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news.softpedia.com — Even if there aren't big changes compared to the final version of Ubuntu 8.04 LTS, released on April 24th, 2008, the Alpha 1 of Intrepid brings a brand new theme, completely redesigned, which in time will become what everyone was expecting.
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- cowboy77061, on 07/03/2008, -17/+87that ***** theme is even uglier than the Human theme. the simplicity of Clearlooks FTW.
- Fragarach87, on 07/03/2008, -2/+15Ya I agree the theme is bad... hopefully it will get redone before the final. Which is still a very long ways off
- ausfahrt, on 07/03/2008, -2/+9That's the first thing i thought. A big part of this release is the ui upgrade so lets hope that this is just early and that hasnt been implemented yet. The screens here are so close to the human interface with just different colors that im thinking that is the case.
- ToadLeg, on 07/03/2008, -10/+4I completely disagree; I love the new theme! I think it's much easier on the eyes, and works with both light and dark text color.
- knopper67, on 07/04/2008, -1/+3You must be colorblind or something, the theme is hideous.
- linkinpark342, on 07/03/2008, -2/+8agreed, I'm all for dark themes, I don't think i've used a light one for longer than a day. But that one they chose is just ugly. They should look into Aurora...
- marvinaus, on 07/03/2008, -9/+3You and the rest of this theme hating bunch totally missed what linux is all about. Freedom. You've got freedom to change the default theme. It doesn't take long to change the theme.
Clearly you poeople haven't used any linux distros.- Vician, on 07/04/2008, -1/+10While it's true you can change it, and I certainly as hell would, the default theme is what NEW users see first and that leaves a lasting impression. And, thus far, the general consensus seems to be the current iteration of the new theme is quite bad.
- Stonedonkey, on 07/04/2008, -6/+4It's pretty easy to change the theme in Gnome :)
- MavRevMatt, on 07/04/2008, -1/+11But that's not the point. A default theme needs to look good if Linux ever wants to get more users. Many people wouldn't care to change the theme if the default looks decent.
- Sokkratez, on 07/04/2008, -3/+2I'm actually pretty keen on it. Maybe not the buttons, but the color is nice.
- slythfox, on 07/04/2008, -0/+10... Here we go again. The dark redesign was just to test for compatibility with darker themes and applications.
- rpgmaker, on 07/04/2008, -2/+1Yes, it is. I hope the UI team of ubuntu read digg, because they don't seem to listen to ANYONE.
- Stonedonkey, on 07/04/2008, -1/+2"But that's not the point. A default theme needs to look good if Linux ever wants to get more users. Many people wouldn't care to change the theme if the default looks decent."
You know, I was going to point out that it's a testing theme and isn't going to be the default in the final version. Then I noticed that this was pointed out in a post right below me. So I edited my post to say something innocuous. And what do I get for my trouble, for preventing spam? Someone tells me I don't "get" it, he gets dugg up nine times, and I get buried.
I don't know why I bother posting comments on this site anymore. This community has gone down the tubes. - LoreArtifex, on 07/04/2008, -0/+0I still think that Unity (gnome-themes-extras) is the best official theme available and I hope they will consider a color scheme like that.
- theWrkncacnter, on 07/03/2008, -2/+20GDM has a tendency to look clunky, even clearlooks. In my opinion, this is a step in the right direction, thought it is much too dark for my tastes (grey backgrounds??)
- Grjemo, on 07/03/2008, -1/+64They are only using this theme to make sure dark themes are bug free. This will not be in the final release.
- courtjester555, on 07/03/2008, -1/+9And yet people continue to make comments about it. Why? There's no need for everyone to say basically the same thing about a theme that blatantly won't be incorporated into any sort of final release.
- MavRevMatt, on 07/04/2008, -0/+11Most people don't know that. I wasn't sure if it was to be in the final or not until I read that.
- Fubarepublic, on 07/04/2008, -1/+1OK, pls change the default links color....
