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Sex is Safer in Nevada Brothels than Porn Sets
laist.com — Fact: Since the institution of mandatory condoms in Nevada's brothels in 1988, not a single sex worker has contracted HIV. Talk about a good track record, eh? Contrast that to the porn industry where it's "supposedly" safe. Guess again, it's not at all.
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- Dokument, on 11/30/2007, -9/+6dugg for the classic line of the night.
- bwhite, on 11/30/2007, -1/+27Next stop ... Nevada
- andregriffin, on 11/30/2007, -2/+7Shhh, what happens there, stays there...
- fantasticFlan, on 11/30/2007, -0/+7Just what happens in Vegas, everything else is filmed for private distribution.
- merreborn, on 11/30/2007, -0/+2Lemme tell ya, the whole "What happens here, stays here" thing apparently does *not* apply to pubic lice.
- BossKeyy, on 11/30/2007, -0/+1lice?
- KJSatz, on 11/30/2007, -0/+1You know...like crabs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crab_louse
- BossKeyy, on 12/13/2007, -0/+1I know this is a little arbitrary to be posting at this point, but I read "public"...
- KJSatz, on 11/30/2007, -0/+1You know...like crabs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crab_louse
- BossKeyy, on 11/30/2007, -0/+1lice?
- ozid, on 11/30/2007, -1/+13to the bunnyranch! we riiiiiiiide!
- Araxen, on 11/30/2007, -6/+114Brothels should be legal throughout the United States. It's a woman or man's right to choose how they spend their money.
- fantasticFlan, on 11/30/2007, -1/+34And how they use their bodies
- ApokalypseNow, on 11/30/2007, -0/+38And who they screw, as long as it is legally consensual!
- WikiEasy, on 11/30/2007, -22/+3Out of like 20 replies, this is the only one dugg up. Shows you how sad sex life is here...
- norman619, on 11/30/2007, -3/+7Speak for yourself buddy.
- nova9, on 11/30/2007, -5/+2you too, brothel lover.
- norman619, on 11/30/2007, -3/+7Speak for yourself buddy.
- plizard, on 11/30/2007, -2/+5but but how will they tax it??
- norman619, on 11/30/2007, -6/+1I see what you did there... :)
- garf12, on 11/30/2007, -0/+9What do you mean how will they tax it? It will just be like any other legal company pays taxes. Stupid question.
- prophetpimp, on 11/30/2007, -1/+2service tax.
10% for oral, 20 for Normal and 30% for Anal.
- spyd3rweb, on 11/30/2007, -0/+11Registered Companions ftw!
- AgentMull, on 11/30/2007, -0/+2You mean Registered Weighted Companion Cube?
- nesibus, on 11/30/2007, -1/+4I've been trying to convince my wife this way of thinking, its not working.
- 15thPD, on 11/30/2007, -1/+5You've been trying to convince your wife to use condoms? Sit down, we need to have a talk son.
- dontaskagain, on 11/30/2007, -0/+6Not just in the USA either. There's well known brothels here in the UK which the police turn a blind eye to. They know it's better to have a subtle out of the way building supplying the demand than have women walking the streets (potential victims for nefarious people).
If they are to allow it here i wish they would make it legal if only to maintain the standard like in Nevada. - mozzep, on 11/30/2007, -0/+16it's not strictly a matter of "choosing how to spend one's money," it's more a matter of victimless actions and consenting adults. What if I wanted to spend my money to hire a hitman? surely that should be illegal.
- Corneileus, on 11/30/2007, -5/+3I have no problem with prostitution, but if you have to pay for sex, I will reserve the right to laugh at you.
- svartgotik, on 11/30/2007, -0/+19You pay for sex regardless. Directly or indirectly, that ***** is never free.
- sjbdallas, on 12/01/2007, -0/+2Last time I got in an arguement with my wife, I added up that she costs me about 1000 bucks a month. It didnt' go over so well when i told her I could hire a maid and a hooker, have a cleaner house, more sex, and save money.
- labmouse42, on 12/04/2007, -0/+2Don't forget you would have to hire someone to nag you too.
- Barbarino, on 11/30/2007, -2/+1Your community sets the standards, not you.
- Gerz1219, on 11/30/2007, -1/+5If your community decides that black people have to sit in the back of the bus, does that make it moral? The individual's rights, which are concrete, trump those of "the community", which is a very nebulous and subjective concept.
- codered1322, on 11/30/2007, -2/+6No way, God would be sooooooo pissed.
- ellecon, on 12/02/2007, -0/+4Regulating prostitution protects prostitutes from contracting diseases, prevents Johns from spreading these diseases, takes money out of the pockets of organized crime, and stops underage girls from being pimped out on the street.
