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cgi.ebay.com — Waiting in line: 40 hours Extra controller and games: 180$ 2 year extended warrant: 200$ PS3 new in box: 599$ Starting Bid: 0.99$ Not realizing you set "buy-it-now" instead of "starting bid" PRICELESS!
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- cquinnd, on 10/12/2007, -1/+198Ouch. I hope he gets positive feedback for that sale.
- calebhawk, on 10/12/2007, -10/+452Seller was easy to deal with and a complete dumbass!!!! AAAA+++
- andyrobo60, on 10/12/2007, -13/+97This is almost as good as the person who payed £350 in the UK last year for an EMPTY 360 box.
- wvdavis, on 10/12/2007, -2/+92I don't know... I foresee some negative feedback in his future. I doubt he'll honor that price.
- chris9902, on 10/12/2007, -2/+95Seller needs a hug. A+++
- felchdonkey, on 10/12/2007, -2/+322I expect he'll just email the winner something like:
"I'm so sorry, I took your PS3 bundle down to UPS to ship it this morning - I stopped off at Starbucks on the way, and when I came out to my car, it was STOLEN. I'm so bummed. Don't worry, though, I will refund your money 100%." - chris9902, on 10/12/2007, -40/+5ahh ok I see now.
notice there is no information on the shipping price. - Llanowar, on 10/12/2007, -3/+111I would simply not sell it for that price, anyone can make a mistake.
Though he might get some bad feedback, better than losing 600+ bucks - anchorman, on 10/12/2007, -20/+8@calebhawk
I believe that was the funniest comment I have ever read on digg. - whappo, on 10/12/2007, -13/+2Only 26 people have given him feedback...
- mrstretchie, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11@felchdonkey
That's what you or I might do. But would you be in his situation in the first place? - fmaxwell, on 10/12/2007, -24/+3bury. posted in wrong place. Sorry.
- diktator279, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4@fmaxwell
You bring being anally retentive to a new level. You must work for the Department of Motor Vehicles. - dggeek, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@chris9902
The description says in big red letters "Free shipping from Boston."
- Rob86TA, on 10/12/2007, -354/+18me481, you bastard! I sent you this, now you go and take credit before I can post it? Further proof I should stick to slashdot!
- Lexrst, on 10/12/2007, -5/+258Further proof you should post it to Digg before sending it to others...
- lemur33, on 10/12/2007, -8/+207who really cares who gets credit ? do you win a free frisbee when you collect 5000 awesome points ?
it really can be annoying how digg is sometimes about getting 'MY' story on the front page and being proud of that rather than just sharing some stuff. - Draracle, on 10/12/2007, -7/+55awww muffin
- Arkitan, on 10/12/2007, -16/+75This is why digg shouldn't show who submitted a story, just who dugg it.
- kevyn, on 10/12/2007, -11/+47take your stupid arguments to slashdot with you
- shil01, on 10/12/2007, -35/+11you suck at digg.
- chmod, on 10/12/2007, -9/+32Goodbye. We won't miss you.
- fmaxwell, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13I agree. Good riddance.
- ElectricGrandpa, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Why the hell wouldn't you just POST IT first instead of telling the info to some random person, if it means that much to you...
- chewy5000, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3You want a medal?
- diktator279, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4I'm taking my ball and going home
- jennamalia, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Rob86TA, the slashdot crowd wouldn't be amused by your comment, either.
- ragnorok999, on 10/12/2007, -14/+54That poor, poor person.. How much would that suck? He waited in line for a couple of days to get it and now he loses $599 because of a simple mistake. I feel it for ya bud.
- bits&bytes, on 10/12/2007, -2/+142anyone would rather loose an ebay account than give 600$ + away, so sorry to burst your bubble but there is no way he will go through with it
- Elohir, on 10/12/2007, -11/+152He waited in line for days.......to sell it on ebay.
Cry me a river, people like this are the REASON kids are having to camp outside stores just to get a damned games console. - Eastlygod, on 10/12/2007, -9/+23@Elohir
As you can see on the pictures, he has two. He waited in line for so long to get one for himself, and he thought he'd make a tidy profit on the other... obviously not! - ozziek, on 10/12/2007, -19/+28Poor person? Serves him right I say. He's tyring to milk hard earny money out of the rest of us by immediately putting it up just like these other dumb asses who are putting PS3s on for $2,000 plus.