- courtjester555, on 07/03/2008, -1/+9And yet people continue to make comments about it. Why? There's no need for everyone to say basically the same thing about a theme that blatantly won't be incorporated into any sort of final release.
- keeganspeck, on 07/03/2008, -9/+10Oh God. I'm gonna have to wash these pants again.
- biddows, on 07/03/2008, -5/+8I've heard a lot people criticize the new color scheme, but I actually quite like it. Is this some kind of quarter life crisis? Will I now wake up one morning with an uncontrollable attraction to beige? I'm scared.
- TheWindBlows, on 07/03/2008, -14/+7Ubuntu is a non racist distro.
Ubuntu is hero. - TheGreatBelow, on 07/03/2008, -13/+7Looks like *****, they'll hopefully scrap it by the time 8.* hits beta/rc from all the bad feedback.
If not, well, God help them. I don't care what color scheme they come up with, both Vista and OSX own anything you can possibly conjure in Ubuntu.- sfacets, on 07/03/2008, -5/+1Although I disagree on the Vista point, I second your opinion.
- TheGreatBelow, on 07/03/2008, -2/+4Their default font blows too. They need a calibri equivalent.
- RaulMuadDib, on 07/03/2008, -3/+0http://www.afflictednation.com/images/*****.jpg
I see the resemblance - TheGreatBelow, on 07/03/2008, -5/+4And ***** rotating cubes and 3d ripple effects ain't gonna save them. Give us a ***** sharp looking theme inspired by OSX and/or Vista.
- MavRevMatt, on 07/04/2008, -0/+3Have you used some of the features of Compiz? There's a great deal of usability in it, just as much as the "prettiness" factor. Although I do agree this theme is dead ugly. Vista's is okay, but for me there is way too much blue which I can't change or remove. OS X is great of course, Apple gets design, but copying an existing interface isn't a good idea. That'll just get more bad feedback.
- CrushThemTorg, on 07/03/2008, -4/+3Hey! Cube was really awesome ... for about thirty seconds.
I wish someone would Vista's blur effect. Now that is totally hot.- thepxc, on 07/03/2008, -0/+4Compiz/Compiz Fusion has supported various blurring techniques on moving, stationary, transparent, and whatever other kind of windows you can think of for some time. Try enabling them.
- RobotCitizen, on 07/03/2008, -2/+11Incontinent Ibex Edition?
- WaddleDee, on 07/04/2008, -1/+2Lol... No.
Don't make fun of the Ubuntu. You offend me. - PlatanoPower, on 07/04/2008, -0/+3I love ubuntu, but I thought that was hilarious lol
- WaddleDee, on 07/04/2008, -1/+2Lol... No.
- daviddiaz, on 07/03/2008, -4/+19dear god I don't understand why the default video player is Totem. VLC is infinitely better. The theme's not great, but i set my own color scheme anyway, so it's not a problem.
- tito13kfm, on 07/03/2008, -1/+8A properly configured mplayer is 10x greater than VLC. The only problem is most users are unable to compile their own version and get stuck with the out of date, feature shafted, repository built version.
- thepxc, on 07/03/2008, -1/+4I don't really know why Gnome needs to use GStreamer at all, either. Xine has definitely been more solid IME.
- talkingwires, on 07/04/2008, -0/+6VLC supports MP3, DiVX, and other proprietary codecs that cannot be included in "free software". Ubuntu does not support these codecs out of the box for legal reasons, but offers an easy way to enable them the first time you try to play them in a media player.
They can do this because Totem, Amarok, Rhythmbox, etc support plugins to the audio server, aka Gstreamer and Xvid. VLC does not. Yes, it rocks, plays every media format under the sun natively, and is the first thing I install on a fresh installation, but the only way they could ship it by default would be a crippled version.
If it bothers you, contact your Senator and get the law changed.
- sfacets, on 07/03/2008, -8/+1That orange-ish brown is ghastly. Linux really has to step away from the neon-orange/green days.
