also expressed their excitement about the launch of “Halo 3.”
Bob McKenzie, Senior Vice President of Merchandising for GameStop Corp commented that, “With consumer demand for Halo 3 and related products, we expect it to be the biggest video game title generator in GameStop's history."
“The initial demand we’ve seen for ‘Halo 3’ has been astounding, and the game is on track to become the number one gaming title of all time. ‘Halo 3’ is a genuine entertainment phenomenon and our customers have responded very enthusiastically to the release,” said Jill Hamburger, vice president of movies and games at Best Buy.
Developed by Bungie Studios, the “Halo” franchise is exclusive to the Xbox 360 video game and entertainment system and optimized for the Xbox LIVE® online entertainment network. The more than 7 million Xbox LIVE users will get a continually evolving gaming experience with “Halo 3.” Its online multiplayer and cooperative gameplay for Xbox LIVE Gold users, the much-talked-about Saved Films feature that enables players to capture and save their favorite moments on their hard drives, and Forge, an innovative map editor that enables infinite customization options are just some of the new features to experience.
More than 10,000 retailers hosted Midnight Madness events to celebrate the launch of this third installment in the billion-dollar franchise. In New York, Seattle, Miami and Los Angeles, Microsoft and retail partners hosted marquee launch events that featured contests and appearances by local celebrities and professional athletes who are fanatical about the “Halo” franchise, including Ludacris and Zac Efron and Microsoft Chairman Bill Gates.
More than 1.7 million copies of “Halo 3” were preordered in the United States before a single store opened its doors at midnight, Sept. 25, making this the fasting pre-selling game in history, surpassing the previous record-setting pre-sales of “Halo 2.” Well beyond just a U.S. phenomenon, the launch of “Halo 3” was a worldwide celebration that released in 37 countries and available in 17 languages.- mrASSMAN, on 10/10/2007, -4/+50Biggest entertainment launch, not just games? Wow.. they hit it out of the park this time around.
- Firehed, on 10/10/2007, -6/+6Well you do have to consider that it costs eight times as much than a movie does.
- duzytata, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5And I bet more than eight times as many people go to the movies but don't play video games. These are impressive numbers.
- mrASSMAN, on 10/10/2007, -5/+4I don't think that's true. I've never heard of a video game costing as much as a blockbuster film. Did you just pull that out of your ass?
Considering some films cost more than $200 million, that would mean that you're saying Halo 3 cost almost 2 billion dollars to produce.. most high budget games are more like $20 million.- Shorties, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2No he meant for the consumer to see a movie it costs like 1/8th the price.
- staticneuron, on 10/10/2007, -4/+2Whhy is firehed getting dugg down? he is right. As a matter of fact people seem to be only calculating the regular game sales. the numbers become skewed for those who purchased the higher sku's me and my friends purchased the legendary editions. ringing up at 137 after taxes really should mess with the numbers because I count as 2 regular edition sales and if you want to make a comparison to movie tickets I alone would equal 17 people.
- bingobongony, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4Maybe he is getting dugg down becuase no one is tallking about how many people purchased the game versus the number of people that purchased tickets to a movie, or purchased a book. Who the hell cares about number of people? MONEY is what businesses are all about. The fact that Halo costs so much more than a movie ticket makes it all the more impressive that it sold so well. If it cost $8-10, it would have sold even more.
- staticneuron, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2You're lost. The sheer fact that halo cost so much more than a movie ticket is what makes it unimpressive. It takes alot less halo 3 sales to attain those same numbers. Not to mention it takes less money to make a game than it does a summer blockbuster. If the game cost only $8-10 dollars with the same amount of people then the returns would have been dismal.
The logic seems to be lost on people. Excluding the legendary($130) and limited($75) let us say the average prise is $60. To attain $170 mill 2.8 million regular copies of halo 3 sold would be needed to attain that number. For a movie to attain that you would need 21.2 million people to attain similar sales. And that is being generous towards halo 3.
The fact that it is sold so much is a given and not a point of comparison. That's simiilar to comparing the sales results of 20 Bugatti Veyron to 1,287 Scion TC's. The profits are similar but what it took to get there, isn't. it is idiotic to argue otherwise.
- Firehed, on 10/10/2007, -6/+6Well you do have to consider that it costs eight times as much than a movie does.
- moskaudancer, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11"...Microsoft and retail partners hosted marquee launch events that featured contests and appearances by local celebrities and professional athletes who are fanatical about the “Halo” franchise..."
So what's Gates' GamerTag? I want to see if he's any better at Halo than I am, which for ordinary gamers is not a problem...- Nimsim, on 10/10/2007, -6/+2I think he's more busy making money out of us idiots, than to actually sit down and use his own products.
- Firehed, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5Gates makes more money in interest in a day than most of us will make in our entire lives. I'm sure if he wants to sit down and play a game, he'll survive.
- slackerjack, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Instead of calling it 'interest' i would say he makes more 'earnings'.
- Nimsim, on 10/10/2007, -6/+2I think he's more busy making money out of us idiots, than to actually sit down and use his own products.
- stvspl, on 10/10/2007, -20/+10Well
Books cost 10-20bucks
Movies cost 10 bucks
This game costs 60 bucks.
So I guess it's a little skewed.- mustbepatient, on 10/10/2007, -4/+13Well really, the money is what matters, rather than units - no?
- stvspl, on 10/10/2007, -4/+5I was just pointing out that it makes sense that it was the biggest entertainment opening of all time, even though it has a more limited audience.
sheesh people. it was a valid point. trying to seed out the idiots. - Eleo, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4From a business perspective I'd say money is more important than units. But as far as breaking records I feel it should be by units or adjusted for price. I mean out of Harry Potter and Spiderman 3 tickets, Halo 3 is the most expensive, $59.99 at the least and $100+ at the most, so in many ways it had an unfair advantage for breaking the record. Not to say that it's not still incredible it sold that well.
