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Ubuntu Live 2008 Canceled

linux.com — Planning on going to Ubuntu Live 2008 in July? Think again. It's been canceled.

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  • RedTroll, on 05/21/2008, -567/+104They should also cancel Ubuntu...

    (digg this comment down if you ever want to lose your virginity)
    • Kingoftherings, on 05/21/2008, -11/+164You should be canceled.
    • vpshockwave, on 05/21/2008, -6/+66LOL. I opened the page and you were at -1 dig. I hit dig down, and you were at -22. I loled.
    • actionscripted, on 05/21/2008, -11/+60If you can use Linux -- beyond just point-and-click, you may be smart.
      If you're smart, you can think and study logically.
      If you think and study logically you can use this to develop superior social skills.
      If you have superior socials skills you can meet women easily.
      If you can meet women easily, you'll probably get laid.

      The whole nerd-in-a-basement-with-no-social-life-and-bad-acne thing is so 90's.
      • yeskia, on 05/21/2008, -5/+47Your logic fails at step 3:

        "If you think and study logically you can use this to develop superior social skills."
        • sockpuppets, on 05/21/2008, -1/+16* if you're a vulcan.
        • smacksaw, on 05/21/2008, -1/+17or if you're a sociopath...social skills don't come from analysis, but generally giving a ***** about other people. You either care or you don't.
        • VinceNoir, on 05/21/2008, -0/+12Illogical. I've been highly socially successful using my strong logical abilities and analysis of irrational human behavior. You should see the roster of people I know in SecondLife.
      • kipmartin, on 05/21/2008, -13/+10the nerd-in-a-basement analogy still holds.

        and isnt 2008 the "Year of the Linux Desktop" likes its been for the previous 8 years?
      • ibid49, on 05/21/2008, -0/+7Yeah, thinking and studying logically has always been a great way to understand women!
      • Pixelante, on 05/21/2008, -2/+3Wrong. If you're good-looking, healthy and rich you'll get laid for sure. And often good-looking, healthy and rich people develop superior social skills thanks to a good measure of self-confidence.
        The geek will always fail against the handsome.
    • TheRealToma, on 05/21/2008, -6/+43New Digg comments dig/bury tally:
      ***** THING SUCKS.
      It was 0 when I buried, -49 after it processed!
      • strictnein, on 05/21/2008, -3/+15I find this new commenting system to be total junk from top to bottom. Tons of space wasted on the left side of each comment, much tougher to follow comment threads, and WTF is with loading 600 comments with AJAX? Makes no sense at all.
        • cawpin, on 05/21/2008, -0/+5It isn't AJAX any more if what the video from several weeks ago said is true.
        • strictnein, on 05/21/2008, -0/+4Well, whatever they're using, it requires a metric ***** of external javascript.
      • ZeroFive1, on 05/22/2008, -0/+2For me, -438.

        NERDS UNITE.
    • jerrycan, on 05/21/2008, -3/+9I dugg you down! It worked! I have 2 kids now. And and a time machine too!
      • VinceNoir, on 05/21/2008, -0/+4Nonsense. Only *I* have a time machine. I've had it for nearly 40 years and it's damn fine.
        • gn0stik, on 05/21/2008, -0/+2Do us all a favor, and go back and party with gwb, give him WAY too much coke.
    • melat0nin, on 05/21/2008, -5/+28I run Ubuntu and I'm not a virgin.

      Sorry.
      • employeeno5, on 05/21/2008, -3/+4I don't get the whole Linux is only used by uber geeks things. Maybe it used to be, but using Linux is hip now. It's the "punk rock" os these days.

        Apple used to have the monopoly on counter culture (or at least people who like to think of themselves as that) computer use, because it wasn't Windows and marketed it's brand well, and most people without an interest in computers either didn't know about Linux or believed it too difficult for them to bother with.

