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Oxygen and Plasma a power combination for KDE4.0

pinheiro-kde.blogspot.com — Work done so far on the extensions for the plasma clock

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  • niallabrown, on 10/10/2007, -1/+21Wow, that looks great! Really like the task bar. I love the background also.
  • Rossjj, on 10/10/2007, -1/+4wow that looks really cool
  • maotx, on 10/10/2007, -13/+4Hey, I have a top comment about nothing on a story on the front page about nothing.

    /not trying to be an ass
  • eyko, on 10/10/2007, -2/+37Dude! I would SO switch from gnome to kde if it starts looking like this ;)
    • GMorgan, on 10/10/2007, -2/+23The KDE team should stay well ahead of Gnome given the focus on vector rendering. One SVG compared to dozens of different resolution rasters. I also think vector images look nicer than rasters in any case (obviously subjective).

      I can't see Gnome going for a big clean up operation any time soon.
      • Mejogid, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Actually, Gnome is moving across to Cairo for most rendering and SVG for vector graphics (which is pretty much the 'big clean up' you mention later). The reason they make use of different sized PNGs aswell is to increase clarity and style at smaller sizes. As for looking nicer, that's nonsense - a scaled SVG will look nicer but at the native resolution (which all Gnome PNGs are) they will be identical.
  • Complexium, on 10/10/2007, -1/+19Now that's sexy. So much better than the 'standard' KDE look.
  • Weejay, on 10/10/2007, -6/+0Looks neat, but pretty dark, which is strange as everything on the web is about pastel and light colors.
  • ptFoe, on 10/10/2007, -8/+3They need to remove that white transparent border around the dock
    • Kazbaeden, on 10/10/2007, -0/+11I like it actually.
      • Cipher054, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5better an option to enable/disable the border.
    • nunopinheiro, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6well my general idea on the white border is that it should work much like a glue Between several elements.
      so you can put the clock in the bar, remove the task-bar to one side do what you want with every element, providing several degrees of freedom,
      • TehDoctor, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Nuno, you and the rest of the Oxygen team are doing some great work, keep it up. If you want my input on the transparent border, I think it would be best to be able to choose its diameter in pixels.
      • Ademan, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3I personally like the white borders myself, but if they're intended as "glue" (basically a drag target for other elements right?) why not (at least optionally) only show them when an element is being dragged?
        • nunopinheiro, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1no not just on drag, Reilly joining a plasmoid to another the white borders will join together making it just one plasmoid..
        • Ademan, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I'm sorry, maybe it's that I havent been following KDE4 closely enough, but how would you join two plasmoids together other than by dragging one onto the other?
    • tmalloy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5I think there should be an option to have it there or not, because it does take up an unnecessarily large amount of space.
    • crazybrit, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3I second the option to remove the border. it looks alright, but I don't really see what the use of it is.
      • tyrione, on 10/10/2007, -1/+0As if the current UI is a marvel of Function and Form?
  • ChileanGoD, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Wait till we get neutrinos and dark matter.
  • amphet, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5*drools*
  • nunopinheiro, on 10/10/2007, -0/+15Thanks a lot on your kind comments
    • oobuntu, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1nice looking, except the black horizontal line through the middle of the clock looks very thick and distracting for now..
  • trzynascie, on 10/10/2007, -3/+9Two pics and no content! Omg, so awesome.
    • markstory, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2How are images not content? Or would you have prefered 2000 words describing what the new desktops were going to look like? Would that be content or just plain stupid.
  • over90000, on 10/10/2007, -17/+3Why does it look so much like vista?
    • nunopinheiro, on 10/10/2007, -1/+12sorry i think it does not, apart from the blackish widgets, but I'm a black fan ask anybody
    • dmiranda2, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6This is great and does not look like vista.
    • niallabrown, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9What? because it has some black in it and a little transparency? Have you used vista? It looks nothing like it. It looks much better in my opinion.
    • Phocion55, on 10/10/2007, -0/+11It does......in a delusional Vista fanboy kind of way.
      • morphir, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3hehe! yup!
        And don't forget the fact that _everyone_ gets inspired by by everyone. That is just how humans work. Being inspired from a car, nature, other OS's is ALL ok and legal, and very different from copying. The oxygen style has some elements from the OSX as well, but in the end, it's a unique style.
    • daftman, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Why do you have to comment on every ***** Linux story with your *****. Are you trying to beat 7of7 record for being the biggest ***** with the lowest negative digg?
      Unless you are getting paid to post this kind of ***** day and day out, you are one sad moron. Welcome to my Blocked list.
  • angers, on 10/10/2007, -0/+10Great work, looking forward to use KDE4.
  • postaldave, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9anything to replace the default KDE clock is fine with me. that is by far the most ugly feature that stays in each release.

