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Sony is a bunch of idiots

joystiq.com — [Nintendo and their DS] are appealing to the same audience that Game Boy has always appealed to. And if you look at the adoption rate of the DS over the first 17 months, not only does it trail the PSP but it also trails their other platforms ... - Sony VP Jack Tretton -Wow does this guy not know how to count or read ?

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  • jessekeys, on 10/12/2007, -52/+24dugg just for the title :>
    • ReCkLeSsX, on 10/12/2007, -88/+16Digg is getting so lame with all this anti-Sony crap.

      The guy is talking about North America. It's clear that the PSP is outselling the DS in NORTH AMERICA.
    • eplawless, on 10/12/2007, -68/+9"Sony [are] a bunch of idiots."
      Bunch of idiots.
    • bbatsell, on 10/12/2007, -11/+77@eplawless:

      "of idiots" is a prepositional phrase. It cannot be used to determine whether a verb should be plural. The object of the verb is "bunch", which is singular, leading to the singular verb "is".

      Now can we please retire the grammar nazi-ism on digg? It's very annoying.
    • ReCkLeSsX, on 10/12/2007, -66/+26I think we need to retire the anti-Sonyism on digg, as well.


      It's just so pathetic.
    • bash, on 10/12/2007, -9/+43@ReCkLeSsX: No.

      It's fun to see a giant like Sony writhe and suffer saddling all the arrogance and broken promises they have built up.
    • wmpp, on 10/12/2007, -20/+6""of idiots" is a prepositional phrase. It cannot be used to determine whether a verb should be plural. The object of the verb is "bunch", which is singular, leading to the singular verb "is"."

      Try as you might, "Sony" is not singlular. For the record, a more preferable headline would have been "Sony is Composed of a Bunch of Idiots". You would never say "Nintendo is a bunch of Geniuses" even through it's true.

      Personally, I find grammatical corrections on Digg to be too far and in-between. Flame if you want to, but I am of the opinion that we've slipped too far. I actually got a letter from la professional association the other day using "U R in place of 'you are'." What the hell!?
    • AmishRefugee, on 10/12/2007, -11/+3@bash

      this is true but it's really not the purpose of digg. i'm all for making fun of sony's many failures recently but i think digg should remain more of an informative site than a flaming site

      especially when this particular article isn't necessarily true.
    • acurism, on 10/12/2007, -18/+11@bash

      You are what is wrong with the people who make comments at digg.

      Nothing intelligent at all to offer and clearly biased... Not to mention the fact that this makes it to the front page of the gaming page at digg pretty much sums it up...The gaming section of digg is clearly overrun with immature, obnoxious xbox 360/wii fanboys.

      Can't people get a life or do they have to keep painting a picture here at digg that Sony sucks when in reality almost everywhere else Sony is doing just fine.

      If Sony sucks so bad why do they continue to be at or near the top in almost all categories of electronics/technology...better yet, I am almost positive most people have something sony(camera, tv, computer, ps1, ps2, psp, walkman) etc...and you probably do too.

      Bash,
      If you are so pathetic that you have to come to digg and "bash" on Sony on a Saturday because it is "fun" then you sir, need to get a life.

    • Jacob, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13@wmpp

      In U.S. English sony is a corporation and is considered singular. You may say but in England, but I say bullshiit sure this is the internet but this is an article posted on a site created in california whose primary readership is American. Now enough with the grammar crap it's getting pretty old.
    • ig33k010011, on 10/12/2007, -19/+11I agree on the anti-Sony-isms. Enough already, we know the whole world hates them. Now shut up and let them school you with and awesome console. :)
    • Renton, on 10/12/2007, -10/+22@recklessx

      Stop being a bitch. Yes digg hates sony, but guess what? So does everybody else. You don't have to bitch on EVERY article you see just because you're one of the last sony fanboys.

      BTW, PSP is nowhere near DS in terms of sales in north America.
    • ThinkBox, on 10/12/2007, -5/+19This article isn't about "anti-sonyisms"

      This is news. Sony just happens to be THAT bad, it is their own doing, their own unraveling. They betray their customers, talk ***** about successful and innovative comp editors (literally talk *****, not just speak on their own productivity, they are straight out lying to their customers, stockholders and themselves.)

