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Marijuana Can Cause 'Man Boobs' (and Other Things)

asylum.com — Sorry to be a buzzkill, but smoking pot affects your short- and long-term health. You expect the impaired cognitive function (messed up thoughts), stunted psycho-motor skills (lack of coordination) and sedation (chilling).

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  • Vullkan, on 07/21/2008, -14/+80dugg for the information which I respect, but I can't argue with you.
    messed up thoughts may happen but I don't see any boobs in my chest (hope won't happen (creepy isn't it)).
    and about the sperm thing... Doug Benson did the test after smokin' pot and he had more and faster effective sperms.

    • Vullkan, on 07/21/2008, -4/+17Agree* (too high sorry)
    • salomejones, on 07/22/2008, -6/+25Indeed. The fact is, almost all of the claims in that article have been debunked for years, and the couple that haven't be debunked have also been in no way proven.
    • DrDragun, on 07/22/2008, -2/+63Lower sperm count isn't necessarily a terrible thing. I only want my sperms to be track stars on 2, maybe 3 nights of my entire life. The rest of the time I want them to be nature's little junior varsity team.
      • RudeTurnip, on 07/22/2008, -1/+4Or acrobats.
      • NoCt1, on 07/22/2008, -2/+8Ditto. And must say. that is the greatest comment I have read in a while.
      • MetaMars, on 07/22/2008, -1/+1Marijuana Bonus #1472.
    • kcap122, on 07/22/2008, -10/+5That movie was an incredibly poor excuse for a documentary. About half of the feature's running time is footage of standup comedy (instead of oh, I don't know, medical checkpoints or relevant monologues). It includes almost no footage describing his medical situation, which I had thought would be the whole point of doing a "30 days of pot's effects on the body" documentary.
      Oh and also, Benson is far from an ideal test subject.
      • sandersdamnit, on 07/22/2008, -0/+5you're an incredibly poor excuse for a documentary
      • megadan76, on 07/22/2008, -0/+2I liked the movie, but you are correct.
        But I mean what do expect when potheads think up movies?
    • rentmitchum, on 07/22/2008, -0/+11I'll argue that women have boobs before they smoke pot, which is exactly the kind of argument I'd expect someone high to make.

      Also, fat people.
    • MaynardsTool, on 07/22/2008, -1/+15Marijuana doesn't cause cancer

      http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/artic ...

      Marijuana use and Schizophrenia:

      http://www.schizophrenia.com/prevention/streetdrug ... - Bottom line: If you smoke A LOT pot when you're under 21, AND have a family history of schizophrenia, AND are INCREDIBLY unlucky then you will have an increased risk of developing schizophrenia, or hastening its onset.

      Marijuana use and 'man boobs':

      www.fritolay.com
      www.mountaindew.com
      www.chipotle.com

      Yea, that one's true.
      • cJw314, on 07/22/2008, -3/+7Marijuana doesn't cause cancer... but the tar in your lungs makes the environment more favorable for the development of cancer.

      • f4nt0m4s, on 07/22/2008, -1/+7@cJw314
        so smoke causes cancer...not marijuana
      • DyceFreak, on 07/22/2008, -1/+1actually the smoke from marijuana has never actually been linked to cancer... you might have some ***** in there, but it doesn't seem to have even half the effect of the million-chemical-cigarette smoke.

        I mean have some common sense, its the smoke of an unmodified plant vs the processed machine mixed/rolled stick that no one has any idea what is actually in it.
    • dfsjdkflasjk, on 07/22/2008, -0/+2Sperm is both singular and plural.
    • aron1185, on 07/22/2008, -2/+3I have hard time believing the vast majority of that article.

      Pure BS.
    • WallyAnti, on 07/22/2008, -2/+3"Dr. Ken Spaeth is a physician and Research Fellow at the Harvard School of Public Health."

      Wow, there is just so much confirmation bias in this article I don't know where to begin. He's just cherry picking studies. He doesn't even mention that there are university studies suggesting the contrary of most of his points. I didn't even see any indication of where he's pulling his data... probably because it's mostly originating from his ass.

      Apparently you don't have to be all that ethical to get a job with Harvard.
    • Jozone, on 07/22/2008, -0/+2but Doug Benson already had boobs!
  • h0ser, on 07/21/2008, -20/+166slouching and overeating causes man boobs. I think that is more likely the cause. They also say drinking lots of milk can cause man boobs. The thing is that when it comes to illegal drugs, marijuana is the least harmful. If marijuana was added to the list of legal drugs, it'd still be one of the least harmful. There are much worse side effects from legal drugs like aspirin or even the flu shot. I won't even get into the ill effects from alcohol and tobacco. There are just so many anti marijuana articles spamming digg lately. Why not have more articles about the over consumption of water, or addiction to jogging. (It has been known to harm your heart)

    Any person that wants to know about marijuana and it's side effects will do the research themselves and not rely on an article with no bibliography of sources.
    • bunit03057, on 07/22/2008, -17/+6"Dr. Ken Spaeth is a physician and Research Fellow at the Harvard School of Public Health."

