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9/11 Conspiracy Theories in Perspective
skeptic.com — Phil Mol é takes a look at the “9/11 Truth Movement” and shares with us his experience attending a weekend conference held in Chicago, organized by 911truth.org.
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- Herkimer56, on 03/24/2008, -10/+20Excellent article. I'm sure that the bury brigade of the Cult of 9/11 will bury it because it points out the many obvious misconceptions and flaws in the truther's theories.
- robbinzo, on 03/24/2008, -6/+616 diggs and 12 diggs for this comment when I arrived. Something fishy in Herkie's world methinks.
Buried for being utter bollocks.- Herkimer56, on 03/24/2008, -7/+4Nothing wrong in my world. I knew that you people would bury this simply because it disproves your idiotic theories. If there's anything wrong it has to be in the way that your littles brains are wired in. There's definitely a disconnect somewhere.
- robbinzo, on 03/24/2008, -6/+616 diggs and 12 diggs for this comment when I arrived. Something fishy in Herkie's world methinks.
- SquigglyP, on 03/24/2008, -7/+9nice article from TWO YEARS AGO.
- SpaceMonkeyZero, on 03/24/2008, -6/+17So? Conspiracy Theorists are still blathering on about theories that have been proved wrong years ago.
- masterofthebus, on 03/24/2008, -3/+4i guess the question is not if 9/11 was part of conspirancy, but if it was used as one...
- SquigglyP, on 03/24/2008, -7/+4and you can continue to ignore them.
The government loves these guys. They singlehandedly do all the work for them. They no longer have to release any information, because these guys may or may not have uncovered the ***** they may or may not have pulled. The problem is that they also tend to make up so much idiotic ***** that the ***** ends up overshadowing the truths (or what little accurate information they might have uncovered) and the masses just throw up their hands and disregard all of the information, no matter how credible it may be.
Look at the JFK assassination. The theorists were so busy trying to prove that there were multiple gunmen, they didn't even realize that they had practically proven already that there were links to the government from Oswald - our own AND the Russians - but no one gave a ***** cause it was included within all of these other crazy-ass theories and baseless 'debunkings' of the official story. Oswald was a spy. He was US trained and was either a Russian double agent or was involved in some other aspect with both parties. The fact that this information was already out there well before the US decided to release the declassified documents (late 90's or early 00's - I can't remember exactly when) just proves the point... there was so much noise then - just as there is now surrounding 9/11 - that you can't tell the ***** from the truth. Chances are the theorists in this case have hit on some things that actually are correct and deserve some looking into, but no one pays any attention because they think you have to buy into all of this other conspiracy ***** as well.
In the JFK assassination, we got the final pieces of the jigsaw puzzle well after half of the pieces had become fully lost to time. The odds now of ever really knowing for certain what exactly was going on at the time are slim to none. The same will eventually be true of the 9/11 sideshow unless people really start taking an objective look at the information, and not trying to make up these crazy ***** doomsday scenarios. I'm not too happy with the government right now, but I'm not about to just mindlessly blame Bush for everything that happens the way some people do every day here on Digg.
This article is pretty much just as mindless for disregarding the possibilities as the theorists are for subscribing to them wholeheartedly. It's not a religious debate, but that's quite often what it sounds like to me. It's just more politics.- Herkimer56, on 03/24/2008, -5/+4This is a religious debate for people like you. You believe in your dogma on faith alone. You can't prove your theories and ever piece of credible, verifiable evidence clearly shows that you people are absolutely wrong. Despite that, you continue to be true believers anyway.
"there was so much noise then - just as there is now surrounding 9/11 - that you can't tell the ***** from the truth."
You can always tell the ***** from the truth. When some ***** posts unfounded theories on the internet with no supporting material or credible evidence they are posting *****. For instance, the ***** about Oswald and the KGB. Pure *****. The KGB's own records show that they thought that he was just some kind of screwball and they rejected him. But please don't let the facts get in the way of a good conspiracy theory.- Observant1, on 03/25/2008, -2/+3no its purely speculation and betting, how many people it would actually take to pull herkimer's head out of his ass. FOADB
- SquigglyP, on 03/25/2008, -1/+3Maybe i wasn't clear: I don't believe the theorists at all. The point is that there are things they have brought up which, to me, are interesting and i feel deserve some further investigation.
The Oswald / KGB link is there. They may have documentation stating that he wasn't deeply involved - or involved at all - in their operations, but the link is there nevertheless. The fact that no one was investigating that angle in the immediate aftermath of the assassination means that there is a very high likeliness that there has been a loss of information and therefore a thorough investigation cannot be made. Time is of the essence in situations like that, and it is unfortunate that governments tend to try their hardest to keep most of the facts of cases such as this in the dark until it is far too late to really do anything with the information. The fact that they can hide the evidence away and just make up some ***** story is possible, and it shouldn't be. Granted, there's a lot of potential for leaks, but there have been many cases where significant information was kept in the dark for a great deal of time without anyone having the slightest knowledge.
I try to be as critical about things as I can be, but I'm only human.
- Herkimer56, on 03/24/2008, -5/+4This is a religious debate for people like you. You believe in your dogma on faith alone. You can't prove your theories and ever piece of credible, verifiable evidence clearly shows that you people are absolutely wrong. Despite that, you continue to be true believers anyway.
- SpaceMonkeyZero, on 03/24/2008, -6/+17So? Conspiracy Theorists are still blathering on about theories that have been proved wrong years ago.
- jcm267, on 03/24/2008, -7/+15dugg and favorited!
- ViperDaimao, on 03/24/2008, -5/+12author does get at least on thing wrong. The Bush administration did not back out of the Kyoto Protocol. The Senate voted against it 98-2 before Bush took office. The US has also done a better job at reducing emissions than most of the kyoto signers.
- alice104, on 03/25/2008, -2/+6I'm happy to see that articles like this get a whopping 24 diggs (as of this comment). It just shows me the bury brigade has a big mouth, but is small in numbers. And the guy above is right, this article is from two years ago.
- PrincssZelda143, on 04/30/2008, -1/+1Even if this article is from two years ago, 9/11 was a tragic event that is unforgettable. It effected every one in many different ways. It's so easy for Americans to point fingers at the government because we put our trust in them to protect our country. Because such an atrocious act was done, of course we are going to question how they could have been so blind. All these mixed emotions cause us to question the government's integrity.
- Klingon00, on 06/02/2008, -0/+2Both 9/11 and Hurricane Katrina both underscore that it is foolish to place all your trust the government to protect you no matter how well intentioned you believe it to be. Those who think the government should be like a mother and protect us from ourselves and provide health care, or guaranteed jobs, welfare or whatever "free stuff" folks may expect from their government, are placing their trust in an organization that is too large to care and powerful enough, that mistakes, when made can be huge.
I believe that only through the power of the individual to be prepared for disasters, can go much further toward reducing the effects regardless if they are man made or natural and better enables folks to help out the less fortunate than sitting back and expecting the government to do something right for a change. I believe this is the way to go and the best way to protect our individual freedoms. Government should be viewed as a necessary evil, only allowed to be large enough to get the job done, but small enough that it doesn't step on the toes and rights of it's citizens.
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