      So those of you who hate all this so called "anti-Sony" news, complain to Sony about generating it, not for diggers digging and the rest of us agreeing
    • sovereign3, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7@bbatsell

      That guy might have been a Brit. I hear that singular nouns that are representative of a group, take on plural verbs.

      US English: The government is gong to pass a new law today.
      UK English: The government are gong to pass a new law today.

      But enough of the grammar lessons.
    • dacheetah, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4@wmpp:
      Sony is considered a plural every but North America, however, due to the fact that there isn't a singular form of Sony, it would still be turned into a singular by the rest of the sentance.
      "These" is by definition plural, but you wouldn't say "These are a bunch of sticks", you would say "This is a bunch of sticks", or "These sticks are in a bunch".

      Also the fact that this sentance was written in US English, makes it totally correct. (It's not one of those things that while utterly wrong, even in US English, is still used by ALOT of americans, such as "Could care less" instead of "Couldn't care less" or "Soddering" instead of "Soldering".

      @sovereign3:
      I presume that you meant "going", not "gong", but otherwise that appears correct to me.
    • africansk8er, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10@ReCkLeSsX
      "The guy is talking about North America. It's clear that the PSP is outselling the DS in NORTH AMERICA."

      What kind of imaginary world are you living in? The psp outselling DS in the USA? bulls***.
    • ReCkLeSsX, on 10/12/2007, -8/+4Looking at the 18 months after launch of each system, the PSP sold 5.30 million units in America. Furthermore, while the DS has been an unbelievable success in Japan, in North America since the PSP launched it's outsold the DS, which sold roughly 5 million units to 4.1 million units.


      Plus, not everyone hates the PS3. Most of the people are coming out of TGS satisfied with Sony feel that they delivered with their games and info from private meetings.
    • iceblue, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2@dacheetah

      Sony is a corporation. Corporations are considered single entities lead by a board of directors. It doesn't represent anyone but itself. It doens't represent a group. Sony is Sony. Sony is made up of Sony, not people. That's how corporations work. So no, Sony is singular.
    • RandomGuySteve, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Dont forget that sony is going by shipped, not sales, so technically his numbers could have the PSP above the DS at the time he said that.

      Not that there's a chance in hell that it would be for long, what with NSMB and the like.. but its amazing the PSP did so well over here considering.
    • bash, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4@acurism: I can see how you think I'm that immature and I have no ill-feeling towards you for thinking that. But understand this: I don't respect people that lie and try to talk their way out of it when caught red-handed. I don't respect people that are arrogant. I don't respect people to act all ballsy when they have nothing behind that facade they've put up. Sony has shown to have done that and more.

      Sony has had better days. Right now, they just seem like they want to take over the world. They should, in the words of a writer for Wired, "just make cool products".

      To answer your question, yes I do own a Sony digital camera. It died, 1 year after I got it. Now I own a Canon. Had it for 2. Hasn't broke down.

      I am not naive enough to believe Sony will go bankrupt. It won't. I am not naive enough to believe the PS3 won't have a lot of sales. It will.

      But that doesn't mean I have to like them.

      @AmishRefugee: I understand the informative angle you want Digg to have, but I go to the BBC website for that. Personally I think Slashdot handles the "informative information" angle well, and although I respect you for wanting that perspective, I don't think Digg should become that. It should just be a place for 'cool' news that you want to read.
    • raindog469, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2It's entirely possible that after 17 months, the PSP had shipped more units to North America than the DS had sold. Sony doesn't release actual sales figures, so we'll never have an apples-to-apples comparison.

