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dailymail.co.uk — How scientists are bringing dinosaurs back to life with the help of the humble chicken.
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- reyoo30309, on 06/14/2008, -7/+497Did the movies teach us nothing?!
- BradHAWK, on 06/15/2008, -1/+107Yes, they taught us to replace missing DNA segments with material from chickens rather than frogs.
- dafragsta, on 06/15/2008, -3/+61Clever girl.
- DeathfireD, on 06/15/2008, -3/+28Shoot her! Shoot her!
- DickyT83, on 06/15/2008, -7/+1I thought it was a mosquito
- Ravatar, on 06/15/2008, -0/+3The preserved mosquito held the dino DNA.
- pault107, on 06/15/2008, -0/+3All these years you have misunderstood the film? Nice.
- Armitage2k, on 06/16/2008, -0/+1People forget about how dangerous chickens are... let's start with the pecking.. they peck... the ***** outta you... if there is more than 1... they can be dangerous... oh, and how about the whole thing where they keep moving when their heads are removed.... CHICKENS are part ZOMBIE!! Now, I know, here is an idea, and I am just spit-balling... let's turn this zombie pecking machine into a 6 foot carnivorous zombie pecking machine... that the normal everyday person has trouble catching for dinner... yeah... that is what needs to happen...
- intangible, on 06/16/2008, -0/+1They only attack you if you strike one over and over with your sword... Then it turns red and calls in a whole armada of attack chickens.
Moral: Leave the chickens alone!
- intangible, on 06/16/2008, -0/+1They only attack you if you strike one over and over with your sword... Then it turns red and calls in a whole armada of attack chickens.
- dafragsta, on 06/15/2008, -3/+61Clever girl.
- h4mx0r, on 06/15/2008, -16/+1http://img.waffleimages.com/829dad1b66ebc72704fefd ...
- jeremymccurdy, on 06/15/2008, -0/+3You can't hotlink to Waffleimages, it's for the SA forums only.
- Lukesed, on 06/15/2008, -0/+3Mirror:
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/2204/breadraptorv ... - Papajohn56, on 06/15/2008, -0/+3lol SA blows
- jeremymccurdy, on 06/15/2008, -1/+71Yes, they taught us dinosaurs are awesome.
- 180andback, on 06/15/2008, -2/+18You must not have seen Jurassic Park 3.
- jeremymccurdy, on 06/15/2008, -2/+29Dinosaurs are awesome, ***** movies about them aren't.
- norman619, on 06/15/2008, -10/+3You must be one of those people that believe people are as retarded as the people in those infomercials messing up the simplest tasks. Fact is dinosaurs are just animals like any other. If anything they will NOT be able to survive because of our MUCH lower O2 content and much thinner atmosphere today. The atmosphere they lived in was MUCH thicker. Try to remember things like that since Hollywood always ignores them. There would be no escaped dinos running in the wild since they would suffocate and die.
- jeremymccurdy, on 06/15/2008, -0/+24Um, how exactly do you know that this will be the case? I mean have you encountered a lot of suffocating dinosaurs? I'm not saying you're wrong, I honestly don't know. But I say at least give it shot, and if the things can't breath, then there can always be artificial environments made to help sustain and study them... And later on mount gattling guns on them for fun.
- DeathfireD, on 06/15/2008, -0/+3They're using moder day animals with selective strands of dino DNA. I have little doubt that the air will have a HUGE effect on the dino hybrids if they're ever conceived.
Would be funny if we end up with T-Rexes clucking like chickens. - arplayer2k, on 06/15/2008, -2/+1I'm taking it the person who said "Dinosaurs are awesome" meant in the movies. There can only be one Alpha species on earth at any given time, and it wouldn't be too far off to wager that Dinosaurs > Man in the Alpha Species hierarchy.
Just a thought. - btjaus, on 06/15/2008, -0/+4I'm pretty sure that Dinosaur loses to bullets.
- crazygamer67688, on 06/15/2008, -0/+1@norman:
by the way, the CO2 content was much higher back then, hence the plants. Therefore, the opposite would be true, and the said dinosaurs would flourish because of the INCREASED O2. read the book, dummy.
- 180andback, on 06/15/2008, -2/+18You must not have seen Jurassic Park 3.
- KesshoRyu, on 06/15/2008, -5/+16The goggles! They do nothing!
- palehorse864, on 06/15/2008, -0/+6http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uE9Dgp4zlPg&NR=1
- thesprucegoose, on 06/15/2008, -0/+2Up and at them!
- Firespray1138, on 06/15/2008, -0/+1MENDOZAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- CaLeDee, on 06/15/2008, -10/+2lawl
- Vellvoot, on 06/15/2008, -5/+2Hahah reyoo, i'm afraid there's nothing sacred.
WOOP WOOP get me a pet dinosaur.
I want to hear more about cloning this Neanderthal, now THAT is something to be interested in. - ari25, on 06/15/2008, -1/+2I don't know... three movies aren't enough, I'll wait for the fourth one and let you know.
- snapcase, on 06/15/2008, -0/+6The movies taught us that if we manage to breed dinosaurs then we should make sure to invite all the lawyers we can to come visit the park.
- joshuabowers, on 06/15/2008, -0/+1When you gotta go, you gotta go.
- NecroSexy, on 06/15/2008, -0/+3Lesson from the movie: try to schedule around tropical storms.
- Ortheos, on 06/15/2008, -0/+3"Did the movies teach us nothing?"
You go to the movies to learn? - bluezinc, on 06/15/2008, -1/+1They taught us never to VISIT the park, not that we shouldn't create it and fill it to the brim with dinos and annoying fat tourists.
- lamiaconfitor, on 06/15/2008, -0/+4and the video games taught me that scientists carry large amounts of tranq darts, guns and high explosives... ahhh, sega.
- jfsimard79, on 06/15/2008, -0/+1Apprently not. Jeff Goldblum must be pissed.
- jebzaki, on 06/15/2008, -0/+1they taught us that one man can run from dinosaurs and live multiple times on different occasions. We should be safe :P
- tshawkins, on 06/15/2008, -1/+1Errrh, the movies are a fantasy, a fiction, what possible relevance would they have... except to understand the developing gullibility and susceptibility of modern day man to mass media output....
- jks139, on 06/16/2008, -0/+1Did the BOOK teach us nothing?
- BradHAWK, on 06/15/2008, -1/+107Yes, they taught us to replace missing DNA segments with material from chickens rather than frogs.
- fussbucket, on 06/14/2008, -2/+207there is nothing humble about the chicken.
- Ryan166, on 06/15/2008, -3/+118...they ARE rather cocky.
*facepalm*- 180andback, on 06/15/2008, -5/+29I can't, in good conscience, digg you up for that.
- paulvq, on 06/15/2008, -1/+45I can't, in good conscience, digg him down for that.
- Papajohn56, on 06/15/2008, -2/+28if your conscience is fixated on ***** jokes you have one skewed moral compass
- jeremymccurdy, on 06/15/2008, -0/+21My conscience revolves around the chicken crossing the road. And nothing else.
- SQLserver, on 06/15/2008, -0/+14Then why are all of his diggs +?
- 180andback, on 06/15/2008, -5/+29I can't, in good conscience, digg you up for that.
- ZeeZee2k, on 06/15/2008, -4/+10Dinosaur meat is delicious!
- yotsukado, on 06/15/2008, -2/+9This raises an important question. Do dinosaur's taste like chicken?
- Culyt, on 06/15/2008, -1/+10Does raise the question of when the first place will start serving dinosaur. There not endangered since they are extinct.
- lamiaconfitor, on 06/15/2008, -0/+1To culyt... its going to be a place owned by Ted Turner...
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&sa=X&o ...