He tried to cash in with an auction, had every opp to preview it before it went up and made a stupid mistake.
Lesson learnt - if you're a dumb ass don't waste your time buying a PS3 and trying to make some money on ebay! - SigmaX, on 10/12/2007, -14/+73Don't blame him for trying to make money off the PS3. Blame the dumb asses that are actually buying these things for $2000
- WordBaron, on 10/12/2007, -52/+5ozziet - "Lesson learnt"
Lesson learnt indeed. Now for your little lesson. (1. Download latest version of Firefox 2. Graciously use spell-check 3. Let go of the animosity towards your elementary teachers for their woeful instruction.) - noGoodNamesLeft, on 10/12/2007, -14/+20"Cry me a river, people like this are the REASON kids are having to camp outside stores just to get a damned games console."
Cry *me* a river if you want to follow that line.
You said yourself that it's just a "damned games console". No-one's forcing those kids to camp out to get one.
There isn't much stuff available yet; neither Blu-Ray discs nor games. *Especially* games... they'll take a few months to arrive in quantity. So the only thing they're really being "deprived" of is the chance to be an "OMG I got a PS3!!!!!!!!" early adopter.
They're the ones playing along with the hype and exacerbating the shortage if you want to view it that way. Who cares? It's not a bloody pacemaker for their seriously-ill younger sister, is it? It's a "damned games console".
What makes their desire to own one any more "pure" or valid than someone else's desire to make a lot of money off some impatient early-adopters anyway? - bloobloo, on 10/12/2007, -3/+26@Wordbaron - learnt (v.) A past tense and a past participle of learn.
- WordBaron, on 10/12/2007, -20/+2@bloobloo
Sure, sure, make the claim that ozziek is British. (Just couldn't help myself with the original correction. :) ) - sphinx13, on 10/12/2007, -9/+5If you look at the pictures you can see he actually has 4 PS3s
- ylph, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15I don't think it is the fault of the people who sell these on eBay - this is a free market society and people are stepping in to profit from the supply/demand imbalance, as they should.
The reason there is an imbalance in the first place is because the manufacturers want a launch day sell-out and publicity from people lining up all night for their latest product. This creates hype that can, if managed properly, turn into more sales in the long run.
This system used to work well in the past when there was no viable secondary market to trade these products in - mostly end customers would line up to buy the products then, and act as free marketing agents by hyping them up more amongst their social network if they managed to score one at launch.
Now there is eBay which despite all its faults does provide an efficient way to instantly connect buyers and sellers from all around the world and facilitate real market driven price discovery. I am not sure that traditional marketing has fully understood all the implications of this new reality yet. By selling the PS3's in the primary market way below what the supply/demand would price them at, Sony is essentially giving up some 200 million dollars of revenue to fuel the hype, but is now also incurring some ill-will among the actual end-users who can't really compete with the eBay scalpers anymore and end up having to buy the product at the actual market price on eBay, which Sony could have sold it at in the first place.
But this might actually prove to be a winner for manufacturers in the end, since the ill-will tends to be misdirected at the eBay scalpers rather than the manufacturers themselves, and the visions of eBay profits actually ends up creating even more demand and hype at launch, and even more free marketing agents for the product in the form of hopeful eBay entrepreneurs...
So to sum up, we are all just mindless pawns in the hands of multinational corporations to do with as they please - so just go ahead and consume some more Happy Products :)
I am off to play a few rounds of M.U.L.E on my Atari 800, PS3 be damned... - fmaxwell, on 10/12/2007, -10/+3ylph wrote:
"I don't think it is the fault of the people who sell these on eBay - this is a free market society and people are stepping in to profit from the supply/demand imbalance, as they should."
No, they should not try to profit for doing nothing of value. People in a society are supposed to add value, not just suck away money without providing any goods or services. There's something wrong when someone produces nothing of value and just drives prices up for everyone else.
