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Mandriva Linux 2008 now available
blog.mandriva.com — The result of six months of heavy development and testing, 2008 includes all the latest software and many enhancements over previous Mandriva Linux releases. You will find KDE 3.5.7 and the new GNOME 2.20 already integrated, a solid kernel 2.6.22.9 with fair scheduling support, OpenOffice.org 2.2.1, cutting-edge 3D-accelerated desktop.
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- Linegod, on 10/10/2007, -0/+13So far, a solid release. On x86-64, with nspluginwrapper, Flash works in Konqueror - definitely a nice addition....
- Shade00a00, on 10/10/2007, -4/+1Seriously, though. With a name like that, a newbie might think it's a car.
- jrepin, on 10/10/2007, -0/+11I installed the 64-bit PowerPack edition of Mandriva 2008 on my sisters computer and my HP Compaq nx6325 laptop and so far everything works great. Compiz Fusion works on both systems after enabling it with one click in Control Center. I think it is one of the best distributions and certainly worth a try. It is alse great to see that they have opened up their Mandriva Club and is now free to join.
- kckman, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Doesn't appear to me that they have opened it up. When I signed up, for for downloading I received the following:
Join the Mandriva Linux Users Club now by choosing a level of Membership (yearly payment):
Standard Member ($66 year or 60 € year)
Silver Member ($132 year or 120 € year) Recommended level!
Gold Member ($660 year or 600 € year) Platinum Member ($1320 year or 1200 € year)- AdamWill, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0The change is just not finished yet, which is why there's still things like that happening. When the change is finished being prepared, we will be announcing it officially.
So I can make sure it's being handled, when exactly did you get that message? You say "When I signed up, for for downloading", what do you mean exactly? Thanks!
- AdamWill, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0The change is just not finished yet, which is why there's still things like that happening. When the change is finished being prepared, we will be announcing it officially.
- kckman, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Doesn't appear to me that they have opened it up. When I signed up, for for downloading I received the following:
- mrpc, on 10/10/2007, -1/+17Mandrake used to be my favorite distro in the past...
- potterboy, on 10/10/2007, -6/+7then came uBuntu.
- mishaco, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2it was the only linux distro that wireless on the desktop worked out of the box . i like ubuntu also , but it takes much more work . in 9 days we will have the results of this competition .
- jdhore1, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Mandrake was awesome...About 4 years ago...but compared to today, everything sucked 4 years ago...KDE looked like crap, Gnome was still using Sawfish which is/was horrible. I think everything about linux has massively advanced since then.
- damentz, on 10/10/2007, -7/+5I like how they release it right before kernel 2.6.23 comes out.
- jdhore1, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5They didn't really know...Plus they were probably in Kernel Freeze for at least the past month or 2. Are you gonna say the same thing when Ubuntu comes out in about a week...Cuz Ubuntu's gonna still be running the 2.6.22 kernel.
- andycr512, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1Uneven-numbered kernels are AFAIK unstable, so it wouldn't make sense to release it with it anyway.
- NJHewitt, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Not true for years, and never applied to the minor (eg .22, .23) version numbers anyway.
- jdhore1, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Yeah, that was only applicable during the 2.4.x series...now on 2.6.x, all releases are stable and everything that's git or RC isn't.
- andycr512, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Ok, thanks guys. Didn't know that.
- miyamotofreak, on 10/10/2007, -1/+219 more days until Ubuntu 7.10! Love how all these major distros are having major releases at the same time.
- jdhore1, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Also, about a month till Fedora 8 :)
- rpgmaker, on 10/10/2007, -0/+12Dugg because mandrake was my first Linux distro, and it worked great :D
- polywaffle, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Same here, well first working one anyway. Any thoughts on how this compares to ubuntu?
- AdamWill, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0There's a thread on 2008 at the Ubuntu forums:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571436
maybe you can get some opinions there.
- AdamWill, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0There's a thread on 2008 at the Ubuntu forums:
- polywaffle, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Same here, well first working one anyway. Any thoughts on how this compares to ubuntu?