      I think this guy has merits enough not to use a source. And I would like to see your merits and sources for some of the claims you made, like the aspirin and flu shot one.
      Regardless of that, I do agree with you on principle that it should be legalized, but not without people truly being aware of the risks, as they should be with cigarettes.
      • kinneas666, on 07/22/2008, -1/+15Tacking a title at the end of a statement should not imply credibility, because it does not supply accuracy.
        eg. "There are weapons of mass destruction in Iraq", signed The President Of The United States Of America.

        In reality, titles only truly force obligation to the responsibility of the position, which includes appeasing the people who have confered that title upon the recipient. Therefore even if the title owner's personal belief differs from what is expected of him, he is biased towards voicing his opinion dependantly on his accrediting institution. These institutions can have any number of biases of their own, and, in this case, may not even be a scientifically driven body.
        Harvard is a big name, with a lot of clout, and those endorsed by it are expected to "act" a certain way.
        A Republican Senator who personally believes, for example, that gay individuals should have the right to marry, is pressured to vote based on mainstream party lines, and the desires of 51% (or more) of his constituents, in the same way.

        That is why h0ser is advocating decision making based on research alone. This man is influenced by current mainstream social pressure inside the scientific community. His research, on the other hand, is by design, free of bias. It is the civic responsibility of an individual, and in a citizens best personal interest, to vote and to decide on social issues based on precise and accurate scientific fact alone. Not to, for example decide Barack Obama is a terrorist because "I read it on an internet news website, so it must be true."
      • Navicerts, on 07/22/2008, -0/+7Well, you can avoid the lung damage by taking it in other ways. Aside from the lung damage + cancer due to lung damage the rap sheet isn't that bad.
      • kinneas666, on 07/22/2008, -1/+14Also worth mentioning:
        Harvard Medical Department's website does not turn up any results for a "Ken Spaeth ".
        A google search only turns up about 20 results for "Dr. Ken Spaeth ", and almost all of them are from Aslyum.com, The rest are related to a nature conservatory/wildlife management theme, which i'm assuming may be a different Ken Spaeth.

        OH and he isn't listed as a fellow on the Harvard School of Public Health wesbite, WHAT A JOKE, WHO IS THIS GUY.
      • bunit03057, on 07/22/2008, -2/+2How high are you right now?
        "In reality, titles only truly force obligation to the responsibility of the position"
        That's something my buddies and I would say after smoking a few bowls.
        A title such as physician is an indication of his many years of med school. The research backs up most of what this physician says if you care to look into it.
        h0ser has no research to back up his asinine statements such as aspirin being more detrimental than marijuana.
      • ninepointfive, on 07/22/2008, -0/+3Co Author of the Bioterrorism Sourcebook? Sounds nefarious at best.


        Bunit: He cites no actual sources. Sure, smoking bad.... but seriously he just pulls the rest of this tripe from his ass and presents it as a fact.
      • NoCt1, on 07/22/2008, -1/+3Burnit, If you read the back of an asprin bottle it will tell you all the bad things that can happen. Is that a good enough source?
      • bunit03057, on 07/22/2008, -0/+4Alright, I'll concede, Kenneth is an idiot he has no idea what he is talking about, nor do most in the medical profession. There are no side effect from smoking marijuana, besides impeccable debating skills and an insatiable apatite for Doritos. Legalize it!
      • kinneas666, on 07/22/2008, -0/+5First. I think if I were high I would be fired, seeing as how i'm at work and we have mandatory drug testing, the lab type, not the spoofable parole swab type.

        Second, physician is a career joice, and is a title in-as-much as describing his field of study. So you were unable to indentify the thesis of my argument (How high are you right now?).

        The title I am refering to is "Harvard Fellow". A general practioner typically would not have governing body he is responsible to comply with, meaning less bias. However, because he is using his position as a "Harvard Fellow", (which if you will read my above second post, is seeming very unlikely he even is one) to add the credibility of the Harvard institution to his statements, he is required to respond to those questions in an "official" way. Which we see disclaimers on statements about every day, eg. "this by no way reflects the opinion of blah blah blah and is the sole opinion of the author"

        I don't know about aspirin but, I can say one way Ibuprofen is more detrimental than marijuana.
        It is a notorious blood thinner, and its use is even prohibited up to 10 days before surgeries, because complications can occur, even resulting in death.

        If marijuana can, according to the author, make more prone to the risk of an "accident", then ibuprofen can increase an accident's chance of causing a fatality.