    BTW: i think that new clock is stunning.
  • niallabrown, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1After seeing this I'm sort of wishing Gnome would consider at least some changes to the default theme. I wouldn't mind drooling over a Gnome desktop without needing to trick it out myself.
    • elnerdo, on 10/10/2007, -4/+3I personally think that the default Gnome desktop is the most aesthetically pleasing of any system. (Between this, Vista, OSX and anything else).

      It's much cleaner, and more simplistic. Why does everybody care so much about the bells and whistles?
      • p0tent1al, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3Because we care about the bells and whistles! That's like asking why people like bling bling. We like good looking hardware/software. Why? Because it gives us that tingly feeling inside.
      • Ademan, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Why's elnerdo being dugg down? ZOMG HE HAS A DIFFERENT OPINION THAN ME! Obviously asthetics are TOTALLY about opinion and taste. I second that opinion as well, i think GNOME (generally) looks much better than KDE, but ive heard plenty of people disagree, and a friend of mine was recently drooling over a KDE screenshot i thought looked like ass, so again, opinion.
    • Ademan, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Well considering GNOME is incredibly modular, it wouldn't take much to replace the default (plain jane) gnome-panel application (which, as you probably guessed, is responsible for handling the panels for GNOME) with some fancier ones, although i don't really know what needs to be changed with the current gnome-panel other than maybe gradient support, and treating svg as scalable vector graphics instead of a stinking pixmap. I never cared for it much, but the linsta theme tries to use a svg file for the panels, but the problem is, if you have panels that aren't exactly 24 (25?) pixels high/wide the image starts repeating, or gets cut off, rather than scaled, as svgs were intended to. (although i sort of suspect this may be a gtk+ theming problem, i can't really be sure)
  • schestowitz, on 10/10/2007, -4/+14Very nice. KDE has some of the most Kreative guys.
    • schoate09, on 10/10/2007, -10/+4Buried for Kreative.
      • p0tent1al, on 10/10/2007, -4/+2good laughs, I still dugg you down though
    • wordsofwisedumb, on 10/10/2007, -8/+3Especially since they are not doing anything actually creative, merely mimicking what has been done by other GUI designers for other interfaces.
  • shawnanigans, on 10/10/2007, -3/+11I wonder if it would be possible for Ubuntu to adopt KDE4 instead of GNOME. I always found Kubuntu a little awkward at some things and I just wish that KDE4 was the DE.
    • OneAndOnlySnob, on 10/10/2007, -5/+2Uh... So you a proposing a name change for Kubuntu to Ubuntu... and Ubuntu would be called Gnubuntu? GTFO.
    • crazybrit, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4Yeah, you're looking for Kubuntu.
      • iofthestorm, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7Well, he's kind of saying that Kubuntu isn't as well-maintained as Ubuntu is, and he wishes it was.
      • shawnanigans, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Thank you iofthestorm for not being retarded. Ubuntu gets all the love, yet it has the initial visual appeal of rotting animal parts. And nothing converts consumers more than pretty and free.
  • OneAndOnlySnob, on 10/10/2007, -0/+12I've been a Gnome guy for quite a while now, but I'm definitely looking forward to trying KDE4. And I'm also looking forward to Gnome's response. These screenshots are hot.
  • u16085, on 10/10/2007, -3/+7I think "GUI's" are at a point where they will always look like vista/osx
    • darkNiGHTS, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7The taskbar looks nothing like Vista or OSX, what are you talking about?
    • Thyris, on 10/10/2007, -3/+1i agree about the osx/vista look, I was thinkin 'man this totally looks vista-y' when i saw the screens. Granted there are obvious differences, but the color scheme, the window border styles, etc, - vista fo'sho'
    • geoken, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I'm pretty sure he's talking about the thick, transparent window borders.
  • bowe, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9What is the purpose of the transparent border? All it seems to do is take up space. On laptops with smaller screens like the macbook, that could get annoying. Although you see some of this same stuff in vista so what do I know.
    • bowe, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Oh it also looks like it is borrowing heavily from many generic rainlendar designs. Like this one. http://customize.org/rainlendar/skins/45956
      Here' s my favorite btw
      http://customize.org/rainlendar/skins/42764
      • nunopinheiro, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Amazing link thanks a lot.
        No I'm not, but i will look it up .... :)
    • kurtergad87, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1They made the borders because they realized _not_ having them looked ugly. It's basically a quick hack so widgets can look pretty while they work on making the release ready.
    • geoken, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1The point of the thick window borders is to make it easy to get the resize handles to show up. For example, when you want to resize a window it's a lot easier to position your mouse over a 15px wide window border than it is to do the same over a 3px wide window border. The point of the transparency is to lessen the visual and actual impact of these large window borders. At least those are the reasons from a theoretical point of view, it's entirely possible that they are included because someone simply likes the way they look.
  • antitab, on 10/10/2007, -8/+2That is one ugly clock.
  • buggu, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2This looks really nice, but the glassy borders really need to be made smaller. They are taking way to much screen estate. Otherwise, I'm really impressed with KDE4's new theme and iconset.
    • darkNiGHTS, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2KDE is all about customability, you can change borders and stuff easily.
      • buggu, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0I don't know how customizable the entire look will be, so why not improve the look from the start?