        Lately though, it's all the rage with sexy art school chicks, hipster musicians, the whole neo craft and diy movement, etc.
        Hell, one friend who's using Xubuntu is a successful fetish/porn model.
        In other words, attractive young people who are very social who get laid a lot.
        It's a crowd that even if you think is full of ***** and posturing are typically seen as "the cool kids"

        I'm not saying you have to respect or be impressed with that kind of crowd, I'm just saying it's a big mistake to think Ubuntu's current popularity explosion has come from lonely geeks. It's come from being a Linux distro that's been branded and promoted well as something for people who aren't sexless tech junkies.
        That includes regular computer users of all kinds, backgrounds and interests.

        Not to mention, there's plenty of super-nerds and other such IT people who are perfectly sexy anyways.

        Linux is cool now. You don't have to like it, or like the people who think it's cool, but there you go; it is what it is. It's cool and easy to pick up and start using.
        • Flummoxer, on 05/21/2008, -3/+3No. No it isn't.
        • bas4ball, on 05/21/2008, -2/+1Yes. Yes it is.
        • Archer007, on 05/21/2008, -0/+1Its a case of the "old guard" command-line diehard types resenting the new "whats-a-command-line?" people.
      • gn0stik, on 05/21/2008, -0/+1Your hacked AI'd realdolls don't count.
    • unrealmp3, on 05/21/2008, -0/+6I saw you were at 0 when I loaded the page, and now you are at -146 when I voted.

      How constructive from a RedTroll
    • tehjarvis, on 05/21/2008, -0/+15If I vote you up do I get my virginity back?
      I was drunk and woke up next to what I thought only could have been a diseased walrus.
      Turned out to be a really fat chick.
      A really really really fat chick.
    • Kmap, on 05/21/2008, -3/+10Digg comment system sucks ass!
    • HonestAbe, on 05/21/2008, -6/+8I started running Ubuntu after the girl who took my virginity started running Ubuntu. So there.
    • stevene, on 05/21/2008, -2/+9Wow this really sucks. I buried you and it instantly said -163. Maybe the comments system needed more time in the oven.
    • roflbrothel, on 05/21/2008, -1/+3I use Ubuntu all the time and I've been with more fine girls that you've got the balls to be rejected by.
    • n3tfury, on 05/21/2008, -2/+2scared?
    • TechCF, on 05/21/2008, -4/+2Real GFs run *nix ;)
    • ttux1, on 05/21/2008, -2/+1+1 for They should also cancel Ubuntu...
  • EmitStop, on 05/21/2008, -7/+21How lame
  • richman241, on 05/21/2008, -7/+13I was hoping they would show the redesigned them for the next ubuntu....
  • dawnraid101, on 05/21/2008, -153/+12Yay cancel ***** linux then ill be happy.
    • Tyr7BE, on 05/21/2008, -3/+5Just how sour are those grapes you're eating?
    • ruskie, on 05/21/2008, -5/+3Why are you if something you don't need to care about being canceled?
    • Spankov, on 05/21/2008, -3/+10Run Ballmer! Incoming eggs!
      • Pixelante, on 05/21/2008, -0/+1I've seen Ballmer entering an IKEA store. I've heard he was stocking up on ammo.
    • searayman, on 05/21/2008, -1/+2What exactly do you not like about linux?
    • AdHaR, on 05/22/2008, -0/+1You should be cancelled too...just like RedTroll above...
    • jay019, on 05/22/2008, -0/+1Hi Steve!!!

      You forgot to say "And cancel that ***** GOOGLE!!!" before throwing a chair.
  • limezor2, on 05/21/2008, -11/+68Your comment dropped by 20 points when I reloaded the page.
    So...Ubuntu ROCKS! = +20?
  • suntzusputnik, on 05/21/2008, -9/+41can they still cancel the cancelation?
    • SteveMax, on 05/21/2008, -0/+8They planned to, but had to cancel it.
  • GeorgeStone2, on 05/21/2008, -14/+25I'm on ubuntu now because I'm setting up a server on it.
    I must say that coming from Windows there are a lot of annoying features to linux.
    For example getting things to run as root is a pain. But I made a little launcher that can open stuff as root when it's dragged onto it which helps a lot.
    But I would much prefer a right click > Open as root> Password box method.
    • pltnz64, on 05/21/2008, -1/+17they have that as a nautilus extension, where you can just right click an icon and open or edit it as root.
    • GeorgeStone2, on 05/21/2008, -8/+8I'll look into that.
      But they advertise this as a desktop OS that "Just works".
      I can imagine if I were a casual user looking for a windows replacement I would be a little peeved if I had to go into the terminal, sudo root, then open the file by typing the full path.
      Hacking together an OS to make it work isn't how a desktop OS should be.