- wisam, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3What's with the ugly artwork. Mandriva (Mandrake) always had a fairly decent look. But lately the backgrounds, splash screens, and desktop themes just became hideous. The icons are and were always beautiful though.
- Brandonson112, on 10/11/2007, -11/+10IM IN UR COMPUTER CHANGING UR OS
- livingwater, on 10/10/2007, -3/+2This meme is evidently worth a digg with or without purpose.
- flush2x, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0As of right now 2007.1 has been a pretty good friend over this past summer, so I'm starting KTorrent and heading off to bed. I also wanted to mention that I really wasn't too thrilled with RC1 or RC2. It was the little things like KWD crashing and missing parts such as wine that irked me more than anything. And I admit I wasn't exactly being Mr. Helpful by sending in the feedback after trying it out... But I'll try it out ONE more time, and if that doesn't smell right, I suppose I'll be waiting for 2008.1. Mandriva's x.1 versions always seem to be more stable anyway.
- opnickc, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Are any of the mirrors not 404'd? None seem to work for me :(
- subratabera, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0+1
- jdhore1, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Torrents are your friend. It's also a great way to help out and give back a little bit without actually doing much work. I personally always try to get the torrents to save the project some bandwidth bills and hel my fellow users get it a bit faster and the like.
- StuBeck, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1The official torrent isn't working for me right now.
- AdamWill, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0Sorry about that. The download script was not working correctly yesterday - it was generating wrong URLs so they were all 404ing. It should be okay today.
- lonniebiz, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Anyone have GNOME torrent? The torrent on the site is KDE.
- Trel, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1Mandriva is a KDE distro. I think you can still choose to install GNOME.
- spartacus51, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2haven't looked into it at all, but from the description both are included....
- AdamWill, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1There isn't a GNOME version of One at the present time. There may be one in future. If you download the Free edition, you can install GNOME as part of the installation process (but, of course, remember Free contains no non-free software, so no NVIDIA / ATI proprietary drivers etc - you'll have to set up the non-free repository post-installation to get these). Or you can install the KDE version of One, set up your repositories, and install the task-gnome package to get GNOME.
Mandriva is not officially a KDE distro, it is desktop agnostic. We have a full-time paid GNOME maintainer, Frederic Crozat. Personally, I only use GNOME on my systems (personal preference over KDE).
- diggmaddy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Awesome. I used Mandrake throughout my undergrad a couple of years ago. It was my favorite, much before ubuntu probably even existed (at least for most of the world). Can't wait to try it out again.
- lonniebiz, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2My favorite part of mandriva one 2007 was the metisse windowing effects. You could *scale* windows (not just resize them); everything in a window could be made proportionately larger (kind of like IEs zoom effect) and you could continue to interact with the window at its new scaled size totally transparent to the application (which wasn't designed to be 3D).
Less practically, but really cool, you could also manipulate any window as though it was a 3D piece of paper: you could pivot, tilt, turn a window upside down, turn a window completely backwards, make the right side of a window farther away than the left size. You could do anything you could imagine with a window, and then still interact with that window as though you never manipulated it. Metisse would translate all your mouse behavior to the 3D window as though you were interacting with a plain boring flat window. Of course this worked on any application's window. You could be watching a movie in a window an the movie back into the depth of you desktop as though your entire desktop was a 3D space. It is still most impressive windowing system I've seen till this day.- lonniebiz, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2btw, I've been testing this 2008 release, and it too has Metisse as an option right after you get through choosing your clock settings with the live CD. It is even better now; way more smooth.
I like it way better than Compiz, because it has a very practical feature along with the fancy stuff (scaling windows). Think about it this way. A 3D cube is simply a 3D object with 6 2D sides. With Compiz, your desktops are still 2D, but it looks 3D when you move from one to the other. I don't care about the damn cube being 3D, I want my desktop work area to be 3D, and thats what Metisse does. I'm sure others will see it my way over time, but not as many people know about Metisse yet.
I wish my favorite distribution, Ubuntu, supported Metisse like Mandriva does.