- stvspl, on 10/10/2007, -4/+5I was just pointing out that it makes sense that it was the biggest entertainment opening of all time, even though it has a more limited audience.
- yosempai, on 10/10/2007, -3/+2Mix into that Pre-orders...
- opnickc, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7New books cost 10-$20? I recall Harry Potter being $30-$40.
- stvspl, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3http://urltea.com/1lgn?amazon-harry-potter
I bought mine for 15 bucks, preorder from borders. - ElectricGrandpa, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Yeah, but this game also took a bunch of years to develop, as opposed to the number of months it takes a movie.
- expert01, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Kind of like Saw 4, which was shot in six weeks.
- Psythik, on 10/16/2007, -2/+9Speaking of which, I'm surprised that Harry Potter even sold so well. The multiplayer sucks!
- stvspl, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3http://urltea.com/1lgn?amazon-harry-potter
- LowROI, on 10/10/2007, -1/+74 buddies can't get into a theatre for 10-20 bucks.
- mustbepatient, on 10/10/2007, -4/+13Well really, the money is what matters, rather than units - no?
- mustbepatient, on 10/10/2007, -13/+5“The initial demand we’ve seen for ‘Halo 3’ has been astounding, and the game is on track to become the number one gaming title of all time. ‘Halo 3’ is a genuine entertainment phenomenon and our customers have responded very enthusiastically to the release,” said Jill Hamburger, vice president of movies and games at Best Buy.
I call BS - unless they are on track to sell four copies to each 360 owner, they're not going to touch SMB!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_ ...- andrews240, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1If you had not abbreviated Super Mario Brothers you may not have been buried. Mario is money in the bank baby!
- Nobi-Wan, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Super Mario Brothers is also 22 years old. How many times have people bought the game over the years? Or re-bought it?
- kosmoss, on 10/10/2007, -9/+2Good luck morons.
- GrayvDigger, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1Do people even have that many Xboxes 360? :) Seriously though, the numbers are reported by M$ themselves, so a bit of an "exaggeration" is to be expected, I think.
- mrASSMAN, on 10/10/2007, -4/+50Biggest entertainment launch, not just games? Wow.. they hit it out of the park this time around.
- skinsgamer, on 10/10/2007, -18/+7My Xbox is sick but hey at least I bought the game!
- supermanred, on 10/10/2007, -3/+2Mine too, but they were nice about the replacement and within a week or so I should be shooting people online again. my gamertag is same as my digg name, add me up bud!
- neiltc13, on 10/10/2007, -51/+11I wish that good games would sell well rather than stupid average rehashes of shooters. It's sickening to think that the best selling games are based not on quality one bit but instead on how much money the publisher has to spend on marketing.
Perhaps one day the games industry will be driven by quality rather than quantity. For now though, classics like Tribes and FlatOut will stay on shelves while crap like this gets bought by people who will no doubt be disappointed.
Colour me disgusted.- Comanche, on 10/10/2007, -24/+12Yeah I agree. Halo3 is crap compared to the awsome games of the Atari 2600 days. Classics like Boxing, and Pole Position will stay on shelves while crap like this gets bought by people who will no doubt be dissappointed.
- thebaron2, on 10/10/2007, -8/+33I haven't heard from a single soul yet that said they were disappointed - and this game would have been HUGE with or without the advertising. Maybe not AS big, but still HUGE.
All of you guys who hate this game just need to deal with the fact that you're in the vast MINORITY. The people that bought this game DO think it's good. What you're essentially saying in the above post is "I wish that games that I THOUGHT WERE GOOD were sell really well. The game sold more $ worth on the first day than any entertainment opening EVER, including books, movies, etc... If it was a crap game, it just wouldn't sell that well.
Deal with it and get over it. - neiltc13, on 10/10/2007, -33/+7Never before have I seen a sequel so similar to its predecessors. It's the same damn game and you guys are spending like £40 on it all over again? Give me a break. It looks terrible, and it's generic. Man in suit goes to floating ring thing and fights aliens. Man in suit dies. The end. How original is that?!
- tristanjh, on 10/10/2007, -10/+7idiot doesnt know what hes talking about. goes and sucks ***** for £5 then gets the ending wrong. your life no doubt
- Aharoni, on 10/10/2007, -4/+23neiltc13's logic:
"I dislike the genre -> the game sucks, even for gamers who like the genre. Everyone, including the developers, should ONLY listen to ME and base their decisions on MY preferences."
Is the 13 in your nickname your age? sure seems that way...- neiltc13, on 10/10/2007, -20/+2Ah, but where your argument falls down is in the fact that the game has in no way changed since it was first released on Xbox in 2001. Make no mistake, this is the same game. Perhaps rather than calling it a sequel we should refer to this as a port.
- moskaudancer, on 10/10/2007, -3/+13So, you were expecting an RTS based on the exploits of Charlemagne...? Please at least tell us the things you would have expected from a "good" sequel.
- thebaron2, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6Dude, have you played it at all, and if so, was it for more than 5 minutes?
The AI is awesome, the weapons are better, the environments are beautiful, everything is recordable now - every campaign you've played, every multiplayer - the forge lets you completely customize every aspect of multiplayer... need I go on?
Matchmaking is much better, 4-way campaign coop is fun as hell... come on, get specific if you've really god that bad of a beef with the game. You remind me of a friend of mine who hates Halo because "jumping so high is unrealistic." What DOES satisfy you, besides the crappier games you mentioned in your original post? - Koldkompress, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3I personally agree with neitc13.
