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Wii outsells PS3 in Japan 6 to 1

news.zdnet.com — Nintendo's Wii game console outsold Sony's PlayStation 3 by a ratio of more than 6 to 1 in June in Japan, a game magazine publisher said, solidifying Nintendo's leading position.

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  • Wii69, on 10/11/2007, -13/+39Nearly 7:1 last week!
    http://www.vgchartz.com/japweekly.php
    • Konrad9, on 10/11/2007, -1/+10In other news, Wii outselling 360 by 360:1.
      (Note: I waited 12 hours in line for my 360 on launch day, and still very much enjoy it)
    • birch25, on 10/11/2007, -2/+9and the ps3 is the #2 next gen console in japan! i can't imagine how many times more the wii is selling than the 360...
      • Puppetfunk, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1The 360 has also been out for almost a year and half longer.
  • Sparke, on 10/11/2007, -29/+10The Wii will continue to sell like hotcakes, but I'll be surprised if the holiday-season launches of Heavenly Sword, Ratchet and Clank, Lair, MGS, GTA IV, Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, SingStar, and the Japanese version of White Knight Story really drive the PS3 up the charts in the US and Japan.
    • mrFREEZE, on 10/11/2007, -6/+5Huh? Have you forgotten that GTA IV will be on the 360 as well? (and with more downloadable content?)
  • RoundysSince, on 10/11/2007, -17/+12Well, it's big brother Joe against Dad, Mom, little bro Steve, Cindy, Steph and grandma.
    Sony should work on cute, even-elders-can-play games.
    • Renton, on 10/11/2007, -8/+30Big brother Joe probably also has a Wii because of hard core games like Twilight Princess, Godfather, and Resident Evil 4.
    • Tahiri, on 10/11/2007, -11/+1"Sony should work on cute, even-elders-can-play games."

      Please no. Sony should stick to making games for me, same for MS. Ninty already abandoned me
    • Elranzer, on 10/11/2007, -2/+10Actually it's 12-year old Jake and goth girl sis Emma who wants a PS3. Big brother Joe uses the Wii, he knows it gets the chicks.
      • daridave, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1Ownage approved.

        Besides, Big Brother Joe is busy playing good games on Xbox 360, too.
    • emjaymj, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4I think Big Brother Joe should realize that games CAN be fun without blood and violence. The Wii still has a few of those, but it seems to me that Big Brother Joe isn't as grown up as he thinks he is, and his shortsighted view that only violence is fun probably has a lot more to do with his desire to be seen as an adult and stop being condescended to by the world. It's not going to work, Big Brother Joe, real INDIVIDUAL adults know that their adultness isn't judged by the ESRB rating of the games they play.
  • Zoxy, on 10/11/2007, -16/+6I think that when more games suited for the that audience become available then the PS3 sales will pick up (White Knight Story, FFXIII, etc).That is why the 360 is also doing so poorly because those games are suited for move of an american audiance.

    If you look at the top 20 games of VGchartz you will see that 3 are for the WII and 2 are for the PS3. Now ever since the WII was launched WII sports and WII play have been dominite. Every other WII title has spent a week or so in the top 10 and have quickly dropped down the list. I think by March when more japanese title come out, it should be a far less gap.
  • Salgat, on 10/11/2007, -14/+27I keep seeing people trying to avoid the fact that the PS3 costs 600$. Many people see PS3 and say to themselves, "why not just buy an xbox360?" This may not be justified, but thats how it is for most people.
    • Zoxy, on 10/11/2007, -6/+21I don't see how this relates to this article since the article is concerning "JAPAN". The PS3 is outselling the 360 almost 4 to 1.
  • leffunov, on 10/11/2007, -21/+38Who cares? This isn't news, everybody knows this and these two aren't exactly competing for the same customers!
    • EntangledPhysx, on 10/11/2007, -12/+2my thoughts exactly.
    • Denver80203, on 10/11/2007, -11/+4What are you talking about? I have a 360 and a Wii. I would say 360 competes against PS3 putting me in the same market group. i could buy a PS3 if I WANTED to but, why bother? It's completely in the same market.
      • SuMizzle, on 10/11/2007, -4/+1Wha? BMW and Hyundai are in the same market group, but something tells me they aren't marketed at the same consumer.
        • KingGoonie, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2Again with the car comparisions. Moronic idiots.

          We are talking of a price difference of 350... not 50,000.

          TRUST ME. Its not about the price. This is because people who CAN buy both are CHOOSING the wii.. THEY ARE COMPETING AND WII IS WINNING deal with it.

          I mean exactly how poor do you think most people are? You act like the ps3 woudl absolutely totally and completely break the bank and destroy peoples life savings. I can afford a PS3, don't want one. I know 3 people with a ps3 COLLECTING DUST.

          Its not about the price, get over it. They are competing, in fact right now because of sales the Wii is the PS3 (and 360s) BIGGEST COMPETITOR.

          Frigging learn basic business.

          They are all video game consoles, regardless of other features, thats what they are. Go to bestbuy, toys r us, etc... they are all in the videogame section.

          You think PS3 doesnt want those customers that Wii is getting? Your a sony fanboy that believes every lie they tell you. If ps3 was in lead over Wii they would say they are creaming their competition... but now that its losing they of course are going to say well there not competing with them... lol...

