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Linux MCE - Whole house media

linuxmce.com — LinuxMCE is a free, open source add-on to Ubuntu including a 10' UI, complete whole-house media solution with pvr + distributed media, and the most advanced smarthome solution available. It is stable, easy to use, and requires no knowledge of Linux and only basic computer skills.

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  • patterbt, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4link does not work, is the website down?
    • djlosch, on 10/12/2007, -2/+35http://www.duggmirror.com

      as one of the big ubuntu mythtv guys (my guide: http://www.djlosch.com/article_How-to%3A_Ubuntu_Edgy_and_MythTV_and_Hauppauge_PVR-150 ) i'll have to look into this. some of the "seamlessness" in the video looks a little hoaky. there has to be some hardware running in the background to do things like turn the TV on automatically.
    • sexycommando, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10wow, not trying to be rude or anything, and I'm sure this program is awesome, but that website just looks awful.
    • Ouze, on 10/12/2007, -11/+2I suppose this is crappy of me, but is anyone else burying as lame every story that gets to the frontpage and returns a 404/offline/unreachable/wordpress error? There have been so many of these the last few days it would make more sense to just browse duggmirror instead.
    • bobbob1016, on 10/12/2007, -10/+4This guy is the exact opposite end of the linux spectrum than the "Linux runs ontop of Windows" guy. I hope no one thinks this is really out of the box. I think this is possible with a lot of config, and gigabit ethernet on every computer, to stream the media, but not out of the box.
    • antdude, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5http://duggmirror.com/linux_unix/Linux_MCE_Whole_house_media/ for referrers blockers.
    • aiten, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13@bobbob1016

      Having myself tried a mythtv based Linux Media Centre (albeit not this one) I can confirm that yes, it detected all the devices I have (tv, network, all remote computers) out of the box. Forget that you 'think it wont work out of the box', a lot of people think Linux is hard to use, but it isn't. People are very anti-change, would rather simply slander new products for no good reason, and don't bother trying things out.
    • BlkGuyAtThePrty, on 10/12/2007, -6/+2Ironic, no? http://img68.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ironicxu9.jpg
    • bobbob1016, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10@aiten I run Linux. I have Ubuntu Edgy on my desktop, and my Tablet. I have Kubuntu on my other laptop. The first Linux I tried was RedHat 9. I'm not anti-change, I'm anti-BS.
    • GoatBnn, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3the windows MCE is not vista MCE...its the one from 5 years ago. Thats like comparing Mac OSX to Windows 95...

      This video is skewed from the start.
    • utkwes, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@djlosch : The TV turning on / lights dimming, is the built in home automation programs, etc. Probably through X11 and the like. The video description says "and the most advanced smarthome solution available."
    • mikelieman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3MisterHouse lets you add your own scripts in Perl.

      http://misterhouse.sourceforge.net/

      MythTV does the rest.

    • Porksmash, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@djlosch

      The automatic control of the TV and other A/V equipment is handled by an IR blaster. It is pretty much the same thing as a remote except controlled by the PC and not your hand. They are wonderful :D

      Keep in mind that the TV isn't really 'off' its just waiting for the power signal from the remote to turn the tube on.
  • FuzzyCat, on 10/12/2007, -2/+21
    It went down not long after I posted this. There is a Google video though;

    http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-4422887272477313460&q=linuxmce

    • FuzzyCat, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1
      .. seems to be back up again....
    • tyler9xp, on 10/12/2007, -10/+4rofl

      "Linux MCE maintains the philosophy that if you're using a Media Center PC, it's all about the media, stupid, not the PC."

      Oh, wow, that's a new concept. Why didn't you think of that first, Windows developers?
    • ickyfreak, on 10/12/2007, -7/+22The propaganda machine is ran overtime to produce that comparison video. You can tell the narrator is biased...


      (That said the Linux MCE looks cool!)
    • Aliarse, on 10/12/2007, -6/+39I really, REALLY, want to punch the guy talking, in the face, repeatedly.