I was expecting that when I opened the case to Halo 3, the disc would jump out, slot itself into the Xbox 360 without me touching it.
I then expected Cortana to come out the screen and give me head, while Master chief went and did my laundry.
Neither of these things happened, thus I'm thoroughly disappointed with Halo 3, I give it 2/5 faps.
- neiltc13, on 10/10/2007, -20/+2Ah, but where your argument falls down is in the fact that the game has in no way changed since it was first released on Xbox in 2001. Make no mistake, this is the same game. Perhaps rather than calling it a sequel we should refer to this as a port.
- CraigJ, on 10/10/2007, -3/+12Spoken like someone who have played neither Halo, Halo 2 or Halo 3.
- ferrariman60, on 10/10/2007, -2/+8Can I just point out that your avatar is Jo Dark? Perfect Dark Zero sucked so much it's hard to describe...... and I have a 360, and will defend it avidly. I'd just like to see what your definition of a good game is. Because FlatOut was fun, but not exactly awesome, and Tribes wasn't really that great.
- neiltc13, on 10/10/2007, -12/+5Tribes 2 is my favourite game ever. Perfect Dark Zero is my favourite Xbox Live game (although if you only played the Single Player, I don't doubt that you think it's rubbish), closely followed by Forza Motorsport 2. The FlatOut series, along with Trackmania and any driving game released by Codemasters are also firm favourites.
I'm not really sure what I can do to convince you people of how average Halo is other than to ask you to take a step back and look at the game for the visual mess it is and then realise just how generic EVERYTHING in the game is. Let's face it, if this was the first game in the series and it didn't have the Halo name nor Microsoft behind it (let's say it was released by Activision for PS3 and Xbox 360 simultaneously) then you would all be with me. The game is average at best and in no way deserves any award for "Game of the Year" nor any score above 7/10.
I thought the Xbox hype had reached a nonsensical peak with Gears of War and Bioshock but I was wrong.- ferrariman60, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Ok, so you like Forza 2..... you aren't completely out of it. :) jk, to each his own. I realize that Halo 3 isn't awesome, ground breaking material, but it's still fun. And I don't know if you've read about Forge in Halo 3, but that is a lot of fun. It will add tons of life to the Mplayer of Halo 3. And I just beat Halo 3 last night, and it is actually pretty nice visually, to my surprise. So maybe give it a chance? At least it's better than Stranglehold, which is by far the most disappointing game I've played on the 360, sadly. And I didn't have gold when I played PDZ, so I didn't play Multiplay. But the single player game is awful. Truly awful.
- piper999, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Perfect Dark Zero multiplayer was brilliant.
- neiltc13, on 10/10/2007, -12/+5Tribes 2 is my favourite game ever. Perfect Dark Zero is my favourite Xbox Live game (although if you only played the Single Player, I don't doubt that you think it's rubbish), closely followed by Forza Motorsport 2. The FlatOut series, along with Trackmania and any driving game released by Codemasters are also firm favourites.
- Psythik, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7Take the time to actually PLAY the game before you make such an ignorant comment, neiltc.
- ericrous, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1One man's trash is another man's treasure.
- Nathrat, on 10/10/2007, -30/+3Awesome, now they can use that money to replace all the limited copies. If you don't know what I mean, check it out, http://www.nerdalerts.net/content/view/59/29/
- neiltc13, on 10/10/2007, -8/+203Why do people use both $ and the word "dollars" together? It's like saying one hundred and seventy million dollars dollars. It makes no sense whatsoever.
- SkippyDoorknob, on 10/10/2007, -2/+85I'm going to enter my PIN number into this ATM machine in order to withdraw $20 dollars.
- jotate, on 10/10/2007, -0/+41I'm going to start using the phrase "WTF *****?" more often...
- artemster, on 10/10/2007, -1/+13Thanks. Now I have the word ***** resonating in my head.
- B1663r, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1WTF means Wow Thats Fantastic.
- artemster, on 10/10/2007, -1/+13Thanks. Now I have the word ***** resonating in my head.
- vh1`, on 10/10/2007, -0/+26and then I went to bed at like 6am in the morning
- fxspec06, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1and woke up late because my alarm clock went off 1/2 half hour late
- fadingsignal, on 10/10/2007, -4/+5This deserves a full and proper "LAWL". "ATM Machine" is one that always cracked me up.
- dtd00d, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5We found the Department of Redundancy Department
- jotate, on 10/10/2007, -0/+41I'm going to start using the phrase "WTF *****?" more often...
- jotate, on 10/10/2007, -9/+5It's 170 dollars dollars in one day. The two dimensional measurement of revenue made in one day from Halo 3 sales is 170 dollars^2, clearly shattering the previous record.
- moskaudancer, on 10/10/2007, -7/+8It's actually "double dollars". Ever seen Trigun?
- SuperCUBE, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1That's only if it's written $$
- supermanred, on 10/10/2007, -16/+1Another grammar Nazi. By the way, your use of "dollars" in quotation marks is also incorrect grammar. While we are at it, your last two sentences should be one sentence with a comma separating them.
Stop criticizing every little grammatical error you find, especially when your grammar advice is full of faulty grammar.
In real life, anyone who walks around correct people's spoken grammar is usually seen as an *****, no different on Digg.- Calcularius, on 10/10/2007, -0/+14You just called yourself an *****.
- neiltc13, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6Says the guy who lists "dollars" in "quotation marks" and then tells me there are quotation marks. Make up your mind!
- ericrous, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3I will gladly pay $20 to everyone on this tread who will take their own life, sparing the rest of humanity from you pedantry.
And yes, using "their" for the singular is now recognized as grammatically acceptable in some cases.