      All in all I'm happy with Ubuntu. Didn't like Slackware.
      But I would say that their "Just works" slogan is a little presumptuous.

      Also, to those astute readers that noticed I'm setting up a server using the desktop version. There is a reason for this. I am new to linux and didn't want to throw myself in the deep end. But after using it I realize that if I actually want to do anything in linux. I need to use the terminal.
      • balazsbela, on 05/21/2008, -1/+4If you want to set up a server hell yeah you need to use the terminal, prepare for editing config files.That's how real men do it :P

        Not letting the user do anything he wants is a security precaution.
        This is not windows.Also gksu and kdesu is the proper way to go.
        • bigbadgoat, on 05/21/2008, -6/+1one could argue that real men don't set up servers to begin with.
      • DteK, on 05/21/2008, -0/+6You tried slack but didnt want to throw yourself into the deep end?
      • asforme, on 05/21/2008, -0/+3And since when does Windows just work? It's nearly impossible (note, nearly, I know it can be done) to run something as Administrator when you're not logged into windows as Administrator.
        • DteK, on 05/21/2008, -1/+2it just works because most of these dillweeds get a pc with windows installed already.
          Had they tried to install it themselves say on a sata drive, they would think differently
        • Seemefearme, on 05/21/2008, -1/+2I've installed windows onto a SATA drive and had no problem. Don't create the illusion of problems because of self incompetence.
        • GeorgeStone2, on 05/21/2008, -0/+2I have also set up XP on 2 SATA drives in RAID-0 config.
          No problems to date.
        • javaroast, on 05/21/2008, -0/+1If you are really using RAID-0 your day for problems will come. Hope you have good backups.
        • GeorgeStone2, on 05/22/2008, -0/+1Meh, there really isn't much important data on my PC. All stuff that can be redownloaded and reinstalled.
      • SteveMax, on 05/21/2008, -0/+2Why should it be easy to run stuff as root? Basically every program you need toot for is available with a "su" script in your menu (Konqueror, Emacs, the terminal and the package manager). If something doesn't, you shouldn't be trying to use it as root, at least until you're comfortable with running from the terminal.

        I don't know about Ubuntu, but that's how KDE sets it up.
      • mem2, on 05/21/2008, -0/+4well if your coming from a windows server setup that "just works" I imagine you never had to deal with the massive pain in the arse of patching up say 2000 / 2003 to run outlook server. That being said I personally fail to see the need of "gui controls" for server application, as said allready flat text file configs are the way to go.
        Flat text configs have the bonus of commenting etc, at my work every addition / change is first backed up to FILENAME.preDATE, then changes in said file are commented with date, engineer who made change and reason. kill -1 and lovely.
        I personally find most front ends extremely limited and its only a matter of time before you open up the text file or if your on win32, start poking around in registry keys and policy's (sic).
      • LaPistola, on 05/21/2008, -5/+2OS X.. thats where you want to be. It is easier than windows, as powerful as linux. Best of both worlds.
        the only issue is you have to buy apple hardware. But then again it makes for better bug management.
    • talonstriker, on 05/21/2008, -2/+14I agree "just works" is pretty far from the truth. Being a linux newbie, I had to jump thru rings to get my wireless set up. It probably would have been easy for a pro, not so for a newbie.
      "it I realize that if I actually want to do anything in linux"
      Same here. The reason I went with ubuntu was because I heard that you never needed to touch command line...no so true. Until usage of the terminal is no longer required, linux/ubuntu will never go mainstream. Personally after my troubles, I wouldn't recommend linux to anyone who isn't a CS major.
      • priegog, on 05/21/2008, -1/+6A little presumptous aren't we? CS major? Come on... not choosing to go into computer sciences != being stupid at computers. And also I've used linux since I was in HS, so there you go. It's true that linux is not precisely the "where is my straw?" of computing but it's nowhere near as hard as you make it out to be. Specially since the last ~3 years.
      • asforme, on 05/21/2008, -2/+4For the most part, in Ubuntu using the command line isn't required. There are a lot of guis to do things. The problem is that when you google for how to do something the instructions will be written in Command line because the linux experts do not necessarily know where all the guis are. Also which is easy to write a tutorial with? Giving a list of commands to enter, or trying to explain in writing how to navigate a gui?
      • mllawso, on 05/21/2008, -1/+3Bear in mind, Ubuntu is new, and it's getting better with every new release. I installed Hardy on a laptop a week ago, and had everything working within a few minutes: no terminal required.

