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New Research Shows Magic Mushrooms Good for You

experienceproject.com — The report showed that most subjects who took the mushrooms were still behaving and feeling better 14 months after ingestion. About 66% also noted that the drug caused one of the 5 most spiritual experiences of their life.

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  • akey, on 07/01/2008, -1/+12the video at the bottom with Tim Leary is trippy, no pun intended. The guy is permanently spaced out, but still incredibly sharp in responding to the pretty vicious attacks from Linkletter.
    • Spudster, on 07/03/2008, -0/+4Turn on, tune in, drop out.
    • humanerror, on 07/03/2008, -0/+3Well after watching that clip, I now understand why old people watch FOX News. Apparently it's what they're used to.
      • faatbuddha, on 07/03/2008, -0/+1Jesus Christ, I know, right?
        That host is the 70's embodiment of WE'LL DO IT LIVE!! O'Reilly.
    • mattlohkamp, on 07/03/2008, -0/+3Why do we have Leary talking about LSD when the article is about mushrooms? I mean, beyond the obvious fact that they're both hallucinogens?
    • faxxy, on 07/03/2008, -1/+3The video (Art Linkletter condemning and blaming LSD for the death of his daughter) is totally misplaced and, in context of this article, propagandist.
    • geminister, on 07/08/2008, -0/+0Timothy Leary WAS permanently spaced out. He passed away 31th of May 1996. And regarding that video, Linkletter is obviously a troll so I do understand why Leary didn't take it seriously - even back then people knew not to feed the troll.
  • trevorleenc, on 07/01/2008, -15/+5Great article! Thanks for the shout!
  • vasconcj, on 07/01/2008, -13/+3great post
  • jazumin80, on 07/01/2008, -9/+2I don't think I would be brave enough to try it, but it makes me curious. How trippy!?! Haha ;)
  • vasconcj, on 07/01/2008, -4/+7you guys think this works? Anyone out there have any experience?
    • starstuck, on 07/01/2008, -1/+2I don't know about any health benefits but I am sure they must be better for you than man made drugs. I do know that they taste terrible and the best place to pick them is right out of the cow poop where they grow in Micanopy Florida and don't eat them while you are still in the field. Oh happy day!
      • brundlefly76, on 07/03/2008, -0/+2"I don't know about any health benefits but I am sure they must be better for you than man made drugs."

        --->>>"Even in the laboratory, 1 out of 3 people felt terrified under the drug"

        I dunno - don't get a lot of that with the Prozac crowd.

        I don't think I would want to trip balls in the middle of a laboratory anyway.
      • FLarsen, on 07/03/2008, -0/+1Get over the whole synthetic is bad, organic is good thing.

        Some of the worlds most deadly poisons, like ricin, are organic.
    • Tamriel, on 07/01/2008, -2/+15To tell you the truth, I think there are definitely physical, non-mental benefits. The times I've done them, I've noticed that my nose got a little runny at one point and my eyes teared up a bit. Supposedly they cause your pores to dilate. Sometimes my skin even felt a little clammy from sweat. It wasn't necessarily uncomfortable or anything like that. I suppose it's sort of a way to flush out some toxins. I also think they can act as a diuretic. I guess you could take that or leave it.

      With the whole spirituality thing... I can't really say. I'm an atheist. I was the first time I tried them, too, so I have no idea what that word even means to me. All I can say is that my experiences were beautiful. I wouldn't trade them away for anything.
    • rentmitchum, on 07/02/2008, -1/+15I think anything that helps the mind will help the body, as a healthy mind many times helps a healthy body. It's like if you got quite good at meditation. Mental ease will help your body to heal itself. Stress has been proven to harm the physical body, it only makes sense mental well-being does the opposite. For most who are ignorant to the potential benefits, it's always an argument that psychedelics couldn't possibly help you attain anything positive mentally. That's up to the person's mindset going into the experience and intention more than the drug itself.

      Responsible drug use can bring you universal and spiritual ease and understanding, or it can scare you *****. I feel like if psychedelics weren't banned and were taught to be used responsibly, we could attain a wide array of benefits from them. Many of the so called 'hippies' I've met have been some of the kindest and most balanced people I've known. I many times think if everyone in the world was skilled with using psychedelics, many of the problems facing humanity would go away. I'm sure I'll be buried for saying so, but it's what I truly believe. When you are shown near-evidence that the universe is an interconnected web and not a divisive and separate angry place, you can't help but look at the world with wonder and amazement and try to be as good to others as you can. After all, you know what you do effects everything else in the long run.

      So yea, I think it can work. =P
    • MadPooter, on 07/02/2008, -0/+7I could definitely define my experiences on Mushrooms as spiritual, though I define my spirituality in a different way. While on the drug, there are feelings of "oneness" and undeniable connection which would lead anyone to allow themselves to open up to energies which arguably have to do with the creation of our world; but it is up to the individual to define these feelings, and it's safe to say most people feel that they are connecting spiritually.

      I define spirituality in terms of connecting with everyone around me and being in tune with all races, matter and energy on the planet, and it is because of that that I have found MDMA to be better suited for connection. Although, you don't "learn" as much, as it were, from MDMA.
    • aphexcoil, on 07/02/2008, -15/+2dude... dude .. we're like ... all connected ... and like ... all one, man ... the whole world is a big orgasm man ... dude, like ... it is just so freaking amazing man ... i feel so close to my wall right now ... i love my pretty little white wall man ... it's like ... hugging me and ***** ... my wall is giving me a huge hug, man ...

      it's all good, like .. you know? wow ... i'm going to make out with my carpet ... I'm going to munch on my carpet for a bit, dudes ...
      • thatcoolrushguy, on 07/03/2008, -0/+1Great point, everyone knows it's terrible to feel like you're one with the universe!


        [/sarcasm]
      • theuber1337, on 07/03/2008, -0/+2Obviously you've never done them.
    • minorthreat, on 07/02/2008, -0/+4It spiritual in a way.. more so when you reflect back on the "trip" and im not religous at all. I think I can safely say that it pretty much changed my view on life, definitely for the positive. Its not like your really thinking about it at the time, but you can truly see things from a different point of view, so much that you really feel as if you are in that point of view, whatever it may be.

      Not to mention that your brain gets "rewired" and your senses get all messed up. Feeling light, tasting colors... its something everyone should experience
    • Sherman901, on 07/02/2008, -0/+9I think it works. It's helped me develop into a more tolerant person. I used to be a total prick to people, I used to make fun of people that were different from me and I was an overall ass. Then, in 10th grade, I tried magic mushrooms for the first time and had an amazing trip. After that, I thought about things a little differently and I am more accepting of people overall. I've had multiple trips since then and I think it can definitely help a person change into a more tolerant, compassionate individual.
    • verynegative, on 07/03/2008, -0/+4definately the best day of my life was when i ate the shrooms.
    • Jorin, on 07/03/2008, -0/+5It definitely can work. If you go into it with a good mindset and good friends then it can be an awesome experience.

      What I noticed the most was feeling a lot more connected to nature than I normally do. A lot of psycheledic drugs have that effect I think... you tend to lose your sense of ego and see the world as a whole.

      This is worth checking out: http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/jill_bolte_tayl ...

      This video isn't about drugs, but it's another interesting look at how our minds work. The woman in this video had a stroke that disabled the left hemesphere of her brain for part of a day, and while her right hemesphere was more active she saw the world in a way that's surprisingly similar to the effects of psychedelics. She talked about a deep and powerful feeling of connection to the world.

      Fortunately doing mushrooms is much safer than having a stroke. :O
    • xlocust, on 07/03/2008, -0/+1How do shrooms compare to pot?