        This guy is an idiot, and if he did go to Harvard, then shame on them for letting some tool like this get a highly esteemed education.
    • akash8m, on 07/22/2008, -3/+5What if they abused Marijuana, I think that might cause the problem also I think.
      • mllawso, on 07/22/2008, -1/+1I agree: the key word here is "abuse." Over consume anything (including water) and you can expect issues with your health.
    • bunit03057, on 07/22/2008, -0/+5kinneas666 this is the same guy from the Harvard website.
      http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/erc/HANDBOOKSECURE/who ...
      KENNETH R. SPAETH, MD, MPH, MOH
      MOH 07 | Advisor: Dr Hauser

      http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/departments/environmen ...
      Considerations of Acute and Chronic Effects of Chlorine Gas Exposure
      November 9, 2007 12:30-1:20PM
      Kresge Building, Room 502
      Kenneth Spaeth and Karen Huyck
      • picadillo08, on 07/23/2008, -0/+1good find!! also, from the Harvard School of Public Health Website

        Occupational Health Issues and Considerations for Laboratories Handling Pathogens (Biosafety Levels I-IV)
        Kenneth R. Spaeth and Thomas H. Winters

        ERC Grand Rounds: Dyspnea in a 30 Year Old Mason

        Kenneth R. Spaeth and William S. Beckett

        http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/departments/environmen ...

        He also seems to have written a couple of medical textbooks, is cited in the new york times, and helped write guidelines for treating those with WTC related health problems as a result of exposures from 9/11
    • TheUngod, on 07/22/2008, -2/+5While I agree with you, and think marijuana should be legal, your argument is poor. Saying it has less harmful side effects than some other legal things is not a great argument. Focus on the positives and not the negatives, or lack thereof.
      • schroeder, on 07/22/2008, -1/+5Almost everything your body takes in has the potential for negative side effects. Too much soy can damage your thyroid. Too much red meat increases risk of heart disease. The argument about pot having less serious side effects than other legal drugs just shows that it's classification as a dangerous narcotic is uncalled for. The positives include pain relief, appetite enhancement, stress relief and use as a sleep aid. Most of the negatives can be negated by ingesting it in ways other than smoking.
    • Shenanigans, on 07/22/2008, -4/+7You hardly address the potential problems of marijuana but your argument is just, "Well, it's not as bad as xxxxxx." The fact that there are worse things should never warrant anything.
    • cmar618, on 07/22/2008, -0/+4I'm not sure slouching causes man boobs. Overeating definitely does and milk may contribute, but slouching?
      • beerock, on 07/22/2008, -2/+2yes, it does.
        you slouch, therefore the muscles in your back are in atrophy, letting go of the muscles in your chest, resulting in sloppy man boobs.
        Pot does not cause man-boobs, weak core strength and being useless and lazy are the major contributors.

        "You're born weak and scrawny, you're going to die weak and scrawny; what you look like in between is up to you."
    • cam0man, on 07/22/2008, -0/+4This article is addressing manboobs from a hormonal level, not referencing high body fat %'s. There has been evidence that marijuana serves as a DHT inhibitor which would be blocking testerone, and also fighting baldness.

      The same can be said for lots of common food products though, this isn't a radical side effect. Eating too much turkey, soy, or pumpkin seeds could cause manboobs as well.
    • EZ2ENVY, on 07/22/2008, -3/+0man my buddy has huge man boobs and all he does is smoke weed, hes not fat, and doesnt slouch or eat alot, and we have always tried to figure out why hhe has boobs bigger then his girlfriend!!!!!!
      • schroeder, on 07/22/2008, -1/+2I have a friend who never touched pot in his life and has had ***** since he was a kid.
      • OMnicient, on 07/23/2008, -0/+0Lavender.
    • aelias, on 07/22/2008, -1/+2I saw an ad for an arthritis/joint pain medication that had ***** Lymphoma listed as a possible side effect. WTF?? How could the FDA approve a drug that has even a stupidly remote chance that someone could get cancer from it. Did they learn nothing from ciggarettes?

      • Mpwns, on 07/22/2008, -0/+2when i used to watch tv, i remember an ad saying death can happen rare cases for a drug. so now i wonder how many people can die from a drug and still take it to market.
    • friedclyde, on 07/23/2008, -0/+1milk is because of estrogen they inject into cows to produce more milk, the female hormone gets carried into the milk and is passed on into our bodies. too much female hormone in a man gets man boobs

      i really wonder how people can belive fools like so called doctor ken

      Anywone who smokes the herb knows of its mystical properties and its abilities. You tend to see through barriers and the f'ed up system the gov runs, which is why they don't want us to smoke!
  • CrudeDarkness, on 07/21/2008, -29/+11I like how the two previous comments use their unarguable sources to refute the claims in the article, which was written by a doctor.
    • wynja, on 07/21/2008, -7/+24Right, because the doctor used unarguable sources to make his case. I didn't see any source quotes. I didn't see any case studies being touted. I saw a doctor voicing his opinion about a subject that I'm sure he's not even a doctor in.
      • CrudeDarkness, on 07/21/2008, -17/+4Next time when you go to make a check up, ask the doctor for unarguable sources to back up his claims.
      • kinneas666, on 07/22/2008, -2/+13I do, except I find sources and do research on my own, it's called being a responsible health consumer. In general it's encouraged.
  • wynja, on 07/21/2008, -26/+71Digg has become overrun with BS. This site is going down the crapper.
    • ZZeke, on 07/21/2008, -6/+15"going"?
      This site IS the "crapper" of the internet...don't tell me - you lament for the days when it was a "tech site", right?
      Those days were very short-lived, gone long before I ever logged in....
      Digg is the dumping ground for anything and everything on the internet, the more popular it gets, the more LCD it gets. Get over it.
      • sodade, on 07/22/2008, -6/+4You want tech? Go to Slashdot.
      • LiberalsSuckAss, on 07/22/2008, -4/+7I defected from slashdot because it was overrun with Linux fanboys and Windows haters.