        /I had a programing teacher that had a master's degree in CS. She though Java was the best language ever, and told us "If you make a typo in C, you can brick your computer."
        //I asked her how that was true since all modern OSs use some form of memory protection, and the code would be run in user-space. *Blank stare*
      • javaroast, on 05/21/2008, -0/+2As we speak one of the big features being touted for Windows Server 2008 is that it can be set up for roles that are configured on the command line.

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_2008#Server_C ...
      • ZeroFive1, on 05/22/2008, -0/+2CS major? You gotta be ***** kidding me. I'm a 13 year old kid with no prior knowledge of UNIX and the only bit of code I've handled is a dumb HTML website, and I could set up ubuntu.

        For newbies: Ubuntuforums. Use it.
    • xtlosx, on 05/21/2008, -9/+4sounds like you need to go back to windows my friend.. these grounds might be un charted for you.
      • MasterPain, on 05/21/2008, -3/+7Another reason why people don't like Linux the I'm better than you people that use it.
      • GeorgeStone2, on 05/21/2008, -1/+5Yeah. I need to go back to windows because there are a few flaws in Linux that I don't like.
        Jesus christ, grow up.
        I mention a few flaws, that some people seem to agree with, and there will always be some arse-hole telling me that I don't belong.
        I get the same from Mac users.

        This is why your OS's aren't mainstream yet. You don't take constructive criticism.

        Either way, server is set up and running. And like i said before. OVERALL I am happy i used linux.
        • HonestAbe, on 05/21/2008, -0/+1Make sure to regenerate your OpenSSL keys. :)
        • dixonHill, on 05/21/2008, -0/+2Amen brother!

          I've been using Linux for years (as well as Windows, Mac and various Unices) and the thing that's bothered me most about Linux is the vocal minority of its supporters who insist on waving around whatever knowledge they've acquired as though everyone who knows any less is unworthy of their time, and shouldn't even consider wanting to be a member of the club.

          It's "open source" people....it's supposed to be a community! You know, those things where members welcome newcomers, show them around, and provide whatever orienting help they can as a nod of appreciation to those who did the same for them?!?

          Glad to hear you got your server up and running. Have fun!
        • DteK, on 05/21/2008, -1/+2This is what we do on digg.
          You should try you OS's support forum for useful advise
    • Qchan, on 05/21/2008, -1/+0If you're setting up a server on a Linux box, then why set ANYTHING to root? That doesn't make sense to me. I assume the application you're trying to set up is going to be up for a while, so why go through the security risk of running it as root when you can run it under user rights?
      • GeorgeStone2, on 05/21/2008, -0/+3No, I have installed it to run under its own user in it's own user group.
        It was just when I was editing config files and such, I had to sudo.
        I couldn't just click on the config file, open it, and save it.
        I had to open it from the terminal as root.

        Just seemed like a hassle to me. Then again maybe I did something wrong. If there's a better way, speak up.
        • HonestAbe, on 05/21/2008, -0/+1Open Deskbar, type "gksudo gedit"? I think they're working on better methods using PolicyKit or something.
        • schotty, on 05/21/2008, -0/+1Actually, that is the point. Doing changes to a server has implications. Really, you want to be sure of what you are doing. For me, what I do is setup a sudo gedit shortcut that allows me to edit a file with a right click and then it asks me for my password. I wish that anything in /etc/ or /boot/ would behave that way by default, but I suppose if it meant that much to me, I would learn to code and fix it eh?

