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- zaibatsu, on 12/03/2007, -6/+63Here's the back story: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:First_Web_Serve ...
- punx777, on 12/03/2007, -6/+34" This machine is a SERVER, do not power off"
--classic.- JoshuaH, on 12/03/2007, -4/+12*down
- themastersb, on 12/03/2007, -3/+21Then as one of the cleaning crew comes in: "Hey. Someone left this computer on. I should turn it off to save power. The boss will be so happy with how I'm such an environmentalist."
- rpgmaker, on 12/03/2007, -2/+2Golden Boy?
- astrotrain, on 12/03/2007, -0/+2"Do Not Touch. -Willie"
- Genma, on 12/03/2007, -20/+13someone pls explain wtf this has to do with steve jobs.
- tynantyguy, on 12/03/2007, -4/+22Steve Jobs developed NeXT computers.
- SteveMax, on 12/03/2007, -5/+25Therefore, it's Job's accomplishment, not Tim Berners-Lee's (at least here in Digg)
- jrbrewin, on 12/03/2007, -3/+12isn't that kinda like saying bill gates made linux? (i.e., very ***** wrong)
- bradleyland, on 12/03/2007, -0/+13Thank you for saying that. This photo has been up on the Wikipedia entry for WWW since June of 2006 and is PROPERLY credited as the computer belonging to Tim Berners-Lee. Only a complete douchebag would caption the photo with "Another Steve Jobs First" without any additional explanation.
- SteveMax, on 12/03/2007, -5/+25Therefore, it's Job's accomplishment, not Tim Berners-Lee's (at least here in Digg)
- Genma, on 12/03/2007, -0/+1something that should perhaps be included in the wiki? I went to the article and didn't see his name mentioned anywhere. maybe it used to be and the majority decided that he does in fact have nothing to do with this system in particular. of which I know ***** about so this is just speculation of course, but this post did get flagged as inaccurate. maybe.
- turpenine, on 12/03/2007, -0/+1look up next and behold the jobsness
- tynantyguy, on 12/03/2007, -4/+22Steve Jobs developed NeXT computers.
- lazlonger, on 12/03/2007, -1/+1.
- punx777, on 12/03/2007, -6/+34" This machine is a SERVER, do not power off"
- windyridge, on 12/03/2007, -6/+8Pretty neat to see how far we have come.
- OrangeTide, on 12/03/2007, -1/+24That hardware can run Apache 2.x without much trouble. Might want a bit more RAM if you plan on running PHP or Ruby On Rails though. We haven't gone far at all. We're still at the beginning of the information revolution.
- fkr3, on 12/03/2007, -0/+7information revolution.... that sounds every bit as stupid as web 2.0.
- johnson67th, on 12/04/2007, -3/+1When i read that i thought of that movie Orange County "lets get naked and start the revolution." haha classic
- fkr3, on 12/03/2007, -0/+7information revolution.... that sounds every bit as stupid as web 2.0.
- OrangeTide, on 12/03/2007, -1/+24That hardware can run Apache 2.x without much trouble. Might want a bit more RAM if you plan on running PHP or Ruby On Rails though. We haven't gone far at all. We're still at the beginning of the information revolution.
- MikeonTV, on 12/03/2007, -7/+156Oddly enough it is powered down.
- kalleanka, on 12/03/2007, -5/+139You are just like my mom... When she sees me turn of my monitor she thinks I have turned of the computer...
- Archon810, on 12/03/2007, -19/+35off
- Archon810, on 12/03/2007, -11/+72ok, whatever, digg me down. i will just turn of my monitor and go ofline.
- PDubNYC, on 12/03/2007, -8/+4OFF
- meschmie, on 12/03/2007, -4/+1Hey good work PDNYC. I had no idea what he was saying, I mean what's "ofline." That doesn't make anysense at all!!!!
- turpenine, on 12/03/2007, -9/+3what are you,14?
- zbarnett, on 12/04/2007, -0/+2He can't help it even if he is 14...go do something productive.
- Archon810, on 12/03/2007, -19/+35off
- arusso, on 12/03/2007, -1/+15If I'm not mistaken, the picture was taken when it was already in the museum...
- zachshmack, on 12/03/2007, -5/+88Ahhh, THAT'S what powers Wordpress
- Spuy767, on 12/03/2007, -1/+5ZING!
- mhearne, on 12/04/2007, -0/+1It isn't odd at all. That setup is sitting in a computer museum.
- kalleanka, on 12/03/2007, -5/+139You are just like my mom... When she sees me turn of my monitor she thinks I have turned of the computer...
- sophiaperennis, on 12/03/2007, -10/+190The good old CERN machine. Turning that machine off equalled turning off the internets.
- rspeed, on 12/03/2007, -22/+37Hi. World Wide Web != Internet.
- strictnein, on 12/03/2007, -12/+5Not sure why you're getting buried. How again would turning off this machine at CERN effect all the Internet servers at many universities across the US?
- mhearne, on 12/04/2007, -0/+2This goes back to the days of the bbb's.
In other words, you paid a fee and collected your email every night at say , 7 PM. Then there was collaboration and such, and port numbers _really_ meant something. It was great. It was all new and the participants were like pioneers.