      But that was after 17 months. Now it's 22 months, and what this guy is saying comes off as "Oh yeah? Well, six months ago we were still ahead!"
    • dacheetah, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@iceblue.
      Despite the typo, I think it's obvious that I said that in North America companies are considered singulars, but pretty much everywhere else, the company is formed by it's employees and shareholders, and are NOT considered singular, but plural.
      If you would like a more meaningful debate, learn to read.
  • rwood757, on 10/12/2007, -20/+5ahha thanks
  • cal01, on 10/12/2007, -31/+14Why do people keep posting and digging Joystiq fanboy articles? Stop polluting the front page. If you want to hate, go somewhere else; some of us don't want to read anti-Sony pieces all day.
  • NinjAlt, on 10/12/2007, -18/+45Sony? Idiots? WHO WOULD HAVE GUESSED!?
  • ToytownMafia, on 10/12/2007, -20/+5Shouldn't it be "Sony are a bunch of idiots"?
    • Nyana, on 10/12/2007, -16/+3I was just about to say..
    • CrazyForSW, on 10/12/2007, -14/+3I thought is was right, but i guess are is correct.
    • meshgiath, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14Sony as a company is singular. It works either way
    • carpespasm, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6a less arguable title would have been "Sony is full of idiots", i think everyone can agree on that title for both grammar and meaning.
    • JohntB, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3Only if you're British.
  • Brian48216, on 10/12/2007, -14/+7If someone found a way to put Lumines on DS, then I will 100% agree that DS dominates all.

    I just....really like that game. It's so ***** addictive.
  • FishyJoe, on 10/12/2007, -4/+17I want to see this guy eat crow when he takes a look at the PS3 adoption rate a year from now.
  • opticwind, on 10/12/2007, -13/+8"Shouldn't it be "Sony are a bunch of idiots"?"

    Sony is a company, aka singular. Now, if they said "Sony employees", you'd have something. "Idiots" describes the bunch, not the verb which is conjugated based on the subject...Sony.
    • sockpuppets, on 10/12/2007, -11/+3If they're a bunch of idiots then they're no longer singular. You can't have it both ways.
    • enderu, on 10/12/2007, -11/+4Either way, he referred to Sony as a single entity with "is" and as a plural entity with "idiots." You can't have it both ways.

      Edit: Okay...that's really creepy, wrote the same exact thing as you did...
    • Nin10dude, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Using "is" is fine because it's referring to one bunch. The plural "idiots" is also okay because the bunch is composed of several idiots.

      For example, you wouldn't say "I have a lot bunch of grapes," you would say "I have a bunch of grapes."
    • Quiss, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Everyone who said it should read "Sony ARE..." is correct. It has nothing to do with US or British English and everything to do with communication. The sentence has caused confusion -- the most obvious sign that it's incorrect.

      Sony is a company comprised of many individuals. If you are describing the company, use the singular. If you are describing the individuals that comprise the company, use the plural. For example:

      "Sony is great."

      "Sony are a bunch of idiots."
  • psbpv3o, on 10/12/2007, -12/+8Sony may very well be the stupidest company ever. But posting the same article over and over again wont convince me not to buy the ps3 or any other of sony's products. Sony releasing a bad product, like the ps3 very well may be, will make me not buy a sony product. All of these joystiq articles about how much sony sucks really aren't neccessary. If sony really is ***** do we really have to keep smelling it over and over again. Plus for all you know the ps3 could be the best console ever. If it is, I will buy it. If it isn't I, along with everyone else, wont. Please stop the crap.
  • trunkster, on 10/12/2007, -4/+16Sony is trying the good old, get the media to say something so it comes true. Not going to work this time Sony.
  • LordofChaosIori, on 10/12/2007, -10/+5More of these comments are about the grammar used in the title than the actual article... you're getting distracted here! The point is Sony sucks.
  • 256byteram, on 10/12/2007, -11/+4Lingwo the Robot says "Sony ARE a bunch of idiots"
  • tuxidomasx, on 10/12/2007, -12/+3I like pizza pie, I like macaroni, but what I love is My First Sony!

    *hides*
  • johnhummel, on 10/12/2007, -6/+36I think what's annoying to me is his comments are indicative of the "big lie" idea.

    Let's take a look at what Nintendo has done with the DS:

    1. Sold millions to "hard gamer types" such as myself who are hot for games like "Advance Wars: Dual Strike", "Trauma Center: Under the Knife", and of course, one of my favorites, "Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney" and others (like my other major favorite, "Osu! Tatakae! Ouendan!", a game so imported that Nintendo's making an English version.)

