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Center In Washington To Educate On Legal Medical Marijuana
theolympian.com — An Washington man will open a resource center outside Olympia next month for patients who use legal medical marijuana and for those who want to learn more about the medicinal use of cannabis. Jeremy Miller, 36, said he wants to help people navigate through the state's medical marijuana law.
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- Surferess, on 07/08/2008, -1/+13FTA
"Resource Center will provide its members referrals to doctors and lawyers, equipment to grow and use marijuana"
Wow, really? Do you think they mean they are going to give away free bongs, or that they are going to refer you to a head shop?- LightSpeed4, on 07/09/2008, -9/+3Cannabis smoke contains numerous carcinogens. In 2008 a study was released by the Medical Research Institute of New Zealand which showed that smoking cannabis increased the risk of lung cancer by 5.7 times over non-smokers.The 79 person study noted that "In the near future we may see an 'epidemic' of lung cancers connected with this new carcinogen. And the future risk probably applies to many other countries, where increasing use of cannabis among young adults and adolescents is becoming a major public health problem
Tobacco smoking has well-established risks such as bronchitis, coughing, overproduction of mucus, wheezing and addiction. Similar risks for smoking cannabis related to airway inflammation have been suggested in a study of healthy cannabis users who exhibited similar early characteristics to tobacco smoking.
Tobacco smoking has well-established risks such as bronchitis, coughing, overproduction of mucus, wheezing and addiction. Similar risks for smoking cannabis related to airway inflammation have been suggested in a study of healthy cannabis users who exhibited similar early characteristics to tobacco smoking. - VacantThoughts, on 07/09/2008, -2/+3Because their are so many pot related deaths eh LightSpeed?
- solistus, on 07/15/2008, -0/+1LightSpeed: I've never heard of the study you cite, and you neglected to provide a link, but numerous large international studies have found no increased risk of cancer due to cannabis. The fact that your quote mentions this as a "new" carcinogen is kinda strange, given that cannabis use has been widespread in the West for nearly a century and has been pretty widely studied for decades.
Yes, cannabis can cause "risks" like coughing and mucus production. It does NOT cause addiction; the very fact that that claim made the list makes me call BS on your entire post. Addiction is a specific term of art in medical studies that refers to a physiological dependency. Nicotine causes this; THC does not. Psychological dependency is not addiction, and there is no widely accepted causal test for such a subjective thing as dependency. Bronchitis, sure, but that's a treatable bacterial disease and is not particularly serious.
- LightSpeed4, on 07/09/2008, -9/+3Cannabis smoke contains numerous carcinogens. In 2008 a study was released by the Medical Research Institute of New Zealand which showed that smoking cannabis increased the risk of lung cancer by 5.7 times over non-smokers.The 79 person study noted that "In the near future we may see an 'epidemic' of lung cancers connected with this new carcinogen. And the future risk probably applies to many other countries, where increasing use of cannabis among young adults and adolescents is becoming a major public health problem
- urbano35, on 07/08/2008, -3/+7Won't be long till' Walmart offers discounts on Beginner's Home Hemp Kit offering whatever the hell we need to become full blown pot-heads.
- bromac, on 07/09/2008, -1/+3Hemp and pot are two different strains.
While I'm for the legalization of both, I do admit that many people who are against recreational pot use have no issue with industrial hemp ,so I try not to blend the two issues.- Soytaco, on 07/09/2008, -7/+2"Hemp and pot are two different strains."
Do you have any idea what you're talking about? - bromac, on 07/09/2008, -1/+4More than you'll ever know.
Cannabis Sativa has many many different STRAINS. Hemp refers to strains that contain less than 2% THC, and usually are of the "Cannabis Sativa Ruderalis" family, which many advocate should be its own species.
The kind you smoke, Cannabis Sativa Sativa, or Cannabis Sativa Indica, have much higher concentrations of THC and are very very seldom referred to as "hemp".
Only in the USA, where DuPont lobbied to make hemp an "illegal drug" to sell more nylon rope do the strains all get lumped into one species. - deadlift, on 07/09/2008, -1/+3bromac is correct. Soytaco is a dumbass.
- Soytaco, on 07/09/2008, -7/+2"Hemp and pot are two different strains."
- chrisaug18, on 07/09/2008, -0/+2I don't like your tone :P
- m0llusk, on 07/10/2008, -0/+1Good. Liberty is everything.
- bromac, on 07/09/2008, -1/+3Hemp and pot are two different strains.