          Again, if you can only have one console, you are going to choose between all 3, therefore all 3 are in competition, and based on sales I think most agree ps3 offers the worst overall package.
    • joelmole, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8Well, it's pretty ironic since Sony was considered mainstream in the last generation, while Nintendo had more of a niche appeal. It seems the opposite is true this time around, but in a different way.
      • leffunov, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1True, but Sony has yet to show off the big guns. We will see next week how much of a turn-around story Sony can pre-emptively write when MGS4, FFXIII, and Killzone are shown at E3.
    • PRlME, on 10/11/2007, -2/+4"it's pretty ironic " no its not, it was ironic a few months back now its normal.
    • cajie, on 10/11/2007, -8/+4True. I have both (wii & PS3). Daughter/Wife enjoy the Wii. Me and my son go ballistic with Resitance & Motorstorm in HD. 2 different target audience.
  • Almadiel, on 10/11/2007, -17/+49Oranges outsold apples by a ratio of more than 6 to 1 in June in Japan, solidifying oranges' leading position.
  • drewdvorak, on 10/11/2007, -19/+10Wii does not equal PS3, and visa-versa. Stop comparing the two.
  • 80hd, on 10/11/2007, -13/+30Where's the "bury as Fanboy news" button?
    • wiii, on 10/11/2007, -3/+6It's not just the fanboys. Diggers love to see the small, innovative company win.
      • hockey, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2I thought Nintendo was worth more than Sony according to Digg.
      • Ashkc88, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Nintendo is not even close to being a small company. (see NES, SNES, N64, Gameboy, DS, and even card games (yes they still do that in japan) and also the gamecube (it wasn't a failure at all considering they made profit from them))
    • Tahiri, on 10/11/2007, -8/+2" Diggers love to see the small, innovative company win."

      So why do they want Nintendo to win? They are neither small nor innovative.
      • Acglaphotis, on 10/11/2007, -2/+0compared to sony that sells, well, anything and nintendo who justs sells nintendo stuff.
    • Elranzer, on 10/11/2007, -2/+5Most diggers are also too young to remember the iron fist monopoly Nintendo had in the 1980s and early 1990s.
      • hockey, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2Yes. It's the reason they became the "small" company.
  • UberC, on 10/11/2007, -6/+48Alternate headline to article: Wii out selling Xbox 360 15 to 1 in Japan.
    • KenDigg, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8I always think the same thing when I see the weekly "Wii Outsells PS3" headline.
    • PRlME, on 10/11/2007, -9/+2why is the xbox so hard to push in japan?
      i think its alot better then ps3 cause of the games. JP usually go for systems with the most games even if the games are crap.
  • ronsta, on 10/11/2007, -16/+46ok i know i'll get dugg down for this, but here it goes:

    where are the good wii games? it's been almost 9 months since launch. wouldn't this be enough time for developers to figure out this system rocks, and to get on board making amazing games for it? so far, the only quality games that have come out for wii have all been nintendo titles (wii sports, paper mario, zelda). is it possible that what has been hailed as the newest way to play video games is actually the main barrier to developers making high end games for this system?

    there are incredibly innovative uses for this controller, which have already been demonstrated in games like wii sports and wii play. there are also classic uses for this controller, which fun games like rez (anyone remember that) can be built around. and yet games like sonic the hedgehog and madden, the same crap that comes out on every system, are ported, and prevail on the wii (yes i know, they are tried and tested, so developers know they will bring in a certain amount of revenue).

    the question is if we can't have awesome games through traditional means, when will nintendo open up the virtual console and allow for indie developers to make money off their own minigames. i've had more fun playing the missile game on wii arcade, save for the HUGE friggin wii cursor obstructing my view. if only they'd come out with things like this channel instead of the EVERYBODY VOTES crap.

    /rant
    • GGIII, on 10/11/2007, -5/+13Well, you forgot RE4. It's a blast on the Wii. And Warioware is, in what will come as no suprise, amazing.

      Your argument about it all being 1st party is mostly true at the moment, though.

      As for indie VC games, google WiiWare, which was announced last week.
    • Denver80203, on 10/11/2007, -9/+10agreed. Wii is betamax with no media. i think the problem is Nintendo aimed at kids and adults love it. developers need to address the gap. give it time
    • Alphabet, on 10/11/2007, -9/+14Developers thought PS3 would win. They start making games for the PS3.
      Developers dedicate huge teams to making PS3 games, and barely any on other consoles.
      PS3 fails, and Wii wins instead. Developers now stop focusing on PS3 and now on the Wii.
      Shifting teams to an entirely new console takes time.
      Developers only started trying to make Wii games this January.
      Therefore, most games for the Wii won't come out till later.
      • grumbel, on 10/11/2007, -6/+5Did the PS3 really fail? As far as I know its selling faster then the PS2 back then. Sure, the numbers don't look exactly hot compared to the Wii, but if you ignore the Wii for a moment, did anybody really expected it to do much better then it does now? Aren't PS3 numbers in the very range where you would expect a $600 console to be?