    2. Gather in non-gamer types, like my wife, who not only joined Digg today after I relayed some articles to her, but has been playing "Brain Age" and "Big Brain Academy", "Tetris", and others.

    3. My children like playing the DS more than the Game Boy Advance now! "Super Mario Brothers".

    So, if we just go off of 1 and 3, Nintendo was already a success. But with #2 - people like my wife - Nintendo has greatly *expanded* their gamer market.

    Now, let's go off topic for a second, and look at the Xbox 360. I've actually been tempted to buy a 360. Why? Because games that Sony would never have ported from Japan, like "Eternal Sonata", an RPG featuring Chopin, is coming to the US, along with some others. Sony has made a practice out of taking games that *should* be brought to the US (take the "Breath of Fire III" on the PSP available in Europe but not the US because PSX remakes need 20% new content or some garbage).

    Nintendo, under Iwata, has been more eager to break outside their market. They're going after Take-2 to try to get a Grand Theft Auto style game (which brings new meaning to "hit with a baseball bat" - tell me that image didn't bring a grin to your face). They're bringing in more M rated games - as well as trying to capture that #2 crowd. My wife is already interested in playing "Wii Sports" as a tennis game for play and maybe light working out with the family.

    I hate to disagree with the gentleman, but his statements are pretty much of the "big lie" variety: tell a whopper so big that nobody questions you on it. Nintendo outselling the DS in droves worldwide? No - they're losing market! Really!

    Sony has had plenty of opportunity to make up the difference. Where's the PSX on PSP I was offered a year ago? Now we may get it when the PS3 launches. Maybe. Maybe later on. If we feel like it. We're being treated not as customers (those who buy products for what we can make and do with them), but consumers (those who exist merely to consume whatever a company makes). The PS3 feels like little more then a delivery service for Blue Ray, rather than a pure gaming machine.

    I'm sure that by 2009 or so, I'll be intersted in a PS3 for myself (right now, I'm getting one just to sell on eBay because I'm a royal bastard). When they're cheap enough and there's enough games for them and the bugs are ironed out then I'll look into one. But I'm getting a Wii now, and just about every gamer friend I know is getting one as well. And if Microsoft keeps making decent moves, maybe next year I'll pick up a 360 and give it a shake (granted, after they get "Shenmue 2" and "Panzer Dragoon Orta" compatibility added on to that backwards compatibility - a guy's gotta have his standards).

    Of course, this is all my opinion - I could be wrong.
    • KillaGoat, on 10/12/2007, -5/+2++Digg for you for being a royal bastard, I'm buying two!
    • modsuperstar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I'm agreeing with you on the expanded market. I have now 8 different friends who have bought a DS after I purchased one. I got one, then another friend, then his 2 brothers, then when other friends saw how awesome the DS was they picked one up as well. Now most of my friends who bought one also have girlfriends of the non-gamer variety who plays the DS more then the friend that bought it. These girlfriends are the ones who would play online flash games but now play DS instead. This definitely shows me they've managed to expand the market for handhelds, as many of these friends were also home console players(PS2) and not portable gamers.
  • gxcdesign, on 10/12/2007, -15/+5I'd say let us just have the systems come out first...


    Hell I already know that on launch day we'll have 440 million (got my Wii today) topics posted and many more on how games are a bitch where a joystick would just work great.


    Sorry NIntendo lovers, but this time you are riding on a very unprofessional level of confidence over a product you haven't even touched yet.

    I'm going to get a PS3, but not until I try it. Hell I may end up hating it, or glad I got it.