Now of course, things are (supposedly) set in stone, and there is nothing new to do. I disagree certainly, but I do not have the money or resources to do things differently.
- mhearne, on 12/04/2007, -0/+2This goes back to the days of the bbb's.
- bearsinthesea, on 12/03/2007, -5/+9seriously, why is this buried? The internet was SMTP and IRC and gopher long before it was www.
Its the Big Corporate HTTP lobbies? anti-FTP agitprop? - dinostabOMG, on 12/03/2007, -1/+19He said INTERNETS, not Internet.
- neodorian, on 12/03/2007, -1/+4Right, and turning off the first WWW server did not equal turning off all protocols/uses of the internet(s)
- dinostabOMG, on 12/04/2007, -1/+6Uh, I'm pretty sure you're not getting this concept of a series of tubes.
- neodorian, on 12/03/2007, -1/+4Right, and turning off the first WWW server did not equal turning off all protocols/uses of the internet(s)
- strictnein, on 12/03/2007, -12/+5Not sure why you're getting buried. How again would turning off this machine at CERN effect all the Internet servers at many universities across the US?
- sigginike90, on 12/03/2007, -17/+4"...the internets."
I can see you are very internet!- slapded, on 12/03/2007, -1/+13i can see you dont understand bush jokes
- pkiani, on 12/03/2007, -5/+2'.. internets'
haha dugg for bush reference.
- rspeed, on 12/03/2007, -22/+37Hi. World Wide Web != Internet.
- pimpbot1979, on 12/03/2007, -7/+192Oddly enough it was used to power an ASCII porno BBS.
- tuntcickle, on 12/03/2007, -3/+11the ultimate in nerd
- tehrob, on 12/03/2007, -1/+37... and that is odd why?
- uziko, on 12/03/2007, -0/+17Is it still around? I want to see it to,uh, research old methods of porn.
- ZachSka87, on 12/03/2007, -0/+13sorry to double post, just saw your comment, lol
http://www.asciipr0n.com/pr0n/pinups.html- funkyjunk3, on 12/03/2007, -1/+2lol
- ZachSka87, on 12/03/2007, -0/+13sorry to double post, just saw your comment, lol
- ZachSka87, on 12/03/2007, -0/+17http://www.asciipr0n.com/pr0n/pinups.html
- uziko, on 12/03/2007, -0/+10My penis would not have liked to be living when this stuff was the only porn on the internet.
- tyderian, on 12/03/2007, -0/+18You would have wanked to it like everyone else at the time ;)
- BHSPitMonkey, on 12/03/2007, -0/+4Magazines came into existence well after the dawn of the internet.
- toastgodsupreme, on 12/03/2007, -8/+23Want to play a MUDD with me?
west
west
examine corpse
get all corpse
north
cast magic missile goblin
if you don't get this, you're too young. ;)- oneoverzero, on 12/03/2007, -3/+43or maybe we do get it and it's not very funny
- NSMike, on 12/03/2007, -2/+9get ye flask
go dennis - DeadElephant, on 12/03/2007, -0/+1Pick up the key or we'll never open the door dude!
- Firehed, on 12/03/2007, -2/+5You typed out full commands? No wonder you sucked
w;w;g all corpse;n; c 'magic m' gob - zebula234, on 12/03/2007, -0/+1Ha and to think I still play a mud .. anyone used to play www.durismud.com?
- Tyrghast, on 12/03/2007, -0/+12"Hey Steve, what the hell is a 'server'?"
"Well, the quick definition is 'porn box'..."- DeadElephant, on 12/03/2007, -5/+4A series of Tubes.
- h0m3styl3, on 12/03/2007, -0/+2Some might call it a 'porn box' and if you know anything about porn, it keeps the tubes filled with..ugh..stuff. And if you don't understand those tubes can be filled...
- subxero37, on 12/03/2007, -1/+41I've always wanted to tinker with a NeXT machine; in their day, they were some incredible machines.
- dlsspy, on 12/03/2007, -7/+28They still are. The newer ones are called ``macs.''
I've got a couple older NeXT boxes from that era around the house, but the APIs in the newer ones are more fun for me.- Zorkon, on 12/03/2007, -0/+7True. You can definitely see the NeXT underpinnings in OS X whenever you browse through the API: NSString, NSArray, NSView, NSAlert, NSBrowser, NSOpenPanel ... wonder what that NS stands for? NeXTStep perhaps? ;)
- Zorkon, on 12/03/2007, -0/+7True. You can definitely see the NeXT underpinnings in OS X whenever you browse through the API: NSString, NSArray, NSView, NSAlert, NSBrowser, NSOpenPanel ... wonder what that NS stands for? NeXTStep perhaps? ;)
- ptsd, on 12/03/2007, -6/+20who the ***** would down vote you? you know what, ***** digg, im tired of all the morons here.
NeXT computers were awesome...aside the stupid looking mouse.- PyrotekNX, on 12/03/2007, -0/+1If I could mod you up 100 points, I would.
- turpenine, on 12/03/2007, -0/+1They where the most superior system at the time of their creation, but too expensive.
- RedHerringHack, on 12/03/2007, -0/+1Display Postscript. Gotta love that.