- ericrous, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3I will gladly pay $20 to everyone on this tread who will take their own life, sparing the rest of humanity from you pedantry.
- piper999, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1supermanred appears to be somewhat of a hypocrite.
- Calcularius, on 10/10/2007, -5/+5obviously subby is a noob-tard
- eberhardt333, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1Sahara Desert... yup.
- tankdilla, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Reminds me of this gem on the Fox News website: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,293268,00.html
- SkippyDoorknob, on 10/10/2007, -2/+85I'm going to enter my PIN number into this ATM machine in order to withdraw $20 dollars.
- FreakyD, on 10/10/2007, -10/+12That Is impressive, still have not gotten mine yet
- moskaudancer, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5I guess my dad picked mine up for me yesterday... I'm in college now, so I won't be able to play until I go home for the weekend.
- Frenzy44, on 10/10/2007, -2/+0Its not That impressive. I mean the XBox 360 was built for Halo 3, Everyone that bought the 360 knows they are getting Halo when it comes out.. and they did.
- Mathewh, on 10/10/2007, -14/+7that is really incredible. sounds like it easily covers the replacement discs for the collector's tin. and that's just first day - going to be much more than that in coming days.
- trogdor282, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Pressed discs are about 30 cents to make. It won't matter to them.
- bouche, on 10/10/2007, -7/+232One time I made $8 in Google Adsense one day. Boy did I ever get drunk as ***** that night to celebrate.
- mrASSMAN, on 10/10/2007, -9/+3You got dugg huh?
- moskaudancer, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4That's what, two really good imported beers?
- iceman35, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2HAHA, i hear ya
- akf2000, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4oh man, that had me laugh out loud for reals, sounds very Trailer Park Boys.
- bingobongony, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0Until Google alleged click fraud and shut down your account with no chance for appeal.
- bstew22, on 10/10/2007, -6/+43I've never really been an xbox person. I have a ps3 myself. But i'll say that Halo is an extremely fun game to play. I'll have to buy it for my brother and then go over his house a lot. :)
- moskaudancer, on 10/10/2007, -3/+13It's nice to hear someone with a PS3 who also enjoys other consoles' games. That's too rare on these here interwebs!
How do you like Resistance? I heard really great things about it when it was released.- InitialDMP5, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1you should remember that Digg and the internet doesn't represent real people. Most people could care less if you like or dislike a system. Its like those two nerdy guys in the cafeteria arguing about SNES vs Genesis. That doesn't mean the other 150 kids in there are doing the same thing.
Also, I think lots of people should appreciate halo. The game was not developed or created with xbox in mind. It was a Mac/PC game. Microsoft bought it and had Bungie bring it to the xbox. The game represents a great developer in videogames, and not the console its on. There should be no bias to it. What taints that is the horrible people who populate the game on XBOX Live.- NSNick, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0Actually, the people I've been playing with on Live have been pretty cool all around. I was shocked.
- GrayvDigger, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Could NOT care less! :P
- bstew22, on 10/10/2007, -3/+4Resistance is pretty good. it's not the best game ever though. Warhawk has been really fun since it's realease though. The cool part (at least i thought) about warhawk is that you can just download the game for $20 cheaper. It took about 20 minutes and i was ready to go! If you want the manual, you can download it for free... fun times! :)
- estvir, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Group hug time!
- InitialDMP5, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1you should remember that Digg and the internet doesn't represent real people. Most people could care less if you like or dislike a system. Its like those two nerdy guys in the cafeteria arguing about SNES vs Genesis. That doesn't mean the other 150 kids in there are doing the same thing.
- yesimahuman, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Sounds like you want an excuse to go to your brother's house a lot. Something you wanna tell us?
- moskaudancer, on 10/10/2007, -3/+13It's nice to hear someone with a PS3 who also enjoys other consoles' games. That's too rare on these here interwebs!
- fani, on 10/10/2007, -34/+26Got the game and played it. Its Halo allright but its not that killer game it once was. Gears of War, Crysis, Army of Two etc. have taken that spotlight. But Halo is a phenomenon.
- Scheissen, on 10/10/2007, -15/+4I agree. Halo2 and 3 lost what made Halo special. The gameplay of the sequels is too much like those fast shoot 'em up games on the computer.
- JohanLieberg, on 10/10/2007, -11/+2I agree..gears of war is much much more fun...now maybe gears of war 2 can do more sales in 1 day..doubt it though.. crazy halo fans...
- LittleDas, on 10/10/2007, -3/+36Who in their right mind thinks Army of Two has taken the spotlight from Halo 3?
- neiltc13, on 10/10/2007, -13/+3Who in their right mind thinks that Gears of War is a good game? I swear I thought someone had sprayed my TV with chocolate or something when I played that. Brownland!
- Koldkompress, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1Yeah, I like my games colorful, like Lair.
- neiltc13, on 10/10/2007, -13/+3Who in their right mind thinks that Gears of War is a good game? I swear I thought someone had sprayed my TV with chocolate or something when I played that. Brownland!
- FutureGuy, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5You don't really play games do you? definately not on Xbox live.
- archimago42, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5You clearly haven't bashed your friend's head in with the gravity hammer on live yet.
- LMN8R, on 10/10/2007, -25/+6Don't worry guys. Bungie will survive these terrible sales by charging their most dedicated fans for some average map expansion packs.
- neiltc13, on 10/10/2007, -4/+3And then they'll force you to buy them if you want to continue with the MP playlists.
Profiteering at its most callous.
- neiltc13, on 10/10/2007, -4/+3And then they'll force you to buy them if you want to continue with the MP playlists.
- PhillAholic, on 10/10/2007, -23/+36Why are people comparing A movie to a video game? Spiderman 3 didn't cost 60 bucks MINIMUM to see. Why not talk about how many copies sold?
