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Joomla! Wins Best Open Source Project Award 2006 at UK LinuxWorld

joomla.org — Joomla! won Best Linux/Open Source Project at UK Linux and Open Source Awards 2006, in London tonight. This is the second year in a row the Joomla! project has won the prestigious award. The buzz around Joomla! is driven by it's huge user base which translates into what is fastly becoming the most popular open source web content management system.

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  • hugueslamy, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11Congratulation to a CMS system that I consider to be one of the best. At M2i3.com, we're just waiting for the final 1.5 version to start converting from Drupal to Joomla.
    • ekorn, on 10/12/2007, -2/+19I'm interested in hearing what made you choose Joomla over Drupal!
    • central183, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11I second that! What makes Joomla better than Drupal. I looked hard and far to find the best CMS. Both Joomla and Drupal were on the top. But I felt like Drupal had a more refined look as well as more support.
    • manitoba98xp, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9I concur. I love Drupal, how is Joomla better, again?
    • mateo60, on 10/12/2007, -5/+6One thing I've noticed about Drupal, and this is anecdotal: I used to read The Onion and Pitchfork (pitchforkmedia.com) every day. Eventually, they both redesigned their sites to well customized Drupal sites, and I stopped going. Not on purpose, I wasn't mad or anything. Things just didn't seem to work quite as well, and things didn't seem as conveniently laid out.

      I'm no Drupal expert, I've messed with it a little, but Joomla is so easy and seems so logical, that I find it to be the best CMS for me.
    • TruthElixirX, on 10/12/2007, -9/+4Drupal > Joomla

      Pretty much for the sole reason that the vBulletin integration for Drupal is a billion times better than the vBulletin integration with Joomla.
    • goatrandy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12 I wouldn't say that Joomla is 'better' than Drupal, but I personally prefer it. My reasoning?

      1) Drupal consumed more CPU/Memory on my test machine.
      2) I like the templating system in Joomla more.
      3) It had an easier installation process for me, because my ISP has a 'one click' installer for Joomla. (Dreamhost)
      4) On my test machine Joomla handled at least 100 more connections per second with caching enabled on both Drupal and Joomla.
      5) The admin interface is not only prettier, its MUCH easier to use (in my opinion, which is the only one that counts to ME).
    • CritterNYC, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6I chose Drupal over Mambo/Joomla for PortableApps.com for many of the reasons that people have mentioned. Drupal is much more customizable (every Joomla site looks like a Joomla site... whereas with Drupal, you're just limited by your PHP/HTML/CSS skills). The add-ons setup is much more logically thought out. It natively supports custom URLs for every page out of the box.. it wasn't some add-on that seemed kludgey as with Joomla (the history behind why it's that way is pretty interesting, btw). This was one of the biggies for me. You'll note that the drupal home and about pages are:
      http://drupal.org/
      http://drupal.org/about

      While the Joomla home and "what is joomla" pages are:
      http://www.joomla.org/component/option,com_frontpage/Itemid,1/
      http://www.joomla.org/content/view/12/26/

      Now, I haven't played with Joomla in nearly a year (since I chose Drupal over it), so many of these shortcoming may have been addressed by now. But some of them, it appears, are still there.
    • raindog469, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I set up a community site in February using Joomla for a group whose administrators were just technical enough to use Yahoo Mail. They wanted a blog-type interface to post news and receive comments, a calendar, and a place to put text files and pictures. Basically, a slightly more bloggy version of Yahoo Groups.

      They couldn't figure out Joomla. At all. I ended up having to post their stories and do their updates. The whole reason behind having a CMS (letting different members of the community contribute) was shot to hell.

      In March, they asked if I could just set up Frontpage or something for them and they'd maintain it as a bunch of HTML pages. I threw up my hands and installed Drupal, asking them to give it another go, and since then everything's been fine. They do their own updates, add and delete users, handle comments, and all that stuff.