- dlsspy, on 12/03/2007, -7/+28They still are. The newer ones are called ``macs.''
- edebolt, on 12/03/2007, -2/+42I had one of those.. That is a PPC powered NeXT Station Turbo circa 1992. At the time I had a whopping 32 mb of RAM and thought I was a bad ass.
- edebolt, on 12/03/2007, -1/+7on sorry. that was a earlier NeXT Station Cube.. Later they produced the slab design which could be positioned under the monitor....
- Jerk, on 12/03/2007, -0/+10Not PPC, 68k.
- edebolt, on 12/03/2007, -5/+2yup your right !!!!!
- OrangeTide, on 12/03/2007, -2/+2 I worked with a guy who designed the hardware/motherboard for that thing.
- zeejay, on 12/03/2007, -0/+4I still love that black cube form factor - not space-efficient, but bad-ass in a Borg kind of way. I wish the new Mac Pros would get that design, and bring it full circle.
- turpenine, on 12/03/2007, -1/+1xbox360.
- aduzik, on 12/03/2007, -2/+3Steve Jobs *loves* cubes for some reason. Legend has it that he actually insisted they square off the corners to nearly razor-sharp points so it would be more cube-like.
- combatchuck, on 12/04/2007, -0/+2Considering the competition at the time, it was indeed badass.
- Kier, on 12/03/2007, -14/+257Of course, no mention of Tim Berners-Lee, who invented the net, but of STEVE JOBS!! Man of unparalleled science and creation. I love Apple products, but let's give credit where credits due, eh?
- IllBeBack, on 12/03/2007, -29/+7Tim didn't invent the Internet. You fail.
- Kier, on 12/03/2007, -1/+30Touche, he invented the World Wide Web. Small error on my part.
- IllBeBack, on 12/03/2007, -5/+5Nice recovery.
- viniciusfontes, on 12/03/2007, -0/+4"It's super effective!"
- Kier, on 12/03/2007, -1/+30Touche, he invented the World Wide Web. Small error on my part.
- spudnic, on 12/03/2007, -1/+19Funny thing is, this image is from Tim Berners-Lee's wiki page
"This NeXTcube was used by Berners-Lee at CERN and became the first Web server."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Berners-Lee - SLockhart, on 12/03/2007, -21/+10Who's this Tim guy? Everyone knows Al Gore invented the Interwebs.
- mojonandha, on 12/03/2007, -13/+1You are ancient
- RizzoFrank, on 12/03/2007, -8/+1Al Gore
- plachenko, on 12/03/2007, -1/+7Not the 'net-- Sir Tim Berners-Lee "invented" the world wide web. The internet was created by ARPA back in the 50s.
- Kier, on 12/03/2007, -0/+2Corrected in another reply ;) sorry bout that.
- IllBeBack, on 12/03/2007, -29/+7Tim didn't invent the Internet. You fail.
- statikuz, on 12/03/2007, -16/+139From Wikipedia: "The NeXT Computer and NeXTcube were high-end workstation computers developed, manufactured and sold by NeXT from 1988 until 1993. They ran the NeXTSTEP operating system. The NeXT Computer (often informally referred to as "the Cube") was released as a 1-foot (305 mm) die-cast magnesium cube. It cost US$6500."
I would digg it, but the submitter had to tag on a little bit of Steve Jobs fanboyism so down it goes! ;) - Dylson, on 12/03/2007, -32/+3Thank you your Stevieness.
- Dylson, on 12/03/2007, -5/+1Why the ***** am I getting buried?
- mediaploy, on 12/03/2007, -1/+16i wonder how it will handle the digg effect.
- mojonandha, on 12/03/2007, -15/+1there is no such thing as digg effect. Most diggs i have seen is 2000 , maybe 3000 but that doesnt take a page down hosted in a decent host.
- Rowan187, on 12/03/2007, -1/+8hey there! look around fool and you will see some diggs have passed 14,000 diggs, just look at the one recently where Trent Reznor left the record company and all that. and just because a few thousand people dugg it doesn't mean they're the only ones that haven't visited and linked their friends to the page.
- mojonandha, on 12/03/2007, -10/+1yeah you actually have to point to me a story which has been dug tens of thousnands of times. Its not that you see a bunch of stories everyday which passed that kinda numbers. So look around idiot you are the only one who thinks there is something called a digg effect.
- KnightWhoSaysNi, on 12/03/2007, -0/+6Most people who click on the featured story don't bother to click on the 'Digg" button.
Site Visits != Diggs - betterth, on 12/03/2007, -0/+4Hey look it's a newbie. The Digg effect is a well known and documented concept. Tens of thousands of hits in under an hour is average for a good front page story. Most hosts generally buckle because they don't have the ability to handle that many DB connections. It's always the effing db that goes first lol.
- mediaploy, on 12/03/2007, -0/+1chill out its only a joke
- Rowan187, on 12/03/2007, -1/+8hey there! look around fool and you will see some diggs have passed 14,000 diggs, just look at the one recently where Trent Reznor left the record company and all that. and just because a few thousand people dugg it doesn't mean they're the only ones that haven't visited and linked their friends to the page.