          However that said, I think there is a different logic to how a server (whether whitebox or mainframe) is managed and that of my laptop and towers at home. For the server I prefer the approach Red Hat pushes. On the desktop, Linspire and Ubuntu work out better overall due to the overall "religion" of how to handle the whole root thing.

          But if you want any tips for saving time and energy while maintaining servers, buzz me. I have been running many many many servers as a sidejob for some time now that has gone full bore. I have found little things that have made life really blissful when it comes to managing them.
    • VinceNoir, on 05/21/2008, -11/+2Ow. This is why I hate Ubuntu. Idiots like you are learning nothing about Linux at all. You're learning the Ubuntu way which is pretty much like the MS way. If you need to be spoonfed, stick with Windows. Ubuntu is NOT Linux. It's just a Linux distribution that puts a helmet, kneepads, body armor, and lubes you up all at once. And it does it in a padded cell. All the while giving you a self-activating noose and mounting the button that controls the noose in the palm of your hand.
      • GeorgeStone2, on 05/21/2008, -2/+4This post basically translates to "***** your C, I write all my programs in ASM using a Dvorak keyboard"

        Seriously. You label me as an "idiot" even though I have stated that I ended up using the terminal pretty much 80%.
        I didn't move files via CLI unless the folders were locked.
        Does that make me scum or something? Just because 2 clicks of the mouse and a swift wrist flick will put a file somewhere else? Should i have typed the 90 characters to get that file to move there? No I should not have.
        And if you think I should have then you don't know much about maximizing efficiency.
      • HonestAbe, on 05/21/2008, -0/+1If Ubuntu is not Linux, then I don't want Linux.

        No one should have to learn about HTTP headers before browsing the web; no one should have to compile a program from source in order to draw a picture.
        • VinceNoir, on 05/21/2008, -3/+3Well... I think you're talking about people who don't really want to make the fullest use of their computers. People who want to be slaves to the ***** that software and opportunist hardware companies hook them on. You want to be able to watch your TV via WiFi? What's that? I have to buy a Slingbox for way too much money? But not me... I just build xine-lib and xine-ui on the two boxes involved and now my home brew PVR works just like a slingbox, only better because I didn't have to waste money on anything.

          You want to play a DVD over the WiFi from your laptop's unused drive on your media center? What? You can't do that without getting extra software from third party, crap software companies? Not me... I just compile the kernel with network block device support on both ends and export the device (not a ***** useless file share) so it appears to be an internal drive on the media center.

          THAT is why people SHOULD learn these things. They're not hard. People who don't learn them and instead throw money at the problem are idiots. I could afford to buy all that crap software and hardware to do the same things with Windows, but why should I when I can do it all for free on Linux?
        • DteK, on 05/21/2008, -1/+2and you dont have to.

          You should know about HTTP headers if you admin a webserver or design sites.
          You may need to compile a prog from source if it is not built with all of the options you need by default or there is no binary for your distro.
        • HonestAbe, on 05/21/2008, -0/+2"Well... I think you're talking about people who don't really want to make the fullest use of their computers."

          No. I'm talking about people who want to *use* their computers, not program them.

          As far as I'm concerned, people who think this low-level knowledge should be mandatory are not welcome in the Ubuntu world. Find a different distro and leave us alone to develop an OS that regular people can actually use to get things done.
      • jay019, on 05/22/2008, -0/+0Why are you even reading a Ubuntu article. Go find some Gentoo articles to shuffle your knuckles to.
    • bj1989, on 05/21/2008, -2/+1Oh come on, what's so hard about sudo/gdksudo [application]. And most of the time you don't even have to do that because the application is already in the system administration menu. If you need to run anything else as root such as nautilus to edit your config files then you're probably not the kind of user that has troubles using the command line.
      • GeorgeStone2, on 05/21/2008, -3/+2It's not that I can't use CLI, just that it would be a lot faster not to.
        I use CLI's of one form or another every day. But it doesn't mean I can't see when something is just long winded.
        There is a reason that GUI's exist. To up productivity.
        • VinceNoir, on 05/21/2008, -4/+3You've been mentally poisoned. The GUI is NEVER faster. It only appears to be if you don't know what the ***** you're doing at the CLI.
        • tiuk, on 05/21/2008, -1/+2Yeah, you're way off, man. The CLI is where the real works gets done. Anyone who knows how to use it will often switch to it for many tasks.
        • bigbadgoat, on 05/21/2008, -0/+4the GUI is NEVER faster?