I feel sorrow for the prostitute who contracts a disease, but I feel worse for the wife who contracts the same disease unknowingly through her John husband. I may have an opinion on whether selling sex is a good choice for adult women, but it's safe to say that prostitution is definitely a bad choice for a 12 or 13 year old girl. I think most logical people would also agree that government-regulated industries provide safer working environments for their employees than criminal gangs or pimps.
People need to get over sex. Why be embarrassed about something that almost all adult human beings do in some form? Some people like it more than others, and some people want to sell or buy it. So what?
- epj3, on 11/30/2007, -1/+54Fact: Only Dwight Schrute talks like this. You never talk like this. Fact: You are drinking grape soda. You never drink grape soda.
- blackbeardtron, on 11/30/2007, -4/+2Fact: I am older... I am wiser... Do not mess with me.
- nova9, on 11/30/2007, -3/+2dugg down
- phre3k187, on 11/30/2007, -6/+1Thats what she said!
- MiDri, on 11/30/2007, -2/+4Question: What kind of bear is best? False, it's the black bear.
Fact: Bears eat beats; bears, beats, battle star galactica.- ElectroBot, on 11/30/2007, -0/+2Michael! ... Michael!
- blackbeardtron, on 11/30/2007, -4/+2Fact: I am older... I am wiser... Do not mess with me.
- zeromancer, on 11/30/2007, -6/+82i never understood why prostitution was illegal in the first place. i'm sick and ***** tired of laws being made on behalf of some peoples' morals. and i'm even more sick and tired of sex being such a cliche thing in america. if it wasn't, then 12 year old girls and boys wouldn't use it as a rebellious thing to do. we have such a problem with early teen pregnancy because kids know how much sex bothers their parents, so they do it to piss them off. same with drugs. american society pisses me off.
- Stormwysper, on 11/30/2007, -34/+3Sick of laws being based off morals? So you are ok with rape and murder then?
- zeromancer, on 11/30/2007, -1/+37that has nothing to do with morals. that has everything to do with being a victim of a crime. tell me. who is the victim in prostitution? who is the victim in gambling? who is the victim when i get high? all of these things are regulated by government because people disagree with these acts based on their morals. and they are all victimless crimes.
- pbaehr, on 11/30/2007, -1/+29Those laws are based on protection of another individuals rights. Victimless laws are a waste of time and often create additional problems by creating a black market.
- jexdawg, on 11/30/2007, -1/+19Rape and murder harm, prostitution does not.
- alexanEmpire, on 11/30/2007, -1/+14Alright.....who let the mormon into Digg?
- Stormwysper, on 11/30/2007, -0/+3I'm Catholic. Though I wish I was mormon so I could have more then one wife.
- shakestheclown, on 11/30/2007, -0/+7watch out, your straw catches fire easy...
- nova9, on 11/30/2007, -11/+1Prostition lowers morals... cheapens sex, sex is used for procreation, not for some cheap thrill/bang for your buck thing.
- HouseFan, on 11/30/2007, -0/+4Let them decide for themselves, shall we?
- blackbeardtron, on 11/30/2007, -0/+4Heh... Bang for your buck.
/14-year-old - Riffraffs, on 11/30/2007, -0/+2that's your opinion, what makes you think it should be forced on anyone else.
- Trebek, on 11/30/2007, -1/+2Hey, those bastards deserved it.
- rkzda, on 11/30/2007, -9/+3Most girls do not have sex just to piss off their parents...they do it because their boyfriends tend to do everything short of forcing them. You do know most girls would take back the the first time if they could?
- qualish, on 11/30/2007, -0/+6So we should legislate that decision for them?
- shakestheclown, on 11/30/2007, -0/+7Spare me the Lifetime drama, Tori Spelling
- bukiyou, on 11/30/2007, -0/+2not sure why you're getting dugg down.
really young kids have sex for a variety of reasons, it's not just rebellion against their parents.
- chihsuanmen, on 11/30/2007, -0/+7Sex isn't a cliche thing in America, if it was then it wouldn't be such a rebellious thing to do. I think the word you're looking for is taboo. We can thank our Puritanical forefathers for that.
- Xelseragoth, on 11/30/2007, -1/+7You need to spend more time with teens if you think they are just having sex to piss off their parents... Drugs I agree with a lot, occasionally sex, but for the most part they are doing it because of hormones/peer pressure (although I hate to use that term).
- ScottyMcBaggs, on 11/30/2007, -1/+9Or cause it, you know, FEELS GOOD?
- Xelseragoth, on 11/30/2007, -0/+3Well, yeah, that would be the obvious answer, but I guess I meant the first time, before they know it feels good. Anyway, my point still stands.
- ScottyMcBaggs, on 11/30/2007, -1/+9Or cause it, you know, FEELS GOOD?
- shanal, on 12/01/2007, -0/+1i swear i have sex only to piss off my parents. I swear it.