- mummbleswers, on 07/08/2008, -2/+7We have these in Cali already - Oaksterdam University. Though I'm not sure if it's an accredited school.
http://www.oaksterdamuniversity.com/ - alapoet, on 07/09/2008, -2/+20So many medical marijuana patients who are already legal come to me (because of my online activism) and say "I have my doctor's recommendation, but where do I get my medicine?" or, "I'm very sick with a condition covered under Washington state law, but my doctor is scared to recommend marijuana. What do I do now?"
So I know from personal experience that the need for an educational center like the one in Olympia is very great.
What I'd like to see -- and what I'm sure I WILL see, if I live just a few more years -- are centers like this one in every city in the state.
Kudos to Jeremy Miller for being visionary enough to set up the first one.- mikesbaker, on 07/09/2008, -0/+6I can tell that you and I are going to disagree on a lot of things here on digg - this is not one of them - dugg
- VKMO, on 07/09/2008, -1/+8Patients empowering themselves with knowledge -- both medical and legal -- is a good thing.
- ot1234, on 07/09/2008, -2/+3This is awesome. Now we can blaze in peace.
- LightSpeed4, on 07/09/2008, -14/+1Cannabis smoke contains numerous carcinogens. In 2008 a study was released by the Medical Research Institute of New Zealand which showed that smoking cannabis increased the risk of lung cancer by 5.7 times over non-smokers.The 79 person study noted that "In the near future we may see an 'epidemic' of lung cancers connected with this new carcinogen. And the future risk probably applies to many other countries, where increasing use of cannabis among young adults and adolescents is becoming a major public health problem
Tobacco smoking has well-established risks such as bronchitis, coughing, overproduction of mucus, wheezing and addiction. Similar risks for smoking cannabis related to airway inflammation have been suggested in a study of healthy cannabis users who exhibited similar early characteristics to tobacco smoking.
Tobacco smoking has well-established risks such as bronchitis, coughing, overproduction of mucus, wheezing and addiction. Similar risks for smoking cannabis related to airway inflammation have been suggested in a study of healthy cannabis users who exhibited similar early characteristics to tobacco smoking.- Kamael, on 07/09/2008, -1/+5You know that smoking isn't the only way to consume cannabis, right?
- bromac, on 07/09/2008, -1/+5Then don't smoke it.
You can A) Vapourize it B) Eat it or C) Process it into Hash, removing 95%+ of the plant material that burns and produces smoke (hash mostly vapourizes, as it's almost pure resin).
Just because inhaling SMOKE is bad for you doesn't mean we make campfires or sweetgrass illegal.
Oh, and you're right - cannabis does produce coughing and overproduction of mucus. But this can be beneficial. For example, its a sign that Cannabis doesn't paralyse the cilia in your bronchial tubes, allowing you to remove that mucus by coughing. Cigarettes, on the otherhand, damage this cilia which is why smokers lose their "smokers cough" after a number of years. Smoking cannabis, if you are already a tobacco smoker, helps stimulate the cilia to actually remove the tobacco tar and mucus as well.
Anyways, while the "duh, smoke is not good for your lungs" argument is valid, I disagree with contrasting Tobacco use and Marijuana because the two substances produce totally different tar and effects on the user. - subliminali, on 07/09/2008, -2/+0narc!
btw the code i have to type in to post this comment is (no joke) "GAY2m". - NikoKun, on 07/09/2008, -1/+6Cannabis does not increase risks for cancer... for your one study, there are numerous other studies out there which show it decreases the risk for cancer! And even if it doesn't... Tobacco is STILL far worse, with regards to cancer... than Cannabis is.
On top of that, there has NEVER been a solid link proven, between Cannabis and Cancer, only speculative. And no cases have linked cancer to cannabis smoke alone.
Plus, even though it has carcinogens, a couple in higher amounts than tobacco... The TOTAL number of carcinogens in pot smoke is still LOWER than tobacco.
Fail.
- ot1234, on 07/09/2008, -1/+3Lightspeed, show us ONE single case of a cancer patient due solely to marijuana.
- TheInformer, on 07/09/2008, -4/+1You think marijuana won't cause cancer, If it gets legalized and people smoke it as heavily and often as tobacco?
- thePhallex, on 07/09/2008, -0/+4basically... no, it won't.
where is the proof that it actually does damage? - NikoKun, on 07/09/2008, -1/+6No one smokes Cannabis as much as tobacco... The nature of the drugs are just plain different!