        Believe it or not, there was a day when Digg was a great site. Its tech articles were informative and objective, and things didn't hit the front page simply because they were anti-windows or pro-apple.

        I wish someone would come along and reinvent this wheel.
      • triad203, on 07/22/2008, -0/+1@ZZeke: You've never been to /b/, have you?
    • graciouspatty, on 07/22/2008, -5/+6to wynja:
      just because you don't like the article? hits a little too close to home I'm guessing?
    • cheesenuggets1, on 07/22/2008, -3/+8I'm not gonna spend time trying to debunk everything here save for one: cancer.

      Want proof? How about a recent study saying that marijuana can help CURE cancer:
      http://blog.norml.org/2008/07/17/so-what-if-pot-ca ...

      Dr. Ken Spaeth is full of *****. ***** buried.
    • toasterweasel, on 07/22/2008, -0/+3I totally agree. We have here another "gem" submission from one of our digg overlords. Of course when you point this out to them they enjoy to mock us who can't get articles to the front page. It really does hurt when you have something new or different or interesting or intelligent to post and it will never be seen here cause crap like this clutters the front page. Just take a look from time to time and you will see the same few names over and over and over again.
    • AyaJulia, on 07/22/2008, -2/+1Stop reading it, then?
  • imacommi, on 07/21/2008, -9/+34Oh yeah!? Prove it!
    • bunit03057, on 07/22/2008, -8/+2I don't have access to pubmed right now but if you do.
      Search "Gynecomastia marijuana" at http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/

      http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8094898?ordinal ...
      Oh damn it's a .gov site, sorry it's filled with propaganda.
      • salomejones, on 07/22/2008, -1/+8Did you actually read what's behind the link you posted?

        "and data for marijuana are contradictory"

        That means it's inconclusive, and in no way proven one way or the other. Look at me, a decades-long pothead who can still manage to read for comprehension.

    • ChronicColonic, on 07/22/2008, -2/+3I don't know, but you have some really nice *****...
  • floatingorb, on 07/21/2008, -14/+53Dear Dr. Ken,
    I, in common with a lot of other people my age, am 40. I was an unwilling subject in the new DARE program in 5th grade. I did not know what 'grass' was before that exept that I knew that dad had a lot of it in the yard that I had to mow every week and I didn't understand why that should make us criminals. When they told us about the 'man boobs' then I started to pay attention and, as a transgendered individual, began smoking massive quantities of the stuff (sometimes a ton a week) with the hope of finally appearing more like my inner self. -- Needless to say, I was sorely disappointed with the non-results and that became the time when I started to *question* authority and hate my government and their lies.

    respectfully,
    floatingorb (mrs.)

    ps "skull bong": that is why I dug up Reagan (and this article) and poke smot out of his skull regularly with all my friends. It's effective and satisfying what with all the carbuerator holes of choice, and all. And it's kind of a fitting fate for the stupid neocon bastard as that is what they did with Geronimo's skull at Yale. (Nancy's skull is full of lead, and not safe for smoking out of -- just leave it in the ground.)
    • seraph582, on 07/22/2008, -8/+2I don't see how liberals can talk down Reagan with the current administration in power. Reagan was more like Clinton than Bush, policy-wise, and was far more honest than either to boot. Plus - there's definitely worse: Carter was definitely not as good a president as he was an ex-president, and it's not because of all that globetrotting Jane-Fonda-ing he's been doing.
    • WilliamDavis, on 07/22/2008, -1/+10I had a good house and a happy home, until school convinced me to turn in my parents for marijuana use. After that my brothers and sisters and I spent years in foster care, where several of them were abused. They hate me, and even my mother doesn't like me much. The police were friendly to me for awhile, but they were no help after after the confication fiasco.
      • OMnicient, on 07/23/2008, -0/+0Hi, Billy.