- yotsukado, on 06/15/2008, -2/+9This raises an important question. Do dinosaur's taste like chicken?
- 223Sniper, on 06/15/2008, -0/+13I have a few chickens (13) and i can tell you that if anything is terrifying its the society those things create and the way they feed. If i toss them an apple they will swarm over the thing like a bunch of piranha. I can see the relation to dinosaurs in them.
- Kyan, on 06/15/2008, -0/+4Oooooo, I've been around chickens and what you say is completely true. And my mind now sees a bunch of raptors acting like chickens...scary.
While reading the article gave me a "cool idea - go for it, you scientists" type of feeling, the idea of a bunch of calf-sized chickens with fangs and claws suddenly makes think, "NOOOOOO, STOP!!!!" - Forsetius, on 06/15/2008, -0/+0Second that. I've been telling that for long time. Just look at the eye, look at their pace... What leads to the conclusion that chickens are good only at the pan.
- Navicerts, on 06/15/2008, -0/+2I work with chickens as well. They are unlike other animals (aside from humans) in the fact that they will peck away at each other until they kill one another (unprovoked).
- Kyan, on 06/15/2008, -0/+4Oooooo, I've been around chickens and what you say is completely true. And my mind now sees a bunch of raptors acting like chickens...scary.
- Ryan166, on 06/15/2008, -3/+118...they ARE rather cocky.
- arrrapirate, on 06/14/2008, -2/+57this is one of my biggest childhood dreams come true.
also, so much for the old saying about a hen's tooth.- Brad324, on 06/15/2008, -1/+51If the end of humanity was caused by dinosaurs, that would be so much more badass than global warming.
- Vuredel, on 06/15/2008, -0/+9In the vein of Dr. Ian Malcolm...
Climate destroys dinosaurs.
Man creates dinosaurs.
Dinosaurs destroy man.
Climate destroys dinosaurs... again.
Sounds like a fun cycle. Somebody would have to reverse-engineer humans again, though. Perhaps super-intelligent chickens?- DeathfireD, on 06/15/2008, -9/+4Women inherits earth.
- Vuredel, on 06/15/2008, -0/+9In the vein of Dr. Ian Malcolm...
- synthoid, on 06/15/2008, -2/+10Only Jesus can make the dinosaurs come back. We must turn to the Bible if we want something.
- Zebceponaf, on 06/15/2008, -1/+5oh lol...
I dugg you up just because.
- Zebceponaf, on 06/15/2008, -1/+5oh lol...
- Brad324, on 06/15/2008, -1/+51If the end of humanity was caused by dinosaurs, that would be so much more badass than global warming.
- ArnoldPettibone, on 07/21/2008, -4/+234Clever girl...
- Jennefah, on 06/15/2008, -0/+4You found the primer?
Oh... sorry, wrong movie.- Firespray1138, on 06/15/2008, -0/+15God creates dinosaurs, God destroys dinosaurs...
God creates man, man destroys God, man creates dinosaurs...- hwy9nightkid, on 06/15/2008, -0/+9dinosaurs eat man......woman inherits the earth
- Firespray1138, on 06/15/2008, -0/+15God creates dinosaurs, God destroys dinosaurs...
- Jennefah, on 06/15/2008, -0/+4You found the primer?
- MacSuxWindozSux, on 06/14/2008, -3/+303The only way the can scare me with this is if the put Newman in charge of the computers.
- Chebsi, on 06/15/2008, -1/+43...Newman!
- snareguy17, on 06/15/2008, -1/+57Dennis Nedry: [on computer] unh-unh-uh, you didn't say the magic word.
Ray Arnold: PLEASE! GODAMMIT! I hate this hacker crap!- defectDS, on 06/15/2008, -4/+16> access security
access: PERMISSION DENIED
> access security grid
access: PERMISSION DENIED
> access main security grid
access: PERMISSION DENIED....and....
YOU DIDN'T SAY THE MAGIC WORD!
YOU DIDN'T SAY THE MAGIC WORD!
YOU DIDN'T SAY THE MAGIC WORD!
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YOU DIDN'T SAY THE MAGIC WORD!
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YOU DIDN'T SAY THE MAGIC WORD!
YOU DIDN'T SAY THE MAGIC WORD!
YOU DIDN'T SAY THE MAGIC WORD!
YOU DIDN'T SAY THE MAGIC WORD!
YOU DIDN'T SAY THE MAGIC WORD!
YOU DIDN'T SAY THE MAGIC WORD!
YOU DIDN'T SAY THE MAGIC WORD!
YOU DIDN'T SAY THE MAGIC WORD!- asantos, on 06/15/2008, -3/+1Now... THIS, is why i love digg.
- Auryn, on 06/15/2008, -0/+9http://www.merentha-underground.com/404.htm
- PixelMagic, on 06/15/2008, -2/+1It looks like he's pointing to his dick and saying "Suck it, bitch."
- defectDS, on 06/15/2008, -4/+16> access security
- Kinnkster, on 06/15/2008, -0/+5Still looking for that wallpaper...
- mnky9800n, on 06/15/2008, -0/+4What about a PC that runs Unix and uses a Mac mouse.
- Kinnkster, on 06/15/2008, -0/+6Already got one of those.
- mnky9800n, on 06/15/2008, -0/+4What about a PC that runs Unix and uses a Mac mouse.
- greenlight2001, on 06/15/2008, -0/+15"Uh uh ah... you didn't say the magic word..."
- Laputian, on 06/15/2008, -0/+2Pleeeeeeeaaaaaaase.....GOD DAMMIT!!!!
- Archer007, on 06/15/2008, -1/+6Ah, but the computers would be running Linux today!
- bipolarruledout, on 06/15/2008, -1/+3You say that like it's a good thing.
- Brian48216, on 06/15/2008, -0/+4like that'd do any good-
Jurassic Park ran on Unix.- praisethelard, on 06/15/2008, -0/+2I know this!
- Varz, on 06/15/2008, -0/+3That computer was running Unix already.
- ChromaVita, on 06/15/2008, -0/+1This is UNIX. I KNOW THIS!
- megamod, on 06/15/2008, -9/+1just newmam? what about if they put "hacker" Kevin Rose in charge?
- greenlight2001, on 06/15/2008, -1/+8Get off your knees.
- Myonosken, on 06/15/2008, -1/+1Pull it out of your mouth.
- carlnewton, on 06/15/2008, -0/+1http://youtube.com/watch?v=HLv6Jw-RsoY
- SoftS, on 06/14/2008, -15/+3As I always said - it is possible to extract old genes because, for example human embrio in its development goes through all evolution phases, so old genes must be there - in us.
And so it must be true for birds also...- migshark, on 06/15/2008, -0/+6Yes but I'd rather not return to my meteorite form if it's all the same to you. I'm not a gargoyle.
- TheClone, on 06/15/2008, -0/+12The idea that we go through different evolutionary phases before being born is called recapitulation theory and modern biologists reject the idea. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recapitulation_theory
- TheHen, on 06/16/2008, -0/+0How would we know that you have "always said" that?
Who are you? And why do you think we have been keeping an update on your view about old genes?
- fpaudon, on 06/14/2008, -0/+194"Whether it is a good idea or not is another question..."
I have a feeling that the desire to see a living dinosaur is going to trump any ethical or moral reasoning on this issue- jeremymccurdy, on 06/15/2008, -0/+76I'm looking forward to the day that we not only bring back dinosaurs regardless of any moral *****, but we manage to mount lasers on them just for the sake of how cool it would be.
- honesttussey, on 06/15/2008, -1/+9There was a cartoon I used to watch in the 80's about this very same idea. Usual good guys vs bad guys thing but the vehicles they used to attack each other were trained dinosaurs with armor and laser guns attached to them.