- lonniebiz, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2btw, I've been testing this 2008 release, and it too has Metisse as an option right after you get through choosing your clock settings with the live CD. It is even better now; way more smooth.
- pavs, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1peekaboo
http://www.linuxhaxor.net/category/linux-distros-r ... - Morca007, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Goddamnit, I can't seem to find a working mirror.
- fcrozat, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Try either http://torrent.mandriva.com/public/ for Bittorrent or ftp://ftp.proxad.net/pub/Distributions_Linux/MandrivaLinux/official/iso/2008.0/
- AdamWill, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0Sorry about that. The download script was not working correctly yesterday - it was generating wrong URLs so they were all 404ing. It should be okay today.
- idiftl, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2GNOME and KDE, but no love for xfce? tut tut tut
- AdamWill, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0See the Release Tour:
http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Releases/Mandriva/2008 ...
XFCE is in fact included and very carefully packaged, thanks to the Mandriva XFCE development volunteers. It's in the /contrib repository. See http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Docs/Basic_tasks/Insta ... for setting up repositories, then install the task-xfce or task-xfce-minimal package, that's all you need to do. We may be able to make an unofficial 2008 XFCE One edition in future.
- AdamWill, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0See the Release Tour:
- innergeek, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2WooHoo! the first distro to support the sucky Realtek wifi card in my Gateway laptop without any fiddling about (and it even does WPA). And Compiz isn't messing with my graphics chip. I really want to dump Vista, maybe I finally can!
- Krhis, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Just a little pet-pev of mine, feel free to digg me down for it, but it's not 2008 yet... Why base your versioning on dates if you're not going to accurately abide by them? Heck, even coin mints do this. If they do this to 'get everyone ready' for the next year, then the official release should be on 1/1/2008 and only 2008 release candidates should be available before that.
They renamed Mandrake to Mandriva and started using yearly versioning shortly after Mandrake reached 10.x, even RedHat did this and Fedora came about (though RedHat is still an active distribution). Slackware seems to be the only distribution that has continued beyond 11 (there are others, but without doing research Slackware's the only thing that comes to mind). Any reason why developers do this?- AdamWill, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1The problem is that this will be the current version until April 2008, and people don't really like using a product called 2007 when it's already 2008. Don't you feel a bit silly installing Windows Server 2003 these days? :)
- AdamWill, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Public Service Announcement: NOKEY errors with 2008
This is for anyone getting NOKEY errors trying to install packages from the online repositories for Mandriva Linux 2008.
The problem was that the pubkey files, which contain the keys used to sign packages in each repository, were missing from the media_info directories in the 2008 tree, so when it was adding the repositories, Mandriva could not get the key for each repository. Since the repository seemed to have no key associated with it, but the packages were signed, when you tried to install any package, Mandriva would give you the NOKEY warning.
This has been fixed on our master mirror around two hours before this post. I have checked several mirrors and found that at the time of writing this post, a couple of mirrors have synced up with the fix already, but most have not.
Once all the mirrors sync up with the fix, the problem will not occur again for anyone adding repositories. However, if you have already set up your repositories, the problem will not be fixed automatically. You must remove your repositories using the repository configuration tool, which can be found in the Mandriva Control Center, or the urpmi.removemedia command line tool. You can then set the repositories up again (using the repository configuration tool, or urpmi.addmedia) and you should no longer see the errors.
I will post a follow-up message when my checks indicate that most mirrors are synced up with the fix.
We’re sorry for the inconvenience.- AdamWill, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Following up the previous post on this topic, the issue with missing pubkey files leading to NOKEY errors is now resolved on the majority of mirror servers. The following servers from the list used by the Mandriva tools have been tested and found to be GOOD:
ftp://ftp.mandrake.ikoula.com/Mandrakelinux/official/2008.0
ftp://ftp.iasi.roedu.net/mirrors/ftp.mandrake.com/official/2008.0
ftp://ftp.free.fr/mirrors/ftp.mandriva.com/MandrivaLinux/official/2008.0
ftp://ramses.wh2.tu-dresden.de/pub/mirrors/mandrake/official/2008.0
ftp://ftp.uwsg.indiana.edu/linux/mandrake/official/2008.0
ftp://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/MandrivaLinux/official/2008.0
http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/pub/linux/Mandrakelinux/off ...