          Why don't you just wave a big ol' flag that says "I'm a ***** moron"
        • HonestAbe, on 05/21/2008, -2/+2You've been mentally poisoned. The CLI is NEVER faster. It only appears to be if you don't know what the ***** you're doing at the GUI.
        • VinceNoir, on 05/21/2008, -0/+1@HonestAbe

          I've likely been using GUIs since you were in diapers boy. I know more about how to use a GUI than most wet behind the ears wannabes on Digg in fact. It has it's place, but that place is in application space. Not working with the OS.
    • colinnwn, on 05/21/2008, -1/+7Is it as painful as the screen flashing in your face, causing you to jump out of your chair, and asking "Do you want to perform this potentially dangerous, but likely completely normal action? Cancel or Allow?
    • roflbrothel, on 05/21/2008, -1/+2SOOPAR USAR DOOOO!
    • melkore, on 05/21/2008, -0/+2What are you doing that you need to run things as root constantly? The only things that need super user access are those that change system settings. Most programs that I have run into run at the user level. The teamspeak server is the only one I can recall needing me to run it as a su.

      I can see configuration files but a quick sudo /path/to/file is all you need

      Ubuntu is pretty nice in asking you for super user access by itself. Add a new user? Go into Users and Groups and click unlock. It will ask for your password and off you go.

      For those that don't think Ubuntu is linux, go back to Gentoo. It's not to much to ask for a little usability in a linux system. I have done a stage 2 gentoo install but I still prefer Ubuntu because most everything I plug into it works and I don't have to worry about it.
  • Nurven, on 05/21/2008, -3/+32I would rather have gone to a beerfest anyway
  • warholsbluecat, on 05/21/2008, -13/+6Wha wha wha wha whaaaaaaaaa
  • rodgerse, on 05/21/2008, -51/+2Hey, ubuntu lunux?.

    I haven't been, and never will, it suck a**.

    Sorry, but free/open source just doesn't work for something major like os...ms does this better.

  • MellerTime, on 05/21/2008, -0/+8Having it scheduled for the same time period as OSCON seems stupid anyway. I imagine there would be a lot of people who would dislike having to choose between the two.
  • scarysnow, on 05/21/2008, -7/+46the organizer probably just got a girlfriend.
  • wukillabee, on 05/21/2008, -38/+3Vista > U poo ntu
    • 4DFX, on 05/21/2008, -2/+3Vista sure is a bigger poo.
    • bob12321, on 05/21/2008, -1/+1I use vista and I also like Ubuntu. I run a webserver off of ubuntu and use my Windows machine mainly for gaming.
    • jay019, on 05/22/2008, -0/+1OMG. Is there actual real life Fista fans?
  • Julz, on 05/21/2008, -24/+8Canceled due to lack of interest
  • linux4evr, on 05/21/2008, -97/+8One word: GOOD!

    Ubuntu will be Linux's undoing. Linux is not an OS for noobs. Nor should it be molded into one. Keep the noobs away. And let Ubuntu die.
    • VinceNoir, on 05/21/2008, -25/+2Truer words my friend... truer words.
    • drunkninja, on 05/21/2008, -0/+34I hate comments like this. You guys want everyone to abandon MS and switch to Linux, but get pissy when a distro comes along that actually TRIES to make it easier for Joe 6-pack to use.

      I'm just imagining someone like you sitting in front of your "h4rdc0r3 1337" terminal-only Linux box in a dingy basement crying yourself to sleep every night because Linux is starting to break into the "noob" market.
      • GeorgeStone2, on 05/21/2008, -0/+16I bet they watch ascii star wars over telnet because any other medium is just "too mainstream".
      • linux4evr, on 05/21/2008, -15/+1It's a trade off. Pick one...

