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Evolution of Fedora Core Linux
linux-noob.com — This is a review written by a daily user of Fedora, looking at how it has changed from its initial release FC1 to the latest (as yet unreleased) FC5. The ideal being the article was to give people a chance to learn a little bit more about Fedora and how it has matured.
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- remotedeals, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This is a great review :)
- GuyHersh, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1Dupe: http://digg.com/linux_unix/The_evolution_of_Fedora_Core_Linux
Athough this digg does go right to the story.. - illynova, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1Why use Fedora core when there are so many better distros out there? Fedora has too much crap installed by default. IIRC, it has six media players, two office editors and more!
Just install debian/ubuntu/gentoo, and use their package managers to ONLY install what you need. :) - anyweb, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2you can totally customise what you do install/don't install during setup, so your point is not valid
if you don't believe me look at this screenshot
http://www.linux-noob.com/screenshots/fedora/4/install/screenshot-0012.html
when you click on the 'details' option to the right of a selection, you get the choice to select/de-select individual packages
fedora rocks ! - znxster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0apologies for the dupe story.. but is linking http://www.osnews.com under differing titles for all its isn't exactly digg worthy imho
- RandallBe, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1illynova you have no idea what your talking about do you? gentoo takes forever and while debian is just crap while ubuntu is just a copy of crap(its still crap). Fedora is great and if you know what your doing the installs are minimal. If you can't install fedora in minimal mode you should really just stick with windows. The graphical menu has tons of install options including minimal which is really what you need for small time installs.
- modernbob, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The thing about Fedora that is nice is options. All that "crap" means that you have options during install. When so many people have 300 gig of hard drive space why not load up everything (8Gig) and remove stuff you really don't need. There are some really good GUI yum tools like kyum and yumex that will list all the packages you have installed and then you can get rid of stuff you don't want. the thing is you use what you are comforatble with! If you can admin Fedora better than something else then thats what you should use. Fedora is well supported and there are many good websites like linux-noob.com to get help. I really don't see how you can go wrong here.
- Dennern, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I love Fedora, It has been my distro of choice for a year.
I don't see what the fuss about this supposed crap is, I find that Fedora Core 4 is very stable and very fast.
The only thing i can recommend is to install YUM.... - acidzebra, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Que the screaming monkeys: "DISTRO X SUCKS. USE DISTRO Y!"
I use FC4 for my MythTV box, and its rock solid. Yum is a fine package manager, my only complaint would be missing support for all those funky propietary formats (mp3, flash, you know) but with www.freshrpms.net and www.atrpms.net added to your repositories that is soon fixed.
All in all, certainly not a bad distro. - snoopgst, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0I still like my Ubuntu over any other.
http://aljitech.com/ Digg's Arcade - packetst0rm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I've used fedora for a good few months but didn't get on with it personally I don't like the package system and as much as the fedora/redhat heads tried to explain it to me I still found it easier to use debian based distro's or gentoo (which I feel has the best package system).
- djsmiley2k, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Funny really, i normally live on slashdot, but i saw my friend znx had a story over here.
After hearing on slashdot how WONDERFUL digg is, with its less trolls i find that the flames are ripe and there's pretty much NO conversation concerning the article (well far higher noise:sense ratio that slashdot.... Am i missing some point?)
Either way LOVE the article znx shame i still love gentoo more :D - lagerbottom, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1djsmiley2k...
Yeah I love that too. There are tools on /. but this place is full of whining 14 year olds. Nobody intelligent ever discusses the article. - seacow, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Fedora didn't evolve it was intelligently created.
- Smokezz, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0djsmiley2k: Instead here, you get 10 little kids posting OMG DUPE on every story that just might be a dupe...
Pretty much every post turns into a flame war, usually with the same people finding something to flame about. Its really gone downhill. - Gnascher, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Evolution is only a theory! This MUST be Intelligent Design.
- BenjyD, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0"My experiences with Stentz are that it is a very solid and capable OS..."