- pWs88, on 10/10/2007, -9/+2Spiderman made its money over a 7 day period, so $10 * 7 days is like making $154million in one day for $70/ticket
- Jones82, on 10/10/2007, -0/+35Companies are more interested in money earned against money spent, not how many units sold
- BlackJackJester, on 10/10/2007, -6/+18Spiderman 3 had the entire population of the US to choose and go see it. Halo 3 only had xbox owners, which, last I checked, counted for less than 5% of the population of the US (i want to say less than 1%, but US pop ~ 300 mil, and 12 mil xbox's worldwide...probalby closer to 2%).
- Flynnz, on 10/10/2007, -2/+17also its a lot easier to push a $9 product that appeals to the masses compared to a $60 product that only appeals to gamers. (or just a $9 vs $60 product in general)
Anyway you try and down play it, this is a HUGE deal.
To me this is great news. With the Wii, and games like Halo getting more and more press to the masses, the more people will get into the hobby of gaming. And that is great for us all. - bingobongony, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4Because businesses are all about PROFITS. And profits have to do with MONEY.
Again...the fact that it cost $60 to buy Halo makes is less likely that people will purchase one. If it cost $8-10 like a movie ticket, then it would have sold much more. - Lasereth, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Hmm...because Spiderman 3 doesn't require a $400 gaming console to watch?
- genza, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Or relative development costs...
- staticneuron, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3No ones downplaying the sales they are just saying they should not be compared to movie's. To people trying to play up the sales lets put this in perspective. halo sold 5 million and halo 2 sold 9. let us say that some liked it and wanted more and some didn't. give out 7 million people willing to get halo 3. If 7 million people or fans were able to purchase halo 3 that would equal 420 million. Then again if you use that math you can just imagine what typ of number GTA4, MGS4 and gran Turismo 5 are going to bring in.
Long point is that the impressive thing about halo 3 are the units sold not the profits because while it is oblvious the units sold are impressive talking about the profits when you have 3 Sku's ranging from $60 to $130 is kinda shady. - Taler, on 10/10/2007, -1/+0What the hell do you have up your ass. Nobody's claiming video games are more popular than movies, but it's still a milestone just the same.
- JEWestbrookJR, on 10/10/2007, -13/+26Holy *****! $170?! That means that me and like 2 others bought it!
- B1663r, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4You lie. The three of us were in line at EB games, I know for a fact that the guy in front of me and the guy behind me in line bought it, so I guess we were the only ones.
- tlm2021, on 10/10/2007, -12/+3See, but beating out movie releases, while pretty uncommon, isn't that much to brag about. $10/ticket vs. $60/game.
- CookieTrain, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3yeah, but the fact that a single game title is able to net more than a Mega block busting movie, is no matter how you look at it, quite the achivement.
- jackflash666, on 10/10/2007, -3/+1Goldeneye 007 did this like 10 years ago.
- CookieTrain, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3yeah, but the fact that a single game title is able to net more than a Mega block busting movie, is no matter how you look at it, quite the achivement.
- Alright, on 10/10/2007, -18/+8those lemmings
- supermanred, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6Lemmings follow the leader, those who bought Halo 3 (3 not 2 or 1) did so because they enjoyed playing halo 1 and 2 so much they were sure it would be a great buy, which it is. Try playing on xbox live a bit you might like it and it wont make you a lemming.
- dtham, on 10/10/2007, -16/+3lol, Halo 3 was such a great launch but Vista was crap! I think they spent more on Vista's launch too, like 50 times more.
- Dgen_X, on 10/10/2007, -0/+11worst segway ever
- rubenz, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7segue*
- Dgen_X, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1thanks...all I can think of is that damn scooter when I hear the word anyway
- dtham, on 10/10/2007, -3/+1My point was, which one of Microsoft's marketing teams did better. If Halo's spent $10 million and it made $170 million in one day, and Vista spent $500 million on promotion and look what happened.
- B1663r, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5They sold 80 million copies of Vista? So at $100 a pop that is what??? 8 billion dollars? What was your point again?
- rubenz, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7segue*
- Dgen_X, on 10/10/2007, -0/+11worst segway ever
- a5tr0cr3ep, on 10/10/2007, -5/+57There are a group of "elite" gamers out there that confuse the hell out of me. This guys are easy to find... they are the people that are never happy with any game. or if a game is popular by "jocks" and becomes a "franchise" they instantly dislike it. but the easiest way to spot these people is the word rehash. if a sequel is similar they call it a rehash, which is fine thats their opinion but the thing that drives me crazy is if the developers decide to go in a new direction they turn around and say "why did they change the game they had a winning combination" and i just cant wrap my mind around that.....???
- neiltc13, on 10/10/2007, -13/+4There are certain games which I would ask why they changed the winning combination, with the most potent in my mind being the Unreal Tournament series. The original UT was absolutely fantastic and ranks in my top three games ever. The two sequels though are so radically different that I don't like them.
Halo on the other hand is a game where there is no innovation and there is nothing new whatsoever apart from the odd weapon (which obviously isn't used due to the game's horrific imbalance thanks to the sniper rifle and rocket launcher) and a bubble shield. This is just the same game all over again.- bluenullity, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7Why do you tie innovation to fun? Why can't a game just be fun. Do you honestly need something new every time some game is released. If you can't just play because it's fun then you're not really a gamer at all, you're just a snob.
- InitialDMP5, on 10/10/2007, -4/+2If thats the case, continue playing Halo 2, or Halo 1 for that matter. If there is nothing different, and its the same fun game, why even bother?
- InitialDMP5, on 10/10/2007, -4/+2If thats the case, continue playing Halo 2, or Halo 1 for that matter. If there is nothing different, and its the same fun game, why even bother?