        Easy to use.
        Functional.

        You can't make a noob OS out of Linux without gutting it and smearing makeup all over the penguin. I don't want Tux with lipstick.
        • GeorgeStone2, on 05/21/2008, -0/+12You shouldn't have to choose. A good OS should be both.
          A GUI that can get most things done, then CLI that can get anything done.
          That's why Ubuntu is so popular. And they're almost there.
        • Killerah, on 05/22/2008, -0/+1I don't understand people like you. You want to talk about how great linux is and yet when people come over from windows to a great distro with an extremely helpful support community to take them from being total noobs to understanding things a bit better, you get all bent out of shape. What's up with that? Don't you see how ridiculous that line of thinking is? If ubuntu is indeed a noob distro then I say that's a great thing because it's getting people to switch over to linux and learn about it!

          That being said, I switched over via knoppix back a few years ago, I tried red hat, debian, and then ubuntu, and I've been on ubuntu ever since 5.04. Because I'm a noob? No back when I first started using it I was a noob, now I can confidently say I could switch to any distro I want and not worry about getting baffled because of all the things I've LEARNED using ubuntu. But why would I want to switch to another distro? Ubuntu is working extremely well for me, it supports all of my laptop's hardware out of the box and does everything I need it to. It's both easy to use AND functional. What has been gutted out of ubuntu that strips it of all it's functionality?
      • maninalift, on 05/21/2008, -0/+5One of the great things about the OSS community and Linux in particular is that there is a great big ecosystem from the "noob" who uses the software that is put in front of her to the full-time developer. Not only that but there is a tendency for users to get more educated and more involved. Start discussing things, then maybe contribute some ideas, some artwork, run a beta and report bugs, triage some bugs and so on.

        Linux can be good for noobs, it can also encourage noobs to understand their computers more, but they shouldn't have to if they don't want.
      • HonestAbe, on 05/21/2008, -0/+9linux4evr still wears a black trench coat and has his terminal colors set to bright green so he can feel like he's in The Matrix.
        • deadbeatsaint, on 05/22/2008, -0/+1'Soo, how much do clothes cost in "The Matrix"?'
    • DteK, on 05/21/2008, -1/+14linux is not an OS, its a kernel
      • linux4evr, on 05/21/2008, -7/+3Now go check everyone's spelling!
        • DteK, on 05/21/2008, -1/+7no thanks loser, there is a big difference between a spelling mistake and calling a program an OS
      • maninalift, on 05/21/2008, -2/+2Come on! There is no concrete definition of what makes an operating system. Linux certainly would have been called an OS in times passed. Now some people even consider an office suite to be part of the OS.
        • DteK, on 05/21/2008, -0/+2are you serious?
          Mac OS X is an OS - it uses the XNU kernel
          Ubuntu is a linux distribution / OS that uses the linux kernel
          Windows uses its own hybrid kernel.

          kernel != OS
    • FredFredrickson, on 05/21/2008, -0/+3Noobs are the people who make things successful.
    • Megatog615, on 05/21/2008, -1/+5Hello Gentoo user!
      Still compiling GNOME are we?
    • dgruetter, on 05/21/2008, -1/+3There would be no experienced Linux users if it weren't for people starting out IE "noobs". I have been using the Ubuntu KERNEL for 6 months now and am very happy with my experience. I guess this makes me a "noob". Whatever.
      • linux4evr, on 05/21/2008, -5/+0No, thinking Ubuntu is a kernel makes you a noob.
      • Jackar00, on 05/21/2008, -0/+4@linux4ever.
        you realize, you made practically the same mistake in your original post.
    • jay019, on 05/22/2008, -0/+0What kind of noob call Linux an OS?
  • joecolly, on 05/21/2008, -8/+71***** IT WE WON'T DO IT LIVE
  • snoopdogg, on 05/21/2008, -31/+2Windows FTW. Thanks!
  • Borgcube636, on 05/21/2008, -38/+10Well, back to Vista then...
    • mossblaser, on 05/21/2008, -3/+10Because a conference was canceled because of bad timing?
    • jay019, on 05/22/2008, -0/+0See ya, wouldnt want to be ya!
  • kipmartin, on 05/21/2008, -30/+2cancelled because they found Ubuntu is the Ron Paul of OSs--good on paper, but not viable in the real world.
    • UnFriendlyFire, on 05/21/2008, -0/+4That would make the Dems and Repubs, the XP and OS X of politics. Too expensive and full of bloated programs.
  • JayTee44, on 05/21/2008, -27/+2.....in a related story, Mac OS X is doing fine.....
  • ATLien74, on 05/21/2008, -18/+12So? I still say, ***** WINDOWS!
  • EvelinaPalonek, on 05/21/2008, -8/+2Wow, too bad.
  • bj1989, on 05/21/2008, -1/+10This is the kind of story that leaves little to discuss. Ubuntu Live cancelled - no clear reason. Okay, so most of us weren't going there anyway.
  • mihk, on 05/21/2008, -9/+2I don't care and I respect everybody decision to use whatever (n)Ubuntu distro. I just keep in mind: take away Debian and see what is left. Is this true ??
    • StealthTomato, on 05/21/2008, -0/+3This is more or less true. Ubuntu added lots of user-friendliness.