        ### Therefore, most games for the Wii won't come out till later.

        "Till later" is also the point when the PS3 and XBox360 might already have had a price cut. The Wii currently has the lead, but PS3 and XBox360 still have the better games for quite a few month/years to come.
        • Anifanatic, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3Maybe it didn't fail, but when a company sees that the Wii is in a lot more homes than the PS3, they're going to be more interested in making games for the Wii. Also, it takes a lot less money to develop for the Wii, and those two things combined (with several other factors) make the Wii a lot more appealing than the PS3. It costs a lot more to make games for the PS3, and after you make it, you'll have a lot fewer people buying the game, because there just aren't enough systems out there.

          In short, they see: Spend more money and make less in return? Or spend less money and make more in return?

          Also, back on topic: There's a really impressive line up coming out in the next couple of months, and I'm very excited. Having said that, I also want to get a 360 to go with my Wii.
  • tntbone, on 10/11/2007, -6/+11I love my Wii and 360 however the PS3 has not any real "must have" titles to justify $600. Make no mistake there is great stuff coming down the pipe I just hope it isn't to little to late!
  • Phatern, on 10/11/2007, -10/+2Go ahead and digg me down but no one cares. Maybe it would be news if maybe something changed drastically. Not like 5:1 then 6:1 and then 7:1. Maybe if it jumped from like 5:1 to 10:1. Or unless the PS3 catches up a bit or something. Whatever, I have both consoles anyways. WOOO Ninja Gaiden Sigma TOMORROW!
  • Denver80203, on 10/11/2007, -18/+20ps3 fanboys backpedaling with "not in the same market" BS is kinda fun to watch. toyota and corvette are in the same market -cars (duh). I hardly want to compare ps3 to a vette but i guess cost makes it appropriate. You people are really grabbing at straws.
    • murakume, on 10/11/2007, -6/+5I fail to see how a Corvette and a Prius are in the same market. Enlighten me. Why the would a gas sipper want a gas guzzler and vice versa? They aren't in the same market otherwise Toyota would have an answer to the Corvette.

      Besides, if you realllyyy want to judge it like that then you could say a Ford Pinto would be marketed to the same audience as a Chevrolet Corvette if the Pinto hadn't gone poof and was still around. Seriously..
    • catharz, on 10/11/2007, -8/+11Your argument is flawed based on your analogy.

      If I wanted a sports car I wouldn't even bother looking at a Toyota.
      If I wanted a car for the misses to take the kids to school, I wouldn't bother looking at a Corvette.

      The same argument is completely valid for consoles.

      If you don't care about HD graphics, surround sound or multimedia capabilities then the Wii is perfect and you wouldn't bother looking at the 360 or the PS3.
      But if you want HD eye candy, surround sound and decent multimedia capabilities you wouldn't bother looking at the Wii.

      While they're all game consoles, they are aimed at totally different markets. The different capabilities, price and types of games available for each should make that obvious.
      • mrFREEZE, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2The whole "car" analogy doesn't work, since in the console world, the SAME games are often available for both systems. (ie: Devil May Cry4, GTA IV, etc.).
        • catharz, on 10/11/2007, -4/+4So when's the release date for DMC4 and GTA:IV for the Wii?
  • ProtossX, on 10/11/2007, -11/+4wii is $250 ps3 is $600

    you do the math

    im not surprised it's being outsold

    case closed
    • nemobushido, on 10/11/2007, -2/+8the iphone is 600 dollars, and in a matter of days has sold at a rate that other cheaper phones never do. there is more to economics than price comparisons. your logic is incomplete. case closed.
  • Bodhesatva, on 10/11/2007, -2/+18It isn't fair to criticize these posts that detail sales figures, precisely because people keep insisting that the Wii is a fad. In fact, I see some of the EXACT SAME PEOPLE who insist that the Wii is a "fad" and that it will be cooling off any day now coming in to this thread and stating that this news isn't important.

    The Wii has not slowed down at all -- in fact, as this report shows, it's actually increasing its lead over the PS3 month after month. If people would stop claiming that the Wii is a fad, then we wouldn't have to jam reality down your throat by posting stuff like this. You can't have it both ways.
    • grumbel, on 10/11/2007, -11/+3Well, the thing is the Wii *is* fad, due to the lack of games. Its true that its selling like hot cokes, but sometimes I really wonder why, there is only so much fun you can have with Wii Sports.
      • ChineseRoom, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7So is PS3 a fad because of the lack of games?
    • murakume, on 10/11/2007, -6/+5A friend of mine got a Wii at launch. He played the ***** out of it for about a month because he also got Zelda and now it has just sat there. I don't know about the rest of the world, but he is about as Nintendo as you can get, he wanted to kill me for buying a PS3, so him just dropping his Wii says something to me at least.
      • opnickc, on 10/11/2007, -2/+7I think the issue is:
        1. Everyone is pretty much done with the games they have (especially if they only bought Zelda and had Wii Sports)
        2. Review scores for Wii games vary widely, leading to mediocre averages (don't ask me why, that's a whole different issue).
        3. There are no cheap used or "Player's Choice" type games for the system.
        4. Nobody wants to spend $50 on a game with mediocre reviews, even if they might love it (I find Excite Truck to be an excellent title, but metacritic wouldn't lead you to believe that).
        5. People decide not to buy anything until titles with universal praise are released, leaving them with nothing to play on the system and a feeling that there are no games to buy if they want to, despite a fairly robust library for the age of the system.
    • Tahiri, on 10/11/2007, -9/+2Jam reality down their throat? Spoken like a true jackass