        I think it looks very nice, but the glassy borders are horrible from a practical perspective.
  • skyshock1, on 10/10/2007, -7/+2ZOMG A CLOCK!!! Welcome to 1995. Where are the REAL apps? I want to see THOSE.
    • morphir, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2this is not a blog about the kde-applications it self. It's a visionary blog about the kde4 look.
  • cduquette, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7I like the new taskbar mockup. I know it's just a mockup, but I hope the final version looks something like that. It's so slick and pretty. :P
  • custerfluck, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2That panel at the bottom looks very CDE-ish (the layout of it anyways)
  • digitallysick, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1i installed the new kde beta 2 , but its just a bar, 2 boxes that say "object not found" and a "run" style command box., errrr which looks very different from what i see in the shots, i have no idea what i did wrong.
  • Spaz007, on 10/10/2007, -3/+2Any work being done so "normal" people can use Linux.... Good thing they have a plasma clock though....
  • DestroyFascism, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Can I play PC games on this?
    • nunopinheiro, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1No, but can you run PS3 games on Xbox. Or Linux games in the fridge. (well probably some) :)
  • ahvi, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1It's about time KDE starts to look pretty. I'll still stick with GNOME for now :)
  • aliguana, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1looks like Vista to me... am I missing something?
  • potp, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Kubuntu 8.04 here i come. unless 7.10 gets a kde 4 final version package.
  • morphie, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2These are freakin' mockups.
    The fonts won't render this way.
    The dock isn't finished at all.
    The animations of plasma aren't fluid.

    Oh, and by the way, this has nothing to do with oxygen.

    Now, digg me down if you want, but I genuinly think that there is a big difference between saying that you'll do something, and doing it. And that is where a lot of projects go down. I sure hope that this mockup represents the real thing one day, but with current font-rendering-techniques in Xorg it's just not possible. :)
    • nunopinheiro, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2heeee I'm a oxygen artist so......
      • morphie, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1So, those few icons result in a power combination?

        Seriously. I've been using KDE for years now, but I'm done with semi-innovation like this. This is copying others, not being different. I love the new stuff like phonon and solid, but the plasma desktop is lacking innovation and now it is hurrying to catch up. Which is a bad thing. It results in a desktop which doesn't look like the mockups. I think all artists should be aware of that.
    • oobuntu, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2The mockups seem to be a modern digg-related disease. In the olden days, only the insiders would see the mockups. There's a bit of an issue now that every Tom, Dick and Harry gets to see the mockups and hence the hype gets ramped up a tad!
  • RockinRoel, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I want KDE 4 and I want it now!
  • LithiumPower, on 10/10/2007, -2/+0Off topic, but what wordpress theme is that?
    • nunopinheiro, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2black minimalism that i remade from scratch, the one on bloguer is based on that
    • phstpok, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1Wake up and smell the daisies bro. It's a Blogger site
    • phstpok, on 10/10/2007, -2/+1Wake up and smell the daisies bro. It's a Blogger site
    • LithiumPower, on 10/10/2007, -1/+0So, I can't get that on wordpress :(
    • LithiumPower, on 10/10/2007, -1/+0Ok, nevermind, I found it :)
  • BlackWarp, on 10/10/2007, -1/+0I hope to God that the dock ripoff doesn't stay, or can be replaced. It will feel so weird having the button in the middle, and having half the bottom of my screen wasted.
    • arjie, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Let me put you on to one of our commenters, sir. Please click this link and hold the line: http://pinheiro-kde.blogspot.com/2007/09/shaping-up-time-for-kde.html#c7840773439524084460
      • nunopinheiro, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1i don't see it as wasted space , you can use it to put other system monitoring plasmoids, releasing some space on the clutter stray is right now.
        Also is it looks beater and makes you interact faster? then you should not care there is some wasted space.
        I'm sure that if you car about that space to much you are also against the full with bar has is wastes the space even more..
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