      Pot tends to make me pretty paranoid. Would it have similar effects?
      • marx2k, on 07/03/2008, -3/+2Mushrooms will take your background anxieties and paranoia and put them under a microscope
      • WiseWeasel, on 07/03/2008, -0/+1Not at all, or very little. Mushrooms are a mental and physical voyage to a faraway place, where pot gets you high. There is some insight to be had from pot, as there is insight to be had from beer (albeit less than pot), but they are *nothing* compared to a mushroom experience. If you do take mushrooms, you need to be in a controlled environment where you can feel safe (at someone's private property or out in nature away from any sober people), or you are likely to have a bad experience.
      • opensourcepirat, on 07/03/2008, -0/+2I've done both and I think the answer is a definitive maybe. You could be getting anxious on pot because you're an anxious person or because thats just how pot affects you. There's a very simple rule which will allow you to safely try mushrooms though - The dosage makes the poison. If you're concerned about anxiety or any other side effects, then just start with a small dose your first time and work your way up.
    • bone625, on 07/03/2008, -0/+2Mushrooms definitely have a positive affect on a person and their wellness if they are in the right mental state to take them.

      I've taken them quite a few times, with quite a few people, and nobody has had less than a stellar time.

      Mescaline is a great alternative too. I find it to be more spiritual than Mushrooms. Same case here - taken it many times, with many different people. Only one of my friends had a bad experience, and he was pretty depressed to begin with. You can find it online if you know where to look ;)

      It's funny what your body can tell is made in nature, and what is not. Mescaline and Mushrooms always have a very "natural" feeling and a natural high when ingested. It's like you're dipping into a whole new set of thinking and reality, whereas man made drugs (everything from Coke to research chemicals made to mimic mescaline/mushrooms/etc) seem to have an edge to them that doesn't feel quite right. This is really hard to verbalize, but I find it to be quite interesting.
      • WiseWeasel, on 07/03/2008, -0/+1Cocaine is about as natural as mescaline... They're both purified plant compounds.
      • bone625, on 07/03/2008, -0/+1Ah, that's true. I was just thinking about how the high alters you, but yeah - you're right.
    • eccitante, on 08/01/2008, -0/+1yes, and yes.
  • migshark, on 07/01/2008, -2/+17A prerequisite to enter the study was religious/spiritual affiliation and thus they acknowledge the potential bias of its mystical effect. As a student of physics; I would love to try it for myself and ascertain what effect it has on my studying capacity =). Perhaps they should run a trial for atheists as a comparison? It would be fascinating to see if there was an increased rate of psychosis amongst them.
    • rentmitchum, on 07/02/2008, -1/+10It might interest you to know that I largely come from a self-taught but mainly scientific and logical background, and upon using psychedelics of any kind I am usually presented with complex patterns. Very rarely does any of it feel "mystical" or what have you. I feel like this is because I am largely grounded in what is real and not in delusions. It's not that I don't have an imagination, as I thought it might, because when I think about it I have more imagination than most. I can think up solutions to a lot of mechanical problems in my head and then build them from scraps, which takes a lot of imagination. I also have played a lot of D&D and if you have played it, you know it requires a huge amount of imaginative capacity to be able to play your character well, because you need to imagine the entire environment in your head (we didn't play with graph paper or miniatures like many do). I many times think it largely depends on the susceptibility of the person involved to personifying the things around them instead of thinking of them in terms of physical makeup or structure.

      Just a thought. I would also be quite interested in the resulting answer to your proposed question. I would speculate an increased rate of personified deity contact or 'spiritual' experience in people not grounded in logic or science and in those grounded in a scientific background an increased probability of seeing amazing geometric patterns and often seeing larger over-arching patterns in their own thought processes and learning things about themselves or the world that don't seem mystical, but none-the-less quite insightful. Things they may not have seen before but were right under their noses. This is what has happened for me. It's really a shame the widespread bans on psychedelics, as they offer amazing alternative gateways to the psyche and incredibly different perspective on any matter you can think of.

      I've always been a big fan of the idea of putting the worlds leading cosmologists and quantum physicists in a room and having them all try a moderate dose of psilocybes or LSD, or possibly something like DMT or mescaline. It would be extremely interesting to see if any of them would gain increased insight into matters of the macro or microscopic. The worlds of the very big or the very small are sometimes revealed to the user, and I'd be interest to hear their take on the experience, and also to see if any of them attain breakthroughs in current projects. I don't know if it's true or not, but somewhere along the lines I heard that LSD was involved somewhere in the thought processes that led to the discovery of the double-helix structure of DNA. If so, that's good evidence to support my experiment. Too bad it will never happen ;)

      30 seconds left to edit, if this isn't useful I'm sorry for posting it: http://www.miqel.com/entheogens/francis_crick_dna_ ...

      That pertains to the mentioned matter of LSD helping to find the double helix.
      • flameboy, on 07/03/2008, -0/+2i wish i could digg you more :(
      • WiseWeasel, on 07/03/2008, -0/+1In addition to Francis Crick being on LSD when he helped discover the structure of DNA, Nobel laureate Kary Mullis, inventor of the PCR process of DNA amplification, was also under the influence of LSD at the time of his breakthrough. There might be something to your idea.
    • pixeldust, on 07/02/2008, -0/+3I'm a graduate student in physics and have done both mushrooms and LSD, studying is out of the question for a "reasonable" dose and I couldn't even do a simple integral, not that I particularly wanted to at the time but I was curious. To be completely honest on LSD I have a voice recording of myself saying not to worry about school so much as there are more important things in life...it's certainly made a giant impact on my life as not a day goes by where I don't remember what I said into the voice recorder for my non drugged up self to hear.
    • krnldmp, on 07/02/2008, -7/+1Psilocybin is a potent stimulant and will make you think fast for a short while but will wear you out faster than caffeine. Pay attention to your body don't make it sick.
      • Alfonzo, on 07/02/2008, -0/+6Never eaten mushrooms, have we?
      • thatcoolrushguy, on 07/03/2008, -0/+4Oh right, I forgot mushrooms and amphetamines were the exact same thing. Wait...
      • NikoKun, on 07/03/2008, -0/+2lol don't the effects from mushrooms last for hours?
      • rentmitchum, on 07/03/2008, -0/+2I believe they last in the neighborhood of 4-6 hours. Hah, krnldmp if someone ever offers you salvia and they say it's like pot, run away. You'd obviously believe them.
    • djbon2112, on 07/02/2008, -0/+4One can be "spiritual" or have such an experience, while being an atheist. A theist may see God, an atheist, something equally powerful!
    • herculez, on 07/04/2008, -0/+1I was a total atheist until I took mushrooms and met God myself. I was overcome by an overwhelming sense of beauty and I knew immediately that I was seeing God, very clearly. Not some invisible man, but a universal intelligence of spectacular beauty. I saw the incredible beauty of all of life and of the planet, and felt that it was all a gift. It's really something you must experience for yourself in order to believe it is real. In doing so, you will be opening yourself up to many amazing experiences.
  • illegalamigo, on 07/02/2008, -0/+53of course they are, they're magic
  • rentmitchum, on 07/02/2008, -0/+15I think they promote a healthy mind when used correctly and therefore a healthy mind promotes a healthy body.
  • hollywoodphony, on 07/02/2008, -9/+1I've never done mushrooms *wink wink* but my friend did *wink wink* and he ended up only experiencing minor hallucinations for a few hours and then got so thirst he chugged two 32 oz bottles of Snapple while he was still in the store. That's the only physical effect that "he" felt.
    • feliks2, on 07/02/2008, -0/+1Relax, no law enforcement officials come to digg to screw over people doing drugs.
    • twiztidsinz, on 07/02/2008, -1/+1wink wink
    • HigherLogic, on 07/02/2008, -0/+4Sounds like you didn't, er, your friend *wink wink* didn't take enough. You only hit the threshold effects of mushrooms. When you've experienced what is known as "ego death," you'll know you've taken enough.

      http://www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/mushrooms_e ...