      Selling doesnt mean it's not a fad. Fads sell
  • trubbleshute, on 10/11/2007, -4/+3Not very surprising. Different customer base. We'll see who makes the most money in the longterm -- too early to tell now. Nintendo just needs to come out with some more great games.
  • Almadiel, on 10/11/2007, -4/+6Guess what, the same applies to cars. Someone who is looking to buy something like a corvette isn't going to look twice at a civic. So increased sales of civics will not have much impact on the sales of corvettes. Which is why both cars are profitable and continue to exist.
    • nemobushido, on 10/11/2007, -3/+7wrong. cars need only gas to function properly and expectantly. game consoles require a subscription of fresh and interesting games. you dont just buy a generic "gas" for the ps3 or wii to generate fun out of. it's really not a gaming "engine" in that sense.
    • Rusty747, on 10/11/2007, -6/+2Absolutely correct, not many people think of it in this perspective.
    • ChineseRoom, on 10/11/2007, -3/+11Sony Fanboy's really love their car analogies, dont they?
    • AnnaBay21, on 10/11/2007, -1/+0hey! Alucard is in da haus! :-D
  • Grivako, on 10/11/2007, -5/+13Wii sells well mainly because its cheap and easy to figure out. But unless it starts to develop some new games, their going to collect dust after their intial interest dies down, which many people have already done, myself included. Many say there is the downloadable content, but I didnt buy a new system to play the games I already own, I want something new.
  • Blackflower, on 10/11/2007, -11/+3As an old school Sega Saturn fanboy who has disliked Sony ever since PS1 demolished my system back in the mid-90s, it is with great glee that I watch Sony falling apart in the console wars.
    • nemobushido, on 10/11/2007, -6/+2As one of the many that Sony has screwed, cheers mate. Sony's history of corporate evil in the electronics/gaming world is akin to Microsoft with PCs.
    • cave, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4I could say the same thing, except switch around Saturn for Dreamcast, PS1 to PS2, and mid-90's to early 00's :(
      • dunlop, on 10/11/2007, -3/+1I went from: TurboGraphix16-->Sega Saturn-->Dreamcast-->Xbox-->360, Wii ...Up until the 360 I was a glutton for punishment ; ) EA and Sony are everything that is wrong in the gaming world and they will never recieve a cent from me...ok I'm slightly lying my wife bought me a PSP last year, it kicks a$$ for homebrew and watching movie/tv on my commute to work.
  • dunlop, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4Price really is the deciding factor and it is a family oriented machine. It's the exact reason I bought a Wii, I've had it a week and I only turn it on to play with my 3 year old son (Wii sports is fun however). I'm really hoping because of the large user base some third party companies come out with some games geared for "grownups" that takes advantage of the WiiMote. As a complementary system there is no freaking way in hell otherwise that I will play a game when the equivelant is on my 360
    • murakume, on 10/11/2007, -3/+1Metroid Prime 3 seems to be in within your needs. Isn't out yet though.
    • cesclaveria, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3try:
      Twilight Princess
      red steel
      scarface
      resident evil 4
      Madden (if you are into that, I don't like American football)
      and many more to come..
      • dunlop, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2I bought twilight princess but haven't been able to get into it yet. I was doing a mass of overtime at work so tried to play it in very small windows of time, feels brutally linear but truthfully I haven't played a zelda game in like 20 years (I think Link to the past was the last I played).
        I really just want to see games that take advantage of the remote, like I said I have a 360 so the difference between an equivilant Wii and 360 game is scary (I rented a couple).
        I have Shadowrun(forget the reviews, if you like online shooters this is THE game) to tide me over until Metroid
      • catharz, on 10/11/2007, -3/+3I bought twilight princess, red steel, super monkeyball and wii play at launch.

        I think I clocked up ~20 hours on TP, got bored and the machine has been collecting dust ever since. I've played Super Stardust HD (released last week) more than I've played my Wii. The same could be said for Resistance, MotorStorm, Oblivion and F1:CE.

        The concept of the Wii is interesting (which is why I bought it), but I'm yet to see a game that justifies the purchase. So far, Wii sports is the only title that makes good use of the controller.

        I've easily got my AU$1000 worth of entertainment out of the time I've spent playing Oblivion alone.
        • DollaDollaBill, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1absolutley true. Anyone who tells you otherwise doesn't own one. Trust me I have a dozen games for me Wii and sports is the ONLY one that would've been worth the $50.
    • Anifanatic, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1"I'm really hoping because of the large user base some third party companies come out with some games geared for "grownups" that takes advantage of the WiiMote."

      Read that again, but add a wink when you say "grownups" and a hip thrust when you say "WiiMote" and you'll know how I read your comment. :P
  • sbassin, on 10/11/2007, -5/+4Nintendo advocates are excited that the Wii still isn't available in stores and might not be until even mid-2008 according recent reports. Doesn't anybody see a problem with that? They've always had production issues going back to the original NES games. In the case of a console, isn't "time to market" a consideration? Mightn't the shortages affect the Wii's adoption as a platform in the long term?
    • zeebo, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5I don't know if you can call a situation where a system is outselling the others by more than 3 to 1 a shortage. The demand for the Wii is still absolutely insane. They could ship 30 million tomorrow and it would still be hard to find one.