- 180andback, on 06/15/2008, -0/+9Dino-Riders! I had the T-Rex. But it always irritated me that the damned thing had three fingers.
- cyrix, on 06/15/2008, -0/+7Oh my god thank you for bringing that up. I totally forgot about that show ever since I was a kid. Man....back when we were kids we had kick ass action cartoons. Not this Fairly Odd Parents kinda *****.
- IsaiahCisneroz, on 06/15/2008, -0/+6Yes someone else did watch this! This show was a classic. The T-Rex had a ***** metal mask with laser eyes! How much cooler does it get???
- praisethelard, on 06/15/2008, -3/+2Dude...Fairly Odd Parents is awesome.
- DforSpiD, on 06/15/2008, -0/+2Fairly Odd Parents is just Dexter's Laboratory with fairies...
- cheesenuggets1, on 06/15/2008, -1/+3And on sharks as well.
- honesttussey, on 06/15/2008, -1/+9There was a cartoon I used to watch in the 80's about this very same idea. Usual good guys vs bad guys thing but the vehicles they used to attack each other were trained dinosaurs with armor and laser guns attached to them.
- centerblack, on 06/15/2008, -0/+9We are the absolute top of the food chain. We're basically ubiquitous on this planet. Dumb people smart people, weak, strong... in at least some countries all have an equal chance to reproduce.
Does civilization mean the end of natural evolution?
I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with creating a "dinosaur". Studies like this will be very important to understanding our own genes and ancestry. That knowledge could be very useful in future medical applications.
Dailymail though.. lol- RobotBuddha, on 06/15/2008, -0/+2That's what the ants want you to think.
- bipolarruledout, on 06/15/2008, -0/+3I would argue that the dumb have a better chance to reproduce... at least in practice.
- MasterGrief, on 06/15/2008, -1/+4I'd love dinosaurs to be used as beasts of war.
- centerblack, on 06/15/2008, -3/+1War is violence and violence is an unfortunate side effect of ignorance, greed, and poverty.
- Daz3, on 06/15/2008, -7/+2"We are the absolute top of the food chain. "
Virus.- DubiousDrewski, on 06/15/2008, -1/+2You meant bacteria.
- Haoie, on 06/15/2008, -9/+1I agree. Shouldn't extinct creatures be kept extinct?
- isaactwito, on 06/15/2008, -0/+10I have a feeling that RIDING a dinosaur would trump any ethical or moral reasoning on this issue. Furthermore, this would be the extinction of the horse as we know it. Who would ride a horse over a DINOSAUR?
- FraserBilly, on 06/15/2008, -2/+2it may be ethical, but definitely not moral
- clayh, on 06/16/2008, -0/+1ba-zing!
- lamiaconfitor, on 06/15/2008, -0/+2"Moral reasoning?" Okay, what could possibly be immoral about it? someone is going to have to explain how it is unethical or immoral? like carnivorous animals don't exist today? is that comparable to calling people who breed lions or tigers evil?
- jeremymccurdy, on 06/15/2008, -0/+76I'm looking forward to the day that we not only bring back dinosaurs regardless of any moral *****, but we manage to mount lasers on them just for the sake of how cool it would be.
- fmtoffolo, on 06/14/2008, -2/+98They breed raptors?..
- edwartica, on 06/15/2008, -0/+9That was my reaction, but they actually said "raptor sized dinosaur." I'm hoping they don't breed actual raptors.
- MadOgre, on 06/15/2008, -2/+2Well, I love hunting coyotes... I'd love hunting Raptors too.
- crazycraka, on 06/15/2008, -0/+4Yep plus think of the fuel saving benefits of being able to own a real life Yoshi
Reminds me of this video..
www.collegehumor.com/video:1788882 - PixelMagic, on 06/15/2008, -0/+5They'd be hunting you. You'd be staring at one, and be attacked by two raptors from the side, that you didn't even know were there.
- crazycraka, on 06/15/2008, -0/+4Yep plus think of the fuel saving benefits of being able to own a real life Yoshi
- zeabu, on 06/15/2008, -0/+1The one they experimented on and gave teeth was a chicken, chickens are a spin-off from raptors, so I'd say, yes....
- MadOgre, on 06/15/2008, -2/+2Well, I love hunting coyotes... I'd love hunting Raptors too.
- Tralobyte, on 06/15/2008, -0/+4Randall Munroe is gonna have a field day.
- edwartica, on 06/15/2008, -0/+9That was my reaction, but they actually said "raptor sized dinosaur." I'm hoping they don't breed actual raptors.
- D14BL0, on 06/15/2008, -4/+89Uh uh uh, you didn't say the magic word.
- Clugenheim, on 06/15/2008, -12/+3***** the magic word dude..
FUUUUUCK ITTTTTT- ModernGeek, on 06/15/2008, -4/+2WE'LL DO IT LIVE!
- Archer007, on 06/15/2008, -7/+4Linux.
- thepretext, on 06/15/2008, -0/+8It was a UNIX system. She knew it.
- coltraning, on 06/15/2008, -1/+4Indeed it was UNIX, in fact it was IRIX.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRIX
- coltraning, on 06/15/2008, -1/+4Indeed it was UNIX, in fact it was IRIX.
- thepretext, on 06/15/2008, -0/+8It was a UNIX system. She knew it.
- Clugenheim, on 06/15/2008, -12/+3***** the magic word dude..
- DroppedGT, on 06/15/2008, -1/+54did they say dinosaur sized chickens?
- TheCasablancan, on 06/15/2008, -1/+36I'm going to KFC.
- shamanking911, on 06/15/2008, -0/+14Dinosaur Chicken Strips, a dozen for $11.99
- DaHuuuuuudge, on 06/15/2008, -1/+13In Jurassic Park, dinosaur eats you!
- Kyan, on 06/15/2008, -2/+1No kidding, Einstein.
- DaHuuuuuudge, on 06/15/2008, -1/+13In Jurassic Park, dinosaur eats you!
- isaactwito, on 06/15/2008, -1/+1Dude, barbecues just got so much cooler. Who hear wants to eat some dinosaur? I know I do!
- sumgi, on 06/15/2008, -0/+16 ton chickens with saber teeth and grabby claws, brilliant!!
- P8ntBal1551, on 06/15/2008, -0/+20all this time, i thought chickens were for eating
- SQLserver, on 06/15/2008, -7/+5In Soviet Russia, the chickens eat YOU!
- Forsetius, on 06/15/2008, -1/+1Same for Chuck Norris in the US, isn't it? ;)
- SQLserver, on 06/15/2008, -7/+5In Soviet Russia, the chickens eat YOU!
- Ramenamen, on 06/15/2008, -1/+16It's frightening in the dark.
- edwartica, on 06/15/2008, -1/+6I'm afraid they're gonna harm me
Cause they sure don't act like barney
And they think that I'm there dinner,
not there friend
oh no!
- edwartica, on 06/15/2008, -1/+6I'm afraid they're gonna harm me
- acegi, on 06/15/2008, -4/+134Holy ***** it's a raptor.
get in the car - jmbrysk, on 06/15/2008, -16/+11Buried for Daily Mail.
- Lukesed, on 06/15/2008, -3/+7Honestly, I will never understand why anyone would post a daily mail story rather than a legit source. I don't feel informed, I'm just sitting here wondering exactly how much of the article is sensationalist *****.
- arcooke, on 06/15/2008, -0/+2Eh, I thought this was actually a really good read. Much better than most dailymail articles.
- Daz3, on 06/15/2008, -1/+2All hail the Daily fail.
- aer0sense, on 06/15/2008, -10/+16Dailymail is ftw, amirite?
- Kinnkster, on 06/15/2008, -3/+16I'de be allot more excited if it wasn't coming from them.