This is the thing that really pisses me off about the 'free-market-is-God' crowd. Making it impossible for parents to afford a toy for a child at Christmas is just despicable. Why the f*ck should should some child be disappointed on Christmas morning just because a bunch of jerks bought up all of the units and put them on ebay at prices that only wealthy parents could afford? If that's your idea of what people "should" do, you need to spend less time philosophizing about economics and spend some more time learning about ethics. - PSUViking, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Workers of the World Unite!!
- mattmaison, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1They are distributors for a product that is in demand, just like pharmacies and grocery stores. Prices in a free market are ultimately set by buyers, not by sellers.
- BladeOfAnduril, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Who's the bigger dumbass, the guy that posts the PS3 on ebay for $2000, or the moron that bids on it for that much or more?
- ylph, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@fmaxwell
Is it unethical to sell a house for more than you paid for it ? What value is the seller adding that would justify the higher price ?
The problem that the free market solves is determining what the "value" of something is - that depends on how much of it is available and how much people want it. Sony is deliberately selling a product at a price which is significantly below it's market value, they are the ones you should be mad at for giving you false hope of being able to buy one at that price.
And btw, the PS3 is worth more than Sony sells it for precisely because there are not enough of them available for every child that wants one for Christmas. So no matter who ends up with them in the end, some children somewhere are going to be disappointed. By your logic, the PS3 should be given away for free, so that every poor child in the world can have one for Christmas, whether their parents can afford it or not ($600 for a toy is not exactly cheap)
And really, if you are that concerned with the children, shouldn't you be spending the money on buying some medicine and food for the starving orphans in Africa instead ? Seems a little decadent complaining that your spoiled kids can't get their $600 toy for Christmas, when that same money could have fed an entire village of people for a year in the third world. - carapi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1NoGoodGamesleft...
Just becuase YOU don't like the current rop of PS3 games doesn't mean that everybody does.
Remember, your opinions are absolutely WORTHLESS to the other 6 billion+ people in the world. And they always will be. - fmaxwell, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@ylph
"Is it unethical to sell a house for more than you paid for it ? What value is the seller adding that would justify the higher price ?"
In many cases, it's simply inflation. You could buy a decent car in the 1960's for $3K. But what was your yearly income?
"Sony is deliberately selling a product at a price which is significantly below it's market value, they are the ones you should be mad at for giving you false hope of being able to buy one at that price."
I have no interest in owning one, much less a "hope" that I can buy one.
"And btw, the PS3 is worth more than Sony sells it for precisely because there are not enough of them available for every child that wants one for Christmas. So no matter who ends up with them in the end, some children somewhere are going to be disappointed."
So you feel that it's better that the rich kids not be disappointed since that's who this kind of predatory pricing favors.
"By your logic, the PS3 should be given away for free, so that every poor child in the world can have one for Christmas, whether their parents can afford it or not ($600 for a toy is not exactly cheap)"
No, by my logic, people who don't want to own one (or give it as a gift) should stay away from them and not try to take advantage of a shortage. They should use the old-fashioned notion of working to earn money -- adding something of value to society.
"And really, if you are that concerned with the children, shouldn't you be spending the money on buying some medicine and food for the starving orphans in Africa instead ?"
I've donated far more than the value of a PS3 to charity this year alone.
"Seems a little decadent complaining that your spoiled kids can't get their $600 toy for Christmas, when that same money could have fed an entire village of people for a year in the third world."
Nice try at a personal insult, but I don't have kids, don't like being around kids, don't want to have kids, and have no desire to give a PS3 as a gift or to own one for myself. But I have no desire to make some other kid unhappy or to be a profiteer.
You probably think that it's fine for someone to buy up all of the plywood in an area when there's a hurricane coming and then turn around and sell it for ten times the purchase price. Fortunately, there are decent people who think like me that have passed laws in answer to the kind of amoral greed that you admire and that's why we lock people up for that. Look up "profiteer" in the dictionary and see if it sounds like a flattering term.
- zeabrid, on 10/12/2007, -5/+39^^
He lost way more then $599- calebhawk, on 10/12/2007, -7/+114Ya, he lost his soul when he bought the ps3
- zaid, on 10/12/2007, -2/+23the PS3's 2 year warranty is $200?? what the eff?