      As for games, its true after the launch blitz things slowed down. However, right now there are at least two more games I want to pick up, and another pair coming this month, which seems to be about the same for every console. I don't see a Halo, or Dead or Alive, or Final Fantasy coming out every few weeks for the other systems. A quick count of games listed as being released between now and the end of august puts the Wii at 17, the Xbox360 at 18, the PS3 at 11, and the PS2 at 20.
  • rafaelwebb, on 10/11/2007, -4/+4As a friend told me once: Nintendo makes games, Microsoft makes softwares and Sony makes hardware. It is, of course, very general but the fact is that Nintendo is making games since 1889 and they know what they're doing. The other 2 companies are really good (PlayStation outsold every console in the past 10 years) but I guess they're not in the reach of a super inovative idea for playability as Nintendo.

    And no, there is not 2 consumer base: they are the same consumers. Children don't buy consoles or games. SEGA and Nintendo fought an awesome war back in some years with the same aspects as nowadays. And to conclude, the console that sell this many can't have bad games - it's just impossible, everyone is trying to hack it and developing for it everywhere. Now, can a low seller do good games? I believe so (Saturn made excelent games) but not for long, and not many games.

    Look the past people. PS3 looks a lot like Neo Geo to me.
    • DarKnight90, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2But Neo Geo got all the Metal Slug games, which makes it better then PS3.
  • HumanRecall, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2OUCH thats gotta STING in the morning SONY :{
  • olddirtycr, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=site%3Adigg.com+%22wii+outsells+ps3%22&btnG=Search

    I think we got the point 263 articles ago... I'm not sure why you people need to be informed on the Wii beating xbox/ps3/etc X to 1 every day.
  • CReyes4182, on 10/11/2007, -10/+5Good god.. whats wrong with you wiitards. They are not in the same category! Its like posting "Today Honda outsells Ferrari 100 to 1" NO FREAKIN SH^T!
    • zeebo, on 10/11/2007, -4/+7The Xbox and the Gamecube were in a different power class than the PS2. Does that mean that the PS2 didn't 'win'?
      • CReyes4182, on 10/11/2007, -4/+1PS3 and Xbox 360 are HD gaming machines. They both play movies, music, have hard drives.. they are entertainment devices. Not only that but they are both sold way under cost. The wii on the other hand looks like ***** on HDTVs. Its strictly standard definition gaming and they are sold way above cost. Not only that but its more like a toy and certainly not a full entertainment system. Its like comparing one of those $100 dollar laptops to a full blown laptop.
        • zeebo, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4You're vastly underestimating the cost of components that can tolerate being in such a small space. The Wii is being sold for a profit sure, but Nintendo isn't making a killing on them. As for looking like ***** on HDTVs, it doesn't look bad on mine. Looks better than the PS2 thats for sure.
        • NotACYBORG, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3Try using some component cables there mate. What's hilarious about PS fanboys is their story always changes to suit their needs. Most gamers during the PS2 era (and even PS1) would say that graphics don't matter, it's just good games. Now the PS3 is on top with processor power and it's all about what looks better, forget all about fun, engaging gameplay. Oh yea, and on top of that they're in a different market. You know, Sony sells systems to play video games and Nintendo sells...systems to uh, play video games.... Wait so just because some of the games cater to different genres means they are entirely different right? Right....
        • Mrstupid7, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1I like how you say toy and entertainment system in the same sentence like they're different things. I'm going to have to repeat this again. Anything that you use for enjoyment is a toy, e.g., sex toys. Especially when it's cool and unnecessary.
        • CReyes4182, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Whatever I got both I can compare them side by side. They are not in the same category.. trust me. You may think the wii is good but its not. The only good games are ports from the GC for crying out loud!
    • KingGoonie, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4lol, another 12 year old who doesn't know basic concepts of competition.

      You go to a store, you can only buy one videogame system.. you are choosing between a 360, ps3, wii. Period. End of Story. THEY ARE COMPETING HEAVILY. I love how now sony is themselves trying to say Nintendo is not their competition... Why? Because if they are then they themselves have to admit they are getting spanked. Trust me, they are totally competing with each other. All are competing for people to buy them as their videogame machine. Think hardcore gamers aren't buying wii? Are you nuts? I did... my friends did... Basic business principles man. Saying they don't compete is idiotic. Comparing it to that car comparision is assanine. PS3 is NO Ferrarri. Unless you wanna compare it to a Ferrarri that you really can't drive because all the roads aren't very good... So a Ferrarri that just sits in your garage looking pretty... yea.. yea I rather have my scion with plenty of nice roads to drive on... a cheaper car that kicks ass and is a blast to drive.