- Stormwysper, on 11/30/2007, -34/+3Sick of laws being based off morals? So you are ok with rape and murder then?
- satanatnmtedu, on 11/30/2007, -0/+14Go figure. Most, if not all, brothels require the use of a condom for all sex acts. The are more condoms used with coitus in porn, but I have yet to see on used for oral sex.
- DMCer, on 11/30/2007, -0/+18Why is this surprising? Condom-mandatory brothels are safer than "drinking semen from someone's ass" porn sets? Who knew?!
- qualish, on 11/30/2007, -0/+7D:
- BoneheadFarker, on 11/30/2007, -3/+3I'm pretty sure that condom use for oral sex in the porn industry would probably kill off a few genres.
- DMCer, on 11/30/2007, -0/+18Why is this surprising? Condom-mandatory brothels are safer than "drinking semen from someone's ass" porn sets? Who knew?!
- JGib, on 11/30/2007, -13/+0sex lol
- Bahimiron, on 11/30/2007, -2/+37...yet my porn star girlfriend is still pissed at me for all those Nevada whores I banged.
- republicker, on 11/30/2007, -5/+26I don't think bukkake w/ 100 strangers is safe at all.
- pintomp3, on 11/30/2007, -1/+23i would assume it's because condoms aren't always used in porn, and you don't have a lot of gangbangs in the brothels.
- WikiEasy, on 11/30/2007, -3/+29Digg is even safer...
- dondara, on 11/30/2007, -1/+7Totally. There is 0% chance of catching any form of STD. I mean, what are you going to catch from a virgin?
- labmouse42, on 12/04/2007, -0/+1A cold
- lydecker, on 11/30/2007, -0/+5A sore elbow?
- progrockguy, on 11/30/2007, -1/+0OK, lydecker wins... close this thread.
- strypersarmy, on 12/01/2007, -0/+1Tennis elbow
- dondara, on 11/30/2007, -1/+7Totally. There is 0% chance of catching any form of STD. I mean, what are you going to catch from a virgin?
- MrBlackkcalBrM, on 11/30/2007, -6/+1yes
- glmory, on 11/30/2007, -1/+42"There's been a lot of sex in Nevada for the past 20 years and still, the brothels have a 100% track record in preventing HIV. Put that up against the 2004 HIV outbreak in the porn industry where four actors tested positive. One of the four was a woman from Montreal who told the production that she would not perform anal scenes without a condom. Upon arrival to the set, she was told to leave or perform sans condom, with anal. Needing to pay a VISA bill, she went ahead and flew home to Canada HIV positive. "
So, one industry has infected 4 people, one zero... It sounds to me as if both industries have an amazing track record on this subject, considering the porn industry unsafe for 4 infections in many years is pushing things. The porn industry has quite good standards, and when they are followed correctly no one gets HIV. Compare this to the estimated 1 million Americans who picked up HIV, mostly by unprotected sex...- BoneheadFarker, on 11/30/2007, -0/+0Weren't those 4 cases in Brazil or somewhere in South America, which caused new standards to be set for condom use in porn there?
- Governator88, on 11/30/2007, -0/+5"The porn industry has quite good standards, and when they are followed correctly no one gets HIV."
True but they could still get one of the other 30 or so STDs by not using a condom. - alphakappa, on 12/01/2007, -0/+0all this talk about HIV is fine, but what about Herpes, which is not prevented by simply wearing condoms!
- urbandistrict, on 11/30/2007, -3/+19This just in... stealing needles from the dumpsters of medical clinics are safer than sharing needles with homeless junkies. People everywhere react indifferently.
- Maluhkai, on 11/30/2007, -16/+3I hate to bring this up, but is this front page because Ron Paul is being backed by a brothel owner? From Nevada?
- Maluhkai, on 11/30/2007, -4/+2I'll take the buries n silence as a yes.
- jeremymccurdy, on 11/30/2007, -0/+3Take the buries as you being a complete tool, this has not a goddamn thing to do with Ron Paul.
- Maluhkai, on 11/30/2007, -4/+2I'll take the buries n silence as a yes.
- DawningImage, on 11/30/2007, -1/+22The reason brothels are safer than porn movies, or even your average prostitute, is because (A) workers at brothels have to be tested monthly (bi monthly, once every two months, depending on the brothel) for STDs (making it safe for the consumer) and (B) condoms must be used at all times, the women are usually on some kind of birth control, and they aren't alone in an alley (making it safe for the worker). I don't understand why other states don't allow brothels. People are going to go out and buy sex no matter what they do. Why not make it legal and safer. It makes sense in my mind.
- Pinkertinkle, on 11/30/2007, -0/+7Dr. Sharon Mitchell is one fake ass doctor.