        You must know Stephen Carey, from Massachusetts.
    • Swarms, on 07/22/2008, -1/+10"I, in common with a lot of other people my age, am 40."
      You're 40, and other people who are 40, are 40. Go on.
      • Lucas123, on 07/22/2008, -1/+3Obviously, smoking way too much pot.
      • floatingorb, on 07/22/2008, -0/+1Wow! I didn't think anyone would get that.
  • ZZeke, on 07/21/2008, -9/+45I think it's sitting on your ass all day watching TV/internet and eating junk food which gives you "man-boobs", not smoking pot...
    Now pass the doritos, Judge Judy's coming on! *exhales*
    • Puffles, on 07/22/2008, -3/+4Judge Judy is probably ***** HILARIOUS when you're high.
    • GodsDragon, on 07/22/2008, -1/+4Well smoking pot is known to give you the munchies so I guess its credible is a backwards sort of way.
    • adrenalmedulla9, on 07/22/2008, -2/+1Rofl, he lists so many health concerns and all you Diggers care about is the ***** manboobs!
      • ZZeke, on 07/22/2008, -0/+1Please, I've known so many people who smoke pot their whole lives and aren't any worse off than people who didn't ... I think the whole point of this post was to highlight the absurdity of "man-boobs" being a side-effect...which is completely ridiculous.
  • ProjectGSX, on 07/21/2008, -6/+47Man boobs has got to be one of the best anti-pot messages Ive ever heard. Thats the ***** they need to be putting in the afterschool commercials.
    • Rabbit63, on 07/22/2008, -0/+22Not at all. The problem with those school anti-pot messages is that they already have too many lies and exaggeration. The moment kids learn they are being ***** to they lose all interest in the rest of the message.
      • Adamlite, on 07/22/2008, -1/+11I have no problem with that. I grew up in the culture of "this is your brain. this is your brain on drugs. any questions?" and DARE *****. I figured out I was being mislead. The reason for the lies and exaggerations? Marijuana is innocuous, so its opponents need to demonize it.

        Plus, now anti-drug commercials are hilarious, pro-pot fodder for ridiculing and laughing at while you're high.
      • wtfpwned98, on 07/22/2008, -3/+2case in point: Adamlite

        It's not "innocuous," but he concluded that it is because he knows he's been *****.
      • BoneheadFarker, on 07/22/2008, -1/+6@wtfpwned98

        When compared to alcohol, tobacco, Adderall, Ritalin, Vicodan, Oxycodine, Tylenol 3 with Codeine, or even plain old ***** caffiene...it is innocuous. But it's treated as if it's worse than cocaine and heroin. Explain that.
      • Adamlite, on 07/24/2008, -0/+1For posterity, I'll clarify my position: Marijuana is less harmful than most of the substances listed above by BoneheadFarker, and decidedly not more harmful than any single one of them. Using marijuana certainly carries its own risks, but in the face of many other readily-available, legal substances, the associated negatives are minimal.

        I figured out I was being ***** in high school and then expanded my knowledge base through rigorous application of the scientific method in college. To this day I'm still learning.
    • ingxia, on 07/22/2008, -0/+6kids will assume the corollary that men with man boobs smoke pot; which in my experience is untrue, or at least they don't sell pot.
      • WilliamDavis, on 07/22/2008, -0/+3If they're willing to demonize pot at the expense of cancer patients, I don't think they care about a few angry guys with man boobs.
    • lewhich, on 07/22/2008, -0/+14Then girls who want bigger boobs will all start smoking pot
    • Andrwmorph, on 07/22/2008, -0/+2Their only argument now seems to be that you aren't "making your own choices" when you smoke.
  • KnockoutNerd, on 07/21/2008, -6/+19I smoke (usually) everyday and I don't have anything resembling man boobs but I also love lifting weights so that could be why, but I have friends who sit around doing nothing but smoking and they are also don't have boobs. The only way I see pot giving someone man boobs is if they are incredibly lazy and eat a ***** load of un-healthy food. Also my interest in sex has never been higher but all the other things they talked about are true and I have no problem with them, just don't bull ***** and say they cause man boobs.
    • floatingorb, on 07/22/2008, -2/+4I will never "bull *****" and accuse your lazy friends of giving me *man boobs*. I Promise.
    • Shenanigans, on 07/22/2008, -1/+4The article talks about LONG-TERM effects. You wouldn't see anything prominent in 17 year-olds. This also explains your normal interest in sex.
      • BoneheadFarker, on 07/22/2008, -0/+4I'm 29, and have been smoking daily for the last 8 years. But I had man-boobs before I started smoking. They went away when I lost weight, but came back when I started working in an office again. I'm going to say that the link between man-boobs and marijuana is probably *****.
  • narcofiche, on 07/22/2008, -10/+66I know it's all 'funny business' when he says 'man boobs,' but this article is anything but. It's funny how he starts off the article by saying his roommate accused him of 'dropping propaganda' when that's exactly what he's doing in this article.

    If you're a frequent smoker like myself, buy a vaporizer (you can get a great Vapor Brothers one for pretty cheap these days). Doing that will eliminate nearly all of the dangers he is listing. Waking n' baking is alright, but a couple hits usually does the trick - otherwise you'll have another one of those '*****, where did my day go?' moments. You can generally tell the difference between an article that genuinely cares about your health and an article that is just trying to spread propaganda - mostly because he offers NO alternatives to smoking.