      I love how because it has additional features they are both still not basically videogame systems. All 3 of them are... So gamegear/gameboy/atary lynx weren't all handheld systems since compared to gameboy the other 2 were far superior features wise... idiots.
      • CReyes4182, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Actually NINTENDO said they aren't sony or MS's competition
  • SuMizzle, on 10/11/2007, -3/+6I'd be more concerned that a almost 3yr old console is being outsold by a 10 month old console. It shouldn't surprise anyone that the cheaper platform is dominating. No matter how much you hope and pray, Sony isn't going anywhere.
  • aurorous, on 10/11/2007, -2/+20So it's not the same category... are you sure that's the argument you want to make here?

    There is one area where it is an apples to apples comparison and that's third party support. Many loyal PS3 developers are beginning to think they've backed the wrong horse, that will mean fewer games for PS3, eventually it means top tier titles will start to migrate over to the system that everybody owns. Or to use your own car analogy which is more lucrative? making after-market parts for the few thousands Ferrari's in the world or the several million chevy's?

    The PS3 is looking more and more like a niche market product. Like the Neo-Geo or the 3DO. this isn't necessarily a bad thing the Neo-Geo was very successful as a hardcore high end system. But SNK never had any illusions that it would ever beat the snes or the genesis.

    The PS3 is Ideal for the 5 million "hardcore" gamers who are willing to pay premium to have every last pixel rendered on their 1080p HDTV's. The Wii is the game system for everybody else. And that would be a good thing except Sony bet the company that the PS3 would be as successful as it's predecessors and if it doesn't live up to that lineage Sony will declare it a failure. Last year Sony laid off 10,000 employees from all divisions but left the playstation division in tact because they were counting on the massive success of the PS3 to pull them out of trouble. 7 months and millions of dollars worth of hype and they've only got 3.5 million systems to show for it.

    2 years ago a lot of people were predicting "the PSP will end nintendo's dominance of the portable market the DS is just a gimmick" and that wasn't true. Many of those same people are now making the same argument "the PSP and the DS serve different markets" Proclaiming "the Wii is a gimmick" doesn't make it true no matter how many times you say it. EA, ubisoft, Sega, and Square are corporations that want to make money and they'll make the most games for whoever has the most systems in people homes, that's how you make money in the video game industry.

    GTA and Final Fantasy will sell some systems no doubt but they're not going to cancel the momentum Nintendo has going right now. Many of the people buying Wii's right now don't care about GTA and don't know anything about final fantasy. Hell my boss (a middle aged woman) owns a Wii. Unless either Sony or Microsoft do something very drastic sometime in the near future, 18 months from now Nintendo will be right where they were in 1990, with the top selling console and portable, and back on their perch as the undisputed king video games.
    • grumbel, on 10/11/2007, -7/+2### 2 years ago a lot of people were predicting "the PSP will end nintendo's dominance of the portable market the DS is just a gimmick" and that wasn't true.

      That wasn't true, but on the other side the PSP has sold a hell of a lot, it has already sold more then either Gamecube or XBox and it isn't even half as long in the market as they are. Its the first handheld ever to steal a very sizeable chunk out of Nintendos handheld monopoly. Sure, its still not number one, but it isn't exactly a loser either, quite the opposite. If Sony actually invested something in original games for that system instead of relying on PS2 ports, things might have turned out even better for them.

      And back to the PS3: At a price of $600 its clear that the masses won't buy it, its just to expensive, nobody would have expected it to sell like hotcakes at $600. But that price is going to come down sooner or later and things might look very different then. This generations race hasn't ended, it has just begun and if the Wii has the power to stay where it is for the next fives years we have to wait and see.