Just because alcohol is legal, doesn't mean people drink it as much as tobacco smokers smoke tobacco. -_-
What the ***** kind of logic was that...? - Lazydriver, on 07/09/2008, -6/+2The simple fact you're breathing IN smoke and that smoke becomes tar and clogs your lungs? I mean, after all, Tobacco comes from the ground too, the difference is the addictiveness, but the deadliness from smoked marijuana is still relatively similar, it's just far less addicting.
- purkel, on 07/09/2008, -5/+2marijuana will probably cause cancer also. theres alot of tar and carcinogens in pot... just like tobacco
- NikoKun, on 07/09/2008, -0/+6The difference is, that while Marijuana smoke might cause you other lung problems... It simply doesn't seem to cause cancer AT ALL...
All your guess work... is pointless, when reality shows otherwise.
This could very well be, because THC and other cannabinoids have been found to have Anti-Cancer properties. Which could possibly counter any cancer causing effects that the smoke might have.
Right now, there is more evidence to support that THC fights cancer, than there is to claim Cannabis smoke causes cancer... -_- Not to mention ZERO cases of lung cancer linked to cannabis smoke. - ptsuk, on 07/09/2008, -3/+1NikoKun ok smarty pants why now show us some proof there friend. Because there are certainly studies to the contrary (which have been posted numerous times in these pro-pot article comments) buddie.
So if you have the short slightness of thinking that A) pot smoke (even vaporized doesn't eliminate the harmful effects just reduces them) isn't as bad or worse than tobacco and B) that people won't use it as much as tobacco now then please keep spewing the bs your perpetuating.
Please you don't think alcohol is used as much as tobacco eh? really?.................really?..............really?
*sigh* - marx2k, on 07/10/2008, -0/+1ptsuk
A) vaporization of marijuana contains no smoke. So how does it cause any harm? Eating it doesn't contain smoke.. how does it cause any harm?
B) People smoke pot today. They obviously don't smoke as much material as they do tobacco. The nature of the drug is to get high and put it down.
- thePhallex, on 07/09/2008, -0/+4basically... no, it won't.
- TheInformer, on 07/09/2008, -4/+1You think marijuana won't cause cancer, If it gets legalized and people smoke it as heavily and often as tobacco?
- TheInformer, on 07/09/2008, -1/+6Maybe there should be a center in Washington DC to educate the populace on the Constitution. It's obvious the government schools aren't doing the job.
- iammzac, on 07/09/2008, -1/+1Good man.
- FearFactory, on 07/09/2008, -2/+1Yes I smoke *****, straight off the roach clip
I roach it roll the blunt at once to approach it
Forward motion make you sway like the ocean
The herb is more than just a powerful potion
What's the commotion, yo I'm not joking around
People learning about, what they're smoking - alapoet, on 07/09/2008, -0/+5There seems to be some confusion among those who haven't read the article.
1 - Medical marijuana is ALREADY legal in Washington and 11 other states. Done deal.
2 - The center in this article is in Olympia, Washington, not Washington, D.C.
When in doubt, read the article. - sixsixsixtimer, on 07/09/2008, -0/+3I applaud such compasionate measures in the realm of medicine.
TheInformer, marijuana is never smoked as heavily and often as tobacco. Are you that ignorant? Try smoking a PACK of marijuana cigarettes. You won't make it past the 8th one! LMAO
As far as the deal with the Constitution, go back to Ron Paul Forums with your troofer bigotry we don't want your kool-aid version of the US Constitution..- thePhallex, on 07/09/2008, -0/+1it's really hard to smoke a pack of marijuana cigarettes...... :)
- ptsuk, on 07/09/2008, -1/+1friend, if you think you have to smoke a pack a day for X number of years to have ill effects of tobacco then by all means keep puffin away buddie.
- VacantThoughts, on 07/09/2008, -0/+1Its also not very good on the wallet
- thePhallex, on 07/09/2008, -0/+1it's really hard to smoke a pack of marijuana cigarettes...... :)
- thePhallex, on 07/09/2008, -0/+4Whoah, right on! I'm from Olympia, WA.
They've always had a open mind regarding pot. I'm totally for this center -- I don't see why people would be against using a natural-growing herb as medicine for only those who qualify for it.
(btw, hilarious to see a 'Daily Olympian' article on Digg)- marx2k, on 07/10/2008, -0/+1My opinion.. as humans, we all qualify to take part in enjoying this natural herb
- Abomonog, on 07/09/2008, -1/+1No one has commented on the punctuation in the summary.