    Marijuana is great, but like everything in life, moderation is key.
    • zizzathustra, on 07/22/2008, -2/+2Try not to use a vaporizer with a metal heating element as you will breathe in metal ions with the vapor. Use ceramic instead - like this one - http://wickedroots.com/Vaporizers/Digital-Vaporize ... . if you grind your substance well enough, you will save all of your money back. my supply lasts more than 5x as long this way.
      • itsthebrod, on 07/22/2008, -0/+5How exactly does one breath in "metal ions" from metal heating up? Cite?
    • burjzyntski, on 07/22/2008, -3/+2I made a vape out of a lightbulb...
      It conserves pot, tastes better, is a healthier alternative to hitting a joint/bong/pipe, and it doesn't give me moobs.
    • almightyobo, on 07/22/2008, -0/+2"Marijuana is great, but like everything in life, moderation is key"


      couldnt have said it better my self, thumbs up!
  • Rabbit63, on 07/22/2008, -13/+36What rubbish. I've been smoking copious amounts of pot daily for twenty five years and am a bit unfit and overweight from lack of exercise lately but my health is ROBUST I have not even had a cold or flu in twenty years and my sperm count is exceptionally high to this day. As for my mind and memory, age has taken its toll on my memory and if my mind was any sharper I don't think I could cope. As it is surrounded by morons and halfwits I feel like a mental giant among pygmies much of the time.

    Moderation is the key and I don't advocate everyone smoke as much as me. I smoke too much really but at least i have a personality which is so energetic and dynamic normally that the result is just making me bearable to people..
    • FishHammer, on 07/22/2008, -6/+10most potheads do believe they're smarter and sharper than everyone else, but it's all in their head.
      • crazy0, on 07/22/2008, -4/+0meh, so i take it your a pothead then, speak for yourself...
      • booboolean, on 07/22/2008, -1/+5It's all in their head? THEIR head? Well, if they all truly, as you seem to suggest, possess one collective cranium, then I should think that they are smarter and sharper than anyone. Certainly quite a bit smarter and sharper than you (for what that's worth).
      • MalenfantX, on 07/22/2008, -1/+1maybe they self-medicate to dumb down enough to deal with fishhammer
  • NikoKun, on 07/22/2008, -16/+55Buried for inaccurate unsupportable *****...
    • ScrollMaker, on 07/22/2008, -1/+2It is. I know this is too late to be seen now, but the reefer madness studies that made up stuff like man-boobs all FAILED PEER REVIEW. Studies have not shown this to be the case. This "doctor" also just copypasta from some bs medical source.
  • AnotherDiggGuy, on 07/22/2008, -11/+19Eh, this looks pretty made up by someone who holds a grudge against the cool kids in high school who didn't invite them to a party where everyone got high and laid.
  • diggenerate, on 07/22/2008, -12/+13They also tell us that use of marijuana leads to short ter.....what was I talking about again?
  • Skidmark66, on 07/22/2008, -12/+19Marijuana is a gateway drug, yeah, it's the gateway to the munchies, hearing music in a new way and fun cool times, lemme in that GATE !
    • kokoshka, on 07/22/2008, -0/+2It's a gateway drug because it puts you in contact with people that have access to harder drugs. Legalize and that problem disappears.
      • Skidmark66, on 07/23/2008, -0/+2IF people are going to start shooting up for the flimsy reason, that they met someone who shoots up, they are going to shoot up anyways.

        that whole 'gateway' thing is *****, i mean alcohol and cigarettes should be classified as 'gateways' then.

        legalizing pot will still have it's problems, because people have 'the human condition', and people will be people, immaculate, flawed, beautiful, adventitious in all our glory :)

        (yeah i'm stoned)
  • TexasCanuck, on 07/22/2008, -5/+37Buried for harshing my mellow.
  • PeckerSlap, on 07/22/2008, -7/+13*****. doesn't take a month to recover, this isnt meth ffs
  • Lucas123, on 07/22/2008, -17/+3Pot turns you into a couch potato slob with diminished brain cells. So where's the news?
    • Lapdog1123, on 07/22/2008, -0/+6I work in a High tech industry as a network engineer. I have a house drive a nice car, and with help from my wife, I have raised my kids to be respectful members of society. I also happen to smoke pot at least five out of seven days a week.

      What about me?
      • usafdave, on 07/22/2008, -0/+2You have all of these things and are an integral member of an organized and governed society, enjoying all the perks of a civilized and orderly culture......................... with an 'ANARCHY' symbol as your digg icon.

        I guess you're a big contradiction. Like your statement.
    • MalenfantX, on 07/22/2008, -0/+0Maybe you were always like that Lucas123. The pot just gave you something to blame other than your own laziness.
  • GorfTron, on 07/22/2008, -6/+38Alcohol leads to violence and fatal accidents. Pot leads to munchies and Aqua Teen Hunger Force marathons.
    • AngryAngryBrian, on 07/22/2008, -12/+1Substituting one problem with another. I don't think any of this crap should be illegal, you make your own mistakes. Marijuana is not necessary for the average person neither is alcohol. They should be embraced for anything other than their true medical uses. If you don't have a legitimate medical need for it, you shouldn't be taking it.

      I am ready to be dugg down.
      • apetrie, on 07/22/2008, -0/+2I was tempted to digg you down, but the fact that you recognize its an individuals choice and it shouldn't be illegal made me think twice.

        I do think you're wrong about the valid reasons to smoke as many, many things that we enjoy in modern times are not necessary for the average person, or anyone at all. For example while we may eat because we have to, we also eat because we enjoy it. Much like marijuana, it should be done in moderation or it adversely affects your health. The only "necessary" food is that which meets our basic nutritional requirements. Flavour, texture, satisfaction, even the buzz we can get from eating some things are completely unnecessary yet we think of them as important because they contribute to our overall experience and happiness.