    • Anifanatic, on 10/11/2007, -5/+0How do I say this, without making you uncomfortable? . .. ... .... ..... ...... ....... ........ ......... .......... I love you.
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    • leffunov, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Nintendo doesn't have momentum, the sales of Wii act like a spring. Right now they are edging the rech of it's sales coil. Market saturation is nearing quickly as the superficial values Nintendo walked away from become increasingly burdensome. In one year the Wii will be failing, Nintendo will have their profit and move on. Hopefully then they will make a NEXT-GEN system.
  • gadgetlust, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8My mom bought a Wii today. After 20 years, Nintendo finally won her over. Now I feel like I'm living in Rand McNally, where they wear hats on their feet and hamburgers eat people.
  • MewTwo, on 10/11/2007, -7/+2Ship your console out already so people will realize it sucks sooner.
  • Dan11023, on 10/11/2007, -3/+6the tittle should be wii outsells 360 in japan 24 to 1
  • TDR25, on 10/11/2007, -5/+3I guess this is what happens when overpricing and overloading a video game console does to a company eh, Sony?
    • MikedaSnipe, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4overpricing? sony is losing money on each console, wii isn't. Overloading is correct though, I can't believe people are swallowing that slow blu-ray drive. Larger + Slower (then 360) = loooonnngggg loads. People no longer have to use multiple disks occasionally? Only $200? What a friggin bargain.
      • CReyes4182, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1What are you talking about? There are no long load times with the ps3 anymore. Since blu-rays are so big they put duplicate data on the disc so it doesn't have to spin as much and thus reduces the load time. Of course you wouldn't know that.. you dont own a ps3, do you? I love you people love to bitch about something they don't even own. I own a wii so I can bitch all I want about that piece of *****.
    • leffunov, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Overpricing? Mispricing, the console isn't too expensive for the product, it's that the console was made more highend then it should be for **NOW**. In two years, everbody should migrate to PS3 because of hardware and disc problems with the 360 and poor graphics on the Wii
  • typicalusername, on 10/11/2007, -4/+0Hah...I love it that everyone is pointing out that this is winning/losing the console battle. I haven't seen anyone point out, that Japanese consumers, at least for the moment, don't even care about the graphical capabilities of the PS3 enough to utilize them. This is the reason why Wii is outselling. Japan game companies still have current and even pre-production games for the PS2. They can generate a graphically inferior RPG, and churn them out by the dozens or hundred, and the Japanese consumer still buys them. So, why even bother. It's just the culture. It speaks nothing on the platform itself. Graphical content is not the driving force currently. Now, when some of the good production companies in Japan and the US will release a game that brings out all those graphics processors...Oops, you'll see a spike in PS3 sales suddenly. Coincidentally, I have had all my friends buy a Wii system, and when I asked them the last time they played it... most said Feburary or earlier. Let the dust collecting begin.
    • KingGoonie, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3typical.. funny since all of my friends still play it everyday... and ooooooooooooooh pretty graphics gonna cause a spike? Lol.. really? How come the super duper superior specs and blue ray didnt cause the sales to initially go through roof? Everyone knew how the graphics would be, and the blueray BEFORE IT CAME OUT. Chose not to buy it. A game that shows off the best graphics in the history of mankind... unless it is an awesome game that scores all 10s it won't drive sales. Again, the system supposed to have superior graphics, so when games actually show this... no ones going to care. Its about gameplay my friend.. gameplay. And the wii kicks butt in that, but singular and multiplayer.
  • cockmaster, on 10/11/2007, -9/+4yeah the wii is selling - because its a fad and people are cheap. so many of these people buying "wiis" are never gonna play em again, and never buy any more games for em. give me a ***** break with the "oh lol my mom bought a wii ***** sony lmao" comments. your MOM is not playing that stupid ass system every night and you know it. are you people still playing will sports like a bunch of brain dead downs syndrome kids? i guess so.
    • Prodigy921, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3you're just mad because the most exciting thing thats come out for the PS3 is firmware updates...

      As for people not buying the games...I guess thats why Nintendo games keep topping the charts.

      Think before you post...
      • KingGoonie, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2If it was a fad it would have been over by now, but its still going strong, and game sales as well as console sales are kicking butt... meaning people who HAVE the system are now buying ADDITIONAL games to CONTINUE playign the system. And honestly all I know are life-time gamers buying the system... some that have a 360, a ps3, and have had ps2, dreamcast, gamecube, etc... and they ALL play the wii more then any of them, then 360.. THAN ps3. Face it, the system just isnt all that.
  • razorsharp, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3Maybe if the Japanese stopped buying so many Wii's we'd get a reasonable amount shipped over here to the States. . .
  • MikedaSnipe, on 10/11/2007, -3/+1Nintendo posted this on their Wii news channel (gloaters).

    But seriously, holy irrelavance batman! We might get more japanese games down here, but overall figures are more relevant.
    nexgenwars.com can keep ya posted.
  • evozero, on 10/11/2007, -4/+7the wii is fun for what it is - an accessible and entertaining multiplayer gaming console. however, when you want to sit down and simply play something more engaging it just doesn't do it. when something like gran turismo, gears of war or metal gear solid makes it to the wii, let me know.
    • MikedaSnipe, on 10/11/2007, -7/+2Bitch, how is Wii sports less engaging then any of those? Learn some vocabulary, Deep or Complex would work, but not engaging. Pick up wnd play Arcade games are generally the most engaging because they want moar quarter! See the kid that robbed a bank, but only took quarters. SF2 is another engaging game.
      • CReyes4182, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Wii sports is less engaging in every possible way. Its like a freakin demo sampler. Thats not even a full game.
    • Prodigy921, on 10/11/2007, -7/+1agreed w/ Mike...what do you mean "engaging"!? Shooting someone in yet another WWII game or driving car, is somehow more "engaging" than bowling, fighting monsters or playing with friends? Geez...think out statments BEFORE you post them!
    • Tahiri, on 10/11/2007, -5/+3"what do you mean "engaging"!?"

      More than a minigame/tech demo
      • KingGoonie, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Gee... thats funny... cause last minigame game I bought was back in January... and yet I purchased many great games since... and still playing the wii everyday. Also doesn't explain those people who have more then one system and yet play the wii more then the others... hmm... someone bitter he can't find a wii so sticks with the subpar systems?
        • CReyes4182, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1You play your wii everyday because you don't have a ps3 or a 360. I have a PSwii combo myself, and man do I wish I had gotten a 360 instead of a wii. What a waste. Its good by itself but when you sit it next to a REAL next gen console you see how mediocre it really is.
    • Mrstupid7, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1Paper Mario was pretty engaging. That game had pretty colors though so you wouldn't like it. Maybe Resident Evil 4 or the Godfather, those games are pretty damn engaging.
  • dodgyd55, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4reminds me when ps1 out sold the sega Saturn 5:1 but inverse
  • Normio, on 10/11/2007, -4/+8I am a Wii60 guy, but I am getting sick of all these Nintendo fanboi articles on Digg. Give the PS3 a break.
  • Trat, on 10/11/2007, -6/+0LOL @ stuppid ps3 *****'s
  • Lasereth, on 10/11/2007, -5/+10WOW!!! A $250 console outsells a $600 console!!! R U serious???
    • qwerty1024, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1Yeah im sure you were predicting this before they were both released
    • KingGoonie, on 10/11/2007, -2/+1Keep thinking price is the main factor... keep thinking it...