- dOOBiEx213, on 06/15/2008, -3/+2What I wanna know is where that "e" come from after "I'd."
- Kinnkster, on 06/15/2008, -1/+4What I wanna know is why you complain about trivial grammatical errors when you're making them yourself.
- dOOBiEx213, on 06/15/2008, -3/+2What I wanna know is where that "e" come from after "I'd."
- CColtManM, on 06/15/2008, -0/+2I don't care for the writing. It's as if every sentence is a new paragraph.
- MacEnvy, on 06/15/2008, -0/+1Daily Mail readers need their news broken up into bite-sized portions.
No, seriously.
- MacEnvy, on 06/15/2008, -0/+1Daily Mail readers need their news broken up into bite-sized portions.
- whyufail, on 06/15/2008, -0/+1Except this exact thing has been being broadcast on Discovery, specifically regarding that show about all this they're doing soon, for a month at least now.
- Kinnkster, on 06/15/2008, -3/+16I'de be allot more excited if it wasn't coming from them.
- sy2k, on 06/15/2008, -2/+55hold on to your butts...
Has anyone used that yet?- defectDS, on 06/15/2008, -0/+12Must go faster, must go faster, must go faster.
- JoeCool1986, on 06/15/2008, -0/+1Jeff Goldblum has an identical scene with the same line in Independence Day, if you haven't noticed. I guess it's just his thing.
- Vuredel, on 06/15/2008, -3/+1The original line was said by Samuel L. Jackson.
- thepretext, on 06/15/2008, -0/+4"NONONONONONONONONONONO"
- Volaitle86, on 06/15/2008, -0/+1He's referring to the must go faster line Vuredel
- nonstop87, on 06/15/2008, -0/+2Checkmate.
- JoeCool1986, on 06/15/2008, -0/+1Jeff Goldblum has an identical scene with the same line in Independence Day, if you haven't noticed. I guess it's just his thing.
- defectDS, on 06/15/2008, -0/+12Must go faster, must go faster, must go faster.
- Revolution101, on 06/15/2008, -5/+25i hope the raptors have feathers in the IRL version.
- atlquaker, on 06/15/2008, -2/+58Newmann better not try to steal the DNA again...
- mu0p, on 06/15/2008, -4/+1i LOL'd
- barandon0D9, on 06/15/2008, -1/+4Wasn't he smuggling them out in a modded can of shaving cream? Why shaving cream? Oh well, that dilophosaurus totally killed him and the shaving cream was buried in mud.
Dilophosaurus is not in the Digg dictionary. - NecroSexy, on 06/15/2008, -0/+1*hushed tone* Newman!
- x0rcist, on 06/15/2008, -11/+6I dunno about you guys, but I think that sounds like a horrible idea.
- centerblack, on 06/15/2008, -1/+6dude, you can get past a dog, nobody ***** with a triceratops!
- brokencrystal, on 06/15/2008, -2/+1Why? I have guns... you just have to pop off a clip or two, that's all.
- dynelol, on 06/15/2008, -0/+4Did you forget about the whole "cleaning the ***** out of your pants" part?
- Albumen, on 06/15/2008, -13/+6"According to Jack Horner, professor of palaeontology at Montana State University,..."
and former Porm Film industry mogul...- edwartica, on 06/15/2008, -1/+3No, no, no! Jack Horner is the famous jack of the tales! He was the beanstock climber / giant killer, he was jack frost, and he went up the hill with Jill. He's currently trying to outrun the librarians, whilst banging all three of them of them. Am I the only one who reads Fables? Gawd!
- thefinger, on 06/15/2008, -2/+1According to Jack Horner, professor of palaeontology at Montana State University
Christmas pie makes damn good eatin'.
- Quake120, on 06/15/2008, -1/+42Don't hire anybody named Dennis and check all shaving cream cans on everybody's desks...
- bipolarruledout, on 06/15/2008, -1/+1Ignore all pringles cans.
/Sponsored by the TSA.
- bipolarruledout, on 06/15/2008, -1/+1Ignore all pringles cans.
- mecharabbit, on 06/15/2008, -2/+32Oh great, now I'll have to check under my bed for raptors before I go to sleep every night.
- Quake120, on 06/15/2008, -4/+36I'd catch it and train it to be ridable and show off my epic mount.
- dynelol, on 06/15/2008, -1/+22I'll go to your mom's and show off my epic mount.
- Quake120, on 06/15/2008, -2/+23Sorry, she doesn't like dwarves...
- dynelol, on 06/15/2008, -1/+22I'll go to your mom's and show off my epic mount.
- jeremymccurdy, on 06/15/2008, -0/+8I already do that, along with checking the closet for robo-mormons, and checking my drawers for gnomes with the face of Elvis.
- mecharabbit, on 06/15/2008, -0/+1only thing worse than robo-mormons is robo-jehovah's-witnesses
- Quake120, on 06/15/2008, -4/+36I'd catch it and train it to be ridable and show off my epic mount.
- swrostmore, on 06/15/2008, -4/+99I don't give a ***** what anyone says, this is a GREAT idea.
- dynelol, on 06/15/2008, -9/+2Is not. I want it to happen, too, though. I was obsessed with dinosaurs when i was a kid.
- ScottyQuest, on 06/15/2008, -2/+5That's your problem; you're so concerned about whether or not you could clone dinosaurs that you never stopped to think if you *should*!
- willster580, on 06/15/2008, -6/+1Or a waste of money.
- ChromaVita, on 06/15/2008, -0/+5Breeding some god damned Dinosaurs is a waste of money? What the hell do you consider a legitimate use of money?
- baylat, on 06/15/2008, -1/+1Weapons of Mass Destruction!! *Evil laugh*
- ChromaVita, on 06/15/2008, -0/+5Breeding some god damned Dinosaurs is a waste of money? What the hell do you consider a legitimate use of money?
- Dropscience, on 06/15/2008, -0/+12Lets see what you think when they start becoming functional members of society, using up our tax monies on welfare, wasting our gas, taking our women
- GoGoPoCoSo, on 06/15/2008, -0/+14mmmm...stegosaurus meat...
- FaithclubDotNet, on 06/15/2008, -0/+17KFS
- theguitarman2, on 06/15/2008, -5/+1KFS?
- dynelol, on 06/15/2008, -0/+7Moron.
- 4321234, on 06/15/2008, -0/+4Kentucky fried stegosaurus. Duh.
- SQLserver, on 06/15/2008, -0/+8Kentucky Fried Stegosaurus.
OM NOM NOM NOM NOM.
- theguitarman2, on 06/15/2008, -5/+1KFS?
- Patrickdnj, on 06/15/2008, -7/+1That was unintentionally gay. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Right?
- FaithclubDotNet, on 06/15/2008, -0/+17KFS
- Mesmascizer, on 06/15/2008, -0/+25Oh come on what could possibly go wrong? we seperated them from us with an electric fence.
- nicksauce, on 06/15/2008, -0/+13Can I get a little more hyperbole with my headline please?
- palehorse864, on 06/15/2008, -1/+3You can, but it'll be one of your sides. If you like though, you can substitute your hyperbole with bacon for a dollar extra.
- frostyausty, on 06/15/2008, -2/+87http://xkcd.com/155/
- SQLserver, on 06/15/2008, -0/+22"How to tell if my neighbors are raptors"
.... - tobias19, on 06/15/2008, -0/+3http://xkcd.com/87/
- SQLserver, on 06/15/2008, -0/+22"How to tell if my neighbors are raptors"
- s4g4n, on 06/15/2008, -5/+38Raptor jesus doesn't approve.
- jeremymccurdy, on 06/15/2008, -4/+6This is just how his second coming will happen.