- courtjester555, on 07/03/2008, -0/+4Linux =/= only Ubuntu. Even if it did, ever heard of Kubuntu?
- MavRevMatt, on 07/04/2008, -0/+1Or Fedora?
- muniak, on 07/03/2008, -2/+2"...which in time will become what everyone was expecting."
I... well, okay? I'll probably stick with the not-poop color though. - 5LRoll, on 07/03/2008, -5/+1personally I don't love the color, but I don't think that is what really matters.
- BZKyle, on 07/03/2008, -2/+2So You'd rather stare at something that you hate day after day?
- someguy92, on 07/04/2008, -0/+2I'd rather spend a minute and change the theme.
- Sairgem, on 07/04/2008, -0/+1www.gnome-look.org
Find a theme you like, you're not held down to two themes like windows.
- BZKyle, on 07/03/2008, -2/+2So You'd rather stare at something that you hate day after day?
- johnnybroken, on 07/03/2008, -5/+7I wasn't expecting turd-brown panels. I was expecting my sound card to work.
- 3leggedHorse, on 07/03/2008, -3/+6I do not understand what all the ***** about the theme is, because it's so easy to trick it out yourself. Ever heard of gnome-look.org.
- YMBwithVD, on 07/03/2008, -1/+5Seriously. I don't know why everybody is bitching and moaning about the color scheme. It's not like you don't have the option to change it to damn near anything you want. Personally, I don't think it looks all that bad.
- ozid, on 07/03/2008, -1/+5yes but the best layouts on there are OS X and Vista clones.
All the others look childish or incomplete. there are a few good ones. But my problem is once i start customizing and changing things, I have to change it every week like my wallpaper. I'd rather it just come with something sweet to begin with.
- brainnovate, on 07/25/2008, -4/+2gosh I guess I was expecting something more different from the old theme. only major diff I see is the brown got browner. *shrug*
- PlatanoPower, on 07/04/2008, -0/+1this is alpha 1, 4 months away from release
- mundens, on 07/03/2008, -0/+1But have they got a fixed version of gvfs yet?
The one in 8.04 was horribly broken, and it's why I had to go back to Windows 2000 for normal use. - CrushThemTorg, on 07/03/2008, -1/+6At least Xubuntu will probably still look good.
- bushface, on 07/03/2008, -0/+3I was just thinking how much like xubuntu it already looks.
- MattBD, on 07/04/2008, -0/+1I love the current wallpaper in Xubuntu, but I use Kubuntu as my main OS.
- over9k, on 07/03/2008, -6/+9Linux a classic example of something written by programmers for programmers. The theme sucks, the fonts sucks. It's not very slick. They really need to hire some professional designers. Open source doesn't cut it sometimes.
- CalcProgrammer1, on 07/03/2008, -3/+0If they had to hire designers, that'd cost money. You can't give away a free OS if you have to put a lot of money into making it. I would take bad themes over paying for Ubuntu anyday, seeing as I can go to gnome-look and pick up some nice shiny themes for my Ubuntu install anyways. I personally don't think the normal theme (Human) is that bad, though the theme posted here in Ibex doesn't look that great. I kinda like the orange on white look from the current version. I think that orange gives Linux necessary contrast from the greens and blues of Microsoft's products, making it look different and new. Orange I can accept and I think is good, brown not so much.
- MavRevMatt, on 07/04/2008, -0/+1There are tons of designers on other projects, Tango, Fedora, who would gladly do some work on a UI for it. The problem is I think Canonical doesn't put it as a top priority.
- PlatanoPower, on 07/04/2008, -0/+2Human is awesome
- kwilliam, on 07/04/2008, -0/+2"You can't give away a free OS if you have to put a lot of money into making it."
Actually, CalcProgrammer1, you CAN give away a free OS after putting lots of money into it. Canonical employs lots of people to write Ubuntu. Companies like Canonical and Red Hat make money by selling customer support contracts. In addition, hundreds of programmers are payed full time by companies like IBM and Nokia to work on open source. More than 70% of all Linux kernel development is now done by developers who are being paid for that work.