- Antaeus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2yeah it is kind a weird, the PS3 already comes with a 1 year warranty so he is actually paying a lot for that deal.
- rolfeman02, on 10/12/2007, -5/+815 bucks says he won't go through with the auction
- wush, on 10/12/2007, -55/+29O RLY?
- Pests, on 10/12/2007, -52/+30YA RLY
- GuitaristTom, on 10/12/2007, -49/+9LAWLZ!
- mikeazorin, on 10/12/2007, -38/+9NO WAI
- vrogy, on 10/12/2007, -35/+11YA WAI
- loquedesea, on 10/12/2007, -23/+6yahweh...??
- Drumrboy, on 10/12/2007, -14/+2SRSLY!!!!!11
- fyre2012, on 10/12/2007, -13/+2YHWH?
- fmaxwell, on 10/12/2007, -9/+4And when he does not, the buyer could take him to small claims court and sue asking for "specific performance."
ebay is not some kind of online role-playing game. There are real-world consequences when you reneg on a legal, binding contract.
I just hope the buyer gets proof that he provided the money in a timely manner so that he can sue in court. I'd recommend that he send the money as a cashier's check, include a notarized letter, have the notary send the payment through FedEx and get a signature. That should let the seller know that he's got a legal obligation. - Jak231, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8lol
who hath buried down the name of God? - fatdog789, on 10/12/2007, -2/+19*cough*
"Specific performance" is a viable remedy ONLY for unique goods or real estate. As there are purportedly 400,000 other units, the PS3 is clearly not a unique good. Obviously, it is not real estate.
Hence, the buyer's only recourse is restitution, for unjustly enriching the seller $.99.
Furthermore, the $0.99 is clearly a mistake because it is an offer too good to be true, given that the price is 1/600 the RETAIL price and 1/1000 the market price. Plus, because the buyer has not relied on this "deal" and purchased other goods (such as controllers, games, etc), he has no basis for recovery under promissory estoppel.
Let's not even get into expectancy damages, because if he were to argue that he expected to make $600+ by reselling the console he just bought, he would only reinforce the seller's claim that the $.99 price was a mistake.
IOW, there was no offer to be accepted by the Buy It Now, so there was no contract. Without the contract, there is no legal obligation. Capiche?
Any law student who paid attention in contracts knows this. - fmaxwell, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1fatdog789:
"Specific performance" is a viable remedy ONLY for unique goods or real estate. As there are purportedly 400,000 other units, the PS3 is clearly not a unique good. Obviously, it is not real estate."
Untrue. Article 2 of the Uniform Commercial Code allows a court to order specific performance where "the goods are unique or in other proper circumstances," leaving case law to establish what other circumstances are proper.
"Plus, because the buyer has not relied on this "deal" and purchased other goods (such as controllers, games, etc), he has no basis for recovery under promissory estoppel."
It sounds like you have specific knowledge of this buyer and his circumstances. I don't know what he may have bought in the intervening time, who he may have promised the PS3 to as a gift, etc.
"Any law student who paid attention in contracts knows this."
Perhaps you should have paid more attention.
- wisedude, on 10/12/2007, -2/+100How hard is it to realize that THEY'RE NOT FORCED TO SHIP THE DAMN ITEM, if it goes for that little they'll gladly take a negative feedback, better than losing 800 bucks
- jenoosia, on 10/12/2007, -3/+35Still is funny, though.
- johnholmes, on 10/12/2007, -10/+38Actually your bid is a legally binding contract (http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/unpaid-item.html) and you are legally compelled to go through with the transaction in most jurisdictions. If the buyer wanted to, he could pursue the matter in court to get you to provide the item for the agreed price or seek damages in place. Not likely that it would be worth the hassle, but people should realize that they are liable.
- Flankk, on 10/12/2007, -1/+48Actually, the eBay TOS states bids and auctions are made void if an obvious "typographical error" is made, such as appending four zeros to a bid or selling a PS3 for a dollar.