      I can't say I really have any experience with running CMS-based sites myself, other than posting the articles they wrote for that one month. But based on their experience, Drupal will be what I choose if and when I ever need a CMS myself. It just seems easier to deal with.
    • hugueslamy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I think that this version of Joomla is lacking few features to be really awesome. Example is there's no simple search engine friendly URL.

      On the other side, I want my site to be multilingual and Joomla with Joomfish is really amazing. I prefer the Joomla site templates and the way to display the modules are very powerful.

      Both lack good stats and unless you complete them with Urchin (google analytics), you won't go far.

      That is why I'm waiting for the next version of Joomla to transfer http://m2i3.com. I'm hoping that my few problem are solve. We'll see.
  • Aristocrat, on 10/12/2007, -6/+5Congratulations team! What a great day, What a great CMS! Joomla! is the best :)
  • joomlaturk, on 10/12/2007, -11/+3joomla is life
    rest is details.

    thanks joomla. you'd changed my life.
    I am proud of you.
  • beziboy, on 10/12/2007, -7/+3Joomla rocks!

    Congrats from Kosovo.

    Bez
  • vamba, on 10/12/2007, -7/+4Congratulations from Italy
    Well Done !
    I'm really proud to be a Joomler

  • Fabrice99, on 10/12/2007, -6/+3Congratulations from Belgium ;)
    Very good news !
  • jon1012, on 10/12/2007, -10/+1urggg.
  • drpeppper, on 10/12/2007, -14/+2i think wordpress is better :o
    • gstuartj, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Uh... They're for completely different kinds of websites. Wordpress is meant to power blogs, Joomla is meant to power large websites (including blogs). Joomla is much more scalable than Wordpress for large sites. Don't make opinionated statements when you do not have adequate knowledge of the product you are talking about.
  • Boulevard, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2www.duggmirror.com

    Already duggered with 40 diggs, wow.
    • gharding, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3That doesn't bode well for the CMS :)
    • skyshock21, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3http://www.duggmirror.com

      There, fixed the text to a link. Although they appear to be slacking a bit and not picking this one up. Give them a few minutes.
    • skor, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4They should have used Drupal ;)

      http://drupal.org/node/88416
      "I was slashdotted and dugg (and didn't go down)"
    • mporcheron, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3The Joomla! site already takes a lot of traffic (1.8TB monthly) excluding the forge, the digg effect probably just pushed the server a bit too far.
  • Razster, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2Joomla.org itself is now dead in the water - No longer loading up :(
  • 2012, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2My current website is Joomla. I also had websites in Mambo. I love them both. I was under the impression that Joomla was like a next generation Mambo but I am not sure. They are almost identical but both Joomla and Mambo are now two separated things and have their own sites. If anybody knows the why, what, how, or where of this, maybe post something here? I'm just curious.
  • TruthElixirX, on 10/12/2007, -9/+1digg down
  • Xolt, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2lol... Don't know if it's my connection or the fact that Joomla's site just got hit with the digg effect, but I opened the main page without a problem and now I just get 500's (within a matter of a minute). Made me laugh for a little bit.
  • andersonmanly, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Good job guys.
  • vvvv, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2"Fastly". Hahahahahahahaha nice.
    • mporcheron, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1dude ... the project was founded this time last year and has won the award two years running.
  • thorn101, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1I am not that impressed by Joomla. I find Typo3 to be more enterprise friendly.
    • gaoshan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I think you are basically correct. However, just as enterprise needs are more complex and far reaching than your average site's, Typo3 is more complex. It is a beast to learn but more what a massive deployment of a CMS would need (for an open source project, anyway).
  • JPamplin, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Well, I'm a Drupal user, not necessarily because it's so easy to setup and configure (it's not), but it has a wealth of modules, runs on Windows platforms, and seems to have an active user community. Joomla has all that too, but maybe not the Windows part (it doesn't say that it runs on Windows, but I don't know).

    We picked Drupal for our corporate intranet (developing now), and it's been very fast and stable. I congratulate Joomla for the award, but wasn't that just a "highest number of votes" popularity contest?