      However, you're very much right. Ubuntu is, at its core, a desktop-centric Debian remaster.

      This is the beautiful nature of Linux; the different distros not only offer more variety, but they build off of one another in a constant march of progress.
  • Haydre, on 05/21/2008, -1/+22When did digg become overrun with trolls?
  • Zcott, on 05/21/2008, -8/+4According to a source close to the organisers, they decided to "stay at home and recompile their kernels instead" to make them at least 0.001% faster.
  • FunyGirl, on 05/21/2008, -5/+1hmm
  • takatoo, on 05/21/2008, -0/+18I was planning to go with my girlfriend. :(
    • Kumah, on 05/21/2008, -6/+3Well now you can use that time to get a real girlfriend instead of a blow-up doll.
  • mdshort, on 05/21/2008, -0/+23All they did was integrate Ubuntu Live into the OSCON event... I would hardly call that cancelled. In fact, you can even stay longer now.

    Buried for sensationalism.
    • chumpbender, on 05/21/2008, -0/+0OSCON is here in Portland OR, but the day it starts I will be driving to San Diego for Comic-Con.

      Worst.. timing.. ever!
  • leaflord, on 05/21/2008, -4/+2I wasn't much into Pokemon anyway
    • stephbeaudet, on 05/21/2008, -0/+1is this a reference to xkcd or is it just me?
      • leaflord, on 05/23/2008, -0/+0Forgot bout this thread - Yes, it is. Sadly you're the only one to notice it
  • nickert0n, on 05/21/2008, -1/+2WHYYYYY!
  • anshuman, on 05/21/2008, -3/+1Epic Fail??


    heh, Epic bury for me now??
  • JonForTheWin, on 05/21/2008, -2/+2I was planning on going. I had it all worked out perfectly. My girlfriend thought I was going to be with the girl I cheat on her with that day. The girl I cheat on the girlfriend with that day thought I'd be with my girlfriend, and . . Ubuntu Live is now canceled, went through all that ***** for nothing. Hey now I can stay at the office all night before, ***** yeah.
    • ptFoe, on 05/21/2008, -0/+1We don't need to know about your problems with your imaginary "friends".
    • DeusMachina, on 05/22/2008, -0/+1I am pretty sure that your left and right hands have already met.
  • killercow, on 05/22/2008, -1/+2You can still all join us at ETh0, the dutch hackers and opensource community's outdoor event,

    7 days of hacking, coding, discussion and great people.

    Yyes do realize that it might be far away for most of you, but ey, I bet you'd love to see Amsterdam too, so here's your chance.

    http://www.eth-0.nl
  • turtleJP, on 06/11/2008, -0/+1I must say that I was going to make a roadie up to Portland for Ubuntu Live until I saw the cost. Sweet Jesus are you kidding me. Was way, way way over priced for the average person. I did not really see it as an industry event but as an end user conference. It was an O'Reilly conference so no surprise on the high cost.
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