- desuexmachina, on 06/15/2008, -1/+8Scientists, with the help of the lowly chicken and the Shroud of Turin, announced today the re-creation of Our Lord and Saviour, the Raptor Jesus.
- MasterGrief, on 06/15/2008, -1/+29He went extinct for your sins
- jeremymccurdy, on 06/15/2008, -4/+6This is just how his second coming will happen.
- dhaugen, on 06/15/2008, -2/+17why are people against this. they're not trying to do this just because they saw it in a movie. this is a chance to better understand life. also this could have benefits in the medicinal area, dinosaurs had highly evolved immune systems and we could learn a lot from that.
- desuexmachina, on 06/15/2008, -0/+7Because the people who saw the movie know what's going to happen. People are against most genetic manipulation and the media certainly feeds their anti-tech attitudes. Crichton certainly helps people fear new technologies, it's his whole schtick.
How do you know they had highly evolved immune systems? They might have and I'm all for checking it out but most people won't be.- LexisNexis, on 06/15/2008, -0/+3Probably because they were the most successful species to ever walk this planet, living over 160 million years. We've been here, what, 200,000 years and already our survival is iffy.
- bipolarruledout, on 06/15/2008, -2/+0or not.
- desuexmachina, on 06/15/2008, -0/+3I don't agree with the idea that our survival is iffy. If you're talking about us global warming ourselves, then I would like to argue that we lived through an ice age when we were a lot less advanced. We may not survive 6-7 billion strong but we'll certainly survive. Trilobytes lived 300 million years, we don't even know what wiped them out, but they're gone.
Luck has nothing to do with species survival. An asteroid strike, a neutron pulse, super volcanos are all beyond the control of a species, but we're still the most likely to survive most disasters because we're really good at adapting.
- LexisNexis, on 06/15/2008, -0/+3Probably because they were the most successful species to ever walk this planet, living over 160 million years. We've been here, what, 200,000 years and already our survival is iffy.
- edwartica, on 06/15/2008, -1/+10Part of me says that there's a reason we evolved after the dinosaurs had died.
- desuexmachina, on 06/15/2008, -0/+4Little mammals found it hard to evolve into bigger and better things when there were animals the size of buses wandering around killing and eating anything big enough. Once those were gone it was our turn.
I would love to eat a steak made from a brachiosaurus even if it tasted bad.- bipolarruledout, on 06/15/2008, -3/+0What would PETA say?
- mcberg182, on 06/15/2008, -1/+5Who cares about PETA?
- desuexmachina, on 06/15/2008, -1/+2Probably the same thing they say about eating cows but that doesn't stop me from loving steak.
- zeabu, on 06/15/2008, -0/+1Dinos don't have fur.
- Armitage2k, on 06/16/2008, -0/+2The members of PITA would protest, until they got pecked to death by a bunch of horse sized chickens...
- desuexmachina, on 06/15/2008, -0/+4Little mammals found it hard to evolve into bigger and better things when there were animals the size of buses wandering around killing and eating anything big enough. Once those were gone it was our turn.
- init100, on 06/15/2008, -1/+8Because it will shatter their silly belief that the Earth is only 6000 years old.
- dhaugen, on 06/15/2008, -0/+4exactly. if people's thoughts weren't so clouded by the churches they'd actually have enough sense to see that this isn't a bad thing.
- desuexmachina, on 06/15/2008, -0/+7Because the people who saw the movie know what's going to happen. People are against most genetic manipulation and the media certainly feeds their anti-tech attitudes. Crichton certainly helps people fear new technologies, it's his whole schtick.
- lmbb20, on 06/15/2008, -1/+14Please god let this story be true!!!!!!
- Nudar, on 06/15/2008, -2/+1Trust in God and you will see all His creatures restored in the Earth made new.
- lmbb20, on 06/15/2008, -0/+1I didn't capitalize god. :/
- snowbones, on 06/15/2008, -0/+70This is UNIX! I know this!
- 180andback, on 06/15/2008, -1/+15Yes, Lex! Now quickly, type ls to bring up the 3D flight simulator!
- Quake120, on 06/15/2008, -0/+26It took her too long. I would have just done:
sudo /etc/init.d/jurassicpark restart- EllimistX, on 06/15/2008, -2/+9sudo make me a sandwich
- Wartz, on 06/15/2008, -4/+1sammich*
use correct spelling next time. - sparksalot, on 06/15/2008, -0/+0xkcd :)
- Wartz, on 06/15/2008, -4/+1sammich*
- EllimistX, on 06/15/2008, -2/+9sudo make me a sandwich
- surfacewound, on 06/15/2008, -3/+8Hold on to your butts...
- gab00n, on 06/15/2008, -6/+8How long before Dick Cheney attaches laser to their freaking heads?
- isunktheship, on 06/15/2008, -0/+21LIFE WILL FIND A WAY!
Guess I can't live in San Diego anymore.. - adlep, on 06/15/2008, -2/+6The question is:
Does it taste like a chicken?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGrqW3nx5HM- Dr00pieS, on 06/15/2008, -0/+2The question really is:
Will it blend?
- Dr00pieS, on 06/15/2008, -0/+2The question really is:
- a1cd, on 06/15/2008, -4/+3Jurassic Park... The Reality show!
- DeePsix501, on 06/15/2008, -4/+17DONT DO IT! THEY WILL EAT PEOPLES
- Mysk, on 06/15/2008, -0/+1this strikes me as a good thing, so long as it isn't me.
Dinosaurs: The ultimate in population control!- tshawkins, on 06/15/2008, -0/+1I can see it now, "the 81st airborne raptor division", now thats shock and awe for you. Once the pentagon gets hold of the idea that they could have squads of trained or remotely controlled velociraptors, then you will see the funding for this research really start to pile up. After all why spend all that money building a cyber-soldier when you can grow all the hardware in a vat.
- Mysk, on 06/15/2008, -0/+1this strikes me as a good thing, so long as it isn't me.
- slightlygifted, on 06/15/2008, -3/+14if they could do this, and show that they can reverse evolution.......then wouldn't organized religion be screwed???
- brokencrystal, on 06/15/2008, -5/+4What does this have to do with religion you anti-theist primate derivative?
- slightlygifted, on 06/15/2008, -5/+4cause every christian thats sane agrees that animals can evolve but not into more complex forms (micro evolution). if they show that it already happened with this they'll have no choice but to admit that genesis is wrong which screws jews and christians and mormans. dont know much about the other religions though.
- brokencrystal, on 06/15/2008, -1/+1"if they show that it already happened with this they'll have no choice but to admit that genesis is wrong"
If they show that it already happened... What? I have a confession of a lack of evidence? - Bersy, on 06/15/2008, -1/+3What the ***** does this have to do with proving evolution or "reversing" evolution. They already have access to the DNA, what do you expect bringing them to life will change?
Seriously, I can't believe all the ***** idiots on this site that come out of the woodwork every time something of scientific interest is posted, as if they're constantly sitting by their computers refreshing digg, waiting for the "big moment" that biblical beliefs will be disproven. Get your heads out of your collective asses and learn to think for yourself, this gang mentality only makes you look desperate. - noen, on 06/15/2008, -0/+2"every christian thats sane"
I see what you did there. - edwartica, on 06/15/2008, -0/+2Some Christians fully accept evolution - but say that God was behind it.
- Daz3, on 06/15/2008, -0/+7"Some Christians fully accept evolution - but say that God was behind it."
Would the be the Christians that haven't read Genesis? - Zeusbwr, on 06/15/2008, -1/+2Come on people. how many times are you going to try to compare Faith to Facts in hopes that one will win? Its apples and oranges my friends, get your heads out of your asses. True faith can never be compared to fact, no matter how insane the faith may seem to you.
Its an impossible argument.