- bluenullity, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7Why do you tie innovation to fun? Why can't a game just be fun. Do you honestly need something new every time some game is released. If you can't just play because it's fun then you're not really a gamer at all, you're just a snob.
- merreborn, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4You can't please all the people all the time.
Especially if those people are gamers. - Almadiel, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Because if I liked Halo 1 I would go back and play that. The best way to continue a successful franchise is to expand upon it, because no game ever has everything on the first try. Unreal Tournament 2004 made radical changes but kept everything that originally made it great.
- GameJunkie, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4If they would've kept the pistol from Halo 1 I wouldn't bitch quite as much.
- ahac, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1Yea, but it seems that the other group (which just buys the games based on the hype and not quality) is much larger.
- neiltc13, on 10/10/2007, -13/+4There are certain games which I would ask why they changed the winning combination, with the most potent in my mind being the Unreal Tournament series. The original UT was absolutely fantastic and ranks in my top three games ever. The two sequels though are so radically different that I don't like them.
- techmaster, on 10/10/2007, -10/+13I didn't even buy the game on launch day (broke at the moment)...and just to think, if I had bought it, then the sales would've been $170,000,060! That's pretty neat to know that I could've made that big of a difference.
- gameboyhippo, on 10/10/2007, -2/+11You mean $230 Read the title
- 4eloBek, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1but you have p1rated! Well done!
- Eslamicolt3, on 10/10/2007, -4/+31Lol on track to be the best selling video game ever. Yah I'll bet, since "on track" can only be measured by current sales figures. Yesterday it sold 170 Million$ worth. at that rate, its on track to dwarf most countries economies.
- fognozzle, on 10/10/2007, -6/+5It will have to sell about 4 copies per XBox360 to unseat Super Mario Bros.
- bingobongony, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2You can't count bundled games. People didn't really buy Super Mario Bros.
- neiltc13, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4You're forgetting that Halo doesn't sell in Japan and that's one of the biggest markets in the world. Look at the three main areas combined, rather than just the USA and you'll see that this game isn't nearly as popular elsewhere.
It's never going to continue "at that rate". It might sell a few million but then it will still be nowhere close to games like The Sims. - deadsQuerl, on 10/10/2007, -3/+4Was that a joke?
- fognozzle, on 10/10/2007, -6/+5It will have to sell about 4 copies per XBox360 to unseat Super Mario Bros.
- urbandistrict, on 10/10/2007, -10/+2I too shatter, you also shatter, we all on occasion shatter, and sometimes it splatters.
...remembering to wipe your arse is what truly matters. - vawksel, on 10/10/2007, -16/+11You know.. Im trying to be honest here, so don't just blindly digg me down.
I've been playing the single player campaign, and I'm not enjoying it nearly as much as I did Half Life 2. It's also not as artsy as BioShock.... although it is good enough for me to keep playing, unlike Gears of War, which I just got bored with 3/4th the way through (DUck and shoot, duck and shoot duck and shoot, snore).
The only big complaint I have with the sound is the weapons are not loud enough, and lack umpfh... I have this hooked to a 5.1 system 120 watts per channel with TWO 12" 100watt subs. ... When I shoot the standard human machine gun, it sounds muffled and quiet... then again maybe its supposed to sound that way.. I'd rather have the CounterStrike weapon sounds.
Also, some of the techno style music is kinda kinky :P, although Im not really complaining.
The multi-player is good though, no complaints there so far.- SocialPoison, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Just a thought, did you try jacking up the sound effects volume in the options, while turning down the music? I don't have Halo 3... but I'd assume they'd have this option.
- CookieTrain, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2hmm, yeah, know what you mean, the shotgun allso doesnt really have that ka-blam! youre expecting. Does any one really play halo for the single player tho? I mean, it's pretty *****= as a single player. The story is kinda boring, the voice acting sucks, the levels are pretty boring, not as much as halo-2 but still. The only really cool thing about the single player is that you can play it multiplayer..
- Koldkompress, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Have you tried turning the sound up? =D
- 3drage, on 10/10/2007, -18/+7It just goes to show that you can screw over your fanbase in Halo 2 and they'll come back in droves to support you. Great consumer practices people!
- ZephyrNinety, on 10/10/2007, -8/+63console war: noun.
1. a word used to prevent having sex.- archimago42, on 10/10/2007, -7/+3How is that a word? Looks more like a phrase to me. I think your lack of sex may come from a variety of places.
- Pingspike, on 10/10/2007, -19/+8Seems if you throw enough money at something and lash it hard enough, you can even sell a third incarnation of a game, even if its exactly the same as the first two.
Who wins the console war ? the PC does. While the publishers milk the console folks for money to develop decent games we get to play on upgradeable hardware.
Buried for an - already - dead server and the author is clearly quite stupid. - ZenMojo, on 10/10/2007, -14/+5This reminds me of Superman Returns. Huge opening weekend, huge drop the following weekend. If you want Halo 3 you had plenty of time to save/scrimp/pre-order so it's a 99/1 chance that you already bought it.
- archimago42, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2Actually, I want it but don't even have the system. You know sometimes life makes you buy other things besides video games. We can't all be 14 doing chores around the house to save up for our one thing we want with no bills. I'll probably buy it when I can.
- Pikachelsea, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1lol, chores. Go do your homework kiddo.
- archimago42, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2Actually, I want it but don't even have the system. You know sometimes life makes you buy other things besides video games. We can't all be 14 doing chores around the house to save up for our one thing we want with no bills. I'll probably buy it when I can.
- TheDHC, on 10/10/2007, -17/+8only $170 dollars
way to go you ***** retard - redxninja, on 10/10/2007, -17/+3Halo 4 confirmed!!!