Did all the punctuation Nazis go off and get stoned today?
I like the concept Jeremy has though. Cali needs someone like that. - hurtmetomysoul, on 07/09/2008, -0/+3"An Washington man..."
last i checked, wa wasn't a vowel sound- thePhallex, on 07/09/2008, -0/+2it's cause it started with "An Olympia man..." but nobody knows where the ***** Olympia is. ;)
- bpm2000, on 07/09/2008, -0/+1Guess Rancid isn't popular enough
- thePhallex, on 07/09/2008, -0/+2it's cause it started with "An Olympia man..." but nobody knows where the ***** Olympia is. ;)
- VacantThoughts, on 07/09/2008, -1/+8To all the people bitching about health concerns you should try watching some documentaries or something (or even Super High Me if you want a laugh and information). Their are very few long time smokers that exhibit any actual long term negative effects of smoking marijuana. A lot of people must think pot is like alcohol or they are just normal uninformed people who don't know *****. Alcohol gets you drunk by overloading your system with toxins, Pot gets you high through THC molecules which are picked up by the RECEPTORS THAT WERE ALREADY IN YOUR BRAIN. Even if you don't smoke your brain has the receptors, seems a little weird that something our brain is tuned for is illegal yet something that literally poisons us is legal doesn't it?
- ptsuk, on 07/09/2008, -2/+1"A lot of people must think pot is like alcohol"
friend, um no a lot of people think that pot is like, hmmm oh i dunno maybe another substance that is grown, dried and smoked.............
could it be...............
"tobacco!"
yeah all those people are dying of brain cancer not lung cancer because as you know tobacco and pot only affect your brain because its "atuned" for it as you say buddie.
please do us a favor and stop smoking the product you obviously have had too much of please.- OPR8R, on 07/09/2008, -1/+1Interesting...
Explain how that would be doing you a favor, if you don't mind... - OPR8R, on 07/09/2008, -1/+0You should do a little more research...
Also, please clarify how not smoking (MJ) is going to do anyone a favor. - VacantThoughts, on 07/10/2008, -1/+1The only reason I used alcohol instead of tobacco is that I do not know many people who smoke tobacco for the purpose of getting a buzz. Since after getting a nicotine buzz you have to quit smoking for a while to get another smokers usually smoke either because they are addicted and don't want to feel like they need a smoke all day, or it calms them. Also people usually use the "well I don't do drugs I just drink" defense against pot, and their are still a lot of idiots out their that refuse to believe that alcohol is any worse for them than pot.
"yeah all those people are dying of brain cancer not lung cancer because as you know tobacco and pot only affect your brain because its "atuned" for it as you say buddie."
First off, in that comment I don't see where I said anything good(or bad) about tobacco because I don't smoke nor do I approve, for a fact it is not "good", but who the ***** am I to say who gets to harm themselves and who don't. And your brain does not have receptors to tobacco, you get a buzz from nicotine due to it just getting in your blood stream. And I never said anything about pot only effecting your brain, your brain just processes the THC.
Second, Umm... brain cancer? WTF does that have to do with either pot or tobacco, and look up some studies if you don't believe me about your brains endo-canabonoid receptors. It is true that your brain creates more of these when it is getting a supply of THC but I don't see this as a bad thing if your brain is willingly accepting a substance and even supplying it with more of what it needs to work.
Just to make sure I don't sound to biased, INHALING SMOKE IS BAD FOR YOU. Use a vaporizer to smoke and you get rid of pretty much any risk their is (even though its a pretty insignificant risk in the first place, some people just don't like the idea of inhaling burnt plants).
By the way, do me a favor and don't be a dumb ass/learn to spell/grammar. - ptsuk, on 07/10/2008, -0/+1look friend you might want to do a little more research, a) vaporizing doesn't negate 100% the harmful effects, so your still sucking on poison. b) your comment buddie "And your brain does not have receptors to tobacco, you get a buzz from nicotine due to it just getting in your blood stream." shows exactly how informed you are. Please at least go to wikipedia and look up nicotine and what areas are affected by the body, (hint you might find that the brain is involved)
don't need to spell or use grammar because its obvious that you clearly understood all i typed guy.
i'll not even comment on the other nonsensical stuff you've spewed forth in between the first and last sentence.
then again i could always use the obvious /sarcasm tags if its unclear for you when people are being facetious.
- OPR8R, on 07/09/2008, -1/+1Interesting...
- ptsuk, on 07/09/2008, -2/+1"A lot of people must think pot is like alcohol"
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