If the buyer took you to court, you'd only be liable to refund the winning bid. Any judge will throw out a case asking for monies on an item you don't even own. What punitive damage is the buyer going to sue for? He's only at a loss of a dollar and that's all a judge would award. - colklink, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16In contract litigation there are no punitive damages anyway. Breach of a contract is not punishable (in comparison to a tort where punitive damages are used to admonish the conduct). Basically, the court seeks to make the parties whole and put them back into the position they were in before the contract was made. While you may sue for specific performance of a contract (which would require the parties to carry out the terms of the contract), this is not favored by courts generally and is only allowed in certain circumstances.
In fact, there is such a thing as "efficient breach" which is usually used by corporations to get out of contracts if they see that their costs to make the other party whole will be outweighed by the benefits of breaching the contract (meaning they will make more money if they breach than if they perform). Since there are no punitive damages, this is usually easily calculated. - fatdog789, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Almost correct.
Contract remedy seeks to place parties in the position they would have been, had the contract been fully performed. IOW, after the contract. Torts seeks to restore parties to the position they were in prior to the incident.
However, as you noted, the $.99 is clearly a typographical error, hence, there never was an offer (or resultant contract) to begin with, so the remedy is to restore the buyer to the place he was prior to entering upon the contract (either by restoring his reliance costs or providing restitution for what he paid).
The buyer could try torecover for reliance if he purchased any games or equipment, but then he could only recover for the price of the games or equipment. HOWEVER, this is not likely, as the buyer could not have reasonably relied upon the offer of a $.99 PS3.
At best, the buyer could recover $.99 for unjustly enriching the seller. I'm assuming that he's already received his refund by now.
- slimnickyy, on 10/12/2007, -5/+96Umm, this was "set up" by two buddies so they could post it on digg.
- JalenJade, on 10/12/2007, -9/+21Probably true but even if its not, there's no shipping price disclosed so the seller could charge whatever for shipping anyway.
- andyrobo60, on 10/12/2007, -1/+32it says "Free Shipping from Boston" so i take it the shipping is free.
- jdimstrbean, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15It clearly states Free Shipping in the auction. So, if the seller actually went through with the sale, not only would he lose the 599, he'd have to pay costs of shipping the thing.
- imcr, on 10/12/2007, -3/+33I believe this is fake, the buyer has a rating of zero.
- djlosch, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6it might not be faked for digg. they could have agreed on a diff price and just did 99 cents to cut ebay fees. i don't know why they'd want to bc ebay would only protect them up to 99 cents, but i could see plenty of morons wanting to do that.
- gost3, on 10/12/2007, -1/+62It was listed at
Starting time: Nov-20-06 20:24:32 PST
and the guy bought it at
Ended: Nov-21-06 02:29:43 PST
so within them 5 hours anyone could have bought it, so I doubt it's two buddies or they had a very risky 5 hour gap. - smojo12, on 10/12/2007, -16/+1I agree with slim. The buyer is in no way getting it for .99 cents. Theres only 2 reasons that it went for .99 cents.Either the buyer and seller worked some sort of deal out to pay for the item outside of ebay so the seller doesn't get ebay fees or these are 2 buddies or even the same person that just wanted to show the ps3 going for so little and people to talk about it.
- me481, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0No this was not a setup, at least not setup by me....just found it and posted it.
- andyclymer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I agree, look: the exact same auction from another seller from the same city:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320052264879
- Starforge, on 10/12/2007, -31/+11It should be the responsibility of the seller to check their auction. I think this seller should be obligated to ship the item and that price. Sure it sucks they made a mistake, but if a buyer is responsible to pay, so should the seller to ship.
- TonySki, on 10/12/2007, -8/+2the seller should probalby be generous with the shipping too, cause there's nowhere you could of gotten all of that under 200 bucks.
besides it "Falling" off of a back of a truck. - onikage, on 10/12/2007, -0/+32@Starforge
Wait until you make an honest mistake and then see what you think. - r3zonance, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11"It should be the responsibility of the seller to check their auction. I think this seller should be obligated to ship the item and that price. Sure it sucks they made a mistake, but if a buyer is responsible to pay, so should the seller to ship."
Hmmm, in the same way the stores DON'T have to sell a mispriced item if it was obviously a mistake, or they will loose quite heavily on it. - bigtomrodney, on 10/12/2007, -9/+3In most European states you are obliged to sell at the lower price.