        Unless you lead some kind of minimalist lifestyle where you only consume goods (food, entertainment, etc.) that are absolutely necessary for your survival, I don't think you are really in a position to claim people should never use anything just because they want to.
      • BoneheadFarker, on 07/22/2008, -0/+1Somehow, I don't find munchies and ATHF marathons to be a problem. In fact, I think I'd be doing that without the pot too.
      • itsthebrod, on 07/22/2008, -1/+2Who said something has to be "necessary" for it to be "fun"? "Amusement parks are not necessary for the average person." Well that's a true story, but who amusement parks exist and are frequented by many looking for a good time. Your argument sucks.
    • slimflashjoe73, on 07/22/2008, -0/+1It's so true...
    • leodavinci, on 07/22/2008, -0/+2I said the exact same thing in the end of my talk on marijuana for speech class in college. The teacher was mortified, the students cracked up :D
  • TexanRudeBoy, on 07/22/2008, -4/+15Let me state the obvious in a much shorter form:

    Moderation
  • Bodhinature, on 07/22/2008, -4/+13In other words, smoking tobacco and drinking booze should also be illegal? Or, maybe maybe pot should be legal because it doesn't look like its any worse than cigarettes or booze.
  • MedicDave29, on 07/22/2008, -2/+15There's big money made in lobbying the government to maintain its marijuana prohibition. I've done a 180 on my own opinion concerning the failed and frankly foolish war on drugs.
  • Meyithi, on 07/22/2008, -6/+13Leaving the house can lead to buggary!

    By being outside, there is a chance that you may be accosted and buggared by a gang of horny teenagers.

    However, going outside is generally a safe activity, but the more you go out the greater the risks!
  • sickb13, on 07/22/2008, -5/+51blow me. I smoke weed every day. I'm an engineer, I'm in peak physical condition (gym 5 days a week for 7+ years), I train to fight MMA (hard to do with "lack of coordination", and the only "messed up thoughts" I have are that I could go to jail for smoking the best god damn natural anti anxiety medication in existence.

    Why don't you go make a ***** post about how Rx drugs make you ***** blood, die instantly, or make you go blind, to name a few.
    • Albear89, on 07/22/2008, -0/+2the man has a point. what about the flipper babies?
    • aelias, on 07/22/2008, -0/+3Don't they drug test for MMA fights?
      • sickb13, on 07/22/2008, -1/+1Yeah they do. Fights are scheduled long in advance.
    • diggenerate, on 07/23/2008, -0/+1No *****, I always laugh when I see a Rx Drug commercials on TV, at the end there is always some dude speaking faster than I thought humanly possible telling me that this drug will prevent herpes outbrakes but might give me liver cancer or kill me. gotta get me some o' that *****.
  • kevdotbadger, on 07/22/2008, -2/+4My man-boobs are going after doing a 5 mile bike ride everyday.
  • highps3, on 07/22/2008, -2/+5I'd really like to see what test were conducted and who they were conducted on to obtain those results. What a buzz kill!
  • ThePaleHunter, on 07/22/2008, -3/+11Did you know that if you drink enough water you'll explode?
  • salomejones, on 07/22/2008, -5/+15Wow, almost every one of those claims is actually false and have been debunked for a number years. Way to do the research.
  • grungegbunny, on 07/22/2008, -4/+5These sound like common sense symptoms from smoking weed but the real science research debunks these. Studies show no serious long term effects, no link what so ever to any cancer etc. The only half truth this article has is the breathing problems that researchers call a 'chronic cough' but thats the extent of that symptom. Good thing is if you eat your herb instead of smoking it you remove that symptom. So what are you left with?
  • orlyfactor, on 07/22/2008, -6/+6I smoke up almost every day, and yet I spend 1-2 hours at the gym most days as well, so no man boobs here. Also, this article is ***** old.
  • joemofo214, on 07/22/2008, -2/+4Close to everything that is unhealthy (cokes, cheetos, late night visits to ihop) can cause man boobs. People just have to learn self control. But people seem to love to things in excess.

    Oh yea, cokes, cheetos, and those visits to ihop are a faster way to get them boobies than smoking marijuana.
  • scotishstriker, on 07/22/2008, -5/+14Lies put out by the MAN
  • ky420, on 07/22/2008, -5/+9This is completely ridiculous I smoke pot at least 7 times per day and have no ***** or ill effects from it. Other than dry eyes and the munchies there are no ill effects people need to stop posting these stupid lies. Ignorance like this is the main reason the government outlawed it in the first place. Marijuana is a blessing god put here for us to enjoy if you dont wanna smoke then I respect that but dont try to punish everyone else cause you are stuck in the last half of the century.
  • Lunares, on 07/22/2008, -9/+1I think pot should be legal (because it is less negative than cigarettes, comparable to alcohol in effects).

    Still think doing it is stupid. Can you do it with no ill effects? Of course. But you still could get the ill effects. There are much less riskier ways to enjoy life than smoking pot or get drinking 3-5 times a week. So do it if you want, hopefully you will turn out alright with it, I will still probably look down at your for doing it.