      Next time you're at home depot, see if they've got an offer on new voices.
    • ickyfreak, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1Yooou meeeean ooonnneee thaaat iiiiisn't soooo mooonoootoonooouus?
    • Stonekeeper, on 10/12/2007, -3/+14That vid has 6 mins of black at the end for me.
    • pred8tr, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Wow...what insurgence factory did this guy come from? The Linux MCE propaganda was spilling out of every syllable. Propaganda mill aside I am very impressed with what I saw. Sure, many of the touted features will require additional equipment (home automation, ir blasters, and bluetooth dongles go a long way) but I must say that at least via the feature list this seems to be the most packed Linux PVR I've seen so far. I've been running MythTV on Fedora and afterwards KnoppMyth for a while now and it has sufficed but I expect I will try this pretty soon. Given the difficulty of setting up even the most basic MythTV for the non-uber1337 though, I think the claim of being able to achieve FULL FUNCTIONALITY automagically with little to no linux knowledge may be a bit of a stretch... but I cannot wait to try it to find out for sure!
    • SEMW, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16> Wow...what insurgence factory did this guy come from? The Linux MCE propaganda was spilling out of every syllable.

      The guy said something like "We integrated xxx into Linux MCE..." at one point in the video, so I'm guessing he's one of the developers.

      I did find it interesting how he showed the icon for Vista's Media centre in the introductory screen, yet used an XP box to do the actual comparison. Methinks one or more of his points would have been nullified by comparing with the latest version...

      I was also rather amused by his comparison of control options. "With Windows you use this complicated remote control, but LinuxMCE is so simple you can control it with ONLY THREE BUTTONS [whispering]attached to a gyroscopic mouse[/whispering]". Yeah, because an interface so complicated it needs a mouse to navigate is really much more simple than one designed to be navigated with dedicated buttons and arrow keys, sure...

      Plus, you *can* use a gyroscopic mouse to control WMC if you like, but I can't imagine why anyone would want to -- I mean, gyroscopic mice are fun to play around with, but they're no Wiimote.
    • Dragonspawn, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11I dual boot ubuntu and XP MCE currently, so I'm not anti MS or Linux, but that video was just so hard to watch. Annoying voice that was totally biased and rubbished absolutely anything Microsoft. If you think your product is better, just show it to the public fairly and they will see its better, but if you have to rubbish the opposition it shows you and your product up.

      That said I may have a play with Linux MCE, but I hope you can use the MCE remote with it. The guy claims its more complicated as it has more buttons, but being able to press a recorded tv button as opposed to waving your hand in the air to find a menu item, sure seems like the MCE remote would be easier to me.
    • sirhomer, on 10/12/2007, -3/+152007 is the year of the Linux MEDIA CENTER!
    • Tahiri, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11" I mean, gyroscopic mice are fun to play around with, but they're no Wiimote."

      Actually it is, it's even made by the same company that Nintendo bought the wiimote technology from.

      It's not like the wiimote detects some magic new form of motion other motion detectors don't. You can quit kissing Nintendo's butt anytime now.
    • SEMW, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3> It's not like the wiimote detects some magic new form of motion other motion detectors don't.

      Uh, yes it does. Not all other motion detectors, but certainly gyroscopic mice. A gyroscopic mouse is basically a set of accelerometers; which can detect *changes* in position, but not *absolute* position. That is, you can't 'point' them at something (like a menu item) directly. A wiimote also has accelerometers, but in addition it triangulates it's absolute position and orientation from a set of infrared LEDs in the bar you put over your television. Thus, you can point it directly at an item on your TV and the cursor will be at that exact point. You understand the difference now?
  • Narwaffle, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10"with the option of ... broadcasting your voice in the house over the TVs"
    Can you imagine the fun you could have with this?
  • vraa, on 10/12/2007, -12/+2I'm not sure if I understand the difference between this and MythTV, especially since there are Ubuntu based MythTV installations...

    Is this just a prebuilt box? 10 foot UI?