- bigteebo, on 11/30/2007, -1/+7With the porn industry, you have a fixed # of people schtupping each other, all with regular disease testing. If everyone's disease free, no diseases get spread. If one infected person goes on a sctupping spree on sets, it spreads like the latest Windows vulnerability, naturally.
In brothels, it could be any John off the street with or without diseases, bringing in an X factor. But, there's condoms.- wvdavis, on 11/30/2007, -0/+4But unlike Windows... there has never been a zero day STD vulnerability. So I guess you could say that both the Nevada whore houses & the porn industry are safer than Windows.
- psykiv, on 11/30/2007, -0/+12Leave it to digg to bring up microsoft windows in a discussion about STD's and prostitutes.
- bubbadoo989, on 11/30/2007, -1/+1Dr. Sharon Mitchell... Hah! I remember when this stick-figure skank was licking other girls c&@* in xxx features. She was disguisting then and she's even more so now.
- MrCali626, on 11/30/2007, -0/+3I am upset that the porn stars myspace link doesnt work!
- jlungu, on 11/30/2007, -0/+1did sharon mitchell get a nose job?
- badave, on 11/30/2007, -0/+3Brothels are expensive... I have no money.
- nutsackninja, on 11/30/2007, -6/+1It's the only way most of you diggers will ever get laid.
- Zippo, on 11/30/2007, -0/+5"you diggers"
Keep in mind, you're also on digg, Mr. "nutsackninja".
- Zippo, on 11/30/2007, -0/+5"you diggers"
- nebion, on 11/30/2007, -0/+1How is this anything other than obvious?
Prostitutes (other than really cheap street walkers and victims of human trafficing) generally are very careful, and only have sex with a condom, and often refuse drunk customers. They're less likely to be diseased than random easy girls who are drunk in bars. - SwordofKahless, on 11/30/2007, -0/+1Sharon Mitchell? Isn't she Phil and Grants brother? Wow she came along way since running the Queen Vic.
- fewmit, on 11/30/2007, -0/+0DOCTOR Sharon Mitchell??? How weird is that?
- exomni, on 11/30/2007, -0/+0How is this surprising? In the porn industry it's all about going further and pushing the envelope, with unprotected anal sex becoming commonplace the more unknown the company is. In brothels you wear a condom and sometimes you aren't even allowed to kiss.
- bbqribs, on 11/30/2007, -0/+0"During the 2004 HIV scare, Republican Assemblymember Tim Leslie introduced AB 2798, which would have compelled all performers to use condoms. However, Paul Koretz who represented West Hollywood and parts of the southern San Fernando Valley tabled it saying it was put together too hastily"
Wow. Paul Koretz is the jackass that kept pushing that totally ridiculous "microstamping" bill in yet another attack on California gun owners, but he was against a law compelling adult entertainers to use condoms? - xynn, on 11/30/2007, -0/+0what about lesbian porn? is it still safe to watch that?
- sexydarin, on 11/30/2007, -4/+2condoms would kill the porn industry. I hate condom scenes. They look disgusting.
- chrispr, on 11/30/2007, -1/+1I agree. I'd keep all my "FUKKEN SAVED" porn and re-use.
- nova9, on 11/30/2007, -3/+1I guess it degrades human decency... bad for the public to see all the flith if it was legalized widely. Your kids would get pussy that way, probably the easier way lol. It just gives you that much more temptation to screw around if they were all over the place.
- robfis, on 11/30/2007, -0/+2there's no way it would only cost $1300 dollars to edit out condoms...no way! frame by frame that would take a long time. most compostiting places charge 700 bucks an hour, 28 bucks an hour would be some kid in his basement using AE and resulting blurry penises.
what a crock. - lordmetroid, on 11/30/2007, -0/+1What about me the compurer *euhm* *cough* nerd who never will get sex in his life unless I go to Nevada?
I want more brothels! - xero69, on 11/30/2007, -0/+2VD is nothing to clap about
- fuzzbox, on 11/30/2007, -0/+2in today's shocking news, an industry that has 100% condom use has less STDs than an industry that is lax on condom policies.
What's he follow-up story, that the sky is blue? - musclemuse, on 12/01/2007, -0/+0It seems that the risk of pregnancy on porn sets is more of a concern than that of life threatening diseases. Either there's a lack of education concerning the pill (i.e. there's no protection from HIV and STIs) or they simply haven't got their priorities right. I assume it's more, uh, "aesthetically pleasing" without condoms, regarding pornography. Hmm.
- mlerner, on 12/01/2007, -0/+1Well I prefer the hands on approach.
- Frisbinator, on 12/02/2007, -0/+1For anyone who thinks that prostitution is a victimless crime, I would direct them to an article submitted to DIGG 3 months ago, which received 1500 DIGGS: http://digg.com/offbeat_news/The_Price_of_Being_a_ ...
- incrediblemoo, on 12/04/2007, -0/+1Rotoscoping a penis would be wack.
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