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Ubuntu Dapper Drake 6.06 Guide
krazypenguin.net — An amazing, thorough guide on Ubuntu Dapper Drake 6.06
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- celticeric, on 10/12/2007, -1/+18This guide is invaluable. Everything you need to know, really.
It's got all the howto's on adding repositories, enable multimedia codecs (including DVD decryption), and useful non-GPL'd software.
It also has useful howto's for setuping networking and hardware.
It basically contains all the information that Ubuntu users are familiar with from the unoffical starter guide for Ubuntu 5.04 (at http://ubuntuguide.org/) but updated for 6.06.
Added bonus, it's a wiki format so it shouldn't go out of date like the unofficial starter guide did when it's author stopped maintaining it.- nailbunny, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13dapper tastes like love and chocolate fudge iced cupcakes.
- chrono13, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Except this Wiki looks like it might be a copy of EasyLinux's work that they did in February and March.
See this comment: http://digg.com/linux_unix/Ubuntu_Dapper_Drake_6.06_Guide#c1770419
If they wanted to improve the Wiki, why didn't they just contribute to the already kick-ass one already in place, rather than copy it and split the wiki-editing [potentially] in half? - celticeric, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yeah, it looks like this is just a copy of http://easylinux.info/
Hmmm.... I guess it doesn't hurt to have a mirror. And the info in original is open sourced. Still, I hope it doesn't create unnecessary confusion.
It looks like easylinux.info loads quiker too. - celticeric, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Actually, on closer inspection, there are some differences and this new wiki does properly cite the original and give a link. I guess that makes it a wiki fork?
- I922sParkCir, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4This is a great guide and reference for beginners. It will get them started and show them how to make Ubuntu 6.06 far more usable than Windows.
- jvux, on 10/12/2007, -10/+5good guide, worth putting down the porno mag to read
- LegendarySock, on 10/12/2007, -9/+3honestly, still pictures are so last millenium
- nailbunny, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2nothin' doin'. it's stuck to my hand.
- HoldenDapen0r, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6what about the http://www.easylinux.info guide to ubuntu? It looks like its just about the same thing.
Wait... is it the same thing?- javajunkee, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Funny!
- millixaw, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Oddly similar to http://www.ubuntuguide.org too... o_O
- chrono13, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Easy Linux Info has been linked to from the "how to get help" section of ubuntu.com: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToGetHelp
And the above link to How To Get Help is overall more useful.
It looks as if this wiki creator just copied Easy Linux's info.
Compare histories: http://www.krazypenguin.net/index.php?title=Ubuntu_Dapper_Drake_6.06_Guide&action=history&offset=0&limit=500
http://easylinux.info/index.php?title=Ubuntu_dapper&action=history&offset=0&limit=500
Now wiki's with identical info (for now) and goals will be edited in two places... ugh. That's one way to slow a wiki documentation project. - krampo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3It is the same thing (copy of it), they even haven't transferred downloadable files to their site, just linking to http://easylinux.info
They should've better contribute to that guide, than copying it and wasting time...IMHO
- cfuentea, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Excelent Guide, and it's a wiki! great..
- Cbeck527, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Very Slow,
http://duggmirror.com/linux_unix/Ubuntu_Dapper_Drake_6.06_Guide - admirabumblebee, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Wow, that's very nice
- radu79, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8It's a nice guide, but how the hell is it amazing?
Why does everything that makes it to the front page here have to be "amazing", "mind blowing" and "stunning"?- sud0n1m, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9This comment - it is amazing, mind blowing. Im stunned.
- as2003, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2What is it about Ubuntu that's made it so popular so quickly?
http://www.google.com/trends?q=ubuntu%2C+gentoo%2C+redhat- sud0n1m, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Wow, that feature of google rocks. I think a more appropriate comparison would be:
http://www.google.com/trends?q=ubuntu%2C+gentoo%2C+fedora%2C+suse%2C+debian&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all - nailbunny, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5it's the brown that does it.