    I dont think the summary is accurate when it says "It is stable, easy to use, and requires no knowledge of Linux and only basic computer skills."
    Hardware is hell sometimes ... :D

    I remember reading something about setting vertical and horizontal refresh rates for a monitor in xorg (I might be off somewhere, I don't use Linux on a daily basis) and I just laughed. I'm somewhat of a computer nerd and I dont even know how to do that except through editing some configuration file by hand :(

    But in the end, I'd spring for an extra media box. Just another computer to throw Folding@Home on :)
    Digg Team # 49808
    • raid517, on 10/12/2007, -7/+19I have some very good news for you. You are definately NOT a computer nerd, or any kind of computer guru if you don't know how to edit a simple xorg.conf file. You probably just imagine that you are.

      That said, as cool as this looks, that guy's voice in the video is insanely irritating.

      I cringe horribly every time he says the word 'butten' (yes he says 'butten' not 'button'). With all due respect to the disabled, he sounds totally retarded.
    • imakecomments, on 10/12/2007, -10/+3@raid517:

      Who you calling retarded?

      http://www.d-e-f-i-n-i-t-e-l-y.com/

      The correct spelling is definitely.
    • SEMW, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6> I have some very good news for you. You are definately NOT a computer nerd, or any kind of computer guru if you don't know how to edit a
      > simple xorg.conf file. You probably just imagine that you are.

      I have to tell you, knowing how to edit xorg.conf and knowing how to edit it *to produce the desired result* are two very, very different things. And I say that as someone who once struggled with it for 3 hours (trying to get xinemara working with one CRT and one LCD on an ATI card).
    • raid517, on 10/12/2007, -5/+2@ imakecomments

      K.M.A.

      You want guess what that spells out?

      @semw

      You see that's the difference. Some of us actually do know how to do this. After 6 years or more of doing it, it stops being such a big mystery.
    • SEMW, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4> After 6 years or more of doing it, it stops being such a big mystery.

      I think that rather was vraa's point -- the average person who just wants a media centre in their living room is not going to *have* six years of *nix experience...
    • mooninite, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3"I have to tell you, knowing how to edit xorg.conf and knowing how to edit it *to produce the desired result* are two very, very different things. And I say that as someone who once struggled with it for 3 hours (trying to get xinemara working with one CRT and one LCD on an ATI card)."

      Ahahaha.

      With a nVidia card:
      Option "TwinView" "1"
      Option "metamodes" "CRT-0: nvidia-auto-select +0+0, CRT-1: nvidia-auto-select +1280+0"

      That's it! Restart X and bam.... two screens enabled. Heck even nVidia's driver utility allows you to activate two screens dynamically (no X restart).

      Dump your ATI card.
      • Blandyman, on 02/04/2008, -0/+1Oh yeah, because that's ***** common knowledge.

        Elitist *****.
    • kodek, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Compared to checking a box in windows to enable an extended display? Sure. Not being anti-linux, but don't make it sound like he's stupid because he doesn't know two very hard to remember lines of config code.
    • mooninite, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2"Compared to checking a box in windows to enable an extended display? Sure. Not being anti-linux, but don't make it sound like he's stupid because he doesn't know two very hard to remember lines of config code."

      Did you read the part about using the nVidia utility to instantly activate two screens (no X restart)? Obviously not. Troll somewhere else.
    • SEMW, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1> Did you read the part about using the nVidia utility to instantly activate two screens (no X restart)?

      As I said above, I have an ATI card. All the nVidia utilities in the world are not going to do much good.
  • AhronZombi, on 10/12/2007, -14/+8i really want to try this. ***** you digg for killing the site
  • cato59, on 10/12/2007, -9/+1 if you can use any printer with this, it will be unbeatable,then good-bye MS
    • davidrools, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4most printers work "automatically" in linux..just plug it in and it's ready to go. most printers in windows need you to find a driver and install it through the wizard.
    • SEMW, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Could you point to a single printer that Windows' generic printer driver doesn't work with? I've never come across one. Most people still install the manufacturers drivers, though, in order to use the special features of their printer (e.g. cartridge cleaning cycle utilities)
    • CrazyZ, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3@davidrools. I run two different distros at home. openSuse and Ubuntu and neither of them picks up or works properly with my old ass hp laserjet 4m printer. I have had problems printing in Linux for 10 years and it still hasn't improved.
    • mooninite, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1CrazyZ, you must be retarded. I print to 20 different laser printers at work - no 3rd party driver installed. Yes, I'm using Linux! :O

      Lexmark, HP, Kyocera Mita. They all work perfectly. Try using the generic PCL 5e or 6 driver.
    • cawpin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Samsung CLP-300...even Samsung's own drivers don't work correctly. My previous CLP-510, did work. The printer is shared off of a Windows box; it is found correctly but just doesn't print. I'm going to have to try plugging it in directly.