- mojonandha, on 12/03/2007, -15/+1there is no such thing as digg effect. Most diggs i have seen is 2000 , maybe 3000 but that doesnt take a page down hosted in a decent host.
- doctordbx, on 12/03/2007, -20/+144Dugg down for the Steve Jobs ***** loving reference. (really, this should be an option on the bury drop down)
So many things have been invented on the humble PC the mind boggles.- colincornaby, on 12/03/2007, -15/+1Such as what exactly?
- doctordbx, on 12/03/2007, -0/+14Obviously not Apple Fanboism.
- dunkin, on 12/03/2007, -5/+9malware
- nnagflar, on 12/03/2007, -2/+7Games.
- KraftDinner101, on 12/03/2007, -0/+8Your mom.
- Speed, on 12/03/2007, -0/+3DOS, Windows, MacOS (yes, Macs are PCs too), video games, and so on.
- ucg1, on 12/03/2007, -4/+2What does personal computing have to do with this?
- colincornaby, on 12/03/2007, -15/+1Such as what exactly?
- has2k1, on 12/03/2007, -2/+31If you look carefully between the monitor and the base station, you can catch a glimpse of the tubes.
- loopist, on 12/03/2007, -13/+7Tim Berners-Lee invented HTML...big step towards the net we know, but to say he "created the internet" isn't necessarily true. What about the creators of TCP/IP? I think there are many who helped push it along, and Tim was one....
- crunchyeyeball, on 12/03/2007, -0/+9No-one's suggesting he invented the Internet. TBL invented the World Wide Web as we know it - HTML, HTTP, the URL, and the web browser (screen shot: http://www.w3.org/History/1994/WWW/Journals/CACM/s ...
- iainmd, on 12/03/2007, -1/+6No one said he created the Internet. He created the World Wide Web.
- fiftyeggs, on 12/03/2007, -1/+2He didn't invent the internet as a whole. But he did invent the "World Wide Web" by begin the first to introduce a usable language - HTML.
Without his contribution, we wouldn't have websites, and more importantly, we would have to remember IP addresses instead of URLs.
So in a manner of speaking, his invention was the biggest push to those that matter most in tech ratification = Consumers.- johnnysaucepn, on 12/03/2007, -1/+6"and more importantly, we would have to remember IP addresses instead of URLs."
No, that would be Paul Mockapetris, inventor of DNS -which predated TCP/IP.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Mockapetris
- johnnysaucepn, on 12/03/2007, -1/+6"and more importantly, we would have to remember IP addresses instead of URLs."
- KargeOfTylenol, on 12/03/2007, -24/+11Al Gore must be spinning in his grave.
- fiftyeggs, on 12/03/2007, -5/+25Al Gore championed the bill that allowed funding for this "World Wide Web" to take off. It's the republicans that took what he said completely out of context and ran with it.
One a side note, I don't know if you were joking, but Al Gore fortunately is not dead. But tasteful jokes on Digg however... seems to be.- marcus1060, on 12/03/2007, -11/+4You are an idiot, obviously he was making a joke on the two facts you pointed out.
Everyone knows he didn't create the WWW, and he most likely knows he's not dead.- FRAGaLOT, on 12/03/2007, -8/+1Wait Gore said he "invented the internet" not the WWW. So which is it exactly?
- TennisElbow, on 12/03/2007, -0/+8Gore never said he "invented the internet". Quotation marks are supposed to be used to indicate words someone actually spoke, not words some right-wing meme spreading think tank pulled out of their collective ass seven years ago to create a soundbite for the Bush campaign.
- aximbigfan, on 12/03/2007, -7/+1Actually, he did.
- Bing11, on 12/03/2007, -0/+6aximbigfan, source, please.
- marcus1060, on 12/03/2007, -11/+4You are an idiot, obviously he was making a joke on the two facts you pointed out.
- fiftyeggs, on 12/03/2007, -5/+25Al Gore championed the bill that allowed funding for this "World Wide Web" to take off. It's the republicans that took what he said completely out of context and ran with it.
- Carv, on 12/03/2007, -10/+3It was used for porn. Duh.
- mhearne, on 12/04/2007, -1/+1Actually, until about 7 or 8 years ago, the internet was free, and we did not have to put up with being logged or "controlled".
- mhearne, on 12/04/2007, -1/+1Actually, until about 7 or 8 years ago, the internet was free, and we did not have to put up with being logged or "controlled".
- Raian, on 12/03/2007, -1/+7You know, I think we really ought to include this in the next Epcot Center.
- starlord1, on 12/03/2007, -2/+1Nice reference to today's news.
- Misinformant, on 12/03/2007, -1/+58I think Comcast still uses it.
- StephenCIreland, on 12/04/2007, -0/+1no, judging by there service, they probably use windows 3.1
- mhearne, on 12/04/2007, -0/+1Nope, it was UNIX.
- aznhomig, on 12/03/2007, -15/+67Funny enough, there's no mention of Steve Jobs in the background for this machine.
Buried for blatant falsification of where credit is due.- fiftyeggs, on 12/03/2007, -10/+3This should cheer you up. Steve with a Next Cube
http://manuelsagra.files.wordpress.com/2007/03/nex ...- frostw, on 12/03/2007, -3/+13404 — Steve Jobs not found.