      "One of the most interesting effects is the feeling of awakening for the first time ever from a previous state of sleep, of liberation from what is now seen as a life-long state of bondage. Paradoxically, it is this new awareness which feels normal and natural and the previous fog which is seen to have been unreal all along. The bemushroomed seeker is convinced that, once gained, this awareness is impossible to lose, but inexplicably by the next day it is just a memory."

      Also, both mushrooms and LSD have been used for cluster headaches or migraines. Just like that one episode of House:

      http://www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/mushrooms_m ...
  • homedaddy, on 07/02/2008, -2/+27Even in the laboratory, 1 out of 3 people felt terrified under the drug. -- no *****. Sounds like a real mellow place to get high. Why didn't they try a jail cell or a hospital?
    • MadPooter, on 07/02/2008, -0/+9That's actually a really good point--a laboratory setting would be a terrible place to trip. As in the words of Bill Hicks, "They are sacred. Go to nature."
      • aphexcoil, on 07/02/2008, -0/+9True. Because the last thing I need when I'm tripping is some guy in a white lab jacket staring at me while taking notes and measuring my pupils.
    • ladybuglady3, on 07/02/2008, -2/+6"Last weekend, my friend and I went into a farm, took some mushrooms, and we sat on a field, I looked up into the sky, and saw God, he told me that there is nothing to fear, that he loves every single creature on this planet, and he showered gifts of forgiveness and love onto the earth, and I realised that there was nothing to fear, and I loved everything..."

      I miss his existence....
  • ihavefish, on 07/02/2008, -2/+3Unless you're at your friend's house when you eat them, and wake up on the floor of their parent's bathroom.

    Awkward.
    • theuber1337, on 07/03/2008, -0/+1stare into the mirror until you fall asleep? yeah, happens.
  • Shigglyboo, on 07/02/2008, -7/+10I for one thing it's incredibly ***** that governments around the world ban plants that one would think are gifts from god. As a free thinking adult I'm offended when I'm told what I can and cannot put into my body.

    LSD has permanent not-so-wonderful effects. It's essentially man made. Shroom trips come in waves and subside leaving you feeling more or less normal when all is said and done. It doesn't take a whole day + a full nights sleep just to sort of get your mind back to where it was.
    • feliks2, on 07/02/2008, -6/+5How does "who" made it affect what it does? That's just stupid.
    • hallucinated, on 07/02/2008, -1/+13Not to mention that LSD really doesn't have "permanent no-so-wonderful" effects.
    • upnortherik, on 07/02/2008, -0/+8Honest question, have you tried LSD? I have experience in both mushrooms and LSD and (respectfully) disagree with you.
    • Spudster, on 07/03/2008, -0/+1Most interesting drug I took was LSA from Woodrose seeds. It makes you puke for the first hour then you are fine. After that, it's basically just like taking LSD except there are very few visuals (same dose time too). It's weird, your hand feels like it's melting but nothing is moving your vision, same mental high too.
    • mattlohkamp, on 07/03/2008, -0/+8snap out of it - synthetic products are not necessarily inferior to organic ones.
    • Jorin, on 07/03/2008, -0/+9A friend of mine in psychology denies that LSD has permanent negative effects. Yes it's a synthetic chemical, but that doesn't make it harmful in and of itself. Psylocibin is also just a chemical. The fact that it occurs naturally doesn't make it any less or more safe.
    • NikoKun, on 07/03/2008, -0/+3Don't dis LSD. Sure it has some risks... but just like shrooms, it can be used responsibly, occasionally/ with moderation.

      There are responsible ways to use such things... like my health teacher once told me, (I was lucky enough to have a smart non-propaganda health teacher, for one year.) "if you must do them, be responsible, practice moderation, and always have a sitter, and remember 'set and setting'."
  • mrb4b00, on 07/02/2008, -2/+29No wonder Mario is always happy.
  • str3ama, on 07/02/2008, -0/+8In Japan up until recently (like 4-5 years ago) Magic Mushrooms were legal, you could get them in vending machines, just like beer and cigarettes.
    • Fishn2, on 07/02/2008, -0/+5They were legal to possess, unprocessed, in the UK up until 2005.
    • Ceryn1126, on 07/02/2008, -0/+5Been in Japan for 5 years off and on. (had to go back to the states for 1 year to finish university). I've asked a few Japanese about this and they say the vending machine part isn't true... unless it was a vending machine in an already sketchy location (where police wouldn't find it in the first place) You can however find people running stands that sell "Legal Drugs" (not yet classified by law) in seedy areas, most of the time police find some excuse to shut them down other then the drugs themselves.

      Japan is definatly not a drug culture. The police force is just ineffectual because they are used to "cultural norms" stopping people from doing things. But as far as the law goes you can get years in jail for possesing even a small ammount of pot.
  • leerayIG88, on 07/02/2008, -7/+2I thought Mushrooms were a gateway to heavy drugs..... I just don't know any more.
    • Spudster, on 07/03/2008, -0/+8It's a total gateway. Speaking of gateway's, you wouldn't believe how many drug addicts I know drink coffee. We really need to ban coffee in my opinion because it's only a pathway to drug addiction!
      • thatfunman, on 07/03/2008, -0/+1For me it was either coffee or cigarettes. I'm betting on cigarettes. Then I smoked weed.
    • theuber1337, on 07/03/2008, -0/+3It can be a gateway to LSD maybe. Once you've opened your mind with one psychedelic, another doesn't sound so bad. However, you won't move on to harder drugs, generally Mushrooms and Acid help show you the evils of that *****.
  • AsylumAleikum, on 07/02/2008, -11/+2Magic Mushrooms are good, but Crack Cocaine is better.

  • Liability, on 07/02/2008, -0/+7
    Psilocybin Cubensis are awesome! It's been too long.
  • mdmogren, on 07/02/2008, -1/+32those are NOT magic mushrooms in the picture!
    • Jorin, on 07/03/2008, -0/+1They look a lot more like Money's mushrooms. :D
  • trc0, on 07/02/2008, -4/+5buried. Author credits wikipedia as the lone source
  • krnldmp, on 07/02/2008, -0/+6Psilocybin. It will make you SMART. If you have a friend that lives in the country go there before you take it. Go to the top of the mountain on a full moon night.
    • milkmage, on 07/02/2008, -0/+4or the beach
      • pcghost, on 07/03/2008, -0/+1That has always been my favorite place to take them. It is an amazing way to put the sheer smallness of a human being in perspective. So wonderful to listen to the sea when your ears are open enough to hear it.
  • superkendall, on 07/02/2008, -12/+3Define "behaving better". Not wanting to have an external chemical product permanently affect how I behave, is just one reason I stay away from things like this.
    • Strunt, on 07/03/2008, -0/+1Good for you, why are you here?
    • LogicBomB, on 07/03/2008, -0/+3It doesn't affect how you behave. It merely forces you to think in a manner you never would have under normal circumstances. When the "high" goes away, you are just left with the knowledge of that perspective you experienced. Whether or not you choose to change your behaviours based on that is entirely up to you...
  • patrflav, on 07/02/2008, -0/+3I can attest to this.
  • daveluke1, on 07/02/2008, -1/+27This is very very true.... I had such a ***** temper in high school... In college, as I started to grow up and experience more, I became more open to things, and after I tried mushrooms for the first time, I had an epiphany about my life, and just felt so generally good... I felt like a different person, looking at things in different ways... learning not to judge, not take myself so seriously..... you start to see all the ***** things that happen in your life as things that happen, and i dunno..i started to just appreciate much more of the good.. even the bad.... if you haven't tried them ever, try them now!!!!!! while i regret doing it 11 times, whereas I should have stopped at 5... i still feel like it is an experience that everyone needs to try at least once...
    • anchorboi, on 07/02/2008, -1/+2So what was the shroom of your choice?
      • daveluke1, on 07/03/2008, -0/+4I don't know the exact names of them... Usually I ate the typical looking normal sized looking shrooms, but one time I ate these mad tiny shrooms... Like instead of like 4 caps and 3 stems being an eighth... This was like 15 or so tiny little shrooms.... I never had such crazy visuals.. I was watching the movie Magnolia (my friends wanted to watch it.. I love that movie, but its so sad.. you can't watch that ***** on mushrooms)... and the dude in the foreground separated from the background and they were shifting in opposite directions hahaha... at the point, i jumped up and was like "WHAT THE ***** ! WE HAVE TO GO OUTSIDE NOW!!".... so much nonsense really happened that night... I grew close bonds with my friends.. broke into an empty dorm room.... ran through the woods... oh man... I can't believe I'm 24 now and working for Corporate America...
    • icmp, on 07/03/2008, -0/+6100% Agreed. I tried some psilocybe cyanescens last weekend, for the first time, with a couple of friends and I feel so different than I did the week before.. The trip was pretty mild (low-ish dosage -- mixed with a little ecstasy and weed but I don't think that made a huge difference in the larger psychedelic experience), but still provocative and intriguing.