An odd comment to put at the end of a review describing kernel panics and regressions in updates. In my experience, FC4 is very unstable in desktop use: in three separate installs, I had endless crashes in GNOME, Palm syncing over USB never worked (known bug), wireless often didn't work (known bug) and updates regressions were far more common than other distros. - anyweb, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1nothing odd about my comment
'"My experiences with Stentz are that it is a very solid and capable OS..."
[root@www fcrh]# w
15:09:41 up 139 days, 3:31, 2 users, load average: 3.06, 1.25, 0.76
USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE JCPU PCPU WHAT
anyweb pts/0 h25n4fls33o1096. 12:56 1.00s 0.15s 0.04s sshd: anyweb [priv]
[root@www fcrh]# uname -a
Linux www.linux-noob.com 2.6.12-1.1447_FC4 #1 Fri Aug 26 20:29:51 EDT 2005 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
yup that's Stentz !
in addition "Stentz certaintly had some issues but they have since been resolved and are well documented. Is it stable ? definetly. This site (linux-noob.com) runs exclusively on Fedora Core release 4 and the current uptime is right here for you to see. "
My point being, once the initial bugs (which i listed) were fixed or a workaround used, the os was very usable.
The entire article is hosted on a Fedora Core 4 box, and it's solid as a rock, so I stand by it !
cheers
anyweb - veracon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I personally prefer Ubuntu over Fedora, but this does indeed look like a nice article.
- BenjyD, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0anyweb, I think there a very few linux distros that can't provide that kind of stability in a server - after all, it's a limited set of well-tested software and generally reasonably standard hardware. That's pretty much baseline stability you would expect from any distro.
Comparing distros on the quality of their updates, the stability of their desktop and their support of consumer-level hardware, FC4 comes out behind alternatives such as Ubuntu. - onefish2, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Excellent, Excellent review.
I have used every single Fedora release since Test1. My current server was initially RH8, then upgraded to RH9, then upgraded to Core 1, then 2. You get the idea. The box still runs flawlessly!
The review brought back so many memories. Like all the initial problems and all the crazy gyrations I went through to solve em. Oh the fun I had getting the NVidia drivers to work...4KSTACK/8KSTACK...almost forgot about that one.
Long live the Fedora project!!! - gol706, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I've really tried to like Ubuntu, but I'm still finding FC4 much more pleasant to live with. It just seams to run faster, and in my experiences has been rock solid. My machine here are work has been up 129 days, which I'm guessing was the last time there was a blackout. I almost had to reboot the machine once because a weird UI 'feature' in Eclipse caused a program that took 10 minutes to run to be executed 20 times simultaneously and locked the machine for 4 hours, since it only let me type "kill" at 1 character every 15 minutes. My "uptime pride" just wouldn't allow me to hit the power button.
The article was a little "Fedora is the greatest every" without any real reason's behind this opinion though. I've run in to some problems that had me pulling my hair out, particularly with FC3. - starheart, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I personally use Fedora for everything and I am happy with it. It could be better in many ways, but I have yet to see a distribution I am happier with. Ubuntu comes very close, but it's lack of multi-lib kills it for me. Sadly they are waiting on Debian to do it for them, which means it may be years away if ever. Debian obviously lacks it too and moves too damn slowly. Having to compile everything under Gentoo is not worth it. Yes there are binary packages, but you still end up compiling a lot of stuff. With Fedora you have source rpms if you really want to recompile something.
In the past I have ignored SuSE, because they were pay for only, or you had to wait four months to do a ftp install. I was also not impressed with what little I saw of it. But I will have to give it a try now that OpenSuSE is out.
I just installed Fedora Core 5 Test 3 and though the new theme sucks it does look like they are pointing it in the right direction with everything else, and it looks to be a very good release. What I am excited about the most is their Xen 3 support. They have a script that runs the installer to make setting up guests easier. They are also adding Xen under x86_64 support. - firehydra2k, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Fedora is a great distro, and I like how it evolved in the past years. Good article.