- brokencrystal, on 06/15/2008, -1/+1"if they show that it already happened with this they'll have no choice but to admit that genesis is wrong"
- slightlygifted, on 06/15/2008, -5/+4cause every christian thats sane agrees that animals can evolve but not into more complex forms (micro evolution). if they show that it already happened with this they'll have no choice but to admit that genesis is wrong which screws jews and christians and mormans. dont know much about the other religions though.
- 180andback, on 06/15/2008, -2/+29No, stupid. Obviously, God put the genetic code of dinosaurs into chickens to test our faith.
- brokencrystal, on 06/15/2008, -5/+4What does this have to do with religion you anti-theist primate derivative?
- 180andback, on 06/15/2008, -2/+9Looks like paleontologists are out of a job.
- MNorton17, on 06/15/2008, -0/+12Don't you mean extinct?
- 180andback, on 06/15/2008, -0/+5Thank you.
- WesleyD, on 06/15/2008, -0/+3Har Har Har!
- Culyt, on 06/15/2008, -0/+2Someone has to dig up the genetic material. Right now they only have a T-Rex sample (and a mammoth).
I wish they would sequence the T-Rex gnome, that would just show how ***** awesome science is.- 180andback, on 06/15/2008, -0/+1Rawr! I am the T-Rex gnome! I will eat your lawyers and be terrifying when I am not standing in your garden or giving you travel advice!
- MNorton17, on 06/15/2008, -0/+12Don't you mean extinct?
- glowfood, on 06/15/2008, -6/+7Dailymail....sigh.
- IndiShukla, on 06/15/2008, -1/+65SHOOT HER!!!!!!! SHOOOOOOTTTT HERRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- WesleyD, on 06/15/2008, -0/+4Nice... as I read that line I could hear his voice in my head saying it.
- ChinezePanda, on 06/16/2008, -0/+1***** yeah dude.
- WesleyD, on 06/15/2008, -0/+4Nice... as I read that line I could hear his voice in my head saying it.
- skylard, on 06/15/2008, -0/+5Is it me or did I read "make Velociraptor dinosaurs"?
XKCD knew it all along!
We're doomed!!!! - jcolemoser, on 06/15/2008, -12/+7Many scientists believed organic matter from a living thing could not survive more than 100,000 years — let alone 68 million years.
Many scientist also believe in evolution.
could this mean that dinosaurs are actually not 68 million years old and that evolution is false?- 180andback, on 06/15/2008, -2/+8No.
- c0mputar, on 06/15/2008, -1/+6Don't jump to conclusions before you ask the simple question of how it managed to stay preserved.
- EllimistX, on 06/15/2008, -3/+11Not necessarily that evolution is false, but it did get me wondering about the implications of messed up dating techniques.
- jeremymccurdy, on 06/15/2008, -2/+11It just means that science is always changing and that there are no absolutes in it.
- WesleyD, on 06/15/2008, -0/+2Thank you.
- Findeton, on 06/15/2008, -5/+6"Many scientists BELIEVED organic matter from a living thing could not survive more than 100,000 years — let alone 68 million years."
A belief is not science.
"Many scientist also believe in evolution."
No scientist believes in Evolution. Evolution is a scientific and therefore falsifiable/testable theory, it is unnecessary and pointless to believe in it.
"could this mean that dinosaurs are actually not 68 million years old and that evolution is false?"
Short answer:
No.
Long answer:
No, and go get a book before you come back asking more. Ignorance is daring.- jcolemoser, on 06/15/2008, -1/+0I think you missed my point there buddy.
"No scientist believes in Evolution."
you may be wrong there......- Findeton, on 06/15/2008, -0/+2You must have a flat encephalogram. I'm telling you that "believing" and scientists are not related. Read this you moron:
SCIENCE DOES NOT BELIEVE IN ANYTHING, BECAUSE IT IS BASED ON FALSIFIABLE FACTS.
Of course no scientist believes in evolution, just like no scientist believes in gravity: they are observable, testable, verifiable and falsifiable scientific theories, what's the need to "believe" in here?
Man, you must be american. As an european, i must ask you: what the hell did they teach you at school?
- Findeton, on 06/15/2008, -0/+2You must have a flat encephalogram. I'm telling you that "believing" and scientists are not related. Read this you moron:
- jcolemoser, on 06/15/2008, -1/+0I think you missed my point there buddy.
- RobotBuddha, on 06/15/2008, -0/+2It means that science reporters often take quotes out of context, and generally have no understanding of the story. The idea of getting enough intact dna from a dinosaur to actually clone the entire thing is ridiculous. It'd be amazingly cool, but no, genetic material isn't going to last intact enough to do much with in that kind of timeframe.
- desqjockey, on 06/15/2008, -1/+1um, and then we started finding their bones? How are they not organic matter?
- KimonoThief, on 06/15/2008, -0/+2Did you even read the article? The entire ***** process they described was based on the evolution of dinosaurs into birds.
- FearlessFreep, on 06/15/2008, -1/+2Jurassic Park? Sounds more like Carnasour
- KrazyKoala, on 06/15/2008, -0/+2Huzzah for Hans Larsson! He's an excellent prof BTW for any McGill students interested.
- brokencrystal, on 06/15/2008, -15/+7FTA: "Six hours later, there was a knock on the door.
‘Jennifer ran into the room saying, “You’re not going to believe this,”’ recalls Schweitzer.
‘When she picked up a small piece, it stretched and moved all over the place.
'So we knew we had something pretty unusual.’
The magnitude of the discovery was immediately apparent to the Montana University team — the material appeared to be well preserved flesh from a Tyrannosaurus Rex.
Horner says: ‘It’s unimaginable to find soft tissue. It was just assumed that everything had been fossilised.’
More extraordinary yet, was the next find in neighbouring parts of the dinosaur bone.
‘Out popped the blood vessels,’ says Schweitzer.
‘I said, “I don’t believe it, that’s not possible”. It was one of those goose bump moments.’
Horner and his team knew that blood vessels should not exist in fossilised bone.
Many scientists believed organic matter from a living thing could not survive more than 100,000 years — let alone 68 million years."
Are these people's brains kept in jars? I guess the alternate theory in not an option since it would refute their sacred theories. (The theories we are not allowed to question) How many ancient drawings and artwork have we found with pictures of man with dinosaurs? Is it possible their dating is wrong? You call their way of keeping science in a box critical thinking?
Now Digg me down.- 180andback, on 06/15/2008, -3/+8This proves it! Gravity is *****.
- brokencrystal, on 06/15/2008, -2/+2Ha Ha!
- 180andback, on 06/15/2008, -2/+2... Nelson Muntz?
- brokencrystal, on 06/15/2008, -2/+2Ha Ha!
- DimensionalPunk, on 06/15/2008, -3/+5Is it really bliss?
- 180andback, on 06/15/2008, -2/+3You got dugg down? That was artful.
- alvarezg, on 06/15/2008, -3/+6We have found zero pictures of man with dinosaurs (except for the old comic strip Alley Oop).
The alternate "theory" is not a theory because it cannot be tested, it does not make predictions that can be confirmed or refuted by observation.- brokencrystal, on 06/15/2008, -3/+4"We have found zero pictures of man with dinosaurs"
Yea, because cameras were not invented yet. However, we have found many drawings in caves and on rocks. Some show man hunting them, some show man riding them, and some show men in the stomachs of the dinosaurs.- SQLserver, on 06/15/2008, -3/+5Examples?
Stop pulling BS out of your ass; Support your bloody claims. - brokencrystal, on 06/15/2008, -3/+4Here comes the support... Not pulling anything from anywhere... just shocked at how poorly educated the average person is. You believe anything that was force fed to you without question, but never do any research for yourself outside of the bias textbooks.