- TennisElbow, on 12/03/2007, -3/+4I can't believe in the age of Google and Wikipedia someone is so stupid and inept that he can't type "steve jobs next cube" and find out the connection for himself. If those pages are too many words for you, just type "Steve Jobs NeXT" into youtube and watch some nice talking pictures on the subject.
- combatchuck, on 12/04/2007, -0/+1The fact is, Tim Berners-Lee could have created the WWW on any type of machine. It happened to be a Next cube. Steve Jobs does NOT get credit for inventing the web. Nobody credits IBM with making the internet, even though the first internet servers were (likely) IBM machines.
- fiftyeggs, on 12/03/2007, -10/+3This should cheer you up. Steve with a Next Cube
- kerryhall, on 12/03/2007, -6/+17The Steve Jobs reference in the description has got to be sarcasm.
- doctordbx, on 12/03/2007, -3/+2Unfortunately, the way sarcasm works is that if you have to say 'it has to be sarcasm' it automatically isn't. Perhaps attempted sarcasm.
- r3zonance, on 12/03/2007, -2/+1Surely that would be in reference to jokes, and having to say "it's a joke" at the end.
- doctordbx, on 12/03/2007, -0/+1Exactly the same premise... yes.
- insllvn, on 12/03/2007, -0/+1I would agree if not for all the times I have made a sarcastic comment only to have the mouth breathers on digg (there are mouth breathers here, not all digg users are mouth breathers) call me an idiot/racist/douchebag/etc. Text often fails to convey the nuance of sarcasm. Now I know to make my sarcasm clear through the use of the /sarcasm tag.
/fed up with idiots
- r3zonance, on 12/03/2007, -2/+1Surely that would be in reference to jokes, and having to say "it's a joke" at the end.
- TennisElbow, on 12/03/2007, -1/+7The NeXT computer in that photo is a Steve Jobs creation. The NeXT operation system it ran is what we know today as OS X Leopard.
- aduzik, on 12/03/2007, -0/+3In fact, all the classes in the Cocoa library on Mac OS X start with the abbreviation "NS" (e.g. NSWindow, NSButton, NSString -- which actually didn't exist until Mac OS X) which stood for NEXTSTEP, the operating system for NeXT computers.
- f54280, on 12/03/2007, -1/+2NSString didn't exist until Mac OS X ? Weird, I thought that EOF introduced the FoundationKit as a replacement for NeXTstep DBKit, and included the autorelease mecanism and the NSString which were then included in NeXTstep 3.0
At least this is what I worked with in the 90's. Maybe aliens implanted me fake memories.
Or maybe you just don't know what you are talking about ?
- f54280, on 12/03/2007, -1/+2NSString didn't exist until Mac OS X ? Weird, I thought that EOF introduced the FoundationKit as a replacement for NeXTstep DBKit, and included the autorelease mecanism and the NSString which were then included in NeXTstep 3.0
- neveroffline, on 12/03/2007, -0/+0Mac OS X was created and built off of the Open BSD platform, otherwise at the time known as Darwin. Leopard is basically a beefed up Open BSD system and not linux, or anywhere close to NeXT OS circa 88-93. That is like comparing dos to Windows 98 claiming DOS is 98, or 2000, etc. Please educate yourself before you make such fanboy statements neXT time.
- combatchuck, on 12/04/2007, -0/+1False. Apple bought NeXT in 1996, specifically to use the NeXTStep OS as a foundation for Mac OSX. NeXT was a FreeBSD-based OS, using a Mach microkernel instead of the BSD kernel. If you had the correct display libraries (Display Postscript), a NeXT app would most likely run on a modern Mac.
- tekrat, on 12/03/2007, -0/+1Actually you're both right. The kernel is a derivative of Open BSD called Darwin. The GUI is mainly NextStep.
- mhearne, on 12/04/2007, -0/+1Aha! And under Linux it is called "AfterStep" (AfterStep X11 window manager).
- mhearne, on 12/04/2007, -0/+1Aha! And under Linux it is called "AfterStep" (AfterStep X11 window manager).
- aduzik, on 12/03/2007, -0/+3In fact, all the classes in the Cocoa library on Mac OS X start with the abbreviation "NS" (e.g. NSWindow, NSButton, NSString -- which actually didn't exist until Mac OS X) which stood for NEXTSTEP, the operating system for NeXT computers.
- doctordbx, on 12/03/2007, -3/+2Unfortunately, the way sarcasm works is that if you have to say 'it has to be sarcasm' it automatically isn't. Perhaps attempted sarcasm.
- TheFunnyDigger, on 12/03/2007, -9/+2I think the worlds first server should have been named Flo http://www.sitcomsonline.com/photos/flologo.jpg
- atomofconsumpti, on 12/03/2007, -4/+13what kind of a ***** retard doesn't links it right to the .jpg when there's a whole ***** wikipedia page for it. god dammit!
- mojonandha, on 12/03/2007, -2/+11someone who can make a sentence without making mistakes.
- zspitfire04, on 12/03/2007, -0/+2Someone needs to be Capitalized. =]
- zbarnett, on 12/04/2007, -0/+2Posting images in the image section creates a problem how??