      That said, every other printer worked out of the box with every distro I've tried. It has to be something about Samsung because I HAD to install their drivers for the CLP-510 to work correctly.
    • dignick, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2@CrazyZ

      I have a HP Laserjet 4p, which i guess is very similar. It wasn't detected, but I just had to select it from a list and it worked fine. No biggie.
  • MonsterMagnet, on 10/12/2007, -18/+2LINUX MEDIA

    GeeXboX - Standalone Linux Media Center on a LiveCD

    http://www.pvrwire.com/2006/11/01/geexbox-standalone-linux-media-center-on-a-livecd/

    Less hassle and easiet linux distro you will ever use evolving a Media Center type OS

    Also a little thing called Myth TV has been out for what 6 yrs now................Read up on this before you post it as something nobody has heard of.

    MythTV Linux PVR eats Windows MCE for breakfast
    http://www.slashgear.com/pre-build-mythtv-linux-pvr-eats-windows-mce-for-breakfast-152985.php
    • AhronZombi, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10maybe you should read the website before you comment Mythtv is a part of linux mce, and it looks like the best implementation of it ever
    • MonsterMagnet, on 10/12/2007, -33/+1***** you zombie i could care less no matter how you roll it or baste it in 100000 different DISTRO's it's still MYTH TV. Call it Penguin MCE for all i care or FEDORA DVR or SUSE PVR the point was it's MYTH TV !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ***** !!!!!!!
    • dpsleep, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9lol, got a little angry there didn't you? i think what your not getting is that it USES mythtv for its tv functionality, but everything else was built for this.
    • cawpin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6MythTV: I eat pieces of ***** like you for breakfast!
      MCE: You eat pieces of ***** for breakfast?
      MythTV: No...


      I know it's not exactly what he said, but come on. I love both of them. MythTV just still has some maturation to do.
    • mikelieman, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Maturation? Like what?

    • MudkipsULiekEm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"Maturation? Like what?"

      Try using it. You'll see.
  • snecklifter, on 10/12/2007, -6/+2Wow! Slick video! I bet Microsoft are shi**ing themselves...
    • adalgiso, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3I'll bet not. Microsoft has people who know how to NOT sound like the biggest geek in the world. I couldn't even finish this video because of that lameass voice.
  • Snuffy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2someone find a link to download it, i cant find one while the site is down
  • haroldyates, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3The guy in the video makes sure you know he's saying "button," & not "fglkjodnsvornanoewgnorwnmg."
  • Zedtech, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13Just think...

    LinuxMCE + WiiMote/WiiMote Linux Drivers = Best Media Center Ever
  • mattyice11, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3KnoppMyth and MythDora did not like my hardware, so I ended up going with XP + MediaPortal. I'll definitely be giving this a shot though.
  • radio1mike, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1If you can use the MythTV front-end for the XBox and watch live TV through the XB, count me in.
  • bmzero, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3This guy can't really think we're all stupid enough to think LinuxMCE just "detects" Bluetooth phones in the room and sends out controller apps to them without any setup. I especially love the comment about having to find the correct input on the TV for WindowsMCE, but not LinuxMCE. I guess LinuxMCE ships with a little "Input Gnome" that slips into the trap door of your TV and does all of that for you.
  • aiten, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4@bmzero - modern televisions will switch to the input which provides an init signal (i.e. when a new device is turned on). LinuxMCE does this, obviously, and Windows MCE does not. It's a very easy function to add, so whose fault is it that Windows MCE doesn't make use of it?
  • timlawrenz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I think this is a fork of http://plutohome.com/
    • suckfone, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0Whoa, yeah, it definitely looks like it is. It doesn't really look like Linux MCE does much more than this app does anyway. Guess I'll give Pluto a try.
    • jawbreaker4fs, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4What clued you in? Was it the pluto logo at the top of the site, right next to the Ubuntu logo? RTFA.
    • MudkipsULiekEm, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5"RTFA."