- clouseau, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I'm not sure. Since there's been so much hype about it I downloaded an iso and burned a live CD a few days ago. It's all right, I guess, but nothing amazing. I'll stick with FreeBSD for now, and check back in a year.
- nailbunny, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2you see, freebsd doesnt work on my laptop. of course it runs netbsd, but ubuntu recognises all my hardware with no bs. ubuntu works on nearly everything i've tried it on, and that's dozens of various computers at installfests. and if ubuntu doesn't work, there's a very rare chance something else will.
plus, it installs quickly from one cd, plus there's a friendly gui based package manager, although you may argue that portage pwnz.
my experience has been that freebsd ***** up my partition table and didn't recognise my display. suse worked with my hardware but was dreadfully slow and yast was a pain in the ass. mandrake was iffy and it was hard to get anything done in there.
before ubuntu, installing an OS was an ordeal that spanned several days. now i can install, update, and install a ***** of programs in a rather streamlined manner, without headaches.
you should look to see if you downloaded 5.10 or 6.06. there's no cause to come back in a year, dapper is enterprise quality now. now, your freebsd install may be leaner, slightly faster, and more customized to your system, you probably don't need it at this point, but you'll know when you do, and it will be ready for you. - Xeppo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Ubuntu is so great because it is easy. No, it doesn't have every program known to man like Suse, Mandrake, and Red Hat have. It's a single CD. It's not hard to configure (for new users) like Gentoo, but it is just as flexible as Debian. It has (relatively) up-to-date packages, and they'll send you a CD for free. Not to mention, their forums are the best I've ever encountered.
(oh, and random rant: Common distro names should be included in the spell check dictionary)
Edit: nailbunny, you beat me by 30 seconds >.> - nailbunny, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Nobody catches the bunny.
- LoveDub, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Try putting Windows onto that list of search terms and you'll get an idea of how far Linux still has to go... and I'm a Linux supporter.
- w0mbat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0At a guess...
99% of people who put "ubuntu" into Google are looking for ubuntu linux. Also, the domain www.ubuntu.com is pretty easy to guess, so fewer ppl will search for it.
Perhaps 5% of people searching for "Windows" are after something other than MS Windows. Double-Glazed windows, stained glass windows... erm.
But yes, you're right, linux still has a long way to go, especially in gaining popular acceptance. - trollenlord, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Eat *cough*, 900 billion flies can not be wrong.
- sud0n1m, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Wow, that feature of google rocks. I think a more appropriate comparison would be:
- YumZ, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2A lot of that is from the original Unofficial Ubuntu Starter's Guide. Very useful, nonetheless.
- clearzen, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I just started using linux about a month ago when I saw ubuntu 6.06. This guide is exactly the kind of information I need. I do reccomend easy ubuntu for the codecs though. It's far less time consuming.
- wsfulmer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2hardly amazing - just a rehash of the old guide. and would it have killed the author to break it up into actual pages??
- bitshifter, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1Wow, I never could have found this with a google search!! Thank you so much.
Jesus *****. - xtr3m, on 10/12/2007, -6/+2So Ubuntu is supposedly one of the most user friendly Linux distributions to use, yet this "amazing" and "invaluable" guide is basically a command line orgy.
Linux is going to remain as an OS for gee... ahem... very specific group of people until it becomes humanly possible to update a browser without having to h4x your way through some sort of a command line.- vh1`, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3good thing it's already at that state
- nailbunny, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4i'm going to take a shot in the dark and guess that you haven't run ubuntu, xtr3m.
based off that assumption, i'll educate you. there's this thing called synaptic. it's gui based. you search for almost ANY software available for linux, you find it there, it downloads it and installs it automatically. you can update everything you have with a few clicks.
what this guide is about is for two types of things. one is the not free software that ubuntu wasnt allowed to package, and how to get it. dvd stuff, namely. second is for stuff that the normal user doesnt really have to do.
i installed this on my dad's computer, he got it up, ran firefox, saw all his bookmarks, and the only reason he won't run it is because it doesnt have his passwords saved yet. that's the level of difficulty we're talking about. - psylence, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5This guide is command-line based because you can't copy-paste mouse clicks.