    I am not going to further criticise the Wii because of Nintendo user fanbase stubbornness
    • victoryroadrage, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6the article was about the ds and psp.
      read the article before you comment or at least read the description
    • gxcdesign, on 10/12/2007, -11/+1then what does Sony have to do with it then?
    • victoryroadrage, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8um... Sony makes the psp.
      and the interview was with Sony VP Jack Tretton.
  • hansamurai, on 10/12/2007, -8/+12Who diggs this crap? I don't plan to buy a PS3 at launch but I still don't appreciate this biased crap on the game page. Buried for innacuracy.
    • Schug, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4Pfft. I dugg this for the title. I didn't even read it. How cool am I?
  • bagofmice, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2A media company clinging to an obsolete business model? Why I never.
  • BenSerwa, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8I don't know, some Sony employee spouting off a bunch of inaccurate hating nonsense is pretty amusing to me, it wreaks of desperation. Got my digg.
  • bikeham, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2Rootkit!
  • exhale, on 10/12/2007, -11/+6This Sony hating fade sucks.
  • AeroZeppelin, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2Old news.
  • meshgiath, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4I have seen this many times lately on a FEW different websites. After Sony said about the 360's HD DVD drive "too bad it won't aid the gamer's experience" (paraphrased, but close) and now they're directly targeting Nintendo with derogatory comments,

    Marketing Rule #1:Mentioning your competition is a sign of weakness.

    Sad and true.
  • NiGHTSChao, on 10/12/2007, -10/+4enough with the anti-sony ***** on digg
    • NinjAlt, on 10/12/2007, -6/+7It will stop as soon as Sony dies and gets out of the console market.
  • SlyCooper360, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3I think the ds has lost some of its core auidence... little kids. Their parents havent bought them a DS yet. I see a lot of kids still playing gba's. Oddly they are always playing pokemon when the new ones come out the death blow of the PSP will happen.

    Also who cares about grammar? We all know that Sony tends to make bad comment... The PS3 is almost too cheap.
  • MouseCircus, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15Why are you guys labeling this inaccurate? Why are you insulting the article?

    Have you guys NOT read this? You'd have to live under a rock to believe the crap this guy is trying to spin. Seriously. I realize Digg isn't a very pro-Sony place, but get the hell off your high horse and actually read the article.

    Mr. Jack Tretton lied in an interview, and everyone is catching him on the lie. There's no bias. There's no negative spin. Don't blame Joystiq, or Digg, for that matter, because Mr. Jack Tretton doesn't know his facts.

    Dugg for the simple fact that Sony still hasn't realized that their lies hurt them more than they help. Seriously now. If he was being honest, even if he admitted that they weren't doing as well as Nintendo in the handheld market, Sony, and Mr. Jack Tretton would earn themselves a LOT of respect. It pays to be humble and honest. Just as Nintendo.
  • RMDTech, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5I hate to say this but I am happy for all the Sony bashing, at least this time around.

    I'm not saying Sony is not making a superior system, all I am saying is that when a company does something stupid and constantly they should be blatantly taken out in the streets and beaten for it.

    Let look back a few years when Nintendo went with cartridge based N64. Everyone was lambasting it and only the Nintendo Fanboys were saying anything good about it. I mean it was a format that nobody wanted to deal with anymore. It might have been more powerful but it was also "More challenging" to program for. Many companies that supported at first slowly backed away from it.

    Now look at the PS3 today. It's doing the same thing. Going for a format no one cares about. Making the most powerful system but making it hard to program for. And yes they have fewer people supporting it because of it. Now I'm sure the games will be beautiful but it doesn't mean that the games on the Dreamcast weren't also beautiful for it's time.

    Personally I think Sony is on the same slope that Nintendo was with the N64, which was the reason Sony joined the gaming race anyway since Nintendo no longer wanted the Playstation as an add-on to the SNES. If Sony doesn't watch out they will be a memory or just be relegated to making software.
  • Elric1977, on 10/12/2007, -3/+16"PSP is outselling the DS in NORTH AMERICA"
    I run a games store and the ratio of DS's to PSP's is about 12:1.

    I don't know what North America you are are living on...
    • africansk8er, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Amen.

      That dude must be on something...
    • motang, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I see more DS stuff at the local game stores than I do with the PSP. So I don't what North America this Sony rep is talking about.
    • staticneuron, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Your gamestore represents all of North america? How appropriate, here at digg we represent all of the gamers in the world!!!
  • thestorey, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6They prefer the term "Ass Hats"
  • acurism, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2Marked as inaccurate and please, pick a better title!