- angryundead, on 10/12/2007, -5/+1"Hmmm, in the same way the stores DON'T have to sell a mispriced item if it was obviously a mistake, or they will loose quite heavily on it."
As a matter of fact, in all my experience, unless they think you changed the price they end up selling it to you if you push them. Of course they'll correct the mistake if they can, but if you lean on them a little, and keep saying "thats what the tag says" they'll sell it to you. - xenixninja, on 10/12/2007, -8/+3@ bigtomrodney
European states? When did we get states here in Europe, no one informed me about that, and I live here. Get your facts straight.
And it differs from country to country. In Sweden, by law, you agree on the correct price at the cash register right before you pay. So if something is priced €4 in the shop, but when the clerk beeps it and his register says €8, you have to pay €8, again by law. Of course, it depends on how much an ass you are about it and how much the clerk likes you, but you can't demand to pay €4.
Again, get your facts right. - klparrot, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Rules about having to sell at a lower price don't generally apply if the lower price is so ridiculously far outside the realm of anything reasonable. The rules are meant to protect against luring a customer with a low price and then sticking them with something higher once they're there. If the price is ridiculously low (like 99¢ for a PS3) then the customer should know damn well it's not what the seller intended, and while the seller might honor it, they would not be obliged to.
- carapitcho, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4@ xenixninja
He said in MOST European States (alright, countries).
In France, you pay the lowest price. Let's hear about the 23 others. - profOblivion, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6@xenixninja
"European states? When did we get states here in Europe, no one informed me about that, and I live here. Get your facts straight."
... get YOUR facts straight. You got states when you got countries. Google "define:state":
"A politically organized body of people under a single government." - Princeton.
"A government that exercises sovreignty." - North Park University.
"organized political community occupying a definite territory, having an organized government, and possessing internal and external sovereignty." - Wikipedia.
And yes, provinces can also be referred to as "states."
[/flame] - fmaxwell, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1onikage
"Wait until you make an honest mistake and then see what you think."
You're really stretching the meaning of the word "honest" here. We're talking about a profiteer (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/profiteer), not a decent guy just trying to sell something he owns at a fair price. - xenixninja, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Okey, my bad on the state thing. Can't be best in everything. ;)
@ carapitcho
23 countries in Europe? Want me to give you a map of Europe for xmas? I know there are 25 members in the EU, but there are far more countries in the continent called Europe alone. - killerofkiller, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1USA 2.0
- bigtomrodney, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@xenixninja
"European states? When did we get states here in Europe, no one informed me about that, and I live here. Get your facts straight.........So if something is priced €4 in the shop, but when the clerk beeps it and his register says €8, you have to pay €8, again by law. Of course, it depends on how much an ass you are about it and how much the clerk likes you, but you can't demand to pay €4......."
You were wrong on both counts. I am a European, living in Europe. Check the details of the European Union, it is "Member States" not member countries, as not all members are countries. Being self ruling is not the definition of a country. There are also Principalities, in my case Republic of Ireland is considered a state rather than a Country as Northern Ireland is seperate.
For your information - If something is labelled at the lower price you pay the lower price and THAT is the law. You are fully entitled to this type of protection under European regulations to prevent misinformation. This falls under the various Sales Description Acts handed down from central EU legislation. In fact this one goes right back to EEC days.
So there's your asshat, asshat.
- TonySki, on 10/12/2007, -8/+2the seller should probalby be generous with the shipping too, cause there's nowhere you could of gotten all of that under 200 bucks.
- f00xx0riz3r, on 10/12/2007, -7/+39Auuh.. lame. In all aspects. Buddy-digging, lame. Ebay, lame. PS3, lame.
- TyRaNNOus, on 10/12/2007, -6/+3What a dumbass for sure. I would feel bad but that's what you get when you rush due to greed. I wish i saw this first I would have bought it.
- Osjpr, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8All he has to do is not abide by the conditions of sale and sell it on the street.
- dustymuffin, on 10/12/2007, -6/+3Poor guy - from his feedback it looks like it was his first sale on ebay. I would hope the buyer (zero feedback - real?) would forgive the obvious error.