- mojonandha, on 12/03/2007, -2/+11someone who can make a sentence without making mistakes.
- nagual678, on 12/03/2007, -14/+16dugg down for what does steve jobs have to do with this ?
- Macskeeball, on 12/03/2007, -0/+8He founded NeXT. That server was a NeXT Cube. Tim Berners-Lee really liked NeXTStep, the OS they ran, and NeXTStep exists today as the basis for Mac OS X.
- nagual678, on 12/04/2007, -0/+1So... did steve jobs engineer the 1 web server ?
no, he was the head of the company that made the computer the 1rst web server was engineered on.
seriously, mentioning him here is just mindless worshipping.- Macskeeball, on 12/04/2007, -0/+1Without a doubt, the main person here is absolutely Tim Berners-Lee, and that Jobs is not one person doing everything at whatever given company he runs (far from it). I too find the mention of Jobs in this context quite odd.
On the other hand, your comment made it seem like you were someone who was unaware of Job' connection to NeXT, thus my first (apparently mistaken) comment. There is some connection, however minute that connection may be. From what I've heard, Jobs is to some extent the micromanaging type.
- Macskeeball, on 12/04/2007, -0/+1Without a doubt, the main person here is absolutely Tim Berners-Lee, and that Jobs is not one person doing everything at whatever given company he runs (far from it). I too find the mention of Jobs in this context quite odd.
- nagual678, on 12/04/2007, -0/+1So... did steve jobs engineer the 1 web server ?
- Macskeeball, on 12/03/2007, -0/+8He founded NeXT. That server was a NeXT Cube. Tim Berners-Lee really liked NeXTStep, the OS they ran, and NeXTStep exists today as the basis for Mac OS X.
- stockjones, on 12/03/2007, -11/+34This is about Tim Berners-Lee NOT Steve Jobs you dolts. Steve Jobs had nothing to do with the first web server.
- saggygrandma, on 12/03/2007, -3/+17He created Next, thats why his name is mentioned.
- TennisElbow, on 12/03/2007, -1/+6That server is a NeXT cube. Steve Jobs founded NeXT after he was ousted from Apple in the mid-1980s. Apple then bought NeXT in 1997 in order to get the NeXT OS along with Jobs. The operating system that ran on the NeXT cube in that photo is the OS we today call Mac OS X Leopard.
- virtualonliner, on 12/03/2007, -14/+18I pity those who say "What the ***** this has got to do with Steve Jobs?". Why, of course, every major advancement is computer science is done by a certain Steve Jobs! Haven't you guys heard of Reality Distortion Field?
- tk0680, on 12/03/2007, -5/+3You mean the Jobs Field?
- TennisElbow, on 12/03/2007, -1/+2I pity those who say, "what the ***** does this have to do with Steve Jobs" without looking up the history of NeXT, it would take all of five seconds with today's technology. That server in the photo is a Steve Jobs creation.
- neveroffline, on 12/03/2007, -0/+0sigh...
- baldgye, on 12/03/2007, -6/+1never power Jown
- jwdav, on 12/03/2007, -10/+16Steve Jobs built NeXT, NeXT's programming tools & Objective C is what enabled Tim Berners-Lee to imagine and actually build a working model.
http://www.w3.org/People/Berners-Lee/WorldWideWeb. ...- Acolyte357, on 12/03/2007, -2/+14No, if you read your own ***** link, hes says "This had the advantage that there were some great tools available -it was a great computing environment in general. In fact, I could do in a couple of months what would take more like a year on other platforms,"
But I think it's pretty cool how you STEAL credit for Berners-Lee's thought process and give it to Jobs. "what enabled Tim Berners-Lee to imagine"
"A team led by Avie Tevanian, one of the Mach engineers at Carnegie Mellon University who had since joined the company, were to develop the operating system, whilst the hardware division led by Rich Page, one of the cofounders who had previously led the Apple Lisa team, were to develop and design the hardware. The name of the company was changed to NeXT Computer, Inc.." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NeXT
Wow, I don't see Jobs in that statement anywhere. Jump off his nuts, he's a great business man, but that's it. - mrferg, on 12/03/2007, -1/+10So going by this logic, if you invented the screwdriver then every device in the future that used screws you can take credit for? Bogus
- TennisElbow, on 12/03/2007, -0/+2This submission is about the web server box itself, not about the web.
- Acolyte357, on 12/03/2007, -2/+14No, if you read your own ***** link, hes says "This had the advantage that there were some great tools available -it was a great computing environment in general. In fact, I could do in a couple of months what would take more like a year on other platforms,"
- merkuree, on 12/03/2007, -14/+6props where props are due.......Jobs and Apple are deserving of Fanboy/girl-ism.........
- brendangenius, on 12/03/2007, -13/+6Digg down because he mentions Steve Jobs? Wow.
- Acolyte357, on 12/03/2007, -0/+6No because he credits Jobs, for something Jobs had nothing to do with besides sell Tim a computer.