    JP
  • grubesteak, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@mateo60
    "Things just didn't seem to work quite as well, and things didn't seem as conveniently laid out."

    That's a design/articheture issue. If the site doesn't work as well, it's because they didn't design it with the user in mind, if I understand your statement correctly.
  • stuffhappens, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1I've done around 9 sites in Joomla - it's very good at what is does, but I am currently playing with Modx (http://modxcms.com/ ). Anyone else with a strong Joomla background had a play with it? Love to hear your thoughts.
    • gaoshan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I have also played around with Modx and think it is quite interesting. Seems like their development has slowed down alot, lately. You should also check out Xaraya, BitWeaver, CMS Made Simple, Exponent and Ovidentia if you want to compare some of the more customizable CMS projects available.
  • PJBonoVox, on 10/12/2007, -5/+1The retard in the middle with the ***** up eyes is clearly the programmer...
    • mporcheron, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Congratulations, you've managed to make yourself look like a moron

      Johan is head of the development team (on the left, if you can't read the caption) and "Chris Adams, of Rochen, who is a major sponsor of the Joomla! project was nominated as Best Linux Open Source ISP / Internet Host." (that's the guy in the middle, not a programmer)
  • torri, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3i think joomla is very limited and it really sucks that you have to turn php's safe_mode to OFF for a default install. modxcms is nice but not mature enough and slows down your workflow in critical places. Drupal is nice but... well... i tend to use typo3. it makes development really fast once you get to know it but i have to admit it is really bloated... whatever you do stay far far away from "redaxo" - a quick look at its table-structure should give any self-respecting, serious webdev (i know there aren't many(here)) the shudders...

    (aww damn, i forgot this is digg not /., so here's my diggish comment):

    Graet JOOMLA! FTW. Microsoft suxx. Can somebody tell me where to get cool firefox extensions for faster of torrent download speed with joomla? Let's hope it runs on my new MBP i'll get this week!1
    • mporcheron, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"php's safe_mode to OFF for a default install"
      This is because of Joomla! built-in extension installation system (ie, you upload the extension as a zip in your browser and Joomla! does the rest). This has been changed in the new version (1.5, currently beta) to use an FTP connection instead of only using PHP.
  • wizbor, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0Personally I think python versions of Zope http://www.zope.org/ and Plone http://plone.org combo prove to be a real clean and fast CMS. Large IRC communihty too.

  • amoeba, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Well done. Joomla is a good CMS.
    For those concerned about long urls, there are several effective extensions to rewrite to friendly urls.
    The templating system is easy to alter. You can change the entire layout of the site by editing a single file (template/index.php) to change module positioning.
    There's a lot of opinions about which CMS is the best but at the end of the day, the one that suits your requirements at the time is the best for you.
    Personally, for me, Joomla is the best.
  • Taco8412, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1DRUPAL! is the best. That's why MTV, IBM, and 100,000+ other sites use drupal.
    Joomla is bloated and complicated to navigate. Use to praise it before i became enlightened.
  • neo2remember, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Joomla is the best choice for me, as per my requirement.

    CONGRATS JOOMLA....... !!! Keep Rocking.. Waiting for 1.5 stable version.
  • jonmacgregor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Congratulations to Joomla! Well deserved award. Certainly with 1.5 coming, the most likely Open Source framework to become a default / globally adopted FOSS solution.

    I find it highly amusing that the other players (Drupal in particular) are so quick to post on here, defending their project. Drupal is not and does not compare in many key areas to Joomla!, so why do it?

    Well, Drupal needs to re-evaluate its own relationship with stakeholders ie community. For one Drupal should learn make a release that is backwards compatible and not break, something I've experienced many times. Break, broken, busted = my Drupal upgrades.