- thearrow, on 10/12/2007, -13/+3Seller is a dumbass. Hopefully he honors the ebay way and sells it for a buck.
- CGreen, on 10/12/2007, -6/+2This wont actually happen though.
- jpkones, on 10/12/2007, -17/+1test message, was having problems posting, sorry...
- Davidofff, on 10/12/2007, -9/+10Serves him right for trying to make a fast buck ! If only all the ebay ps3 sellers made this mistake.
- PixelVision, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14Well he made a buck!
- kingace, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4Actually, he lost $598.
- SmartITGuy, on 10/12/2007, -15/+4I wouldn't take a PS3 OR an XBox 360 even at that price!
Both companies can bite me! - talman, on 10/12/2007, -13/+4Maybe postage and handling costs $1000
- lobbster, on 10/12/2007, -11/+6i call fake, but its still funny as hell
- Maagic, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8"He's tyring to milk hard earny money out of the rest of us by immediately putting it up just like these other dumb asses who are putting PS3s on for $2,000 plus."
Actually he's profiting on the stupidity of others and you and I both would do it too if given the chance. No one is forcing these jerkoffs to pay $2000 plus dollars on a stupid console. - ChefNick, on 10/12/2007, -7/+3That sux.
He wont go through with it though. Not a snowballs chance in hell.- CedEx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1What's the snowball's chance if hell freezes over?
- Aliarse, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9"trying to make a fast buck"
Dont tell me you would'nt do exactly the same thing if you had a spare ps3 lying around. I know i would.
If someone is willing to pay XXXX amount for a game system because his precious little son/daughter will whine like a spoilt little brat because they never got one for christmas, more fool them.
Honest mistake, and if i was him i wouldnt sell it either. I'd sooner have neg feedback and be kicked off fleabay then be out of pocket by £312.742 + shipping.- webcrumb, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2I wouldn't give a XXXX for anything else...
Actually, wait, I would. It's not that nice.
- webcrumb, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2I wouldn't give a XXXX for anything else...
- razishaban, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2fake... but funny
- TimDub, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedbackFromBuyers&userid=kusakay
'twas his first sale. - Philbert, on 10/12/2007, -7/+17Next time I see a description using the Mastercard "priceless" bit it gets automatically buried. It wasn't even funny after Mastercard had been doing it for a while, what makes everyone on the internet think it'll be any funnier when they do it?
- bcore, on 10/12/2007, -9/+0Oops, replying to wrong post
- misterpony, on 10/12/2007, -8/+1Welcome back, P9.
- aragami, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3if i were him i wouldnt ship it,
sure ebay is a legally binding contract and the buyer has every right to persue the guy in court, but who is going to spend a few grand on a legal battle over 99 cents?- skidude28, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1shipping it for 99 cents is just stupid.. lol
- mikeazorin, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2Notice there's no listed shipping price? Maybe he'll just say that shipping is $800, express from Krypton.
- SirHaakon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Um, yes there is. The auction clearly states, "Free Shipping from Boston."
- skidude28, on 10/12/2007, -8/+3wow, he got OWNED.
- jimmah, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1It was listed on ebay with that price for way too long to be fake, it looks like an honest mistake, but very unlucky for the seller!
And if he decides not to go through with the sale:
http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/seller-non-performance.html - bloobloo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9This is a perfect example of a contract that is voidable under the doctrine of mistake. Where one party makes a material mistake in the formation of a contract that “no man in his senses, not under delusion, would make…and which no fair and honest man would accept…” then it can be voided.
- xring2003, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1XENIXNINJA....sorry, I've gotta be an ass about this:
state /steɪt/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[steyt] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation, noun, adjective, verb, stat‧ed, stat‧ing.
–noun
7. a politically unified people occupying a definite territory; nation.
10. the body politic as organized for civil rule and government (distinguished from church).
15. of or pertaining to the central civil government or authority.
So, yeah, Europe does have states. Each individual country is a nation-state.
state. (n.d.). Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.0.1). Retrieved November 23, 2006, from Dictionary.com website: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/state
- profOblivion, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1... Sorry for duplicating your comment. Didn't see your reply and edit time ran out. :(
- xring2003, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0No prob Oblivion...I don't understand why we can't reply to replies???