- Achra, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I wish I could just try it out sometime.. I've never had any redhat based distro install on a machine of mine since RH5. :( Oddly, Mandrake installs fine.. I just can't use it, because urpmi sucks so bad.
Ubuntu works fine though. - WDot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I remember FC2. Had some... Issues connecting to the Internet that were instantly resolved on an upgrade to FC3.
- jo42, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0> Fedora ... all that crap
Do a minimal server install. See how much crap does get installed.
Why do I need Bluetooth support in a minimal server install??? - FZero, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I don't like it bacause of really bad experiences with FC2 and 3. I used RH9 for a long time until Kernel 2.6 was released, than switched to FC2 - which was kinda nice, but had lots of bugs. So I was looking forward to the next release.
FC3 had a really shameful bug on the install ISOs: thay came with the wrong MD5 and this wasn't fixed for months. The download ended and i naturally chacked the MD5 sum. Fail! "Damn those bad torrents!", I thought, then downloaded directly from the FTP server. Fail again! "Damn my DSL connection!".
Long story short: I downloaded a 2 Gb file THREE TIMES until the MD5 error info popped up on some UNOFFICIAL wiki. By that time I though "if they can ***** up at something so simple, I don't want to know about the rest fo the distro" and switched to Ubuntu hoary. Never looked back ever since. - HarryBauzonia, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0After I disabled SE Linux, Fedora Core became quite usable. I've been running it as my home OS ever since core 2.
It takes some tinkering to scale it down to a workstation configuration, but this distro was intended to be that way. Way stable and no problems since the initial install/setup. - mcduck, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Great review. Fedora got a long way. I cant wait for FC5. I'm even thinking forward to FC6
- ModernDayDarwin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Somehow I knew when I first saw this article posted it would somehow boil down to a "which distro of linux is best." debate.
What is about people and their inherant desire to argue on the internet?
Might as well get my vote vote in. Fedora has it's high points and low points. I prefer slackware and will stick with that until something slaps me and says "hey check me out!" - byrons, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Sorry I don't have anything intellectual to say about Fedora other then I'll never disrespect it but what I will say is, until the day I die, slackware will be on my side.
- sunmicroman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1While I don't care much personally for RPM based distros (too many dependency issues), I am just glad to see so many people using Linux be it Fedora or something else.
- sdm011, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Digg needs many more articles like this. This is a diggable article. If I could digg it twice, I would.
- borderpatrol, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I play with Ubuntu and Fedora. Both are great systems.
- slack31337, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"I prefer slackware and will stick with that until something slaps me and says "hey check me out!" byrons
"I will say is, until the day I die, slackware will be on my side. "sunmicroman
I was a Slackware zealot forever but in order to get into corporate Linux i found that I needed to get in on a distro that is a big player in that field. Fedora has Proven to be that distro. I am running a FTP,samba,web,mail server/ workstation on FC4 w/ the 2.6.15 kernel and it is sweet. Although Slack will always have a special place in my geeky little world. - supababe, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Great review!
- anyweb, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0i appreciate all the positive comments to my article
thank you
cheers
anyweb
http://linux-noob.com - byrons, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Pleasure. You rock.
- aznboi04k, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0so what? it still has no mp3 and dvd support. so screw fedora!
- sailor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Good article...my experiences, while not always the same as yours, have always been positive.
Fedora has always been one of the top distros...I have used FC1 thru FC4 always a fast stable OS...it does require a little work to get it setup. Using the right Repositories you can get mp3 support, DVD playing and anything else you might want.
Your Debian distros run great until you start to install apps from the "universal" reopositories. I have always been impressed with Ubuntu, Knoppix and Kanotix...but these distros tend to be limited in what you can saftely install... - remotedeals, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0 aznboi04k " so what? it still has no mp3 and dvd support. so screw fedora! "
Its quite clear you have no idea what you are talking about and just thought you would toss in a flamer remark... Fedora in fact has to great extra repo's for YUM that have every package you would need... I've even gone as far as finding those repo's on the same site this article was on...
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