    Joomla! 1.5 is the future for me and the many tens of thousands like me. Don't compare Joomla! with a minor CMS like Drupal. Compare it with the commercial vendors. Joomla! is better than anything Microsoft offers. Go test Microsoft CMS (check out the, ouch, price) and then compare to Joomla!

    May the Joomlasphere be with you.




    • xamox, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Just wait till next year. Drupal 5.0 will destroy all. The new version will have 1-click install. A way better admin interface, way better default theme, and more goodness added to the core like jQuery and AJAX support.

      As to your comment about Drupal being a minor CMS is that why these people use it:
      Tim Berners Lee(Creator of the World Wide Web)
      NASA
      This Week in Tech
      NATO
      CERN
      MTV UK

      about the only thing minor here is your intelligence.
    • goldeneagle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0xamox: There's no need to insult a legitimate commenter. I too was amused that every time something positive is done in the Joomla world, Drupal zealots come out and diss it.

      That to me says something about intellect. More than that, the flaming by Drupaldopes is insulting and not worthy of the spirit of open source.

      What Joomla has that Drupal doesn't is obvious ... a fully functional eco-system. Grow up kids and learn some lessons from a more mature organisation. Joomla is a shining light, that we know ... Drupal could learn a good lesson by not trying to hang on to it's coat tails and stand up on its own two feet.

      PS: You can whine all you like about Joomla!... win a few awards before it continues to look like you're pissing in the wind.
    • jlleblanc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0What's sadder still is that it's mainly Joomla vs. Drupal users that get so nasty towards each other. The core devs from both projects talk to each other frequently and share a lot of good information. Of course, there's an occasional jab here and there, but nothing like the pure drivel users from both camps manage to dredge up in these discussions.

      When the Mambo/Joomla split originally occurred, the Drupal team was behind the Joomla team 100%. There's a long story behind all of that, but suffice to say, both Drupal and Joomla are huge boosters to the open source community in general.
  • central183, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0It's true this bickering is counter productive.

    It the same way Apple / Microsoft flame wars don't prove much at all. I think CMS is the future of web design and will eventually put many web designers out of business. Many clients want to update their own sites, if only it were easy enough. My boss asked me last year, "What is the best CMS" which spurred me on a long hard hunt. I chose Drupal, but I found that others like Joomla were also top notch. The hunt was very hard, and the web never did have a very clear answer who was the best.

    THE BIG THING THAT OCCURRED TO ME IS THIS: If all these CMS projects could consolidate into 2 or 3 major projects, we would have some truly killer CMS's out there. Instead we have dozens of "OK" CMS projects that could be so much better. The thing that will make a CMS awesome is when some idiot who only knows how to use Yahoo Mail, can create a web page complete with an image and text on any browser and any OS.
    • superdeluxxx, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0in my opinion it is like that with joomla. We made alot of joomla sites for clients. We always write them a customized manual for their site.
      Joomla is truely the best and easiest cms i know. also designwise (backend and frontend) its the best.
  • MeAgain, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0JOOMLA R_U_L_E_S!!!!!!!!

    JOOMLA ES LO MEJOR xDD

    VIVA JOOMLA!!!!
  • r0tt3n, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Well, this is a bit of a long post, but as a software engineer and experienced Joomla user and developer, I think I have some valuable things to contribute, so here goes.

    I've read many diggs about Joomla, and it's interesting to me that they're so often filled with comments from Drupal supporters. I wonder if the converse is also true, that diggs about Drupal are rammed with Joomla supporters, or if there is something to be read about the relative merits of Drupal over Joomla from this observation.

    I've seen very some very convincing popularity graphs showing Joomla on an explosive path, more than doubling Drupal, which is shown to be on a flat plot with little to no growth at all ( http://buytaert.net/drupal-vs-joomla-popularity ) but I don't know what to make of these. Given what appears to be a somewhat lop-sided slant towards Drupal support amongst what I think is the upper-tear of the technology field - diggers - maybe those results have been cherry-picked and don't really amount to much.