I'll let the millions of people using Linux know that it's too hard for you to figure out. We'll get right on it. - mwales, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1If your following a guide, it is easiest to just cut-and-paste command line statements, than to tell a user how to navigate through the synaptic GUI. A good portion of the stuff talked about in the guide could be accomplished by using synaptic package manager.
It really doesn't need the command line as much as you might think. There is still editing config files here and there on occasion. Even then, when you get to tasks like that, it's typically dealing with installing some service where the user has command line skills anyways (like setting up Apache, installing MySQL, etc). The synaptic package manager has taken a majority of the sting of using a linux system.
- BenStockwell, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5@ xtr3m
Actually, Ubuntu will automatically tell you when updates to software are available.- Xeppo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Actually, Ubuntu basically locks the software to where only security patches and minor updates actually get updated. In 5.10, people couldn't easily upgrade to Firefox 1.5 because they never released an update in the official repositories.
IIRC, even Ubuntu backports failed to add Firefox 1.5. - nailbunny, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2welcome to 6.06.
- Xeppo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Actually, Ubuntu basically locks the software to where only security patches and minor updates actually get updated. In 5.10, people couldn't easily upgrade to Firefox 1.5 because they never released an update in the official repositories.
- Quash, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0This is actually a straight ripoff of the Easylinux Guide (http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper) that's been in existence since Breezy and has been updating and moving over to Dapper for quite some time.
KrazyPenguin has just ripped it off blindly. You can check Edit dates and see for yourself.
Here's the real guide:
http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper
The real guide has a real community of contributors. Join and improve it for the Ubuntu community to benefit from.- Xeppo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This wiki seems to be a compilation of about five different sources, not just the one you mentioned. Doing a quick print preview gives me an extra 20 or so pages. (not that that really means anything, but---)
I agree that this should all be in one place. Splitting it amongst 5 different sites is just going to cause disorder and make the information inconsistent.
At least the wiki sited the page you mentioned as a source - LoveDub, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1As far as I can see there is no attribution or acknowledgement of the source of the information, which means that this is a copyright violation. Try searching the site for EasyLinux, nothing comes up even though it is clear the information is copied directly. The GNU Free Documentation License requires attribution and acknowledgement of the source of the work in any work derived therefrom - http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/fdl.html
KrazyPenguin is lame. - LoveDub, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Okay, I did find an attribution of the source, but honestly, why duplicate an existing site? Rather contribute to the usefulness of the original. Mindless egotism.
- Xeppo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This wiki seems to be a compilation of about five different sources, not just the one you mentioned. Doing a quick print preview gives me an extra 20 or so pages. (not that that really means anything, but---)
- BenStockwell, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"Actually, Ubuntu basically locks the software to where only security patches and minor updates actually get updated. In 5.10, people couldn't easily upgrade to Firefox 1.5 because they never released an update in the official repositories.
IIRC, even Ubuntu backports failed to add Firefox 1.5."
So then you download the latest version of Firefox from Mozilla.org, and run that. Windows users don't seem to mind.
Step 1: Download binary package
Step 2: Extract
Step 3: Click on executable
Wow, that's so difficult. - nooreazy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!! DUGG
- codyman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Ubuntu has been taking names for a long time from people who were against it.... now its taking those names and kicking ass....
- nailbunny, on 10/12/2007, -5/+4omg, linux is so teh lame. did u guys know that when u click on 'terminal', there's a COMMAND LINE! there's a LINE where you can type COMMANDS omg! why would any1 want a distro with that option omg. who cares if u can do everything u need in kde, gnome, enlightenment, blackbox, or openbox, thru the gui if that COMMAND LINE is all leik hiding, weighting to strike.