      Had the normal visual distortions (as in colored drapes changing color and appearing to melt before my eyes) -- I think this changed some of my perceptions of the world in a positive way. In fact, I have been thinking to myself how everything that was very familiar is now as though I'm perceiving it from a different angle. Simply amazing.

      The experience has given me more motivation and I think helped me with various anxiety problems that I have had to live with so far. Overall it was just an incredibly moving spiritual experience that I doubt I will soon forget and I would therefore highly recommend it to anyone else in a safe, supervised environment. As someone else said, respect the plant(s) and you'll be fine.
      • daveluke1, on 07/03/2008, -0/+2Ahh.. I dunno why, but it's mad nice to hear a shroom story... Good times... Yeah, even the really mild trips are sometimes really fun... more peaceful and not too heady...
    • ziptnf, on 07/03/2008, -0/+1While mushrooms make you feel awesome and give you new perspectives, acid does that too, but WAY better.
  • sheldonator, on 07/02/2008, -1/+5I've tried them, and well it was a very different experience than anything else I have tried. I felt like I was viewing the world with a different set of eyes. My advice is try it if you are interested, and don't if you're aren't. If you do try it just make sure you are comfortable with your surroundings and the people around you, because it would suck otherwise.
  • Hetman, on 07/02/2008, -1/+7Agreed. I would not recommend mushrooms are acid for everyone. But if you like to get a better understanding of yourself and reality in general it is worth taking the trip.
  • nthitz, on 07/02/2008, -7/+2I'd rather take a hit of acid over these toxins anyday. Still fun though!
    • upnortherik, on 07/02/2008, -2/+1Mushrooms treat my body like what they are - poison. I still value the experiences I had with them but avoid mushrooms now in favor of LSD.
      • chilidbz, on 07/03/2008, -1/+1And LSD is.......less "poisonous"?
      • upnortherik, on 07/03/2008, -0/+2I'm not really sure. Just speaking about how I feel when I'm on them.

        Mushrooms give me pretty intense stomach cramps sometimes, and that can really be pretty negative while you're trying to enjoy their effects. LSD has never given me effects like that.

        I submit to the fact that "poisonous" or "poison" is not correct. Apologies.
      • theuber1337, on 07/03/2008, -0/+1LSD is not a poison. It acts more like a natural hormone.
    • Sherman901, on 07/02/2008, -3/+1yeah, because humans really now how to make things that are better for you than those of organic, natural substance.
    • upnortherik, on 07/03/2008, -1/+0________ is better than ________ because it's organic!
    • flameboy, on 07/03/2008, -1/+4Mushrooms are NOT poisonous or toxic.
    • HippyInASuit, on 07/03/2008, -0/+3Psilocybin mushrooms are not toxic or poisonous. There are other mushrooms that are toxic, and amina mushrooms may be toxic and give a different kind of "trip," but magic mushrooms and LSD are not poisonous. They attach to serotonin receptors in the brain, but do no damage.
  • palehorse864, on 07/02/2008, -0/+25One of the quirks in the study occurred when an Italian plumber was given one of the magic mushrooms. Unlike the other test subjects, he grew to twice his normal size and stomped out of the building, taking a wall down and wandering into the animal research building where he stomped several turtles who were being used in an unrelated experiment.
  • TheMachine1, on 07/02/2008, -0/+8I've read studies where psilocin had long lasting positive effects in people taking it a few times but there are certainly a percent that have the opposite reaction.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18257429

    "Two young men, 25 and 32 years old, presented with severe automutilation by knife wounds after consumption of hallucinogenic mushrooms."

    Reminds me of burning myself with a candle flame and telling people to please get me away from it. You need a safe person not using around you. Or something stupid can happen.

  • ricoboy24, on 07/02/2008, -4/+2have you ever tried listening to music while on the mushrooms? even when high on marijuana its the best feeling in the world. your off in space thinking about what the artist have to say, and you cant help but agree with there beats. LSD is a different story, thats just hard core. shrooms and weed is where its all at. Legalize it.
    • thegoodsteer, on 07/02/2008, -0/+7LSD is just as safe, if not safer. There are just way too much propaganda behind it, just as marijuana and psilocybe mushrooms.
    • Spudster, on 07/03/2008, -0/+5The only worrying aspect about LSD is that it lasts for a LONG time (8 hours versus 3). But yeah, physically LSD is just as safe as Mushrooms are.
    • HippyInASuit, on 07/03/2008, -0/+1LSD is just as safe and I've found mushrooms can provide trips that require more "work."
  • daveluke1, on 07/02/2008, -0/+6Also, for those who are curious... I recommend taking them with someone who has experience tripping, and if you do not want to take the full plunge, take just the threshold amount (i think 1/16th) which is the amount to just give you the slightest effect...
    • cambob76, on 07/02/2008, -2/+2EAT THE WHOLE BAG!!!!!!!! If you eat a little now, eating more later won't do anything. Just remember that it's all in your head and there's nothing to be afraid of.
  • masterm1nd, on 07/02/2008, -13/+3To bad no one will mention any of the down sides, including fatally eating the wrong kind of mushroom, eating a fatal dose of the right kind of mushroom, getting a permatrip, legal consequences, and probably a few others. Selling shrooms is attempted manslaughter. And a perma trip is where yo don't come out of the high. In other words, your brain is permanently fried.
    • daveluke1, on 07/02/2008, -3/+2Yeah true... Don't take mushrooms if you have a family history of mental illness... as it could onset it... illnesses in terms of skitzophrenia (yeah i know thats spelled completely wrong), dementia, psychosis....

      I don't know if permatrips are real tho... I think those are myths.. Also the posession of shrooms = manslaughter I think is also a myth..

      Like all drug experimentation, one should be educated about it first.... I for one would never try something that could lead to an addiction like heroin...
      • masterm1nd, on 07/02/2008, -8/+1It's the sale of shrooms that's attempted manslaughter, not possession. I don't think perma trip is a myth, but even so, I watched two friends almost kill each other because they thought they were permatripped and thought that was the only way to get out of it. You have to be very highly educated to pick the right kind of wild shrooms, and I mean VERY. I would have taught myself expect I realized it would have taken thousands of hours and I still would have doubt in the back of my mind. I honestly wouldn't consume them just for the fact that the dumbasses who picked and sold them are probably not qualified enough that I want my life riding on them.
      • upnortherik, on 07/02/2008, -1/+5Mushrooms are usually GROWN (pretty easily at that) by knowledgeable people. Very rarely are hand-picked mushrooms sold on the street. Step away from the keyboard, man!
      • masterm1nd, on 07/02/2008, -7/+1And where do the spores they use to grow come from? Bottom line is, you have no idea where they came from when you buy them on the street. Oh well, it's your life not mine.
      • upnortherik, on 07/03/2008, -1/+4I bought (past-tense) them from my friends, who were knowledgeable in the subject. They obtained the spores from accredited sources throughout the world. They are very freely available. Bottom line is, I know better where they came from than the produce you buy at the grocery store!
      • masterm1nd, on 07/03/2008, -7/+2Well, you're still betting your life on your druggy friends alleged knowledge. Not smart. Regardless, the overwhelming majority of shrooms users and diggers reading this do not have access to shroom dealers who went to the college of fungus and spores from accredited sources around the world. Trust me, it's very hard to be knowledgeable about shrooms in a medical or scientific sense. Regardless, drug dealers tend to say a lot of ***** like that when in reality it is not true.
      • upnortherik, on 07/03/2008, -1/+3"Well, you're still betting your life on your druggy friends alleged knowledge."