Jamie
- maxinux, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1He can just email the winner that the shipping costs $1500 as it will be send by me and as you might dint know that I dint have a car so I will buy one and deliver it personally to you.
- cuttensteele, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Did you not see that shipping was free? How many of you people are going to say that he will just up the shipping before you read the damn article? And learn how to type.
- dukeinlondon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I am not even sure I would have noticed, if I had stumbled on that one....
- tmiller51, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I doubt most people would, that's why it took several hours for someone to bid.
- spencejenkins, on 10/12/2007, -6/+51 Blue-Ray Movie : Talladega Nights - Ballads of "Ricky Robbin"
Man, he was an idiot. - eh270, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Whatever, it's obviously worth taking the negative feedback hit on this item by claiming you don't actually have it. Not a big deal, really.
- mr.hostility, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Yeah, I'm sure he'll send it right away.
- tehLazyPirate, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3#1. The auction says "Free shipping from Boston." So its not like it isnt listed.
#2. That could be considered a bit of a loophole... What if he's unable to ship it FROM Boston? He could request shipping charges in the ammount of whatever he wanted, and if the buyer didnt pay, could then leave negative feedback for him...
Kind of a double edge sword tho... - ramsinks.com, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Ya, I'd take a negative feedback for that one..
- baugles, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0Yeah but he doesn't HAVE to ship it out. There's no laws enforcing it unless the other person paid and the seller accepted.
Otherwise it's just negative feedback. No big deal. - Hitchhiker90, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4This ranks right up there with those people who sell email addresses on ebay. "wii_reseller@yahoo.com" VERY RARE!!11!
- SomeManbeapig, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1haha - $599 - 14 waiting in line (salary) - $1500 profit + $0.99 = owned
- jdubz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1@colklink
You're right but special performance requires the item to be unique and basically irreplaceable...With the PS3 this is obviously not the case due to the amount that are currently on ebay. - cwcheang, on 10/12/2007, -7/+1I, for one, welcome our new bunch of PS3 dumbasses overlord.
- raid517, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7I emailed the guy and informed him of his mistake. I think it is a scam however by some digg attention whore, but just in case it isn't I thought the decent thing was to let him know.
Hopefully some of you guys will do likewise.- raid517, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Oh thanks. I got dugg down for doing the decent thing.
Man why are so many of the guys on digg really just total assholes?
- raid517, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Oh thanks. I got dugg down for doing the decent thing.
- r81984, on 10/12/2007, -5/+2It is a legal contract, all the buyer had to do was pay, The seller does not have to accept payment because the buyer can print out the paypal record that the seller was sent the money. The seller cannot deny being sent the money, regardless if he accepted it or not.
I easily see this going to small claims court (no lawyers allowed), maybe even judge judy or other tv judge. That way we can see the dumb ass explain why he sold it for 99 cents then refused to send it after the sale. The buyer will win and get his PS3.
Since the seller would be ***** either way, he should just save time and send it now.- fatdog789, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4No, it wasn't. There are so many posts above explaining why it isn't a valid contract that you have to be blind not to understand this by now.
Short explanation: $.99 is clearly a mistake because it is so far out of the bounds of the current market price. Even if it wasn't a mistake, it too unreasonable a price (for essentially the same reason) for anyone to reasonably consider it a valid offer to sell a PS3.
IOW...the buyer would get laughed at in small claims court before the judge threw it out.
- fatdog789, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4No, it wasn't. There are so many posts above explaining why it isn't a valid contract that you have to be blind not to understand this by now.
- mykodacon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6@r81984
You are wrong. The buyer could only collect damages, which would be his $.99. I am a power seller on ebay and I will mistakenly sell items I no longer have all the time. You are allowed to make mistakes.- zongamin, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4You must be a great powerseller then!
- maddonkey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Free Shipping from Boston
you would the dumbass that falls for this type of auction because you can not read! - biggs909, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0Serves him right, he can't even spell "Playstation"
- alfonsmr, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4digg.com is losing his appeal after more and more digg news are only people laughing at a total clear mistake of a person.
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