      Can't.
  • suckfone, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1So, the sites been down since 100 diggs... I'm just going to have to go ahead and say tarball or its not real. I've been looking for this kind of app for a long time for linux. I've tried Geexbox (mentioned above) and mythTV, but I don't really want an MC running off of a livecd, and I don't want a PVR. If this app works anything like the video suggests, and I can get LIRC working with it, I can't wait to try it out.
    • jawbreaker4fs, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7"tarball or it didn't happen"

      man, I hope that doesn't catch on
    • MudkipsULiekEm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yeah, someone please post a download link.
  • immrlizard, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I am always skeptical when sites make claims like this. I tried myth and was shocked at how well it worked. The only thing that I couldn't get to work was changing the channels automatically because of my setup. That was easily taken care of by an irblaster. I really have to say that it was easy to set up once I got my irblaster. The site I got it from was http://www.mysettopbox.tv/knoppmyth.html They have a newer version that I haven't tried yet. Maybe this weekend if I have time. It uses knoppix as its base but everything is already set up. Plug in the cd and it guides you through the setup. Read the install instructions before attempting for the quickest setup. Media portal for windows was easier for me to set up because I am more familiar with windows, but I really liked myth better
    • jawbreaker4fs, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Next box I'm building will end up being http://www.linuxis.us/linux/media/howto/linux-htpc/ one of these running KnoppMyth. Seems like the ultimate setup for this kind of thing.
    • immrlizard, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@ jawbreaker4fs Try the link I posted. It will do all of the setup for you. It really helps if you are a linux noob like I was at the time.
    • StackOberon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0FWIW: Knoppmyth isn't based on Knoppix anymore (though it does use some Knoppix scripts). It's based on directly on Debian.

    • Xyber411, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I'm prolly gonna get dugg down for this, but I gotta say it dude:
      I tried knoppmyth about 2 years ago, and while it worked pretty well after 3 days continuously trying to get my hardware working, it still didn't have everything it needed. This linuxMCE seems to encapsulate everything needed to run correctly out of the box, as long as you have a decent audio card, and a decent video card, that is.
  • possum, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2does anyone have a torrent link for this?

    I want to try this out.
  • StackOberon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2This cannot possibly work as advertised. There is no way for anything to automatically detect what kind of TV and/or receiver you have and set up the control codes. Most TVs can only be controlled by IR - one way communication. So, your PC can't know if it has set the correct IR codes. If your TV has RS-232 control, there's different baud rates, control protocols, etc. And how does it know if you're piping video through your receiver or directly into your TV? And what video source is connected to what input?
    Assuming they've found some way to overcome those hurdles, not only will they become rich when companies like AMX and Crestron pay them big $$$ for their discovery, how can your Linux box tell if the TV is on or off so that it can turn it on if necessary? The only way I know of is to add a current sensor between the power cord and the wall outlet or to add a video sensor. I wouldn't call that "out of the box" functionality.
    • ninti, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0"This cannot possibly work as advertised. There is no way for anything to automatically detect what kind of TV and/or receiver you have and set up the control codes. [...] how does it know if you're piping video through your receiver or directly into your TV? And what video source is connected to what input?"

      Agreed to everything you said, there is a lot of BS going on here. Same thing goes for the supposed X11 system he has got going, how does it know the codes for the lights in the room?

      I use MythTV, and I like it, but I have pages and pages of notes on getting things set up correctly, and if I had to reinstall it tomorrow, it would take me several days to get it right. There is no way most of this stuff "just works" like he says it does.
  • bairy, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3He spent the first 2 minutes telling us how he couldn't be bothered to switch his TV on manually.