        And the only thing that has shown us your "knowledge" of mushrooms is your friends, who were going to kill each other because they thought they were perma-tripping? Need I say more??

        BTW, I learned what I know through books. The same books that the people who grew my 'shrooms read. Move on, give up.
      • masterm1nd, on 07/03/2008, -4/+1Dude, yes those friends were idiots, but the point is, it can happen. I don't want people to die like that. If you know better and would not do that, than my warning is not for you.
      • upnortherik, on 07/03/2008, -1/+2My point is, maybe you should just link us to a reputable source of information before spouting *****. I have no personal problem with you, and your misinformation isn't your fault! Spreading it, however, IS. It really is not your fault that you've been tricked into believing the ***** you're spreading.

        Mushrooms (and ALL substances) must be respected in order to properly achieve the desired result. This requires research, education, preparation, and proper oversight. Mushrooms can lead to deadly situations, most certainly, but so can bicycles.
      • flameboy, on 07/03/2008, -1/+2masterm1nd: what warning? every "warning" you issued has been debunked.

        buying bad mushrooms is not a concern from 99% of people living in cities, there is no lethal dose (you can look that up buddy, cite me something that says otherwise), there is no such thing as a permatrip (you can look that up too)

        So all in all, I think you have just made it clear you have some learning to do before you start "warning" people!
      • marx2k, on 07/03/2008, -1/+1"And where do the spores they use to grow come from?"

        http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=1 ...
      • masterm1nd, on 07/03/2008, -2/+1Actually, you are confused. You are talking about marijuana's ld-50 rating, which is theoretical. Mushrooms very much has has an ld-50 that was calculated by actually dosing animals till they died. And even if you don't die, you can still have a very bad time or kill yourself in otherwise besides ODing, which is more common than ODing.
      • daveluke1, on 07/03/2008, -0/+2"My point is, maybe you should just link us to a reputable source of information before spouting *****"

        erowid.org but you might not call that reputable, but it has many many accounts from various experienced users...

        I feel like the trick to not freak out and have accidents happen is to learn to calm yourself.. After more experience, I learned to remind myself that things will be okay after 5 hours... as one of the biggest reasons for freaking out is worrying that you ruined yourself... Having people you trust around you is important...

        Bottomline, beneficial imo but could have dangers yes... so it's just plain important to be careful and understand yourself
    • Hetman, on 07/02/2008, -2/+2The problem is if they were legal you would not have to worry about the negative affects. But you are right eating the wrong mushrooms can be bad. I have never heard of anyone getting a permatrip from mushrooms. I thought that only occurred with high doses of LSD and still it had to be bad acid also.
      • masterm1nd, on 07/02/2008, -4/+1There would still be some negatives that you would have to worry about, like eating a fatal dose or having a bad personal reaction. I'm undecided whether legalization would ultimately be better or safer.
      • flameboy, on 07/03/2008, -2/+2There is no fatal dose you numbskull. It's like marijuana.
      • masterm1nd, on 07/03/2008, -3/+1Gosh you're an idiot. Marijuana is the only drug and or substance that hasn't been shown to kill you at a certain dose. It's called an LD-50 rating, and shrooms has one. So no, it's not like marijuana.
      • upnortherik, on 07/03/2008, -2/+2Psychedelic 'shrooms will kill you if you consume enough. The LD-50 is absurdly higher than your average joe would ever even consider eating, however. It's pretty tough to "accidentally" eat a huge dose, unless you buy them in concentrated form such as chocolates, tea, or even caramel.
      • flameboy, on 07/03/2008, -1/+2masterm1nd, please learn how to research the matters on which you speak. As everybody here is telling you, you have no clue what you are talking about.

        you serve to make yourself look stupider and stupider. good job!

        Thankfully, others who are actually educated will continue to bury you so that others do not have to read your ignorant posts.

        Take my advice, if everybody is telling you are an idiot, why don't you actually visit google for a bit and see why? There are NO credible scientists who agree with your views, doesn't that tell you something?
      • upnortherik, on 07/03/2008, -1/+2@ flameboy

        It's tough to unlearn what they teach you in middle-school health class. I understand his ignorance but it's time for him to get educated now that he is aware of it.
      • masterm1nd, on 07/03/2008, -4/+1Oh yeah, MY ignorance. let's just say I was for it before I was against it. And yeah, when I got my dare certificate, I rolled it up and mok smoked in front of the cop and my teachers. Let's just say you are where I was, and will eventually be where I am. The point is there are some bad things that can possibly happen. And people should at least be aware of that and how to minimize it before they do something they could regret.
      • marx2k, on 07/03/2008, -2/+2masterm1nd, you still haven't linked to an LD50 of psilocybin.
      • masterm1nd, on 07/03/2008, -4/+2Maybe you don't understand that the ld-50 rating isnt important, whats important is that it has an ld-50 rating that has been figured out by killing animals in real life, not just in theory like pot's ld-50 rating. Meaning it has been proven to kill at a high enough dose.
      • Fordi, on 07/03/2008, -1/+5THC has an LD-50 rating as well. The problem, as with psilocybin mushrooms, is that without a concentrated form (that is, distilled), it's impossible to fit that much vegetable matter in your body (smoked or eaten).

        There is a lethal dose of psilocybine (280mg/kg). There is not a practically lethal dose of shrooms (well, 283,000mg/kg - but that means a 100 lb person would need to consume 28 pounds of the stuff before it's metabolized). Please, I know it goes against your nature, but research before speaking for once, man.
    • upnortherik, on 07/02/2008, -2/+9masterm1nd, I'm not sure if you know this, but you have absolutely NO IDEA what you are talking about. At all. That attempted manslaughter ***** is BS (prove me wrong - wait, you can't). There are also people who have eaten 100s of times the normal dose of street mushrooms (usually B+) and have not OD'd. "Perma-tripping"... not even going to respond to that.

      Your brain is completely fried? You must be your Dare class team leader. Get educated before you try and educate others.

      Dugg DOWN.
      • masterm1nd, on 07/03/2008, -8/+2Nevermind, there are no drawbacks to using highly toxic mushrooms. Do you even know what toxic means lol. First of all, the laws are different depending where you are, genius. I am simply giving you guys some possible very bad and irreversible negative effects. You can ignore them if you like, but I'm not sure how you can make me out to be the bad guy trying to give you information you weren't going to get so you can make a more informed decision. Do whatever you want. But don't question my personal experience, and don't pretend there is no downside to getting high off of fatally toxic chemicals.
      • upnortherik, on 07/03/2008, -3/+2Spreading misinformation is wrong. You are guilty of that.