    I personally have been using Joomla since I read about its name change from mambo on /. in September of last year. As a freelance software engineer and web designer, I've been building e-commerce websites for clients using Joomla, with the VirtueMart component to handle the e-commerce side of things. I have to agree with most of what I've read here, that although dynamic page generation (CMS) is in general really great, both Joomla and Drupal have a long way to go, and for the time being, it takes a monumental effort from someone with a lot of specialized knowledge to produce anything remotely unique or customized.

    I considered and still am considering moving to Drupal, but whenever I experimented with it, I had such a hard time getting over the hurdle of not understanding their architectural decisions and terminology that I just never got into it. That's not to say that Joomla's all that much better, but it just wasn't quite as bad.

    In the future, I think both Joomla and Drupal will be a thing of the past for my purposes. I have been lobbying Google (a.k.a. writing lots of feedback) trying to encourage them to expand its Page Creator service to function more like a CMS, and to include shopping cart functionality (with tie-ins to Google Checkout). To me, this is the holy grail of CMS', because at the present moment, upgrading sites I've built is almost impossible given the number of core hacks I had to make to do anything remotely functional. If a site were built with Google Page Creator, the maintenance of the core code is left to Google to manage, leaving me with more time to think about other more important things, like where to spend my vacation.
  • pinkopanter, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I never used any of them, but will soon. Long time ago I used php-nuke on one of my sites, but had a lot of bugs to be fixed I will probably switch to joomla for my latest site http://www.articlecircle.com
  • trichnosis, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0i have 2 web sites with joomla . everybody is saying "your web sites does not look like cms" look my new site http://www.englishinformation.net/ and http://www.turkcebilgi.net/ . do you believe that they are made with a cms?
  • marthabrow, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Sounds interesting... I dont get it.
  • wwpublishinginc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Yeah I think I'll start to put joomla into my website www.famousstamps.org too. Famous Stamps - Rare and Valuable Stamps
  • wwpublishinginc, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Then again maybe not... http://www.famousstamps.org is still kind of new, do you guys think I can integrate joomla in there?
  • michelrose, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Wonderful! Things never change.
  • pinkopanter, on 10/11/2007, -1/+0zope.org is an excelent aplication and I plan to combine it with one of my web directories http://www.esearch.us
  • webgrupnet, on 10/11/2007, -1/+0Drupal support amongst what is the upper-tear of the technology field http://www.paksoyevdeneve.com
  • webgrupnet, on 10/11/2007, -1/+0I have 2 web sites with joomla .transport my web site http://www.evdennakliyateve.com and http://www.acarlarnakliyat.com
  • selenafabe, on 10/11/2007, -1/+0Our site provide information on business information, and some joomla/webmaster information. http://www.tuzcuogluevdeneve.org
  • selenafabe, on 10/11/2007, -1/+0im change my web site joomla system, are you help me ! my web site http://www.tabeladunyasi.com
  • webgrupnet, on 10/11/2007, -1/+0why is change joomla system your web site. Because your web site very nice. my web site is http://www.hayrioglu.com
  • TroyM, on 10/10/2007, -1/+0I have been using Joomla for a long time. I switched to Joomla from Mambo. I am pretty happy with it. It is very search engine friendly either. Check out this JOOMLA site http://www.7seo.com and its Google ranking then you will see how professional Joomla was developed...

    Thanks
    Troy
  • teknoloji, on 10/10/2007, -1/+0Evden eve nakliyat ve taşımacılık hizmetleri üzerine http://www.evdenevenakliyatcim.com http://www.evdenevenakliyatcim.net
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  • nakliyatlar, on 10/10/2007, -1/+0nice article...
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  • sagaxx, on 10/10/2007, -1/+0http://www.eforreklam.com http://www.efortasarim.com http://www.efortotem.com http://www.magictail.net http://www.acdanismanlik.com http://www.saga.name.tr http://www.sentezreklam.com
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  • elrunks, on 10/10/2007, -1/+0it is great thanks. http://www.egegelisim.org
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