Where was I? Oh, yes: Ubuntu could EASILY hire a graphic designer. (Maybe they already do? Scary thought.)
- kwilliam, on 07/04/2008, -0/+2This is not a problem with "open source". There are open source projects with beautiful artwork. (Just look at the icons in KDE4.) This is a problem with Ubuntu. 'Tis very hard to make brown beautiful.
- MattBD, on 07/04/2008, -0/+1gOS have hired a former Apple guy to make their OS look good, and by and large they have succeeded. And it's among the most user friendly distros I have ever used.
- CalcProgrammer1, on 07/03/2008, -3/+0If they had to hire designers, that'd cost money. You can't give away a free OS if you have to put a lot of money into making it. I would take bad themes over paying for Ubuntu anyday, seeing as I can go to gnome-look and pick up some nice shiny themes for my Ubuntu install anyways. I personally don't think the normal theme (Human) is that bad, though the theme posted here in Ibex doesn't look that great. I kinda like the orange on white look from the current version. I think that orange gives Linux necessary contrast from the greens and blues of Microsoft's products, making it look different and new. Orange I can accept and I think is good, brown not so much.
- ronaldmonster, on 07/03/2008, -3/+17Personally, if Ubuntu was gonna change anything I would rather they enlist help from the guy from Deviantart that created this theme.
http://willwill100.deviantart.com/art/Ubuntu-Mocku ...
I think it hit the front page once, not sure.- MavRevMatt, on 07/04/2008, -2/+1It's only a mockup though.
- knopper67, on 07/04/2008, -2/+2Who cares...
I'd rather look at this mockup all day than stare at some *****-brown desktop.
- knopper67, on 07/04/2008, -2/+2Who cares...
- IAmCuteKitty, on 07/04/2008, -0/+2It did hit the front page http://digg.com/linux_unix/Ubuntu_8_04_Mock_Up
- LinuxGalore, on 07/04/2008, -3/+1Yep, get a boring Vista black theme and use a dock with Apple icons, very original...
- MavRevMatt, on 07/04/2008, -2/+1It's only a mockup though.
- trebol, on 07/03/2008, -0/+2I really don't care how ugly it is because I switch all mine to a clean & pretty mac theme. It's a shame they scare away new users with the ugly themes though--you can make the whole interface look like anything you want.
- irgeorge, on 07/03/2008, -0/+8No comment on the colour. My real issue with this is why are all the Gnome GUI controls so chunky? I seems like they're tried to create something minimal or simple but just ended up creating a load of patronisingly massive buttons. Unattractive and totally unnecessary.
- brian1027, on 07/04/2008, -0/+1you might be right, they may have done it to be basic, but that is the good thing about gnome, you can make it whatever you wish!
- Leviathan88, on 07/03/2008, -1/+7yeah, that brown theme surely looks like *****, but:
gnomelook.org
xfce-look.org
kdelook.org- MavRevMatt, on 07/04/2008, -0/+2Why don't people get that while that's great that's not the real problem. Sure you can change it but the default theme is the first thing a new user sees and leaves a lasting impression. It needs to look good for the person to consider trying it in most cases.
- Apocalyptic0n3, on 07/03/2008, -0/+3I have no problem with the way it looks (no matter what theme they are using, it doesn't quite work). Everytime I've used Linux in the recent years (I'd use it when I got sick of Windows before buying my MacBook), it's been Kubuntu. Honestly, KDE>Gnome. By miles.
- stuma9000, on 07/04/2008, -2/+1Well you guys can bitch but it looks more professional than any linux desktop i've seen before. Still if there's a good OSX like skin that's be the go.
- MattBD, on 07/04/2008, -0/+1You want Mac4Lin:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/mac4lin
- MattBD, on 07/04/2008, -0/+1You want Mac4Lin:
- marvinaus, on 07/04/2008, -0/+1You're right on the first impressions of new users but most of the theme haters sound like they've got *nix experience.