        Did I ever say mushrooms weren't toxic?
      • Rhettsta, on 07/03/2008, -2/+4mastermind your so full of ***** your such a puppet
      • flameboy, on 07/03/2008, -2/+7Magic Mushrooms are NOT "toxic" based on the scientific definition. Advil is more "toxic" than psilocybin. The hallucinogenic effects are not caused by their "toxicity". It is very similar to marijuana in this regard.

        please get your facts before posting.
      • Fordi, on 07/03/2008, -0/+5Actually, since psilocybine has about the same LD50 as caffiene, you could classify coffee as 'highly toxic' using your definition, masterm1nd.
    • hallucinated, on 07/02/2008, -2/+8The ***** apparent in this post is ridiculous. Let me explain:

      1. Eating the wrong kind of anything can be fatal. That's why you don't do it.
      2. There is no such thing as a fatal dose of "the right kind of mushroom." True magic mushrooms, once correctly identified, are not toxic.
      3. There is no such thing as a permatrip.
      4. Legal consequences for possession of magic mushrooms are the same as any other Schedule I drug.
      5. The schizophrenia/psychedelic drug connection is weak at best. The effects and symptoms of schizophrenia are vastly different than those of LSD/magic mushrooms. If you do find a single credible article showing a link between the two, please enlighten us.

      However, I do agree individuals with existing mental conditions should obviously refrain from using these drugs. The effects produced by these drugs heavily depends on the internal mental state. I don't foresee a healthy, normal individual leading a happy, satisfactory life having any problems.
      • upnortherik, on 07/03/2008, -2/+6Dugg for common sense and education.

        He talks about his friends who nearly killed themselves because they believed perma-trips exist. This wouldn't have even happened if they were informed of the safe use of psylocybin(sp?). Because of irresponsible people spreading lies about this (and other drugs) and disguising it as proven FACT, these incidents are all too common.
      • masterm1nd, on 07/03/2008, -9/+2Ohh the irony.

        1. The overwhelming majority don't have access to medicinal spores. Unless you have thousands of hours invested in researching mushrooms, you don't freaking know what you're eating. I know people who have sold the wrong kind of shrooms on purpose. Moot point

        2. Wrong, the toxicity is what makes you high! I can see you have no idea what you are talking about now. And yes, toxic means fatal at the right dose. Moot point

        3. You could be right on that one, but it doesn't refute the fact that I've watched two of my friends almost kill eachother because they thought they were permatripped and thought that was how to get out of it. Moot point

        4. Being the same legal consequence as another drug doesn't make it not a consequence lol. Moot point

        5. I don't know anything about that and didn't bring it up. Moot point
      • Rhettsta, on 07/03/2008, -2/+5mastermind aspirin is toxic and it takes alot less to die on aspirin then it does magic mushrooms your whole pematrip thing is ***** why do you act like you know about things you know nothing about? you have problems weirdo
      • Mothrog, on 07/03/2008, -2/+8"2. Wrong, the toxicity is what makes you high! I can see you have no idea what you are talking about now. And yes, toxic means fatal at the right dose. Moot point"

        Uh, sure. It's pretty obvious you're the one that has no idea what the ***** you're talking about. I guess you must know better than Berkeley? And selling shrooms is equivalent to manslaughter? I'd love to see where you drug that happy ***** up.

        http://sulcus.berkeley.edu/mcb/165_001/papers/manu ...

        The most traditional measurement of toxicity of a drug is a therapeutic index that is a ratio of the lethal dose (LD50) to the effective dose (ED50) (Gable 1993). According to the Registry of Toxic Effects, the therapeutic index for psilocybin is 641. In comparison to other substances it is relative non-toxic. For example the therapeutic index for vitamin A is 9637, 4816 for LSD, 199 for aspirin and 21 for nicotine, thus psilocybin appears to have a relatively low toxicity (WWW 1). In addition, literature states that the oral intake of psilocybin appears to be the lowest risk out of all other drugs for both acute lethality and dependence (Gable 1993).
      • flameboy, on 07/03/2008, -2/+5masterm1nd STFU, kthx.

        1. Nobody grows fatal mushrooms and sells them. thats dumb.

        2. No, YOU are wrong. READ: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psilocybin_mushrooms "Psilocybin mushrooms are non-toxic and non-addictive". Got it? Good. Now shut the HELL up.

        3. So your friends had a bad trip. Therefore all magic mushrooms should be banned? Maybe we should ban everything you have a bad experience with regardless of how many other people have had pleasant ones.

        4. The law is bad, the drug is not. That's the point.
      • upnortherik, on 07/03/2008, -1/+3masterm1nd, where exactly was the 'irony' there?
      • marx2k, on 07/03/2008, -0/+3"1. The overwhelming majority don't have access to medicinal spores."

        http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=1 ...

    • masterm1nd, on 07/03/2008, -6/+2Natural selection is alive and well.
      • Mothrog, on 07/03/2008, -2/+4So, when are you off? Do yourself a favor, and at least try to do some research before making a total ass of yourself.
      • flameboy, on 07/03/2008, -2/+3masterm1nd: Either find credible evidence for your radical claims or go away. We at Digg don't appreciate misinformed viewpoints. Thanks.
      • masterm1nd, on 07/03/2008, -7/+2Dude, I don't need a source to say "if you eat a poisonous mushroom by accident, it can kill you". All I am trying to convey by that, is to be careful and know what you're getting; or don't do it if you don't want to take that risk with your life. That really isn't a "bad thing". Jeez, I wonder why they call you flameboy. Now that's a double entendreu for ya.
      • upnortherik, on 07/03/2008, -1/+4I'm baffled by the fact that, of all of us, you are the one starting your arguments with "Dude,".
      • Mothrog, on 07/03/2008, -2/+4It's pretty bad when you can't even keep track of your own posts.

        "Wrong, the toxicity is what makes you high! "

        For that, you need a source. For the ***** claim that selling shrooms is equivalent to manslaughter, you need a source. Things pulled out of your ass are not a source.
      • masterm1nd, on 07/03/2008, -7/+2upnorth,mMaybe assumptions about me couldn't be more dead wrong.

        moth, I meant poisonous not toxic.
      • Mothrog, on 07/03/2008, -2/+3You do realize that poisonous and toxic mean the same damn thing?
      • masterm1nd, on 07/03/2008, -6/+1Pretty much the same thing. I think you guys are confused because although some things aren't considered "toxic", they have a toxicity. For instance water is not toxic, but at a high enough dose it becomes toxic.
      • flameboy, on 07/03/2008, -1/+3Within the context we are speaking, they mean exactly the same thing. Even wikipedia agrees:

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poison : "A distinction between the two terms is not always observed, even among scientists."

        A central concept of toxicology is that effects are dose-dependent. Calling something toxic or poisonous is ambiguous and means you are generalizing the dosage for your purposes. That said, shrooms can be conclusively classified as NON-TOXIC and NOT POISONOUS for our purposes.
      • Fordi, on 07/03/2008, -2/+4Sorry, you're an evolution denier; it's dishonest for you to invoke a theory you think is invalid.
      • masterm1nd, on 07/03/2008, -4/+1And that;s why you're a moron fordi. I do believe in evolution. just don't think it proves there is not a higher being like you, which is also why you;re a moron.

        and flameboy, that doesn't mean they can;t kill you from an od.
      • ApokalypseNow, on 07/03/2008, -0/+4@masterm1nd
        That's why you fail - the term "higher being" has no meaning in evolutionary biology.
      • Phyraxus, on 07/03/2008, -0/+3Don't forget he said the words "believe" in evolution. UGHH I hate it when people say that. You ACCEPT evolution, you don't "believe" in it.
      • Fordi, on 07/03/2008, -0/+2@masterm1nd:
        If you're forced to 'believe' in a concept in order to validate it, you see it as invalid, and in need of your self-deception faculties in order to prop it up.