Some drawings of dinosaurs, some with man.
http://www.genesispark.com/genpark/ancient/graphic ...
http://www.genesispark.com/genpark/ancient/graphic ...
http://www.genesispark.com/genpark/ancient/graphic ...
http://www.genesispark.com/genpark/ancient/graphic ...
http://www.genesispark.com/genpark/ancient/graphic ...
http://www.bible.ca/tracks/peru-tomb-rock-art-man- ...
http://www.bible.ca/tracks/peru-tomb-pottery.jpg
http://www.crossfellowship.org/assets/images/man-r ...
Pottery?
http://www.genesispark.com/genpark/ancient/graphic ...
http://www.genesispark.com/genpark/ancient/graphic ...
http://www.genesispark.com/genpark/ancient/graphic ...
Along with the depictions above are the many footprints shown to have been fossilized in the same time period as dinosaurs.
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/images/burdick1.j ...
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/images/Chas5.jpg
Now, along with all of the depictions of dinosaurs and human footprints, is a human tool that was found insided cretaceous rock from 75 to 100 million years old!!! ALONG with the dating, is the chemical composition of the object itself. The composition of the metal in this hammer CANNOT be consistently replicated today!
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/images/hamrpc.jpg
Other things
http://www.bible.ca/tracks/fossil-finger+finger.jp ...
http://www.bible.ca/tracks/fossil-finger-dimes.jpg
http://www.bible.ca/tracks/fossilized-human-finger ...
http://www.bible.ca/tracks/fossilized-hammer.htm
http://www.bible.ca/tracks/malachite-man.htm - KimonoThief, on 06/15/2008, -2/+4Forgive my keen eye, brokencrystal, but I couldn't help noticing that you linked to only "bible.ca", "biblebelievers.org", "crossfellowship.org", and "genesispark.com".
Reputable and scientific sources, to be sure, but could I bother you for a wikipedia link? - dawn4598, on 06/15/2008, -1/+3"Reputable and scientific sources, to be sure, but could I bother you for a wikipedia link?"
Wikipedia? LOL Shall I make a wikipedia page and add these graphics, then point you toward the link? - Ramble, on 06/15/2008, -2/+2I guess dragons exist too because look at all the chinese artwork with dragons on it.
- brokencrystal, on 06/16/2008, -1/+2"I guess dragons exist too because look at all the chinese artwork with dragons on it."
And you are comparing the pictures of the dragons to what fossils when saying they got it right?
- SQLserver, on 06/15/2008, -3/+5Examples?
- brokencrystal, on 06/15/2008, -3/+3"The alternate "theory" is not a theory because it cannot be tested, it does not make predictions that can be confirmed or refuted by observation."
Oh, you mean like the unobservable and untestable "theory" of macro-evolution. I get it now. Thanks for the lesson on scientific theory. That clears some things up.- SQLserver, on 06/15/2008, -2/+3Macro Evolution is a FACT.
Macro Evolution simply states that it is possible for new species to form/change.
And that happens all the time.
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-speciation.htm ...
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/speciation.html - Mercedes383, on 06/15/2008, -2/+1Evolution is supported by millions of fossils (not exaggerated). None of them provide falsifying evidence against evolution. As was famously said, to disprove evolution all you would need to do was find chickens in the Cambrian. Macro evolution is observable and is constantly updated. Your arguments are similar to the 'Missing Link' argument. There is no famous Missing Link that is desperately needed to prove evolution. Transitory fossils are quite well documented in the fossil record. I'm not making these points to try to prove or disprove God, evolution does no such thing. It just shows part of the rich history this planet has had.
- brokencrystal, on 06/15/2008, -3/+3"Macro Evolution is a FACT.
Macro Evolution simply states that it is possible for new species to form/change.
And that happens all the time."
1. You are pushing links from a bias anti-theist website disguised as a non-bias scientific site.
http://www.discovery.org/articleFiles/PDFs/surviva ...
2. It doesn't happen all the time. If it takes millions/billions of years to happen... how is it observable?
http://www.discovery.org/scripts/viewDB/filesDB-do ...
"Evolution is supported by millions of fossils (not exaggerated). None of them provide falsifying evidence against evolution. "
Please explain the Cambrian explosion to me? (Please, no quotes or links from talkorigins)
http://www.discovery.org/scripts/viewDB/filesDB-do ...
http://www.dissentfromdarwin.org/ - Ramble, on 06/15/2008, -2/+21. You're doing the same thing.
2. Err, it does happen rather a lot actually. What about nylon eating bacteria? We've seen actual speciation happen, I know Evening Primrose was observed in a lab and speciation occured. You're either ignorant or lying.
3. Very well, there are a number of theories but I believe the most popular is the rapidly increasing concentration of atmospheric oxygen that allowed more advanced and more powerful metabolisms to evolve and hence more complex organisms.
Now, where's your alternative theory? - brokencrystal, on 06/16/2008, -1/+3"What about nylon eating bacteria?"
At what point do the nylon eating bacteria grow legs, arms, or lungs and pass them to their offspring? - Ramble, on 06/16/2008, -0/+2They don't at a single point, it takes time and a lot of mutations.
Your ignorance astounds me.
You haven't refuted my points yet however.
- SQLserver, on 06/15/2008, -2/+3Macro Evolution is a FACT.
- brokencrystal, on 06/15/2008, -3/+4"We have found zero pictures of man with dinosaurs"
- SQLserver, on 06/15/2008, -3/+6Except...
Schweitzer and her collegues unanimously agree that the discovery IN NO WAY points towards a young earth, even though she describes herself as a devout Christan...
Why?
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CC/CC371.html
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CC/CC371_1.html
"How many ancient drawings and artwork have we found with pictures of man with dinosaurs?"
Almost none.
Besides a few descript and vague drawings here and there, none.
The 'examples' are so absurdly ridiculous it is convincing that some are jokes.
Also, it is important to remember that:
--Folklore does not require a physical basis. Leprechauns, the Loch Ness Monster, djinni, the tooth fairy, and other creatures have long survived in folklore without any bodies to examine.
--# Dinosaurs need not be living to inspire myth and legend. In China, fossil bones (of all kinds of creatures, not just dinosaurs) have long been called dragon bones. Fossils of Protoceratops inspired legends of griffins (Mayor 2000). In Lakota myth, dinosaur fossils in the Badlands of South Dakota are attributed to river monsters (Erdoes and Ortiz 1984, 220-222). The Pawnee attribute fossils to a former race of giants (Grinnell 1961, 355-356).
Anyway, thanks for providing a perfect example of classic Creationism: Vague claims, half-true, and complete out fallacies.
Cheers.- brokencrystal, on 06/15/2008, -3/+2Why do you make me do this?
I'm shocked at how poorly educated (or just lazy) the average person is. You believe anything that was force fed to you without question, but never do any research for yourself outside of the bias textbooks.
Some drawings of dinosaurs, some with man.
http://www.genesispark.com/genpark/ancient/graphic ...
http://www.genesispark.com/genpark/ancient/graphic ...
http://www.genesispark.com/genpark/ancient/graphic ...
http://www.genesispark.com/genpark/ancient/graphic ...
http://www.genesispark.com/genpark/ancient/graphic ...
http://www.bible.ca/tracks/peru-tomb-rock-art-man- ...
http://www.bible.ca/tracks/peru-tomb-pottery.jpg
http://www.crossfellowship.org/assets/images/man-r ...
Pottery?
http://www.genesispark.com/genpark/ancient/graphic ...
http://www.genesispark.com/genpark/ancient/graphic ...
http://www.genesispark.com/genpark/ancient/graphic ...
Along with the depictions above are the many footprints shown to have been fossilized in the same time period as dinosaurs.
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/images/burdick1.j ...