- edebolt, on 12/03/2007, -1/+13This brings back memories. I was working at the University of Colorado Boulder and somebody told me this WWW.app was a game changer so I downloaded it to try it on my NeXT Station. It was so crude and lacking any function I could not get too interested... Then I heard about this Marc Andriessen guy and early Mosaic beta's and immediately understood the application and then I was hooked.... If it was up to T-B-L then I doubt it would have taken off as it did.... The OBJ C environment of the NeXT OS let a non programmer like T-B-L create a new paradigm and Jobs et all really do deserve credit for enabling all of this.
- rick2k, on 12/03/2007, -12/+5"Nextstep was the object-oriented operating system developed by Steve Jobs' company "NeXT" after he left Apple in 1985" Ok.
So why is eveyone digging this down.
Steve jobs developed the software that the WWW was created on.
You really should be digging down the people who say tim created the "internet"- ElimGarak, on 12/03/2007, -1/+8Because first of all, Steve Jobs did not develop the software - he started a company that developed the software. I doubt he wrote a single line of code for that box. Second, he did not develop the software on which WWW was created on - he was the CEO of the company that developed the platform on which the software was written. You missed a few degrees of separation there. Kind-of like crediting BillG for writing DOOM.
- Balanced, on 12/03/2007, -1/+1Actually, wasn't a lot of Doom and Quake written on NeXT machines at the time? I thoguht I hear John Carmack favored them for development environments.
- f54280, on 12/03/2007, -0/+1Yep. Doom was written on NeXTstep.
- Balanced, on 12/03/2007, -1/+1Actually, wasn't a lot of Doom and Quake written on NeXT machines at the time? I thoguht I hear John Carmack favored them for development environments.
- ScottyMcBaggs, on 12/03/2007, -0/+3Jobs isn't a programmer dude; he's a mouth, a frontman, an interface. The programmers are the implementation behind his mouth (interface). That's about as Object-Oriented as Jobs gets.
- alperea, on 12/03/2007, -0/+1He did make the cute little fonts for the early macintosh.
- starlord1, on 12/03/2007, -0/+1Just to point out the differentiation between the internet and the www!
- ElimGarak, on 12/03/2007, -1/+8Because first of all, Steve Jobs did not develop the software - he started a company that developed the software. I doubt he wrote a single line of code for that box. Second, he did not develop the software on which WWW was created on - he was the CEO of the company that developed the platform on which the software was written. You missed a few degrees of separation there. Kind-of like crediting BillG for writing DOOM.
- nulix, on 12/03/2007, -2/+14Sorry, but crediting Jobs here is like crediting linus torvalds for the Apache web server. Yes, he might have had some hand in the software it runs on, but the people who actually wrote the thing deserve a lot more credit!
- Thisistooboring, on 12/03/2007, -12/+18What the ***** does this have to do with Steve Jobs? This wasn't a first by Steve Jobs you numbnut, it's a first by Tim Berners-Lee, you ignorant Apple pissant. The keyboard obviously says property of CERN.
"This NeXT workstation (a NeXTcube) was used by Tim Berners-Lee as the first Web server on the World Wide Web. Today, it is kept in Microcosm, the public museum at the Meyrin site of CERN, in the Canton of Geneva, Switzerland."
Burried for inaccurate description.- tk0680, on 12/03/2007, -7/+3So you didn't cotton onto the fact that Jobs was the man behind that NeXTCube?
- TennisElbow, on 12/03/2007, -4/+2The OS on that server is the OS we today call Mac OS X Leopard. The hardware itself in the photo was manufactured and sold to CERN by the company NeXT, which Steve Jobs founded.
- Acolyte357, on 12/03/2007, -1/+2So can we give Bill Gates credit for everything invented on a windows machine? Didn't think so Jobs didn't do ***** here, besides sell a computer.
- TennisElbow, on 12/03/2007, -0/+1Microsoft never made a computer, let alone a server. This submission is about the web server itself, a picture of the hardware...hardware which steve jobs is directly responsible for putting in berners-lee's hands.
- Thisistooboring, on 12/03/2007, -0/+1Give me a freakin' break. Let's give credit to Pingala for binary and Tesla for distributed electricity while we're at it.
Steve Jobs had as little to do with this as the above.
- Acolyte357, on 12/03/2007, -1/+2So can we give Bill Gates credit for everything invented on a windows machine? Didn't think so Jobs didn't do ***** here, besides sell a computer.
- HoagieKat, on 12/03/2007, -2/+24Some people ought to learn the history on the WWW, Tim Berners-Lee invented the worlds first web server application, not Steve Jobs (even though he had a hand in the NeXT Cube)... It's like crediting Bill Gates with inventing winamp. So I've hit the Bury button.
- TennisElbow, on 12/03/2007, -7/+1Without the NeXT hardware and NeXT OS, Tim Berners-Lee might not have been able to create the web. In fact, the web is really just a more practical implementation of NeXT's OpenDoc format.
- chicagodj, on 12/03/2007, -1/+6If it wasn't done on a next machine with the next os then it would have been done on a different machine. Jobs was just in the right place at the right time.
- TennisElbow, on 12/03/2007, -7/+1Without the NeXT hardware and NeXT OS, Tim Berners-Lee might not have been able to create the web. In fact, the web is really just a more practical implementation of NeXT's OpenDoc format.