    The fact that this got so many diggs is absolutely stupid...This goes against the principles of digg. So I guess in the next week I can expect to see headings on the front page of Digg reading...

    Sony sucks
    Nintendo rules
    Microsoft is evil

    People, get a freaking life.

    I think digg needs to start moderating some of this crap!
  • miketuck3r, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4There must be something in the water at sony HQ, dillusional would be the word..

    The DS Lite is outselling the PSP by 2 to 1 in the US/Europe and 5 to 1 in japan its not even a contest if it carries on at this rate the ds will have a market share of 70% in two years time
  • Konklone, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6I can't believe a story with a title like this made it to the front page. I hate Sony like nearly everyone else here, but this isn't helping Digg's reputation for sensationalism any.

    Marked as inaccurate.
  • lupinglade, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2sony gets sadder by the day?
  • fani, on 10/12/2007, -9/+3I'm sick of all the pro-Wii, pro-Apple and anti-Sony bashing these days. digg is overrun with democrats ( anti-Bush to that list as well ) who only love to talk talk talk to death.
    Stupid. People like these make me hate Nintendo and like Sony. Gasp.
    Also, I always stood by Bush and will continue to support Bush. You can digg me down ( thereby doing the very thing you are opposed to - which is not condemning free speech ), but you cannot take away my opinion. FREEEEDOM. !!!!

    Lets talk in a few months after all consoles are out and we see the trends.
    • Speff, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1I dug you down, not because I follow your view of the average digg user, but because you just decided to blurt out the word 'freedom' without having to. Sure, you'll get buried, but most people read buried comments anyway.

      Here's a tip:
      Stop posting things that have been said already many times already.

      On topic:
      I agree with Konklone. Stories with names such as this one just provoke people who don't share the same views. Sure the exec lied, doesn't mean everyone there are idiots.
      Inaccurate
    • Danin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Yes boo hoo let's bring politics into console holy wars while we're at it, damn those filthy democrats and their Wiis!

      Wait oh what's that yeah BURIED.
  • rewquio, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1@wmpp

    What the heck is "I find grammatical corrections on Digg to be too far and in-between" supposed to mean? How is a correction far? And of what do you find them in-between? Maybe you were trying to say "too few and far-between"? I'm not a grammar nazi and I generally don't mind them, as long as they check their own grammar.

    Edit: Darn, it's too bad you can't move this. It should be in reply to the first comment.
  • nargalzius, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0I'm not sure if anyone else commented on this, but I distinctly remember Apple doing just fine while catering to a very small percentage of the market.

    While it may or may not be a good move, judging Sony or any other company's competence should only be done when TIME PROVES it was a good or bad move.
  • diggeredoo, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3oh joy, more video game 'news'...wait a minute...STFU already.
  • dvddesign, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1So, where's sony in deciding on how I spend my money?

    What if I foolishly already bought a DS?
    Are they going to offer me some incentive even though I also already own a PSP?

    I missed this information about Nintendo not catering to different audiences. Maybe that's because I had their other consoles as well. ... Hmm, I guess my mind's been tainted and I'll never be able to buy a Sony console again. So much for free will.
  • Zettabyte, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Who ***** cares about profits and sales, that's for the share holders. Some of the best console had lacklustre sales, AKA dreamcast. I'm into the games, that's why I bought a PSP...Don't believe me, goto gamespot and find out the DS and PSP top 10 games and campare the differences.
  • icealchemist, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Can someone please post actual NA sales figures for DS/DSLite vs. PSP, instead of coming up with ones out of your asses. kthx
  • GolfDude, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2the psp has not outsold the ds in the states.. i dare you to find an article to back that up... remember sony releases " WHAT WE SHIPPED" not what we sold... Nintendo comes straight out and tells you what was SOLD.

    the ds worldwide outsells the psp.. the ds outsells all consoles at times...

    and it was stated 500 million times at TGS by sony themslves..