- pudly, on 07/04/2008, -1/+3"
Comment #1 by linwin on 2008-07-03, 13:03 GMT reply to this comment
I'd like to try Ubuntu but I was warned to be very careful about using Linux.
There is some scary stuff out there like The Truth about Linux. I really don't want all my work to be owned by the Microsoft Corporation because of infringing software.
How long can I use Ubuntu for? If I use it for 30 days and delete it afterwards will I still get sued?"
hahahahahahahaha
*breath*
ahahahahahahahahahahhah- Fubarepublic, on 07/04/2008, -2/+0How can open source infringe on Microsoft's code if no one has ever seen it to compare, copy?
- JohnnyKdiggs, on 07/04/2008, -1/+2If anybody on the artwork team is listening...
Please don't do this. - bigpook, on 07/04/2008, -1/+5Come on guys, its ALPHA! This is going to go through so many changes before its released 6 months from now.....be patient. Ubuntu rocks!
- muya, on 07/04/2008, -1/+3Talk about brown and out.
- IAmCuteKitty, on 07/04/2008, -0/+6needs more cowbell
- Nobiting, on 07/04/2008, -2/+1I'm really loving this brown theme!
- Colesif, on 07/04/2008, -0/+2I think we all understand that the theme can be changed. As true, and simple as that may be for the current users, if Ubuntu wants to be successful in the eyes of society, it needs an identifiable and attractive theme. This theme will only cater to a small audience in its present form. They need to use neutral colors with attractive widgets that separates the Ubuntu theme from every other Clearlooks/Murrine knockoff out there.
- tomd123, on 07/04/2008, -1/+1You guys act like Ubuntu is w*nd*ws and you can't customize *****. It's called Settings->Preferences->Appearances and voila. Gosh dang it.
- brian1027, on 07/04/2008, -0/+1and you can change it to do anything and look like anything else without spending a dime! Gotta Love Gnome!
- RoccoMcTaco, on 07/04/2008, -0/+3What Can Brown Do For You?
- pHr34kY, on 07/04/2008, -0/+1Hmm... they haven't thrown OpenOffice3 in yet.
- kahrytan, on 07/04/2008, -0/+1
First people, it is ALPHA. and two, there is other artwork designs. like this one https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/ ... - deadbaby, on 07/04/2008, -1/+1They should really have a startup wizard that lets you pick between a few different themes. One theme can't possibly please everyone and most people are ignorant enough to judge Ubuntu by the default theme instead of clicking 3 or 4 times to switch it themselves.
- ptFoe, on 07/04/2008, -1/+2Elegant Brit FTW
http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Elegant+Bri ... - quail20, on 07/04/2008, -0/+0As an Ubuntu newbie, I rather like the 'clunky' buttons. Yea, they could be prettied up a bit but I prefer it to running command lines and referring to my internet notes to see if I'm doing something right. So far 80% of what I've been told to do by command line I can do more intuitively with the clunky buttons.
- Hayl, on 07/04/2008, -1/+1That theme looks like poo with a dose of gray clay. WTF were / are they thinking? That is some seriously FUGLY sh_t! It's too bad that Ubuntu can't figure out proper theme colouring... it's been bad since the beginning but this is the cumulation of fugliness imho.
- Stonedonkey, on 07/04/2008, -1/+1Never mind.
- Avian00, on 07/04/2008, -0/+1At the risk of sounding a little OCD...
Holy crap! Use a freaking slideshow app to present your photos! I can't even being to express my hatred of the grid of thumbnails linked directly to jpg files! It's 2008! There's a better way to display a large group of images!
...ranting aside, I actually like where they're going with the new theme. - LoreArtifex, on 07/04/2008, -0/+0Please resize Nautilus toolbar! It's a third of the screen... #_#
- Stonekeeper, on 07/04/2008, -0/+1You cannot unsee what you have seen :(
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