- yujie, on 12/03/2007, -4/+2Looks like a dinosaur
- phlll, on 12/03/2007, -1/+20Charles Babbage should get props here too... after all, he designed the Differential Engine, which is the foundation of computing! So he invented virtual reality!
- chicagodj, on 12/03/2007, -0/+3Bravo... best association yet...
- solid12345, on 12/03/2007, -0/+3I miss Babbage's retail store.
- copyland, on 12/03/2007, -0/+2Babbage in, Baggage out.
- plachenko, on 12/03/2007, -0/+1What? Lovelace should be getting most of the credit for the differential Engine... after all she did program the damn thing. That is-- she programmed it after Steve Jobs went back in time in the worlds first time machine that he invented and showed her how to do it.
- Scoobies, on 12/03/2007, -5/+2The page loads like the device is hosting this picture.
- NSResponder, on 12/03/2007, -3/+13The first web server in the USA was set up by Paul Kunz at the Stanford Linear Accelerator Center (SLAC), and surprisingly enough, it ran on an IBM mainframe.
http://www.slac.stanford.edu/history/earlyweb/hist ...
The Bay Area NeXT Group used to meet at the SLAC auditorium, which is where I met Paul.
-jcr- chicagodj, on 12/03/2007, -1/+2wait you mean that the first web server in the world could have been created on an ibm mainframe instead of the next machine meaning that Jobs was just a lucky SOB and in all reality doesn't have anything to do with the creation of the first web server other than selling the hardware? *shock and awe*
- NSResponder, on 12/03/2007, -0/+1No, that's not what I mean at all. The web was made possible by Tim's work on a NeXT computer, on which he wrote the first web browser (WorldWideWeb.app), and the first web server. Paul installed Tim's code on a mainframe, and that was the first web server in the USA. Tim has said on several occasions that the NeXTSTEP development environment was what made his work possible.
-jcr
- NSResponder, on 12/03/2007, -0/+1No, that's not what I mean at all. The web was made possible by Tim's work on a NeXT computer, on which he wrote the first web browser (WorldWideWeb.app), and the first web server. Paul installed Tim's code on a mainframe, and that was the first web server in the USA. Tim has said on several occasions that the NeXTSTEP development environment was what made his work possible.
- aamer, on 12/03/2007, -0/+1That's nice, could I meet a status 200 please?
Your link is dead.
- chicagodj, on 12/03/2007, -1/+2wait you mean that the first web server in the world could have been created on an ibm mainframe instead of the next machine meaning that Jobs was just a lucky SOB and in all reality doesn't have anything to do with the creation of the first web server other than selling the hardware? *shock and awe*
- goleopards1, on 12/03/2007, -6/+4open mouth, insert Steve Job's...you know
- TennisElbow, on 12/03/2007, -9/+4Here's video of Steve Jobs demonstrating the NeXT OS, the operating system that ran the server pictured in this submission.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=j02b8Fuz73A- Acolyte357, on 12/03/2007, -1/+3Don't care
- TennisElbow, on 12/03/2007, -0/+1***** off.
- veeto, on 12/03/2007, -0/+1Thanks for that. I can understand why you're being dugg down, but I really didn't know that much about NextStep. Cheers.
- Acolyte357, on 12/03/2007, -1/+3Don't care
- TennisElbow, on 12/03/2007, -6/+4One more...skip to 7:00 in this old documentary about Steve Jobs for a mention of his connection to Berners-Lee and the early web: http://youtube.com/watch?v=0MwD-TZ6r9Y&feature=rel ...
- aaarrrggghhh, on 12/03/2007, -3/+23Personally I was far more impressed when Steve 'big steaming' Jobs invented the Saturn 5 Rocket and flew to the moon, of course after developing the atomic bomb (which obviously was used against his will while he was running a peace mission in Tibet (anyone else notice Steve looks just like the Dalai Llama?)). His work in the discovery of penicillin is sadly overlooked but luckily he still got the nobel prize for chemistry in 1920. On the 7th day he invented the mac (or was that really woz?). Bloody fanboyz
- kidcodea, on 12/03/2007, -0/+4hey my first isp account was created on a next ;)
tx for the memory flashback :) - thailand1972, on 12/03/2007, -0/+8I was surfing the "net" (i.e. Micronet, Prestel) in 1986 with my ZX Spectrum (via my VTX5000 modem). This is my 21st year online.....
- DealCracker, on 12/03/2007, -5/+8Where's AlGore?
- ninjasenses, on 12/03/2007, -4/+4"steve jobs is the messiah" - apple fanboy
- morriwi, on 12/03/2007, -3/+4Wasn't this a NeXT machine though? There would have been no NeXT without Steve Jobs. Isn't that correct? We don't credit individual designers who developed the ipod, iphone, macbook, etc...so why should this be any different?
- digjam, on 12/03/2007, -2/+8who is steve jobs?
- sqwidget, on 12/03/2007, -1/+2Buried for not mentioning Al Gore:)
- moosebaloney, on 12/03/2007, -7/+2Hold on a tick... I thought Al Gore invented the internet.
- Nac85, on 12/03/2007, -2/+3"The Machine is a server, do not power down!"
That is a very informational sticker/post. -
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