    THEY MAKE COMPUTERS
  • znutar, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Umm, not sure what the big deal is. I got tired of continuously upgrading my PC and didn't want a fixed console. I checked out the DS and the PSP and for my purposes, the PSP did a lot more (browse, watch movies, MP3 player, picture album) than the DS, and the games appealed to me more. Now mind you, I'm 40 years old and didn't care about the price issue, just functionality and gaming potential. I have really enjoyed Field Commander (which I gather is a clone of Advance Wars..so what), Kingdom of Paradise, Wipeout Pure, and Syphon Filter. I have transcoded numerous videos and DVDs to my 2 GB memory stick pro for easy plane flight viewing, and show friends pictures of my kids. Bottom line, I couldn't care less who the parent company is, I just like what my PSP does for me. I also hope that everyone enjoys their DS and I'm probably getting my daughter one for Christmas so she'll stop bugging me.
  • motbob, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3These are the top ten games for each handheld, according to IGN.

    DS PSP
    New Super Mario Bros. Syphon Filter: Dark Mirror
    Mario Kart DS WipEout Pure
    Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow Tekken: Dark Resurrection
    Metroid Prime: Hunters Ridge Racer
    Tetris DS LocoRoco
    Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time Daxter
    Sonic Rush Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories
    Advance Wars: Dual Strike Hot Shots Golf: Open Tee
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    There really isn't any competition between the two lists at all. DS wins on the games front hands down.
  • CMGNEWS, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3If People Digg it than it belongs on the front page. Anyone that doesn't like it can go elsewhere because that is the beauty of Digg.
  • SomeJerk, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Digg is fair and balanced like Fox News.
  • GhostToon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I notice a lot of the grammar freaks spell "alot" wrong. Its "a lot" not "alot" That's about all I remember from high school English.
  • WhereAmI, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5In a digg where Sony is a bunch of idiots make it to the front page, I must take my leave.
    Fair and balanced? ha this should not be on the front page with a title like that.
    most people that dugg this just say the title, gurranteed
    Do you know a NORMAL person with a DS? I know like 3 people with a DS. and I have had other people asking about my PSP. I recomended it, because its fun and does other stuff that a DS can't do. A couple people bought the PSP, but not the DS.
    ***** Digg.
    This is *****
    • darthsabbath, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1What do you mean by a "normal" person with a DS? I know quite a few folks who have one, and I've turned on several others to the Nintendo Kool-Aid. On the other hand, I know of two people who have a PSP, and only one actually plays games on it... the other just uses it for a media device.
    • WhereAmI, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I do not know alot of people with a DS
      If you knew the kids that I know with a DS, you'd see what I mean
      I believe you when you say normal people have DS's, I actually saw some yesterday
      lol
  • Osmanthus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0When they said that SATs showed that the kids are getting dumber, I thought it must be a measurement error. After reading this thread I fear that it's probably true.
  • Nexus85, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1If anyone is losing audience, it's Sony, at least in europe. High pricing, late release and some kind of arrogancy around them seeming to belive they can surf on the popularity wave of PS2 forever.
  • erubi, on 10/12/2007, -4/+0You are all a bunch of dumb mother *****, everybody that wrote about defending Sony, sounds like they would suck Sony's dick if they had an ad which stated "Suck our dick, every body's doing it". There would be a ***** line out the door for sucking that dick. So you know what I say to you Sony fan boys GO ***** SUCK A DICK YOU STUPID WHORES FROM HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    • Methodius, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0The only thing I hate more than fanboyism is, unfortunately, the response it often receives. Erubi, you make the Sony fanboys look like Nobel laureates by comparison.
  • Gerapudo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Sony is failing so much. I can't wait to see the Wii totally outsale the PS3. I think the DS is a better console than the PSP. It's more user friendly; I can barely hold my PSP. It hurts my hand. They have one crappy analog nub. The screen used to be the big selling point of the PSP, but now the DS Lite delivers an even better screen, even if it is a little small. There are hardly any good original games on the PSP... And that ends my list of why the PSP sucks...Oh yeah, and dead pixels, finger prints all over the screen and face of the console, and I can't play it in the sun because of the glare. Sony thinks they are the greatest game company ever; they're not!
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