    I'll grant that LMCE looks impressive and certainly has lots of nice features, but if that's the opening line used to hook people in, I'll be surprised if all many people make it to the next point. I'm not a WMCE fanboy or anti-linux, I just think if your best method of selling something is by saying one of it's competitors is crap in comparison, rather than just explaining what it can do, then you're missing the point.
    • Cbeck527, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5"I just think if your best method of selling something is by saying one of it's competitors is crap in comparison, rather than just explaining what it can do, then you're missing the point."

      Mac Ads?
    • Coniferous, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1Agreed.

      Saying things like that is just setting you your users for disappointment. Sooner or later someone is going to say "oh noes, my video card dose'nt work supported out of the box!" and then try something else.

      Lets face it, something like this will *never* be plug and play.

      Your going to have to install it, you going to have to get an account for the listings, your probably going to have to buy some new hardware, because the video card in your closet isn't going to encode to mpeg2.

      I think this video is hogwash, quite frankly.
    • Coniferous, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0@cebeck

      Funny, i've never seen Coke do that, and nobody is even close to beating them.

      I think what your trying to say is that if you have a bigger competitor you have to dis them to get to the top. Even then i disagree.
  • FuzzyCat, on 10/12/2007, -8/+1

    ..... is it just me or is Digg broken? I can't thumb up or down comments at all...

    • FuzzyCat, on 10/12/2007, -7/+1
      ok, Digg IS broken. After I write this I'll be able to thumb up/down but afrer a page refresh I can't.....

    • Xyber411, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3i just thumbed you down twice and then replied without a refresh... time for a reload dude.
    • cyburdine, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1yeah, I dugg you down too... worked for me!!! ;)
  • skipere, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Come back tomorrow kids, nothing to see here.......

    "Our server has been overwhelmed due to a recent Digg story. The demo video referred to is here: Google Video The setup video referred to will be online soon, and will show that the setup really was plug and play. The full website with forums, wiki and mantis will be back soon. Please check back tomorrow. The download link will be restored then."
    • MudkipsULiekEm, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0I know, wtf.. lame. Why would you dismantle your whole site because of digg?

      I'd like to read this site and I don't wanna wait till tomorrow to do it.
    • BigBunion, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1What a shame for them. At least 50% to 75% of the people who linked there from Digg will have forgotten about this tomorrow. Huge publicity down the drain.
  • norle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Heh...read this title quickly and thought it said "Whore House Media".

    Never mind, nothing of interest here...
  • MudkipsULiekEm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1WTF is this guy watching?
  • tehjarvis, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Application: Awesome
    Narration: Douchebag.
  • linkin1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet aarghghghgh *drools* and *shakes hands*
  • zeroflake, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2well press my middle butt-taan! i think i like it! the creepy serial killer narration makes it POP!
  • TonyCubed, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Would of been better if he compared it to Vista's MCE.
  • SirBotchness, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I have a hard time believing that all of this was automated with no setup what so ever. But whatever.
  • MudkipsULiekEm, on 10/12/2007, -5/+0what
    the
    *****

    The site is still down. Kinda giving me a bad taste about this particular project. I mean, if they can't even have a stable site then how in the world could their software be stable o.O
    • Coniferous, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1You make it sound like they could of predicted a digg.

      Its not like its only a small bit of bandwith. Its ***** huge! the website has probably transfered more data in the last hour then it has over its entire lifetime!
    • kolanos, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It's open source software, meaning they don't make any money (except maybe donations).

      So how exactly do you propose they buy themselves a dedicated server farm with loads of bandwidth with no money?
    • zc_au, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1you call it a server hit
      a single server can not handle the digg effect when its hit
  • Coniferous, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1I'm getting a little bit sick of this "Linux is better!" "No windows is!" *****.

    Stop with the fanboy-isim. it's ok to have a preference, but both operating systems are completely valid in they're own ways.