ftp://ftp.lip6.fr/pub/linux/distributions/Mandrakelinux/official/2008.0
ftp://carroll.cac.psu.edu/pub/linux/distributions/mandrivalinux/official/2008.0
ftp://ftp.surfnet.nl/pub/os/Linux/distr/Mandrakelinux/official/2008.0
http://mandriva.dcc.fc.up.pt/official/2008.0
ftp://ftp.pbone.net/pub/mandrakelinux/official/2008.0
ftp://ftp.esat.net/pub/linux/mandrakelinux/official/2008.0
ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/mandrakelinux/official/2008.0
ftp://ftp.ps.pl/mirrors/mandrake/official/2008.0
ftp://ftp.tuniv.szczecin.pl/pub/linux/mandrakelinux/official/2008.0
The following servers have been tested and found to be BAD:
http://www.gtlib.cc.gatech.edu/pub/mandrake/offici ...
ftp://ftp.rhnet.is/pub/Mandrakelinux/official/2008.0
ftp://ftp.cica.es/pub/Linux/Mandrakelinux/official/2008.0
ftp://ftp.ciril.fr/pub/linux/mandrakelinux/official/2008.0
ftp://sunsite.cnlab-switch.ch/mirror/mandrake/official/2008.0
ftp://mirror.switch.ch/mirror/mandrake/official/2008.0
ftp://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/mandrake/Mandrakelinux/official/2008.0
ftp://ftp.nara.wide.ad.jp/pub/Linux/Mandrakelinux/official/2008.0
The following servers could not be tested as they were full:
ftp://ftp.u-strasbg.fr/pub/linux/distributions/Mandriva/official/2008.0
ftp://fr2.rpmfind.net/linux/Mandrakelinux/official/2008.0
If you are using one of the servers listed as GOOD, you may be able to resolve the problem by running this command:
urpmi.update –force-key
If you are using one of the servers listed as BAD, or if the –force-key command does not work to resolve the problem, you can resolve the problem by removing your repositories and re-adding them using one of the servers listed as GOOD.
Tomorrow we will test all servers again, and remove those that have still not properly synchronized the fix from the official server list.
Again, we apologize for any inconvenience caused by this issue.
- AdamWill, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Following up the previous post on this topic, the issue with missing pubkey files leading to NOKEY errors is now resolved on the majority of mirror servers. The following servers from the list used by the Mandriva tools have been tested and found to be GOOD:
- wydene, on 07/07/2008, -0/+0Great OS, but sadly my Epson perfection 3170 scanner won't configure correctly under the setup scanner in the hardware configuration tool.
I've select the scanner manually but even when it informs me that the scanner is now ready to use via xsane or Kooka from multimedia graphics, click OK, but i'm returned to :- a window that informs me that "there are no scanners found which are available on your systems" I click again on setup scanner manually, when asked if I want to select a port by the auto search it still is unable to configure my scanner. evan if a manual select a USB port!
any help from one or more of you Linux enthusiasts on this issue would be most welcome,
Thanking you in anticipation,
MG. - wydene, on 07/07/2008, -0/+0Great OS, but sadly my Epsom perfection 3170 scanner won't configure correctly under the setup scanner in the hardware configuration tool.
I've select the scanner manually but even when it informs me that the scanner is now ready to use via xsane or Kooka from multimedia graphics, click OK, but I'm returned to :- a window that informs me that "there are no scanners found which are available on your systems" I click again on setup scanner manually, when asked if I want to select a port by the auto search it still is unable to configure my scanner. Even if a manual select a USB port!
xsane when executed, states no devices found.
any help from one or more of you Linux enthusiasts on this issue would be most welcome,
Thanking you in anticipation,
MG. - wydene, on 07/07/2008, -0/+0Sorry about the identical double entry, at the time there was an error in the upload, so a second attempt was instigated, the result is plane for all to see.
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