      Its a factor, sure, but not the main one... If the price drops to the same as 360 more people will buy it, thats a fact... but it still won't be selling very well. Face it, its not just the damn price. If it was then the people I know who already own the system wouldnt be telling me they play Wii/360 much more.
  • LordHelmet, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Seems like the real issue is whether or not the 360 is outselling the ps3 in Japan. Nintendo will do fine there no matter what.
  • DarKnight90, on 10/11/2007, -3/+1My Wii has been collecting dust since I bought it. My XBox 360 has given me countless hours of play. It's find that it sells fast but dam where are the games?
    • KingGoonie, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1See I just don't get this...

      I have more games for the Wii then I have had for any system in so short a period of time... I think this has been the best launch year for any console in recent memory (starting with ps1/n64 as going further back I really don't remember)

      The PS2 hasn't had as many great games since November, neither has the 360... I don't see what all this no game BS is about.
  • KingGoonie, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2To all those comparing the ps3/wii competition to bmw/honda....
    YOU ARE IDIOTS!
    That is all... I have to keep it simple because if you don't understand how the 2 have NOTHING alike, then you don't understand much. Keep thinking the ps3 isn't selling well because of the price mainly.. keep thinking that...
  • enforcerpsu, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2Simple to say, Sony totally missed the boat with the PS3. You can still defend Sony all you want but the harsh reality is this:

    Its very very difficult to develop for.
    The graphic capabilities do not offer anything SIGNIFICANT beyond the 360.
    It is losing exclusives because its not selling units.
    Blu-ray shot the cost through the roof (get your real value equation out of my face, take a basic economics class and you would know why)
    No dedicated online service (yet, we'll see how that goes, Wii has the same problem)
    Games just aren't system sellers.
    Its gigantic.

    and the list goes on...
    • Lasereth, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1The only one of those that would prevent the console from selling is the price.
      • KingGoonie, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2really? Cause being difficult to develop for effects games released for it... which right now is a huge problem since they just aint that good... and um losing exclusives.. HUGE HUGE HUGE REASON, more so then price... and the graphics not being as so far and away better then anything known to man as they acted like they would be also hurts sales cause people don't see the big deal... well those people who think graphics matter more then gameplay, which it doesnt, but there are those people out there.

        PS3 isn't selling well cause overall it just aint that good a system.
  • seraph82, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3From a Wii owner -- please dont digg up this crap. It's not news, it doesn't matter, SO FREAKING WHAT. Please leave this ***** out and digg up some more interesting stuff.
  • greenmky, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2Chevy prices and targets for a specific, niche market to make a profit on the 'vette. They know they are only going to sell a handful and that is how the product is deisnged. This is more like Sony made a 40k massmarket SUV that sells like the Corvette instead of like a kid-hauling SUV.

    I don't think Corvette-level sales were what Sony was looking for when it designed the PS3, I think they were looking for more like Toyota Camry level sales.
  • JimmyJJWalker, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3I guess when all you have is sales, that's all that matters...?
  • OffPiste, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3I think I'm the typical PS-2 waiting to be a PS-3 owner. I've come VERY close to buying a PS-3. The lack of good games keeps me on the fence. That said I have too many great PS-1&2 games that I play constantly that keeps me from buying an X-box360 or a Wii. The Wii doesn't offer any real value for me. Poor graphics (compared to next gen consoles) no next gen HD-DVD/B-ray support, kiddie/boring games, and having to wave your arms around like a retard all keep the Wii off of my wish list. I exercise every morning by going for run in the REAL world. I don't want to do aerobics just to play a game. I want to sit on the couch and mash buttons thank you very much. If it weren't for all the games I own for the PS I'd probably get the X-box at this point. Bottom line for me and I assume most PS owners is I'll wait for some better games and a price drop. I'll leave the Wii for the Wiitards.
    • Mrstupid7, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1The only two games I've had to flail my arms about like an "idiot" are Wario Ware and Wii Sports. I guess you don't do any real life sports due to the flailing around like an idiot (the people that jog on my local greenway look like retards running by the way). The kiddie/boring games comment is just silly. I guess you don't even like to look and Wii games that are coming out or are already out.
      • CReyes4182, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1I own a Wii and I agree with OffPiste 100% They just shrank the gamecube down added new controller and a few extras like wifi(***** wifi but wifi none the less). Hell I've seen psp games that look better then some wii games.
        • Mrstupid7, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Well that's not the Wii's fault. Resident Evil 4 looks better than some games on the Xbox 360, and that's not Microsoft's fault. It's lazy developers. I'm not saying that the Wii is a powerhouse or anything and I'm doubting that HD-DVD and Blu ray are even going to be popular for at least the next four or five years.
  • jmdajr, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Damn, we are going to get flooded with non-games.
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