    I think the whole "comparison" bit is underhanded and misleading.
  • Hnke, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Looks nice.
  • Dillenger69, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I've tried many Linux media center packages and have yet to have one work "out of the box".
    In fact, I have yet to have one work at all.
    Every time I've tried it's either a codec, or the sound, or the capture card, or (shudder) my ancient monitor that no linux distribution seems to get right.
    Mind you, Things have gotten better over the last 5 years, but I still have yet to have any linux solution match the stability of SageTV on plain old XP.
  • tgkspike, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I currently have ubuntu and xpmce dual booted. As a poor college student I own a WinTV-PVR-USB2 with a cheap dell laptop. I have never had support for tv in linux but I hear it is close. If I had more money I would have bought another TV tuner by now. I could see how the right hardware would work great out of the box for linuxMCE and yes if everything works that would be really cool. As for XpMCE, it works, I can watch / record tv just fine, it's not the best product in the world but it does what I need it to do . My problem with linux, is when something does not work out of the box , it can be a pain to setup and take up a lot of time.
  • slipgate, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Looks like a nice product but his info on Windows MCE is out of date by a few years.

    For all that work he put into it he should have spent more the 5 minutes designing the website.

  • RobotCitizen, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Press the Media BuT-Ton.
  • blackoper, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I've used pluto in the past and I have to say the features are there, but you have to spend a *lot* of time in the menus setting things up. There is plug and play support for some tvs and receivers/security systems/HVAC systems though. Just most of it has to be done by looking things up and creating rules. Completely automatic setup is a lie/misrepresentation however.
    The bluetooth phone part is true. It's set to automatically be on and if you have a certain type of bluetooth phone it will automatically popup a window that asks to install the software.
    If you spend the money and the time I would have to say Pluto (or linuxmce I guess they are calling it now) is a very good program. Hopefully the interest will bet there to keep expanding it's features.

    Oh and they make money from their hardware sales for the system. They have their own media extenders/servers they will sell you.
  • thetripper, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Is it me, or does that guy sound like Super Dave Osborne? Linux MCE was installed with "genuine Saskatchewan seal skin bindings."
  • hondaman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Anyone have a mirror or a torrent for the linuxmce package? I dont need the whole disk, just the .deb
  • Ryguy085, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Yeah about all that seamlessness and straight out of the box use. I'm working for a home automation company in my area for my senior design project at school and to get all that stuff functioning it will usually take special electrical wiring in your house that provides feedback to your control system as well as a control center to handle all the commands that will be sent to it. So unless he found a magic computer that takes care of all that for you straight out of the box your setup isn't going to be able to dim your lights or turn your TV and receiver on to the correct inputs while automatically detecting your cellphone and giving it control over your home. If it was as easy as that I don't think the company that has me designing their new control UI for them would be in business selling these systems in the tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars if a free OS could handle all this without all the extra hardware and installation where a lot of the cost for these professional systems consist of. This setup involves a lot more purchases and setup time that the video and the "commentator" leads one to believe by watching this short video. The control boxes do run a Linux OS on them, don't get me wrong but it is far from as simple and cheap as this video leads one to believe.
    • cyburdine, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I find it odd that there is this much certain doubt about a product that no one has played with! How do you know it doesn't work out of the box? did you bother to try it? or at least go to plutohome.com and read about the technology this guy is using? I certainly don't think this is going to be "so easy even a child could do it" but if it does even HALF of what this guy is showing you out of the box, it's one big step forward for Linux. (which is always good)

      Having said all that I think this is a horrible video that actually does more to discredit his work. My comment to Paul, the developer, would be to tone down the Microsoft sucks stuff and focus on what your product can do.
  • outsider787, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I don't understand how some people can't look past things like how the presenter pronounces certain words, or how his voice sounds 'irritating' to some.
    Grow up!
    You must be the same people that buy cars/computers, because they were advertised by attractive women on TV/magazines.
  • smanning703, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0This guy needs to get his ***** together....the installer is still not online
  • bubba9999, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Anyone know if it's a full installation of Myth? Does it include Mythweb, Mythgame, MythWeather, etc? I can't find out on the wiki or the site. It does look pretty neat though.
  • yablo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Don't install it on a system that you want destroyed. The installer needs all kinds of work
  • converse01, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0Thanks for the link josecc. I've downloaded it.
    http://www.converseshoes.us/
  • trilith, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0Quite doubtful. I'm not impressed. Not even a bit.
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