    Now if you treat it like alcohol in moderation (aka maybe 1-2 times a month at parties, at most) then it would be more okay. Especially when you are out in the real world with a job, you have responsibilities then and shouldn't be partying more than that anyways.

    all those effects listed are merely possibles as well. They all exist and have been linked to pot, but is hard to tell when it will happen.
    • ninepointfive, on 07/22/2008, -0/+1
      So you're posting your blatant hypocrisy while dissing pot? wow
    • realillusions, on 07/22/2008, -0/+0Oh so it's all the get drinking I've been doing that's the problem. Thanks for clearing that up!
  • mhunter2, on 07/22/2008, -6/+6Buried.
  • MWeather, on 07/22/2008, -6/+38Fact: Marijuana lowers testosterone. Fact: Lower testosterone can lead to breast growth in men. Fact: Marijuana causes breast growth in men.

    Fact: Jogging increases heart rate. Fact: Increased heart rate can cause heart attacks. Fact: Jogging causes heart attacks.
  • f4nt0m4s, on 07/22/2008, -3/+9Most of these negative effects can be avoided if you vaporize or bake marijuana rather than smoking it. So, the reality is "smoking is bad" not "smoking marijuana is bad."

    Dependency is not addiction, and it has been pretty much proven that marijuana is not addictive. At the very least, some people have an addiction gene and are prone to addiction, again not marijuana's fault.

    "increased risk of schizophrenia, though not necessarily caused by it"
    Okay, so mildly discerning point number 1. Further study might find that certain people with preceding mental dispositions might be susceptible to mental disorders if they take psychoactive substances, I fail to see how this is a legitimate risk.

    As for memory, it rebounds quickly once you quit smoking.

    The reports of depression during withdrawal are accurate. So yeah, that sucks. But consider Caffeine or Nicotine withdrawal, two legal substances with pretty substantial withdrawals. I don't see people complaining about that.

    How many kids in their late teens or 20s care about sperm count? Exactly, not many. And trust me, 20 year old kids won't lose their sex drive from smoking a little pot.

    "The biggest health risk from smoking pot once or twice is an accidental injury. ***Otherwise, it's not likely to result in a major health problem.*** Increased use, however, leads to increased risk."

    At least the article ends on an honest note. I don't smoke, but I don't have any disrespect for those who do. I'd be a hypocrite to shun someone who wants to get high when I go out and get drunk on weekends.

    But seriously, ***** this propaganda BS. Marijuana is a pretty harmless drug, especially in moderation.
  • fakeXsound, on 07/22/2008, -1/+3Just don't touch em. Resin might come out.
  • DirtySyko, on 07/22/2008, -2/+11Cancer, mental health, breathing problems and man boobs. Sure sounds a lot like the same symptoms you get from eating McDonalds, and last I checked they haven't outlawed McChickens.
  • Abomonog, on 07/22/2008, -6/+6Buried. This story is complete *****.
  • TomT223, on 07/22/2008, -2/+10Guess I'm going bra shopping tomorrow.
    • TrevorBelmont, on 07/22/2008, -0/+1I like to offset the breast enlarging effects of marijuana with copious amounts of cocaine. It's the thinking man's solution!
      -Doctor Trevor
  • Joomal, on 07/22/2008, -3/+5"Man-Boobs" are a direct effect of lower testosterone levels in the body due to the chemicals being ingested.

    This also happens with alcohol consumption as alcohol promotes estrogen levels and decreases testosterone levels. This is one reason you'll never see a serious powerlifter or bodybuilder drinking alcohol in great amounts, or even any for that matter if they are really serious.

    Testosterone = muscle growth. Estrogen = promotes fat stores.

    j


  • prizim, on 07/22/2008, -6/+10buried for *****.
  • Listor, on 07/22/2008, -4/+7Lack of coordination?? Take a look at a ton of kick ass gamers also happen to be stoners.
  • Vbp6us, on 07/22/2008, -7/+7Complete and utter *****. BURIED.
  • tava0002, on 07/22/2008, -2/+10I prefer the term moobs.
  • kinneas666, on 07/22/2008, -3/+14Worth Mentioning:
    Harvard Medical Department's website does not turn up any results for a "Ken Spaeth ".
    A google search only turns up about 20 results for "Dr. Ken Spaeth ", and almost all of them are from Aslyum.com, The rest are related to a nature conservatory/wildlife management theme, which i'm assuming may be a different Ken Spaeth.

    OH and he isn't listed as a fellow on the Harvard School of Public Health wesbite, WHAT A JOKE, WHO IS THIS GUY?
  • jayyyycubtr33s, on 07/22/2008, -6/+0have those people ever heard of the movie super high me?
    and loss of intrest in sex!?!
    thats the biggest bunch of ***** ive ever heard.
    i love pwnin poon
  • galvo, on 07/22/2008, -7/+3Ronald Reagan FTL!
  • waydee, on 07/22/2008, -5/+6Being fat causes man boobs.
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