- bblande, on 10/10/2007, -14/+5Halo 3 sucks because SDF told me so. ;)
- eyefone, on 10/10/2007, -23/+8Halo 3? More like Gaylo 3, you know what i'm sayin?
- JEWestbrookJR, on 10/10/2007, -2/+29When comparing the game price to ticket price you are also failing to realize this... a game will typically only sell one unit per household and all occupants of the household use the one copy. While if your whole family wants to see spiderman3, there has to be a ticket for every one. So a family of 5 plays halo for $60 and a family of 5 goes to the movies for $60-ish. I think it is completely logical to compare a video game release to a movie release.
- neiltc13, on 10/10/2007, -7/+4You're forgetting that this game's target demographic is definitely NOT a family of 5.
- RRoehrig35, on 10/10/2007, -3/+1Except you fail to realize that the average US family is around 3.14 persons. Kinda throws your numbers off there.
- Koldkompress, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4@neitc13 & RRoehrig35
This might be a foreign concept guys, but what about also going with friends? I often go to the movies with groups of 4-5+ people, as a starter to a social event. - morsosky, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3yah, me and my mom are hang out and play halo tonight. she thinks im getting into the bible and *****
- Lasereth, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Yeah except Spiderman 3 doesn't require a $400 gaming console to watch.
- digsuxx, on 10/10/2007, -27/+3i just beat it. master chief dies at the end.
- toppgun, on 10/10/2007, -3/+3no he doesnt.
earth gets glassed - NoOneButMe, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Happy i beat it before reading your comment. ***** for ruining it for others though.
- Cyberen, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4NOOOOOOOOOO! YOU BITCH! YOU BITCH!
- NSNick, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1So you didn't beat it on Legendary, then.
- KevinRWright, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1God damn-it.
- toppgun, on 10/10/2007, -3/+3no he doesnt.
- skyfire1, on 10/10/2007, -9/+4I just got this game from gamefly today. It only took them 2 days to ship it. I must say the game is pretty good.
- wherl78, on 10/10/2007, -13/+8$170 dollars!!!!! Thats like 3 whole copies!!!!!!! WoW
- Meatball01, on 10/10/2007, -20/+15This game will be nowhere near the best-selling game of all time. The games in 14th place(Super Mario 64, GTA3, GT3) have sold 11 million.
top selling 20 games
1)Super Mario Bros. (NES - 40.23 million)
2)Tetris (Game Boy - 33 million)
3)Pokémon Red, Blue and Green (Game Boy - 20.08 million approximately)
4)Super Mario Bros. 3 (NES - 18 million)
5)Super Mario World (SNES - 17 million)
6)The Sims (16 million)
7)Nintendogs (DS - 14.79 million)
8)Pokémon Gold and Silver (Game Boy - 14.51 million)
9)Super Mario Land (Game Boy - 14 million)
10)Grand Theft Auto: Vice City (PS2 - 13 million)
10)Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire (GBA - 13 million)
10)The Sims 2 (13 million)
13)Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas (PS2 - 12 million)
14)Super Mario 64 (N64 - 11 million)
14)Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec (PS2 - 11 million)
14)Grand Theft Auto III (PS2 - 11 million)
17)Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen (GBA - 10.66 million)
18)New Super Mario Bros. (DS - 10.52 million)
19)Gran Turismo (PS1 - 10.5 million)
20)Pokémon Diamond and Pearl (DS - 10 million)
20)Super Mario Bros. 2 (NES - 10 million)- elanders, on 10/10/2007, -6/+5You need to remove games that were bundled as they were not directly sold as I am sure Microsoft is doing. Although it still may be a stretch. This is your list from wikipedia:
The 20 best selling console games, not originally bundled.
1. Pokémon Red, Blue and Green (Game Boy - 20.08 million approximately, 10.23 million in Japan,[31] 9.85 million in US)[37]
2. Super Mario Bros. 3 (NES - 18 million)[28]
3. Nintendogs (DS - 14.79 million)[54]
4. Pokémon Gold and Silver (Game Boy - 14.51 million approximately, 7.6 million in US,[37] 6.91 million in Japan)[31]
5. Super Mario Land (Game Boy - 14 million)[28]
6. Grand Theft Auto: Vice City (PS2 - 13 million)[84]
Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire (GBA - 13 million)[60]
8. Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas (PS2 - 12 million)[85]
9. Super Mario 64 (N64 - 11 million)[31]
Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec (PS2 - 11 million)[73]
Grand Theft Auto III (PS2 - 11 million)[84]
12. Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen (GBA - 10.66 million)[50]
13. New Super Mario Bros. (DS - 10.52 million)[54]
14. Gran Turismo (PS1 - 10.5 million)[73]
15. Pokémon Diamond and Pearl (DS - 10 million)[63]
Super Mario Bros. 2 (NES - 10 million)[28]
17. Final Fantasy VII (PS1 - 9.8 million, includes Final Fantasy VII International)[74]
18. Halo 2 (Xbox - 9.2 million)[9]
19. Gran Turismo 4 (PS2 - 8.79 million)[86]
20. Brain Age: Train Your Brain in Minutes a Day! (DS - 8.61 million)[54]- Naven, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0That was odd thing to say. Of course a game that is Circa 1980 something is going to have more sells. My grandfather played that game.
- neiltc13, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4If you notice, the games at the top of the list are those which are popular in all three of the main gaming territories - Japan, Europe and North America. It takes a LOT for a game to get in this list and without Japan's sales (let's face it, about three people actually want this game in Japan) it's very difficult to conquer.
- CookieTrain, on 10/10/2007, -4/+2Halo 3 seemed to make quite a stir even at TGS, I might be that Halo3 will actually help drive 360 sales in japan. I'm betting Halo 3 will sell way more than Halo2 did.