        Meanwhile, if you honestly understand and accept evolutionary theory, I apologize; I must have confused you with one of your mates, such as JimmySpaza or Crazed "Neverlution" Leper.
    • NikoKun, on 07/03/2008, -1/+5All of those reasons, are reasons why we should legalize and regulate the use of Mushrooms. So that people will be less likely to do the wrong type, and less likely to do the wrong dosage.
      • masterm1nd, on 07/03/2008, -4/+1But, you have to also factor in more people using the drug as well. PLus you should be saying most, not all.
    • masterm1nd, on 07/03/2008, -8/+2To refute everyone of of you, even if you handpicked the shroom and went to shroom college, you could still pick a poisonous one by accident. Most of you will just be buying them from random ***** lowlifes on the street, so this is more of a potential problem. Said lowlifes a) don't really give a ***** about you, and b) want your money, which sometimes means selling something that isn't what they claim it is. Now you can get me on the "toxic" technicality, but I meant "poisonous". I only said "toxic" because someone claimed shrooms had the same toxicity as marijuana and had a non theoretical ld-50 rating, which is false. Why do you want people believing mushrooms are a complete wonderdrug with absolutely no potential adverse effects?
      • upnortherik, on 07/03/2008, -1/+1Where the ***** did I ever say that "mushrooms are a complete wonderdrug with absolutely no potential adverse effects"? Or anyone? I am done replying to you in this discussion. Waste of my time.
      • masterm1nd, on 07/03/2008, -4/+1Well, this digg article implies it, and no one has mentioned any potential negatives but me. Now why don't you show me where I said, that you said "mushrooms are a complete wonderdrug with absolutely no potential adverse effects"? If you look closely, I addressed my comment to all the ***** flaming me for trying to help others, not just you.
      • upnortherik, on 07/03/2008, -0/+2Last reply, because apparently I can't help myself.

        Spreading blatant lies and misinformation is not helping anyone, moron.
      • masterm1nd, on 07/03/2008, -4/+1Well, I think you would have to be lying to say I am blatantly lying lol. But you won't see that irony. Here is an explanation of the "toxicity" thing that I am "technically" wrong about (even though it could still kill you and has killed people before; but I'm technically wrong in my wording - you got me).

        "I think you guys are confused because although some things aren't considered "toxic", they have a toxicity. For instance water is not toxic, but at a high enough dose it becomes toxic, like magic mushrooms"
      • Mothrog, on 07/03/2008, -1/+3It all depends on what your definition of is is, right "master"m1nd? Guess what! All toxic chemicals have a level below which they aren't toxic. And do please indicate when the ***** anyone has died from psilocybin poisoning. And for ***** sake, get over it. You were wrong, dead wrong, and now, you're trying to cover your ass by coming up with your own definitions for words. Give it up already. You don't "help" anyone by talking out of your ass.
      • Phyraxus, on 07/03/2008, -0/+3Apparently, masterm1nd thinks that were gonna hear these things about mushrooms and go out indiscriminately eating every mushroom we can find. Sorry man, we aren't all as dull as you.
      • Fordi, on 07/03/2008, -0/+3You seem to think that Psilocybin mushrooms are:

        1) similar in appearance to a poisonous variety
        2) not homegrown, picked in the wild

        (1) is correct; there are many varieties of Psilocybes, many of which are very similar in appearance to mushrooms of high-to-deadly toxicity. If you're hunting for psilocybes in the wild, I would suggest studying mushrooming for a few months; there are a lot of things to look for to avoid poisonous mushrooms. Meanwhile, mushrooming is fun and rewarding (culinarily) once you know what you're doing.

        (2) is not; The 'shrooms you get on the street are, by and large, farmed or homegrown on a log. They're almost always of the cubensis variety. They're the most widespread and the least similar to any poisonous variety. This is because it's almost always cheaper and easier to keep a log in your basement than to go hunting for mushrooms, especially in urban environments, and temperate zones where the cubensis variety just barely holds on compared to other mushroom varieties.


    • flameboy, on 07/03/2008, -1/+7masterm1nd:
      1. Every mushroom advocate will tell you not to pick your own mushrooms. People ("lowlifes") grow them from spores which are ascertained from credible sellers. Nobody sells spores for toxic mushrooms, that business would not last long at all and would be pointless. But as a fair warning, you should not pick your own mushrooms because that is indeed dangerous.

      2. Toxic and poisonous mean the same thing. Magic mushrooms are not poisonous, I didn't say they had the same LD-50 as marijuana, I said they were LIKE marijuana in that regard. *** No body has ever died from chemically overdosing on Psilocybin *** You can look at that up.

      3. Nobody here said that magic mushrooms had "absolutely no potential adverse effects". Please tell me who said that. We have been attacking you for posting factually wrong information. If you want to warn us against the bad effects of mushrooms, you can't just make ***** up and expect anybody to take you seriously.

      I am glad that from your last post it seems like you have actually done some research!
      • masterm1nd, on 07/03/2008, -6/+1How can you be certain the shrooms I just bought from the meth head at the corner came from a lab and are certified safe and correct species, YOU CAN'T. So I see it fit to mention this so people can make an informed decision to prevent something that although rare, could happen, and ***** ***** up forever.
      • upnortherik, on 07/03/2008, -1/+3LOL @ 'informed decision'
      • flameboy, on 07/03/2008, -0/+4If you feel so strongly about that, then you should be advocating legalization so that people who wish to buy mushrooms can buy them safely.

        But honestly, you are overstating the problem. People just don't traffic deadly mushrooms because you can grow the real thing just as easily.

        Perhaps your warning would be more relevant if you were talking about MDMA.
      • upnortherik, on 07/03/2008, -1/+3These are the same people that believe people sell marijuana laced with other crazy drugs in order to 'get you hooked'
      • masterm1nd, on 07/03/2008, -5/+1First of all I'm a pot advocate. Who ever said I don;t advocate legalization of shrooms for safety purposes? I actually stated above that I'm on the fence, haven't thought about it. I haven't said one thing saying Im not for the leagalization. Second of all, the fact that it rarely happens doesn't mean it will not happen to you. If you live long enough you'll figure that out. See when you play the odds, with everything, all the time, you end up losing eventually. I once thought like you, until I got burned. Hopefully you can learn something when you get burned.
      • upnortherik, on 07/03/2008, -0/+1"If you live long enough you'll figure that out"

        I would just about guarantee I am older than you.
  • BoogieManOh, on 07/02/2008, -4/+4they should give them to inmates.
    • pooty2, on 07/03/2008, -0/+1I can't imagine psychedelics and jail cells mixing well. Sounds like a bad trip.
  • osquip, on 07/02/2008, -0/+17I used to have terrible depression and anxiety problems when I was younger. Mushrooms cured me. It was an incredible experience. I've only taken them less than 10 times in my life. I was able to realize that everyone is going to put themselves first and to not take the actions of others personally. I've been a very happy person since. The trips got progressively boring until the last time I did them, I decided not to take them any more. I think everyone should try them at least once in their life.
    • daveluke1, on 07/02/2008, -0/+5Hmm.. See when I tripped I saw the same thing... I felt like the point in life is to put others first and expect less... and that that behavior would rub off on people... which while feeling benevolent.. also felt empowering..

      Unforunately after I entered corporate america, I started to get anxiety attacks a lot, just cuz there is way too much of what you are talking about..... but I'm going to quit soon and find a way to get into non-profit.. or teaching or something... but I dunno.. I still wanna see how I would feel taking shrooms in this new phase of life..
      • thatfunman, on 07/03/2008, -0/+3What you both describe sounds like something one would read in a self-help book, but I'm not going to judge that quick. Do you think the mushrooms somehow are responsible for adding something to your brain or let you access some part in your brain resulting in your current outlook on that perpective?