COMMAND LINEs is all leik jack ruby man. i mean, teh d00ds dead and all but d00d, he shot l3e harvey 0sw4ld man, and u better watch teh fukk out man, or he get u 2. fuk computars newayz. at christmas parties we used 2 make r own entertainment. i used 2 strike myself on the ead repeatedly w/ blunt inscruments repeatedly while crooning
ONLY MAEK BELIEF I LUV U *SMACK SMACK* ONLY MEK BELIEF THAT U LUV M3- IMesh, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0You have a lot to learn young one. Once you find the power of the command line then you will understand. There are plenty of things that are easier to do under the GUI but there are alot of things that the CLI does just as well or better.
- nailbunny, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1OMG ur a bright 1. i bet u could spot sarcsm w/ I's behind ur hed. u even maek new wrods, liek 'alot' omg.
course ----I---- cold NEVR b sarcastic. zomg. cuz obv all my othr posts is all leik teh same zomg. u want squirrl mang? im not gona et all mine.
- DigDuality, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1fact of the matter is this.
There's really not much you can't do in the GUI anymore. Maybe some tool for xorg.conf would be nice, but beyond that... i can do everything i need via the GUI.
I can install software, uninstall it, link libraries, i have a ton of network tools, the list goes on and on.
So why do almost ALL guides tell you to do stuff via the command line in linux? Well the answer is really simple folks.
I "could" explain to a user.. hey.. click here, open this menu, and click this blue/green icon, ok and one the 3rd tab from the right you should see this..huh? not there? what do you mean it's not there? Lets back track.. b/c you're not in the right spot.
OR
I could tell them to copy and paste one line off a website into a command line and press enter.
While it intimidates people, it avoids a ton of confusion.- nailbunny, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2well! omg did u taek me seriousli! i don't eat squirrels, do i! and if i did! well!
- Chozabu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"Maybe some tool for xorg.conf would be nice"
running kde in dapper, and theres a "Display" control in system settings, which configures most of xorg.conf
i dont think it has an option for what extensions you want enabled...
- miaow, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1its a great list. I find the ubuntu website is a bit awkward to find information. Im sure its there but I get lost. even the forum can be a bit pointless (no replies). something like this with the basics listed sensibly is whats needed
- Snakedal337, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I dont understand why ubuntu docteams exist. It seems no one bothers to even glance at the help files with contain all this + more.
As a kubuntu docteam writer, it really pisses me off. Okay yes, its fine to go to outside sources to get info, but I wish people would stop writing what has been written before and contribute to making the offical guides better.- miaow, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I can understand you being annoyed. you are probably right. I think the problem is that maybe we don't realise it exists or we have to jump through hoops to get to the page. Most of the time all I want is the sudo command, and over time we might not need them at all.
Ubuntu website feels complicated to me. Dont know if it is or not. Finding the forum is awkward on the home page.
Keep up the good work, cos despite me unfairly complaining (its probably me thats the problem ;) ), all the people that were sensible enough to look for your help appreciate it.
- miaow, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I can understand you being annoyed. you are probably right. I think the problem is that maybe we don't realise it exists or we have to jump through hoops to get to the page. Most of the time all I want is the sudo command, and over time we might not need them at all.
- Xilon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Yes, yes great guide and all but isn't it a bit similar to http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper ? Yeah, I know it's in the acknowladgments but what's the point of duplicating a wiki?...
- adamforster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0This guide seems really useful, however it doesn't seem to contain any info on wireless networking, surely a must have these days.
- firepol, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0If you are upgrading from breezy to dapper you may encounter some issues. I wrote a post and documented the issues that affected my upgraded dapper distro (openoffice removed, kde menu icons not updated, sound not working anymore, firefox 1.5 and thunderbird 1.5): http://www.pbworks.net/wp/2006/05/23/upgrading-ubuntu-breezy-to-dapper/
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