- Jaymoon, on 10/10/2007, -2/+5Except that those are overall sales... The story submitted is talking about Day 1. That's quite a difference. People were still buying Gears of War for the first time up until Halo 3 came out... and that game has been out for almost a year now.
Add Halo 3 into your list in 5 years.- GameJunkie, on 10/10/2007, -4/+4It's already on my list of knuckle dragging apes that consider themselves gamers. Halo is an alright game, but it has nothing different than any other FPS -- you shoot and jump, They should add in something to make it stand out .... and if there's a Halo 4 I consider this world doomed.
- Koldkompress, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2Exactly! that's what I hate about FPS's! Shooting and jumping! I think there should be a new version of Counter-strike or Swat 5, where isntead of shooting, you negotiate with them! How super fun!
Why does every game *Have* to add something new?
You know what Halo 3 has done? It's refined the Halo series, and the FPS series. Gears of War and Halo 3 are different types of shooting games. Halo 3 is a fantastic shooter that is incredibly fun, playing co-operative. It might not add a gimmick but that doesn't mean it isn't good. Yes Halo 3 is like Halo 2 and 1. that's because it's a series. I don't expect Master Chief to be suddenly in a Hello Kitty outfit who has to manage destroying the Covenant and the Flood while also handing out cookies to soldiers in a brand new gameplay aspect.
- Koldkompress, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2Exactly! that's what I hate about FPS's! Shooting and jumping! I think there should be a new version of Counter-strike or Swat 5, where isntead of shooting, you negotiate with them! How super fun!
- GameJunkie, on 10/10/2007, -4/+4It's already on my list of knuckle dragging apes that consider themselves gamers. Halo is an alright game, but it has nothing different than any other FPS -- you shoot and jump, They should add in something to make it stand out .... and if there's a Halo 4 I consider this world doomed.
- elanders, on 10/10/2007, -6/+5You need to remove games that were bundled as they were not directly sold as I am sure Microsoft is doing. Although it still may be a stretch. This is your list from wikipedia:
- PommyBrit, on 10/10/2007, -20/+5what a completely gay game
- cwcentral, on 10/10/2007, -18/+2Too bad Halo 3 will be worth $0.99 and little revenue in 24 months, unlike a blockbuster like Spiderman 3 which will still cost $19.99 on DVD or $39.99 on BluRay... 5 YEARS from now (excluding director's cut, etc...).
Statistics says numbers are facts, not the truth. It's all about context folks.- VocalFX, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Great, another pompous Blu-Ray idiot making yet another completely irrelevant comment.
- Koldkompress, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1*****. It's been 5 years since LoTR: Two Towers came out. How expensive is it now?
- forgetmenots, on 10/10/2007, -16/+5They've got these fans WHIPPED.
I'd like to work for their marketing team, laughing all the while knowing that crazed fans will pay twice or triple the cost of this stuff.- bromanct, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2I'm sure not a fan of anything. Look at you, so special!!!!!!! :) :) :)
- croxlol, on 10/10/2007, -11/+5Halo 3 is THE GREATEST GAME EVER!
- philhatesyou, on 10/10/2007, -3/+3Where did you get your lobotomy?
- skull24, on 10/10/2007, -9/+3DAMN YOU Bill Gates! LOL
- asdfuiop, on 10/10/2007, -2/+0That might the most bury-worthy comment of all time
- IronicSilver, on 10/10/2007, -7/+1Gears of War was horribly boring on the multiplayer side, you spawned in the exact same spot every-time, went to the same area for a gun...it got extremely repetitive, I don't see why they didn't put more spawn points, hopefully they fix that in the next game.
- FoxMcCloud1, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1According to my calculator that means they sold 2,833,333 copies of the game yesterday.
Did it also include pre-orders? That seems like a lot of games and i wonder how high it will go up till Santa Claus Day. - InitialDMP5, on 10/10/2007, -6/+6Also, it wasn't just the 60 dollars, there was the Legendary package that people bought too. So Thats like people buying two copies of the game almost. My room mate bought that package. I was watching him play the game yesterday and I don't get what the big deal is. Its nothing that tons of games haven't been doing for awhile.
The online experience was better, but once people find the exploits and figure out little tricks, it won't be fun to play.- archimago42, on 10/10/2007, -4/+4Clearly you don't play Halo. I've been playing Halo since the first and no "exploit" has ever ruined it. I ***** pwn use whatever noob garbage combo you want I'll still rape you. It is just a sweet game.
- johnnliu, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1XBL is relatively light on the exploits side - there have been cases, but generally the users are banned from XBL entirely. So most users are careful with what they do on XBL. Of course, immaturity is rampant and the mute button is gold.
On the single player, I thought taking down a scarab on the back of a mongoose was quite special. Can't think of another game 'boss' in a recent FPS that was that fun. You should definitely try the 4x co-op on legendary too.
- Dracusis, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1Harry Potter did the same, around $170-180 million, on launch in the US with a *much* lower unit price. It was also launched in over 90 countries worldwide and I'd wager HP did better in non-US markets than Halo did.
There's no denying that the launch results are impressive, 170 million is nothing to scoff at by any means, but the claims of it being "bigger than HP and Spiderman" are bogus. PC & Video games have one sale point and an inflated unit price. Movie sales form the box-office only account for a small percentage of the overall revenue generated through DVD, Video & TV showing rights. - secretrk1313, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3my halo 3 got the ring of death the first day :(
- bromanct, on 10/10/2007, -6/+3too bad the multiplayer isn't as great as they claimed
- wolfpack32k, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2The multiplayer is kickass....what game are you playing?
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