        More studies need to be made. That's for sure.
      • daveluke1, on 07/03/2008, -0/+1Well I think the difference between a self-help book and what we're talking about is that you can really see the other possibilities in life.. in the world... how life is not to be lived one right way, but is flexible and open... and i guess you sort of face your anxieties head on, and learn to have more control... control and flexibility is a hard thing to balance... i think anyone who has ever been in a rut, knows sometimes its really hard to snap out of worrying... I think what mushrooms do is allow you to take down all your defenses and just deal with it... can you really say that is easy to do from reading a book?
      • daveluke1, on 07/03/2008, -0/+1Although I would definitely draw comparisons between the trips and buddhist meditation.. I found buddhism through mushrooms...
      • herculez, on 07/04/2008, -0/+1Mushrooms elevate you to a higher spiritual dimension, beyond your ego. From there you have a clear perspective of your life and this reality we're living in. You can discern what's truly important in life, like our connection to all other living beings. And you can see our money and power structures for what they are: merely societally propagated illusions that have no real power over you.
    • LogicBomB, on 07/03/2008, -0/+1About trips being progressively boring - your body has a VERY fast tolerance build-up to shrooms. You could get right-***** tonight, take the same amount tomorrow and get half the effects, and so forth. From what I read you are just throwing money into the toilet if you do them often.
  • dstamat, on 07/02/2008, -1/+19Native Americans and most native inhabitants across the world have been doing all sorts of "mind altering" fungi, flowers, herbs... etc for centuries, and, most of them call it "Medicine". Connecting the dots...
  • iamsmooth, on 07/02/2008, -0/+4I'm just amazed at how this is news. Anyone who has experimented with drugs can tell you all this.

    Basically a group of scientists got their subjects all high on mushrooms, and watched them.
    • flameboy, on 07/03/2008, -0/+4It's news because sadly the majority of the American population has been lied to by the government for their entire lives.
  • LittleGerms, on 07/02/2008, -0/+8Medicinal Magic Mushrooms here we come!
  • minorthreat, on 07/02/2008, -4/+3magic mushrooms? seriously who calls them magic mushrooms? gtfo
  • geminister, on 07/02/2008, -0/+4This isn't exactly news. This kind of stuff was what the "crazy drug liberals" were saying all along. How this suddenly has become an acceptable fact is beyond me, but i greet it with joy. Now if we only could get those extreme laws fixed, we're in for a real trip. So to speak..
  • FuXe, on 07/02/2008, -0/+4Naturally occurring entheogenic plants are simply amazing. I've been approaching them starting at age 28, with alot of research skepticism and apprehension. What I've discovered has been nothing less than profoundly life changing, for the better.

    I recommend to anyone who is interested to really dig into the research and writings that cluster around Timothy Leary and Terrance McKenna. Youtube them and listen to lectures etc.. Do your own study before experimenting, and please respect the plants. This isn't just about getting 'high'.
    • marx2k, on 07/03/2008, -0/+0mushrooms != plants
    • FuXe, on 07/03/2008, -1/+1Sorry.. I have a personal tendancy to group all psychedelics into 'plants' or 'synthetics'. I am a big fan of Salvia Divinorum, taken in the traditional way of the Mazatec Indians. However, I have begun to develop a relationship with the Psilocybe mushrooms lately.
      I will never touch the synthetics, not good juju.
  • RoccoMcTaco, on 07/02/2008, -0/+16(Would've been nice if they showed the right shrooms.)
    Lot's of experience here. It can be spiritual, but I think for some people it depends on how open to spirituality they are, though it can make a person who hasn't thought much aboput spirituality interested. As with LSD in high school, some kids would do it to laugh their ass off and that's it. I've always been into the mystical, and under the influence, would feel impulsed into meditating and doing Tai Chi movements (before I knew what that was)

    If you are curious about doing it, one well known rule to take into account is "Set & Setting", especially if you're inexperienced. A comfortable day out in Nature is a great way to do it, with good friends. Also, issues that you're pre-occupied with will come into play, so if you have a negative attitudes and perceptions about yourself and other people, be prepared to deal with that. If you are open and focused, you can learn, if you're afraid and out of control, you could have a bad trip.

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    • DeathJux, on 07/02/2008, -0/+2Very well said, all-around.
    • GPY26, on 07/03/2008, -0/+1^ :) I find myself doing "Tai Chi" like movements while in the experience, as well. I've had a few jarred up for almost a year now.. I know they're losing potency, which kind of makes me sad, but living in an apartment-- I just haven't felt "safe" doing them. Too many strange noises/disturbances here for me.... I don't really care for tripping in the middle of a large city. I need to arrange a camping trip, somewhere where there's streams, a lake.. lots of woods, no cars.

      On mescaline-like substances I've found myself in postures similar to that employed by Hindus, Muslims in prayer... some others, I would imagine. I can't explain why, other than I was in communion with "God". The positions of prayer, postures, etc.. all felt "right".

      So many times I felt, "I get it". So many things right under our noses ;)


      For a few months I was eating a capsule of ground mushroom powder a night, or every other night. It was almost like an anti-depressant, without the crap side effects.
    • Jsnllnd, on 07/03/2008, -0/+1QFT. All very well said, right on the money ^_^ Go in it with confidence, in a good mood, you can't be nervous about it really, it's a mellow buzz if you want it to be, i
  • verivalta, on 07/02/2008, -0/+1I tried them a couple times. All I remember is staring at a campfire, watching it pulse for hours on end. Oh and driving in downtown Seattle high off my ass. The first experience was definitely better than the second.
  • sjohnson0881, on 07/02/2008, -2/+1U r talking about the air fresheners right?
  • qbthemc, on 07/02/2008, -2/+7I am going to snitch on all of you.
  • geminister, on 07/02/2008, -0/+1This isn't exactly news. This kind of stuff was what the "crazy drug liberals" were saying all along. How this suddenly has become an acceptable fact is beyond me, but i greet it with joy. Now if we only could get those extreme laws fixed, we're in for a real trip. So to speak..
  • thePsilocybe, on 07/02/2008, -0/+1I HAVE COME!
  • glenSM, on 07/03/2008, -0/+3If you ask anyone who has been on them you will only be told good, but if you ask some biblebasher or someone who hasnt been on them before you will only hear bad. I know who i believe, myself :D
  • NeoHomer, on 07/03/2008, -5/+0"New Research Shows Magic Mushrooms Good for You"
    Tell that to the kid in my area who picked and ate himself right onto the highway and was turned into human paste. Lame.
    • flameboy, on 07/03/2008, -0/+2Just because something can be generally good doesn't mean it can't also be bad in some circumstances. Don't be so narrow minded. That kid was simply irresponsible in using a powerful psychoactive drug by himself.
  • sodade, on 07/03/2008, -0/+5"97% were college graduates and 56% had post-graduate degrees."

    Well that is pretty telling, can you imagine being a dumb redneck on mushrooms?

    • marx2k, on 07/03/2008, -0/+0Probably be tripping about, imagining Budweiser.... IN SPACE!!!
  • rockefeller2, on 07/03/2008, -3/+6I was at this guys house once and he got a bit of a reputation for getting weak LSD. So I took 1 dose. I wasn't feeling ***** for like 15 minutes or so, so I took another one. I waited another 15 minutes and took another. 3 hits in all. Then it hit me all at once. Gosh, I was somewhat used to a little bending and swaying of the visuals but now everything was completely *****. I was walking through a downtown area trying to get to a club and the buildings were swaying like mad. Everything around me was swaying, things that would normally be stationary were crawling and moving. I seriously thought that I might be permafried at that point. I knew I wasn't going to peak until about 6 hours after I injested the third dose. I recall just sitting right up against a speaker for like 2 hours at the club. It finally wore off and that was one of the last times I took it. I swear I saw streamers behind moving objects for at least 2 years afterwards. People would walk past my cube and there would be a stretched out stream of color behind them.
  • Jorin, on 07/03/2008, -0/+1http://www.cbc.ca/health/story/2006/07/10/mushroom ...

    CBC did a report on the Johns Hopkins experiment from 2006. Not sure if it's the same 2006 experiment refered to in this article.

    The editorial on CBC TV ended with a dramatized image of pharmaceutical corporations selling psilocybin in pill form and suggested that could be the way of the future. Not sure if I like that idea or not...
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