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/images/Chas5.jpg
Now, along with all of the depictions of dinosaurs and human footprints, is a human tool that was found insided cretaceous rock from 75 to 100 million years old!!! ALONG with the dating, is the chemical composition of the object itself. The composition of the metal in this hammer CANNOT be consistently replicated today!
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/images/hamrpc.jpg
Other things.
http://www.bible.ca/tracks/fossil-finger+finger.jp ...
http://www.bible.ca/tracks/fossil-finger-dimes.jpg
http://www.bible.ca/tracks/fossilized-human-finger ...
http://www.bible.ca/tracks/fossilized-hammer.htm
http://www.bible.ca/tracks/malachite-man.htm- MechaFalcon, on 06/15/2008, -2/+5You speak of bias and proceed to link to evidence at sites called genesispark.com, bible.ca and biblebelievers.org? For shame.
- brokencrystal, on 06/15/2008, -4/+2The sites I posted links to do not hide behind science and pretend to be unbiased. Their intentions are clear. Besides, I found them in a Google search that took less than 15 minutes to accomplish. These people who claim these sort of drawings do not exist are so lazy, they can't take 15 minutes to do a search. I did not have all this ready for such an argument as the anti-theists do with their talkorigins site. Talkorigins is the apologetics site for the anti-theist. It is full of canned, prepackaged rebuttals for the anti-theist to combat the theist.
- MechaFalcon, on 06/15/2008, -2/+4So they are flat out biased then, and therefore invalid. Just because something conflicts with your beliefs does not mean it is "hiding behind science" and "pretending to be unbiased."
Not to mention that a lot of those pictures can easily be explained by the idea of mythology and folklore. Take greek mythology, for example. Are you going to tell me that a woman whose hair was made out of snakes who could turn people to stone by looking them in the eyes existed? Plenty of art from the time period depicted things just like that but I don't see anyone rushing to defend their validity or existence. - dawn4598, on 06/15/2008, -1/+2"Not to mention that a lot of those pictures can easily be explained by the idea of mythology and folklore."
Well, that is one idea. Now if only it can be tested, observed, refuted, and repeated...
Funny how they got the shape and features of the dinosaurs right, isn't it?
Maybe you can explain your theory on the fossilized hammer in the picture above? - SQLserver, on 06/15/2008, -2/+3I find it hysterical that you completely ignored the argument.
- MechaFalcon, on 06/15/2008, -2/+4Yes, it just needs to be tested, observed, refuted, and repeated. I am not a scientist, nor will I claim to be one, but that idea can be repeated simply by looking at the pictures in the archive posted. There are drawings of dragons. Fire-breathing winged dragons of legends, something whose existence is completely lacking scientific evidence.
The only shapes I saw that resembled any modern idea of dinosaurs were the Stegosaurus on the Buddhist temple (that one I cannot particularly explain), and the Plesiosaur, whose likeness has been commonly attributed to that of the Loch Ness Monster. Everything else looks like an oversized lizard (which were not uncommon), a horse, a bird, or something conjured up by the imagination (again, dragons and the few sea serpents depicted).
Not to mention the validity of many of these pieces can be called into question due to the fact that they could easily have been created by the people who run the website. They were not photographed in a museum or anything of the sort, but mostly on white backgrounds in an indiscernible location. Then there are the cave drawings showing people and "dinosaurs" which are close to not being visible were it not for the exaggerated white outlines added later. Of course, the site also has drawings and paintings uploaded. Drawings and paintings made with supplies not invented until recent years, clear artistic portrayals of what people thought things might look like based on fossil records. Let's not forget the mythological paintings as well.
Not being a paleontologist or an anthropologist, I cannot comment on the hammer discovery as I do not know what the earliest recorded hominid tool usage is. I can, however, suggest that it might have been used by chimps who had developed the capacity for tool usage. - dawn4598, on 06/16/2008, -0/+1"I find it hysterical that you completely ignored the argument."
Probably as hysterical as I find it that nobody addressed the Cambrian Explosion question that was presented above, yet fully ignored... - dawn4598, on 06/16/2008, -0/+1"Not being a paleontologist or an anthropologist, I cannot comment on the hammer discovery as I do not know what the earliest recorded hominid tool usage is. I can, however, suggest that it might have been used by chimps who had developed the capacity for tool usage."
Did you read about the dating of the hammer and the rock it was found in, look at the design and complexity or composition of the metal that was used? Unless chimps were extremely advanced and have gotten much dumber and less developed (the opposite of survival of the fittest) then I doubt it was a tool designed by chimps. Also, even according to old earth believers, man has not been around very long... Just something to think about. I believe in following the evidence wherever it may lead, even if the outcome is not in your favor...
Science does not belong in a box. Many people do not allow certain theories because they challenge other theories that are held sacred. This is not true science. Many anti-theists do this. It is wrong. - MechaFalcon, on 06/16/2008, -0/+2Yes, I did, in brokencrystal's post. I couldn't find any article about the hammer on the site the picture was hosted on (biblebelievers.org.au), so I decided to do a little further research this time, and after a quick google search I found these:
http://wiki.cotch.net/index.php/A_petrified_hammer ...
http://paleo.cc/paluxy/hammer.htm
Both suggest that the hammer was dropped into a hole or crevice and filled with sediment later on. The second article suggests that it was most likely a 19th century miner's tool. Furthermore, the current holder of the hammer, Carl Baugh, has yet to have the hammer dated, invalidating the entire argument.
I agree, science doesn't belong in a box. However, people don't allow certain theories because, according to scientific evidence and practices, these theories make no logical sense. When there is enough evidence discovered to balance out the veritable truckload of evidence supporting current theories, the opposing theories may get some credibility and attention paid to them.
As for the Cambrian Explosion... I am not sure exactly what argument you or brokencrystal are getting at other than there was a large, well, explosion of animal life. - OaklandNative, on 06/16/2008, -0/+1I've been having an ongoing similar discussion with some people here:
http://digg.com/general_sciences/Science_Contradic ...
It would be great if you would join.
- brokencrystal, on 06/15/2008, -3/+2Why do you make me do this?
- 180andback, on 06/15/2008, -3/+8This proves it! Gravity is *****.
- DetpackJump, on 06/15/2008, -4/+7Jurassic park comes true? Not in our lifetime. Did anyone notice this key sentence from the article? ... "Larsson now believes that in a hundred years or so, geneticists could retro-engineer animals that appear identical to Mesozoic dinosaurs."
- Thousand, on 06/15/2008, -1/+5Larsson is probably wrong.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerating_change#K ... - sumgi, on 06/15/2008, -0/+3Wasn't it Wilbur Wright that said "Not within a thousand years would man ever fly!" just a year before their first flight?
- Thousand, on 06/15/2008, -1/+5Larsson is probably wrong.
- bigern75, on 06/15/2008, -8/+3Discovery Channel already had a special about this a couple months ago.
This is old news. - burjzyntski, on 06/15/2008, -4/+15Science fiction is science fact that hasn't happened yet.
- bipolarruledout, on 06/15/2008, -3/+0Also known as junk science.
- tshawkins, on 06/15/2008, -0/+1Just like satellites, cell phones, space craft, etc....
- j3ff86, on 06/15/2008, -0/+2Science is whatever we want it to be!
-Dr. Leo Spaćeman
- bipolarruledout, on 06/15/2008, -3/+0Also known as junk science.
- pcnerd37, on 06/15/2008, -9/+2Burried as inaccurate. The show aired months ago and is not scheduled to air again that I can find.
- JoeCool51, on 06/15/2008, -0/+6June 21st, 6PM
source: http://dsc.discovery.com/tv-schedules/special.html ...- MetalGear7, on 06/15/2008, -0/+2Burn
- JoeCool51, on 06/15/2008, -0/+6June 21st, 6PM
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